Waitchads, I kneel... Why didn't I listen..

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Only technical masters below this post please.

>>102548065
what's your latency like under game load?

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Toasting in new bread, I'm thinking about getting a Asrock Pro RS instead of HDV. For RAM, GSkill flare x5, instead of whatever this is. But Adata is CL30 and Gskill is CL40. IDK which ones to choose. Other than memory, ssd and motherboard, I've boughted everything. I'm worried about the RAM and SSD.

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>>102548124
Genshin running on background

>>102548117
>thread dies because no one in pcbg is a technical master
geeeeeg

>>102548210
My HD Audio Bus hits like 350, how tf is yours so low.

>>102548136
Is this some SEA currency?

>>102548136
Board is your choice, know what extras you're paying for if you move up to the Pro RS (compare features in official spec sheets).
ADATA CL30 kit is better than a CL40 Flare.
Can't comment on Teamgroup SSD. I'm in the US and I like to stick to more mainstream brands, I know most of them fuck around with component swapping.

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>>102548250
>>102548136
GOOD MORNING SAAR

>>102548136
SAAR

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>>102548136
>Cabinet

>>102548210
that's actually really good, grats on the optimization especially if you have an Nvidia GPU.
did you follow a guide or something?

>>102548136
Where's your gpu? Stick to CL30. Why 850W psu? Adata is shit.

>>102548293
saar i cannot afford gepeepoo i am india saar

>>102548111
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2ftKCd
Fantastic, thanks for the help.
Fortunately I already have a case (salvaged from a friend's old build) and a SSD, so this kind of build puts me comfortably under budget.
Would it be worth going higher end on the GPU for 200-300$ more for this example build or would I also need to go higher on the CPU to avoid a bottleneck there?

My concern isn't so much maximum performance (though performance is nice) as it is futureproofing.

>>102548250
I'm a jeet if it's not obvious by now.

>>102548329
Good morning.

>>102548293
>[BRAND] is shit.
What's with this retarded mentality of buying because of BRAND instead of specs and actual performance?
Who the fuck cares if it's msi or anusblaster or FDFDSDF as long as it performs well

>>102548251
>Board is your choice, know what extras you're paying for if you move up to the Pro RS (compare features in official spec sheets).
Board is easy, thinking if I need the extra ram slots is all.

>>102548251
I'll get a name brand for ssd crucial or samsung something with dram cache.

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I really hope that Battlemage ends up being good, especially since these are the specs from one of the weaker variants. But Intel is shooting themselves in the foot by releasing these cards around the same time as Nvidia's new GPUs.

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radeon 8000 already, please

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I'm about to buy 3 Noctua a12's, and 2 a14's, for intake and exhaust respectively. Convince me not to while knowing the fact that I don't want to hear my PC
Maybe I'll but the $60 Noctua hoodie while I'm at it

>>102548293
I was going to buy 750 watts, but 850 watts is only 10 bux more, so I got the 850. As for the GPU, I was going to get 7900GRE, but looks like asrock and AMD got my back, all I need is 2 60hz 4k monitors for programming. I'll see, if it doesn't work out, I'll get the gre. Also, I was thinking about powering 3 to 4 hdds.

>>102548425
sorry but it's impossible to convince you not to

I'm about to do the same, actually

>>102548424
why would you wait for a card weaker than a 4090 when you can just buy a 4090 now

>>102548425
Be Quiet fans are like half the price and you can barely hear the difference (heh)

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>>102548350
Good morning sirs. Here is a rare animu for you.

>>102548259
>>102548272
Guten morgen herrer.

>>102548276
British influence I guess. The brits say cabinet instead of case.

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>>102548425
Did you take a look at the actual product you're buying?
Regular A12 and the A14's fan designs have been the same since the early 2010s, you're paying a premium for ancient case fans.
The only Noctua case fans worth buying atm is the NF-A12x25. You need to wait for the newer A14.
https://youtu.be/5ozDEF8uQ8k?t=420

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>>102548516
No we do not.
A PC case is not a PC "Cabinet"
A cabinet would be pic related.

>>102548425
I boughted arctic p12 5 pack. If it doesn't cool my case, I'm taping it to my balls to keep my balls cool.

>>102548081
Of all of the general threads, this one consistently has the worst images in its OPs.

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>>102548329

>>102548602
also the worst takes and advice

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>>102548547
Beware, we will send Mikus your way.

>>102548547
Looking good, how many 3.5'' HDDs can you fit in that beast?

>>102548605
We need to get the hands sorted. How hard can it be?

hi /pcbg/, I'm looking for recommendations for a budget 240hz monitor with built-in speakers
it doesn't need to be 2560x1440 or 4k, just 27 inches, 240hz, and must have integrated speakers
the shop I usually buy from is sold out of these budget is around 200-300 euros, and this is just for a second monitor

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>>102548449
unironically too large, XFX and Powercolor xtx models are comparatively very narrow and the only real high end option for my use case

>>102548741
>integrated speakers
Come on anon, I know you can do better. Get a pair or head phone or some used bookshelf and its going to 10x better. If that's a lot, get a $20 IEM or $25 TWS.

>>102548788
I don't want to use my headset 24/7 :( my old ASUS monitor had awesome integrated speakers but I forgot the make and number because I'm retarded

>>102548805
Bruh, professionals do it. Get a snoy mdr 7506 and you'll start hearing notes that you never knew existed. What about used bookshelves?

>>102548741
get cheap speakers, it'll achieve the same thing but won't limit your search
you could get a genuinely good monitor like the Koorui 27E3QK and still have enough spare for cheap speakers that will sound better than whatever built-in speakers

>>102548326
I would upgrade the CPU to a 5700X3D and the video card to at least the RTX 4070 if you're planning for longevity.
Updated list below.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qqvqKX

You can source the CPU cheaper from Alibaba, but there's no warranty coverage because they're sending you a tray processor instead of the boxed consumer version.

7800XT and 7900GRE are Radeon video card alternatives.
You should do some research on the card options.
https://us-store.msi.com/Graphics-Cards/NVIDIA-GPU/RTX-4070/GeForce-RTX-4070-GAMING-SLIM-12G
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/gCvD4D/powercolor-fighter-oc-radeon-rx-7800-xt-16-gb-video-card-rx7800xt-16g-foc
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dYCZxr/sapphire-pulse-radeon-rx-7900-gre-16-gb-video-card-11325-04-20g

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/sapphire-radeon-rx-7900-gre-pulse/

>>102548854
>>102548788
>>102548856
>What about used bookshelves?
Yes, I suppose that would be a better alternative. My backup plan was to buy a cheap shamesung monitor and a pair of speakers. Do any of you guys have any suggestions for good cheap speakers?

>>102548882
honestly if your standard for speakers were built-in ones from monitors, just get Creative Pebble v2 or anything that looks good on your desk from Amazon

>>102548882
>Do any of you guys have any suggestions for good cheap speakers?
I wanted to get micca RB42 new but that's for later. ELACs, snoy SSCS-5s or anything that looks old, pioneer, denon, onkyos. See what is available in your area. You'll get better recs from /hpg/ or /iemg/.

>>102548882
Edifier is probably the cheapest speaker brand I would go for. Their high end speakers are shit but they make decent budget ones, like the R1280T or R1700BT.

>>102548882
Get IEMs. Once I started using them and got used to them I can't go back to speakers when I'm front of my PC.

>>102548527
"September"
That's what the slightly-more-recent post on the Noctua site also said (posted on July 2, 2024)
I mean, there's still a couple of days left...

>>102548976
Just don't buy older Noctua fans with PBT composite materials, you're paying extra for the color and "customer service".
Up to 5°C noise-normalized cooling deficiency compared to newer 140mm fans for a $25 product is damning.

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Bump for monitor change.
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Anyone here familiar with the AsusROG Strix XG32UQ? I'm trying to find out whether it'd be better than the Gigabyte M32U-EK or the Dell G3223Q as those are the only two notable IPS monitors I can find in local supply besides the ASUS one.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gzMWVW
would this be a retarded build? is there anything really wrong with it?

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Best gpu for 1440p/60fps playing modern games on ultra?

>>102549130
>only 60fps
literally anything

>>102549130
5090 should launch in a few months
it might be able to run future games with full path tracing at 1440p 60

which cunt tree has the closest to US hardware prices?

>>102549113
CL36 is slow af. Get better ram. You do know that 13th and 14th gen intelaviv processors are commiting seppuku. get 12th gen or older, or get amds.

>>102549113
>14700kf
>14 series intel cpu
bad idea anon
>Samsung 980 Pro
you most likely don't need that, don't waste your money

>>102549113
I wouldn't buy 14th gen, the core ultra line comes out at the end of October.

>>102549170
what would be another good cpu for 4070?

>>102549113
>intel
You need to understand that you're buying a ticking time bomb. If you're still okay with that then good for you. I don't actually know if they extended the warranties for new purchases of CPUs or just the ones that was bought before the announcement.
>Corsair 6000MHz CL36 RAM
Slow and overpriced garbage with RGB puke. void Corsair at all cost other than their PSU. A lot of their RGB shit only works on their software which just bloats your PC. Get something faster too. 6000MHz and CL30 is the bare minimum.
>980 Pro SSD
Overpriced. Just get the SN850x. Cheaper and does the same thing.
>Corsair case
A lot of their cases uses non standard parts, like their fan hubs included in the case. No idea what they have in that particular case, but you should know that when you buy anything Corsair it forces you to buy in their ecosystem, as in only Corsair parts will work with Corsair. Which is why I never recommend it.

Any cases that aren't sold fully assembled? I know of the qube 500l but are there no other options?

>>102549186
7800X3D for gaymen. I bought a 7900x for me. Consider 7900x with Asrock B650 or B650E boards.

>>102549113
You need to justify going Intel over AMD when the 13/14th gen instability issues still haven't been fully addressed yet.
The memory kit is terrible for a 14700K, you should be getting at least a 6800MT/s CL34 set for these Intel systems.
6000MT/s CL30, not 36, is recommended for new builders because most chips and boards work at that speed & timing.
AM5's memory recommendations are different.
Overpaying for the SSD, video card, and case.

If you already own the Dark Rock Pro 4, it's whatever. I wouldn't go out of my way to buy one now.
This is basically a 2/10 build.

Here's a 7800X3D system with a 4070 Super at a similar cost. I'm not wasting my time setting up an Intel alternative.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DtwkCd

AMD is shit though.

battlemage will save us

>>102549194
why?

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>>102548081
Im still using Ryzen 5 2600 with Gtx 1060
Its not that im poor
I want to upgrade but i just dont know how to disassembly and assembly the parts

>>102549253
The cutdown entry-level Battlemage card is performing worse than the 4060.
https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-battlemage-gpu-leak-shows-2-85-ghz-clock-20-xe2-cores-and-12gb-vram
I'd hesitate to call this an entry-level card if Intel's giving it 12GB, this is probably a $350~400 card at the very least.

>>102549186
Assuming you're a GAMER
7600x3d if you live close to a microcenter
5700x3d if you want to pinch pennies
7800x3d otherwise

AMD kinda just winning the cpu fight so hard nowadays

Why aren’t Nvidia releasing their shit. I just wanna consoom.

>>102549250
For CPUs they are steamrolling Shintel in consumer and server markets. In what way are the bad? GPUs are not upto par, I'll accept.

>>102549294
>server markets
lol
lmao
thats wrong though
intel is still leading the server and workstation market. their xeons and golds still beat epycs

Any non-OLED panels with actual HDR?

>>102549305
actual hdr is a bit vague
miniled va monitors with 300+ zones can do it but its not good the way oled hdr is

>>102549269
>I want to upgrade but i just dont know how to disassembly and assembly the parts

Boot up pc
run CPU benchmark for an hour till your cpu is nice and toasty
shut down pc
flip power switch
unplug all the cables
put it on your table
take side panel off
follow cpu cooler directions to remove it (usually just unscrewing some screws with thumbs then twisting gently while trying to raise it until it releases)
clean thermal paste off cooler
follow motherboard directions to release cpu from motherboard
pull out cpu
throw it in the garbage
unscrew the bracket screws for GPU using fingers
press the little tab on the socket it's plugged into while pulling it out of the case
throw GPU in thrash
put new GPU in the socket till it clicks
screw the bracket screws in with fingers
put new cpu in socket & "lock" it again
apply new thermal paste on cpu
put cooler back on the same way
follow instructions to install the cooler

>>102549259
Smaller volumen=lower shipping costs

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>>102549269
its not rocket appliances just do it.

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>>102549187
CL36 isn't really that much slower compared to CL30. only few frames better here and there
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ra8D3ZDHR8

>>102549234
i took a look but it looks like most of those parts aren't available in my turd world country so i think im gonna get the 7800X3D then see what i can replace the other parts with, thanks anyway

>>102549324
Do you live on some remote island of 2000 inhabitants for that to matter?

>>102549420
Canada.

>>102549412
Note your region next time, because regional prices and availability changes everything.
14700KF would be okay if the 7800X3D and supported board is way too expensive for you.

>>102549432
You country is just too underpopulated for reliable delivery.
You need more immigrants to fill in those population blank spots.
Way more.

>>102549420
I have to pay 8 dollars per pound/volumetric pound depending on how i ship it

>>102549512
im from turkey but i didn't think anybody would spend the time to check for regional prices and availability to give advice

>>102549556
How many more? We went from 10k Indian immigrants to 100k in less than 3 years.
HOW MANY MORE?????????????

>>102549572
Newegg delivers to Turkey, maybe see if their total shipping costs make sense to you vs. getting parts from local stores.

>>102549580
Its not like voting works. Its all a sham, the Juice are not even trying to hide it. Kali yuga sucks ass anon.

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>>102548602
would you prefer anime OPs?

>he doesn't own a Fractal North case
What's your excuse?

>>102549792
Not black.

>>102549754
Yes please. We need Miku telling british people off.

>>102549810
Graphite is almost black.

>>102549332
the issue is that CL36 is a samsung bin, which is going to have more compatibility issues and worse subtimings

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Well tested the Dell 1080. I'll be keeping the PNY blower. It OC's better and runs cooler, despite pulling 15-20 watts more.
However, my dumb drunken ass also snagged a Strix 1080, picrel. Should arrive tomorrow. Curious how it will compare.

>>102549565
>>102549412
>>102549572
>>102549432
You should still stay away from shintel, see if AM4 with 5950x works for you.

Can I emulate a Pentium 133 in 86Box with a Ryzen 5600?

>>102549835
>1080
dude, it's almost 2025!

>>102549059
I own that one.
I like it.

>>102549250
AMD defecates all over the competition CPU wise, GPU it's a lil worse than nGREEDia but atleast they're not 2k$

>>102549829
I was considering crucial DDR5 despite buildzoid's telling to stay the fuck away from it. Its cl48. What is is happening with them? Diversity hires? What happened to Micron?

>>102549866
you dont need more, if you play at 1080 and dont fall to gaytracing meme

>>102549879
i have no idea
don't remind me about ballistix or i'm gonna cry

>>102549892
Exactly. Thanks fren, have a (you).

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>>102549892
yeah I guess

>>102549681
getting everything except for the gpu, cpu and the ssd costs about 600 dollars and the delivery costs about 300 so im gonna stick with whatever i can buy locally i guess

>>102549991
What about used hardware? No good options? Chucking a gpu in an old optiplex will be hard to beat.

Muh 5090/5080 but does anyone know anything about the 5070ti?

>>102550034
i didn't really look at secondhand stuff at all im too paranoid about getting something broken with no warranty

>>102550050
no one cares about poorfags lmao

>>102550059
Bruh, get some cheap shit that won't break. I've bought so many stinkpads and latitudes for my friends and family and they work like no other. Used enterprise shit when it comes to laptops is amazing. I still miss my x230, I gave it to my cousin when I upgraded to X1C. Optiplexes are also enterprise. Checkout used enterprise shit.

>>102550116
ok i'll take a look

>>102548602
This is a new anon that has replaced the GPU's with all AMD GPU's.

what's the next best gaming processor if the 7800x3d's are unavailable? AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D?

>>102550087
I could easily afford the 5090,
but i wouldnt be able to fit it anywhere lmao. mITX for life, thats why i am waiting for the 5070

>>102550482
oh, I see you are also a real gangsta like myself

>>102550050
Don't get your hopes up too much on RTX 50 series in general, only the RTX 5090's rumored to have a higher memory capacity (28GB).
Not all the cards are expected to use GDDR7 memory chips, I wouldn't be surprised if the 5070Ti and below use GDDR6X.

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>>102548081
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1rz_GWYbyE

https://community.amd.com/t5/pc-processors/9900x-cpu-makes-music-production-impossible/m-p/704350/page/3

ZEN 5% FUCKS UP AGAIN

what's the equivalent to Nvidia Control Panel on AMD gpus? It's the most useful app ever

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>>102549792
I bought this unit instead.

>>102550560
based AMD shitting on iLok cucks

>>102550560
iLoktoddlers btfo
you get what you fucking deserve

>>102549792
>Fractal North case
it's for tryhards

>>102550623
>>102550653
>amd shits itself
>heh take that!

>>102549847
Im buying a case, not a cpu

>>102550560
New CPUs suck
CPUs peaked at zen3/10th gen

>>102549792
I have a Meshify 2 and I wouldn't be able to see the pseudowood panels under my tectonic plate sized desk anyway.

>>102550675
If you enable the cancer that is iLok you deserve to be beaten to death by a pack of feral niggers
kill a DRM proponent *today*

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>>102549892
I wonder when Radeonfriends will admit that RT off isn't Ultra? (Answer: when Radeon doesn't shit itself with RT on)

>>102550595
There isn't

>>102549875
>GPU it's a lil worse than nGREEDia
Radeon is currently non-viable even if you exclude RT

>>102550675
iLok is worse than Denuvo, you have no idea how much it fucked things up for producers, you're literally better off pirating than installing that garbage

>>102548449
>when you can just buy a 4090 now
But you can't buy a 4090 now, it is out of stock and being discontinued.

>R7 3700X
>AOC 24G2ZE/BK
>RTX 4090/5090
Is this a retarded combo?

Marques is our guy. He even released all the wallpapers for free so you don't even need to install an "app".

>>102550784
A video card that costs almost $2,000 should be paired with the latest 4K OLED monitor.

>>102550784
yes
spend more on CPU and less on GPU

>>102550784
>Is this a retarded combo?
yeah. something like this would be better
>upgrade to 5700x3D/5800x3D
>240/360hz 1440p OLED
>4080/5080

>>102550784
Yes

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>>102549305
Samsung Odyssey Neo G7 and Neo G8
Pretty much the only ones, as IPS sucks even with FALD

>>102549253
Sadly even the behemoth that is Intel cannot break into graphics in one or two generations

>>102549130
Right now probably the 4070 Super, but if you mean Ultra including RT, the 4080 or preferably even the 4090. You can do lighter RT or older games with RT with the 4070 Super, but newer ones are going to be pushing it. You'll be running DLSS Performance, which while still decent, has image quality that's too soft in my opinion. Of course the 5080 and 5090 will be launching fairly soon, so not really the best time to buy high end graphics cards, considering you're basically buying two year old hardware

>>102549113
Worth it to get a 4070 Super for another $50
Also the i7 isn't recommended now due to stability issues

>>102548869
Radeon is not worth the price currently

>>102550841
>4k
meme resolution, grow up

>>102550896
2k gpu cant even get 144fps at 1080p

RT just pure joke

>>102550899
4K is the high-end resolution, 1440p is a compromise.
1080p is entry-level.

>>102550899
Pfff. 4K is the new 1080p, and 1080p is the new 640x480.

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Do you goys think RDNA4 will get some news during the FSR4 event?

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>>102550784
100% retarded

>>102550899
Not him, but it's not just about resolution. It's about the HDR that OLED provides. Having said that, the monitor is also one of the longest lasting parts of your system, so getting a good one and growing into it is just fine. 4K is easy to hit now with DLSS, and it looks far better than 1440p or especially 1080p at the same performance cost.

>>102550922
Cyberpunk 2077 is one of the heaviest RT implementations, as it's full PT. But it also has a massive effect on the visuals. Just look through youtube
https://youtu.be/Rv5CukvLrTM?si=F9HcU8lyJPN3wV6W

>>102551017
>FSR4 event?
Being?

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13/14th gen CPUs are so scuffed, they were requesting elevated core voltages even during idle/low loads.
There's going to be a new microcode update to address the issue.
https://community.intel.com/t5/Blogs/Tech-Innovation/Client/Intel-Core-13th-and-14th-Gen-Desktop-Instability-Root-Cause/post/1633239

I don't get all the Arrow Lake waitfags when it's going to have Early Access™ tier QC.

>>102550460
If you want to spend more, yes. Otherwise just get a 7600x3d.

>>102551037
This is the new normal, it won't get any better.

>>102548081
>AVOID
>4000D airflow
why?

>>102551037
>Intel® has localized the Vmin Shift Instability issue to a clock tree circuit within the IA core which is particularly vulnerable to reliability aging under elevated voltage and temperature
so basically, intel did some careless overclocking and found out what happens the hard way
there's no way they can fix this without some sort of performance decrease, even if it is only a minor decrease or only affects certain workloads

>>102551030
>grow into oled
How long are those panels lasting? Seems better to buy a product that you would get full use of out of now if it's not going to last as long as monitors usually do. Don't hit me with that use a different monitor as your main, no.

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>>102551235
Even if you're abusing them, they seem to last quite a while. They also come with three year warranties that include burn in, so at worst you just get a replacement near the end of the warranty period

>full use
If you have even a half decent graphics card, you do. The HDR + resolution is a massive upgrade over anything lesser.

am I best to wait until black friday to pick up a bigger nvme?

According to Wendel Intel might have fixed the ring bus voltage instability with updates, and it might have all been caused by a bug. New data shows that crypto mining rigs have had 0 issues while gaming rigs have experienced most of the issues

new Q drop is out, AMD is doing an emergency launch of the X3D parts in two weeks

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Airflowbros i need help
I can set my PSU in two orientations, either sucking air from the outside, albeit with tight mesh in the way
Or I can set it so that it sucks air in from the case, but I can also set a case fans to blow air directly into the PSUs fan
Which way should I go?

>>102551379
>According to
>New data shows
you have got to be the most obvious marketeer I have ever seen on this website

is the shit I'm seeing on twitter true? Zen5 X3D coming in next month? Already? Can't be true.

>>102551428
If this is true I can really see them putting X3D launches first before anything else now. They must be really confident in its performance.

>>102551461
it's a rumor
https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d-rumored-to-launch-end-of-october

>>102551305
What framerates are people getting at 4k w/ dlss on a 4090/80? How do those framerates compare with 1440p?

Imagine being the motherfucker that buys a last gen x3d at full price because they're sold out everywhere just for the next iteration to come out the next month, lmao

>>102551037
Its probably down to people hoping that since first impressions of Lunar Lake are good, Arrow Lake should be more of the same.

>>102549270
That should still BTFO the A750, especially since the new architecture should mean that it'll perform much better in games than the current Alchemist line up. But it's still one of those cases where who knows if Battlemage's top-end card will be able to dethrone the A770 16GB, which is basically on par with the 3060ti/6700XT at best and on par or slower than the 6600 at worst.

Doubt x3d would be next month, min 3 month before it come out

>>102551517
Actually it's on brand for AMD to screw over the people who just paid shitloads for a launch with a better product not even 2 months later. 7800XT buyers when 7900GRE lauched weeks later can relate.

I just ordered an rx6400 lp for a Dell sff PC for 100€
Will I regret it? It's the only single slot GPU I could find on Amazon for cheap

I need a mid-tower case that hasn't got any glass panel or RGB, and is as silent as it gets.

Help me /pcbg/

>>102551590
>Will I regret it?
Indubitably.

>>102551619
Silent case is a meme, any airflow case can be made just as silent as a "silenced" case by just turning up the heat through fan curves for the same or better temperature-noise outcome.

>>102551632
Thanks for the advice!
Any airflow case you'd recommend?

recommend me a chinkslop gpu from ali
i wanna see how good or bad they are

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>>102551590
probably

>>102551653
>ali
if you're content with buying a box full of rocks or a pcb without the chip, be my guest

should I spend the 15 $ extra money for a 4060 rather than a 3060?

>>102551704
depends on if it's the 16 or 8 gb model

>>102551683
I'm in jewrope...but
>for parts
>>102551622
I just want to be able to play Skyrim, should have bought more ram instead

>>102551701
reddit says they're trustworthy and legit thoughbeit

>>102551647
Fractal or beQuiet cases fit into your non-gaymer aesthetic requirement.
Meshify 2 or Silent Base 802 maybe.

>>102551750
why would you listen to anything predditors have to say?

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>>102551507
You can look at 1440p benchmarks as a proxy for 4K DLSS Quality performance, and 1080p benchmarks for 4K DLSS Performance... performance. There's also of course Balanced, which will give you framerates in between 1080p and 1440p

>>102551704
In new games the 4060 seems to have a significant performance advantage over the 3060. There are two drawbacks with the 4060: and x8 PCIe lane connection, and of course lesser VRAM. Those two combined can cause problems, especially if you don't have a PCIe 4.0 system. The 3060 will be more reliable if you want to think as little as possible about settings optimization and just use lower resolution DLSS, but the 4060 can get you higher framerates, especially with optimization. Of course it also has DLSS Frame Gen but that also uses more VRAM, so you have to balance the VRAM capacity in some situations. The 3060 can still use Frame Gen, but it'll be FSR Frame Gen, which is lower quality and not nearly as widely supported.

>>102551704
Really depends if you need the VRAM for other tasks. In general the 4060 is better and I'd say it's only about $10-15 better. There are some VRAM heavy games like RE Village or 4 Remake, any of those RE Engine games really that eat up VRAM.

>>102548081
>4K: RX 7900 XT, RX 7900 XTX
is the XTX overkill?

>>102551443
normally your psu draws it from outside

>>102551506
>https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d-rumored-to-launch-end-of-october
>It’s not just me saying this; AMD’s official representatives have also hinted at it. AMD people attended Gigabyte’s X870 launch event. Moreover, this year, there are indeed only the 9800X3D, 9950X3D, and 9900X3D, as there are new things coming next year.
If it's really sourced from a Gigabyte meeting I'd take it with more than just a grain of salt especially only being a few weeks out. Also conceptually makes sense to at least try and steal some of the thunder from Arrow Lake's launch at the same time ahead of the holiday shopping season. It would also explain the recent retarded price hike on the 7800X3D to make the otherwise lackluster Zen 5% expected uplift on the 9800X3D seem more appealing.

intelsisters pre-coping already

>>102552117
AMD has earnings in 34 days, maybe they want something to throw at investors after disastrous zen5 sales

want to get a decent pre built for my sister. Under 900. She wants a good pc to run Hogwarts Legacy (mainly). She mostly plays indie slop like witch games or farming sims. Was hoping this pre built is decent for emulation too.

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>he boughted an oled without firmware update support
oh no no no

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why didn't Europe create chip company to compete with USA same way they created Airbus to compete with Boeing?

>>102552391
yuros cant into tech
their little peanut brains cant comprehend it

>>102552391
Europe is a hospice of nations, nothing is created here. Airbus has decent success only after it cannibalized what was left of bongistani (not real Europe) aero industry.

>>102552391
they don't need to, all of the lithography machines that TSMC, TI, Intel, etc. all use are made in Europe by ASML

>>102552334
Never would I guessed with the advent of OLED, that MSI of all companies would become the best/most aggressive brand to deliver good monitor options.

>>102552228
this is the PC building general

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I think I will buy a 4070 Super now

>>102552228
post pics of your sister to help us more accurately identify her needs

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Is this too sharp of a turn for the power cable, or am I fine?

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I won't say I'm disappointed, but I kinda expected more out of the AW2725DF.
Looks good in general cause OLED but if you're not living in the dark or running HDR content 24/7, I don't think the difference is that big with a decent IPS or MiniLED.

When compared to my LG C1, it feels like a downgrade in every way outside of refresh rate.
Brightness is just okay in HDR. SDR content is very dim, colors look good but you have to run "uncalibrated" color modes to really feel like it's a high-end monitor in my opinion.
The sRGB mode is super accurate but so are the ones on a lot cheap monitors nowadays and it looks very much identical to my G2724D.

The motion clarity on 360hz with instant response time is absolutely insane and made the purchase worth the money for me at least (only paid like 500€).

Maybe it's just me being used to OLED displays and not really seeing the magic anymore.

>>102549186
9800X3D coming end of this October.

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>>102552773

>>102552842
Too autistic, too bothersome, proposal rejected.

>>102552615
it's okay unless it explodes, which I doubt it would.

>>102552228
Well "prebuild" it for her, fuckaroo
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZD2634

Grab the cpu off aliexpress
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3256806921974699.html

Pay yourself 50 bucks for putting it together & there you go, good pc for under 900
IDK what case she might like so feel free to slap in a cheaper one or whatever. If you buy a cheap enough one you could even grab a 7700xt instead but then you can't pay yourself for building it

>>102550841
OLED OLED OLED my ass!
Show me a choice of non-curved 4k 32" OLED displays. NON-CURVED! PLANE DISPLAYS!

>>102552773
Your C1 is brighter by virtue of just being a bigger panel able to throw out a higher quantity of photons.
Also the AW2725DF is only 1440p while the C1 is full 4K so the sharpness may not be apparent without normalized viewing distances.
QD-OLED has much higher color volume and purity from sharper narrow half-widths of the RGB so I'm surprised you are appreciating that more though it is somewhat content-dependent. Tried doing side-by-side A/B comparisons with quality footage?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSvoP-JuYDI

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is it time to upgrade?

>>102552615
it's fine

>>102553041
Are games/apps feeling too slow? If yes, then yes.
If it were me I'd upgrade the BIOS, and grab a cheap 5700X3D from AliExpress like >>102552937 linked and drop it in.
Since that board only has 2 DIMM slots you could also grab a 2x16GB kit of DDR4 if 16GB of RAM isn't enough for your usage now.
What I'd absolutely do no matter what if upgrade that monitor from 1080p@60Hz to a High-Refresh 1440p display like the Dell G2724D if for no other reason that to cut down on system input lag and latency.

>>102553041
yes
Grab a 6600(xt)/7600/3060ti based on local prices if you're poor, then see how badly your CPU gets fucked, if it's not getting fucked too bad you can keep rocking for a while longer, otherwise grab a 5700x3d
If you're not poor, grab a 7700xt or 4070 super and 5700x3d

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I found a QHD Dell G2724D IPS monitor half price new and bought it.
Can't wait to try these new features for me, G sync, 2K res, 1ms.
>>102549059
>>102549872

>>102553222
im sure its gonna have dead pixels

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I think I'm blind, can somebody please tell me where the fug the 3pin argb connector is on this board?
The mobo page mentions: 1x 4-pin RGB LED connector 1x 3-pin RAINBOW LED connector but I can only find the former at the bottom.

>>102553222
Good for you. You can download the specific ICC profile for it from RTINGS's review here:
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/dell/g2724d#test_1468

HUB's reviews goes over which overdrive settings to use among other Dell G2724D-specific things to know about:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pw9ByU6AOd8

Make sure to check this startup checklist guide for your new display (watch it 1.5X if desired):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sq3_XvjvQCE

Does Intel even offer full refunds or a downgrade on the CPU + some cash for a warranty claim? Have an issue with my CPU that seems unrelated to the current instability issue going on with them. I am now worried on whether I should even RMA my current 13th gen CPU on the off chance the replacement CPU ends up being one of those unstable CPUs. I only just heard of these issues as I don't really keep an eye on this tech news stuff. I basically have the choice of
>keep shitty CPU where the solution I found works but likely results in a shorter lifespan for it
>get new CPU that might have instability issues

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>>102553343
here
learn to manual
(in your pic it's directly to the right of the top pushtab of the rightmost ram slot)

>>102548107
The irony. I was simply looking to build a new PC but kept holding off since my current one worked fine and the GPUs were having funky stuff done to them. Time passes and the GPUs are now fine but I find that the MOBOs, CPUs, and OS are having issues (not the recent instability issues for the CPU but perhaps related in someway?). I end up buying rather than stalling it out again, I hate building PCs which is likely the main reason I wouldn't buy a new one. I wish I stalled out again. I'd have completely avoided an entire two gens of garbage CPUs along with all the other equipment issues I'm seeing. Faster tech but the rate of faulty tech seems to be increasing at the same time. Lends credence to the theory that the tech is becoming too big to understand which leads to stuff like this where they don't know how to fix the problem.

>>102553424
If think you are having instability problems and have a 13th Gen I'd say go ahead and RMA it. Intel is dealing with so much blowback from the problem that they are in MAXIMUM DAMAGE CONTROL mode and will send you a replacement just to clear tickets. Just made sure after installing it that you immediately update your BIOS to the latest version that includes the new Microcode Patch they issues earlier in the month that will keep the new mint chip from degrading. You can also update the BIOS now before sending the RMA request or if you don't want the trouble try locking the clocks in BIOS to see if your system stabilizes.

>>102553444
Oh shit I forgot about the manual since I got this secondhand for cheap, thanks.

>>102548081
>DDR4: 2x16GB 3200CL16
>DDR5: 2x16GB 6000CL30

so if you calc the latency of both those memory recommendations, they are both 10ns.

DDR4: 16*2000/3200 = 10ns
DDR5: 30*2000/6000 = 10ns

Does that imply there is no performance improvement of DDR5 over DDR4?

>>102553735
>Does that imply there is no performance improvement of DDR5 over DDR4?
you forgot the obvious fact that it's running at almost double the frequency

>>102553041
Doesn't seem like you even have the RAM in it's OC'd profile
If you're going to upgrade you should CPU (5700X3D), graphics card, and monitor (1440p high refresh), all at once.

>>102553735
There is higher bandwidth with DDR5, which can lead to some improvement in some situations. Hard to really gauge the performance impact of DDR4 vs DDR5, as only Intel chips can use both and improvements being detectable rely on a lot of things workload, etc

>>102553126
Ffs, I just upgraded to a 3800x a month ago and now I see that price of a 5700x3d on Ali. Is Ali fairly reputable? How long is shipping usually to the US?

when will 3DVCache be put on both CCDs what is the hold up

>>102553915
>Ffs, I just upgraded to a 3800x a month ago and now I see that price of a 5700x3d on Ali. Is Ali fairly reputable?
Yes.
>How long is shipping usually to the US?
1-2 weeks max.

>>102553915
AliExpress is just the chink version of Amazon. You get scams from Amazon the same as Ali.
I buy random junk from AliExpress from time to time.

>>102548081
you guys know why hwbusters only recommend XPs, platinums from Super flower leadex vii and not the cheaper golds? are the build quality way different?

>>102553915
I only buy from Aliexpress because I don't have Amazon.
Just avoid the very cheap "too good to be true" things (general advice for any store anyway) and you'll be fine.

>>102554187
Those are all going to epyc.

>>102553735
>Does that imply there is no performance improvement of DDR5 over DDR4?
latency, no
bandwidth, yes

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>>102554341
Either gold or platinum Leadex VII units are great.
The gold units nearly match 80+ Platinum models in efficiency.
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/4/

>>102554341
I don't know the reason but for a long time the best psu review site - jonnyguru - would recommend the leadex gold units and a number of the leadex gold units are very highly rated in cybenetics test suite. It would be a rare day a leadex gold psu is not worth a buy.

I need advice, what would you choose

A Lancool 216 that comes with very good fans but forces you to buy a bigger disk
Or a Lian Li A3 matx that fits in your old 90s style computer desk but forces you to buy fans?

I'm not a hardcore gamer, I'm still very satisfied with 1080p and 60 frames.

>>102554574
The one with good airflow and zero gay lights

>>102554574
Why not just get the lancool 216 and put it on the floor?

>>102554574
I'd probably get the A3 mATX in your situation.
Lancool 216 is an affordable mid-tower case to fit in relatively large video cards.

>>102554574
If you like your current desk, don't go looking for a new one
I fucking HATED having to go look for a new desk
So fucking difficult to find one that fits well in room, has space for pc, right width & height, etc.

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>>102548081
Anybody got recs for a cheap X99 board? I want to upgrade my home server and I don't want to buy chinkshit.

>>102554608

it seems dirty to me. Is there a platform with wheels I could buy to put the pc on the floor?

This my current setup.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3XBzbL

Should I upgrade the GPU to a 4070 Ti Super to meet, 1440p/60 or go for a 4080 Super?

>>102553031
>Your C1 is brighter by virtue of just being a bigger panel able to throw out a higher quantity of photons
Yeah for sure, it's hard to compare a 55" TV with a 27" monitor in that regard. My main gripe is the SDR brightness being kinda low overall.
>Tried doing side-by-side A/B comparisons with quality footage?
Just tried it with the demo footage you posted. While I feel like there's a little more brightness out of my C1 overall, it wasn't as bad of a difference as I thought.
In fact I think the QD-OLED was definitely brighter and better looking on certain colors and highlights, especially green and purple.

Only thing I'm still mixed about are the color profiles, the sRGB mode just seems very dull for an OLED (which is fair). I'll probably experiment with DCI-P3 and other profiles a bit.

>>102554700
>wants cheap x99 boards
>but dont want to buy chinkshit
nigga, you do know x99 ARE chinkshit???
just save a bit of money and buy a supermicro board. even the last gen boars are now pretty affordable.

>>102554461
>>102554470
neat thanks!

>>102554794
Get the 4070Ti Super.
I have a 4080 and I can easily do 3 monitors at 1440p/144Hz. Getting a 4080 and even a Super is overkill if you just want 1440/60. You can even upgrade to 3 monitors with the 4070Ti Super if you still want to stay at 1440/60.

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>>102554794
>>102554852

Forgot to mention but this GPU Upgrade is mainly to play MH Wilds at 1440p/60.

>>102554852
If I want 144Hz would a 4070 Ti Super still be enough?

>>102554876
I still say get the 4070Ti Super. It's nit like you're playing the game at 3 screens at the same time.

>>102554794
I'd wait a bit longer for the 5080 specs if you're planning to spend +$800 on a video card towards the end of the RTX 40 series product cycle.
Especially if you're considering the 4080 Super.

4070 Ti Super would feel like a decent purchase if they were at least $100 off.

>>102554898
For one monitor and one game, probably, yeah. Might have to lower settings a bit.

>>102554876
>mainly to play MH Wilds
That's a late Feb '25 title. It's worth waiting for the 5080 then, even if it'll cost more.
Rumors are saying performance is expected to be between a 4090D and the regular 4090.

>>102554876
>6700xt/4060 for 1080p60 on medium settings (with frame gen)
straight fucking criminal

>>102554935
>>102554910
Thanks for the info lads. I'll continue to Wait™

>psu making some sporadic crackling noises, like case fans hitting dust/something
>I need my pc to work so no lengthy RMA
What should I do? I think I'll buy a new psu but I'm broke right now so I'd need to wait a month or so to save up money
I'm afraid of ruining my puter bros :(

>Asus ROG STRIX B550-F GAMING WIFI II ATX AM4 Motherboard
what can I get that's basically a straight upgrade to this but with more usb 3.0 and m.2 ports?

>>102555199
just go to AM5 already

>>102554988
doesn't seem unreasonable to me, the 4060 is not much stronger than the 1080ti

>>102554225
>1-2 weeks
This is more what I was wondering.
>>102554280
>I buy random junk from AliExpress from time to time.
Kek, based
>>102554431
I use Amazon also. They want the same price as my local Microcenter, mid-$190's. I use eBay too, but even eBay prices are approx $190. Ali link anon posted is $135 and free shipping. But I guess if I'm willing to buy used CPU's and GPUs on eBay, isn't much more risk ordering from the bugmen.

>>102554988
The main question is if Wilds is GPU-bound or CPU-bound to an extent like Dragons Dogma 2 is. Because their recommended CPUs are the Ryzen 3600X and the 5500, which aren't new and by no means high end.

>>102555278
>frame gen as a recommended setting
lol

>>102554700
eBay e-waste recyclers. Seriously.

Hey /pcbg/, so I never OC'd my 1060. Afterburner has been a breeze, but I want to fuck around with maybe undervolting the new 1080. Do I really need to run OC Scanner first to fuck with the voltage curve? Or the .cfg edit?
>inb4 "Unlock voltage control" in settings
>inb4 you should now be able to use the "core voltage" slider
No, that's not what I'm talking about, but ty. I may be a boomer, but I'm not a complete idiot.

>>102555127
I wouldn't fuck around with PSU issues.
If you're sure it's just fan noise, get an air duster and clean the PC/PSU.

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>>102555555
>OC Scanner
Is poorly implemented.
Follow the guide below, OC the GPU core before you set an undervolt.
+80~120MHz GPU core OC should be stable.
https://github.com/LunarPSD/NvidiaOverclocking/blob/main/Nvidia%20Overclocking.md

>>102555585
I'm already running a +210Mhz core clock and +510 mem clock. Seems to be the sweet spot after testing.
Also holy shit, I've never gotten that many repeating digits

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How much is this PC worth? This guys is offering to trade it for my motorcycle?

Is the 3050 6gb worth getting at $175 if I don't really plan on playing anything released this decade on it?

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>>102555957
Pics of the GPU and actual computer

>>102555984
rgb is very gay and brings down the computer's value by $1000

>>102555555
ACK IN MY DAY THIS BOARD WAS FOR GURO

>>102556018
I agree aesthetically it looks bad, but how are the components?

>>102555957
>>102555984
The case seems to be one of the cheaper white cases.
Corsair fans and AIO are nothing special.
MSI Ventus is the reference tier model. Again, nothing special.
Overpriced ASUS ROG Strix board and Corsair RGB kit.
Overspecced 1000W PSU considering all those components.

He could've bought a 4080 Super if he didn't pay all that white, Corsair, Strix tax, and bought a more reasonable PSU.

This is something a middle schooler would build.

white builds are worth the price
i paid extra for my white components because i hate blacks

>>102555961
no unless you absolutely want a card that doesn't require a psu

>>102556147
>tfw black everything but gpu is white because it was cheap

>>102556126
So how much would you say all that is worth?

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>>102555961
>>102556153
>Reminder
>There are no 1080p cards or 4K cards
>Everything is dependent on what software (games) you want to run and the specs they need
>Figure out what games you want to play before you choose your card

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>>102555957
>7800x3d
>4070ti
>$3-5k bike
>Willing to get scalped because picrel
>>102555555
WITNESSED!

>>102555957
Tell him that he's trying to swindle you with that 4070 ti and he should have got a 4090

>>102556281
>$3-5k bike
I wish, anon, I wish.

>>102556225
He didn't disclose the storage and monitor model.
If it's got a decent 2TB NVMe drive, I would say the used system (excluding monitor) is worth around $1600.
The white board in that pic is probably a Strix-A board, it's for children.
I'm not expecting that guy to bundle a good monitor in the deal.

This is the kind of system you can get if you strip away all the overpriced shit.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/p8RwGP
I put 7700X CPU because the reasonably priced 7800X3Ds are out of stock atm.

>>102555957
>Selling your Honder
Bad idea. Honders are love.

>>102556312
AIO isn't necessary to cool a 7700X or 7800X3D, but I added it in for comparison's sake.

>>102556300
Check your craigslist of something, how much the bike is selling for.

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Anons which type of tower cooler is most optimal? and cheap

>>102556389
I use B only because of symmetry autism

>>102556331
I’ve got another one. I’m just trying to get rid of the bike

>>102556343
It has a big gash on the gas tank from being laid down at a low speed. Mechanically it’s fine, but that drops the selling price significantly. At most, I’ve been offered $3k. Usually I get around $2.5k

>>102556428
Whats your other bike?

>>102556389
I like C. But D could work if you have a case exhaust fan close to the metal tower. The bigger the tower the better it absorbs heat. And the more fans you have the more it can dissipate that heat.
Cheapest is A. C is most expensive. I wouldn't bother with B since you can get a similar result using A and an exhaust lose to the tower.

>>102556389
I use C because that's the best I can do whithout going AIO. Not putting water in my computer hahahahahahaha.... Just no.

>>102555961
Absolutely fucking not. Get a used 5700xt, 6600xt, 2060 Super.
>>102556126
The retard is trying take anon to the cleaners. The 7800x3d is being sold stupid high on the second-hand used market. Same goes for 4070ti's. Include used Arc sellers in that as well. That build is worth $2k at most.

>>102556389
C is best, A is cheapest, the difference between A and B, or C and D, is like a degree

>buy amd
>raw performance is great
>no need for fsr
>drivers work perfectly
>zero problems playing new games

Why is the 7900 XTX considered bad again?

>>102556508
worse performance than the 4090

>>102556455
Honda cbr 500. Much newer. Frankly I’m trying to sell both and get a rebel 1000

>>102556474
$2k is not *that* much lower than the bikes worth, but I already have a PC and it seems like his isn’t that good

>>102556300
How bad of shape is the fucking bike in anon?
>>102556428
Well that answers that for the most part.
>"Mechanically it's fine"
Yep, I'd offer you $2k for it at most. That's if it has decent tires, battery, and starts first time.
tl;dr >>102556474 is right. Seems like a fair trade. I'd ask for screenshots or a vid of the system running, with things like cpu-z, gpu-z, hwinfo, etc to make sure everything seems working right.

>>102556523
>Honda cbr 500.
You should join us on /dbt/. We have CB500 leg legion guild.
>rebel 1000
I can't into cruisers, they give me tailbone pain. My next bike is going to be an ADV. A GS hopefully.

>1800X
AMD is BACK
>5800X3D
Kino
>7800X3D and 7950X3D
KINO

What can we expect from 9800X3D and 9950X3D?

>>102556592
As well as a detailed list of components too. Hell, could probably part it out and even make some money on it. Wanna buy a Dell OEM 1080 blower? Lel

>>102556611
Same as 7950x3d with lower power consumption. Zen5 is actually just zen4.5.

>>102555961
You can do much better than a 3050, especially the 6gb model of all things. Even if you aren't interested in playing games made in the mid 2020's onwards, it still isn't the best for the games made in the 2010s.

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>>102556611
>Those digits
>No mention of 3700/3800x
Sad panda, chkd.

>>7950X3D
almost $600 on amazon
what gives?

>>102556650
What are the GOAT CPUs and GPUs?

Tfw too autistic to find a computer desk without getting bored or frustrated but the rest of the computer shit is smooth sailing easy every time

>>102556650
Those sucked but 3600 was great

Why did the Phenom II and FX get so much hate? Were they really that bad?

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>>102556389
B
>>102556404
Based...but sometimes the offset to clear the ram can trigger the OCD/tism even more. That's why I refuse to have see through side panels.
>>102556460
Exhaust fan is GOAT in my case, pin intended.
>>102556497
If we're just talking coolers, yes. If you take fan placement, airflow and fan management/curves into account, it can add up to -5° or even a little more.

>>102556706
not sure about what kind of "hate" are you talking about but
>Phenom II
it was the whitest cpu until ryzen came out

>>102556734
>>102556734
>>102556734

>>102556706
FX CPUs from what I remember really weren't great when it came to some open world games like Saints Row 3 or Far Cry 5, there was only so much it could have done. Funnily enough they were able to play games like Division 1 and GTA5 perfectly fine, but I assume those were more GPU dependent games.

>>102556679
CPU's? 8086. Honorable mention is the k6-2. Fight me
GPU's? 8800 GTX, in SLi

>>102556508
marketing and lies.

>>102556520
Compare it to 4080 or one of the lower ti or super versions in the same price bracket.

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>>102553321
Why are you like this?

>>102553346
It helps, thank you.

>>102557388
you get what you pay for

What's the state of Nvidia on Linux? Last time I checked you basically had to go AMD

>MONITOR
>1440p: ASRock PG27QFT2A, Dell G2724D

Anything else? I think they kinda lack features and the frame looks thick.

>>102557746
works fine on my machine

>>102557867
>features
What features anon? Does it not display tentacle pron?

>>102557746
still terrible
this is your only warning because i know you've already convinced yourself to buy NVIDIA