Is there a real necessity to have a PSU above 700w?

imagine the smell

>>102579492
What form of technology does this image depict?

>>102579520
If you have a monster GPU

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of all places why over the ram??

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>>102579492
What does this image have to do with PC buildan?

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>>102579520
yes when you don't want you expensive GPU lacking power during spikes

>>102579544
no space on the other side

>>102579532
Going to the brand new Microcenter that just opened in Florida in this 100F heat.

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>>102579544

I wanna lick her feet while i plap

Shill me your favorite AM5 ATX mobo

>>102579556
>>102579562

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If this is true and xbox game bar faggotry is no longer required it's over for the 7800X3D

Homura would be an iToddler.

>>102579582
The full story is now posted
https://www.techpowerup.com/327057/amd-ryzen-9-9950x3d-and-9900x3d-to-feature-3d-v-cache-on-both-ccd-chiplets

>>102579592
>A new report by Benchlife.info claims that the higher core-count 9950X3D and 9900X3D will implement 3D V-cache on both CCD chiplets, giving these processors an impressive 192 MB of L3 cache (96 MB per CCD), and 208 MB or 204 MB of "total cache" (L2+L3). The report also says that AMD is planning a Ryzen 5 9600X3D chip, its second attempt at taking on Intel's Core i5 lineup, following its very recent release of the Ryzen 5 7600X3D, which ended up 1-3% short of the Core i5-14600K in gaming workloads. There's no word on whether the 9600X3D will launch in October alongside the 9800X3D, or in Q1-2025 with the Ryzen 9 9000X3D series.

Well, I guess it's time to wait some more.

>>102579582
wont the x900 sku have 8+4 ccd config so itd still need to park the cores?

>>102579583
she'll be crawling on all fours like a toddler when im finished

Reposting from end of last thread

I'm looking for a mouse recommendation, lads.
Is there an MMO/MOBA mouse that doesn't suck and is livable full-time in other types of games? It seems like the Razer Nagas with swappable side plates are the only ones that achieve this. Even mice with more "in-betweener" 6-button clusters have all sorts of QC issues, but if there's a decent one, I'd like to give it a shot.
I've been a pretty happy G502/Basilisk user for a long time, but my desire for more thumb buttons is becoming too great to ignore.

Intel fixed the vmin shift instability issue

>>102579558
When does this even ever happen? You'd have to be playing at some retarded resolution like 4k and running the most modded realistic videogame on earth. Even then, if you're pushing the limit to what your GPU can handle, then it's not even because the game requires it, it's literally because it's badly optimized. We're talking about games made for consoles that have 9 year old hardware running on 1080p, there's literally no reason for this to happen and nobody should prepare for this situation because it shouldn't even happen.

>arrow lake might be good
>lisa drunkenly (again, ffs lisa stay out of the office when on the sauce) orders MOAR CACHE LMAO for zen
>arrow lake who?

>>102579637
back to your echochamber

>GeForce 7950 GT - 512 MB, GDDR3, 256 bit
>GeForce 8800 Ultra - 768 MB, GDDR3, 384 bit
>NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GTX - 512 MB, GDDR3, 256 bit
>NVIDIA GeForce GTX 590 - 1536 MB, GDDR5, 384 bit
>NVIDIA GeForce GTX 690 (dual GPU card)- 2 GB, GDDR5, 256 bit
>NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780 Ti - 3 GB, GDDR5, 384 bit
>NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 Ti - 6 GB, GDDR5, 384 bit
>NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti - 11 GB, GDDR5X, 352 bit
>NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER - 6 GB, GDDR6, 192 bit
>NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti - 11 GB GDDR6
>NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 - 24 GB, GDDR6X, 384 bit
>NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Ti - 24 GB, GDDR6X, 384 bit
>NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 - 24 GB, GDDR6X, 384 bit
>NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5090 - 32 GB

If you weren't using these, you may as well be using lol amd

>>102579656
>t. Pat

>>102579662
two words for you zoomer
capacitor plague

https://wccftech.com/nvidia-24-gb-geforce-rtx-5080-gpu-after-16-gb-first-gaming-blackwell-shipments-spotted/

>same 80 SM but using 3GB GDDR7 modules
>not cut down GB202 384-bit or shifting up which chip goes with which SKU
put me back to sleep for 2 years

>The GeForce 7950 GT was a graphics card by NVIDIA, launched on August 6th, 2006.
Most ITT were 1-3 years old

>600W
Fucking hell, how big is the heatsink gonna be?
How long until the horizontal form factors returns to computers?

I just burped and farted at the same time, it was disgusting.

>>102579662
8800 ultra was a waste of money but man it was a beast.
that paired with the 3007wfp was sweet

>>102579631
transient spikes last a microsecond but will sometimes double the base consumption of your card even in light games like Doom Eternal.
why is 4k a retarded resolution btw?

RTX 4080 12GB & 16GB REBORN AS RTX 5080 16GB & 24GB

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>>>102579657
>AI-powered monitor
soon everything will have something AI. AI mouses and keyboards and headphones and stuff

Boy wouldn't it be fun to have the latest and greatest 8gb gpu? Just think you get to celebrate 10 years of memory stagnation while resolutions have nearly quadrupled, framerates easily doubling and textures getting ever more detailed. Naturally none of the above actually matter, 8gb is enough :^)

>>102579742
>ai keyboard automatically detects spelling mistakes and corrects them on the fly
based

just buy a console if you cant afford a proper gayming rig

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>>102579492
Critic my upcoming build
https://fr.pcpartpicker.com/list/4FX3VW

Want to play vidya on it and not have to change (much) for the next 5-10 years.

Budget's around €3K.

I'm not planning on buying anything until I move into my new home, and that's two months from now -- should I wait some more for a newer GPU/whatever?

>>102579736
That's part of why I said it was poorly optimized, their target demographic are people that play on consoles, if you're building a PC that has enough difference in hardware that it has twice the processing power of a console and you still get hiccups similar to those, then it's literally not even hardware issues or your PC being bad, it's the game that is a shitty port. If you were to build PCs with shitty ports in mind that have issues on your platform then you're never going to have hardware that is good enough even 5 years from now. I'm tired of people building ricer builds and playing PC ports that require the equivalent of a NASA supercomputer to play, just because the devs don't care about making good ports, it's the current state of the industry and it has been so for pretty much the entire time it has existed.

>>102579823
looks fine
if you have to wait that long, might as well see what nvidia/amd have coming out next year

>>102579492
I look exactly like this.

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>>102579823
>7800X3D
New CCDs have entered the chat

>>102579849
How long will 7800X3D last before an upgrade?

>>102579662
You forget something
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-gtx-780-ti-6-gb.c3302

>>102579843
???

>>102579901
>The GeForce GTX 780 Ti 6 GB was a graphics card by NVIDIA, that was never released
>never released

Bro?

>>102579754
just learn to program gameshitter

>>102579879
When we move from 64 bit to 128 bit.

>>102579926
I'm not supporting your voodoo2.

>>102579879
Unironically until the next great paradigm shift.
There's nothing left to improve.
Silicon has hit the wall.

>>102579932
>>102579942
What are the flaws of the 7800X3D and 7950X3D

>>102579921
If you're getting issues playing old games on a PC that is the equivalent of three consoles combined, then I think that it might not be your PC that has an issue, it might just be the fact that the port is horrible. Are you dense?

>>102579823
>almost a thousand euros for a 4070 Ti Super
Seems like a terrible deal.

>>102579973
>What are the flaws of the 7800X3D
its not intel
>and 7950X3D
its not intel and requires gamebar to be active to schedule properly but that isn't foolproof either as it operates on a whitelist scheme, so you might have to use tools like process lasso to manually tame it.

>>102579977
>are you dense?
the irony. i'm done reading your uninformed nonsense. buy a proper PSU retard.

>>102579990
4090 is €2K.
Should I get an RX 7900 XTX instead of a 4070 super TI? They're basically the same price.

>>102579757
You mean reports them to the government

>>102579973
>7800X3D
8 cores is too few if you regularly do big dick processing tasks.

>>102579823
You're overspending on the cooler, SSD, GPU and the PSU while underspending on the mobo. If you want it long term, B650E would be better. The monitor is just.. I don't mean to be rude, but what were you thinking?

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ATX 3.X PSUs can handle transient spikes very well regardless of the total wattage of the unit.
The PCIe connection for the video card needs to handle transient loads of up to 3x the power consumption (3* 600W for 850W or higher PSU).

https://hwbusters.com/psus/intel-atx-v3-0-specification-explained-briefly/
https://www.bequiet.com/en/insidebequiet/3953

Almost all PSUs in PCPartPicker with at least one PCIe 12+4-Pin 12VHPWR Connector should be following ATX 3.X specs.

You buy a 1000W or higher PSUs when you expect the video card to constantly pull over 500W of power.
850W or even a good 750W unit is safe enough for a 4080 Super or below.
4090 is also fine with 850W if you don't plan to have it OC'd at 1.075~1.1V.

>>102580088
>if you regularly do big dick processing tasks.
Name one single task that requires that much apart from watching porn in 4K on three different monitors.

>>102579492
imagine the mating press

>>102580018
The 7900XTX easily beats it in raster. In RT if can be close or worse depending on how heavy it is so you really need to ask yourself how much RT and DLSS matter to you in order to make the choice. Well there's also the 24GB vs 16GB VRAM difference but it may not matter much unless you specifically know what game/application will benefit.

>>102579823
id go with a 2×24 kit and up the monitor to like 240hz if you play competitive games
else id save on the cpu and get a beefier gpu
not too sure honestly

>>102579492
Why doesnt homu understand that madoka is not a carpet muncher?

>>102579492
Is lesbian correction a technology?

>>102580018
If you enjoy coil whine, ridiculous power draws and your GPU falling to 4060 levels of performance everytime you look at RT, then yes. AMD's best card is the 7800XT, anything above that is not worth considering.

>>102580111
A friend told me about the Q27G4X, and when I look at it, it seems solid: G-sync, 180hz refresh rate, loadsa colours, low power consumption. What's the trick? Is it because it's IPS and not VA?
I've no IT education, if that wasn't obvious.

>>102580177
I just want a GPU that I won't have to upgrade for the next 10 years while playing recent-ish games at OK quality.

>>102580211
Why go for 2x24 instead of 2x32?
Genuine question

>>102580263
Is the 7800XT comparable to the 4070 super TI, or a gen below?

>>102579492
SEXOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

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How many decades until the american Intel factory is finished?

Are there any better PSU cables for the RM850x shift that won't melt my GPU?
I'm concerned about how flimsy they are when I have to twist and bend them around because of the way they're just made

>>102580356
The resolution anon. It's a 1080p monitor. Your pc is easily capable of 4k in most games (that aren't shit). The minimum I would get is a 1440p monitor, but at that point, why spend more on 4070ti super for the extra VRAM. And no, 7800XT is a tier below 4070 super. Anything below 4070 super is AMD dominated and I wouldn't recommend NVIDIA in that price bracket. However, when you go higher than 7800XT, the value for NVIDIA cards increases thanks to a larger feature set, quality upscaling and significantly better RT performance.

>>102580389
16 decades at best 13 at worst, another sexo girl.

>>102580389
You didn't need to make that plural.

Doing my first AIO build. Why are only 3 of the Frozen Edge's backplate pins threaded? Am I not supposed to put a thumbscrew over the other one?
Using a MAG Z790 Tomahawk, if that matters.

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Day 540 of waiting for next-gen GPUs.

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good laptop?

>>102580420
Use the cables bundled with the PSU, unless there's a noticeable defect.
>I'm concerned about how flimsy they are when I have to twist and bend them around
People who buy beQuiet! PSUs complain their cables are too stiff, can't satisfy everyone.

Buy Corsair Type-5 power cables if you still want a replacement.
https://www.corsair.com/us/en/c/pc-components-accessories/psu-parts
https://www.corsair.com/us/en/s/psu-cable-compatibility

>>102580453
Thanks for your answers!

The AIC Q27G4X is advertised as a 1440p monitor though, with a maximum resolution of 3840 x 2160 px. Am I misreading things or are they straight-up lying?

If the 7900 XTX is a mess and the 7800XT is a tier below the 4070 super, then why should I not stay with the 4070 super TI?

>>102580503
on paper yes, in reality you're basically paying to beta test new software and hardware.

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Dears! In case you can illuminate me

I recently built an AM5 with the B650 Gigabyte Arous Ax ICE and a 7600X

I purchased 2x32GB DDR5 6000 Kingston Ram. When installing in dual channel (A2/B2) BIOS never posts and is stuck at infamous Dram red led. I read a lot about it. I am pretty convinced (amy I be wrong) that the problem is they are Dual-sided sticks, and when the MB tries to dual-channel them its unable.

I can return the sticks. However, they work in single channel mode (at onlye 3600 speed, haven't messed with profiles yet and it does not look promising). I wanted to ask in case so. knowledgeable anon reads me:

I am obliged to mount 4x16gb sticks in case I really want those 64GB of ram? 2x32 is cheaper and feels better, bt I am afraid this will happen again. Do yyou have any recomendations? Do you really think the Dram light and no Post is caused by this.

The thing is I have spent really a lot of hours trying to solve/config/flashing/reading (you can picture it).

paz, spaingshfag here, mgracias

>>102580674
Put them all the way in to begin with.

>>102580177
>>The 7900XTX easily beats it in raster.
Nope

>>102580177
>>102580356
>>102580701
>AMD

Lmao

3060 12GB > 7900 XTX

>>102580544
This is a better build within your €3K budget.
if you don't like cases with a glass side panel, be Quiet Silent Base 802 is a decent choice.
The board on my list has WiFi/BT, these boards include at least one M.2 SSD slot with a heatsink.
You don't need a Titanium 1000W PSU for that build, the CPU and video card are power efficient.
You can also save a bit of money by choosing a different CPU cooler unless you insist on having Noctua.
https://fr.pcpartpicker.com/list/m9fCsh

Getting my fury renegade 2tb ssd today. should i use it as boot? have a 500gb crucial psomething, does have cache i think

>>102580791
Thanks for the list!

I went for the 1000w PSU to future proof my build. My thinking was that future components would require more power, so why not get a chunkier PSU right now and save me the hassle?

I chose Noctua because I've heard they're the quietest, and I don't mind paying a bit extra for less noise.

It's hard making decisions on components as I keep finding contradictory reviews.

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>However, it looks like those who invested in the AMD X670E platforms are facing several issues with the primary one being their Gen5 SSDs being limited to Gen1 speeds. This issue is affecting many customers who are running a Gen5 SSD on their X670E motherboard and it's not just Gen5 speeds being limited. When both the first Gen5 SSD slot and the PCIe Gen5 slot are populated, the system experiences random crashes, with several users unable to boot into Windows.

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>>102580693

but they are^^

I read at Gigabyte that this (KF560C30BWEAK2-64) are compatible. But I doubt I can set them in dual channel (lots of people having problems with Dram light and no post with 2x32gb and similar configs)

Will I be safer mounting 4x16gb single sided sticks? Should I go ahead and try this model (mine is very similar but it is actually not listed in the gigabyte's compatibility page) https://www.gigabyte.com/es/Motherboard/B650-AORUS-ELITE-AX-ICE/support#support-memsup

sorry if I'm spammig. I think though that some people may have previously been in the same boat as I am now

Why can't I find any DDR5 dummy ram light kits

>>102580674
Did you wait at least five minutes or so to allow the initial memory training to complete?
If your motherboard has CPU/DRAM-less BIOS flash option, update the board BIOS to the latest stable version and try it again.

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What the hell happened to Nvidia? Their drivers are now worse than AMD. DLSS is looking worse than FSR in newer games. Why are people still recommending the 4070 Super over the 7800XT or 7900GRE?

>>102580934
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4P1ZK7lHe50

>>102580544
Q27G4X is 1440p, however the one you chose in your build is the 27G4X which is the 1080p variant. The 4K variant is the U27G3X. As for 4070ti super, you should stick to it but only if you want to game on 4k or 1440p since it only has roughly 18% more performance than the 4070 super. The main reason to go for a 4070ti super isn't the 18% more performance, it's the larger VRAM. The higher the resolution, the more VRAM it's going to eat up. So 16gb VRAM becomes more important/necessary when gaming at 4k or 1440p, especially for future proofing it. I also wouldn't recommend the 4080 super that the other anon suggested in his list. At that point you might as well wait for the 50 series cards.

>>102580934
Nvidia's marketing budget is insane that's why

>>102579631
Anyone who doesn't allow enough power overhead for a theoretical 100% spike in system resources is fucking retarded. It WILL happen at some point, even if it's for a microsecond

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>>102580949
>NVIDIA 560.94
?

Anyone know a mouse whose scroll wheel won't shit the bed from excessive m3 use? Only need 2 side buttons and would prefer wireless. An m3 separate from the wheel is fine as long as it's easily and comfortably accessible.
Some anon recommended the Deathadder but not sure which one they meant and I don't need luxury stuff so the new ones seem excessive.

>>102580973
they still havent fixed it, all they are adding is "game ready" support on top which is basically >>102580934 webm

>>102580934
>Why are people still recommending the 4070 Super over the 7800XT or 7900GRE?
We have resident shills here.

>>102579720
tfw dual VHPWR12 gpus by 2026

>>102580885
I read a motherboard market report covering am5 sales in Japan and like 80-90% of buyers bought b650 so that's a richfag (who bought x670e and two gen5 m2) first world problem

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>>102580881
NH-D15 G2's overbuilt to cool CPUs that draw well over 150W of power relatively silently.
7800X3D gets nowhere near that power draw in normal gaming/productivity loads.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9dDL5GKuRQ
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/air-cooling/scythe-mugen-6-and-mugen-6-black-edition-review
https://thinkcomputers.org/scythe-mugen-6-review/

If you have future-proofing in mind, a 1000W unit.
You don't need a Titanium unit unless you're a power/noise schizo, there's going to be coil whine on that DP13 Titanium anyway.
https://fr.pcpartpicker.com/product/fKHqqs/be-quiet-pure-power-12-m-1000-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-bn506

RTX 5080's expected to be released early next year btw, it will probably cost more than the 4080 Super.

>>102580934
>turns on DLSS
>WHY DOES THE IMAGE QUALITY LOOK LIKE SHIT????

>>102580934
>why new game look shit??

>>102580949
3dgameman needs to buy an ad

>>102581044
your motherboard tray is removable and he's gonna fuck it.

>>102580934
Inb4 shills come in and say it's a developer implementation problem and not Nvidia's fault

>>102580934
AI has reached the point where it trained on so much data it reverse looped into corrupted slop.

>>102581052
No it's not and I wouldn't recommend it since it'd mutilate or slice off his genitalia

>>102581066
>nuAge consoi port coded by jeets
It's 50/50 desu

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>>102580912

that's a very good point. Everytime you change any stick boot takes its time due to that training (as new to me as no-pin cpus are, im quite the boomer). It usually takes ~2minutes and boot times are fast after that (until you change it). Worked with one stick or both at A1/B1. When trying A2/B2 I have really waited a lot of time, even half an hour. I think it is really stuck. When something doesnt go well usually the mobo suths down and try previous configurations but in this case it is stuch with the Dram light --- so yes I have tried waiting, really a lot of time. Maybe I need to wait more but I doubt it. But will try again, thnku anon

About the BIOS, I updated to latest version. It is called F32b, though, that b sounds odd, maybe I should try a previous one (https://www.gigabyte.com/es/Motherboard/B650-AORUS-ELITE-AX-ICE/support#support-dl-bios)

gracias man

>>102580955
Aaaaaah that makes sense why it was so inexpensive!
The Q27G4X still seems to be a good 1440p monitor at that price range though, or am I missing something?

>>102581023
Thanks for the info! downgrading to Gold will save me a pretty penny.
Is there an alternative to the Scythe Mugen 6 you'd recommend?

Looking for a PSU to support a a 5090 with my 5800x3d. Currently have a evga gold rated 650w from 2017. I'm guessing I need something 800-1000?

>>102581177
No, it's fine for the price. Look for some 2160p monitors and sort by price low to high. If something there fits your budget, then I'd still recommend a 4k display if you're going to pair it with 4070ti super. Even upscaled 4k look better than native 1440p while roughly the same performance cost so might want to look into that. Also, not that anon but basically any 2 fan 6 heatpipe cooler will be more than enough for the 7800x3d.

>>102581242
Wait until the new generation of PSUs so you can have two 12VHPWR connectors without an adapter.

>>102581242
7800x3d already bottlenecks 4090 easily
I doubt your 5800x3d can keep up with the 5090 short of running it at 8k

Explain to me why I should buy an ATX 3.0 PSU when every Nvidia card comes with a 12vhpwr adapter anyways

>>102581307
You shouldn't since the connector can burn on either end and it's a pita to swap your PSU for a new one because the port burned.
The best compromise would be to get an atx2.0 PSU that has native 12vhpwr adapter cables from the manufacturer so the risk of burning is only on the GPU side.

who do I buy my nvidia GPUs from now that EVGA is dead? I was sort of interested in giving PNY a chance

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>>102581329
picrel

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Third time's a charm Intelbros!

>>102580949
works on my machine (gtx 1080)

homura

>>102581346
Sapphire
Powercolor
Asrock
oh wait

>>102581353
I wonder what they changed
Feels like only buildzoid is investigating the differences between these ucode updates while other techtubers are out doing unboxing videos or pointless shill content

>>102581346
Pny is good, especially their XLR8 cards, which usually have overkill coolers but aren't absurdly expensive like Asus strix

>>102581277
That's probably the right choice. However, I'm trying to build a sort of server pc rn and was thinking of reusing my current psu for that rather than having to buy another similar rated psu and then also having to upgrade in the future.

>>102581298
32gb is what caught my eye, the perf in games is whatever, was just posting current CPU for wattage.

>>102581346
The cheapest one.

>>102581307
ATX 3.X isn't just about the new connector, details explained in >>102580112
The major benefit of owning an ATX 3.X PSU is you know PCie connection (video card) passed the 3x transient load threshold (3x 600W = 1800W transient load without triggering OPP).

>>102580885
firmware bug. will likely be solved very soon;

>>102581329
Been going 2 years strong with the 3 way adapter without issue. Just don't bend anything

I bought the KTC H27T22 for $120 sale price at my local Brandsmart and its a very good monitor

>>102580934
>Resident Nvidia pajeet spammer on like support

>>102581458
*life support

>>102581264
Thanks!

I plan to emulate old PC game up to late '90s era using 86box.
I have a budget of $750.
I live in the USA.
Is this build good?

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VKMmyg

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 3.8 GHz 8-Core Processor ($166.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black Edition 42 CFM CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Amazon)
Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver 3.5 g Thermal Paste ($5.95 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B550 UD AC ATX AM4 Motherboard ($104.36 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($32.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($104.97 @ Amazon)
Video Card: ASRock Challenger D Radeon RX 6600 8 GB Video Card ($189.97 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Pop Air ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ B&H)
Power Supply: MSI MAG A650BN 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($54.99 @ MSI)
Total: $739.21
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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>Ryzen 7600 + Radeon 7600

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>>102581446
Having a 12VHPWR/12V-2x6 connector on the PSU side isn't a requirement of the ATX 3.x spec anyway.
Both Corsair and Super Flower's ATX 3.x units supply a 12VHPWR/12V-2x6 cable with PCIe/proprietary connection at the PSU end.

>>102581497
>Hyper 212 in current year
>Buying separate thermal paste in current year
For the same price of the cooler+paste you can get the peerless assassin, a dual tower cooler that comes with its own paste

>>102581434
if the transient load is 3x600W I want the OPP to be triggered, that's its job
it doesn't matter TOO much because the breaker should trip as well

Bros, anyone go back to a 27"-32" after using 34" UW?

Long-term, does a tube of thermal paste have to be stored any specific way? Or can I just put the tube in my cabinet then forget about it?

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>>102581546
You're a brainlet unable to understand the ATX 3.x units are overbuilt to safely endure those high and near instantaneous transients.
That's why it's possible to run a 4090 system on a 600~650W Seasonic PSUs, the good units are simply overbuilt/overspecced.

There are obviously overbuilt ATX 2.x units that also pass these requirements, but the 3.x standards makes it much clearer which specific models meet them.

https://edc.intel.com/content/www/us/en/design/ipla/software-development-platforms/client/platforms/alder-lake-desktop/atx-version-3-0-multi-rail-desktop-platform-power-supply-design-guide/2.0/2.01/psu-power-excursion/

>>102581592
package says store in a cool dry place away from sunlight.

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>>102579492
Can I run older games like Deus Ex, VTMB etc. on new AMD GPUs or could there be some kind of compatibility issue?

>>102581594
>You're a brainlet unable to understand the ATX 3.x units are overbuilt
no, you are a brainlet unable to understand that the overcurrent protection on PSUs isn't there just to protect the PSU itself
15A circuits in America are only rated for 1800W, if your 600W product is drawing 1800W in transient spikes, it's defective

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>>102581346
PNY Verto cards are barebones reference models.
PNY XLR8 are the ones worth buying, if you can look past the awful-looking cooler shrouds.
XLR8 has good cooling, but a boring, power-limited vBIOS with no extra OC headroom.

ASUS would be easy to recommend if they hadn't picked a shitty thermal paste supplier.

>google acer nitro XV275K
>half of the results are 60hz/4ms response time, half are 160hz/1ms and there's even a couple 135hz throw in there
are they TRYING to trick me?

What's a decent monitor to get nowadays? IPS or VA, primarily for programming, browsing the net, watching movies. I only play old games, so don't need high frequencies, but Freesync support would be nice to have.
1080p or 4k (no 1440p), at least 24 inch, preferably more.
If it has a USB hub built in, that would help tremendously, but if it doesn't I'll just tape one to the side.

I've been using Dell ultrasharp for a decade, then their P series, and I'm wondering if there's anything to upgrade to.

Also it seems most large monitors are curved, are those any good? It might be dumb if I wanted to watch movies from a larger distance than just my desk.

>>102581646
I've been playing Command & Conquer 3, Red Alert 3, Dawn of War 2, Settlers 4 (with dgVoodoo), Heroes of Might & Magic 3 on my Ryzen 5600G, no issues. Someone said that DoW2 crashes if you have 16+ cores but that probably would be a problem on Intel too.
Actually I never had a problem with old games not working on new CPUs. I only ever had OS and driver incompatibilities, and one or two games with videocard specific problems (I think the 2010s Carmageddon revival never worked on the Vega 56).

>>102581594
Those 1000W transients should be handled by the MCCs and bulk capacitors on the gpu

>>102581685
There are standards set to deal with the transient current set for modern electrical circuits, dumb fuck retard.
Not my problem you if live in a shithole dwelling, you shouldn't be owning a 600W video card in that case.

>>102581690
looking on their site the Verto vs XLR is $30 for 30MHZ boost clock difference. t b h I would just get the one that doesn't look like shit for what is basically no change

>>102581745
>There are standards set to deal with the transient current set for modern electrical circuits, dumb fuck retard.
that's what I'm telling you, you stupid fucking gorilla nigger, that you shouldn't view loosening those standards as a good thing, get a PSU with overcurrent protection that works

>>102581728
You think those caps existing in high-power draw cards are cosmetics?
It takes both sides to deal with it.

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>>102580674
Did you *actually* put the sticks in A2/B2? Your image makes it look like they're in A2/B1 or A1/A2.

>>102581759
The 200% transient figure is fucking only for 100 microseconds, one hundred millionth of a second.
>According to ANSI standards, transient duration is about 1/16 times the time period of the voltage or current waveform, or about one millisecond.
>The typical duration of voltage transients is 50 microseconds and current transients occur for about 2 microseconds.
Keep making a mountain out of a molehill.

>>102581646
I think I tried VTMB when I had a 580 so I'd be surprised if newer amd cards can't run it
if you really care enough I could pirate deus ex & see if that runs on my 6600xt

>>102581497
If you could spend just a little bit extra, this is alot better and will allow alot of future upgrades to the GPU and modern gaming aswell.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8V4myg

>>102580934
>AMD sponsored game
>gimps nvidia
:O

>>102581862
>AMD sponsored game
>has DLSS
choose one and only one

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>>102581646
No, it is impossible - you need nvidia. Trust me bro, it came to me in a dream.

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>>102581815
It's all good.
I was just curious because I faintly remember having some issues with my HD series card (cant remember which one) back in the day.

>>102581862
wasn't the last god of war nvidia sponsored? it had reflex and latest dlss while amd was only fsr 1 while fsr2 got patched late and its still only 2.0

>>102581747
The looks are secondary, some people returned the Verto cards because they were too basic-bitch and the automatic fan control was behaving erratically.
This was for a $1000 4080 Super PNY Verto btw.

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>>102579662
I've never actually used an amd card but I've also never bought the absolute top of the line nvidia offering either. Been genuinely considering going amd this time if RDNA 4 is what they are pitching it as.
>4080 performance @ $500
I've been thinking that I've been wasting money in the past because I never use the "features" I'm paying for like raytracing and dlss. Also, generally I just play a lot of older games, indie, and emulators so a lot of the time I'm not even using the performance I do have.

AMD bros, have you ever regretted your purchase? Do they really have a bunch of driver issues? Are radeon cards reliable? I've just always bought nvidia and never had any issues, but I'd rather not get taken for a ride on 50 series. I'm really not considering a 5090 but would consider a 5080 or the seemingly inevitable 5080ti. If I can get 4080 level performance with more vram for $500 though, I would strongly consider it.

>>102582013
>4080 level performance with more vram for $500
That's not going to happen on either side, I'll delete my pepe frog image folder if I'm wrong.
A 5080Ti with a cut-down GB202 chip is also going to be expensive, $1299 wouldn't be surprising.

>>102579492
i'd bust into her until that chest sags to the ground

2 months old 4070 for 400$ should I go for it or get the 7800xt instead?

>>102579643
>>102579709
Thanks for sharing your wisdom.
I trialed a used Naga trinity off of ebay so I know I can live with the wide shape, but I do still struggle to grip and lift it sometimes. Even with grip tape in key areas. But as you might expect, the 12-button panel broke after a few months of use. I also hate the circular 7 button panel it comes with so it's now living at my desk at work with the 2 button panel.
I just have to wonder why there is such a void in the market for these. If both of the Naga Pros have issues then I guess I'll just not consoom and cope with my Basilisk's precious few buttons.

>>102582093
Depends on the model & condition of the card, as well as the credibility of the seller.
You're not going to get a new $400, 12GB card from NVIDIA for a while.
5060's going to be 8GB, there's a chance the 5060Ti might have 12GB VRAM.

>>102579592
Now that theres going to be a lineup where everything from 6, 8, 12, 16 core amd cpus have same x3d cache on all ccd's its gonna be more complicated to rec cpus.

I suppose theres the question mark if the l3 cache works as well on 2 ccd cpus as with 7800x3d which had 1.

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>>102581513
>7800XT + 7800XT

>>102582145
People who want the very best will get the 9950X3D because it will have the highest boost clocks out of the -X3D chips.

>>102582132
Looks good on picture but he lives too far from me to test. Not sure about his credibility I'm new to the used platform but I can buy extra buyer protection for a few bucks.

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Hmm

>>102582230
Im still confused who are the people buying amd gpus
Like, literally no industry pundit uses amd except to do benchmarks that show how much better nvidia is.

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>RTX 4090 Ti GPU bracket surfaces for $14
imagine how powerful that card would have been

>>102581802
thank u anon sorri I didn't see you. Wells said, yes, I did. They are A1A2 in the photo because that's the only way to boot, in A2B2 (corresponding to your diagram yes) is how it won't (the manual advices to sit them as that) gracias igual man!

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>>102582013
>$500 4080
this is basically what is being claimed about the 8800
I'd probably be willing to do ~$1200 for the 5080ti but once they start talking $1500+ I just check out
I just don't game enough or play enough AAA slop to warrant that
and a $500 4080 sounds right up my alley

>>102582270
Imagine how powerful the 5090 that gets renamed for the pro workstation line is compared to the binned 5090 (5080)

>>102582165
AMD might need to look at making a monolithic cpu where you have 20+ cores on a single ccd with unified 3d cache if they want real improvements

>>102582270
all 144 SM enabled, instead of 128
23 Gbps memory modules
+5-10%

>>102582256
Im still confused who are the people dicksicking Nvidia this hard

>>102582256
The sane ones are mostly 1080p gamers because running DLSS or enabling RT for those tiers of cards isn't very practical.
The rest are some Linux users, contrarians.

>>102582336
Sure, I guess lots of teenagers have amd since their parents dont care about dlss or something and just buy based on price instead of quality of pixels.

Still its pretty weird you have some people claim 4k is viable now because upscaling, but 1440p would then be super viable thanks to dlss and everyone should hop onto it.

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>>102582287
Imagine hoping the company that released such an underwhelming 7800XT will sell a $500 video card that can match the 4080.
>'but it's not MCM this time!'
Monolithic RX 7600/XT were pure shit as well.

>muh rdna4 $500 nvidia killer
lmao @ believing early stage pricing rumors when they can be changed on a whim (remember rx 5700 and 7600)

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>>102582230
>0%
the absolute of Intel-Aviv

>>102582465
At least they said something about fsr4 having better AI based image upscaling since without it even intel would be better for future consoles, so the 10% of people who buy amd gpus for desktop will be less worse off as a result.

Why can't I just buy the cheapest B550 available? People talk about having good/cool VRMs and take notice of the audio chipset but is that all? Can't I just put a heatsink over the VRMs on the cheapest B550 I can find and be done with it?
I'm planning to install a R7 5700X3D on it.

First time buyers tempted to consider the RX 7700/7800 XT by AMD’s army of Advanced Marketing scammers (youtube, reddit, twitter, forums etc.) should be aware that AMD have a history of releasing benchmark busting, heavily marketed, sub standard products. Although Nvidia’s 4070 only offers comparable performance, it has a broader feature set (RT/DLSS 3.0) and offers far better game compatibility (drivers). PC gamers looking to join AMD’s “2%” GPU club (Steam stats: 5000/6000/7000 series combined mkt share) need to work on their critical thinking skills: Influencers (posing as reviewers) are paid handsomely to scam users into buying inferior products. Experienced gamers know all too well that high average fps are worthless when they are accompanied with stutters, random crashes, excessive noise and a limited feature set. [Sep '23 GPUPro]

>>102582563
VRM are just a way to rank the boards for overclocking, and since most people underclock their cpus these days its actually magical thinking of "good vram for oc = good mobo in general"

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>>102580211
>competitive games

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>>102580934
>Their drivers are now worse than AMD

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>>102582465
>4080 performance is a 50 series killer
who said this?

>>102582380
>imagine hoping
I'm just stating what is being claimed

>>102582612
Some claims are so stupid, they’re not worth spreading.
It’s probably spread by the same faggots that said the XTX will match the 4090.

>burger power hour coincides with nvidia shilling going full throttle
I need to stop nooooticing things.

>>102582256
people who want performance & not janky "features"

>>102582256
>Im still confused who are the people buying amd gpus

because you don't get nvidia iGPUs and the 5600G I'm using plays all the old shit I'm playing, and I'm hoping to upgrade to a 7600G and from there the Strix Point or Strix Halo, whichever will be the AM5 successor to the 7600G.
I'm using a system that peaks at 135W when stressed tested, less than 95W (whole system draw) if I disable turbo and lose zero performance, 52C peak temps and 32C when just browsing the web, and it's running all games that are actually good and aren't ESG/DEI slop like everything that would require actual videocards. And it's all in a 20x27x30 cube that fits on the shelf.

Get me a nvidia chip that can do that and I'll switch to nvidia.

Local AI models ruined me, I've been planning to upgrade for a long time and I'd be fine with a 3060 or the AMD equivalent because the newest games I play are getting a decade old by now, but I have so much fun with these small 7b models that I just really want to see how much better the bigger ones are.
There's no way to enjoy or at least have a reasonable experience with 70b models (at least really fast ~30b ones?) in a budget of 1.5k right?

>>102582819
I can't imagine a usecase for local AI models so you neither should you be able to

>>102582785
>burger power hour
>not even the east coast is home from work yet
this is peak euroshart hours

>>102582819
You'd want to get a 5090 since it comes with 32gb vram and it's gonna cost over 2k €

What if my motherboard doesn't support a certain M.2 SSD, can i still use it and will the power be throttled?

My motherboard: A320M Pro-M2 V2(MS-7B84)
The SSD: Samsung 990 PRO SSD 1 TB

>>102582866
euros are going to bed rn

>>102582938
Why would you buy such an expensive ssd if your mobo doesn't support it and you can't use the performance you're paying for?

>>102582947
tomorrow is saturday retard

>>102582938
>What if my motherboard doesn't support a certain M.2 SSD, can i still use it and will the power be throttled?

They are backwards compatible, all you'll do is get slower speeds, nothing else. There are no differences in power usage or anything.

>>102582958
he is probably using it because the 990 doesn't have a cheaper version, or if it does, it costs the same as the pro. also the only cheaper SSDs are qlc shit that run slower than a 20 year old 2.5" laptop drive.
or maybe he got it as a gift and he's trying to make use of it.

>>102583003
>nooo, don't go to sleep when you're tired, tomorrow is saturday so you have to shitpost on 4chan instead
what kinda cope is this

Ok cracka motherfuckers Im building a PC instead of getting a gaystation. The thing is I want to use my TV and soundbar as well as a monitor. I will only use TV and soundbar to play games. Can I make it so that when the PC turn on it wont wake up the TV and soundbar and only when I turn on the TV the screen and sound automatically switch from my monitor to the TV+soundbar setup?

I hope Im clear enough for yo white folks to understand.

>>102582804
this reads like intellectual masturbation

>>102579492
That's not a safe position to be in while the vehicle is moving.

>>102579562
Isn't Florida in the middle of a hurricane?

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>>102583051
>he is probably using it because the 990 doesn't have a cheaper version
there's 990 evo but the price difference isn't really that yuge to not consider the pro instead

>>102583106
Also it's not safe for her cervix while a BBC is moving inside her.

>>102583124
>letting a hurricane stop you from getting those deals

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>>102583124
FL is a state not a city.
Also, that was yesterday; it's today now.