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>>102646578
ok but you didn't factor in arrowlake p core has 4x larger L1 (32KB to 192KB), 50% larger L2 (2MB to 3MB) and ram speed running at 10000M/T which geekbench doesn't test.

>>102646690
Arrowlake L1 isn't the same as raptorlake L1
They renamed the old L1 to L0 and introduced a L1.5 (that's similar to L2) in arrowlake

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>>102646586
>Gaming: R5 5600, R7 7800X3D
Considering pricing, the R5 7600 is one of the best options currently. The R7 is ridiculously overpriced and the R5 5600 has no upgrade path

>>102646704
>R5 7600
you didn't factor in motherboard and ram. ddr4 is half the price of ddr5

>>102646708
I'm well aware of platform cost.
You pay maybe an extra $100 against the cost of a $1500 build for AM5

>>102646704
No point of buying am5 if amd is just going to keep releasing zen4 refresh. Just buy once and use it for 8 years.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dk2tVW

Should I upgrade from my current set up? Mainly playing games like CS2 and Valorant with the occasional AAA title (FF16 most recent). I've got a main ultrawide monitor (3440x1440 165hz) and a 1920x1080 240hz monitor I use for fps games. If I upgrade I'm looking at an either 360hz or 500hz monitor to become the primary fps one (leaving the old one to be a 3rd used for general stuff.)

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is a 5 7600x good enough for game dev, 3d modelling with blender, photoshop, rendering animations etc or should I go for the coveted yet absurdly expensive 7800x3d?

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>>102646801
Honestly for your use case, those specs still look alright. How's your RAM utilization? 16GB is a little light nowadays with 32GB as the normal recommended amount, but if you aren't nearing 100% at load then it's fine.

About the only major upgrade you might consider inside your PC might be a 5700X3D off AliExpress which would bring your 1% lows from ~88 to somewhere around 115-120 FPS.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-9-9950x/21.html
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256807544364478.html
They were going for ~$135 but went up to $160 recently.

In all seriousness if it were me, the only thing I would upgrade that would be a night-and-day difference for gaming, video, comics, and other uses would be an OLED monitor. Forget 360/500Hz LCDs, instant pixel response times and input lag will more than improve your motion performance/clarity instead with the added bonus that the speed isn't impacted by your average framerate even with VRR. Also the perfect colors and contrast really make the entire experience more enjoyable and immersive (particularly in a bright title like Valorant). They start at $550 now:
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/monitor/#P=7,9&sort=price&page=1
Then continue using your 1080p & 1440p UW LCDs for normal browsing/desktop work.

>>102646801
run those ballistix sticks at 3600 18-19-19 (they will do 3600 16-19-16 if you give them more voltage, 1.45-1.55 V)
big gains on ryzen 3000 with faster infinity fabric

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>>102646908
>is a 5 7600x good enough for game dev, 3d modelling with blender, photoshop, rendering animations etc or should I go for the coveted yet absurdly expensive 7800x3d?
For productivity value, the 12600KF is either equal or significantly faster than the 7600(X) in performance while being roughly 55-60$ cheaper.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Tk8bt6/intel-core-i5-12600kf-37-ghz-6-core-processor-bx8071512600kf
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-9-9950x/9.html

>>102646995
nta but I didnt think the difference with the 7900 and 7900x was that big

>>102646944
>>102646989

You know, the monitor suggestion is great and I'll be getting one of those no matter what. It's a little funny but both of your suggestions are so grounded compared to the upgrade I'd chalked up I'm almost stunned - it's given me a lot of food for thought.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/v867cH

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>>102647030
They're the same chip just with the non-X part power limited by default to 65W instead of 170W TDP.
Once you enable PBO they are identical. Here's the same benchmark from the earlier launch review of the non-X 7900:
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-9-7900/5.html
Artificial segmentation. Artificial segmentation as far as the eye can see.

>>102647069
lmao ok usually when people ask if it's worth it to upgrade they're asking if new parts are a worthwhile upgrade from a price/performance perspective
if you have no problem spending that money on a whole new setup right now then go for it

>>102646761
Definitely true that there's no guarantee of a worthwhile upgrade from an R5 7600.
But it is substantially better than an R5 5600, and as I said, it's a good intermediate step before the overpriced 7800X3D. The 7600 can support any GPU for general gaming, but the R5 5600 is limited to maybe a 4070 Super

>buy once
An R5 5600 is definitely a good choice for poorfags. It'll let them skip AM5 entirely

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ahaha yeah....zen doa.......

Recently, I have been experiencing some weird boot delays. When I turn my PC on, the fans start spinning, but it takes like 10 seconds before the lights go on and the monitor gets a signal. Does anyone know what could be the cause of this? I just built this PC like 3 months ago, so I'm pretty worried.

>>102647192
Living the am5 life

>>102647192
ram training

Do any of you guys play ck3 or other processor heavy paradox games? I'm planning on getting a new pc soon and I'd like to be able to play a full game of ck3 without lag. What kind of possessor would you guys recommend? I've seen people say they've been able to play the game without lag with a 5900X, is that a good processor?

>>102647173
We ain't getting faster than Zen 4/14th Gen. Are we?

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usecase?

>>102647447
Imagine the jewry CPU motherfuckurers will come up with once we truly get to the end of the silicon tech tree.

If my monitor doesnt support 4K or 2K, should I really bother with getting GPU that can do 4K/2K???

>>102647551
GPU output resolutions are basically arbitrary and not actually a fixed thing as it is just down to a matter of throughput.

Hello Radeonfriends have any of you tried AFMF2 is the newest driver patch 24.9.1?
I have found it to be quite good, in cyberpunk it is better than the built in frame gen that was added to it recently and you don't have to use fsr upscaling so XESS 1.3 ultra quality + AFMF2 is possible and it looks great, also tried RDR2 and Alan wake 2 and the results for both of those was also great input latency was acceptable for a single player experience.

>>102647551
If you want really high FPS all the time than you can get a higher end card for a lower resolution e.x 4070ti at 1080p is overkill but guaranteed high fps in 99% of games

>>102647551
The main benefits of having more card than your monitor needs are longevity and image treatment (DLDSR, DLAA, SSAA, etc.). Up to you if those are worth the price of entry.

>>102646586
Bocchi

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>Expanded API Support
>AFMF 2 can now be enabled for any >OpenGLNEW, VulkanNEW, DirectX® 11, and >DirectX® 12 titles.
>Radeon™ Chill Interoperability
>AFMF 2 now supports Radeon™ Chill, >providing a low-latency FPS capping option.
finally. I tried the thing on heavy RTX games, it's glorious, I didn't expect it to work so well and look so clean.

>>102648006
For extra fun if you use api wrappers like DXVK and DGvoodoo2 you can apply it to even moar games. Dead handy for older titles that are locked to 60fps (like say...doom 3).

>>102648006
Pretty bad game to test with, original TW3 looks better than the awful hackjob remaster they threw together in a week.

>>102648038
that's the point, it runs badly with RT
the only thing worth it to test would be 2077 PT

>>102648006
Looks amazing. PC specs? Are you using mods?

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Anyway to stop this from getting bigger?
LCD monitor got knocked over, caught it before impact. My grip caused LCD to burst it seems.
Picrel is bottom of monitor, US quarter sized spot.

>>102648095
layers delaminated, it's not fixable, due to temperature differences it will likely grow in time

>>102648093
7900xt/7700x, no mods

>>102646586
at 1080p would you guys go for a 3060 12gb or 7600xt?

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>>102646586
AMD drivers still have lots of issues with shader cache slow-downs and stutters.

>>102648234
just pre compile the shader cache

do you periodically re-paste your GPUs? is it even needed?

>>102648234
>tom's "stop kvetching and just buy it" hardware

>>102648259
Unless it is actively reaching temps it would not normally (allowing for any change in ambient temps) then there is no reason to repaste the gpu. Protip: dust out your heatsink.

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>>102648151
3060
AMD drivers are a hot mess... AGAIN.

>>102648293
>AMD drivers are a hot mess
it's been like that since forever. I worked in gamedev in 2005 and still remember our engine devs shitting all over ATI drivers.

>>102646704
half power consumption for -3% performance
wtf

>>102648234
I dunno bro werks on my machine

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>>102648259
I did on a card I had for two years the paste was all dried up and was operating at around 84C. after a repaste temps were around 72-75C

>>102648151
7600xt makes more sense, especially now with AFMF2

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows11

Current release: Windows 11 2024 Update l Version 24H2

Daily reminder you must use the latest version of Winblows 11 if you use a modern CPU because Micro$ucks doesn't backport CPU code improvements to older versions of Winblows

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don't know why I didn't notice this when buying the monitor some weeks back, but the audible buzzing on the power connector when the screen is on is driving me INSANE. It's quiet but holy shit I regret spending money on this, even though it works fine.

Do all monitors these days have audible electrical noise around their plug or is this just an AOC niggle?

>a fix from a performance regression from W10 isn't backported into W10
Fuck off shill.

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whats the point of ddr5 8000MHz when it will run worse than 6000MHz on AMD?

>>102648417
this is just a fault with the unit, bad cable or bad port for the cable

>>102648417
For it being audible when you are sitting in front of the screen that has got to be LOUD as the screen would block a lot of noise.

>>102648427
it might run better on Intel but for AMD just stick to DDR5 6000MHz CL30

>turn on game
>CPU starts to throttle after a while (5950x; 90C)
>now idles at 50C, which is terrible for my cooler (be quiet! Dark Rock 4 Pro)
everything was fine until yesterday. how can shit like that happen overnight? fans are spinning, radiator seems to be making tight contact.
welp, I guess nothing to do but repaste and clean now, but I never saw such dramatic change in thermals for seemingly no reason.

>>102648427
It doesn't always run worse - it depends on use case but for most it isn't worth the effort.

>>102648427
I assume it's for some specific applications that are more bandwidth sensitive than latency sensitive (server stuff maybe?) and also future proofing by RAM makers for when newer AMD architectures can finally use it in a 1:1 ratio after they update the Infinity Fabric possibly in Zen 6.

>>102648444
maybe some windows fuckery update or something applied a more aggressive power profile for the CPU?

>>102648444
I was going to suggest >>102648452 check your BIOS voltages.

>>102648417
>>102648435
I just checked it further, the almost coil-whine like sound stops if I set the refresh rate in Windows to 144 Hz as opposed to 239.64 Hz. It reminds me of this old AC transformer I used for American air purifier in Europe, where it would buzz after a while of use. Monitor is an AOC 24G2ZE/BK.

Should I try to take this unit back to the retailer or to the service center? I know its well past 14 days but still.

>>102648458
>Should I try to take this unit back to the retailer or to the service center? I know its well past 14 days but still.
If it's begging you give it a shot, all they can say is "Nah, sorry". I'd find it unacceptable to be kneecapped almost half the refresh rate just to not have an annoying buzzing sound.

>>102648452
>>102648458
haven't thought of that, I'll do some more digging. thanks bros.

>>102648458
Also have you tried CRU to set something like 238Hz or so racheting down lower in increments to see if there's a higher panel driving level where the coil while cuts out?

https://customresolutionutility.net/

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>>102648427

Thinking of buying Lancool II Mesh Performance (the non-RGB one with 140x2 fans). Seems good all around, but is there any reason I might want to reconsider?

>>102648479
I could go to the MediaExpert I bought it at right now to be honest and ask about service and look into the manufacturer online, might do that right now.

>>102648491
The thing I also find interesting is that the brightness does not seem to affect the whine/buzz. I will try this.

>>102648579
Nah, it's a decent case with good airflow. If it suits your needs and you like the look of it then it's a safe buy.

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>>102648234
>>102648265

hmmmmmm why would the date have been left out and a misleading screenshot be used instead? It's still only wednesday, at least wait for the weekend to shill

>>102648387
Man, turing chips are huge

>>102648579
What >>102648688 said.

>>102648755
Same. Airflow sucks on it too so it heats up more than a regular case.

Will the prices of 4070s and ti's drop this Jan assuming the 50 series are out?

Is there any indication that the B650/X670 boards will be phased out in favour of the X870s?

>>102648783
LOL!

>>102648783
Nvidia won't do any official price drops, retailers will very slightly lower the price to clear stock until they're gone.

>>102648688
>>102648751
Cool, thanks. Just wanted to make absolutely sure I'm not missing anything.

>>102648742
I am still amazed at how large the die on the 2080ti was

>>102648755
>>102648772
What I don't is where have all the cases with decent storage gone? The most many of them have these days is 4x 3.5" drive bays, are they serious?

Is it normal that PC nowadays take longer to boot? I got a new pc and when i press the start button all fans start spinning extremely fast for like 15-20s, meanwhile literally nothing happens on the monitor. Only after that time the fans slow down and the Mainboard logo appears and it boots up normally. With my old PC from 2015 which i used for all those years I would press the button and the fans would spin at normal speed and the MB logo appeared after like 3s. The new pc works fine so far but idk it just feels very weird that the fans spin so fast and literally nothing happens for 20s.

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I took my list to a local store just to check if some of the components were cheaper there and the guy told me my build has "data transfer and cooling problems". Then he gave me a similar build and the major differences are the Windforce GPU instead of the Eagle, the Cooler Master Hyper 212 instead of the Phantom Spirit and a Cooler Master MWE 850 V2 for the PSU. I'm pretty sure I'll be fine with a 750w PSU and for what I've read online, the other components are worse than the ones I've picked. Was the guy just taking the piss or is there something I'm missing?

>>102648922
everyone uses ssds now-a-days, sis.
if you want 3.5" HDD bays then get a rack server or something. most cases still support 2-4 3.5" HDDs

>>102648922
>The most many of them have these days is 4x 3.5"
3-4 is actually pretty rare now, most cases released in the last couple years have 0-2.

>>102648931
They want to sell you items in their store. Of course they're going to try to convince you to buy their shit.
That build is fine. While Windforce is better than Eagle I doubt you'll run into "data transfer problems".

>>102648926
Do you have lots of ram or ram that is clocked very fast/tight timings?

First time buyers tempted to consider the RX 7700/7800 XT by AMD’s army of Advanced Marketing scammers (youtube, reddit, twitter, forums etc.) should be aware that AMD have a history of releasing benchmark busting, heavily marketed, sub standard products. Although Nvidia’s 4070 only offers comparable performance, it has a broader feature set (RT/DLSS 3.0) and offers far better game compatibility (drivers). PC gamers looking to join AMD’s “2%” GPU club (Steam stats: 5000/6000/7000 series combined mkt share) need to work on their critical thinking skills: Influencers (posing as reviewers) are paid handsomely to scam users into buying inferior products. Experienced gamers know all too well that high average fps are worthless when they are accompanied with stutters, random crashes, excessive noise and a limited feature set. [Sep '23 GPUPro]

>>102648981
Stop quoting the /g/ bible.

Do I upgrade from rx 6600 now or wait? If upgrade now do I go for AMD again or get a 4070 super?

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>>102648981
>Userbenchmark

>>102648931
your build looks good, that guy was talking niggrish

>>102648981
When the 9000X3D variants launch (expected in early 2025) gamers who play cache sensitive games such as SoTTR or Factorio with a 4090 and don’t mind frame drops, may find value in the 9800X3D. Meanwhile, Intel’s 12th and 13th gen CPUs continue to offer the best value for money in today’s market. Furthermore, Intel is scheduled to launch Arrow-Lake (est. +10% performance vs 14th gen) and Lunar-Lake (snapdragon competitive x86 battery life) this year, but they face serious challenges due to reliance on marketers who are mostly funded by AMD. Even if Arrow and Lunar Lake deliver stellar performance, without significant improvements in social media marketing: forums, reddit, youtube etc., Intel now face the very real risk of bankruptcy (third worst-performing S&P500 stock from Jan to Aug 2024). [Aug '24 CPUPro]

>>102648994
>Do I upgrade
The answer to this question is ALWAYS another question: Are you unhappy with your current performance?

>>102648994
I'm keeping my 6600 as I upgrade, just got a 1200W PSU because I know I'll be getting a better GPU in a year or two.

>>102648958
Dont think so. 32GB DDR5 6000 CL30. I picked the parts and let the pc be built and tested b4 being shipped to me. I cant imagine they did any overclocking.
The one single thing i changed yesterday in the bios was memory context restore from Auto to disabled.

I forgot to add the 15-20s extremely fast spinning fans during boot up situation was like every ~20 boot ups or so. The other times it was much faster. That was also concerning to me that it (without a pattern) just randomly takes sometimes so much longer to start.

>>102648994
RDNA 4 is expected Q1 of 2025 if you are happy to wait I would say get that, if you need more perf right now then get a 4070 super

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very important PC building ingredient right here

>>102649029
Sounds just like the usual lmao ram training. Are you on the latest agesa?

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What am I in for?

>>102649076
You get less PCIe lanes than on the X670E, AND some of these PCIe lanes are occupied by the USB4 boondoggle.

>>102649046
Idk what that is to be honest. If its like the latest update for the MB i only saw it had a recent one from april and i bought the pc in may so it should be fine i think. But if you say its justthe usual ram training it is nothing to worry about yeah? Like i said the pc works completely fine so far but this was the only thing that seemed really strange to me

>>102647510
Baskin Robbins
>>102649076
4 dimm slots kek

>>102649105
>so it should be fine i think.
It might not be the latest bios - that you'd have to check.

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>>102649093
This. The X870/E chipsets are one of the most blatant scams yet. Say what you will about Intel swapping sockets faster than King Henry VIII swapped wives, I don't think they've ever performed the kind of chipset lane regression and gaslighting AMD is trying to pull here. There are even B650/E boards out there now with USB4 if you want that.

>>102649124
I didnt update nor even enter the bios on my old pc a single time which i used for those 9y and it worked until the end. Do you really always need the absolute latest updates nowadays? Like i said if i remember correctly it has an update from april this year so pretty new i would say. I hate to update shit when its working fine so if you say the ram training thing every 20 or so boot ups is not a bad thing then im fine with it

I was gonna swap to a 7900 GRE to save some cash but ima stick with my 7900XTX until next year

>>102649093
Yeah, I think it'll be enough for me. Kind of wish it came in black but I got a case with no windows so it won't matter.

>>102649145
I know it's X870 but at $200 about the same price as many B650/X670 boards. I compared specs as thoroughly as possible and figured either would work, cost difference is minimal so I'd just go for the newer release.

Also wanted to go with ASRock this time around. I like my Asus Z170 mobo but I hear nothing good about them lately so avoided.

>>102648931
Iirc Eagle is a shitty budget GPU model, but I think windforce is one as well, just slightly less so
Hyper212 is worse and your PSU should be fine
He was likely recommending items they gave in stock to try and sell them and perhaps is forced to do so by his boss (you'd be surprised how many bosses force their employees to do certain annoying things like that, brother was a TV salesperson in a big electronics store for a while and was told to heavily recommend Samsung specifically, even if other options might have been more suited to the person's needs)

Wouldn't hold it against the guy too much but just don't go for hardware recommendations again

>>102649167
you should switch to nvidia
amd sucks

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>>102649238
>12GB VRAM

>>102649238
I dont need all the fancy bells and whistles, plus I dont have to worry about multiple programs starting up just so my GPU can be on undervolted settings. Ive owned a few withing this year and all I can say is nvidia is overpriced for what they offer.

>>102648951
>>102649197
>Windforce is better than Eagle
>Eagle is a shitty budget GPU model, but I think windforce is one as well, just slightly less so
I thought it was the other way around. I can actually save like 15€ with the Windforce. At least I got something from asking there.

>>102649322
Actually, forget about it. I can spend some more on the Gaming one, fuck it

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>>102649279
>Radeon drivers

>>102649322
Okay, after looking at it some more, both seem pretty much the same.
https://www.gigabyte.com/Graphics-Card/GV-N407SWF3OC-12GD/sp#sp
https://www.gigabyte.com/Graphics-Card/GV-N407SEAGLE-OC-12GD/sp#sp
Eagle now seems to have a higher core clock when OC. But only 35Mhz, or 0.9% better.
Both seem to support DisplayPort 1.4a and HDMI 2.1a now. So just get the cheaper one. But if you want a 0.9% increase while OC at max full load then get Eagle.

>>102649389
>>102649322
Huh, apparently I was wrong & windforce is meant to be extremely marginally worse, plus eagle has dual bios & windforce doesn't. While that's not frequently an advantage, it is sometimes and just for that safety of perhaps flashing it in the future it might be worth it.

It's hard to give full advice without knowing your local prices/where you're from, but in Germany at least, Gaming OC is better than both & is for some reason priced between the two (10€ more than windforce) so just grab that

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HELP! Brand new build just put together, when I clicked the power, the red CPU led turned on for a second and then switched to the red DRAM led and it stays like that. There is no display on the monitor. I tried all ram configs, one stick, cleared CMOS, updated BIOS to the newest one. What do I do now??

>>102649395
Never had this problem (I use arch btw)

>>102649475
Last time it happened to me, it was because the mobo was not seated properly and maybe shorting itself out on the case. It had some built in protection against that at least and refused to turn on.

>>102649470
>10€ more than windforce
It's 9€ more than Eagle here. Definetely going for it.

>>102649475
How long did you wait before panicking? First boot is always long when it needs to train memory. And would also sometimes need to reboot a couple of times.

how do you guys build your pc's? do you put in every part and turn it on?

>>102649518
How else am I supposed to do it?

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These are a complete gimmick right? I bought one because I'm a sucker for gimmicky accessories but I doubt it'll actually do anything.

>>102649518
I put mount CPU+cooler, install RAM, and hook up outside the case first to do a POST test, then once I'm sure no parts are DOA I start setting it up in the case. I have some spare power switches for this purpose.

>>102649584
For AM5 they are a gimmick just to stop the paste splooging down the sides. For lga1700 they stop your cpu bending like wood left in the rain.

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>>102649607
>paste
I don't even use paste!
Another gimmicky accessory I fell for... although it works fine and actually a little convenient over using paste.

>>102649518
I put them up my ass first to avoid interference.

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>>102649635
Then the bracket is literally just cosmetic if you're on AM5. That being said, I like the cosmetic of a CPU bracket.

>>102649635
Graphite pads aren't a gimmick in of themselves but they do have less of an application for desktop cpus. For laptops and gpus they are great.

>>102649509
I left it turned on for over an hour.
>>102649499
If my mobo shorted out, wouldn't it be unable to turn on at all?

>>102649733
I've used the IC graphite for years on my i7-6700K. Not the highest TDP, not overclocked. I get the same temps as with paste, and better, it never dries out or needs replacing. Put one on my GPU as well.

It seems to be less popular now, and there's other stuff on the market like thermal grizzly kryosheet looked interesting, but I stick with IC graphite because I've had success with it.

>>102649743
> If my mobo shorted out, wouldn't it be unable to turn on at all?
Ah yes, it wouldn't spin up fans or anything, just show some lights. Could be you got a bad stick of RAM, try them one at a time.

>>102649788
He said he tried that
>>102649475
How did you update bios if it didn't boot?
Regardless try to borrow a working stick of ram from someone to rule out both being broken.
If that doesn't work, sadly think it's time to return mobo

>>102649743
What RAM is it?

>>102646586
Uh guys
Maybe I'll switch to an AMD GPU for future purchases
These jews are getting out of control
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvL-Mplhog8

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Tfw I'll end up with another mid range Nvidia GPU that works best for 1080p
Bloatware and jewish practices are holding back my reason to go for 1440p

>>102649868
Mid range AMD always slaps the shit out of mid range Nvidia. Especially on Linux where AMD is always 25-30% faster than Nvidia equivalent on Windows.

>>102649805
I Q-flashed it with a USB (after I cleared CMOS)
Ill try to find a way to test.
>>102649819
Silicon Power DDR5 2x16gb 6000mhz cl30 white rgb, rgb turns on

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Is this good?

>>102647173
>>102647447
We literally have articles showing the 265k beating the 14900k AND 9900X, stop listening to doomer fag posts

>>102649868
Got a new pc months ago and still cant decide if i should get a new 24inch 1080p or 27inch 1440p monitor. 75% of the time I use it for browsing/watching yt or tv shows and then the rest for gaming, mostly older/indie games (most demanding game i play rn is cs2) so I will probably end up with 1080p too.

>>102649921
lol

>>102649921
Get RX 7700 XT / RX 7800 XT instead of 4060

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>>102649922
ur rite

>>102649921
7600x is a shit value CPU, a 7600 is just as fast for less money and comes with a cooler
stupidly overpriced cooler for that build
4060ti is NOT a 1440p card, especially not at 'high fps'.
shit tier RAM that is barely any cheaper than significantly faster RAM, also only 16GB in a new build is dumb.

>>102649921
>that
>1200 quid
lmao

>>102649921
bros... we're getting replaced by ai

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>>102649945
Looks gud
>y believe doom when I can believe in triumph

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Is there any way to search PSUs by their 5V rail?
It want to run 45 HDDs and that puts upwards of 20 amps on the 5V rail which is at the limit of even the 1200w PSU on my desktop.

Any units out there with 30A just to have some margin?

>>102649987
>multi-cope performance
who cares

>>102649931
if it was less demanding games then why not get a 1440p?

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>>102649999
Here’s ur single core gain bro
>11%

>>102649999
multi-core has been AMD's selling point last time I checked, not counting the x3d

>>102649921
>7600x
unless the prices is basically equivalent, get 7600 & OC it yourself
>4060ti
should be fine
>16gb of ram
not enough, get 32gb 6000 CL30
>nhd15
HORRIBLY overkill, get thermalright peerless assassin or phantom spirit for like half the price or less
>meshify
I like it, but cases are personal preference, pick one you like
>SSD
I'd recommend 2tb because it's not much more money and is just a huge QOL for not having to clean shit up as much
>RM750x
good wattage & reliable.

>>102650016
I also forgot to say im limited to like a ~150€ budget and its hard to find a decent 27'' 1440p monitor for that. But yeah youre right since i do not really play ultra demanding games 1440p would make more sense

>>102650021
Honestly I'd take it after the giant nothing that was Zen 5.

>>102650021
Nice ADHD glasses bro

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based nvidia giving us less for more money

why do I hear a voice telling me not to buy a 7900 GRE

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I have a corsair RM650X PSU _without_ cables. A full set looks like it'll cost around 40+USD. Do you think the rm650x is still worth it to buy new cables or am I better off just putting the money towards a new gold PSU altogether? I don't care about 3.0, everything that uses it is way outside my financial range.

https://www.techpowerup.com/327243/crucial-discovers-flaw-in-amd-x670e-motherboards-gen-5-nvme-slots-drop-to-gen-1-speeds-cause-boot-issues

AYYMDEAD IS FINISHED & BANKRUPT

>>102650143
>why do I hear a voice telling me not to buy a 7900 GRE
Honestly if the 8800XT doesn't launch this month, I'd buy it during Black Friday.

>>102650165
The RMx line from Corsair has a 10-Year warranty and even the cheapest new Gold/Modular Unit starts at $60 meaning a new bundle of cables is your least cost option. How did wind up with the main unit sans cables anyway?

>>102650108
AYYMDEADUNBOX is retarded, you can't compare CUDA cores between generations when the architectures are different

This is the same retarded Ausfailians that suggested retards to buy Pascal instead of Turing with mesh shaders support

>>102650212
You think it's still competitive compared to modern gold psus?
Someone was tossing an antec1200 case, the psu was still in it, but no cables.

>the ARGB version of the Phantom Spirit 120 SE is 2€ cheaper than the one without leds
Funny that

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>>102649000
>>Userbenchmark

>>102650315
LETS DEFEAT REDDIT TOGETHER!

>>102650143
Buy it now you retard. It's a limited release of a worlds first chiplet arch. Once they sell out it's gone forever like how 5800x3ds are going up in price.

>>102650315
>spiel
wtf, I love Userbenchmarks now

not telling people why chrome sucks.

>not being smart enough to figure it out

>>102650315
>Our benchmarks go against all other benchmarks
>Surely this is because of marketers and not because we're wrong
Lole...

>>102650229
They're not comparing between gens. They're comparing each model on a generation to the flagship and how they stack up. Then they compare the difference between those models in each gen between gens

>>102650040
Bulldozer was 12 years ago.

Is it worth spending 90€ more on the 7700x instead of the 7600x?

>>102650315
I will now use userbenchmark

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rate and hate, already got the storage and a 750W seasonic

>>102650636
You can tell its an amd fan build

>>102650636
Yep pretty good, nice price on the GRE for euro

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>>102646586
I don't know a whole lot about PCs, so bear with me here.
My PC is great, runs fine, but there's a fan at the top of the case that keeps stopping and starting, and when it DOES start and run, it makes an awful grinding, rattling sound. Is it time to replace it?

>>102650108
Now show the graph of the cost of a 300mm wafer from tsmc during this time period.

>>102650636
I don't see the point of going for high end and cards. They excel at performance per dollar in the budget tier but if you're building a pc that high end you're likely using an expensive monitor and will need dlss to make the most of it

>>102650636
Seems fine to me. Board doesn't have the greatest VRM but it's good enough for just about anything that isn't a 7950X at full throttle
make sure the ram is the EXPO variant since corsair has both SKUs
and grab a 120mm fan to put at the back of the Focus 2 if you don't have one lying around or can't scavenge one from a previous case

>>102650723
Try changing the fan curve first

>>102650723
sounds like a broken fan or something caught in the fan blades/fan hub

>>102650872
>make sure the ram is the EXPO variant
oh fuck good catch

>>102650874
Tried it in the bios and with some Gigabyte program fan/rgb program. Didn't seem to work.
>>102650885
I've looked, can't seem to see/find anything.
If worse comes to worst, I'll just buy a new fan.

>>102650911
To be fair it's like a 1% difference. Worth paying a buck or two for it but if it's €20 then stick to XMP (or find a cheaper EXPO kit).

I bought working old 950w psu from pc shop near me for dirt cheap. it only has 1 6 pin pcie connector is there anything I can do with this ?

7700 xt is currently £310 in the UK
For comparison the 4060ti is minimum £345 and 7800xt is £450+
I think it's a good price for 7700xt, what do you reckon

>>102650992
The more you spend, the more you save.

>>102650976
Did you check if it's pwm and plugged into an appropriate spot on mobo? If it's cheap shit it might just be on/off in which case I'd say just buy some fan

>>102650992
If you'll use RT/framegen/dlss get 4060ti instead, otherwise grab the 7700xt

>>102650839
As a consumer I don't give a fuck - that is an AMD/Nvidia/Intel problem.

>>102651097
Based

>>102650108
Whatever the market will bear.
And you will bear it like the consumer whore you are.

>>102650108
3080 was really good

>>102650992
7700xt for that price is great also now that AFMF2 is out you can pretty much use frame gen in any game you want

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>>102650467
>Lole...
truth isn't a popularity contest

7800X3D or wait for 9800X3D? I want to pair it with a 7700 XT.

>>102651360
7600 is enough

Opinions on AK620 vs Phantom Spirit for cooling an AMD CPU?
The latter is actually more expensive in my cunt.

>>102651360
Zen 5 is a wet fart generation, feel free to skip

>>102646995
But in this case, specially going two generations back with intel. Wouldn't be a better investment to go with a platform that will allow him to upgrade for the forseeable future?

Instead of having to change motherboard and possibly ram next time he wants to upgrade?

>>102651360
>7700 XT
No need for an X3D unless you play 90% autism sims.
In isolation, right now I'd wait either way. The 7800X3D is OOS at the moment - might be EoL in anticipation of the 9800X3D launch.

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>>102649035
Sleeve screws + rubber washers are better.

>>102651360
desu a 7700x would be fine for your use case

3 more weeks until Arrow Lake saves Moore's Law.
Trust the plan.
We're all gonna make it.

>>102651613
next week actually

>>102651634
Next week is just the parentboard gender reveal.

>840 yuros zotac 4070 ti super

do I do it

GOAT combo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36Av5pvgYX0

>>102648234
Works mighty fine on my Linux and Windows machine.

>>102647088
>>102646995
>>102646944
>>102646704
Are any of these benchmarks after the Ryzen 9000 fixes?

Is 540$/490eur a good deal for a 3090?

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I'm getting a X870 motherboard for my Ryzen 9900X.
And I noticed only MSI is giving us the option to disable USB 4.0 (don't see any use for it), to get more PCIe 5.0 lanes.
I think this is fucking genius.

I'm inclined to buy the MSI MAG X870 TOMAHAWK. Any reason why I shouldn't?

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Well, here's goes nothing, Hopefully nothing is DOA.

>>102646704
Wouldn't 5700x3d be better

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>>102648981
> Experienced gamers know all too well that high average fps are worthless when they are accompanied with stutters
Actually true

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>>102646704
>[current year] top of the line CPU is barely a x2 improvement over a 5 year old ultrapoverty entry level CPU
why even bother?

>>102652290
unironically, do you need more?

>>102652300
My performance metric for gaming isn't FPS, but maximum-dwarfcount-before-FPS-death, so yes.

>>102652339
Respectable, good day sir

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best rig I could get for 450$?
this is for a project mind you, not real life

>>102652710
buying a second hand full pc or a second hand piece of shit & slam in a separate second hand psu

>>102650636
doesn't ryzen 9800X3D release at the end of this month?
why not wait for it considering 7800X3D went up 20-25% in price

>>102646586
Hey guys, I need non crazy opinions:

I have a budget of around 1200 but live in latam where I have to eat importation costs. So parts that would normally fit the budget may not in my case. I want to gayme in 1080, mid to high settings are ok and I want to be able to play future releases for the foreseeable future. I also do casual video editing but currently applying for a full time video editing position (in porn) which would put significant strain on the pc (and my dick). I might have to fly with these components at some point in the next couple of years. Photo editing and some image manipulation is also a consideration.

Here's the list I currently have in mind:

-GPU: 7600XT 16gb (Cheaper alternative is 4060 8gb)

-MOBO: ASUS b650m-a II or some Assrock option

-CPU: AMD 7 7700X from a cheap vendor (7 7700 comes with a stock cooler but it would still be cheaper to get a the 7700X with a cooler) Alternative 5 7600X or maybe intel i713700KF?

-RAM: 32gb Tforce Vulcan 6k mhz (its proving very hard to find cheap RAM, alternative is lexar or crucial at 5600mhz for a few bucks less) Dual sticks. I could get single 32gb stick for cheaper. Should I?

Here I am at the USD1144 mark and still need a SSD, a CPU cooler and PSU (I will be offered a XPG 750w Bronze. I can also get a Corsair CV650 650 watts, also bronze. Even cheaper for a thermaltake 750 watts White.

I know nvidia is supposed to play better with Premiere and it would save me around 100 USD, but the 4060 seems too crappy for gaming (and future releases) and the 4060ti and 4070 completely blow the budget. Is it better to get a slightly stronger 16gb Asrock AMD card over what feels like a very basic 4060 8gb MSI Ventus?

I currently edit on an old Nvidia 960m, 4gb laptop card and 2 min videos export in 3-4 minutes at 1080p. Can't imagine my performance will be THAT shit with full fledged AMD card and a beefy processor.

I appreciate any real input. I'll probably be building this bitch next weekend.

>>102652731
stupid
I said this is for a hypothetical. I need a 450$ rig for a project

>>102652750
I don't know what the fuck that means
If the goal is to get the best pc for the money that's the answer
>>102652746
>I have a budget of around 1200 but live in latam where I have to eat importation costs.
Are there any non importation cost places to look at pricewise?
If not, are importation costs static from US or is it different based on the amount per item or whatever
>7600XT
Bait, get 7600 instead, the extra vram doesn't do much on a card that "weak"

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HELP v2.0
I tried all ram configs, flashed BIOS to newest, cleared CMOS, even reset the CMOS battery, waited an hour for mem training, reseated my CPU, removed GPU, replugged PSU cables....The DRAM light is still on and it won't give display(even on integrated graphics) or boot. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>102652746
>7700X
Meh, either just get a 7600, or switch to intel 12700kf if you feel like extra cores will help with productivity tasks.

>finally pulled the trigger
>can't shake the thought of some components being DOA off my head
It's going to be a long week

>>102652842
At this point I have to assume it's the case that either ram slots on your mobo are fucked, some connection to the ram is fucked or both your ram sticks are fucked
Sucks but you're the unlucky 0.1%
I'm praying for you that it's the ram sticks

>>102652862
scariest part is pressing the power button

>>102646586
>gpu
>10 rtx
>2 amd
why are you guys so butthurt about amd?

>>102652895
I have nothing to do with OP & I run AMD+AMD but I agree that the only AMD cards worth buying new nowadays are 6600(xt), 7600 & 7700xt
If you're spending more than that on a GPU, you're likely using RT/DLSS/Framegen

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>>102652842
did you put CPU in right?
there should be small arrow to guide you

>>102652790
>Are there any non importation cost places to look at pricewise?
>If not, are importation costs static from US or is it different based on the amount per item or whatever
I wouldn't know the details, but any legit place will have paid importation taxes. You can avoid them if you bring a single item for personal use but I'm not flying to the US soon and my girlfriend will fly on november to my country. I can't wait that long.

I can order from amazon but items over 200 are often stopped in customs and taxed. So I'd have to wait longer, risk still paying tax and maybe even losing my money or item alltogether... not counting shipping costs.

If you tell me the extra AMD VRAM is not really a selling point then I'll go for the 4060. Cause to me it's the only real thing beating the compatibility of the Nvidia cards.

But let's see if other anons have something else to add.

>>102652886
>forgets to turn on the psu switch
>panic for no reason
Every time

>>102653003
I meant more like stores you'd order from near you to check prices for you, or is that what you meant by importation costs & you're not ordering from US yourself and paying the importation costs

>>102653028
That's not the scary one for me, the scary one is when shit lights up & fans start spinning and you just have to wait for a few minutes and hope good shit happens

should i buy:

G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series (Intel XMP) DDR4 RAM 32GB (2x16GB) 3600MT/s CL18-22-22-42 1.35V Desktop Computer Memory UDIMM - Black (F4-3600C18D-32GVK)

$56.99

or

TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan Z DDR4 32GB Kit (2x16GB) 3600MHz (PC4-28800) CL18 Desktop Memory Module Ram Black TLZBD432G3600HC18JDC01

$52.99


i have a ryzen 5 3600 with 16gb of ram but i'm getting low ram errors and game crashes cus i'm running 2 instances of world of warcraft.

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>>102648427
it doesn't run worse, you can run the IF synced like ryzen 5000 (4000 MCLK, 2000 UCLK, 2000 FCLK)
gains are still extremely minimal of course

>>102653089
same shit
literally the exact same timings (18-22-22-42)
get the cheaper kit

>>102653123
k ty

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unless space marine pvp takes off i'm going to have almost no reason to get a new system.

10700f utilised at 60-70%, 3070rtx at 100% for space marine 2 at 1440.

want to learn how to overclock my ram

VMAXW

CMK32GX4M2Z3600C18

any help?

probably e die

>>102653203
>want to learn how to overclock my ram
https://github.com/integralfx/MemTestHelper/blob/oc-guide/DDR4%20OC%20Guide.md
>CMK32GX4M2Z3600C18
first step is to identify the ICs
https://github.com/integralfx/MemTestHelper/blob/oc-guide/DDR4%20OC%20Guide.md#corsair-version-number
probably: hynix DJR, 8gbit micron rev E or 16gbit micron rev B

27" or 24"? Which is better for a 1080p monitor? Both assus

>>102652874
God help me, we'll see tomorrow.
>>102652964
LEARN TO REEEEEEEEEEEAD

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So why haven't we come up with a better CPU mounting solution in 30 years? Everything else is fairly durable.

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>>102646586
I just realized... like a fat or ugly woman might buy makeup to cake on her face for an instantaneous "looks boost", I want to upgrade my computers for an instantaneous "potential-to-do-work boost".

Don't get me wrong, I am a quite productive outside of work, but it's true. We are human, and sometime we delude ourselves.

Is LG going to release an LG-branded 1440p monitor with the Black IPS panel? So far they seem to only be in UltraSharps.

>>102653255
if you care about pixel density then don't get a 27" 1080p. i had one and seeing jagged graphics and text bothered me so much i went and got a 27" 1440p to replace it.

but if you don't look for that kind of stuff or you sit really far from the screen and the rest of the specs and quality is the same then i'd get the bigger one.

>>102651070
RT on 4060ti? Unless you play in 720p this card doesn't support RT, don't be fooled by marketing statements.

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Brehs, I'm having a bit of buyer's remorse. I boughted 7900x because it had a better passmark than 5950x. 7950x is considerably better for not that much more monies. Why did you not tell me to get 7950x?

>>102646995
> Ryzen 5 7600: 172.0 s
> Ryzen 5 7600x: 181.5 s
Really makes you think...

>>102652750
>>102652710
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mx9qKX

>>102653448
yeah unless specifically mentioned benchmarks usually don't OC cpus so non X variants get fucked on the actual performance they'd get

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>>102653455
What the fuck is that PSU? Do you want a house fire? Why do you need 650w for that garbage? Can you not go with some 450w?

>>102653337
Upscales, to up the image from 1080p to 1440p, work better with these screens, 27 and 24? And are upscalers even worth at that price/spec range?

>>102653203
>space marine pvp
is it fun?

>1080p
>23.6''
>60Hz
Let me guess, you need more

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>>102653504
Apevia prestige is in the C tier on Cultists.
It's the cheapest compatible non "Replace immediately" or "Avoid" tier

Which PSU would you get?

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>>102653531
>i5-6500
>GTX 1060 6GB
>1080p
>23.8''
>60Hz
I... need more...

>>102653517
it's literally the best.

if you like playing scissors paper rock
youll love, ah watever

fucking ram overclocking is not easy

>>102653564
No you don't

Is there any actual reason to believe the 9800X3D is coming out any time soon?

I have an intel i5-8400, what types of processors can fit into that socket? I'm trying to upgrade my pc on a budget and I need a lot of L3 cache.

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what's the most notable upgrade from the 5080 over the 4080S from the leaked specs? I don't know anything about memory buses and all that, I just want to know if I waitfag (tm) or not

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>>102653564
>7800x3d
>4090
>480p
>60Hz
It's gaming time.

>>102653753
50 gen is a skip.

>>102653753
the msrp

>>102653839
that would make 50 gen the 3rd skip in a row

Any news on the release date of the 5070?

>>102654040
june 2025

>>102654040
oct 25

>>102653867
it's going to be cheaper? just like gasoline?

retarded question but would i even benefit much from a 27'' 1440p monitor opposed to a 24'' 1080p one when i mainly browse and watch youtube/streams/movies which mostly have 1080p max in the settings? (and when i play vidya its mostly indies or 2010-2020 games)

videos movies. yes

you aren't so hawkeyed to notice the pixelation at that point

>>102654111
Its le current thing, gramp

>>102654111
You get a little more real estate.
You also get slightly better pixel density, which is a double-edged sword for old games (or pixelshit) since often their UI was made for lower resolutions and doesn't offer scaling so it will look too small on high res screens.

>>102654180
>>102654186
>>102654196
I see. But the improvement for videos/movies wouldnt be as big as it would be for gaming right? I kinda have a tight budget and since im doing more of the video watching than gaming i would probably lean towards a good 14'' 1080p monitor instead of a very cheap 1440p 27''.

>>102654297
24''*

>>102654109
no anon the msrp will be graded up to new eye watering heights
enjoy your upgrade t. leather coat man

>>102654109
You'll need to wait for the RTX 5080 Super Saver for that.

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>>102654418
honestly since it's also 16gb vram is there no way that it could ever be cheaper? They need a selling point other than smeary AI frames

>>102654040
March 2025, screencap this

>>102653991
20 and 30 maybe. 40 is a skip if you don't have a good gpu now. 50 is a skip if you have 40

>>102654040
After battlemage

>>102649475
replace your motherboard. it's dead. happened to me twice.

>>102653032
I see what you meant. No, I can find all components locally. In fact I'm choosing them based on availability and budget.

I could import myself from the US and could avoid taxes... Or not. This route is too much of a hassle in my opinion.

My question is more about the quality and compatibility of what I chose and whether or not I could make better decisions. The PSU in particular freaks me out.

>>102654555
The last time shit got cheaper was literally during Maxwell, when half of this thread hadn't even been born yet.

>>102654779
>My question is more about the quality and compatibility of what I chose and whether or not I could make better decisions.
To help you with that, we need to see the options & prices
You can't give recommendations without seeing prices

How good of a processor cooler should I get for an i7-8700K? I currently have Intel E97379-003 cooler but it looks way smaller than the other ones I'm seeing online, but I'm a bit worried the bigger ones wont fit.

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>>102654674
The next gen is almost always a skip if you have something from the previous gen. This isn't shocking at all. You'd have to go back almost two decades to find a period when this wasn't true. I went from an RTX 2060 to an RTX 4070 for double the performance, but obviously price also almost doubled. There's no RTX 50 will be a skip for me unless I decide to double the my 4070's perf by buying a 5080 or 5080 Ti (and yes I bet there will be a 5080 Ti based on GB202)

Point being: going from one class of card (e.g., XX60) from one gen to the next has pretty much always been retarded. You'll always have to pay more for a higher class of card if you want to buy sequential gens

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Day 545 of waiting for next-gen GPUs.

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upgraders and potential upgraders of /pcbg/, what would you run to stress pic related running on >>102655008

>>102654674
3060ti to 5090 is going to be fun

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Just installed a new PSU and GPU into PC.
Booted fine but there's this absurdly loud noise while the pc is on.
I've heard of coil whine but this is SO LOUD, did I install anything wrong? What can I do about it?

>>102655606
turn down fan speed for gpu

>>102653442
You should've if you could afford it dumbass. I have a 7900 and I'm happy though. 12 is a great number, it'd be great if Zen 6 gave us at least 12-core CCDs. Then I'd buy the flagship 24-core Ryzen CPU.

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/lg/27gr93u-b
LG 27GR93U-B
Is this monitor worth it?

>>102655399
Dubs of untruth. No fucking games are worth it.

>>102655395
Furmark as a start. Make sure the HSF is up to snuff. Then do some recent RT bench to stress the tensor cores etc. that Furmark doesn't touch. Maybe 3DMark if the demo has an RT bench nowadays.

>>102655606
check if a cable is pushing against one of your fans
otherwise just use headphones, kek

>>102655606
Check if a fan is not hitting something.
Turn down fans one by each with fan control to see if it's not a fucked bearing.
Out of curiosity, what's your monitor's refresh rate?

>>102655243
NH-D15g2

>>102655243
8700k doesn't even break 100W under load, you don't need a kilogram of copper hanging off it.
Get an Assassin Spirit if the temperatures or the noise bother you.

>>102655936
>8700k doesn't even break 100W under load
it does if you're based and run it at 5ghz

>>102655765
Definitely not at 1440p, little guy isn't doing too well.

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Just got my first taste of AI youtube

some kind of history channel being turned into a tech channel

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Soon I will have NVME SSD

>>102655606
5 blade fan hitting something at 528 rpm

>>102656233
Based sonar technician.

>>102648443
>for AMD just stick to DDR5 6000MHz CL30
what does the CL30 part mean? i'm looking at buying some RAM thats DDR5-6000 PC5-48000 CL32. is that going to matter that much if its CL32 instead of CL30?

>>102656202
ripped off

>>102656329
CAS Latency
IIRC the reason people say 30 is because it guarantees the RAM's components are produced by Hynix which is for some reason seen as better than others?

>>102656329
The CL stands for CAS Latency (really "column address strobe" latency)
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/cas-latency-ram-cl-timings-glossary-definition,6011.html
Not majorly important at CL30 vs CL32, but most kits these days should be able to do CL30 and buying one at CL32 default could be sign it's earlier/slower DRAM. See if you can't find a 6000CL30 kit or get like a $3-10 discount on CL32 stuff.

>>102656329
>what does the CL30 part mean?
That's a damned rabbit hole. As simply as possible, it's the delay between "give me this data" and "here is data". CL30 means 30 memory clock cycles elapse between the two (or 10 nanoseconds). CL32 = 32 cycles and so on. Lower is better.
Technical stuff aside, the reason we recommend CL30 is because it's the lowest (best) commonly available timing and, at 6GT/s, means you're guaranteed to get Hynix memory chips which are the most stable at high speeds.
With that said there's not much of a performance difference between CL30 and 32, or even 40, but there also isn't usually much price difference. So for a mid-high range build, which this is - because DDR5, there's little reason not to get the best. Unless, of course, the CL32 kit is being offered at a steep discount.

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>>102655846
>Check if a fan is not hitting something.
I don't need a new GPU I need a new brain jfc.
It was the case USB cable, when I closed the back it pushed the slack back forward and to the fanblades.

Thanks anons.

>>102656364
Why is it listed in the OP then? Seems like an OK deal to me

>>102656397
>it guarantees the RAM's components are produced by Hynix which is for some reason seen as better than others
for XMP it will have better compatibility and better auto timings set by the board
hynix stuff is just better on DDR5, on DDR4 most hynix chips sucked quite bad, don't expect anyone who doesn't work at a DRAM manufacturer to be able to explain why
it is just the best for some reason

>>102656202
I bought an unboxed one of those in cash for 150 euros anon get fucked credit fag

>>102656525
yes but i have WARRANTY

>>102656525
based retard

Any suggestions on good budget keyboards and mouses?

I got a shitty keyboard that is somewhat uncomfortable for me

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>>102649093
>some of these PCIe lanes are occupied by the USB4 boondoggle
At least one MSI board allows you to disable the USB4 ports to get more PCIe 5.0 lanes. Check >>102651898
I can't find a single use for the USB4 ports so I think this is pretty smart.

>>102649122
>4 dimm slots kek
What do you mean?

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>>102655783
furmark at 2560x1440

>not bad for a 9 year old computer made mostly out of scrap and ebay parts

>>102649395
>>102649480
>Never had this problem (I use arch btw)
Same here. Never had problems like those with AMD.

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