ITT we laugh at dumbass technologies that never took offHAHAHAHHHAA
>why yes I would like to make my website 10 times for complicated for no reason
what? mongodb gets a ton of use anon
I like SQL.But over time I've come to realize that the pure, normalized, relational data model itself sucks massive ass for tons of use cases and that a document centric model fits way more use-cases way better.Imagine if we stored our code that way, in a normalized relational data store.That would be extremely retarded. But relation DBs get constantly used for things that are way more document-like.never used MongoDB btw
>>103249673I'm trans and I use MongoDB
>>103249673but mongodb is cloud scale?!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2F-DItXtZs
>>103250596Field => json data that you can read.
>>103251021at that point I'd rather just use a file
>>103249673proprietary garbage>b-but SSPL is freeno, it's notit restricts users from running proprietary programs on their machines, which, depending on a definition, may also include BIOS/UEFI
>>103250891Yeah, mongo DB can be scaled more efficiently than SQL.
>>103249673Huh?I worked for a highly successful SaaS company that uses MongoDB>>103250891Absolutely
>>103251021JSON!
>>103250837hi trans! I'm also trans and I use Arch btw
>>103249673I use a mix of nosql and sql, most of the stuff is in sql but some of the stuff is in nosql when i know there wont be complex relationships involved.It's almost like im not a fucking retard like 99% of the people on this board.
>>103249673>Look at this cool no-sql DB>It's just SQL but a single JSON column per table.>Even has b-tree indexes>Nearly zero support for any major framework except nodeI wonder why it failed.
>>103251477This. I don't want to support cuckware like that in any way.
>>103250596Right, you can go full autist and have a perfectly normalized SQL schema that is a complete PITA to use, or you can denormalize it where it makes sense because you have some confidence in what the usage patterns are going to be and the tradeoffs make sense.In the real world, plenty of people stuff JSON payloads in their postgres database to do something similar to what MongoDB claims to offer, usually with vastly better performance and scalability.
>>103249673What's the suckless alternative to SQL again?
>>103251477>>103253785actually I decided to read the license and noticed that it's incompatible with ANY piece of free software>If you make the functionality of the Program or a modified version available to third parties as a service, you must make the Service Source Code available via network download to everyone at no charge, under the terms of this License>you must make the Service Source Code available under the terms of this License>Service Source Code must be available under the terms of SSPL, which is impossible for GPL code of GNU and Linuxhow fucking hostile to free software you have to be to write this piece of shit?
>>103253922It's like AGPL but even worse. I really dislike both, they are only used to prevent people from making their own changes.
>>103253934>AGPL nah it's good, just look at Gabbai or TRVTH and see how they comply with it
>>103249673over-engineered piece of shit. Imagine clients having to pay $50,000 for a simple integration.
>>103253919the file-system in general and text files specificallywant to store more complicated things?write a parser
>>103253872>>103250596>reddit invented paragraphs Go back, retardditor
>>103250596I don't like not having a guarantee that certain fields are set, or what type of value they're supposed to.
>>103253934>they are only used to prevent people from making their own changes.>peopleAre you a AWS employee Anon? because otherwise that's some fucking crazy levels of Stockholm syndrome.
>>103250596>Imagine if we stored our code that way, in a normalized relational data store.thats basically what DoD/ECS is and it makes code way faster and efficient
>>103255345That isn't what ECS does, in theory you can combine ECS with DoD but in practice nobody does; also in general it doesn't make code way faster unless your working with thousands upon thousands of objects which is almost exclusive to game development.
>>103253919>suckless alternative to SQL>Tutorial D, pq, BigTable, plain old hierarchical filesystems.
>>103253872Wrong, you normalize the db as best as you can then build views and procedures to make it easier on the devs that will use it.
>>103249673ME*N is one of the most popular stacks in web dev.
>>103253746Node isn't a framework retard. That said it works with a lot of different web servers, JavaScript bros just made it super easy thanks to Mongoose.
>>103249673i like mongodb
>>103249673Bait thread
>>103249673>MongodbTell me you are unemployed without telling me you are unemployed
>>103249673mongo=retard
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>>103254461You have no idea how accurate you are.
Object databases have their own uses cases. Using object db's exclusively is retarded but so is using only relational db's without considering what would be the best tool for the job. Also Mongo is still fairly popular.
