so what's the eta on nvidia 5000 series? I'm looking for a midrange card and dunno whether I should wait or pull the trigger on 4070

>>103353732
5090 >>>>>>>>>>> 4090, 32 gb gddr7
5080 = 4080s, 16gb gddr7
5070 = 4070ti, 12 gb gddr7
5060 = 4060ti, 8gb gddr6x

>used rx 6700 xt 12gb for $280 on AliExpress

Is this a good deal? The seller has good feedback

>>103353747
cool I will wait for AMD's cards.

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>>103353698
We need to update the mobos on the OP post. Literal shit and "cheap X670" is a terrible descriptor.

https://youtu.be/H0axuzyN_1s?si=nfFhna7_g4ddVwXp

https://youtu.be/keJHego7neI?si=wd4J43DUY-Nj2ZoY

https://youtu.be/OpVgEmm0J2U?si=s_RiVITMnBKhVCcK

>>103353754
likely a mining card. don't do it, memory dies on them randomly.

>>103353768
b580 from intel looks interesting, I seriously hope they don't give up on dGPU, uge potential

My physical therapist mentioned today that he needs a new PC since is old one is ~5 years old (Ryzen 2600X, RTX 2050 or 2060, 16 GB). He does alot of 4k editing in Adobe Premiere and has a budget of up to 2.5k €. He wants a prebuilt due to warranty and not wanting to deal with putting it together himself since he would have no idea what he’s doing.

It piqued my interested – what kind of CPU/GPU/RAM configuration could he get for 2.5k € from a prebuilt for said video editing?

>>103353806
build him one for therapy discount, something like 9900+4070ti and 64gb ram would do
can cheap out on a board depending how many connection he needs

>>103353732
45 days.

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>>103353747
>12gb
>8gb

>>103353818
>therapy discount

Why would I do that? He wants one with warranty, I'm not around much longer here since I'm moving back to my appartment 100+ km away once I can drive my car again in 2-3 weeks and all my therapy gets completely paid by my health insurance.

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>>103353747
The funny thing is retards actually overpay pay the price of a 24GB 7900XTX just to get a 4070 class card because "dude DLSS and RT are better".

>>103353806
Here in Austria, i7, 4080 Super, 32GB. Mostly Captiva machines, plus a few Lenovo ones. Some models have R7 or 64GB instead.

Wonder if the 5070 will be any of an update from the 6650XT or not

>AAAAAAAAA
I can't set the PPT limit above the one that's max for the motherboard (120W) because it's manually disabled. As in 120W is all you get and then you're SOL and you'll say please and thank you. Well can't say I'm really all that happy but that's what I get for buying cheap stuff.

https://www.overclock.net/threads/gigabyte-b650m-gaming-wifi-motherboard-review-oc-disabled-in-bios-but-compatible-with-cooler-master-nr200p.1808715/

https://old.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/194xjc9/despite_b650_chipset_being_marketed_by_amd_as/

>>103353896
what for exactly? to save exactly thirty seconds in rendering time?

>>103353732
the 5070 will be slower than the 4070 super but will cost an extra $200
Calling it now

>>103353896
Yeah my gigabyte b450 locks me out of my 5800X3D PBO settings while other boards already updated theirs to support overclocking & stuff.

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>He boughted Gigashyte

>>103353931
Niggabyte*

>he buyed a poopoocolor

How long before PNY goes mainstream?

>>103353997
First PNY Kingpin release with the 5090 so next month

>>103353857
>the RT on the 8800XT is better than the 4070ti
>YEAH BRO BUT THE 5070 RT IS BETTER SO THE 8800XT IS COMPLETELY UNPLAYABLE

>>103353857
I want to make anime titties to cum over with AI though

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>>103354076
aussie asrock got you covered m8

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>550w peak 7900xtx on a stock 415w bios
lol
o
l

and those of you doubted me when i said i needed a 1600w psu

>>103354086
ewwww

Why should I avoid the latest series of Intel CPUs? Are you saying that I should have bought an AMD CPU instead?

>>103354099
what shape and brand design of rock have you been under?

>>103354092
maximum is transient peak, tbp is actual power. if you tell the gpu to do more than 3000mhz it will spike when possible.

>>103354099
13th and 14th gen had degradation issues all year and it was only just fixed last month with a microcode update, it means any used 13th and 14th cpu is basically assumed to be faulty.
15th gen is a joke.

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>>103353698
since 7800x3d appear to be sold out everywhere and at the risk of kicking a beehive
what do you think of this prebuilt?
https://www.newegg.com/yeyian-ryzen-7-7800x3d-amd/p/3D5-002P-00071?Item=3D5-002P-00071

>>103354150
AiO is stupid, other than that serviceable, I think it's a little too expensive for the ahrdware though

>>103354150
Shite mobo, shite psu.

>>103354099
>Why should I avoid the latest series of Intel CPUs?
Way too overpriced for the performance, only worth it if you do a specific workflow that works best on Intel hardware.
>Are you saying that I should have bought an AMD CPU instead?
Yes, or a 12th gen Intel for cheap. If gaming then nothing beats AMDs x3D CPUs.

>>103353698
>Budget: Gold rated 500-600W PSU
Where the fuck are these magical gold rated low wattage PSUs? Can't find anything corsair or super flower.

>>103354197
price difference is so minor, may as well take 750w

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>buy new 4k monitor
>new GPU hasn't arrived yet, that's gonna go in completely new rig
>play in shitty 1k
>suddenly monitor turns off
>couple seconds later turns back on
>cursor input is offset by a good margin, making it unplayable

What do?

>>103354243
are you using an old cable?

>>103354250
no, new monitor came with new cables, I'm using those

are hyte cases fine if you can find a good deal?
i assume theyre extremely overpriced as is

>>103354261
I'd test it with anything else with a HDMI port and if it has the same issue then its time for a warranty claim

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>all current 4k240 monitors are suspect with problems
>the g8 is matte slop but the cheapest one right now
you guys are forcing my hand to buy a C4 42" there is literally nothing else that just works

>>103354314
lg 4k 120hz hdmi 2.1 is the way to go

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>>103354342
except it goes to 144hz now, it might be the only option

in other news
>dsc is not related to black screen-ACK

>>103354354
120hz scales perfectly for 30fps content so i prefer that but it dont matter much with vrr lfc.

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can you run 4k165hz 10bit and everything on a HDMI 2.1 48gbps connection?
I would assume so since the tvs next year gonna run it

if so the msi 321up is a possible buy if you wanna skip dsc shenanigans if you can run the hdmi2.1 port for no dsc, it goes for the same price as the Samsung G8 here currently too, but it's not 240hz like the others

>>103354370
does it matter for smoothness if not running vrr? I guess
maybe that's why you want 240 or so I heard

>>103354314
black screen happens only to retards who still run exclusive fullscreen dx11 games

>>103354442
not talking about the alt+tab thingy, but screen going completely black or black flickers due to the dsc/monitor/firmware/cable/windows/gpu-jank

also, the MSI 321UP with DSC disabled runs 120hz only? what a shitty meme

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How do you pick a new monitor without fear? I see people getting dead pixels on arrival all the time online and companies even try to rip you off saying it's acceptable to have a minimum of dead pixels on a new product

>>103354197
I want a smaller PSU for nas. The more efficient the better.

>>103354464
of the 7 monitors I've gotten over the past 6 years I haven't noticed any dead pixels
if you're worried about it just buy it from some place you can return for any reason

Hey man, how’s this build for some Blender and Rhino (Rhinoceros) university projects, along with some casual gaming?
I know rendering builds need to be more powerful, but the budget is pretty tight.

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor
Motherboard: Asus PRIME B550M-A WIFI II Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory
Storage: Western Digital WD_Black SN850X 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive
Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 3060 Ventus 2X 12G GeForce RTX 3060 12GB 12 GB Video Card
Power Supply: MSI MAG A650GL 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply

What monitor should I get to pair with a 9800X3D/4080 super?

Why was I always scared of messing up while building a pc you literally just have to connect things togeher that can only go in one way

>>103354487
That's a concerning amount of monitors per year

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>>103353931
Yes I did and I don't regret it one bit

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>POV I just found out the C4 144hz mode is broken too
seems shit just can't work... tired

>>103354464
>How do you pick a new monitor without fear?
you don't

>saying it's acceptable to have a minimum of dead pixels on a new product
look up the iso standard, it is
but if you have consoomer rights you can return stuff

>>103354502
240-480hz oleds at 1440p or 4k I guess

>>103354519
It's just human nature bro. You fear what you don't (didn't) understand

Cinebench says 13339 for a 5700x3d, that seems pretty good. At what temp does this thing throttle?

X870 Steel Legend over the Pro RS any day, right?

>>103354502
240hz will make your 9800x3d sweat, and get an oled

Looking for a new case since old has shitty airflow and I've ugpraded from 200W to 700W parts. Partpicker tells me I need multiple USB header adapters. Is there really a big difference betwen 3.2 Gen 1 and Gen 2 and I need to chain adapters together?
Seems like mess and actually getting those parts seems difficult/expensive in my country.

>>103354527
eh, it was a 3 monitor setup a while back, then a recent upgrade to 4k, and a spare panel that sits on a nas
average cost per monitor was under 200

Are there multiple hardware versions of FreeSync or something? I dumpster dived for an old Lenovo gayming monitor to use as a secondary and my Nvidia GPU doesn't like it, enabling VRR makes the image split in half, with the right half shifted up a hundred pixels or so.

>>103354545
TJmax for that chip is 90C but if it gets that hot your cooler and/or case are garbage.

https://videocardz.com/newz/gunnir-arc-battlemage-gpus-to-be-revealed-on-december-4th

INTEL WON

THANK YOU INTEL

>>103354631
PAT
LOOK
I POSTED IT AGAIN

7800XT Hellhound or Steel Legend?

>>103354549
>>103354540
are OLEDs really worth it
I'm not planning on upgrading my monitor for a long time

>>103354643
Hellhound.

is 1000 watts overkill for a power supply
the outlets in my house don't even have 3 prongs

>>103354653
if you have to ask

>>103354645
>are OLEDs really worth it
best response times for muh FPS games 480hz
only 1440p480hz monitors that exist are (w)OLED
only 4k240hz monitors that exist outside of the old samsung g8 neo curved va
so best option in the 27-32 range
if you want tv sizes 55-65-77 they will be brighter and have better pq but worse motion

>>103354674
>here, eat

>>103354674
>Anon the 8800xt is ready
T-thanks mummasan

>>103354631
I bet its A770 tier

>>103354674
I want to taste Mommy Su's breast meat, some of her stuffing and gravy.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Corsair/comments/1gosqo0/corsair_12pin_melted_4090_now_dead/

Corsair bros I thought we were safe from the melting…

>>103354790
https://www.reddit.com/r/Corsair/comments/1h253mp/looks_like_my_corsair_12vhpwr_pcie_cable_is/
Another one…

I’ve been babying the AW3225QF for almost a year. Tempted to just remove the training wheels and start using it more often for stuff.

>>103354790
>>103354794
I think it's 12RTRD to blame, not Corsair.

>>103354807
Data centers have been using the cable for years and you never hear about melting from them

>>103354707
would a cheap monitor arm on a kind of thin desk have a problem with a bigger monitor

>>103354790
>>103354794
Should have water blocked that power cable.

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>>103354502
Take the backlight strobing pill so you get better motion clarity at 60 than midwits get at 240 non-strobed.

>>103354805
have you had any problems
I was leaning towards a c4 but now I am considering the G8 again

>>103354828
aren't they rated for x amount of kg?

>>103354901
I don't know
it's like a 30-40 dollar arm

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I don't need it... I don't need it...

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>>103354540
>pic
were the reddit retard using a shit cable and complaining the 144 mode is buggy?
can't trust retards
maybe I should consoom the C4 after all FUCK

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>>103354829
Kek MY new 1600w gook psus came with these faggot cables never gonna use them since I only use Intel and AMD gpus

why can't amd just make cuda cores

>>103355022
Do you think they will revert back to the classic 8 pin? Imagine the seething.

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What's going on here? Did we get cucked by pre-Black Friday sales?
Is this the new trick/scam of the retailers? Pre-BF prices so they can inflate BF ones?
I would really like a £75 EVO 2TB.

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>>103354790
>>103354794
>>103354807
It truly is the shittist standard I've ever seen not even molex did that even melted his PSU side connector LOL
>>103354821
Source PRETTY SURE THATS A DIFFERENT CONNECTION
>>103355051
Amd and Intel refuse to touch it almost 5yrs later lol

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>>103355033
Zluda exists why can't Nvidia make atx3.x pcie5 cables and cards that don't melt? No way in fuck those transients are below 600w

>>103355033
its Nvidia proprietary, ZLUDA is for AMD and Intel cards.

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I don't think atx3.1 or pcie6 will fix this kek either the material their using for the plastics cables connectors and pin design is shit or there's something fucking up resistance somewhere I've never seen a pcie 1-3 atx2.x cable 6 or 8 pin melt like this in over 20 years

>>103355033
It's not necessary, just run a translation layer. problem is that nvidia will sue you because they are gay like intel in athlon 64 era

>>103355060
I really cant believe they sat there thinking, "GPUs are about to double the wattage, why don't we make a connector that has half the pin size and half the pin count of a 3x 8pin setup."

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>>103355085
>>103355087
Doesn't this work? https://github.com/vosen/ZLUDA/releases why did they remove Intel support

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Looking for a new motherboard to pair with 9800x3d (I'm retarded, it was in stock for an hour yesterday and I didn't buy it for some reason and it's out again).
The Steel Legend is barely available here and it's quite expensive.
Since Gigabyte has a cashback promotion, I've been eyeing the b650 eagle, but it only has 1Gbit ethernet (my internet is 600Mbit), any other pcie port that isn't main is just 3.0x1 that fits x16 (I'm not going to put in anything other than GPU), USB doesn't matter much since I have a 10 port hub.
Now I'm looking at B650 Aorus Elite AX V2, which is 50$ more than the eagle, but 50$ less than steel legend and still pretty comparable, but just doesn't have pcie 5.0. We're not really likely to reach the limits of 4.0 for the next like 10 years are we, so it should be fine right?
I only have 1 NVME drive, so I don't really need 3 m.2 slots, but I'm really easily upsold.
Still open for any other suggestion though.

>>103355089
I'm hesitant to take the power cap off mine and it's watt starved at 415w lol imagine it at the full 3.3ghz 800w dips as low as 2400-2750mhz under heavy load

>>103355103
It does work but it violates CUDA's terms of use

>>103355109
I'm waiting for ali express board to save the day if not I'll check out and get a b650

800 series is shit here I cannot be fucked I hope my 96gb ali ram gets here tho

>>103355122
Good fuck the law fuck their terms fuck using their dogshit connectors

All their cards would run on triple 8 pin on the high and and dual 8 pin easy.
600w across a single connector with no redundancy is retarded I called it almost 4yrs ago when I saw it on the 3090s it's physically just too small for the amount of amps/transient load

>>103355103
Intel dropped support last year and AMD dropped it this year after Nvidia made it clear translation layers violate their TOS.
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/nvidia-bans-using-translation-layers-for-cuda-software-to-run-on-other-chips-new-restriction-apparently-targets-zluda-and-some-chinese-gpu-makers

>>103355052
This is how BF deals have worked for 2 decades now, anon. They always raise the price on BF week then apply a big "discount" so it looks like you're saving big. Yes, prices are often better in Oct and early Nov compared to BF week. Now that you know, you will be ready for the next pre-BF shopping time.

>>103354970
Just get the burst assassin vision from aliexpress

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>>103355152
Fuck Nvidia it should be an open standard meanwhile their mouth breathing retarded fans think this shit connector is ok lol

>>103355141
The auto industry is falling for the same retardation. They run 10 gauge wires to relays with pins the size of needles and they burn up. Engineers are retarded now and clearly are not putting in the proper safety factor.

>>103355154
This but I'm still waiting on crap from Ali and others 11.11 sale
Black Friday itself is shit the real discounts are in Jan Feb after everyone's blown their q4 wage tax returns on xmas

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>>103355154
I knew they do this but not that much. £75 for an EVO is an actual deal.
I will find some website to send me notifications on prices.

>>103355188
>Engineers are retarded now and clearly are not putting in the proper safety factor.
this is racist SAAR

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>boughted an rm850x instead of the cheaper mag 850gl w/ pcie5
did I fuck up

>>103355188
Had the same shit happened with my kings wiring loom fuse burnt out replaced it with a bigger fuse no problem.

Also noticed newer cables quality in general are shit compared to 10-20 years ago quality of heat sink fins on noctura got so bad di stopped buying them when aios got good

>>103355177
Isn't angled connector a known haram?

>>103355204
Fuck no I got two 1600w atx3 with one 12vhpwr each and I'll never use them

Hate those gay cable's

>>103355204
RMx is better
Ax50GL=RMe (same CWT platform)

how to I install windows
how do I get rid of all the gay shit

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https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/m8BsZc

AMD build for 4k editing, gaming and VR.

trying to get this price down a bit quiet losing too much power.

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>>103355207
Haha yeah meanwhile my old 3x8pin handle over 1500w and I had 500w over dual 8pin

>>103355220
Rufus
Debloater
USB
KMS vl all aio

>>103355221
Overkill PSU, get something with 750-850W.

>>103355221
You can get a cheaper motherboard, and a better nvme for cheaper
850W PSU
cheaper case

>>103355220
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hn1qVsUKNAE
This gets rid of trending searches. and the homo search bar.

>>103355221
>Nvidia gpu
Lol

>>103355221
Also Arctic Freezer 3. Cheapest and best aio.

>>103355251
Oh and openshell
Then you should be pretty good grab some open source shit on ninite so you don't have to bother with 365 office which is shit

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LQwlgx0vPbI&pp=ygUJNDA5MCBtZWx0
Kek it's never ending I remember been banned off an Aussie tech forum ocau for calling this out 2yrs ago stupid fucktard try hard fanboys they are
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JqzhcZP4P-U&pp=ygUJNDA5MCBtZWx0

>>103354456
>MSI 321UP with DSC disabled runs 120hz only
how is this a surprise? if monitors could run without DSC they wouldn't bother with it at all
while HDMI 2.1 can technically handle 144hz, it's so close to maximum spec that it's bound to have issues if your cable sucks or if the HDMI chip in the monitor caps at ~40gbps
>screen going completely black or black flickers
it's probably due to DSC + multi-monitor setups exceeding GPU capabilities
obviously because of omega retards on the internet never describing their exact issues and setups it's impossible to figure out the culprit
>>103354540
>C4 144hz mode is broken too
see above
>>103354979
>were the reddit retard using a shit cable
it can come down to the cable, anything above HDMI2.0/DP1.4 is going to be extremely picky due to the high and strict bandwidth requirements
any longer sizes for those are going to need fiber optic cables to work
>maybe I should consoom the C4
stop being a poorfag and buy a 32" QD-OLED already

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>>103355254
>>103355258
>>103355248

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/3dhnHW

updated.

>>103355337
non-rgb ram saves you like 50
the 990 was actually cheaper currently, but the sn850x is cheaper still

>>103355337
I still see expensive board, samsung drive, expensive case (it is the best looking case)

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>>103353698
>buy 1 tb ssd
>end up with 850gb after installing windows and nothing else
why is this?

https://www.ple.com.au/products/671371/ex-demo-gigabyte-b650-eagle-ax-am5-atx-desktop-motherboard

If my ali 200usd x670e gaming wifi doesn't show should I get this for 150usd?

>>103355390
you should've used a smaller ssd for windows, numbnuts

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>>103355369
yah hate that rgb stuff.

>>103355371
case I already have. bday present from gf


https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/g69hyW

bit cheaper now. $3079.94 CAD. maybe trying to get it to $2000 ish without really jeopardizing speed

https://x.com/IntelGaming/status/1862859173207113798

INTEL WON

THANK YOU INTEL

>order the Arctic P14 White Argb on Amazon
>they arrive the next day
>except they're the P12 instead
>the P14 white rgb no longer exist there, only either black or P12
Well, that was weird. Any other 140mm, white, rgb fans for a radiator I can get? Need them to be compatible with either icue or fancontrol

>>103355423
getting it to 2000 is gonna require some significant concessions

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i like how corsair has had maybe 3 out of hundreds of thousands of cables melt and you guys are going full sperg mode

i posted the reddit links as memes

>>103355177
>>103355222
i too have the recently released corsair angled cable

>>103355207
adapters are bad. angled cables are the same as regular cables with a safe 90 degree bend

what is the best budget (100-150) motherboard for a770 + 12400f?

Are there any performance differences between an ATX and a mATX?

>AVOID: 'Silent' cases, fanless cases, Corsair 6500, Corsair 4000D airflow
Why should I avoid those cases?

>>103355494
I mean there is less available room for vrm and chipset cooling but not really to the point where its gonna affect the average user

is 1000w PSU enough for a 9800x3d and a theoretical 5080 or possibly 5090?

>>103355514
yeah

>>103355514
I'll be very surprised if a 9800x3d + 5090 pulls more than 800 watts

>>103355523
My build pulls 400W. Is a 500W PSU enough?

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>DUDE buy $1000 worth of stuff and get a 40% on some of it
How about you give me a 40% on $20 purchase instead, like an actual sale.

>>103355541
for what

>>103355547
gaming

>>103355552
500w psu with what components you stupid retard don't make me angry

>>103355541
if its not a diablotek

>>103355429
earlier than expected
2-slot though, so lower mid range at best, which would be ncie if they destroy xx60s

>>103354289
I have the y60, building in it is a nightmare due to how small every space is, and cable managing the back is impossible due to psu cables barely fitting. I'd strongly suggest going for custom length cables from cablemods or the sort if you have money to waste, especially for the 12vhpwr if you have a series 40 card and no atx 3.0 psi

>>103355429
are they making these from their TSMC allocation?

>>103355599
why would they

>>103355544
that's pretty good..

7900XTX here is 810 euros on non-sale price, and with the black friday sale I got it 20% off for equivalent of 675 euros
If i had a 40% off blanket sale then it would have been 486 euros?

STILL WAITING FOR AMAZON TO SHIP MY 7900XTX THOUGH!!!!!

>>103355611
if they're not, then it's probably going to be a disappointment lol

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https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/kwxD2x

getting a bit lower.

>>103355624
i'm not following your train of thought here

>>103353931
There are good and bad/underwhelming models from almost all AIBs.

Can a 5700X3D properly drive a 7900XTX? I don't intend to upgrade further for a very long time.

What seller on ali has the closest to real PTM7950?

>>103355563
i’m not saying, i’m ashamed of saying, just knowing they pull 400W should be enough for you to give me an answer.

>>103355422
wdym? like buying a 500gb SSD? what difference does it make? windows take 70 gb either way

>>103355628
Get a more cheaper nvme and a better motherboard. Your previous boards had wifi.

>>103355707
are you sure you should be posting here? you are acting like a toddler

>>103354289
>>103355579
Forgot to mention, I believe with the latest revision of the case they increased the space in the back, but don't quote me on that

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I'm looking at building a lower end mid range computer such as a Ryzen 5600 based system with a 2060 super or a Ryzen 7500F system with a 6600xt but I don't play any /v/idya or have any desire to run anything heavier than Microsoft orifice and a browser. Should I accept that I'm not cool and get a N100 based NUC instead with a regular iGPU?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8C87Wc

$1200 gaming build. Is there anything off here? Anywhere I can shave off a few dollars/trade for a bit better performance?

>>103355711
you complained about windows taking up space in the first place
even a 250gb would do the trick and, must be like what 20 bucks?

>>103355390
A clean Windows (10, of course, you aren't retarded, right?) install is around 25GB.

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Why is the A580 -> A750 -> A770 performance jump so small?

>>103355721
nvme
SK Hynix Platinum P41 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive

$186 CAD


recommend a good motherboard?

I don't think I can really get this think too much cheaper.

well for one there's only a difference of 20 between A750 and A770

>>103355735
which state/city do you live? i wanna see you saying all that crap to my face, i’m gonna fucking murder you

I'm looking at getting a R7 7700x, but can get a R7 9700x for an additional 50 euros. Worth it for gayming?

>>103355749
>Windows 10
Yeah, YOU are retarded.

>>103355756
btw the mobo you picked is just barely above the cheapo mobos that bottleneck a 7950X

look down to the VRMs temps chart, technically it does pass the test and doesn't bottleneck but just barely
if you live in a hot humid place then maybe get a better mobo
https://www.techspot.com/review/2861-amd-b650-motherboards-part-3/

>>103355769
>proves my point
yikes, i'm genuinely feeling second hand embarrassment

>>103355737
If you don't game (and you're not poor) a 8700G build will serve you for a long time (and allow you to easily upgrade if you ever feel like it).

>>103355784
>hot humid place
>$CAD
Anon...

>>103355737
Get the mini pc

>>103355749
i went with windows 11. still it doesn't make sense why I have lost so much space

>>103355784
>https://www.techspot.com/review/2861-amd-b650-motherboards-part-3/


MSI Pro B650M-A WiFi seems decent. getting my overall price 2800

>>103355776
why not just get a 7600. same performance in gaming and not a big diff in productivity stuff
devs seem to never utlize higher core counts

>>103355737
Might consider a cheap laptop with an igpu and get the mobility I guess.

>>103355769
Enjoy your party van ride to fuck-you-in-the-ass prison.

Razer Naga V2 Pro or Naga V2 Hyperspeed? I just wanted to get either them mostly for mmos since my G600 is finally dying.

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I missed and honestly didn't care for Black Friday this year. I need two monitors for gaming and coding though. Any cool offers I missed?

>>103355754
Laughing my ass of at that 500 dollar 4060.

>>103355886
>Gaming
Practically all of the OLED monitors were on sale, many at all-time low prices.
I'm waiting® for my QD-OLED monitor to arrive today.
>Coding
There are some good IPS discounts too.

Some of these deals are still active.
It was a good year to buy monitors, PSU, system memory, CPU cooler, and cases in 2024.

>>103355905
>4060
Any specific models to recommend, I know my way around pc parts but nothing about monitors.

>>103355833
Mostly to future-proof as much as I can. You think it wouldn't matter much?

>>103355966
what matters is the board you pick
so you can move onto a cpu with 8, 12 cores in the future and not worry about throttling
i doubt you'll need 16 or 24 cores if you're fine with 6 or 8 today

>>103355966
Not unless you know for a fact that the games you like prefer 8 cores. Buying a 7600 is a better choice long term anyway since in the future you can upgrade to a beefy X3D chip when they go on sale and it means you will have spent less money on your first chip.

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>>103355784
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/vFtXPJ

4k editing, vr and gaming.

got the price down to 2548.95 cad

now questing the PSU and cooler

>>103353698
Anyone seeing these new gpu listings from new accounts on ebay selling like hotcakes? 4070Tis and 7800XTs for $200 lmao

I think I made a good choice getting the MSI B550M PRO-VDH WIFI, it has a Nuvoton I/O controller which apparently is great for Linux support. I hope everything works well.

>>103355448
Anyone?

>>103355934
Are you saying you have a 4060 video card?
It won't be able to fully utilize the OLED monitors but I'll list a few anyway.

>1440p
If the room isn't too bright, QD-OLED is a good choice
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/BR7scf/msi-mag-271qpx-qd-oled-e2-265-2560-x-1440-240-hz-monitor-mag-271qpx-qd-oled-e2
If you're setting it on a brighter room, WOLED is better (deeper black vs. raised black contrast in brighter area for QD-OLED)
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/cRNxFT/lg-27gr95qe-b-265-2560-x-1440-240-hz-monitor-27gr95qe-b

>4K
Dark room
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/xgxxFT/msi-mpg-321urx-qd-oled-315-3840-x-2160-240-hz-monitor-mpg-321urx-qd-oled
Bright room
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/q3GhP6/lg-ultragear-32gs95ue-b-315-3840-x-2160-240-hz-monitor-32gs95ue-b

>Affordable 1440p gaming monitor
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/mgWJ7P/asus-rog-strix-xg27acs-270-2560-x-1440-180-hz-monitor-xg27acs

>4K coding IPS monitor
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dTJp99/gigabyte-m27u-sa-270-3840-x-2160-160-hz-monitor-m27u-sa

>>103356014
I have a Gigabyte B650 on my list right now.
>and not worry about throttling
How can I tell?

>>103356015
Sounds reasonable.

>>103356049
Yeah happens every black friday. Crap ton of bot accounts flooding eBay and Amazon and Newegg trying to scam people.

>>103356076
>How can I tell?
The current carrying capability of your mosfets without overheating.

>>103356111
Can’t people just do a charge back? Seems pointless

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>>103353806
>He does alot of 4k editing in Adobe Premiere
>He wants a prebuilt due to warranty and not wanting to deal with putting it together himself since he would have no idea what he’s doing.
Mac mini with M4 Pro, and I'm not kidding.

>>103356147
chargeback is last resort which gets your shipping/billing address banned. the store will usually refund you immediately because its a obvious scam.

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>>103356150
Apple realized they needed to attract more normies in their ecosystem for growth.
These are cheap enough to be bought up by public schools.

>>103355506
Silent means "no airflow" => high temps

corsair is shit and low quality

>>103355448
>>103356071
Go with Lian Li or Corsair fans, Lian Li if you want to avoid iCue.

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>>103356076
>I have a Gigabyte B650 on my list right now.
>>and not worry about throttling
>How can I tell?
There is a spreadsheet that lists VRM components and configuration. Google AM5 spreadsheet. You can cross reference it with picrel.

>>103356180
You’re shit and low quality.

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Do I need a heatsink for a 4TB SSD or is it some gimmicky shit to take money from retards?

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Day 604 of waiting for next-gen GPUs.

>>103356150
lol, lmao

>>103356071
Phanteks and Cooler Master also offer some decent fans.

>>103356198
What’s VRM and how does it impact the motherboard and the CPU?

I think i experienced ghosting with my VA monitor for the first time. Actually decided to turn on my Xbox to play with the boyz. Ran everything through a shitty external capture card. And i could tell immediately that ghosting was happening, clouds were leaving blotched trails, objects radiated blurriness when i would move. Not that i'm complaining about the monitor since it doesn't ghost with my pc. More so this just tells me people who complain about ghosting with VA are just double poor.

>>103355680
>Can a 5700X3D properly drive a 7900XTX
you'll be CPU bottlenecked regularly in modern games with a 5700x3D, hard to quantify the performance loss though

>>103353800
Linking some videos is not good enough. Which ones do you propose and why?

From the first video: the B850/X870 summary is a good reason why they are not that interesting.
>B850 is exactly the same B650 except for a PCIE5 M2 slot
>X870(E) has some small benefits like USB4
Most people do not need or want USB4
or PCIe5 M2 or x16.

A lot of ISP companies aren't even shipping Wifi7 yet and most people use their ISP's router.

In addition, there are also B650 and X670 boards with the PCIe5 M2 slot.

Second video:
>A lot of these boards, are very well designed, and pat great features, but are also hideously expensive. "You need to be in need of those features for the price to be justifiable"

Third video:
>We didn't do any benchmarks because there is no difference with B650/X670
>The only real advantage to these boards in the (mandatory, me) USB4 support, but there were already 600 series borads with USB4 support

The videos you link seem to argue against advising them lol. The B650/X670 are almost the same, and just as good.

Also, B850 ain't even out yet. And there are more X870(e) boards coming and prices are still stabilizing.

>>103355325
>how is this a surprise?
I would think it would be handle full hdmi2.1 bandwidth, capping it to 120 sucks since maybe it would be an alternative to dsc ones for cheaper

>see above
Now I'm scared not even the c4 is safe from software jank supposedly gsync and stuff working better in the 120 mode
Everything is fucking broken I swear

>can come down to the cable,
Now I'm starting to think the dropouts might come from bad or interference in the dp1.4 cables too, or I mean I think you get problems for too many cables laying next to each other too
Maybe need higher quality shielded dp cables or something

>stop being a poorfag and buy a 32" QD-OLED already
The g8 the best priced one and still in stock, any thoughts on it? I saw it irl and it wasn't that bad

>>103356223
What's the joke?

>>103356208
Heatsinks for SSDs are just for the higher speed ones if memory serves me right, nothing to do with the actual storage size.

>>103356208
For the newer high speed ones. Especially gen5 that needs them.
Your board should have them covering the slots though.

>>103356254
You you need one it will likely come shipped with one. Also, a lot of motherboards already come with their own heatsinks.

>>103356228
Your cpu needs power. Your wall provides 110-240V Alternatic Current. Your Power Supply Unit converts the wall power into 12 Volt Direct Current. But your cpu works at only 1V DC. So the motherboard has to chop the 12V up into 1V and smooth it out. The part of the board that fulfills this task is called VRM.
When your VRM doesn't have enough components to pass all the current your cpu needs it will overheat, and the board will lower your clock speed. Or doesn't, search MSI Krait fire on youtube.

>>103356017
>>103356017
>>103356017
bump

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>>103353931
Yes.

goes a gpu supporter have to go on a certain part of the gpu or just a clear area with no fans? Also my board has a pcie power port, do I need to connect it if I'm just using one GPU and nothing else in the pceie slots?

>>103356280
I didn’t get any of that, explain it to me like I’m five.

>>103356198
Thanks. Never knew about that.

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>>103356285
Get one of these. Lian Li GB-002

>>103356302
wall, electricity, motherboard, regulates electricity, motherboard, giant data cable, VRM, regulates, if vrm doesn't regulate, kablamie
does that help, monkey?

>>103356302
Watch this video. It's 40 seconds long.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zTzpYjQ2MM

redpill me on PTM7950

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My local e-shops raised prices highter than usual and they're selling everything, Asrock B650M HDV/M.2 now costs 250 euro and nearly sold out everywhere, Montech Titan Gold 850W peaked at 230 euros yesterday (outpricing Titan Gold 1000W at that moment, which stays at 225 euros) and today is out of stock.Sheeps thought "Uuhhh, it's Black Friday, time to go shopping!" and they swept everything, even crazy priced. Shopkeepers must be swimming in coins like Donald Duck by now. I cannot wait until Black Friday hype ends and everything goes back to normal so I can finally buy something.

t. Eastern Europoor

>4k 144hz monitor on display port cable runs just fine
>plug in old 1080p 144hz monitor to my gpu via hdmi cable
>4k monitor is now stuck at 60hz
Genuinely what the fuck? I have never seen this happen before.

>>103356193
>>103356224
I'm actually coming from Lian li fans, I think their rgb controller died or something since they reverted to the default rainbow puke and refuse to change color. Plus, I had them setup as white background light with a moving blue one, but the white part quickly became yellow less than a year after I bought them, and every now and then their motors decide to make noise as if they're breaking only to stop randomly. Utter disappointment for what I paid for them
Any recommended ones for Corsair/Phanteks/Cooler Master? For my other radiator + back of the caseI'm already using 4 LL120, and I'm not sure if my commander core xt has slots for two more fans (I also have my pump attached to that)

>>103356323
So if my motherboard doesn’t have enough VRM it will catch fire? What do I do to avoid that other than getting another motherboard?

>>103356357
They don't catch fire, it will lower your clock speed.
This is why you see people complain about unoptimized games.
You avoid it by using a motherboard capable of supplying your cpu with all the current it needs.

>>103354790
>>103354794
I'm not sure how NVIDIA's going to fix this issue even with the RTX 5090, PSU manufacturers already invested in this shit.
If anyone's planning to buy a 5090, set at least a 400~450W power limit on that card until a few idiots start melting their new card.

>>103356373
if i am buying a $2k video card im not limiting it like a fucking retard

i'm going to use it the way it was meant to be used and if it melts i'm getting it fixed

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My mobo only came with this m2 clip and no separate stand off. This alone should be good right? Since it seems especially made for that.

>>103356368
And how do I know if my motherboard is capable of supplying my cpu with all the current it needs?

>>103355905
Yes, all the old, low-quality OLED monitors with LG panels, which have a poor sub-pixel layout, were on sale. Enjoy your shitty fonts, anon

>>103356373
I don't understand you guys. NVIDIA sells stacks upon stacks of these cards with evne higher power limits to datacenters. If those aren't melting why are the consumer ones melting?

The most logical reasoning is that it's not actually that widespread of an issue. Molex connectors melt all the time but nobody ever wants to bring that up.

>>103356391
You ask on forums Hello is BingoBangoBongo Y335-69 good enough for AMD FuckRapist 260

>>103355742
that's a really good build, all parts seem like the most cost effective ones you could get.
>get 7600X from Aliexpress to save some money
>replace RAM with confirmed Hynix A-die kit (Teamgroup or Kingbank) if the one you picked might not be
>there might be a better NVME for the price?
is what you could check to further optimize, but frankly I wouldn't bother

>>103356248
>safe from software jank
nothing is sadly, have to deal with the jank some way or another. it's still largely overblown on r*ddit since most users have no issues whatsoever
>higher quality shielded
it doesn't matter too much for DP1.4/HDMI2.0 because they're low bandwidth, but yeah HDMI/DP2.1 are a pain in the ass with cables.
you have to keep the cable length short otherwise you'll run into all sorts of issues from poor qc and inexistant certifications.
those motherfuckers also cost a shit-ton if you need any length above 2m
>g8
it's good, samsung matte coating is FAR better than the matte WOLED monitors
you can somewhat "reduce" the ABL if you fuck around in its service mode, afaik it's the only one that lets you mod that

I just got a 990 Pro 4TB to add to my storage. My OS is on a 980 Pro 2TB, will it be worth it to clone my system over to the 990 Pro?

>>103356433
No. Use it for games that actually make use of directstorage, like MHWilds

What programs do you guys use for monitoring the temperatures and CPU/GPU usage?

>>103356356
The white + ARGB premium is farcically high overall.
Even Fractal's option costs as much as the Noctua A12x25 chromax.black fan.
I would just pick an affordable one for a different brand's first-time purchase.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Tvn9TW/cooler-master-masterfan-mf140-halo2-5951-cfm-140-mm-fan-mfl-b4dw-16np2-r2
The fan design on Phantek's cheaper option looks too basic bitch.
Cooler Master designs, produces, and tests these fans in their factory.
Corsair RS140 is a bit too pricey.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/qmXV3C/corsair-rs140-argb-955-cfm-140-mm-fan-co-9050186-ww

>>103356468
HWINFO64 is all you need my man

hello im pakistani is you choice lian li phanteks or antec as case?

>>103356491
DO NOT REDEEM

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>>103356468
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>>103356480
It’s not available on Linux.

>>103356504
ok THATS ENOUGH. YOU STUPID LINUX NIGGES INTENTIONALLY OMIT THIS INFORMATION SO YOU CAN REPLY WIWTH "UMM AHKSHUALLY IT DOESN'T WORK ON LINUX"
FUCK YOU AND MAYBE STOP USING LINUX

>>103356496
sir what

>>103356417
But they did melt

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>>103356393

>>103356504
sensors
cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep MHz
xfce task manager and panel cpu usage thingy

What is the name of that program that has that little alien on a spaceship that people use for testing image quality?

>>103356530
blurbuster ufo test

>>103356504
corectrl (you already have it for your undervolt)
radeontop

For anyone who was thinking of upgrading to win11 from 10 for the performance benefits of 24h2 update due to scheduler fix or whatever: don't expect and difference at all.
My debloated win10 pro gives me the same synthetic cpu benchmark performance as win11 ltsc. Havent tried games but i dont think its gonna be any different.

>>103356513
That is actually annoying and people do that here all the time

>>103356548
i mean 5800x3d scores worse than 5800x in cinebench but the x3d will demolish it in games

>>103356530
>name of that program
Not a program.
>little alien on a spaceship
TestUFO
>testing image quality
It does not test image quality but motion.
You're supposed to record the UFOs moving in sync with a camera to assess your monitor's ghosting/trailing, crosstalk and overall motion clarity.

>>103356549
This is /g/. The default OS here is Linux, it’s you Windows niggers that are out of place here.

holy cow all the 7900xtx sold out on newegg. all thats left are rma refurbs.

How bad are the reflections on LG C4? I heard it doesn't have matte but still has some anti-glare on it. Will I be staring at myself in the face when the screen goes black during movies and games?

>>103356548
I don't trust Windows 11 for performance at all after Microsoft had to step in and block an update that would have broken several games.

>>103356571
How do I know if my monitor has ghosting?

>>103356606
I think its just shitty ubisoft games. they updated the dx12 agility and every dx12 game should benefit (unreal engine especially) only the really shitty games regress.

So i've just slapped some new ram into my system because it was cheap and i'm having stability issues and bluescreens. It's definitely seated correctly.
mobo is a b350
cpu r5 1600
gone from 16gb 3000mhz ram to 32gb 3600mhz. Is ram frequency being too high for the cpu a thing? when i go into the bios and manually set frequency to 3400 instead i'm getting less errors and crashes.

>>103355109
Bump. Anyone got input?

>>103356628
the ram frequency is too high for the cpu's memory controller. ryzen 1000 caps out at 3000-3200.

>>103356628
Don't mix and match ram kits unless you know exactly what you're doing. Set your timings manually. https://github.com/integralfx/MemTestHelper/blob/oc-guide/DDR4%20OC%20Guide.md
Have fun!

>>103356628
zen1 had massive memory problems. my 1700 could only do 2866/3000mhz memory without massive timing tinkering

>>103353698
I would let Lisa Su peg me if she stayed with me for a weekend in bed.

Saturday would just be constant fucking with cuddles and kissing in between. Not leaving bed, save for necessary piss breaks before quickly returning to plunge back under the covers, taking refuge from the cold in each other's warm embrace

Breakfast wouldn't cross our minds until 9pm, and we'd both lose 5lbs from fucking and starving together, only ingesting each other's spit. She'd continue to figuratively glow in her black latex, shoelace, and sheer satin outfits. Beaming like an idol.

Sunday morning we'd leave bed and go outside in oversized winter jackets and boots. She'd hand me a cigarette and light both of ours like in a film. I have never even smoked before, but rolling with the dizzying theme of degeneracy, and medical grade limerence (and not to mention dietary hunger), I wouldn't stir. Trying not to cough, I'd glance at her for indirect instruction while she gazed at the sky across the silent, dim, snowy street.

Come Sunday evening, both our lustful teenage hearts, anticipating the big Monday to come - meetings with PMs, TSMC engineers, press conferences - real life - would have her departure whirling in both our minds, or at least just mine.

Finally, when I'm nodding off at 8pm from hunger and lethargy from the cigarettes, sore jaw, and empty balls, she'd dress in her usual grey tailored blazer and trousers, pack up her lingerie soiled in spunk, saliva and sweat, and quietly vanish when I thought she was just out of bed using the washroom

I'd wake up Monday morning, the curtain allowing an inch of sunlight to cast on the foot of my bed, children shouting outside, and the clock hands piercing the deafening stillness indoors, not knowing what the fuck is real, except that my weekend with Lisa Su would never happen again, cus she's just one of those girls

>>103356628
What I would do is lower the ram frequency but instead lower the timings to compensate.

>>103356628
oh and get a 5600/5700x already.... super cheap for massive performance increase

>>103356630
I have the B650 eagle with 7800X3D and it just works. I'm not really qualified to know what motherboard is best for you but I'm just giving my anecdote.

probably not the right thread for it but /3/ is dead since the purge so I'm not sure where else to ask. I'm getting into 3D modeling, sculpting currently. I understand the best way to do this is with a tablet and digital pen. No idea what to look for or what's considered good. Any recommendations?

>amd software is crap, prices are mediocre
>nvidia prices are insane and vram is garbage
>intel is the last hope, a one in a million chance they might do things right

Have I summed the gpu market up correctly?

>>103356617
follow this https://blurbusters.com/motion-tests/pursuit-camera/
if the testufos in a clear frame from your record havve some kind of trailing/shadow around them : it's ghosting.
>>103356597
>How bad are the reflections on LG C4?
for a truly glossy panel it's totally fine, never bothered me.
>Will I be staring at myself in the face when the screen goes black during movies and games?
in a dark room no, if you have light reflecting on it then yes slightly. I find my glossy qd-oled to be less "mirror"-reflective than my LG TVs, might just be because of the bigger size reflecting more light
>>103355109
I'll make it simple for you anon
>are you concerned with money (ie. poor) ?
if yes, send back the 9800x3D
>are *any* ASRock motherboards available to you?
if yes, pick the cheapest that's at least B650(E) Steel Legend and above (X870 Pro RS, X870 Steel Legend, X870E Nova etc). msi tomahawks are fine too I think
>b650 eagle
it will work without issue, it's just more of a budget board and I'd assume anyone building a PC with a 9800x3D might require more than what it offers
>but just doesn't have pcie 5.0
you've already spent $500 for the 9800x3D, but you'd be fine potentially kneecapping yourself over $50?
maybe it'll be useful, maybe it won't, who knows? but at least if it has any value you won't have to buy something else entirely if you end up sticking with AM5 for a while

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Anons I want a sleeper case. I can't find a store that makes one so I'll have to DIY. I'll probably have to vertical mount the GPU and perforate the lower side for GPU intake. Unless there an old school white case that I can perforate the from panel without ruining the whole aesthetic. Any suggestions?

>>103356355
Fuck it I am just getting a new monitor. This 1080p one has displayports that don't work at all, plus it is is kinda old anyways. I will just get this since it is going to be a secondary monitor

>>103356697
>vram is garbage
and they're the only one designing for the high-end market, regardless of why you think their vram is garbage. It's either them or nothing, so deal with it.

>>103356475
In the end I just bit the bullet and went with the Corsair RX140 Max
2x with the controller included ended up costing me £85, free shipping and 15% Black Friday discount
Hopefully the performance is on par with the price...

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>>103356697
nvidia software is worse than amd software as of 2024 and to the future 2025
intel xess is better than amd fsr
16gb vram is the new minimum since 6800xt had it 4 years ago

>>103356697
no one forces you to use amd software. the open source drivers are actually better.

>>103356530
https://www.testufo.com/

>>103356649
>>103356659
Ok thanks i'll flick it down a bit more for now then. I thought the chances of me having a bad stick were remote and it was probably this.
>>103356658
i've replaced the old sticks not just stuck more ram in the mobo
>>103356667
i'm a scrub and tinkering with timings sounds beyond my paygrade. I'll look into it later though thanks.
>>103356675
a cpu and gpu upgrade is on my agenda in the near future. I just bought this ram because it was on a nice deal.

>>103356393
nah, MSI put everything they got on sale, they are prepping for CES 500hz panels

>>103356628
Maybe late here, but check the clock speed of the RAM, your bios might still be configured for the old RAM, use the XMP profile of your RAM or just bring them down to the default 2133 Mhz DDR4 comes with.

>>103356736
Try 3200 auto timings.

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>>103356699
If the PSU is at the top cut some holes for the bottom for GPU intake. Use BeQuiet! Dark Rock TF2 or Juishark JF13K as CPU cooler. Add a spaccer for the side intake to reduce noise.

>>103356779
the thumbnail looks like a car upside down laying in snow.

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Should I buy a 7900xtx now or take the risk that ill be able to get my hands on the new gen stuff early next year?

>>103356803
Will they surpass the 7900XTX or will they release a sidegrade?

>>103356803
I think they're all sold out now.

>>103356803
I got the XFX mag air and its worth it.

>>103356803
7900XT/X is gonna be your best bet, since AMD themselves have said they arent doing high end graphics cards anymore and focusing on mid-range.

>>103356803
depends on how cheap you can get the 7900xtx for
over here it went on BF sale for like cad$1000 which is basically US$720

on a $ per FPS, RDNA3 was still the better value for a while when the 7900XTX came out, until all the cheap 6900/6950XTs were all gone
even when 7800XT came out, the 6800XT was still the better value card (and sometimes outright better performance in some cases because the 7800XT was really what the 7700XT was supposed to be)

How gay and retarded is it to buy a top of the line intel 14 series at this point? I'm using it almost exclusively for After Effects, Premiere, C4D and Photoshop and it beats AMD on nearly all those (according to Pugetbench).

>>103356832
Korean SC2 players destroyed 149ks in 2 weeks flat. You are incredibly stupid.

>>103356803
paper launch on AMD side is unlikely
you won't be able to get 5090 or 5080 though
5070 is likely in march, best bet
8800XT if we are veeeeery optimistic end of February
Intel presentation on Dec 3rd. Wait for them at least, maybe they will blow up mid range market before AMD.

>>103356832
>beats AMD
I mean, by what? 4%? that doesn't save you any time, but the risk of losing a work machine would set you back days.

>>103356832
if you are doing work load intensive stuff go for intel, gaming is AMD, both can cause housefires but AMD has gotten it down to the point where retards are at fault not the company.
>>103356856
>wont be able to get a 5080
is that just the FE cards or all brands?

>>103356832
You'll need to treat it with velvet gloves, and a powerful cooler will be a must.

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Which ones are the molex connectors?

>>103356881
four round things, just google molex picture

>>103356870
>is that just the FE cards or all brands?
we don't know. but if it runs on gddr7 won't be that wide spread and scalped to hell
expect them to go for $2k and 5090 for $3k.

I currently have an old Fractal arc midi R2 case. How poorly would it perform in terms of airflow compared to a new case if I were to put modern hardware in it? Stupid idea, y/n?

I've grown kinda fond of this box.

Do you recommend the 8500 ? Or i go with the 12400

>>103356911
if you remove all front hdd cages and put a second fan there, it will be fine
or at least remove one top cage.

>>103356832
If you get it for free, that's fine, but spending your actual monies on house fire seppuku device is pants on head retarded.

>>103356779
Thanks anon. I'm curious about this Juishark. I'll check reviews thanks again

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>>103356917
Neither, get a 7600 or 7600x.

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>>103356908
guess im stuck with my 4070ti super for a while

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>>103356911
Its atx, it'll fit right in. If you like fractals, there is fractal north. You might like it.

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>>103356928
It uses 2 120x15mm fans, you can replace them with some some premium fans and then let them spin slower. It uses M3 screws.