>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICEPost build list or current specs: https://pcpartpicker.com/Provide specific use casesState BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped>CASEmATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME, X50Dual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision, Antec C8>CPUGaming: 14600K, 9/7600X, 7800X3D-Budget: 12400, 12600K, 7500FWorkstation: 265K, 285K, 9950X3D*Avoid Asrock motherboards on AM5*On Raptor Lake microcode updates should be considered mandatory, avoid second-hand>COOLERAIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Lian Li Galahad II Lite, Corsair Nautilus RS, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (unhandy mounting solution)ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67TIM: MX-6, MX-4, Duronaut>RAM*Prices and therefore recommendations are for the time being in fluxDDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AM5), 6400CL32 (LGA 1700)Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget.), 2x48GB or 2x64GB (high-end)>SSD (Keep firmware updated)Budget: SN7100, NM790High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)Premium: SN8100https://borecraft.com/>GPUBudget: Arc B580, 9060xt 8gb (~$270)-Used: 2060 Super, 2070, 2080ti*8gb has become a major constraint even at 1080pMidrange: 5060ti 16GB, 5070-Used: 3080, 3080ti, 4070 (~$380)4k : 5070ti, 9070xt-Native: 5090>PSUBuying guide:https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/>MONITOR1080p: 24" 165/180hz, KTC H25X71440p: 27" 165/180hz IPS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED), Gigabyte MO27Q28G or LG 27GX700A-B (WOLED)4K: KTC M27P6 (miniLED)>OSActivate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt>CASE FANSMeta: Case with good stock PWM fansMidrange: Arctic P12 Pro, P14 Pro (5-pack, loud @ higher RPM)High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)
>News & RumorsRTX 50 Super: 2026 launch. 24GB VRAM for 5070 Ti & 5080 Super, 18GB for 5070 Super.Nova Lake 2026Dual 3d cache "9950X3D2">Product NoticePNY RTX 50 cards have QC issues (rattling fans, reports of 5070 & 5090 with blown capacitors)Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/>PSU Reviewshttps://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplieshttps://www.lttlabs.com/https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-suppliesFor tier-list enjoyers:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/>Storage Reviews https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.htmlhttps://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSDhttps://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews>Monitor Hunterhttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/>Omissions-9800X3D: ~10% improvement in gaming over a 7800X3D (which is still in production)-9060xt 16gb: Performance variable compared to 5060ti, consider cheaper second hand options like the 3080-9070: Currently more expensive than the 5070-"Futureproofing": Nvidia gpus in general have been aging better than Radeon regardless of vram or marginal differences in raw performanceLeave any constructive suggestions for edits to the op. Is slowly being worked on.Pic:>>107157035Previous:>>107154326
>>107159218>Retard doesn't understand what allocated vram isImagine being this mongoloid that doesnt understand that cards that have more vram allocate more
>buying a prebuilt is cheaper than building
>>107159258Are you scamming them on the ram/ssd prices?
if i give my wife my old windows 10 pc what are the odds she get virus'd by using it for years to come
>>107159258As long as you look past the bad case, firestarter PSU, qlc SSD, jedec ram, cheap cooler (CPU & GPU) and bottom barrel motherboard it's cheaper
No point in buying a dedicated GPU when the 8700G exists.
>>107159265
9070xt vs 5070ti
>>107159172Finally finished my build tonight AMD R9, 9950X 3D running a 5.6 GHz Overclock, with a Raspberry Pi air quality monitor inside of it.The stable overclock took a lot of time to set up. But it can completely solve a chess game using Stockfish 17.1, from move 1, in 4 mins 38 seconds, which is very fast. Hopefully, this CPU stays competitive for a few years. The computer itself is mainly used for extremely high speed microcontroller communication, which is why it needs such a high OC. It's able to drive read 7500hz CPU interrupts, so I'm very happy with it.
>>107159258have fun with that cheap and unreliable mobo and fans
>>107159297to much rgb
>ram prices are available on amazon againgrab while you can
>>107159258They all come with shartdows 11 tho.
>>107159343I fucking love RGB and don't understand the hate. I'm going to put RGB strips and an image projector on the glass eventually too.
>>107159297>fish tank glass pc>rgbt Gay broccoli head shit but nice components, I guess.
>>107159358Oh shit, my pcpartlist updated time to grab that ram>FREE delivery 4 February - 20 May, 2026>Usually dispatched within 3 to 7 months
>>107159376it cuases peripheral vision distractionI want to see whats going on on my screen, not the shimmering lights in my case that serve no purpose other than to "look cool"but you do you.
>want to build a sff pc with leftover i7 9700k and 2080>panic at the rabbit hole of finding a case, mobo and psu that all fit in the box with my main componentsSuffering
>>1071593583 builds in the last 8 months. All 3, the ram I bought jumped massively. 2 DDR5 sets jumped $100ea, and the DDR4 jumped from $64 to $140.
>>107159297put that case on the floor under the desk where it belongs and turn all of those RGB OFF
>>107159373what else do you use besides windows? why would you use linux on a high end system?
Two more weeks until black friday CPU deals and the 9800X3D drops to $350
>>107159423limux works fine, what problems are you having?
>>107159431I'd want to play actual games
>>107159432Such as?
What is the Best $100-$125 ATX case with I/O on the top of the case
>>107159435the online ones all the discord zoomers play
>>107159402kekbro there is a fucking screen in my case that I look at every 3 mins, I absolutely do not give a shit about whatever pussy thing you are complaining about
>>107159436yes
>>107159421then how am I going to check the air quality RETARD? think for a moment before you say retarded shit
>>107159373>not wiping and installing win10 iot ltscIshiggidydiggity
Just remember many stores are on extended Holiday return windows right now so you may as well buy that $400 ram. Amazon will give you up to the end of January to return it if it turns out you don't actually need it or the prices drop (the prices will NOT drop).
>>107159451um with your lungs? like a normal person? OH NOOOO THE CO2 NUMBER TOO BIG THE KIKES ARE GASSING ME
>>107159447>bro there is a fucking screen in my case that I look at every 3 minswhy?>whatever pussy thing you are complaining aboutyeah we can tellyou're a real tough guy.try reading yeah? it will help you keep up with whats actually going on in a conversation
>>107159297What the is the point of putting a screen inside of your case? That's the stupidest thing I've ever seen. Especially since thats a touch screen.
>>107159447congrats on being retarded and putting an lcd in your case? idk
>>107159297>no anime figs>no anime stickers>no anime screenswhat a waste ngmi
brb i'm gonna go stick my tablet in front of my window
>Anon says last thread to look at used 4090 prices>They're 3000 maple bucks used>I paid 2300 for mine almost 3 years agoWhat the actual fuck? I'm almost tempted to try and sell mine, then pay 300 dollars for a 5090, new.
>>107159485That's been the case since January. The only time they were lower was around this time last year when some genuine retards sold their 4090s for $1000 on facebook to get 5090 money.
>>107159485>>I paid 2300 for mine almost 3 years agoabout the same on ebay right now
>>107158984please help T.T
>>107159505But why? I mean it's a good card, don't get me wrong, but I don't understand why they're so close to 5090 prices? Surely it's just better to get a 5090 at that point, right? Or are 5090s crap somehow? I do appreciate how cool the 4090 runs. Maybe the 5090 has thermal issues?
>>107159297>>107159402>>107159465congrats on the build btw anon. really
>>107159275Depends on your wife’s ability to browse the web safely.
>>107159514>go to online store>sort by price lowest>scroll down until you find a board you likeIt's not complicated.
>>107159508Maple dollars, dude. Canadian money. I looked at the sold listings and 95% of them are all 3000+ dollars used. The PNY models are around 2800 dollars.
>>107159514other anon is right, there's no special one. Just find a good deal on one. If you need more m.2 slots, buy one with more and the same for other features
CPU motherboard and RAM each costing $200 for basic shit is fucking insane these bastards want me spending $2000 on mid range shit I won't do it
>>107159515It has to do with Chinese being able to mod them up to make 48 gb version of them for AI shit, i imagine the 5090 uses too much power so it cant be modded
>>107159531I gotchado you really want a 500 series card that bad?why?
>>107159514X670E Strix-E, MSI Carbon is more affordable in the US.
>>107159547forgot the link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZgQp-WDebU
This look like a good mobo? will it work right outta the box with a 9600x?
Any monitor companies I should avoid?
>>107159575It doesn't matter, every am5 board has bios flash.Yes the vrm can run a 6 core. It can run a 16-core.
>>107159575youll need a bios flash but im sure you can find a b850m mobo around that price
>>107159597the new brands you have never heard of.
>>107159606>>107159598so I might need to update it....are b850m mobos already updated for the 9600x
>>107159636You'll want to update the b850 too, it doesn't make any difference. Put the correctly named bios file on the fat32 usb stick and press the button. Wait until the light stops flashing. Congratulations you updated the bios.
>>107159485The 5090 is probably the most indian videocard nvidia has ever made.
>>107159636duh but if a b650m motherboard is enough for you you dont need to go for a b850m , its pretty easy , watch a tutorial on youtube about it youll only need to plug in your psu cables to your motherboard and insert the bios flash to the designated port , thats all
>>107159529>>107159535yes but pcpartpicker just shows basics, i have to go to each ones manual to check PCIE lane block diagram, VRMs, etc. there are so many options this is very overwhelming. Is there anything I can do to filter it more quickly? I have a nice spread sheet of AM5 boards, but its such a cluster fuck of information and impossible to filter
>>107159665Makes sense, Indian housewives owning over 10% of the world’s physical gold reserves means they’re just about the only ones who can afford 5090’s.
>Pascal STILL not moved to legacy branchHow much longer do I have to wait?
https://www.walmart.com/ip/CyberPowerPC-Gamer-Supreme-Gaming-Desktop-AMD-Ryzen-7-9800X3D-32GB-NVIDIA-GeForce-RTX-4070-Ti-Super-16GB-2TB-SSD-Black-SLC7700WST/13566059702If I'm tired of putting PC parts together is this a decent purchase?
>>107159653>>107159666yeah I looked it up it's easy af but kinda a pain in the ass
>>107159689Yes
>>107159692we did it to a bro of mine , a gigabyte gaming ax v2 b650 , not really you just stick the flash in and wait for it to do its own job , i think you have a little bit of anxiety due to it being your first time , there is no worst case scenario in this
>>107159689no
Is contrast the sole reason why you would go for VA over IPS? I heard it technically has higher response time too, but black smearing kinda negates that
>>107159735idk the last gens are kinda eliminating the black smearing problem , im planning to buy the AOC's recent 2k monitor i forgot its name , monitors unboxing has a vid about it
>>107159549I don't, and I'm perfectly happy with my 4090 and its massive fucking heatsink. But I won't deny, a 5090 for 300 bucks is tempting.
>4090 owners be like
>>107159829At least they'll get a nice settlement.
>>107159297Why didn't you just get the screen that comes with that case? Its practically the only reason that case exists
>>107159829It sucks man I'm locked to a 9070xt because all Nvidia shits use a melting connector
>>107159704>>107159715th-thanks
>>107159689>If I'm tired of putting PC parts togetherYou might have lyme's disease.
>>107159829Is the joke that it's not seated right? I push the shit out of my cables and worry I might break something, but it's SEATED.
>Got a nice GPU>Getting a nice case>Want to get a riser to show it off.>Would require moving fans.>Worse cooling.>I'm really not going to be staring at at the side of my computer case that much.>But it does look cool...
>The notion of technodiversity is clearly linked to a cluster of other concepts. Daniel Birnbaum.Do you agree?
>>107159888Take a photo of it and set it as your desktop background
>>107159926Then take the riser out?
>you're not supposed to build AMD you dork!
>>107159963intel is super cheap rn, not that I'd recommend it, but still...
>>107159873The joke is that even if you seat it right, it might burn anytime in the 3 years you're using it.
>>107160101You're too stupid to ever know why.
>he thought his AI waifu was freepay up
>>107159172pairing that case with a keyboard that has no numpad is absolutely fucking disgraceful
>>107160218there will be a glut of memory on the market as soon as everyone realises that you need industrial quantities of it to do anything useful
So what's the consensus on the Rx 9070 XT? I play at 1440p. What's the equivalent nvidia card? I really wanted to wait for a 24gb AMD card or for Nvidia to get their heads out of their fucking asses but the whole RAM situation has got me spooked. 9070 XTs are near or at MSRP and I could just walk into Microcenter tomorrow and get one.
>>107160306About 5% worse on average than the 5070TiRising to 15% with Raytracing.
>>107160155>Stage 2: anger
Can you get away with a PBO -30 on any 9800x3d or do you have to be lucky?Also 900mV on 5090 yes or no?
I don't have to worry about HDD drives going up, right? I was thinking of getting an 8tb Toshiba one (X300), though, apparently they're kind of noisy. Not sure what the threshold for noisy is, I have a Fractal Torrent and while I wouldn't describe it as noisy, it's definitely not quiet. Anyways, I was thinking of waiting until Black Friday to get one.
>>107160548You gotta be lucky to do -30. And anyway -10 on a golden sample would let it run with less voltage and power than -20 on a crap sample so the offset doesn't mean much900mv is pretty low. If you get an average/leaky sample 950mv will let it boost much higher. If you got a less leaky sample then 900mv would be good
>>107160548As the other guy said, the setting isn't some fixed value that is being changed, it varies somewhat as the CPU automatically tries to balance some values to stay stable. I use a conservative -15 and that's really good enough for me. As long as it lets the AIO handle it on shader compilation that is sufficient, same for you.
>>107160604>>107160640Ok ok interesting.Thanks.
My case came with only one out of two 3.5" trays, should I go complain to the manufacturer or amazon?
Bought a 500 GB sata 2.5" ssd by verbatim (the cheapest one I could find) and it failed after 500 hours. Now I need a new one, and I can't decide between just buying whatever like I did before and pray this one will be alright, or buy from some reputable company. Any recommendations?
>>107160906there are some sites out there with SSD recommendations, If your storing any data you care about id 100% suggest getting something that isnt a gamble. but thats just me.(I used to run all my drives into the ground with no back ups and have lost tons of stuff, its no fun)
case only has one 3.5" and one 2.5" slot, and i need a bigger storage drive.i was thinking of getting a 20tb seagate barracuda for main storage then a 2tb ssd as a backup for important stuff and just sync the dir from hdd to ssd on an interval
>>107160906theres a reason everyone buys the trusted samsung ssds
>>107160583https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/hdds/ai-triggers-hard-drive-shortage-amidst-dram-squeeze-enterprise-hard-drives-on-backorder-by-2-years-as-hyperscalers-switch-to-qlc-ssds
>>107160906Crucial and Western Digital are the ones I buy.Their MX500 and WD Red are nice. I have 25k+ hours on WD Red as my boot drive in my server and it's still 99% healthy.If you want it for storage get something a bit better.
>>107159172actual retro cases were like 30-40L, not 55L like that trash
>>107161074stop hoarding porn and anime
>get new monitor>use display port cable>get these weird lines and unsuable monitorDo I seriously have to go back to the store and replace it? The cable works fine with my other monitor
>>107161758That looks like a GPU problem, not a monitor problem.Do you have other stuff you can plug in to the new monitor to test it out? Like a game console or something?
>>107161457yeah but it looks coolanyone got an id on it?
>>107161815https://www.silverstonetek.com/en/product/info/computer-chassis/flp02/
>>107161758some monitors dont work right when they're too coldtry to warm it up and see what happens
>>107161822grandpa, that hasn't been a thing in yearsgo back to bed
>>107161797Just tried HDMI with the Xbox One X, still the linesIt's OVER
What's the difference between cheap $150 motherboards and $600 ones?Is it just more complete features like wifi+bluetooth and other shit normal people won't need?
>>107161867Shit monitor, return it and get a new one.
>>107161888Pretty much.First think to look at is how many PCIe lanes it has. More = more expensive. Most consumers only use 1 for their GPU. A video capture card could be plugged in USB-C instead. Sound cards aren't a thing anymore and people use a DAC, basically an external sound card. Network cards are only used if you have a fast network. Unless you have 10Gb/s internet or have 10Gb/s home network, you don't need one.Second, look at the RAM slots. 4 RAM slots are default but you can save more money by going for 2 only. And again, most people only ever use 2 RAM slots.Third, look at the heat sinks. Big heat sinks = more money. They help when you overclock. If you don't plan on overclocking then you don't need big heat sinks, even though they look cool.Fourth, wifi. If you need one then get one, if not then don't. I personally just get one with Wifi because to add wifi you either have to use a wifi card or a USB dongle or some sort.
>>107161888oversized vrm for oc more pcie 5 lanes for those pcie 5 nvme ssds, mostly creators who work with 4k video files need thosebetter cosmetics? these days they seem to say "usb 4" is like a major selling point for higher end mobos for whatever reason
>>107161888$150https://pcpartpicker.com/product/9xYfrH/gigabyte-b850-gaming-x-wifi6e-atx-am5-motherboard-b850-gaming-x-wifi6e- pretty crappy rear io (2.5gb ethernet, ps/2 port, minimal usb A ports, single usb C)- average VRM (12 stage 60A drmos)- no postcode- 6 layer pcb$650https://pcpartpicker.com/product/brLp99/gigabyte-x870e-aorus-master-x3d-ice-atx-am5-motherboard-x870e-a-master-x-ice- better rear io (more usb A ports, 4x usb C, 2.5g + 5g dual ethernet, fancy bios flash and clear cmos buttons, power and reset buttons)- insane VRM (18 stage 110A sps)- postcode- 8 layer pcbNow I don't think $650 motherboards are worth it at all but they do have some obvious advantages over $150 boards. It's when you compare $650 to $300 that it becomes really difficult to tell the difference.
>>107161994>- postcodewhats so expensive about that anywayhexadecimal leds that cost tens of cents?wat
>>107162016Yea they should be on every board but the manufacturers only put them on mid range or high end boards... Although check outhttps://pcpartpicker.com/product/fKZWGX/msi-mpg-b850-edge-ti-wifi-atx-am5-motherboard-mpg-b850-edge-ti-wifi$200 with a postcode and just a generally great board.
>>107161821ty. turbo button is a nice touch
>>107161758Check refresh rate shit.I had a monitor that would do that shit above 140hz, but function absolutely fine below it.
>>107162037All boards have debug codes. Some use LED and some still use sound. Get a cheap motherboard -> speaker adapter and you'll still get the beep codes.
I'm considering buying an intel laptop. Are 12th and 13th gen cpus affected with that voltage issue? Also could someone give me a qrd on cuck cores?
>>107162245Not on laptop CPUs.
>>107162250great, thanks
Why can hardware manufacturers put 2k zone mini leds into 18 inch laptops but 27 inch monitors are still stuck with 1k zones
I'm looking for a new LGA1700 motherboard, which are the most reliable? I'm currently using Rog Strix B760-A but it's happened second time in a month that I couldn't start my PC and the green aura light (NOT diagnostic LED) was blinking weirdly. I disabled the 5V USB S5 power, maybe the controller is glitching, or maybe the power button contacts are the problem (they are loose) but I'm afraid it could be something more serious.
Stupid intrusive thoughts tell me to upgrade from an overpriced x870e hero board to the even more overpriced extreme cause of the revised q release slim even though I barely see a reason to ever remove the GPU much.
>>107162310>intrusive thoughts tell you to an heroDON'T DO IT ANON
>>107162310you should buy Rtx Pro 6000 Blackwell 96gb to run games entirely in vram
>>107162360That's a bit too expensive for my taste even if it's better than the 5090 I have.
>>107162413look at it as an investmentai demand for vram goes up, you sell the gpu to chinks for 80% of the purchase price when 6090 releases
>>107160548I don't believe any 9800x3d is stable at -30co all core. you almost always need to combine it with curve shaper to prevent idle crashes or clock stretching.
Romanian anon that was building here, all parts came
>>107162565cool you're all set for linux
>>107162565okay man good luck with the building, its almost there
something about putting AM4/5 CPUs into their socket is pretty unsatisfying
>>107162565>amdsend it back
>>107162628Because it doesn't feel like you're killing the cpu when you close the latch?
>>107162565Have fun with your legos Anon.
>>107159861That's soulless. I wanted to use my own screen.
>>107162578I'm putting cachy os on it>>107162687>>107162617Thanks anons
>>107162659AM5 sockets require anxiety inducing levels of tension on the latch though.
>>107162310they're just gonna refresh the boards and release better ones in like 7-9 months when zen6 launches, you know
>>107162628>t. lga1700 enjoyerworst socket i've used, needs WAY too much force
>>107160306>9070 XTs are near or at MSRPThat's clearly good value. 9070 XT at MSRP undercuts the 5070 ti by a lot for similar performance. That's for gaymen of course, for AI and productivity it's still Nvidia.
What's the alternative for SOIC-8 clips? They break after trying multiple tries.
>>107159172sovl, where can I get modern retro cases? and is there a good retro looking mouse?
>>107162949>soi clipsno wonder they break
>>107159172any keyboard recommendations under 100
>>107163065whatever you do avoid asus
>>107163065whatever mechanical keyboard with numpad
>>107163082I dont understand how peoples physiology works who prefer to haev a numpadit just 100% intercepts the area I want to use for my mousepad
>>107163065get any mechanical with any brand just research the switch types and see which one you likeunless you are looking for a hall effect like wooting it quite literally does not matter which brand you go for
>>107162845This is why I wrote intrusive thoughts as my system works fine. It's really just the q release slim and that's not an issue as long as I don't remove the GPU frequently
Have any stores even started sales? Nothing is on sale.
>RX 480 not on the x870E QVL list is it gonna work???
>>107163096absolutely based as FUCKdon't let numpad trannies mind control you into thinking they are good I recommend Epomaker 75 or if you want TLK, Keychron K8
>>107163082kill yourself tranny
>>107163065I have a wooting 80he but it seems rather overpriced compared to its competitors but I can't complain. If you don't mind the price it's good.
>this motherboard supports only Windows 1164-bit operating system.lol what the fuck
The amount of people asking for help with builds for 800$ is crazy.Anything below 1100 w/o the monitor is almost literally a non starterShit sucks
>>107163096Move your keyboard further left
>>107163412ryzen 5 5500 plus a 5060 should fit into that budget. Most of the people that need to ask you for help would be fine with a build like that
I bought two of these paperweights last year. The first was basically dead on arrival, the second failed after 7 months.What should I be buying instead for NAS/HTPC?
>>107163445Get a replacement. If it's new then it's usually 3-5 years warranty.All HDDs are pretty much the same. Just buy the cheapest CMR drive at the moment.
>>107163441the mindset of a tranny everyoneyou MUST have a useless hunk of shit on your desk that you never use, for no reason, that inconveniences you because its "productive."
>>107163511What happens when you need to type numbers? Do you go index finger pecking on the top row?
>>107163511I use my numpad a lot. I'm not going to buy a separate numpad that I'm just going to leave plugged in my desk when I can just buy a 100% keyboard.Get a bigger desk and you'll see that having a 100% keyboard isn't a problem. Also up your mouse sensitivity. If you need your whole desk to move the fucking mouse then you have a problem.
>>107163522no, personally I use a mod numpad layer. That way, my hand never leaves the home row.
>>107163522they literally do lmao
>>107163560sounds complicated. just use the numpad.
>>107163556if you actually use a numpad its fine. For you, having a keyboard take up mouse space is a worthwhile tradeoff. but 99% of people don't use a numpad, and suggesting a full keyboard to normal people is actually diabolical
>>107163444Yeah i guess they would, but sucks recommending am4
>>107159172>Peach 8BitDoWhen did you start taking Estrogen tranny?>Sees the actual pills Guh
>>107163570Its not complicated, its actually simpler and quicker than using a numpad
People actually have problem with mouse space when using a full keyboard?Moving my mouse from left to right across two monitors is less than 10cm or 4 inches. The fuck? How small is your desk?
>>107163579it also sucks recommending an 8gb gpu but there is nothing we can do. Why they made a 8gb 60 class card is beyond me
>>107163594It's simple really.
I'm buying a 4050 laptop, would you guys spend 60-70 bucks extra to get an i7 13620h instead of 12500h?
>>107163611laptop performance comes down to the specified power limit and cooling system, the specific cpu model makes very little difference
Is this the final boss of the poverty tier monitor challenge?270€ 27" 160hz IPS...... 4K
When trying to calculate amps or powerdraw, should I just use what my PSU is rated or my GPU?
>>107163652I'm looking at the exact same model of a laptop (gigabyte g5). I can't find any benchmarks where they compare those two cpus
>>107163678your components are what pulls the power. the power supply simply provides it (or explodes).
why no ITX cases in the OP
>>107163683the "i7" has 2 extra cores, that's 50% more cores than the 12500h.
>>107163712it also has less cuck cores.
>>107163692they're for people who know better anyway
>>107163594once you free yourself with small keyboard and a large mousepad, you will discover how suffocating it is the point at with only 4 inches of space
>>107163852I have a 96" desk. Even if I turn down my mouse sensitivity I will never run out of desk space.
Does anyone have a video of a black person putting a cpu into a computer?
>>107164105Namefags GTFO
Motherboard naming confuses me>ATX Asus TUF Gaming B850-Plus>ATX Asus TUF Gaming B850-EE what?
>>107164149The E stands for ExtremeNot kidding btw
>>107163992god damn, mother FUCKERits not about DESK SPACEits about having ROOM FOR YOU FUCKING MOUSE in PROPORTIONto your FUCKING ARMSyour ARMS DONT HAVE TO DANGLE OUT OF YOUR BODY LIKE NOODLES TRYING TO FLY WHENEVER YOU USE A MOUSEyou can litteraly reclaim 5 inches of arm space, with a TLK keyboard
>>107164149>ATXThe size of the motherboard.>AsusThe brand selling it.>TUFThe series. Asus has TUF, Prime and Strix. Although I don't think they have Strix motherboards and only goes up to Prime. The difference is features in each one. TUF is their normie boards for average consoomers. Prime is for advanced stuff, things like more PCIe and thicker heatsinks. Strix is for enthusiasts.>B850The socket.>Plus/EEach series has different tiers in them. E is their lower stuff while Prime is more premium features.
>>107164186lolyou either have short arms or your posture is fucked. sit properly in front of a desk and you'll notice how much your arm can move.
3060 BOYS WE STILL HERE KING OF THE WORLD
NAND manufacturing capacity for 2026 is fully booked.These flash storage manufacturers don't want to expand production facilities because they were burned badly post-COVID demand crashes.Black Friday waitfags are playing a dangerous game.Especially the ones who are waiting™ for sales on SSDs with DRAM.https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ssds/phison-ceo-confirms-nand-prices-have-more-than-doubled-and-will-continue-to-rise-all-2026-production-already-sold-out-ssds-facing-pricing-apocalypse-throughout-2027
Hi, black person here, which is the best Intel cpu for gaming?
>>107163594>People actually have problem with mouse space when using a full keyboard?I do, but by full keyboard I mean an 88 key digital piano. It takes up quite a lot of desk space 2bh.
>>107164255I get this feeling that upgrading earlier this year was the right move even if my 50 card was overpriced
>>107159195> RTX 50 Super: 2026 launchOnly in Q3. Enjoy waitfagging.
>>107159258If you buy cheap you buy twice.
>>107164255>Black Friday waitfags are playing a dangerous game.>Especially the ones who are waiting™ for sales on SSDs with DRAM.I know I ambut it's just TWO MORE WEEKSit'll all be fine in TWO MORE WEEKS I just need to wait TWO MORE WEEKS
I'LL KEEP SCREAMING ITBUILD YOUR PC NOW BUILD YOUR PC NOW DO NOT WAIT DO NOT FUCKING WAIT THERE IS AN APOCALYPSE COMING THE RAM PRICES WERE ONLY THE HARBINGERDON'T YOU GET IT RAM IS 2X-3X THE PRICE FUCKING RAM HELL IS COMINGBUILD YOUR PC NOW
>>107164167>>107164221So it's E for extremely shit ?
>>107164287My digital piano is beside me, I had to put the legs back because at first I had it on those keyboard trays, but a longer one. I didn't like it since it was too close to my knees. Had to put back the legs on it.
These niggas go so much cash they are making custom kicks now
>>107164255I'm not planning to rebuild until the RTX 6070 Ti or maybe 6070 TI Super hit MSRP. Who knows what the new normal will be by then
>>107164347Holiday sales have already started in some retailers (with extended refunds).The procurement officers at these companies already know there will be a supply crunch next year.
>Get some used RAM>Decide to test one stick at a time in the same slot>First one works>Second one does notGod fucking dammit. What can I do to exhaust all options before confirming the RAM doesn't work?
>>107164434If the stick can't even train properly at base JEDEC specs, it's hopeless.
>pcpartpicker list insreaded again >wtf why>this time it was the ssd t-two more weeks
>>107164434You didn't seat it all the way.
>>107164457>insreaded
Need help, can't figure out what speed my memory is actually running at. I set Expo in my bios and in some sections it says it is 6000 but on the main page that shows when you enter the bios there is a section that mentions ram and shows it at 4800. So I am confused now and not sure if I actually did it right or not?
>>107164482iff you have access to windows operating sytem it's easy to check
>>107164496How?
>monitor from ebay arrived damagedJUST
>>107164255I have no choice but to wait.
>>107164503HWiNFO
>>107164503task manager
>>107164482It says EXPO: [Enabled], so the 6000MT/s profile is on.Look at the "DRAM" section of your system information column; it says "Speed: 6000MT/s""Memory Info" also says 6000MT/sThe 4800MT/s @ A2 & B2 are just base speed descriptions for those memory modules.
>>107164482SPEED 6000MT/sWHAT IS THE ISSUE?
Matx would be perfect if it wasn't loud and trash
fuck itBF 360 Flow it is I'm going all out
>>107164512>>107164520I'm too retarded to understand what hwinfo is telling me, I was going to ask about that another time. But I guess I did it right since task manager says 6000.
Currently my pc has 6 ssd's. 2 Samsung's, 2 Kioxia's and 2 Intel's. I have room for 2 more Sata SSD's. What brand they should be (my OCD demands them to be the same brand but they cannot be Samsung, Kioxia or Intel)
It's time to accept you will pay $200/£200/200€ for 35GB RAM
>>107164597Samsung 870 EVO is still one of the best SATA SSDs, prices have gone up though.I wouldn't buy an Intel SSD, if you can even find one. Intel sold their SSD business to SK Hynix in Dec. 2021 (now operates as Solidigm).
>>107164622>35GB RAM
>>107164648the 3 extra is the tip
>>107164597>my OCD demands them to be the same brand but they cannot be Samsung, Kioxia or IntelCrucial MX500, that drive utility software bloat though.
>>107164462I tried that, unfortunately. I put the first stick in a slot, and it worked no problem. I removed the first stick, and put the second stick in the exact same slot, the exact same way, and it wouldn't work. Wouldn't even boot. My motherboard light flashed orange for a RAM problem, then red for a CPU problem. The first stick initially flashed orange for a CPU problem, then flashed white and I got some kind of boot screen informing me my memory had changed and it gave me the option of either continuing as normal, or going into settings. But like I said, with the probably faulty stick, it won't even boot.I even tested the bad ram in another slot I know for sure works. Still won't boot.
do i need a pwm watercooling pump if i want it to turn off when the pc goes into sleep or does a vario that only has a power connector also do that?
>>107164687return the ram and get your refund
>>107164639I said the SSD's cannot be Intel, Kioxia, or Samsung, because then it would ruin the balance of having 2 of each SSD brand. So Samsung won't do.
>>107164579DDR = dual data rate3000 x 2 = 6000
>>107164747It's a retarded limitation considering the cost of a 4TB 870 EVO vs a 2TB MX500.
I'm trying to save on power so I'd like to build a PC without a GPU. What's the minimum CPU I should look into for an iGPU for running android emulators and mobile games?
>>107164839265k, maybe 245k
>>1071648398700G, But get A Strix Max CPU if you want the good shit
>>107164401I wonder if the 50 super is supposedly still releasing but delayed to Q3 later next year will the 60 series be then mid or end of 2027?
Should I get poorfag version of 5090?From what I understand the headroom is quite low already so overclock is not that useful?
RTX 5070ti Ayysus Prime or GAANward Phoenix-S ?
>>107164961Asus has a dual bios
GRIM 3060 BOYS WE UP
>>107164961Either is fine if you OC + undervolt it; it would probably draw around 250~270W power while retaining stock performance.
>>107164943The 12V2x6 you can get everywhere are designed for 600w but the spec goes up to 9.5 ampere so more is possible but for this you'd need nearly perfectly balanced pins with zero headroom for errors. You can be happy if 600W isn't melting our connector already.
>>107164992pls dont wake up the nvidianigger yetlast thread he was crying that anons are not listening to the right goytuber, but if you dare to buy amd you got brainwashed by goytubers into doing bad purchases
Heya, I need upgrades and these are the only parts I'd really keep.I'm from germany and my budget is 1k.Anyone got any advice on what to put in?https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KVCQNP
>>107165031>8GBGRIMSELL THAT SHIT
>>107164973>>107165002Thanks guys added the Asus to my cart it was like a $50 difference with the Gainward being more expensive
>>107165031Here is something to start with: you may have to learn how to use the BIOS Flashback feature.https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/YCDVMCThat 6400MT/s XMP kit is the more affordable one you can buy atm.You need to downclock the EXPO/XMP memory speed to 6000MT/s and enter generic CL30 primary timings like tCAS 30 - tRCD 40 - tRP 40, tRC can be left as auto.That ProArt wood case appears to be discounted; it includes 160mm fans for the front.I'd pick either that or the Fractal Epoch. The Epoch has good Momentum fans.https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/Q3WmP6/fractal-design-epoch-atx-mid-tower-case-fd-c-epo1a-01
>>107165031>>107165252Remove the Arctic P14 Pro fans from that list, it was added when I picked a different case suggestion.You won't need 5x P14 Pros with the ProArt or the Epoch case.
will the iGPU of the 9800x3d perform better than a gtx1070?
>>107165301Hell no. https://lanoc.org/review/cpus/amd-ryzen-9-9950x3d?start=3
>store offering cpu/mobo bundles with NO RAMwhat the hell
>>107165301go buy a steam deck for your genshit gacha garbage
>>107165358they're only comparing cpus>>107165381I'm just curious
>>107165428it clearly lists the scores. go download the Google app and type 1070 forestrike/time spy score into it. this will launch a Search on the internet. Very clever technology.
A simpler time when DRAM & SSDs were more affordable.
>>107160548lad, I want to formally announce to you that I successfully pushed CO even lower after disabling the iGPU
Seagate or wd for 2tb hdd?
>>107165496I'd just make sure they're CMR drives.
I've got two 1Tb NVME drives, and another free M2 slot (as well as space for standard HDDs). Should I go for a 2TB NVME drive (240), or an 8Tb Toshiba X300(260 for standard, 300 for the pro version)? Frankly I'm leaning towards the HDD because I feel that 2Tb is enough space to store all the programs and frequent files I use.
>>107165564watch out buddy better check adding those extra drives don't turn your x16 slot into x8
>>107165564buy everything it won't be available next year at all
>>107165623Wait really? Is there something I should look for in my motherboard manual to see if adding another M2 slot will downgrade my x16 slot? I wouldn't have to worry about that by hooking up a HDD to a SATA port, right?
>>107165732>Is there something I should look for in my motherboard manual to see if adding another M2 slot will downgrade my x16 slot?>When M.2_3 & M.2_4 are occupied PCIEX16(G5) will run x8 only.yes broyes sata should avoid that. But some M.2 slots will also disable Sata ports. Aren't motherboards fun.
>>107165732Check your mainboards manual. My ASSUS x870e board for example mentions this in the storage section>When both PCIEX16_1 and PCIEX16_2 are in use, they will each run in x8 mode.>When M.2_2 is enabled, but M.2_3 is not in use, PCIEX16_1 will run in x8 mode and PCIEX16_2 will be disabled.>When M.2_3 is enabled, but M.2_2 is not in use, PCIEX16_1 will run in x8 mode and PCIEX16_2 will run in x4 mode.>When both M.2_2 and M.2_3 are enabled, PCIEX16_1 will run in x8 mode and PCIEX16_2 will be disabled.
>prices going up>fomo increasing>should I have blow all my money just buying a 5090 build and been set for now or not>no time for using it anyway>don't even need to play anything>undecided which display to buy with it anyway>fomo'd into blowing 6k+ for what
>>107165771AMD needs to pay for this faggotry
>>107165787the x870e boards have dedicated usb 4.0 which eats four lanes. Some cheaper chipset might not have this issue.
just bought everything, fuck it
trying to decide between 9070xt and 5070ti, any anons care to weigh in? Are nvidia cards still being shipped with missing rops? Are 12vhpwr connectors still burning up cards? I get theres alot of ironic fanboying for both sides, but just want a genuine answer on these two options :(
>>107165805The correct call. Prices aren't dropping any time soon, years in fact.
>>107162565happy building, brah>>107165645SHIT>>107163445I swear by surveillance drives. New spinners can prove to be duds sometimes, so refund if possible>>107159423you use Loonix if you like control
>>107165815yeah consumer hardware looks fucked, I don't see how it gets better from here
>>107163666I have never seen this one before and it's available in my local amazone, checked price and it's even cheaper than the one I shilled before which is the gigabyte gs27uthe more you know
>Crypto>Pandemic>Tariffs >AI THE HAPPENINGS WILL NOT STOPTHE LINE MUST GO UP
>>107163570>just use the numpadI will not inconvenience my posture for the off case where I need to type in more than three digits
>>107164232>>107164186>>107163992>>107163852>>107163594This is kinda related, on the topic of using mouse/keyboard and arm spaceyesterday I was researching the meme that is arm rests as I am researching buying a new chair and how vital the point is of having adjustable armrests so you can line up the armrests to the table while being as close as possible, opposed to just lowering themThere seems to be no clear consensus but seeing as this ergo guy https://youtu.be/uZqVPBeOhzAalong with all pro gamers don't use arm rests because it limits arm movement working "actively"can we safely conclude that armrests are a meme on desk chairs if using a desk actively? outside of resting on themmaybe this makes the hm embody buyable after all then if I'm not gonna use the arm reststhoughts and opinions on the armrest question?at this point I'm thinking I will save up even more and buy an even more expensive chair than the hm later on, more on that later
>>107165877just dlss and framegen youre purchases goy
>>107165844>I don't see how it gets better from hereOh that's easy. When all of this inevitably implodes and we get into the worst recession ever seen by mankind, hardware will be cheap as fuck. Unfortunately, everything else will be far too expensive.
Why on God's green earth have they delayed my beloved 5080 super, WHY..
>>107165909was the super not gonna have more sm count? in which case you just want more vram, in which case you already should have bought a 5090
>>107165934Better perf too, allegedly
>>107165903>implosioncould be who knows how many years though, and my build is 8 years oldor surprisingly this is actually the AGI timeline in which case I expect to die horriblyeither way buying now seems to be the best option
>>107164992Im keeping my 3060TI until>it catches fire>i find a better gpu in the ground on the way to work>it literally refuses to launch a game i want to playFuck njewdia fuck aylmd and fuck gpus costing half of the budget for a full rig
>>107165889>line up the armrests to the table while being as close as possible, opposed to just lowering themswap left and right.picrel looks retarded but it's super comfy for sitting as close to desk as possible while leaning very slightly backwards and having elbows on armrests at 90 degrees
>>107166039why is the stickman fuckign the chair from behind
>need another table urgently>do research about standing desk, chairs, everything>have to spend way to much money which I don't care about doing right now>burn out mentally due to decision fatiguefuck it I'm buying a 35€ folding table for now and will continue using kitchen chairs, I don't care>>107166039>swap left and right.don't get what you mean>picrel looks retarded but it's super comfy for sitting as close to desk as possible while leaning very slightly backwards and having elbows on armrests at 90 degreesyou have to have armrests that go back long enoughbut did you watch the french ergonomitrist?
>>107165812Those connectors are only burning up the 5090 and 5080 cards. 5070ti is fine.I am also in the same dilemma as you, trying not to panic buy. I've only ever had nvidia cards so I'm having a hard time justifying the 9070xt but 5070ti seems like such a shit fucking deal at its price where as the 9070xt seems like an okay price nowadays but also not the level of power and longevity I want in a card in the first placr and I'm scared I won't be able to recoup the money spent on a 9070xt if I wanted to sell to upgrade.
What did MSI mean by this?
>>107165031Something like this maybehttps://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/6nR9b2Then the next step would be replacing the 3060 for a current gen card.Consider a more modern motherboard if you want, i also massively overshoot with the PSU but just in case you end up trying to slot a 5080 there in a few months or whatever.Do you want a rikishi? this is Tamawashi Ichiro, nicknamed "The ironman of Sumo", he has the longest streak of active matches ever in sumo after never having missed a bout! He is also the oldest rikishi to capture a top division championship which he did when he was 37 years old!
>>107166015Not happening any time soon. We've barely seen anything. Give even the current models daily access to all the data on your smartphone and insane things are possible.
>>107165476Remember fucking Steve lied to everybody saying that they just ordered 3 9070xt from 3 different retailers at msrp as regular customers without any problem while people were facing "out of stock" and crazy prices everywhere but walking to microcentersfuck you steve you lying piece of shit
>>107165812>>107166188Some 9070xts also burn up too. It can happen to any 12vhpwr card. It's a flawed connector by design.
>>107165769>>107165771I just read my motherboard's manual and there doesn't seem to be any indication that using all NVME slots, or SATA slots, will slow down the PCIe 5.0 x16 slot.
>>107166294Wrong, the wattage isn't high enough on the 9070XT to cause any issues. Same with the 5070ti.
>>107166312Tell us the board model and we can help you confirm.
>>107166191UEFI won't boot 32bit OS because of their MBR format.
>>107166320anon...
>>107166320It 100% does happen. Also you're mistaken. It's the amps that matters not the watts. These cards are boosting to 3+ Ghz like never done before in past generations and that's stressing out the TDC.
>>107166326MSI PRO Z690-A DDR4. I think it's one of their more higher end boards. I do have a network card plugged into the PCI_E4: PCIe 3.0 x1 slot. I don't think that'd slow down the GPU.
>>107166188>>107166294The nice thing about the 9070xt is you have options if you want to avoid 12vhpwr, dont all 50 series cards use it? 9070xts have 2x8pin or 3x8pin models.Same here anon Nvidia has always been good to me, but the 50 series has seemed like such a shit show. Im gonna be honest, ive been considering different AIB offerings for the 9070xt anyways, I dont really want to just buy whatever model happens to be close to MSRP. I'd like to be able to pick out a model I prefer. I could end up closer to a 5070ti MSRP doing that, which makes it all the more conflicting.basically, do I get a nice 9070xt that I really want, get an MSRP 5070ti, or really save some money and get wahtever 9070xt is at MSRP... hard choice for me
>black friday approaching>9800x3d price keeps increasing I see what’s going on.
>>107166393>dont all 50 series cards use it?i think 5050 and 5060 use 2x8 pinsbut all 70 80 and 90 use it i think
Trying to clean out my closet. Which of these boxes would you throw out? CPU, GPU, Mobo, PSU, CPU fan.I’m thinking only the GPU since it’s the only item with real individual resell value?
>>107166385This affects PCIE 5.0 lanes.
>>107166453Ive found two 9800x3d deals. newegg is offering a free 360mm AIO as a bundle deal, and MSI is offering CPU adds ons for quite cheap. +$300 for 7800x3d and +400 for 9800x3d. There are some nice boards on discount to combine with that for a good deal IMO. I had already bought the AIO bundle when I found out sadly.
>>107165812The 5070ti is just a better card. Wins on raster and has better upscaling. More expensive, too. The 9070xt is more in line with a base 5070, being a tad better.
>>107166385You're right, there is no PCIe lane split between the PCIe Gen5 x16 and M.2 lanes.
>>107166484i ahve recommended that msi bundle so much on the last two days i think that msi should send me a gift baghttps://us-store.msi.com/Motherboards/AMD-Platform-Motherboard/PRO-B650-A-WIFI the b650 versionhttps://us-store.msi.com/Motherboards/AMD-Platform-Motherboard/B850-GAMING-PLUS-WIFIthe b850 version
>>107166471keep the GPU box if you plan on reselling it for sure, and keep the little plastic bit the CPU came in. I would keep your PSU box, or at the very least put all your PSU extra cables/accessories into a smaller box and clearly label it. Different PSUs can use different pinouts, so never mix/match stuff from one PSU to another. keep them organized and seperated :DMobo accessories, manual, etc all worth keeping together somewhere too IMO.
>>107166523based anon spreading the word. I ended up getting a sweet x670e board from MSI that was on discount, I really wish I knew about the bundle sooner as I couldve saved a bit. But it is what it is
>>107166484In my country, it went from $330 to $348. The 7800x3d is going for $300, not worth it.What about motherboards? I have no clue what are the good AM5 offerings that aren’t shitty matx boards.
someone bake a new thread i got called a retard for messing last one's second post
>>107166511Seems like if I go for the MSRP 9070xt thats a good deal for the price, but if im considering a yeston waifu sakura 9070xt for $720, i might as well just get the MSRP 5070ti... I just dont know what do
>>107166567At that price I’d get the 5070ti for sure. No point in paying premium for a “budget” card. I’d say follow your heart and go for waifu, but you can always get a custom backplate thingy from aliexpress to add the waifu. Thermals shouldn’t be too bad.
>>107166513What would it say if there was a split?
>>107166094>don't get what you meanbut did you look at my pic? I have armrests attached backwards so they do not interfere when you lean forward and only support when you lean back.
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>>107166526I hate phone posting
>>107166665Because bandwidth sharing is part of the spec. I guess they could just lie about it but that's a good way to get sued.
>>107166665Like the other guy said, it's an issue for PCIe 5.0 M.2 slots.Your board's M.2 slots are all PCIe 4.0.
>>107166561Lol I wasn't calling you a retard I was just wondering how you were doing that
>>107166727Thanks for the info, Anon!
>>107164922Who knows, probably more about TSMC's readiness and overall capacity than anything else. I can't see Nvidia letting AMD release cards on a new node for months on end without competition. I'm sure the DRAM shortages have something to do with the lateness of the RTX Super refresh, but likely the delay plays more into the big picture. I could see RTX 60 being Fall '27 at the latest. Likely Sony will want the PS6 on shelves for holiday '27, meaning AMD will be producing RDNA5 by then. Honestly a long generation doesn't bother me, as whatever better hardware that developers can get their hands on will just be usurped for essentially no graphical benefit. I'm all in favor of forcing optimizations on current hardware first before allowing them to get their grubby fingers on better hardware.
>>107164992>hOw doES CacHe wOrk in iD teCH gAmEsSome people will never know
>>107164380I BOUGHT
>>107166948>copes in 8GB
>>107166995>copes in Indiana Jones>copes in Radeon
>>107165645SSD’s only or will hard drives be affected as well?
>>107167090HDD's already been fucked for a few months, Western Digital informed major clients that prices will go up.
What would /pcbg/ recommend for an 8tb HDD?
>>107167603870 QVO
>>107166666checked andthat's exactly what I meant by my first example>I have armrests attached backwardssome chairs you can flip them around if not adjustable back and forth by defaultagain, exactly what I meant
>>107166666now I get what you mean by swapping left and right like the actual fucking arm rest attachmentswell yeah, again now you are accounting for shit being designed that wayanyway, not the main point
>>107166897>DRAM shortagesshortage my assprice manipulationi will wait for rtx 6000 >>107165909save for 5090 or wait for 6000nothing else makes sense since 16gb will be minimum for all models from 5000 super and onand 20gb is right now comfortable no need to worry average
This whole thing reminds me of the whole GPU shortage.Did GPU prices ever go down to regular price?Not sure if RAM and SSDs will be the same.
>>107168154>Did GPU prices ever go down to regular price?Yes.Used RX5700XT were going for over $1000
>>107159172I would have one made out of an early 2000s HP Pavillion, the computer from my childhood, but my dumbass double standard father just threw it out after he gave it to me just because I took too long to do anything with it, and then said I was never meant to have it in the first place.He should've killed himself instead of just talking about it.
>>107167603WD Red plus/pro if being used for a NAS, otherwise Blue.
