literally what does win 11 even do that 10 couldn't?

>>107171342
Destroy your wifi range

has anyone recently tried windows 11 on old machines, like 10 years old. how bad does it run?
i have an old laptop and eventually want to upgraded to windows 11 even if it is unsupported

>>107171694
IoT LTSC 2024 is basically 11 made to run on old 64-bit systems.

>>107171694
I've tried the windows 11 LTSC on thinkpad x230. LTSC is supposed to be slimmer, but even on that version explorer window takes 3.5 sec to open and slightly less on consecutive runs (cache) but you can see how the window is drawn every single fucking time. Peak bloat.

>>107171913
yeah that WinUI 3 shit is slow as fuck
even on decent hardware

>>107171913
Best you can do is just disable all the animations/graphical flourishes I guess.

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this privacy.sexy tool is pretty excellent

>>107172213
It's good if you actually pay attention to what lines you're adding to the script.

So wingoys has begun prompting me to upgrade to 11 every week since support officially ended, which as an added bonus has made installing any of the latest security updates impossible as near as I can tell. Anyone else encountered this?

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>>107171041
>trying to install windows 10 IoT LTSC 2021 on my shitty HP laptop
>get to selecting my drives
>We couldn't find any drives, select browse and search blah blah blah
>try downloading drivers onto USB boot
>nothing working
>find guy on reddit who had the same issue, says its because HP and Intel didn't include the needed drivers
can someone help me? I'm not a very advanced user and this has been a horrible experience. I've tried everything and nothing works. What am I supposed to do?
My laptop model:
Model 15-Dy4013dx

>>107172365
You can disable the nags within the notification settings. And you can enable the commercial ESU licenses through MAS which adds another 3 years of updates.

>>107171041
Trans image

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>>107172242
is this fine as it is?

^ windows?

>>107172390
Try disabling secure boot and other secure on boot features, they may block your disk from change before startup.
If you already have windows try running installation from windows.

I'm the guy who asked about 24H2 not being officially available for download anymore.

Might as well come clean about why I'm making a big deal out of it.

I run a repair shop and recently got the idea to have "backups" of recovery files to make recreating the recovery partition a bit easier. I already had the ones for 25H2

Since then, I found a link to 24H2 using Massgrave as a jumping point. I then ran hash checks and found 24H2's recovery file was indeed different from 25H2

>>107172411
Standard is fine

>>107172390
install 7 and do an in-OS upgrade to 10 enterprise, then convert to ltsc using activator in OP
easiest non-technical way

>>107172435
>Disable secure boot
Can you glow a little less harder

>>107172540
lol retard, if anything secure boot glows

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>The driver \Driver\WudfRd failed to load for the device ROOT\DISPLAY\0000.

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Is there a way to make a macro on Windows 11 without downloading/installing anything? My company has "strict" security rules and unless approved (lmao) we can only use software that comes with Win11. Apparently neither Python nor Powershell come pre-installed.

>>107173080
Powershell comes with all 10/11 installs though? Python you gotta install.

>>107172435
>>107172536
Thanks for the help friends, i searched deeper and found that HPs website says they dont include drivers for windows 10. You have to manually download the ones for win 11 as well.
HP is just autistic i guess.

what office version do you suggest?
2024 or 365?

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Has Windows 10 received any ESU patches since October 13? I haven't gotten any updates since and I'm worried that my ESU isn't working. I couldn't find an update log online.

>>107173305
check in about 4 hours from now

>>107173096
Oh thanks then.

>>107171342
Windows Recall

friendly reminder today is patch tuesday
at 10 am pacific time https://time.is/PT we will get november security updates

>>107172396
I've got the extended updates, kikerosoft just seems to be aggressively trying to get me to upgrade. Might be an issue with the first post-support security patch not being out yet, I guess we'll see soon, but if I'm still encountering this problem in a week I'll just try disabling notifications regarding updates like you mentioned. My main worry really is that next time I go to update, even without being prompted, it will forcibly upgrade me to 11 without my say-so. It's utterly baffling that they're trying their damnedest to torpedo any continued support for any past versions despite 11 still barely accounting for half of their market share.

>>107171960
I have no problems with it on an alder lake i3. Maybe you need a maacbook.

Who THE FUCK thought making Windows UI in React was a good fucking idea?

>>107175004
americans

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updates are out

>>107175030
>indians

fixed

>>107175057
Anyone tried it? Did they manage to fuck it up somehow?

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22h2 enablers in shambles

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>>107175262
booted

>>107175057
no cumulative update for me.W10 iot enterprise LTSC 22H2.only the malicious software removal tool.whats going on?are we fcked?

>>107175399
21h2 updates fine, it only affects people who used that pozzed 22h2 enablement package

>>107175408
i have to go back now?

>>107175482
most likely somebody on mdl will figure out how to spoof it in a few days max

>>107171342
Wifi 7

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IT'S PATCH TUESDAY

LET'S GIVE IT UP FOR PATCH TUESDAY

when is the next 11 ltsc getting released? 2024 one is buggy as hell, mainly the ui
I had to install regular home on a random machine and it's unironically more responsive that current ltsc

>>107175843
late 2027

>>107175380
Why the message about no longer receiving security updates? Do they just display it to all w10 machine regardless of the version?

>>107176181
check notes to this month's update, they fixed it

>>107176181
Meant for>>107175057

What's the best 11 version other than LTSC? IoT/enterprise, edu or pro?

>>107176403
It'll be enterprise but you really need to be asking yourself why you wouldn't be going LTSC if you're already doing a fresh install

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>still getting occasional kmode exception not handled bsods on 10 iot ltsc
>ruled out drivers, RAM, tried 22h2
it happens once a week or two but it is driving me insane. shit has to be my hardware either being bad or my hardware is just incompatible with 10 for whatever reason. im not using loonix again but i don't want to use 11 from what i have heard about it.

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>>107176403
if you have a device without tpm / supported cpu / secure boot then iot enterprise, otherwise normal enterprise

>>107176469
i had bsods from my nvme drive firmware not being up to date + did HMBAllocationPolicy fix and no bsods since

>>107171041
Why would I want to activate windows?
I was actually looking forward to Win10 losing support because now my PC doesn't randomly boot up in the middle of the night.

>>107176585
power plan > allow wake timers: disable

>>107176585
>Why would I want to activate windows?
Gets rid of the watermark

>>107176534
>i had bsods from my nvme drive firmware not being up to date
about 50/50 the bsod dump says either ntfs.sys or tcpip.sys caused it. although when i installed arch i did change the logical sector size of my drive (WD SN850X). i didn't read the fine print that said that some WD drives have issues with 4K sectors but while I was using linux i didn't have any noticeable problems. that's about the only thing i have changed from stock with my hardware besides XMP but i have already disabled that.
>did HMBAllocationPolicy fix
googling this gave results for windows 11 issues specifically

Bunch of new updates just dropped, the most important being KB5068861, which adresses several issues, most notably:

>[System utilities (known issue)] Fixed: This update addresses an issue where closing Task Manager with the Close button didn’t fully end the process, leaving background instances that could slow performance over time. This might occur after installing KB5067036.

>>107171041
Does Win10 save Word files to their cloud?

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I have two test VMs: one with regular Win10 IoT Enterprise LTSC 21H2 and a clone of it with the 22H2 enablement package.

Both of them showed "Your version of Windows has reached the end of support" message priorly. This is listed as fixed in today's KB5068781. (And might have been caused by having telemetry servers blocked according to the internet).
>[Update (known issue)] Fixed: After installing the October 14, 2025 Windows update (KB5066791), the message, "Your version of Windows has reached the end of support", might incorrectly display in the Windows Update Settings page. To view the page, click Start > Settings > Windows Update.
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/november-11-2025-kb5068781-os-builds-19044-6575-and-19045-6575-7fe13257-9079-49af-9369-e0e6242701dd

For the regular 21H2 VM today's KB5068781 update installed normally regardless of the "end of support" notice and after a reboot all is fine: latest OS build 19044.6575, no more messages about end of support.

22H2 enabled VM however does not receive today's KB5068781 at all. There is a way to remove the "Your version of Windows has reached the end of support" notice by adding ESODATESTRING in UsoSettings.json, but they are different things, the graphical message and the actual update support.
The build stays as October's 19045.6456, for ESU updated 22H2 build is 19045.6575 according to the MS update page.

So it does seem 22H2 enablement does not work for the long term updates of Win10 IoT Enterprise LTSC, naturally at least.

I continued the experiment and tried to enable ESU updates with MAS for the 22H2, but it fails with "IoTEnterpriseS LTSC already has longer support, ESU is not applicable". Manually installing ESU updates might work, but it's still different than what IoT LTSC updates would be.

I have a Lenovo thinkbook and I'm basically forced to use windows 11. I have version 24h2(os build 26100.1747)

Windows 11Iot enterprise LTSC.

What should I disable and cap if possible?

I'm assuming shutup10 isn't enough

>>107176403
>other than
GAC Enterprise is the best edition including LTSC
>muh updoots
Gets 3y support on any given release. One click to install the new feature pack if you ever want/need it.

>>107176950
>KB5067036 is a non-security preview update for Windows 11 that was released on October 28, 2025.
As always beta testers work for free and get screwed around for free. Thanks for saving the trillion dollar company from hiring more QA testers!

>>107177073
>Win10
No
>Word
Maybe

>>107177320
>cap
No cap
>I'm assuming shutup10 isn't enough
Depends on what you want to disable. You don't need more.

>>107177247
You may recieve KB5071959 as it is marked as a security update for 22H2 devices not part of ESU (and a regular OOB update to ESU) but there's a very good chance that your FrankenDebian won't get all (or even any) of the updates because 22H2 will make the LTSC updates incompatible as they are for a lower build number and you're also not a part of ESU so the extended 22H2 updates won't be offered.

>>107177247
>>107178020
Could've seen this from a mile away but I guess now its le big problem cause so many fell for it

>>107177914
You are welcome

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damn

So the TSforge activated ESU on normal Enterprise etc is working fine?

>>107178328
if you want 22h2, activate 3 years esu on 22h2 enterprise
if you want 21h2 use iot ltsc

>windows 10 pro 22H2 os build 19045.6575
activated esu using tsforge a while ago and today got just the KB5068781 update, no security updates that i saw, and now the message about no longer being supported is gone so I guess it's all fine?

Suggestions where to go on troubleshooting laptop speakers not playing on 2021 LTSC? Asus just points me to realtek for drivers, headphones work fine, speakers don't do anything except on bootup, the uefi has a boot noise that plays every time jsut fine.

>>107178344
Yeah I'm on normal 22H2 Enterprise.

Not sure if i am supposed to ask here or on /sqt/, i got Windows 10 IoT Enterprise installed right now but is it possible to update to the W11 version in the future without having to reinstall everything?

>>107178553
to win 11 iot ltsc yes

I recently realized my boot drive has TWO recovery partitions. I don't know if that came from MBR2GPT or from upgrading to Windows 10.

FWIW, this used to be a Windows 7 machine. IIRC, everything was on one partition during that era.

May I have a recommendation on a file manager utility, or, an explanation and fix for why my external drive won't update the Date Modified for folders and files unless it's a completely new file or folder?

>>107179029
what windows version?

If you close/re-open file explorer does it show the correct date modifed for the files?

Heads up for anyone worried. With the TSforge activated ESU on Enterprise 22H2 I got the November 2025 update even though the "you aren't receiving security updates" graphic was still there. We're good!

>>107178553
Yeah just mount the iso and run setup

>>107179138
And like another anon said, the "you aren't receiving security updates" graphic has now been fixed and it says "you're up to date" now.
It's literally just security fixes now too. This update installed fast.

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>>107179138

>>107179256
>Literally the only new part of this update besides security stuff
10 has become the new 7 in the ESU era.

https://www.reddit.com/r/WindowsLTSC/comments/1ouqznv/easy_22h2_disabler_only_if_you_installed_it/

I would give everything to be a blue pilled windows user again. I should have stopped when I got the Steam Deck...

>>107179433
Having an ESU'd 10 Enterprise desktop PC along with a Steam Deck sounds like best of both worlds desu

ESU works on my windows 10 enterprise 22h2 boys!

>>107179854
Yeah, works fine. Glad it was painless and just werked.

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lmao, glad I didn’t fall for the 22H2 meme

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I've been pausing updates since the localhost killer/blue screen fiasco and now that update is gone... I'm not seeing any "cumulative" updates What's going on?

>>107180228
When 10 Enterprise can just get the ESU enabled and work until 2028, it's basically like LTSC 2021 anyway. And now that 10 Enterprise and others aren't getting feature updates at all anymore and just security stuff, I don't see the point of using the enablement package on IoT LTSC 2021 anyway, and now it's fucked.

>>107180243
I guess the security update is comparable?

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I thought I'd try installing Windows through DISM for giggles and now I get this every time I log in. What could be causing it?

>>107180243
>I guess the security update is comparable?
I guess that's it. It skipped the malicious KB5067035 update and jumped to the task manager fix episode.

god help me if this shit breaks more shit.

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>>107180228
what would happen if you somehow activate ESU on LTSC with 22H2, that shit must be like a frankenstein build but what if it werks?

>>107180251
>Win95 icon

kek

>>107180334
It would be such a retarded build that it would loop back to being based

do you guys disable animations on windows 10?

>>107180397
If you find them annoying, it's fine, i personally never had issues with that. most of the time I've seen people disabling animations just to get a bit more performance in potatos

>>107180251
Did you do any debloating or nonstandard configuration? Which edition?
That is an IE 11 error because it doesn't support the URL.SearchParams property. Looks like something is mistakenly trying to use MSHTML instead of WebView2, I would expect uninstalling the IE 11 feature to fix it.
IE 11 was disabled by default in GAC Win10 (in 2022 IIRC) but still supported on LTSC.

>>107180397
Yes, every new install. The animation is just noise.

>>107180397
>on windows 10
On everything. Why should I have wait for some faggy squares to fly around the screen?

>>107180446
Pretty sure I didn't do any debloating. I just carved out the partition scheme with diskpart, then

 dism /Apply-Image /ImageFile:D:\Sources\install.wim /index:1 /ApplyDir:C:\

. This is on Windows 10 Home 22H2 "v1" according to the ISO I used.

Im going insane. Microsoft Store doesnt let me download anything or even add a free game to my library, it just fails. Tried every option google gave me, all the commands, reinstalling controllers, logging off and on, repairing with the Windows tool. Nothing fucking works.
I need help bros, I have been trying to play my fucking game for the past three days, but I cant even start downloading, it just goes to queue and then error 0X80072EE2. I have a fucking 1 GB symmetrical fiber connection...

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I was thinking that Rossmann using clippy as a symbol of software freedom didn't make any sense, but in the Microsoft lore, Clippy was fired on stage begging for an opportunity and asking people to protest against his firing.

Any recommendations for cheap powered usb hub? Anons say I need to keep my wi-fi dongle physically separated from my other USB 3.0 ports to improve my internet connection

How to force qbittorrent to continue a download even when there's missing files?

>>107180603
UGreen does the job

>>107180487
check your internet settings to see if there's something potentially blocking the connection, Antivirus, Firewall, DNS, VPN, anything that might be blocking it. Disable the AV/Firewall and try it again

>>107180626
I only have the default Microsoft Defender antivirus, no VPN, already reset and reinstalled all the internet thingy and controllers. Firewall disabled to try it too, still the same error. Repaired the app, reinstalled it too. I dont get it, it was fine a week ago and nothing changed, didnt download or update anything. Im going insane

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redpill me on "Reset this PC"
Does it work the same as reinstalling the OS?

>>107180918
Reset This PC is basically like using an ISO to repair upgrade the system but built directly into your install.

they said windows 10 support ended but i just got an update?

>>107180918
It works but I prefer using an usb to do a clean install from scratch.

>>107181236
ESU exists. If you're in Europe you get a single year of consumer ESU for free and you don't need to do anything. Outside of Europe you need to either pay 30 dollars or use 1000 MS funny money while also using an MS account system wide to get access to this one year of ESU. Or you can just use MAS's TSforge module to activate the three ESU licenses that give three years of commercial ESU, which just went through today and work perfectly.

>>107181246
I prefer that too, but I got a free w10 Pro license from uni few years back and want to continue using it. I don't even remember how I activated it since I don't even have a M$ account

>>107180603
Just use a short USB extension cable, you don't need a hub. You just need to move the dongle away from the ports on the system.

>>107180625
>>107181330
Thanks, we'll try the latter
Any ideas why this interference would have suddenly developed after years without trouble?

>>107181573
radio waves bounce around, even moving a piece of furniture can interfere. or maybe the dongle is just crapping itself, i dunno. if a cheap cable fixes it that would be great.

best of luck!

>>107181260
is ESU Extended Security Support or Extended Services Support? Home and in the US btw. I did sign up for the Security support but defender was not affected by this update AFAIK?

>>107180464
Try uninstalling IE 11 either through DISM or "Turn Windows Features On and Off"

>>107181643
Extended security updates. And if you've signed up and are using an MS account you got the updates.

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This shit takes so fucking long

Am stupid. Can someone explain what up with the 22H2 thing and why it's causing some people problems with the ESU? I've got 22H2 and activated ESU via tsforge and I think it's all working fine for me with today's update.

>>107181846
Yeah it's weird how long it can sometimes take. Always makes it in the end though.

>>107181870
This is stemming from people that used that 22H2 enablement package on IoT LTSC 2021. It's not a "real" version of Windows so cumulative updates aren't listed for it. Seems that if you actually want updates on IoT LTSC 2021 you need to stay on 21H2, though you can get 22H2 updates if you just use GAC 10 with the ESU updates enabled.

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>>107181603
Thanks
Have a Lucas, on me

>>107175843
is this true?
i tried windows 11 years ago on an unsupported laptop and it was slower than 10 but it was fine
then i tried the leaked iot ltsc iso and it ran like shit
could iot ltsc be the problem?

>>107182204
I don't see that many people complain about IoT LTSC 2024. Anon might just be having a self contained bad time on his hardware? Dunno.

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So to make it simple, pic related for my 22H2 Win10:

I got the security update which should be the only thing that matters, right? What the hell is feature update anyway? I just want a reasonably secure system.

I did not get any other update. But reading this thread you'd think that Enterprise 22 builds are somehow unsafe yet they also get security updates. Also the message is gone.

So those on 21 who did something to go to 22 did not get what I showed in attached pic?

Did I miss anything? If I wanted to bother with endless tinkering with OS I'd just use Linux.

>>107181603
Update for interested parties: it didn't work
I'm leaning towards the dongle crapping out
Other new factors: Amazon Fire TV stick thing employed in household; new neighbour - could either of those be impeding my internet?

https://catalog.update.microsoft.com/Search.aspx?q=ltsb%2021h2%20x64
22h2 ltsc users can apparently manually apply these

>>107182569
read the thread, everything has been already discussed

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>nvidijeet niggers are hijacking the /fwt/ OP and not just /pcbg/ anymore
Disgusting

>>107182862
Answer my question you slimy fuck

>>107182893
Yes anon the cumulative update includes the security updates. The "unsafe" 22H2 installs are the ones that used the enablement package on their IoT LTSC 2021 installs, read slower.
Every normal 22H2 GAC 10 install that had TSforge's ESU unlocker ran on it gets the ESU cumulative updates fine.

>>107182893
cmd and open winver
if 19045.6575 - all is good
if 19045.6466 or 19045.6456 - get the rope

>>107182927
>>107182912

thanks all is good then

>>107182994
Hell the only new "feature" that was in the November 2025 update was a fix to the bug that made it say that your install was EoL. Just security fixes otherwise.
Seems like how it's going to be for the foreseeable future now. 10 is the new 7.

>>107183009
technically there's still mainstream support until jan 2027 for (iot) ltsc

>>107183028
I mean it's the same with LTSC now too. Now that additional feature updates being included in cumulative ones in 10 isn't happening anymore, 10 as a whole will be solid as fuck and only get security focused cumulative updates for 3+ years.

>>107177891
you mean regular enterprise or iot?

>>107183121
GAC means normal non-LTSC 10.

>>107183127
regular iot (non ltsc) also gets updates through gac, no? that's why I'm asking enterprise or iot enterprise (non ltsc)

>>107183164
No, LTSC/IoT LTSC get updates through the LTSC branch, which as of now also includes the updates that are now given to GAC 10 through ESU.

If Windows dropped the forced online account and AI bullshit I'd go back immediately.

>>107183635
sounds like all you need is windows 11 iot ltsc

>>107183635
They won't drop both of that for the forseeable future but both are easily disabled. The account via installing the Enterprise variant/using Rufus to make your boot USB and the AI shit with some registry edits and feature disabling.

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>next update has recall embedded
>start menu opens a browser that makes outgoing calls
>explorer patcher still a necessity to even move the toolbar to the right and left
Fuck it I give up at this point. I'll move over to Linux and keep my old shitbox dualbooted in case I ever need anything windows-only again.
This fucking sucks.

>>107183803
Literally just disable Recall with DISM or Windows Features. It's not hard.
Are you even using a PC with an NPU in it?

>>107183814
>literally just
I have no more time to bother fighting after each and every update with an OS that's clearly declining.

>>107183822
Alright drama queen, go use Linux or something.

kind of a dumb question but should I use tsforge or switch to the pro version to get ESU's?
I got 10 education from my uni and it doesn't get updates

>>107183848
Activate ESU on your Education install.

>>107183121
I mean regular Enterprise but GAC IoT Enterprise has the same life cycle. You will have to check for group policy support though, IoT editions don't get the as many options as the non-IoT variants and the docs aren't always clear in regards to them.
>https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/lifecycle/products/windows-11-iot-enterprise

>>107183173
Anon you do realise that there is an IoT Enterprise edition part of the GAC channel not LTSC?
>which as of now also includes the updates that are now given to GAC 10 through ESU
They are still separate channels but 10 or 11 GAC Enterprise is still the best edition and I used to be a hardcore LTSCfag.

>>107183907
The ESU updates pretty much make normal GAC 10 Enterprise just as good as LTSC now, now we know MAS's ESU unlocker works flawlessly.

i dont know if i should install office 365 or go with an older fixed version

>>107184294
You can really use either thanks to Ohook, but if you want to more easily choose what exact modules of Office you want to use then use the Office Deployment Tool method and use 365 Apps for Enterprise or Office LTSC.

>>107184309
do you recommend 365 or LTSC?

>>107184350
LTSC because I don't need the entire suite.

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>start the PC
>Copilot is been on disabled startup a long time ago
>the creepy robot appears anyways
Wtf windows... I don't need another ai that will eat my RAM and startup speed..

>>107184369
2024?

>>107184529
>Futo
are you that millionaire that's funding Rossman?

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>>107184563
I call my guitar fat tiger so I use the japanese futo for computer stuff, steam.
>The term "futo fat" is not a standard phrase in Japanese. "Futo" is a Japanese word element that can mean "thick" or "fat", but it is generally used as a prefix or part of a larger word, not in conjunction with the English word "fat".

who's the luke smith of the windows world?

>>107184750
chris titus

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This is a very general question. I am running Windows 10 on a high end PC. If I update to windows 11, will my history in Firefox be affected (i.e, saved log ins)? I also have active torrents in qbittorrent (music tracker), would they be wiped out? Would I have to re-add all the torrents? Would most the applications I have simply be there and not have to be reinstalled

Basically, if I update to Windows 11, is it normally a seamless update in which I can resume normal use after upgrade?

>>107185559
in theory yes, the only stuff that gets modified are Windows files, in practice there could be little annoyances but these days upgrading is not as unpredictable as it used to be, specially from 10 to 11 because they're very similar. Of course clean install is still the recommended way

>>107185831
also, if you have the possibility, you should make a backup of your current install with macrium or clonezilla, just to be able to go back in case something doesn't work

>>107185831
>>107185856
>Of course clean install is still the recommended way

Thanks, but man, I just don't have the time for bringing my pc back up to my preferred settings. I may just do the basic upgrade. Also, I'd do the clone, but my main SSD is 4tb. Is it wrong to just simply want shit to work?

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Anyone having problems installing KB5068781?
>Something didn't go as planned
with 0xe0000003 error. W10 IoT Enterpise 21H2.

>>107183969
>The ESU updates pretty much make normal GAC 10 Enterprise just as good as LTSC now
Has been better since before EoL and ESU

>>107184556
nta yes