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>News & Rumors
RTX 50 Super: 2026 launch. 24GB VRAM for 5070 Ti & 5080 Super, 18GB for 5070 Super.
Nova Lake 2026
Dual 3d cache "9950X3D2"

>Product Notice
PNY RTX 50 cards have QC issues (rattling fans, reports of 5070 & 5090 with blown capacitors)

Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

>Omissions
-9060xt 16gb: Performance variable compared to 5060ti, consider cheaper second hand options like the 3080
-9070: Currently more expensive than the 5070
-"Futureproofing": Nvidia gpus in general have been aging better than Radeon regardless of vram or marginal differences in raw performance

Leave any constructive suggestions for edits to the op. Is slowly being worked on.

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Why the fuck the second message never copies the green text sections when i copy it
Reeeeeeeeee

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I completed the r7 7700 + 9060 xt build Monday evening. A friend who's built some before helped with cable management.

I tried EXPO 1 (6000 mt/s CL30), everything was super unstable, couldn't even boot or change BIOS settings, cleared cmos, now using EXPO 2 (which was 5600 + CL36)

Notice the distinct lack of quantum computers.

>>107181563
Looks neat enough anon
What are the ram sticks? 5600/CL36... i have heard worse
Bet you learned a lot about the process too, what are the rest of the components?

>>107181471
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>>107181471
Please consider my poor consumer abilities and render aid.

>>107181570
How the fuck they gonna build an ethereal computer to steal muh bitcoins.
That's what they're gonna use it for. Nobody will notice when one person suddenly has most of the bitcoins from wallets all of a sudden.
Not the nuclear codes though. Just bitcoin.

>>107181584
The ram sticks are patriot vipers, 6000 cl 30. I'll try going back to their max frequency when I have time, maybe the only problem was the cmos.

The other parts are: gigabyte b650 eagle mobo, deepcool c560 case, msi mag a650gl psu, thermalright 120 se cooler, 1tb skhynix ssd from a laptop (still has 99% life, and it has dram, so it's a good drive)

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How good is this pre-built?
https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-gaming-desktop-pc-geforce-rtx-5090-amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d-64gb-ddr5-2tb-ssd-aorus-supreme-5-as55000/p/N82E16883253004

I was thinking of building something with a 5090 but this seems reasonably priced since a lot of 5090s are going for almost or even above $3000 already.

I'm unsure about liquid cooling though, never used it, also wondering if 1000W is enough.

>>107181712
I was looking for either that or a Xiaomi G27Qi 27" monitors (and maybe another one eventually) but I've been having trouble deciding that I just said yeah fuck it this isn't too complicated a decision

>>107181677
>liquid cooling

You do get better cooling, but it has downsides. Anything pumping liquid will need periodic maintenance. Its also more points for failure, like leaks, or the pump dying. Where as a good old air cooler might not need to even be touched for a decade.

Liquid coolers seem to be pushed hard lately in all kinds of prebuilt shit for "GAMERS" but most people buying them have no idea what to do with it. They just buy it and hope it werks.

>>107181677
>>107181725
Yeah, you dont need liquid cooling for a 9800x3d.

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>>107181677
For me thats a no go
Price wise seems more than fine to be fair but im wary that they dont list the specifics anywhere that i can see?
I was able to find the ram on a review 5200 CL40, mobo is an x870

Okay you can disregard all that, found the specs on gigabyte's own webpage
picrel
You can take 5 mins to plug that on pcpp and see where it lands

>>107181724
Yeah im not there yet cause im a fool hoping that something magical will appear on black friday, perhaps on a local store too
But then is what i said if i decide on a 27" which was my idea but there is a similar 32" for up to 50€ more then ill just get a 32

>>107181443
this is actually a great idea anon, ty

>>107181753
I mostly jumped the gun because I've been using a 1080p 32" tv that started really acting up with horizontal lines. anything i get is an upgrade at this point.

>>107181725
AIOs never need maintenance and are not designed to be user serviceable in the first place, you’re clueless

Anyone else live in an utter shithole city when it comes to used tech prices? Looking at ads for my country in general, an item might be 200-250 bucks depending on condition, plenty of ads from various locations. My city? One to three ads for that specific item, and priced 350+.
Just... how, why? Do I live in such a poorfag city that people are holding onto borderline obsolete tech and only selling it if they feel they can bamboozle someone into overspending for profit?
A different example was me looking at used RTX 3060 12GB a few weeks ago. Overall for my country 150-200 euro. My city minimum of 250 euro with the sellers saying "I KNOW WHAT I'M OFFERING THIS IS A TOP TIER GPU WITH LOTS OF MEMORY FOR HIGH END 1440P GAMING!!!"

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005009236373492.html

Is buying a CPU from aliexpress legit? its almost 200$ off if i use the discount code + Klarna

>>107181769
>you’re clueless

Its hoses, with a radiator, and a pump. Theres always chance it will leak or the pump will wear out. Its not as long lasting or reliable as an air cooler.

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I keep a template list on pcpp with the cheapest shit according to some parameters
So when an anon asks for a budget list i just pick his country add a suitable cpu and maybe make a couple adjustments
Its glorious waking up everyday EVERYDAY to a differente ramkit as the cheapest one a couple bucks more expensive than the day before... everyday
Todays choice in my country has gone from 129 to 192
Can't wait for tomorrows

>>107181802
i mentioned this the last time i asked that i dont see those discount codes, can you please edit your shit and post a screenshot?
i assume are some local promotions to your country

Nothing i can offer on your question tho, i bought a bunch of sneakers and socks and some other shit off aliexpress once and it was all well, but dropping 400 and just hoping... i dont think i could

>>107181802
The better question is: What stops me from ordering one from amazon and switching the two and sending back the chink one to amazon? Do CPUs even fail if they post?

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>>107181818
here you go friend
>>107181841
devilish

>>107181802
I wouldn't risk more than 100 bucks on Ali. One time I ordered a dog jacket for my grandma's dog as a christmas present (4 week delivery estimate) and it came in like June kek

>>107181849
can you link the store?

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>>107181749
I tried to match the parts on pcpp. There were some parts that I tried to match as close as possible to what's listed, but I couldn't find the case so I left it out. Also added in a noctua cooler just to see how much it would cost to replace the liquid cooler.

It seems to be a few hundred dollars above the pre-built, that means it's a good deal, right?

>>107181849
Thank you, form those show stuff like 5€ if i order 50€ and such, maybe it would scale if i add shit to the cart

>>107181803
>Theres always chance it will leak
And there is nothing you can do to prevent that, nothing to maintain. In the near-impossible chance a modern AIO leaks, that is what the warranty is for.

This evil of depriving people of their Full Performance™ must be stopped.

Some great aliexpress deals on 9000 series ryzens, like a 9600x for £117 which is how much I got my 7500f for a year ago. 7800x3ds for sub £200 too.

>>107181769
My friend has an EKWB AIO, after 5 years it built up some bacteria, he's back to air cooling while trying to fix it

>>107181769
>AIOs never need maintenance
shut the fuck up you fucking retard you have no idea what you're talking about

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>>107181856
I mean adapting it myself on pcpp to more suitable parts i ended up at 4610$ myself (better ram, better ssd, better psu, the noctua cooler you picked)
My gripe is that if im spending 4k$ on a pc (not that i could afford it so understand where im coming from) i would like to be able to pick the shit myself, having to accept that ram, or feeling that i wanted a 1200w psu, or having to replace the coolers, or accept that weird ass shitty rgb lookin case with the fuckin gigabyte eagle on it etc
So it looks like the deal is good on cost, if not so much on the choice of parts. I rather spend 4.6k (AGAIN IM POOR THIS IS HYPOTHETICAL) on a pc i chose myself.
But yeah it could been worse

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nG3x4p my take on it.
This is before deals, i didnt check if newegg page had any good deal or that msi deal that people posted last thread that saved like 100$ on the cpu

>>107181934
retard

>>107181856
Real talk.
What the hell is a 5090 for three thousand american dolleridoos going to do for you that a 5070ti just can't?

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>picking out PC parts, and suddenly realize my case choice doesnt have a spot for a DVD/CD drive

>>107181972
more vram
want to start messing around with local AI models

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>>107181849
Noice.

>>107181972
4k/120 without upscaling or framegen.

>>107181975
I put mine in from an old dell 3 years ago.
I never used it.
I still like to use cds in my car too.
The 80 minute limit really makes you narrow it down.

>>107181987
Couldn't we do this a decade ago without spending $3000? Upscaling didn't even exist.
Why are jeets allowed to code?

>>107182014
Yeah, we could do it with a 1080ti or a Titan 10 years ago.
>Why are jeets allowed to code?
Thats the question, isnt it?

I miss when a 750 Ti was all you needed for 1080p gaming. I miss when a 1050 TI was all you needed for 1080p gaming. I miss when a 1060 6GB was all you needed for 1080p gaming. I miss when a 1650 Super was all you needed for 1080p gaming. I miss when a 1660 Super was all you needed for 1080p gaming.
Nowadays the minimum for 1080p60 native no upscaling no framegen in the latest and greatest titles at ultra graphics is a 5090.

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The msi deals that i shilled last thread (and the one before) have increased their prices a bit
I remember recommending the 7700 which was at 180 and the 7800x3d was at 300, now 190 and 335
The 9800x3d hasn't increased, it was and still is 400$
Thats all carry on

>>107181934
they’re not even user serviceable dipshit

>>107182014
>couldn't we do this a decade ago with potato graphics and static baked lighting
And no, we couldn't, not at 4k. The insane spoiling of a generation not comprehending that 4k PT 100+ FPS is hard to do.

>>107182066 (me)
Hell, when it came out, even the basic 2GB 1050 was pretty decent and better than the, at that time still very popular, 750 Ti.
I'll admit the 900-series was pretty damn forgettable outside the 3.5GB fiasco.

>>107182117
in terms of artistic cohesion some 2015 games look better than modern raytraced UE5 zlop

>>107182066
>750 Ti
Huh, I checked TPU's chart for this and a 670 was 50% better than it. I definitely squeezed value out of that rock for a very long time.

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Any recommendations on changes to this setup? Im in canada, so everything costs out the ass, but I'll be using this for eons. Im the guy from last thread with the old 14 year old PC still running Windows 7 with a 970.

>>107182177
A friend of mine used the 760 Ti (similar to 670) that came in his prebuilt Alienware PC until 2021-ish when he upgraded to a new prebuilt with a 3070.

>>107182185
What's the usecase? Not just gaming I assume from the Intel CPU and lots of NVME storage. CAD, Blender, Video Editing?

>The RAM I was looking at has doubled in price in a week
I hate AInogs so much it's unreal.

>>107182066
>I miss when a 750 Ti was all you needed for 1080p gaming
That was never the case. You needed a 780. Hell, I had a beefed up 970 and it still wasnt good enough for 1080p in all cases.
>>107182117
Graphics havent improved that much in the last 10 years. Maybe 20 to 30% better. RT/PT are still very much memes unless you have a 5070ti at the bare minimum.

>>107182185
Motherboard is overkill unless you really need that extra nvme slot. And isnt that GPU model pretty expensive? Couldnt you just go for a 5080 at that point?

Just got a phantom spirit CPU cooler and gawdamn this thing is fucking yuge

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How are we feeling, 5080 Super bros? Do we wait or are we buying a 5080 during black week instead?

>>107182302
50xx super is cancelled.

>>107182317
Delayed, not cancelled.

>>107182258
>RT/PT are still very much memes
HW Lumen @ High is decent on a 5070. Good enough reflections and ambient light bounce.

Is AliExpress really trustworthy?

waitfags are hilarious I was told to wait for supers when I was building my PC 2 months ago like yeah man I'll stay on a fucking 1660S for 9 more months and miss out on the release hype for new games like Silent Hill F for almost a year

I'm not very bright but if AI goons were allowed to buy out next year of global NAND output and we know that Nvidia & Open AI want to spend another trillion billions making more data centers, won't they just do it again? and then again? and then after the production is increased to match their demands, again anyway?
The amount of data centers is projected to almost double by 2030. With this in mind and the fact that they are allowed to buy it out, manufacturers basically belong to them, they will buy no matter how much they make and at a premium price, AI shits are the perfect customer.
The article was talking about 2027 being bad but I don't see it playing out this way. They have unlimited money and unlimited needs and they were allowed to hog the market. Unless something shifts their attention/needs away or the production outgrows demand(not possible) the NVME market is fucked. straight up over until the profit margin from retail overtakes AI sales and knowing how long term contracts work production won't turn itself on a dime even when presented with a better deal.
Please correct me if I'm wrong but won't NVME at least quadruple in price by the end of 2026 once the absolute state of the market is finally realized? and wont this shitshow last until they pop? to me it seems that at worst we are looking at a solid 4 to 5 years of wallet busting findom for anything that uses DRAM or NAND.

>>107182377
>9 more months
More like 19 months

>>107182396
did they delay them again past february lmao?

>>107182194
Mostly gaming, and some video editing. Its a bit overkill, but Id like to make it kinda "future proof" in that its going to last me a long time with no upgrades. And if I do upgrade anything I can just plug new shit in.

>>107182286
>MB is overkill

Ive never had NVME before but it seems like its almost all around superior to regular SSDs? Was thinking of maybe putting in a 1TB NVME for the OS, and then doing a 4TB SATA SSD for my vidya and storage. Or mabe just two NVMEs would be better?

>get a 5080 at that point

5080s are still alot more expensive than a 5070ti for very similar performance. Im not planning on running 4K shit, so a 4070ti will be just fine for me.

>>107182380
Its a bubble. The benefits of this investment dont justify their expenses. All these companies are just racing to see who will win at the end and manage to have a mega profitable product at the end of the day.
And, to some extent, having a constant demand increase can be good for some industries. DRAM, for example, is notoriously unforgiving because of harsh boom and bust cycles. Many companies went bankrupt because they invested tons of money into manufacturing while prices were high and only managed to actually sell their shit at scale after the price dropped by 70%. If the deman is constant, prices will just slowly taper off and allow more competitors to join the industry.

>>107182420
>1TB NVME for the OS, and then doing a 4TB SATA SSD for my vidya and storage
This is retarded because SATA drives are not any cheaper than NVME's and much slower. They're only kept around for legacy systems without NVME slots (e.g. servers, old laptops) or for powerusers that want like 8 drives in their PC.

>>107182420
>Ive never had NVME before but it seems like its almost all around superior to regular SSDs? Was thinking of maybe putting in a 1TB NVME for the OS, and then doing a 4TB SATA SSD for my vidya and storage. Or mabe just two NVMEs would be better?
That motherboard has 4 NVME slots, plus 4 or 6 SATA ports. B760 standard motherboards have 3 slots + 4 SATA ports. If you're considering only having 2, there's no reason to pay for the extra IO. And Z790s allow for overclock, I guess.
>5080s are still alot more expensive than a 5070ti for very similar performance
They are a lot more expensive than MSRP 5070tis, but unless prices have dropped, the difference is not that big to that card in particular. I'd just get a MSRP 5070ti, but whatever.

>>107172314
>new 5060 ti is so good you need trash journos copium to buy it
I recommend it based of the cuda counts versus previous gens, 4608 shaders vs every previous xx60 series.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nvidia_graphics_processing_units#RTX_50_series
It *is* a good buy compared to previous gens if you have not upgraded for a few years (if you aren't one of these braindead people who has bought the latest xx60 series every, single, fucking, gen).
You also get DLSS4. I don't know how it goes on these lower tier cards but the 5080 is a dream.

Noctua NF-A14x25 G2 PWM Lüfter - 140mm

>>107182424
Even if the prices plateau and taper off they will be sliding off a giant hike and I still think that NAND situation is even worse than DRAM.
Mostly worried about my own pockets rather than some global things or industry at large and to me it seems that consumer market is about to be irreversibly fucked for at least half a decade.

>>107182328
>delayed
>paper-launched
>scalped
The 50XX Supers are going to be the world's rarest GPUs.

>>107181501
that style of cable management looks very sexy but i would never bother with it lol

>>107182380
So you're telling me I need to buy more.
I already have as much noncucked PCIE 5.0 NVME as I can buy, however. Should I get an 8TB SN850X then?

>>107182302
Were saving up to buy a 5090 by Christmas

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>people use GPUS to create AI to scalp all the 5080 Supers which they use to make AI

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>>107182650
>The AI is telling people to buy more parts

>>107182609
The thing is I am stupid and inexperienced in this area so my analysis is very likely to be completely off but I can't find obvious gaps in my reasoning, even if it is a bubble they are still building more data centers, about a thousand a year for the upcoming 5 years and so the demand for DRAM & NAND will keep on growing. Under these conditions manufacturers will become living onaholes for their AI sugar daddies, regular Joe is guaranteed to be 4th if not 10th in line to get his drip of precious silicone.
The ways out are several.
Better technology is developed and they pivot to it but even if the new stuff is made they will still take old but good to fill those data centers.
Manufacturers somehow outpace demand and allow a price crash, - requires them to be stupid because AIdogs are ordering years upfront so they know that every chip they make was already bought allowing them to precisely scale for that demand, so even when production doubles the amount of juice Joe gets does not change in any capacity.
AI bubble pops. USA seems to be willing to make it pretty for the AI guys, I just don't see them crashing within the next two years.

should I use the thermal paste I got with my thermalright AIO or buy a Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut?

>>107182730
I think Duronaut is the way to go now. But do you need the degs in the first place - how big is your AIO?

>>107182730
Kryonaut is for overclocking. It's not meant to be used long term (over a week)

>>107182770
360mm
>>107182779
>>107182770
yeah I meant the Duronaut, mixed it up

Was just about to order a 7800x3d from aliexpress when I saw a local retailer was having a pretty good sale so I bought there instead. For any other NZers here it's at extremepc for $690.

When upgrading a pc, is it advisable to change the psu or is it safe to keep it as long as it's a good one? PC is used for gaming with parts that are not overclocked, psu is a 4 years old rm850x

>>107182885
A bit of both. I'd still keep it as it's only 4 years old, but it's never bad to be cautious.

>>107182885
I've used the same PSU for 12 years until it blew up magic smoke during a overclock session

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I will not buy overpriced RAM
I will not buy overpriced RAM
I will not buy overpriced RAM

>>107182956
you will not build a computer then

>>107182993
I will wait

>>107182956
Just get used RAM? I see a listing for 175 euro for 2x32GB of 6000MT CL36. That's about the same price as a brand new kit of 2x16GB 6000MT CL30.

>>107183024
>CL36
no

>>107183030
good luck running 64GB at CL30

>>107183037
?
you can do 6000cl26 with 64gb

>>107183037
I will not buy anything!

>>107183050
you can do many things on paper, but there's people whose mobos fail to post with 2x16gb 6000cl30 kits after enabling the expo profile
it's not a guarantee is my point

>>107183037
Running 64GB at 6000CL30 is no problem. In fact, it's more likely to be stable than C36 because Hynix 16Gb A-die is easier to run than Samsung ICs (most, if not all, 6000C36 kits are Samsung-based).

>>107183072
6000cl36 has gotten less shitty thankfully with micron releasing their rev d chips

>>107183067
nah cl26 kits are guaranteed 16gbit a-die and way easier to run than ancient 16gbit m-die based 6000cl30 kits

Waitfags got screwed over. Newer x3Ds and ram got worse silicon quality now and are more expensive. People with early units can do -25, -30 Co or 1.35v while these newer revisions are failing past -15 or need 1.37-1.40v on dram.

>>107181501
In my country cheapest 32 gb CL30 ram is 2x the price of a Ryzen 5 7500f. I was thinking of building a new pc 6 months later.

S-surely this is only a temporary thing and will pass, r-right bros??

>>107181856
I honestly don't see the point of getting the 9800X3D over the 9950X3D in these builds. It's so much money already, why not just holy shit $300 for 5600c46

>>107183094
I have an early unit but tell me why I should even do that

>>107181856
>1x64GB 5600 CL46
>$315
please don't do that
if ram's gonna be stupid money anyway at least get 2x32 6000 CL36 or lower

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>>107181501
If I buy a 6400CL34 DDR5 kit is it likely I can run it at 6000CL30?

I want it for my Ryzen 9950X but the 6400 kit is much cheaper than the 6000 one.

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>>107181975
You can try a Pop Air XL, the FLP-02 or the CM695 but that one might be Japan only right now.

Still thinking about buying an AMD BC-250 board...

>>107183105
Because you can? It's like owning a early console unit. It can be hacked wide open. Can you do it? Yes. Should you do it? Maybe. If you sell it is it worth more? Yes.

>>107182913
>>107182932
Thanks. It's just that I got a 5070ti and I'm currently using the adapter that came with it. A single 12hpwr from Corsair costs 30 bucks, which is a lot but still less than 120 or more for a good psu.

Maybe somebody that knows what the fuck is he talking about could rework a bit the ram section of the op
Include other options to search after the 6000/30, the less worse options and such

>>107183170
6000cl30, 6200cl32, 6400cl34, 6600cl36 are the same ram speed but higher values means it's more stressful to run on Ryzen IMC and may not even POST if you lost the CPU lottery.

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Why should I get the Q27G3XMN for $260? Seems pretty good. VA miniled, good response time, little black smearing, good rtings review

>>107183224
>VA
kwab

>>107183236
I don't feel like spending $600+ just to start worrying about burn in

>>107183125
Hynix chips are generally regarded as being consistent i.e. low bin-to-bin variation. You're unlikely to encounter issues but may need to manually tune the secondaries to match performance with an EXPO 6000 kit. Either that or just use Buildzoid's EZ timings.

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Since we talking about monitors

This is currently my poverty tier monitor choice. Im gonna wait to hope for a miracle extra discount once black friday shit starts on amazon and if its not further discount is my current pick

Could you please let me know if there is anything shit with it? This would be for gaming in 2, watching youtube, and sending emails.

Please and thank you.

https://www.amazon.es/-/en/32GS85QX-B-AEU-LG-DIS-32-32GS85QX-B-dp-B0D7CVQMC8/dp/B0D7CVQMC8

So I've got a new graphics card and I would like to change it. Both of them are AMD (7700 xt and 9070XT). Can I just swap them?

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>autists are malding at AIOs for no reason again.

>>107183274
I meant getting an IPS. The contrast/backlight/glow issues are overblown and not even apparent in an appropriately lit room. If you play in a pitch dark gooncave then sure, I guess you'll notice it.

>>107183298
As long as they both run on the same driver you wont even notice a flicker

>>107181501
>Post build list or current specs: https://pcpartpicker.com/
If I blindly buy everything in magnificent build and it doesnt work can I sue them or get a refund?

>>107182374
Just ordered my 7800 x3d from there, Ill report if/when I get chinked.

>>107183094
co is just an offset off of your pre-programmed vf curve and doesnt matter at all
-10 co on a golden sample results in less voltage than -20 co on a bad chip
all it means is that amd is now better at programming their chip with less voltage margin than before.

>>107183125
6400cl34 sounds like it could be binned samsung b-die or micron rev. d, neither of which can run 6000cl30

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>>107183306
To be far, people are being lied to.
Tards kept talking about how much custom water cooling is so problematic and that AIOs have zero of the issues but as it turns out they have the exact same issues. You're just not allowed to see it and the industry relies on people buying much bigger coolers than necessary so you don't notice the degradation from corrosion or flux.

>>107183354
That would be cool anon, let us know, im hoping it works for you

>>107183350
Dont think you could no, but they are usually decent builds cause they just pick decent shit and then parametric it to show the cheapest
They are a good starting point those builds

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>>107182683

my ODD can playback DVDs perfectly but adds an awful noise to CDs both in playback and ripping
does it make sense one part can get screwed but not the other?

>>107183587
means lens isnt as good anymore. it can happen to ps2s and dreamcasts where it can play dvds/gd-roms perfectly but struggle to play ps1 cds or burned games. you can try adjusting the lens pot but that might end up killing it faster.

>>107183319
do these 2 cards share the same drivers?

>>107183699
all rdna cards use the same driver. no need to reinstall the driver when swapping amd unless you're going from say 7700xt to rx 580.

>>107183728
great

>>107181537
> RTX 50 Super: 2026 launch
Only in Q3!

>>107184091
By the time waitfags unbox their 5080 super, buychads would have already enjoyed their 5080 and 5090s for more than 18 months kek

>>107184138
I plan to have a cyberchip on my rat sized brain by then

>>107181677
Probably OEM crap. The specs don't make clear which model of "Aorus" motherboard it is. Same with the GPU. The RAM only DR5-5600, no timings given. If you shell out almost $4k you would want to know what you get for that much money unless you are clueless and don't know the differences anyway.

>>107181749
Those "specs" remain unspecific. See above.

>>107183294
Could use some critique on this monitor please.
Im poor and would like to get the most of my money, if i buy it and its filled with rats because i didnt understand an specification i might kill myself

>>107184195
I wouldn't buy a 32" 1440p monitor; 32" is 4K.

>5070 ti 740€ on friday

PC gaming is finally affordable again

>>107184138
I don't understand wait people... there will always be an upgrade right around the corner.

>>107184227
Its the same pixel density that 1920x1080 24"
it will be fine

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I've been thinking about upgrading my RTX 4060 to a 5060ti 16GB, sadly the dual version from asus is out of stock in my area (which is similar to my current 4060), there's any brand you guys would recommend or avoid? The ones available are from MSI or Galax. I could get one with 3 fans but I believe it'll partially cover one of my case fans.

>>107184342
only worthwhile upgrade from 4060 would be 5070 ti

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>>107180619
i'm still weighing my pros and cons, maybe i'll do it next year

>>107184351
That would require me to upgrade my 650w psu which I'd rather not touch right now.

>>107183145 (me)
>it sold
it's over, I'm never getting one

>>107184402
not rly
undervolting also easily drops 50w off the max use
If you had some 16 core cpu running at full load it might get close to the limit but probably not doing that while gaming

>>107184402
you do you anon but the 4060 to 5060TI sounds like a very small upgrade and more like you are bored
go for a walk, buy some groceries and come back after giving it a think

>>107184395
primary timings are simple. it either posts or it doesnt. subtimings are when it gets hard because it can post but then not be stable because your extra fps causes your gpu to run hotter and that is enough to make dram unstable.

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>>107184342
You're just proving NVIDIA was right to drip-feed performance gains for these cards.
People will upgrade every generation.

>>107184451
It's more about me not thinking ahead of the 8gb vram hurdle

>>107181725
Good AIOs are designed to run at least 6 years w/o maintenance.
The leakage problem has been solved by the industry long ago, it's no rocket science. Just don't buy the absolute cheapest chinkshit there is, buy decent quality. I can recommend Arctic. I own several generations of theirs, all still working flawlessly! Most accidents btw are custom loop mishaps that are then ascribed to liquid cooling in general but AIOs have only few possible leakage points and these are usually permanently sealed by the manufacturers except perhaps for the cooler part that has screws and can be opened.

>>107181769
> AIOs never need maintenance
Some have a refill port. At least one AIO from beQuiet has. If the pump even survives long enough for enough water to diffuse (not leak) through the tubes or sealings to make a refill necessary you could easily refill distilled water there. I once refilled water in an old Arctic AIO, it wasn't really needed though. This required the disassembly of the cooler but I was doing a pump mod to get an RPM signal and had the pump already partly disassembled. I was just being curious. This old AIO is still running in one of my PCs here, despite me disassembling and reassembling it. Arctic has thus been proven idiot-resistant.

>>107184342
How expensive is the Asus Prime, it's often goes to MSRP and it has a metal backplate and thermal pads on the back even though is an entry model, if you are for europe then look into the INNO3D 2x. For MSI avoid Ventus, Galax looks pretty cheap so it could be worse, maybe post what are the specifics models that are close to MSRP in your country

If you need the 16GB and want peace of mind in case prices get retarded for the shortage then go ahead, as is a workstation/AI viable card you will always be able sell it for a decent amount of what you paid off, make sure you do a little bit before the supers if you are looking to upgrade in the future, it'will also be a solid upgrade, you should 100% look into OC the memory/clocks 5060 ti though, most of the models gain between 7% to 15% fps in most games without increasing the power.

>>107181976
> local AI models
You will be disappoint, son.

>>107184451
most people upgrade every gen because nvidia cards rarely drop off in prices in the used market , i sold my workstation 4060 TI a little bit less than what i paid for so when i got a 5060 TI to replace it it was extra cheap, its a really good card, just look how much a 3060/ti with 12gb, 4060 TI 16gb, a 3090, or a 4090 is worth, any of the cards that are used for work/AI shit have retain pretty good value in the used market

>>107184516
you were supposed to think about that before getting the shitty 4060

>>107184576
Explain pls

>>107184342
The MSI Shadow 2x dual fan is pretty good
>>107184516
don't let anons being mean stop you

>>107182851
Lol

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>Day2 post 2 continuing coping with 55" Tv Tests
tv flickers black every time I change window sizes on say chrome, what the fuck is this? makes it unusable as monitor
think its related to hardware acceleration
any jeet that can confirm?

I might have made a mistake, I might have to go back to QDOLED

>>107180835
>This can be 3 things:
just basic bitch va slop lcd tv, none of the things were answered here

>>and it's related to hardware acceleration or something and is app dependent?
>I dont think it is.
changing rendered on mpc hc changes behavior while fullscreening
running hardware accel on chrome and minimizng increasing it causes flicker, still

nothing was answered

>>107180850
did not answer the question

>>107182956
2x32 6000c30 is 300 buckaroonies
the only buyable tier
anyone who does not buy is retard

>>107184762
I got 32gb cl36 for <130€
I shall not buy ram until am6 rolls round

>>107184752
>Trying to minimize and increase window size right now nothing happens aka no black fliuc
what the FUCK is this????? No idea what's causing it
I have no fucking space on my desk rn holy fuck tyhis is annoying more than anything

>>107184782
>32
doa
>c36
doa what mem chips is that? not some hynix? it's over

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I'll ask again since no one answered me in the previous thread. Is it normal for probably an ASIC controller for the Samsung 970 EVO Plus as a boot drive to be this high? I'm using a Gigabyte B850 heatsink. The temp never goes past 75°C in the CrystalMark benchmark, so I'm not sure if the heatsink is properly contacted or not.

>>107184247
Bought mine for 750€ on monday. Its only a gigabyte sff version but hey, its 5070 ti at "msrp". Not gonna get better than that in europe.

>>107182298
yep hope it don't block your ram

>>107184803
If it wasn't making contact it would overheat almost immediately as the heatsink+pad would act like an insulator.
Maybe it could be better with a remount but 75c is like no where near danger zone.

Kinda hard to figure out what's normal on M.2 temps since each situation is really different between different heatsinks, different pads, different airflow, etc. Because of this you just kinda look at the temps themselves if they are ok

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>Tandem WOLED slop (using RGB Tandem in marketing term to confuse buyers and imply it's true RGB) still loses to QD in color volume due to white subpixel shenanigans
>Reviewers note that bumping up brightness only washes out image more trying to increase brightness on tandem to compete with QD even compared to older gen WOLED, sad!
I hereby officially cancel Tandem monitors and claim QD still being the winner still

>look at BF sales and see asus PG32 gonna be hitting an alltime low in price here
>consider buying again
>should have bought this monitor last winter and I would have been happy
>wait an entire year for the shit to hit the same low price as a year earlier
>cope with multiple other models and copes to end up here
>the LG 45" 4K uw is gonna be price cut 1000€ here too - I must resist the WOLED Slop!
Nope, 27" or 32" QDOLED is literally end game for now until higher res' or hz of the same monitor releases, there is nothing more, well I have not tried a LG C 42" yet but it will have lower hz and woled still

maybe I was wrong shilling the TV Pill all along or trying other things, who knew I was already right from the get go, just avoid shitty firmware

it's over, truly

I had
680
1080
3080
are you really saying 5070TI is better than 5080? It doesn't seem right? They have the same gpu and VRAM why? And why is there no FE 5070TI?

>>107184917
Its not better, its better value for money. 5080 is of course stronger, just not as much sa people wanted/hoped for.

>>107184892
if it does I'm just gonna kill myself.

>>107184907
isn't SSDs throttling when temp past certain point to reduce it?

Who makes good Nvidia cards? Considering trying to get a 5070ti during bfcm sales.

>>107184917
9070xt

Pixel Rate
380.2 GPixel/s
Texture Rate
760.3 GTexel/s
FP16 (half)
97.32 TFLOPS (2:1)
FP32 (float)
48.66 TFLOPS
FP64 (double)
1.521 TFLOPS (1:32)

5070ti

Pixel Rate
235.4 GPixel/s
Texture Rate
686.6 GTexel/s
FP16 (half)
43.94 TFLOPS (1:1)
FP32 (float)
43.94 TFLOPS
FP64 (double)
686.6 GFLOPS (1:64)

bigger number is better

>>107185032
EU Bro here Their nvidia drivers suck I chose the 9070xt instead. much more stable on windows 11.

>>107184917
>And why is there no FE 5070TI?
NVIDIA's throwing a bone to board partners.

>>107183310
good VA panels > IPS, by a long shot

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>>107185036
This is what Radeon copers do, they stare at TechPowerUp/GPU-Z's Theoretical Performance section.
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-rx-9070-xt.c4229

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what linux OS should I put on my new pc? switching from win10. I was thinking mint because it's marketed as an entry into linux from windows but then I read in the other thread that it's bloated javascript slop.

>>107184917
5080 is better than 5070ti but only like 10-15% for $200 more, it isn't worth it

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>>107183037
You can buy 2x32GB kits that make stable CL28 without tuning, just EXPO enabled. I paid €235 for such a kit, Trident Z5 Neo, in spring this year. I can't believe it's now sold for more than €600, picrel. Did the whole world go out of their mind?

>>107181501
Is it true that next gen of consoles will have 8 cores so it's better to buy an 8 core CPU if you want longevity?

>>107185043
That was my plan originally, but would prefer not to by AMD since they cut support for my current card (Vega) kinda early and now they even stopped implementing new software features for the older RDNA generations. I want something that'll last me for a few years.

>>107185032
MSI just dont get their entry shit like the ventus, rather than brand you should look into non SFF models as those usually have a beefier coolers, it's also dependant, i personally avoid Zotac though and don't over pay for OC models, they are the same as non OC

>>107185089
*buy

>>107185085
who the fuck knows but you can just pick a 7800x3d and get 8 cores and the best value cpu

>>107185062
make no mistake there is no entry level into linux where it basically acts like windows. Nothing about any linux distro is like Windows at all none of them not even the ones that pretend to look like windows. Everything is completely different.

>>107185091
aight, thanks for the advice

>>107185117
what are the differences? i mean, on the user side, an OS is basically... a filesystem + terminal? and im already familiar with linux terminal

>>107185089
>>107185101
you cant buy old gen so why is it relevant now? you are buying current gen. current gen nvidia drivers are unstable on the two most used OS on the planet. do you even use computers or you're a apple jit?

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>>107185085
AMD is jumping to 12 core CCDs next and games already ask for 8 cores on low. Intel (lol) abandoned low core counts entirely already with big little sloppa. Only 9800X3D boys are on 8 cores and you can 100% guarantee they are going to throw them away when zen6 X3D comes out.

8 cores is fine for now. Much like 32 GB is fine for now. For longevity not a chance.

If you buy Nvidia now you're a stupid cunt. Doesn't work on Linux. Windows suck shit for professional and gaming unless you absolutely need ADOBE (which is webshit now for mactards)

>>107185159
good morining nicotroon saaar i see you've done the needful and abandoned avatarfagging

>>107185151
It's a pattern of them not supporting their older hardware properly anymore, you tard.

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>>107185027
That's 90C+
75C isn't really that close, some drives may start doing it 85C but that's not most

>>107185043
> uses windows 11 instead of win10 LTSC
Bloody early adopter noobs like you shouldn't be allowed to give their ill advise here.
I still haven't run into a single problem with my 5070Ti and I try out almost every other new game torrent that gets seeded.
Which particular game do I have to install to experience any driver issues?

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>>107185159
if you boughted after the 30 series I feel sorry for you having an NPC chip in your head

>>107185152
Do you think buying a 14400f with 6 cores + 4 estrogen cores would be better than getting a 7500f for longevity?

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I've narrowed it down to two

>>107185240
No because AM5 will always be a drop in CPU away to a big upgrade in the future.

>>107185242
If you can't buy the Meshify 3 at a discount (around $116) get the HAVN.

>>107185242
microatx or ITX even

>>107185242
Get the cheapest one. Make sure to include the price of fans if you need to buy more case fans.

>>107185159
According to this guy Nvidia drivers on linux will be fixed soon and go fully open source THOUGH
https://youtu.be/JpXINAMaljA

Is the XG27ACG good?

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>>107185262
They come with fans I won't be buying any they're already expensive.

>>107185152
> AMD is jumping to 12 core CCDs next
> jumping
> next
In just two more weeks? 8-cores will last longer for gaming than any other component in a modern PC. You will run through several GPUs before more CPU cores become necessary.

>>107185284
Then get the Fractal.

>>107183287
>>107183395
I see.
And realistically, how much of a performance difference am I likely to see between CL30 and CL34 at the same 6000 speed?

>>107185300
Unless you're actually benchamarking you won't see a difference.

7500x3d dropped
Sucks ass due to lower clockspeed? No way 2 less cores make it that much shittier than 9800x3d

>>107185452
why would it be anywhere near it when the 7600X3D is nowhere near it

>Prices and therefore recommendations are for the time being in flux

so when

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>>107181625
>>107181625
Please to be helping me saars.

>>107185477
flux mean increasing and when = forever

>>107183016
Based waitmaxxer

>>107185477
Prices won't get better any time soon; memory chip manufacturers are prioritizing shipments to large-scale data center & enterprise customers.
You need to find good discounts on other PC components to offset the bullshit memory prices.
It's the same thing people had to cope with when video card prices were insane.

>>107183294
Chatgpt is free anon

Is a 280 rad really that much worse and louder than a 360 rad? 2x140 can't be that louder than 3x120

>>107185036
not falling for another amd gpu

>>107181501
Finally pulled the trigger on the MSRP Asus Prime 5070ti, first Nvidia card ever in 12 years of Gayming. Ofc my one departure from waitfaggery and team red will probably bite me somehow, I know how this works.

>>107185269
It apparently has a less aggressive matte coating compared to the XG27ACS, and has an external power brick. Other specs are the same.
The current US$200 price is decent imo.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/tFG2FT/asus-rog-strix-xg27acg-270-2560-x-1440-180-hz-monitor-90lm0a70-b013b0

>>107185648
if i look at AI for help i wont be able to complain when the prices of ram keep rising

>>107185677
good stuff anon that card looks great, enjoy your shit

>>107185662
280 is better than 360, more surface area

buy your ram now but when the shortage ends and the flood of cheap ram begins don't cry

we saw the same happen with ssds they can't correct the market immediately

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>>107185662
>Is a 280 rad really that much worse and louder than a 360 rad?
Not really, Corsair's 280 & 360mm AIOs perform similarly @ lower noise levels.

>>107185702
>flood of cheap ram begins don't cry

5100/76 ram made from the purest chinknisium

>>107185702
By the time ram is cheap again you will be worrying about the price of beans and rice.

>>107185677
Cheapest 5090 in stock is more than 3x as much as a 5070 ti on sale.. really makes me think if it really is diminishing returns worth

>>107185686
Then why ask for advice if youre only going to complain when things dont go your way

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>>107185152
I mean, Doom TDA ended up not requiring 8+ cores in any capacity, game runs perfectly fine on 6 core CPUs
I have a 5700X and @60fps it's just using up like 4 threads @2ghz or less while the rest is barely doing anything
same with Borderlands 4, had 8 cores in the min or rec specs, game runs like shit but doesn't end up running particularly better on 8 cores vs 6 cores on the same architecture
We're baaarely starting to get to a point where a few games here and there start seeing noticeable gains with more than 6 cores (and even then they're far from unplayable on those cpus)
same with 32gb, 98% of games still run fine on 16gb, 32gb is starting to become a little bit more useful and is already nice to have for large simulations and some strategy games, but they're more than enough for the vast vast majority of cases, and will remain so for a good long while, just like 16gb was perfectly fine for a zillion years

>>107185702
Anyone who still needs this advice is too stupid to act on it. I told my friend to buy RAM over a month ago because it was going to go crazy and now he’s over here complaining that he can’t afford it. Maybe you should have listened?

How bigs the jump from a 3080ti to a 5080?

>>107185775
Daniel Owen tested Outer W?lds on a 5600X, all the cores were maxed out.

>>107185803
look at benchmarks and divide the difference with the fps of the lower card and you arrive at the percentage increase

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>>107185803
example benchmark
native 1440p max settings

>>107185242
What made you opt against the Antec? It's the one I was considering going with.

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The Steam Machine will save the budget PC gamers (AMD APU with RDNA3.0 GPU cores). With F-S-SAAR.
https://store.steampowered.com/sale/hardware

>>107185877
I heard the case rattles and people have problems with the stock fans and noise they make. Right now they say meshify/BF are quietest.

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We're not going to get any black Friday deals, are we?
The only thing black Friday is for are those shitty purpose built black Friday tvs with hamster wheel processors that have a delay when you press the arrow keys and you have to wait 5 seconds after landing on an app to click OK to launch it.

>>107185883
>the gabecube
absolutely vile

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The RX 7600 GPU has 32 CUs and 2655 MHz boost clock specs for reference.

>>107185883
Ramlets rejoice!
>CPU
Semi-custom AMD Zen 4 6C / 12T
up to 4.8 GHz, 30W TDP
>GPU
Semi-Custom AMD RDNA3 28CUs
2.45GHz max sustained clock, 110W TDP
>RAM
16GB DDR5 + 8GB GDDR6 VRAM

>6650xt keeps crashing, logs telling me it's a kernel problem
>tried every recent kernel
>older ones crash for other reasons
>tried a bunch of voodoo workarounds that did nothing
I'm going insane trying to make this work, worried another AMD card would run into the same issue. Are Intel cards still a meme? Are Nvidia/Intel cards even worth getting for linux?

current PC is:
3700x
b450 Motherboard
2x8Gb DDR4 Ram
1660 super
550W PSU
want to upgrade to
RTX 5080
850W PSU
2x16Gb DDR4 added to the original 16Gb
I just found out about the 5080 super with 24Gb vram but doesn't look like its coming out in the next year honestly. And If and when it does I could sell the 5080 to make it cheaper to get the super. My main use case is local AI generation and I haven't been cpu limited yet as far as I can tell. Also mixing RAM seems like its not recommended but could work. Any concerns here?

>>107185945
had the same problem. trying disabling pcie aspm in your bios and maybe update your bios too.

>>107185948
>any concerns here?
Your rampant porn addiction, for one.

>cattle still waitfagging for 5000 supers
lol, lmao even

>>107185983
Is it better to buy the 32Gb new ram and just sell the old 16Gb rather than keep it and mix it in the system? Also will probably upgrade cpu early next year or maybe I'll wait for the next release of AMD Cpus depending on if I feel like I need it.

>>107186003
well yea but we're talking about PC parts here

>>107185983
>don't mix ram
Isn't ram mixing fine if you buy a set of the same sticks you had already? Also, what's this rumor I've heard about AM5 chips having a conniption if you use all four ram channels?
>>107185744
If you're considering a 5090 and a 5070ti in the same breath I reckon you'd probably be fine with a 5070ti. Buy a dirt bike or stonks or many fine dinners instead.

>>107185948
If it's for AI not sure you need a 5080, the most important thing for AI is VRAM rather than speed to fit larger models so a 5080 seems incredibly overkill, your best option is a used 3090 if you really want 24 GB Vram, there are sites that allow you to rent GPU's and test it like runpod or Vast.ai for less than 2$ the hour, rent a 5080, 5070 ti, 5060 ti 16gb and test whatever you want to run locally and see which one fits your need, the only difference between them will be the speed and tokens rather than the quality of the models

>>107183170
The alternative is whatever happens to be priced relatively okayish

>>107185935
>8GB VRAM on a desktop

It's okay when Valve do it

>>107185945
>6650xt keeps crashing, logs telling me it's a kernel problem
post the logs
>worried another AMD card would run into the same issue
i never had any issues at all in several years of dailying the 6800 XT on linux
with the 9070 XT i have to apply
https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/agd5f/linux/-/commit/288ec2b5d06d5813c1f01d297c572b9e0a58dddf
and
https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/agd5f/linux/-/commit/b73f8017e6467eb35e0d1a5448620d18178183c3
or one of my monitors will freeze with freesync enabled

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>>107185935
The GPU is most likely a semi-custom 7600M XT, expect 90~100 FPS in TimeSpy (non-Extreme).
The Steam Machine will probably cost around $500~700.
https://benchmarks.ul.com/hardware/gpu/AMD+Radeon+RX+7600M+XT/review
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-rx-7600m.c4014

>>107186026
5060ti has the same amount of VRAM as the 5080. I don’t see how the 5080 is going to help you all that much and it’s going to be bottlenecked to shit by your CPU when you take a break from gooning to play a game.

>>107185935
If Valve literally a game developer are saying that's all you need for playing games at 4K60 why are people buying so much more for gaming?

>>107186037
I'm buying G.SKILL Trident Z Neo which is the same type as what I originally bought but the new ones will have more capacity, but If I can mix them and just get extra 16Gb that would be Ideal especially since If I upgrade cpu + motherboard next year or in a few years I need to buy new Ram anyways

Best gpu do give someone you HATE

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>>107186099
>all you need for playing games at 4K60
Except they're most likely advertising 4K60 with F-S-SAAR 3 performance setting.
The GPU can barely render Steel Nomad (modern raster 4K benchmark) @ 20 FPS.
A literal game developer says you need upscalers for 4K gaming.

>>107186132
Namefag kys

>>107186086
i think a 4nm navi 33 could be a hueg upgrade to the vanilla one
i just hope the antiamdnigger didnt wake up yet

>>107186135
>A literal game developer says you need upscalers for 4K gaming.
So does AMD Nvidia and all the other gamedevs
Only youtubers and redditors say everything has to run at native

>>107186066
>>107186099
Yea thought about getting the 5060ti or 5070 with 16Gb vram but I figure might as well get as much speed as I can afford, and the 5080 is faster than the 3090 in benchmarks but the 24Gb Vram is tempting. Not sure which is better speed vs memory, it seems like memory is needed for some models to even load, but If the models I want to try already fit in 16Gb might as well just go for speed. might rent some Gpus and test, the AI space moves pretty fast too, I also do Graphics programming and getting the latest features would be nice.

>>107186142
I wish I could give you a 5090.

>>107186214
whoops meant for >>107186088

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>>107186153
AMD nor Valve is wasting money porting the garbage that is RDNA3 to a costlier 5/4nm TSMC node.
The Steam Machine GPU's 110W TDP vs. the 90W TDP for the 6nm 7600M shows this isn't a 4nm port of the garbage.
Valve chose this specific set of APUs because it's cheap & unpopular amongst laptop manufacturers.
Laptop manufacturers don't want power-inefficient RDNA 3.0 GPUs; that's why an RDNA 3.5 respin exists in the first place.

The Steam Deck's APU also originated from an APU design that Microsoft's Surface division passed on.
Valve is finding cheap AMD APUs to feed gaymers for their 30% Steam store cut.

>antiamdnigger
Calling the garbage RDNA3 for what it is doesn't mean I'm taking sides.

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>>107182420
>Id like to make it kinda "future proof"
shut, the absolute, FUCK. UP.

>>107186238
do we know how much this thing will cost?

>>107186135
>>107186099
its using open source custom version of fsr4. 4k 60fps is very possible if they're using custom rdna3 that accelerates the int8.

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>>107186269
>its using open source custom version of fsr4
No, it isn't. That GPU isn't good enough to run modded FSR4 at 4K 60 FPS.
Enjoy the blurry garbage either way.

>>107185948
>hi guys my current PC is outdated and I used to own entry-level parts
>I'm gonna buy a 5080!!!

>>107186294
Is there one to fix the skin?

wow this nigger can see the future
now tell me when are (you) getting that 5070 super to replace the 4060

>>107186299
well yea I bought this PC like 4 years ago and It was never supposed to be some super gaming machine, because I don't game that much. But now I have more money and an actual use case so I'm trying to upgrade

>>107186331
he's the seething jobless amdrone you can ignore his sperg outs

>>107186260
Probably around $600~800. The memory market will probably fuck over the pricing.
It's got a discrete laptop GPU, not an APU.
An external GPU with a similar 7600M XT chip costs over $600.
https://gpdstore.net/product/gpd-g1/

>>107186350
Fair enough. Even if it's slightly less powerful than a PS5 you have the advantage of Steam OS and you don't need to pay for your own darn internet.

>>107186132
7600xt
Really any amd gpu

is this gud
https://www.displayspecifications.com/en/model/473b4395

>>107186370
You hate me.

>>107186294
hey look its the nvidia spammer

>>107186371
Should be okay, I'm pretty sure HKC is a monitor OEM/ODM.

>>107186371
>ips slop
I'm sure It's okay, could always do better of course

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>>107186381
More like I'm using that image to refute the FSR4 INT8 copers.
Enjoy your compromised upscaler.

>>107186294
I think it's very based you kept in the rtx vsr thing from when I first posted this

>>107186392
>>107186393
ips/mini are okay
1440p >180hz is a must

>>107186415
yep its the nvidia spammer

https://item.jd.com/100121756663.html

i hope china ship this to brazil one day

is push or pull better for exhaust aio?

>>107185945
Obvious question: is it undervolted?

>>107186370
that's faster than integrated graphics.
if you really want to bully someone give them an nvidia gt card. those are slower than their contemporary integrated graphics

>>107181501
Who the fuck has patience to cable manage like this?

>>107183224
It's pretty good, yes. If you don't wanna spend on a 32" Odyssey G7, it's the monitor I'd probably recommend getting the most, or the G4XMN if it's available where you're at.

>>107186576
buying third party custom cables is the only way this is possible from what i understand.

>>107181677
>over 4 thousand dollars and you only get 2tb of space
Hand rubbing intensifies.

>>107186623
>32" Odyssey G7
*Neo G7

>>107183224
get the newer version or the ktc

>>107186576
its not really about patience but the case, material and cables needing to be bought for the occasion

the sane option is you buy whatever case you want, use stock cables, dont bother to buy extra cable accessories and do a good enough job on the visible side and stuff cables where they fit on the backside

>>107186629
I understand that but what's the point? I just realized it's for man children who would otherwise be building their lego death star.

>>107186350
Retard here, arent APU's completely fucked over the storage/ram shortage as they use LPDDR which goes into mobile device so you'll have every smartphone manufacture competing for them

>>107186704
Pricing for anything that needs memory chips is fucked in the near future.
Steam Machine has a discrete CPU + GPU, but it's fucked either way (16GB DDR5 memory + 8GB GDDR6 VRAM).

>>107186674
>I understand that but what's the point?
I can made serviceability easier
Well managed cables make MB swaps trivial

>>107186704
>>107186756
RAM prices will stabilize.
The shock you see in desktop RAM has a good bit of vendors and retailers taking advantage of the situation at the moment

sure
just wait until you buy goy

>>107186770
>unplug everything
>remove screws
>pull out the motherboard
>never even open the back panel
You can do that no matter what is going on in the back. But you might not be able to just plug in a different width motherboard if you managed your cables like this >>107181501

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Is this ok or should I build a computer? best laptop I have right now, got on craigslist for 400$. I want to start encoding when AV2 comes out.

Looking at the recommended AIO’s in the first post, which one is recommended with the least amount of pump noise?

I’m in the process of RMA’ing a NZXT AIO due to the ridiculously loud pump (was way too loud anywhere between 55%-100%, 55-90% would be louder than 100%)
I don’t mind purchasing a new AIO but I don’t want to get another shit product

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>>107186804
>RAM prices will stabilize.
Not for a while, AI companies' orders are being counted in wafers.

>>107186839
It's really REALLY a luxury more than anything else to be fair
If I had unlimited funds my home server would get custom cables since cables are actually not routed through the back and the atx cable needs only about 5 in

>>107186704
I bet it's just a manufactured crisis to scam bunch of money out of people like they are doing with GPU's. Everything is dependent on consumers, if most people panic-buys now, then the prices will be high for at least a year, if most just waits out a moth or two then the prices will come down.
But like we learned under covid, people just love panic-buying with inflated prices for no reason at all other than to be able to post about it online.

>>107186900
They're allocating fewer memory chips to the consumer market; it's a supply shortage.

>>107186896
They will sooner than you think
If people realized just how much they where being scammed in the PC market, you wouldn't buy the shit when it was regular priced.
This just happens to be prime FOMO time right now.

>>107186927
They will be saying that while at the same time there will be ram of every possible specification in stock in every computer store in the world you have never even heard of located in bum fuck nowhere, just with a different price tag.

>>107186935
>>107186989
We're in a time where small-scale servers and enterprises are buying up DDR4 RAM as well.
You're just being a contrarian for the sake of it.

>>107187018
No I'm not
You just want to believe that the market is completely organic an not a single person will ever be taken advantage of.
>Are the DRAM prices higher?
Yes
>Do they have to be as high as we are seeing?
No

>>107186935
post nose

>>107186935
i doubt that anon, the ps5 did a price hike on september before this even begin, which coincide with HBM4 memory entering production and them closing on contracts with several companies

https://news.skhynix.com/sk-hynix-completes-worlds-first-hbm4-development-and-readies-mass-production/

Basically all happen on september when the new HBM4 memory passed tests

>>107187018
>We're in a time where small-scale servers and enterprises are buying up DDR4 RAM as well.
DDR4 is ewaste, all the platforms that run it are ewaste
Ebay bag holders just want an excuse to double their profits

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>>107187040
PC component seller and builders don't even know how many memory kits they'll be receiving for their next shipments.
There's a shortage. Not everything has to be a conspiracy.
New memory chips are being delivered to server kit manufacturers.
That's the new normal for the next few years.

>>107187040
>>Do they have to be as high as we are seeing?
this is the part i dont believe, basically all productions and wafer that would be destinied to current ram is now being redirected towards mass HBM4 production, who knows what margins are these retards expecting you to pay for continue to produce non data center ram when companies are willing to pay stupid prices for HBM4 and how bigger the margins are on smartphone and lpddr

>>107187070
Except new DDR4 kits have been rising too, you don't know better than the sellers & distributors who are feeling the supply shortage.

casual reminder that they had to start making ddr4 modules again

>>107187091
Because there was demand from server & enterprise customers to keep replacement stock, not for DIY.

next thread
>>107187090
>>107187090
>>107187090

>>107187018
>You're just being a contrarian for the sake of it.
Why do you think so? There are clearly a pattern of periodic "supply shortages" ever since the first mining boom and somehow no matter how much more chips can be manufactured every year since then there are periodic "totally real" silicone shortages. I don't know how, but this shit needs to be somehow regulated. It's obviously not real. Why the hell would the prices increase only now when every company that works with AI says they have more GPU's than they have power to run them? Why would the prices increase when gigantic AI companies already operate for years and aren't in their rapid growth stage anymore? None of this shit makes any sense.

>>107187063
Again, not denying prices will go up, I'm just not at all convinced they NEED to be as high as we are seeing.

>>107187076
>There's a shortage. Not everything has to be a conspiracy.
Everything is a conspiracy until I get an itemized list of all the production inputs, processes, and margins that go into a DIMM. Until then why should I trust pricing is correct for what is going on?
Telling everyone this is just a new normal is just playing into someone's hand

i just read the second part of the op
>futureproofing with 8, 10 and 12gbvram
and this nigger is the saviour of /pcbg/? lmao

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>>107187145
Because this is the largest ever data center infrastructure build-out, don't even refer to the bitcoin mining boom.
Money isn't the bottleneck for these customers.

>>107187146
>playing into someone's hand
Enjoy the rising memory chip prices then.