>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICEPost build list or current specs: https://pcpartpicker.com/Provide specific use casesState BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped>CASEmATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME, X50Dual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision, Antec C8>CPUGaming: 14600K, 9/7600X, 7800X3D-Budget: 12400, 12600K, 7500FWorkstation: 265K, 285K, 9950X3D*Avoid Asrock motherboards on AM5*On Raptor Lake microcode updates should be considered mandatory, avoid second-hand>COOLERAIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Lian Li Galahad II Lite, Corsair Nautilus RS, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (unhandy mounting solution)ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67TIM: MX-6, MX-4, Duronaut>RAM*Prices and therefore recommendations are for the time being in fluxDDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AM5), 6400CL32 (LGA 1700)Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget.), 2x48GB or 2x64GB (high-end)>SSD (Keep firmware updated)Budget: SN7100, NM790High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)Premium: SN8100https://borecraft.com/>GPUBudget: Arc B580, 9060xt 8gb (~$270)-Used: 2060 Super, 2070, 2080ti*8gb has become a major constraint even at 1080pMidrange: 5060ti 16GB, 5070-Used: 3080, 3080ti, 4070 (~$380)4k : 5070ti, 9070xt-Native: 5090>PSUBuying guide:https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/>MONITOR1080p: 24" 165/180hz, KTC H25X71440p: 27" 165/180hz IPS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED), ASUS XG27AQWMG (WOLED)4K: KTC M27P6 (miniLED)>OSActivate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt>CASE FANSMeta: Case with good stock PWM fansMidrange: Arctic P12 Pro, P14 Pro (5-pack, loud @ higher RPM)High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)
>News & RumorsRTX 50 Super: 2026 launch? 24GB VRAM for 5070 Ti & 5080 Super, 18GB for 5070 Super.Nova Lake 2026Dual 3d cache "9950X3D2"Redstone "Ray Regeneration" is in Black Ops 7New Steam hardware>Product NoticePNY RTX 50 cards have QC issues (rattling fans, reports of 5070 & 5090 with blown capacitors)Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/>PSU Reviewshttps://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplieshttps://www.lttlabs.com/https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-suppliesFor tier-list enjoyers:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/>Storage Reviews https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.htmlhttps://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSDhttps://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews>Monitor Hunterhttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/>Omissions-9800X3D: ~10% improvement in gaming over a 7800X3D (which is still in production)-9060xt 16gb: Performance variable compared to 5060ti, consider cheaper second hand options like the 3080-9070: Currently more expensive than the 5070-Q27G40XMN: Early shipments had firmware that effected local dimming with no way to update, otherwise considered a great monitor for the price.-"Futureproofing": Nvidia gpus in general have been aging better than Radeon regardless of vram or marginal differences in raw performanceLeave any constructive suggestions for edits to the op. Is slowly being worked on.Pic:>>107193118>>107193167Previous:>>107194313
>>107198244>2026 launch?waitfags LOSTED50-series buyers fucking WONNERED
>Steam machineWhat's the fucking point? Just build your own pc.
>>107198275Assuming it costs 500-600 euro, you really can't get a PC in that same form factor, with similar specs, for a similar price.
Heya, still trying to get a gaming rig going (minus the gpu which will get replaced later, the SSD stays.)For 1k euro shekels, am from germany.https://pcpartpicker.com/list/d27kVFWith some of your guy's suggestions, I got this far.Any case recommendations that don't have glass panels? I'm really not a big fan of those. Also ram would be helpful too. If it's slightly above budget that's fine.
>>107198275I think it looks good and was planning on doing a mini ITX build anyways. if it's priced well, might as well.
>>107198309If you want a gamble, you can get a 9800X3D from AliExpress.As for cases, Fractal North Mesh is pretty good. A lot of cases have mesh options these days.
I bought a second 7900XTX for AI. Thoughts on my poor buying habits?
>>107198349>AMD for AIbless your sovl
>>107198354https://github.com/ggml-org/llama.cpp/discussions/10879Until the 9700 can be obtained by mortals the 7900XTX is still the secret OP GPU for llama.cpp.
anons I cant decidedo I buy the 9070 xt Nitro or Mercury OC?>more silent fans>$50 cheaper>nice design>but 12 vhpwrMercury>3x8 pin>better thermals>even better design>but larger>$50 more expensive>louderIll be putting my pc on my desk so I am not sure which one to go with
>>107198275the answer to that will depend entirely on the price, it could be either a novelty toy or a godsend to the poor
>>107198406gabe is buying a literal yacht factory he is not about to send gifts to the poor
>5070ti + 9800x3d + 1440p 144hz monitor, arriving tomorrowFirst build in my life where I actually had money to buy something nice.Upgrading from a 1060 6gb + 2600x.What am I in for bros?
>>107198442wew that's a step up
>>107198442>>107198464a step up to driver issues city
>>107198412well that explains valve's stick up the ass and them shitting out all these products i guess gaben needs more boat making money before he makes money making boats
>>1071983983x8 is a pain in the ass to get a PSU for if you're looking to buy multiple.
What is the best am5 ITX motherboard? I'm thinking about the Asus B850-I for my 9950x3d.I don't want any dongle or daughterboard bullshit.
>>107198534>am5 ITX motherboard?there are like 3
>>107198293If you were willing to buy a used GPU and settle for the slightly larger μATX form factor you could build a 500USD PC that's equivalent to a PS5 and by extension better than a ValveBox a year ago and prices for aging hardware have only dropped in the meantime.
>>107198541>slightly larger μATX form factorSo not the same?
has there been ANY progress on manufacturing costs of microled? I'm not buying a fucking OLED
>Considering Linux>See Pic related>Instant NOany other alternatives? I'm just sick of windows...
>>107198558Why do you retards exist? Buy slop boxes if you're a gaming schizo. People buy PCs for more than just bing bing wahoo. Last time I checked schizoids like Nintendo don't even allow you to use a web browser on their shit let alone allow you to write software for it.
>>107198558this lmaoobnoxious anon BTFO
>>107198593Mac if you get a lobotomy and stop caring about "doing" things with your devices and more about "having" the devices.
>>107198593just avoid jeet distros i.e ubuntu and you'll be fine
>>107198442which 5070ti did you buy?I can't decide
I'm going to install bazzite on my new build, what am I in for?
>>107198875Disappointment and frustration
It was pretty confusing to test my aliexpress 7800x3d when the mobo setup asks "do you want x3d boost, it boosts ur x3d??" and I obv click yes I do want boosts for my 3d'sturns out that disables multithreading so cinebench goes "oh 8 cores with 8 threads" and the score was shit, but it behaves normally with x3d boost disabledeither my cpu is poorly binned or my air cooler is struggling but it immediately jumps to throttling temps when you run CB with 16 threads
870e still the latest amd mobos?
>>107198889>or my air cooler is struggling but it immediately jumps to throttling tempsyeah you're not realistically cooling that at full load with an air cooler. AIO buyers are god
>>107198889if you set ppt/tdc/edc to mobo default then yeah it will hit tjmax in cinebench or any shader compiling scenario.
>>107198924Which is funny, because you can actually cool a 9800x3d with a air cooler.
>>107198875meme os
>>107198943not really, thats the whole reason people buy that over a much cheaper 7800x3dyou know, the x3d is under the ccd which helps everything
>AMD puts out a new driver>already seeing people say there's issues like it just completely breaking Adrenalin, even if you roll back
>>107198955works on my machineamd says use their clean install tool if you have any issues. stop using ddu.
>>107198972https://www.amd.com/en/resources/support-articles/faqs/GPU-601.html
What are some decent usb microphones? The cloth filter fell off my headset mic so it sounds worse + my motherboard doesn't seem to have a lot of shielding so there's interference on aux in.
>>107198972>stop using ddu.>use amd ddu
I got an OLED monitor a few days ago and HDR has been a mess. So first of all i learned that despite my oled being able to do HDR 1000, if i have it enabled, just browsing websites or other such content, depending on how much white there is, it will get brighter or dimmer. A full screen 4chan burichan theme page is dimmer than my IPS SDR monitor. Also, HDR1000 displays blacks incorrectly as they are twice as bright, and you should only be running it in HDR400.After that, it also turns out windows has auto HDR, with no real penalty to performance in games, but it's not super accurate. Using nvidias RTX HDR makes SDR content have a lot more proper detail of how HDR is supposed to look, but i also lose between 8-20% in framerate with it on (more if i turn on rtx sharpen+).I cant believe how much of a god damn headache OLED and HDR turned out to be.
>>107198593Brother, Microsoft is RAN by a jeet.
>>107199043si
>>107199046>I cant believe how much of a god damn headache OLED and HDR turned out to be.Really? It's literally never been nothing but a nightmare
>>107199046rtx hdr is good for lower fidelity games, I couldnt run something like cp at 4k with it, the video hdr is a more useful feature. Some youtube videos look retarded without it. color banding and suchThe dimming issue is such that you may want to keep the lower max nits modes in regular use
Is the 9060xt 16gb paired with 7800x3d good for 1440p gaymen? I mostly play wow(lol) poe2, tw warhammer 3 and tarkov. I also want to try ack raiders and maybe fuck around with streaming
>>107199066Never looked into it before, but the OLED monitor that was sold here on newegg for 399 was tempting. Like, HDR does look nice in games when it works, but this just feels so fucking broken. Windows having the SDR slider with no explanation of what to set it is also a choice.>>107199072Yeah im still not really sure if im supposed to be using the ingame HDR10 thing in cyberpuk2077, or turning it off and running RTX hdr.
can anyone who jumped from 4090 to 5090 say if it was worth it?
>>107199079> if im supposed to be using the ingame HDR10 thing in cyberpuk2077, or turning it off and running RTX hdr.Well if the game has proper hdr implementation you'd always use that over post-processing sdr
>>107199074Probably be better off with a 5060ti9060xt would work though
>>107199086do people who buy 90s really upgrade after one generation?
how much could I sell a used 2080 for right now?
>>107199086no it wasnt worth it
>>107199086If you have to ask probably not
>>107199116Will depend on local market, probably not anymore than 180/190Online you already have the 2080ti going for that pretty frequently.
>>107199116just wait it'll be worth double next year
>>107199150that makes no sense it's just a shitty 2080
>>107199157there will be a gpu shortage next year
>>107199170not for fucking 8gb models, there is a sea of those already out there
>>107198309>>107198327https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/dTcdKqThis is how far I got but I'm a bit too much above the budget (1k Euros), I do want the 9800x3d to stay.Which parts should I get now and which parts should i wait on for a sale? (Germany)Also if anyone has part suggestions, I'm all ears.
when will waiting work
>>107199177why the x3d?
>>107198244> RTX 50 Super: 2026 launch?Yes, earliest in Q3.
idk what game to play on my new rtx 5080
>ram is now more expensive than moboswhat a fucking retarded timelinewhat's next for the AI takeover? are they gonna start daisy chaining power supplies?
>>107199206Anno 117
>>107198955The funniest thing is that they did put RDNA2 in the maintenance branch with polaris and vega lmao, they just combined both on the same download so tech illiterate retards that watch amd unboxed think they backtracked
>>107199239that's very convenient for me, I can use my Vega and RDNA2 without reinstalling drivers every time I switch
>>107199112I feel no need yet. Maybe when upgrading fom 4k to 5k2k display one day.
>>107199206Team Fortress 2
>>107199239this shit still says ati lmao
>>107199206arc raiders, Palworld, Helldivers 2. Arc and HD2 look amazing on pc. HD2 in particular, i love their lighting and physics engine.
>>107198244>RDNA 2 in maintenance branch>Redstone Ray regeneration actually decrease performance instead of increasing it in the new codAMDbros is over...
>>107199046Just disable ABL.>Also, HDR1000 displays blacks incorrectly as they are twice as bright, and you should only be running it in HDR400Never heard of this issue. In fact, the problem (with WOLEDS) is usually black crushing.
>>107199112If you can afford a 90s in the first place you basically have the money to do that
>>107199206path traced cp obviously
>>107199192Futureproofing
>>107198875just werkz for games and normal PC tasksbut if you have to install anything that's not in steam or the bazzite software "store" as a linux newbie you will be in pain
>>107199206Modded skyrim with 8k textures and the mod that runs a local chatbot directly into your companion/npcs
>>107199283its a legacy thing
>>107199046Oled looks incredible even without HDR. I've had mine for a couple weeks and haven't even turned it on yet. But you aren't supposed to have it on 24/7, why the fuck are you using it while browsing 4chan?
>>107199315>if you have to install anything that's not in steam or the bazzite software "store"Such as? Using simple git bash for work is the peak of my OS engagement so I'm a total noob here.
>>107199274Good idea.
>>107198889That's normal for a 7800x3d, it's just a really hot chip
>>107199460should've bought the 9800x3d then
>>107199292Monitor seems to have ABL low/med/high, no real off option. It's an MO27Q2.>>107199337Having to switch modes every time i play a game seems really odd to me. Like how is it not something windows does auto? Why do i have to force HDR off?
>>107198225Are those HDDs just not connected to anything?
>>107199476I dunno, HDR feels like a gimmick to me, might never use it desu. When I asked about it here I was l linked a bunch of super nerdy guides and told I need all this third party software and every game needs unique tweaking for it to maybe sometimes work if it rained last thursday. Honestly feels like way more bullshit than it's worth.
Any keyboard/mouse things worth recommending, I mainly see the logi k400 around but wondering if theres anything else that decent, ideally connects over 2.4 dongle rather than bluetooth.
What does this thread think about the 4060 now going for $200 used?
>>107199519Id rather get a gpu that can run videogames at many fps
when will the 9800x3d go on sale
>>107199568Its price is dropping almost every day
>>107199568Check newegg daily but the main black friday sales usually start on the 20th.
>>1071994639800x3d also runs even hotter in cinebench because it runs at much higher voltages and constant 5225mhz clockspeed
>>107199493I just tested it and with HDR on ingame from off, it really does look a lot nicer. The issue is just desktop mode.If i have HDR on, and go to this page:http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/black.phpNo matter how i slide SDR content brightness, the first few squares are clearly visible. However, if i disable HDR, the first square is not visible and it's how it should be.
Aldehayyat said that affordability is a factor Valve considers heavily every time it introduces a new piece of hardware. When it comes to the Steam Machine, it's planning to make it as affordable as possible."If you're trying to make a PC that has similar features and similar performance, I think the Steam Machine is going to be a really competitive price to that and provide really good value to it. The affordability piece you mentioned is one of the reasons why we think a Steam Machine makes a lot of sense right now. So it's just something that we thought about every time we made a hardware decision, a feature decision, is to make sure that we keep it as approachable, as affordable as possible," said Aldehayyat
>>107199519I'd ask for evidence
>>107199568when you don't have the money for it
>>107199605Valve has very little leverage when it comes to sourcing memory chips & storage drives at a price they want.They waited™ too long to launch the Steam Machine.
Okay so my case didn't come with screws for mounting my video card. I've read that #6-32 screws are typical, but the #6-32 screws I got from Home Depot are too large. I then tried to use one of the screws that I used to mount the PSU, the threads are apparently wrong. Not sure what to do now, but I am seriously considering taking a drill to the stupid thing and using nuts or zip ties to fasten the card instead. Anyone else have a better idea?
>>107199795What is your case?
>bought 32gb cl36 6000 for $229>could have saved $150 if I bought 1 month ago
>>107199813Antec NX200M. I checked the product's page but couldn't find any details about the screws.
I await the next Masterpiece from GamdiasThey can't be beat on innovation
>>107199846There are some PC building screw sets available online; the Antec case is probably using one of these standardized screws.https://www.amazon.com/Premium-Computer-Motherboard-Standoffs-Mounting/dp/B0DG2LFJP5
>>107199885everyone really needs one of those kits just in case of shit like this. They're cheap and can save your ass in a pinch.
Microcenter can you drop the fucking price of 7900xtx's please, I can see you have 30+ in stock not moving...
best long-lasting keyboard mouse pad? was thinking the Razer Strider Hybrid
>>107199885>>107199894I saw one of those but getting a 400-piece set seems pretty wasteful. I've been building my own systems since like 1998 and this is the first time I've had to go looking for screws like this.But I was going to order some RAM anyway, may as well toss that in. Thanks for the input.
>>107199476>Monitor seems to have ABL low/med/highGo into the service menu
>>107199835>32gb cl36 6000 for $229Wtf, I bought 32gb 6000mhz CL30 for 189 3 days ago. It was a XPG lancer with gay RGB, too.
>>107199975every time any kit gets restocked the price goes up
>>10719997564 GB of Patriot Viper Steel was on BHphotovideo for like $240 yesterday. It's $470 now. My stupid ass just had to wait.
>>107199954There's a 10 pc screw set, but it's the same 6-32 screw you mentioned.https://www.amazon.com/Computer-Case-Thumb-Screws-10PCS/dp/B0DMT2VHYG
>>107199981Its going to hit $300 by black friday at this rate>>107200000>he waited
>>107199585>black friday sales usually start on the 20th.Is it even a good idea to wait?
just keep on waiting goy
>>107200018For CPUs, yeah.
>>107200011Oh yeah, I tried those too, but the head is too big to get the screw in. I'll just get the 400-piece and hope one of them fits. If not, it's drill time.
>>107199177>https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/dTcdKqwith a 3070 you will be gpu bottlenecked with even a low end zen 4 ryzen so either get a better gpu or get a better deal on your ryzen 7 9800x3d or wait for zen 6 for a massive preformance uplift.
>>107199947>long-lasting keyboard mouse padWhy would you brandfag for this stupid shit that will last forever unless it's some temu garbage? I have one from some no name European office supply brand that cost me 20 bucks and has lasted years. Why would you pay a GAMING EDITION upcharge for a plain black cloth mat?
>>107200108idk seems high quality
>bought 2x32GB 6000cl30 ram 2 months ago>paid €240>is now €550Waitbabs... it's over...
>>107199947https://specterlabs.co/
>>107200176which ram factory flooded now?
>>107200146Get the QcK XXL Heavy. It feels great on your forearm and your mouse will glide smoothly.
>>107200019Yes I will, thank you rabbi
>>107200176>€
>>107200176Paid 200 american dollerydoos for 64gb of gskill flare ram during amazon prime day last month. Now it's over 500 dollars lmao. This world has gone insane I wake up every day expecting the sky to be purple and cows to fly.
>>107200194that's 0.86€ for you yank
>>107199932Seems to me like they're doing you a favor, preventing you from buying that trash heap
I was waiting for Intel Titan Lake (no more e-cores) & Arc Druid anyway.
can I get advice on 1440p monitors?gonna do video editing and gamingI looked at the ktc in the OP but it seems to have severe blooming issuesright now im between the aoc q27g3 and the xiaomi g pro 27i (both miniLed)the xiaomi is chinese part lottery (if you get a good monitor its really good it seems but its a toss up), the aoc seems more consistent but it has less dimming zones i thinkI'm ok with non mini Led ips, no Oleds cause I want this to last as much as my pc but mainly cause im sensible to fringing (i notice it too much) and many oleds have that issue
>>107199074PC gaming = NvidiaConsole gaming = Radeon
>>107200228
>>107200232I suggest an IPS monitor for video editing; VA monitors have worse viewing angles.Samsung G50D @ $200 is one of the better deals in the US.Dell Alienware AW2725DM @ $190, but I would check owner feedback since Dell has been selling worse entry-level 1440p gaming monitors since the G2724D.ASUS XG27ACG was discounted to $200 last night; maybe the sales offer will return.XG27ACS has a more aggressive matte panel finish than the -ACG, the rest of the features are the same, with some differences in hardware (-ACG has an external power brick and RGB backlight).You shouldn't have to pay over $220 for these monitors when they're discounted.
>>107198275Trojan horse for SteamOS
>>107199592>if i disable HDR, the first square is not visible and it's how it should be.You should be able to distinguish the first square, if only barely, in SDR mode. On Windows, the incorrect gamma curve used when compositing SDR content into HDR space will inadvertently raise black levels to where the first square is likely to be quite a lot brighter than black. I had this issue when playing Phasmophobia, where maps that weren't purely pitch-black would become very easy to navigate in the dark, even without a flashlight. There's nothing you can do about it in HDR mode, but you could try to install a custom ICC profile that corrects the issue. Or you can wait for Microsoft to fix it (lol) or install a different OS (lmao).
>>107198244>PNY RTX 50 cards have QC issues (rattling fans, reports of 5070 & 5090 with blown capacitors)I just bought a PNY 5070ti :( i was so on the fence on what to get, and now im a bit worried :(
>>107200318don't worry
>>107200318Just stress test it when it arrives. PNY has good RMA if there's any issue.
>>107200288I hate living in this shithole (Mexico)all those monitors are around 300 usdthe acg is closer to 350the acs is the most available and about 300 (with ""discount"" lmao)would the acS be a good choice or do I but the bullet on the acG?
this is nuts everything i wishlist just goes out of stock the next day driving me mad
>>107199874Can't wait to put my fish in these.
I can get this for 100 which is cheaper than the 850x I was looking at is this a good PSU?MSI MPG A850GS PCIE5 850 W
>>107200379I would get the -ACS if it's cheaper; that monitor got good reviews, and it has the same feature set as the -ACG.Do more local research, see if you can find the G2724D at a cheaper price.
>>107200441MSI, Asus, Corsair, they all use the propriety hardware of all PSUs.I forgot what the company was called but they're like the NVIDIA or AMD of PSUs. Other brands just take what they have and slap in new shit on it.But yeah, MSI makes decent PSUs. Just check the reviews if it blows up or not.
>>107200441Check the SPL tierlist.https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/>>107200512you can see who the ODM/OEM of the PSUs are on the list
>>107200524It has an A rating but I have no idea what semi-digital is supposed to mean in the notes for it
>>107195997That is if you have a motherboard speaker that plug into your board on the front case pinout. https://www.newegg.com/p/19S-0899-00001?item=9SIAKVEGTJ5835&utm_source=google&utm_medium=organic+shopping&utm_campaign=knc-googleadwords-_-accessories%20-%20motherboards-_-orange%20juice%20technology-_-9SIAKVEGTJ5835&source=region&srsltid=AfmBOoq4Pf4vgN6JEa8OlR4BrlgY4PuFKvC-LV5wj8icJyB5j87PxdCBIYQ
>>107200441wait it's got 2 12x2-6? What was MSI planning to do with two of those on an 850W PSU? One is a spare?
>>107200232oled for video editing. You get perfect blacks and aren't wondering what dark scenes really look like because of the shitty ips panel.
Nvidia just dropped a whole course on Neural Shading https://youtu.be/ZHKayVNqosEit's over for AMD
>>107200660>b-b-but it's FAKE shading>LOOK AT MY RASTER
>>107200660There is no hype release until resident evil on february though, i expect CES to have a new DLSS feature announcement that runs on that game.
>>107200687blackwell is gonna be the 20 series all over agair, isn'it?
My computer always POSTs 3 seconds after pressing the power button (based on the tweeter), but 10 days ago the computer took 30 seconds to POST (during that time the computer is all lit up with all fans spinning), and just today my computer took 30 seconds to POST. This is a random occurrence so I can't figure out what's delaying the POST. Should I be worried?CPU: 5700X3D (brand new)Motherboard: ASUS Prime X570-P (5 years old)RAM: 16 GB (5 years old)Crystal Disk Info didn't show any bad or failing drives
Better buy RAM now or wait till black friday?
>>107199046You should not be running hdr on desktop + you did not calibrate hdr on windows with the hdr calibration thingy from windows store + the built in "sdr" sliderbut yeah hdr is kinda meh regardless, but certain games look way better still idk>>107199189waiting meta died>>107200176can still find them for 300
>>107200921Dont wait.
>Day3 TV CopeStill wondering what's causing Windows 11 windows resizing/fullsizing causing full screen black flicker every time I change a window size, some timeswhat is this ?GPU hardware scheduling? nobody has been able to answer thisdoes not drop connection just full screen black flickerI mean that's plain unusable, not that I will continue using a tv either way, just wondering what the fuck this is
>>107201105Have you tried disabling Multi-Plane Overlay ?
>>107201105Is you tv VA?
>>107198244>>107198225is that wifi card??
>>107201169Yes.
>>107201105omg double mousepads
>>107201105video timing or refresh rate? have you ever tried to create a custom resolution/timings? i know this can be easily done with Nvidia drivers, dunno about others.have you tried a different cable, i know it sounds dumb but weirder things have been known to cause problems.
Anons,Should I get the KTC MP27 or instead get the MSI MAG 274URFW? I would put the extra $40 saved with the MSI towards an SSD. If the KTC is worth the extra $40 I don’t mind putting off the SSD for a week
>>107200176>bought ram 2 1/2 weeks ago>right the moment the prices were gonna shoot up>actually was at €330 already>someone on Amadong UK forgot to adjust the price>got 2x32 cl30 corsairs for €250feels good man
>Got new GPU>Coil whine when move mouseAHHHHH
>>107198275alternative for techlet normies disillusioned by consolesthats the point
Can I get Black Friday upgrade advice? Currently have a Ryzen 5 5500 + rx 580 2048sp build with random 16gb ram and random (ssd) storage. I did not build this pc with the future in mind. I need a new mobo, gpu, and cpu. I'd like to go AMD+Nvidia and have my sights set on a 5060, 5060 ti, or 5070 perhaps even a 4070 depending on which is best value after Thanksgiving. The Ryzen naming scheme seems confusing and unintuitive. I mainly hope to get an (older) 8 core 16 thread cpu on black friday for $150. Should I be aiming for something else?
>>107198225intel or amd cpu for gemu/dawstation?dont wanna burn my house down
>>1072014249950x3d2 should launch in q1
>>107201365oof.>have tinnitus>cannot tell if coil whine or the universe vibrating around me
>>107201434Hopefully we'll get something soon EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEnon
>>107201261Do more research and pick the best of the two monitors if you can afford it.An LCD monitor can last you a while.>>107201365Undervolting could lessen the coil whine.>>107201419I'd get 5070 unless you need the 5060 Ti 16GB for AI/blender/etc.If your motherboard's in good condition, you could upgrade the CPU to a 5700X
>>107201482It whines on the desktop/web browsing I am not sure undervolt would help.Can't hear it when playing game due to audio anyway.
will the fractal design north w/ mesh case go on sale in the coming weeks or should I buy it now? currently $155 on amazon.
>>107201482My motherboard is some poverty PCI 3.0 Asus mobo. I've read that PC 5.0 cards work on 3.0 and that there's only a minor performance loss. I have some shitty ONN monitors and am targeting 1080p 100fps. The games I play are pretty undemanding and i'm not super interested in AI but I guess it would be nice as an option. A base 5060 would last me as a gamer well over 6 years. I really don't be playing a lot of games. I have to go nvidia though because of New Vegas Reloaded not being AMD friendly.
>>107201499Return it and get a different model
>>107201169>pci-e 4xlooks like 10gbit ethernet to me
>>107201515If you have 3200MT/s DDR4 memory, you can get a 14600K and a DDR4 motherboard to save some money.If you go AM5, a 7500F or 7600X is overkill for a 5060. Memory kits are expensive atm.There's only around $20 difference between a 9600X and a 7600X in the US atm, you can also get a 7500F (no iGPU though) if you need to save some money.I just picked the cheapest 2x16GB DDR5 6000MT/s kit in this list.There is a black version of the HDV/M.2 board.https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TjfYMCIf you want to avoid ASRock boards, I'd get this discounted B650 Aorus Elite V2.You will need to know how to use the BIOS flashback feature to make it work with Ryzen 9000 CPUs.https://pcpartpicker.com/product/KrWJ7P/gigabyte-b650-aorus-elite-ax-v2-atx-am5-motherboard-b650-aorus-elite-ax-v2
>the ball is finally avaliable>its too expensive for what is isHmmmm. Why dont the chinks just bootleg this shit.
>>107201504Looks like you missed the $30 discount on B&H. They might offer it again during Black Friday.Hard to say for sure, though. North is one of the best-selling PC cases at B&H.
>>107201365If you don't want to replace the GPU, best thing you can do is put the PC in another room. Or even in a sound proof box, with fans of course.
so no rtx 5070 super?day ruinedgonna stuck in rtx 3060 forever
>he still has a Gen 4 SSD
>>107201894I still use HDDs.
>>107200660After autistically watching this series i came wondering what the fuck do cuda cores do, also based on this https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/graphics-cards/compare/ You have the 5060 TI having 759 AI TOPS (Tensor cores) and a 5070 TI having 1406 AI TOPS while a freaking 4080 Super has 836 AI TOPS and the regular 4080 has 780 AI TOPS but the 5060 TI has 4608 cuda cores while a 4080 super has 9728 so how much faster will the blackwell cards be if this shit is not snake oilhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPlc1CLaZXw&t=570s
Thank you msi z97 pc mate. You have done well. Goodbye.
>>107201912Let me put it in simpler terms for you:>AMD smelly rotting milk>Nvidia aromatic fine wine
>>107201912cuda cores is just a marketing term for shaders>>107201948does it work with the new board?
>>107201948Err... probably fine if I don't have standoffs.2 screws at the top will do...
>>107201990Please be patient I am a millennial boomer.
>>107201948what happened? did the msi board died?
>>107201515https://dlpnd.github.io/nvr-wiki/docs/introI don't see anything about not being amd friendly
>>107201966The thing is basically with my limited understanding the difference is that cuda cores do matrix x vector while tensor cores do matrix x matrix, also RDNA 2 does not have Matrix Cores which do this kind of operation and the fact that AMD split the drivers makes me think its related to this. But if thats the case and Cuda cores which do matrix x vector multiplication are useless for neural shaders then you'll have a situation in which something like a 5060 ti will suddenly become twicve as fast as 4070?
>>107201515you'll be good, just make sure the card you're getting is x16 and not a gimped x8
>>107201990does this mean that if a game replaces regular shaders with only neural shaders that run on the AI tops a fucking 4080 will be around a 5060ti?
>>107202017I think so. A couple of threads ago an anon showed me how to test the power and the psu is good but my fan wiggled so the board isn't getting power right.
>>107201515Can you get a 16gb 5060 ti, the extra vram means it will need to rarely use your PCI express so you should never see the drop in performance hardware unboxed tested it and basically the 5060 TI 16GB was not broken with PCI 3.0 this is the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEsSUPuvHI4 all the other cards you listed have 12 gb of vram so the PCI may fuck them over
Fucking hate this fan, man.I watched 5 separate videos on how to install this "intuitive" thing.The last pin never wants to go in.
>>107202027I mean, more or less? Even without any technical knowledge one can come to the basic conclusion that if you have more of the specific hardware that a new software uses more of, and the new software is more efficient at the same job than old software, then it should run faster when a game or tool is fully utilizing the new softs.
>>107202059gotta press it slow and tight also you'd want a beefier cooler for your 4790K in case you don't already have it
>>107202061I hope is true then, i upgraded into blackwell
>>107201365I only got coil whine whenever I hover the pointer over benchmark setup windows>>107201894still rolling some Gen 3 x4 half a TB SSD that I yoinked off of an XPS (boot drive). 4 other SATA SSDs for other purposes
>>107201894I wish! My 905p is too fast to be replaced just yet
Just for funzies every port faces the other direction than my old mobile so 10 years of a cord bent in a certain direction, now I have to twist and fight it the other way.
>>107202068Got it in.If this pc works im gonna give it to my brother and get a new one on black Friday.
So uhh. Is this fine?
>>107202158yea
>>107202158cant fucking see shit, man. get a better picture
>>107202197Can't. My phone camera protector smashed now it's greasy forever.For what it's worth. The Samsung galaxy s9+ camera served me well.
Done.Tight fit.
>>107202158the tongue that sticks out of the board has to go between the two raised lines on the fan connectorconnecting a 3 pin fan to 4 pin fan connector is fine
>>107202209nice case design.
>>107202209God damn it.The fan wiggled again.No life.
>>107202214It's a corsair something.
>>107202228Test with no gpu, integrated graphics, only power button connected, no usb, no audio, no led
>>107202250no sata connected either
>>107202250Fan wiggle.
>>107202257Same. Fan wiggled.
I'm guessing the cpu is dead?It wouldn't surprise me. The reason why I'm doing all of this is because it was overheating and I never reapplied thermal paste.I have nothing against getting another gen4 intel for less than $100.... I smelled burning for a couple of days in my room after the initial shut off too.
>>107202268>>107202276It's behaving as if there's a short somewhere. It's trying to turn on and either the psu or motherboard detects something is off and turning immediately back off.
>>107202290Haswell refresh i5-4590s and similar are $5 used if you want to keep throwing parts at it. i3s and i7s are not worth buying imo.
>>107202296I even took out the ram.I'm using my old power cord...If my old psu also died do you think that could have anything to do with it?
>>107202307Good idea. Now I'm interested.I can even get a new fan since it's only $35 anyway.
>>107202317It's possible the power supply going out sent a voltage spike to the cpu.I know a guy who fried a 4770 just by changing some voltage setting in the bios trying to overclock it.
>>107202328Haswell chips are insanely efficient, they do not benefit from fancy heatsinks. I ran y-cruncher on a 4790 and the power draw was 50W...
>>107202347that's with MCE on for the quiet readers who may judge me in their heads
My top picks for monitors AOC Q27G3XMNAsus XG27ACGGigabyte M27QA probably gonna go for the AOC, unless I can find the Asus or Gigabyte for significantly cheaper (all around $270 at the moment)Any other considerations?
>>107202335It's gotta be it.Overheating.No thermal paste in 10 years.Burning smell.When it did work I checked the temp and it was 81C and over.Dead old psu.Would be a testament to the mobo if I put the old one back in and it still works.
>>107202370true that. very hard to diagnose issues without having different spares laying around.hope you didn't pay too much for the new motherboard.
>>107202366>Gigabyte M27QAI have one. It's meh. Too expensive for my liking. Speakers are also ass. It pops whenever you turn on your PC. And you can't do anything with it because it's connected using HDMI or DP.
>>107199177i mean if you chose thos pieces manually then it is what it isThe psu is pretty expensive, you can get an A- psu according to the tier list for 101€ (montech century II)Thats an expensive as fuck case if you are on a budget, but you obviously hand picked it.The rest of the pieces seem to come from that cheapest list i gave you last thread so can't really cut anything there other than going to a b650 and get a 130€ mobo to save 15€ but if you mentioned future proofing on the chip i assume that 15€ for a simply more modern board seems reasonable.And then there is the chip which could save you 80€ with a 7800x3d but you already knew that.TLDR cheaper psu, cheaper case if you want to get to your budget, other than that raise your budget to 1100.Cheers anon
>>107202381Ehh $60. It's fine. Who knows? Maybe I try the old one and it doesn't work.Otherwise the new one can sit in a box until something else happens.I'm not resourceful enough to turn it into a box that does something for movies or games though.In any case this went from frustrating a month ago to fun diagnosing and relearning how to out things together.Thank you, anons. I couldn't have done it without you.I'll say a prayer for all of you ITT.
>>107181806Literally 3€ more expensive today than it was yesterday and it keeps marching on
Scary part about RAM and SSDs is if the datacenter bubble does not pop in the next 12 months, these prices will be considered affordable as they become virtually unavailable in the consumer market outside of pre-built PCs.
Actually. I can take my friend's cpu and give that a go.He had an old pile with a 1660 in it. That's where I got the power supply.
>>107200904pls respond.I checked the RAM via Memtest, and they all Pass after 4 passes.
i have a dumb question both the mother board and the nvme have heat sinksi use the mobo's right?
>>107202596There is no general answer. Sometimes the motherboard sink is a giant slab that works well, sometimes its a giant slab that works worse than an aftermarket one. Just give both a try, or consider whichever has the looks you prefer.
https://it.pcpartpicker.com/list/Rpr9b2Did I do good? Got everything but the cpu, might just wait for a discount on black friday at this point
>>107202579You should not be worried.>my system takes at least 60 seconds or more to POST and show the Windows boot animation
>>107202656What's generally the main cause of the slow POST though?
>>107202652it looks good Luigi
>>107202659hardware doing it's thing. it's going to be specific to your combination of hardware.if it's working normally otherwise don't mess with anything, you're likely to bork it if you are asking questions like this.
>>107202695Fair enough, Anon. I hope it's nothing big like my motherboard is old, or one of the parts are broken.
>>107202579Did you disable quick boot? Or w/e it's called.Shutting down computers don't actually shut it down but it enters a hibernation state. If it's disabled then whenever you shut down your PC then it actually shuts down and unloads the RAM. If it's enabled everything is saved in the RAM, making booting up again faster.
>>107202718I don't recall enabling such setting. After installing the CPU and swapped the CMOS battery, I only enabled the XMP(?) profile for the RAM and left everything else as is. My computer doesn't boot fast per se. The computer is just quick to POST around 3-4 seconds after pressing the power button, but on two occasions (10 days apart), it took 30 seconds to POST.
>>107202718good heavens. disable hibernation on modern hardware, kids. it's a waste of disk space.sleep and resume is where it's at.
>>107202740I prefer hibernation. Sleep sucks.
Please turn off your computers.
Please compute off your sleep.
>living with parents>renting a co-op>utilities all included in the rent>$1,100/mo totalnah, im good at leaving my pc and other shit on 24/7.
trying to manage my cpu and maybe I should limit the wattage in the bios and it'd be quiterApparently gigabyte wants me to put 750w limit to itwho the fuck uses milliwatts anyway, everyone else has watts and amps
I've left my pcs on at night for like 20 years is that bad for them
>>107202833putting the pc to sleep is fine and has no downsides
>no used 4070 ti supers around>5070ti for 800 euros and more>my 3060ti already strugglingwhat the fuck I do at this point
>>107202879Play in 1080p, retard
>>1072028795070's were pretty cheap on sale and it'd be a reasonable upgrade over 3060
>>107198593What is China even using if not Linux
>>107202903windows
>>107199314need more than 8c for that
>>107199337>Oled looks incredible>had mine for a couple weeks and haven't even turned it on yetS-sasuga. This is the power of OLED technology.
2 weeks until black Friday. You BETTER be waiting to click checkout
I'm Canadian. We don't have black Fridays. We just have regular Fridays.
>first crypto>now AIWhat will the next hyped up stupid bullshit technology that will ruin PC part prices will be?
>>107203003>I'm Canadian.Why? Are you Indian? Do you at least have cyber Monday there?
>>107198225Silverstone FT-03 M-ATX case interior
>>107202879You paid for dlss might as well use it you know. I mean upscaling not fake frames
>>107203003>We don't have black FridaysWe do in BC
>>107202879stalk geizhals for a deal
Are people still whinging about 12VHPWR cables? I remember a few years ago people were saying it could burn down your house but tons of people own 50 series cards and I haven't seen nearly as much buzz about it these days
AliExpress 9800X3D arrived.I know they can relid these things, but until I can get the other parts, at least the lid seems genuine?No obvious evidence of it being re-lidded or anything.
>>1072031379/10 times if it burns you won't know until you remove the cable and nobody's removing their GPUs when rtx6000 isn't out
>>107203043>Are you IndianFuck no.I'm worse, I'm [spoiler]Filipino[/spoiler].
>>107202879im on a 3060TI and i dont see it struggle.... @1080p :XI can play at 1440p on medium roughly depending of the game or on 1080p maxxedUntil i get a legit good deal on a 5070TI im not even looking at the market, that or this thing catches on fire
>>107203141looks neat anon, i was ready to purchase one when you posted it a couple days ago but i couldnt get the same coupon you were getting so it was an extra 50€ and at that point might as well wait or purchase one with warrantybut im rooting for them to be good, would love to have access to slightly cheaper parts
i still cannot decide between a 1440p 34" ultrawide monitor or a 4k 27" monitor
Saw an amazon ad on tv today that the black friday deals over there start on thursdayAre we ready for -7% discount on a random cooler and -4% on a projector?
Ngl seeing the price of oleds and what they can do makes them super tempting, but the fact that there's even a slight chance of the e621 logo being permanently engrained onto my monitor kills any desire I have for one
>>107203268Then don't buy one. I always treat electronics as something you replace. If you don't have the money to replace it in 5 years then it's not worth buying.
>>107203268pholed will save oled tech in the next few years,hopefully burn will be a thing of the distant past after that.
>>107203303You guys said that same thing about microled. Where the fuck is it
>>107203327i don't think that i ever said anything about microled
rec me big case without homo rgb lights prease
>>107203421my Dark Base 701 is pretty solid, it has rgb but it's not of the homo kind.
>>107203421SHARKOON VS9
>>107203434not that guy but is it even possible to buy a decent case these days that doesnt have the glass panelsfucking hell if i wanted a discoball id just get onei want my case to be as dark, unassuming and invisible as possible
>>107203470i am that guy i should have mentioned i dont want glass either lol. my current one shattered like 2 years ago and ive just had a piece of cardboard voer it
>>107203470More and more cases are offering mesh panels as everyone kinda gets sick of Fishtank PCs with rainbow lighting.
kinda feel like i shoulda pulled the trigger on am5 before the price hike but i play no games that need that much more power anyway,,, guess i'll wait for the 9700x3d
>>107203491only problem with mesh though is that you will hear everything
>>107199491They are to the green pcb, its a HBA SAS controller>>10720116910 G-BaseT lan card
>>107203515Not wrong.The only "High end" case I've seen that offers a straight steel panel is the ProArt. It also comes in beige, brown or black.
>>107203470yes fractal design makes a variant of most of their cases with a solid side panel
>>107201169Asus C100C 10GbE card
>>107203421Silverstone 5U. Biggest case I've seen.
>>107203292It will be at least 5 years before burn-in is severe enough to bother you.
>>107203470I got a Fractal Torrent with solid panels. Looks nice and roomy.
>>107203470Yes, you just gotta look and not the popular ones.
>>107199189I got my non RGB version of this kit for just over 200€
what is the downside of buying 5 usd nameless shitbox, removing the side panels and running it as is?
Any recommendations that is like my old case the Cooler Master 912?I really enjoyed this one for many years so going to a glass or mesh thing (is this even good?) is a no go for me.No micro or mini ATX towers for me.
>>107203710the fuck are you talking about?
>>107203710dust
>>107203710i have heard about cheap chink cases being the cause of coil whine in some situations. probably has something to do with the really low quality materials.
NZXT Lexa is the muscle car of pc cases
>>107203714>ATX>No Side Panel>Modern Front I/O (USB Type C)https://pcpartpicker.com/products/case/#t=4,3&D=16,4,8&B=1&sort=price&page=1There's your list of choices. Possible candidates that stick out to me without being unresonably expensive are are the Silverstone FARA 513 Type-C, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Closed Panel (pictured), Fractal Design Define 7 Compact, be quiet! Pure Base 501 Airflow, & Silverstone SETA D1.
>>107203773wait there was a time when nzxt used to make cases that weren't just several flimsy pieces of cheap sheet metal riveted together?
>>107203770>>107203770>>107203770Got the greentext on the 2nd post but messed up the second link, whateverGet out of my thread
Apevia X-Cruiser, my beloved..
>>107203796Thank you, anon. Will take a look at these soon.
Talk me out of an AliExpress 7800X3D for 240euros
>>107203970You got what you paid.
>>107203978A tray CPU for 120euro less?
>>107201111No, never seen this behavior before, monitors did not do this>>107201157yes how is that related though>>107201250unrelated>>107201259>video timing or refresh rate? have you ever tried to create a custom resolution/timings? ino just 4k60>have you tried a different cable, i know it sounds dumb but weirder things have been known to cause problems.no I just bought a 2m hdmi2.1 cable to run this to begin with
>>107204110>No, never seen this behavior before, monitors did not do thisMPO causes VRR frame timing fuckery in windowed GPU-accelerated applications (games, chromium, electron etc) that most monitors learned to ignore but on TVs it often causes black or noise on full frame or even part of the screen.Another test is disabling VRR entirely to see if the problem still persists.
>>107204167I'm not even running VRR is the thingnot supported+off
