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>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE
Post build list or current specs: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped

>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME, X50
Dual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision, Antec C8

>CPU
Gaming: 14600K, 9/7600X, 7800X3D
-Budget: 12400, 12600K, 7500F
Workstation: 265K, 285K, 9950X3D

*Avoid Asrock motherboards on AM5
*On Raptor Lake microcode updates should be considered mandatory, avoid second-hand

>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Lian Li Galahad II Lite, Corsair Nautilus RS, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (unhandy mounting solution)
ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67

TIM: MX-6, MX-4, Duronaut

>RAM
*Prices and therefore recommendations are for the time being in flux
DDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AM5), 6400CL32 (LGA 1700)
Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget.), 2x48GB or 2x64GB (high-end)

>SSD (Keep firmware updated)
Budget: SN7100, NM790
High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)
Premium: SN8100
https://borecraft.com/

>GPU
Budget: Arc B580, 9060xt 8gb (~$270)
-Used: 2060 Super, 2070, 2080ti
*8gb has become a major constraint even at 1080p
Midrange: 5060ti 16GB, 5070
-Used: 3080, 3080ti, 4070 (~$380)
4k : 5070ti, 9070xt
-Native: 5090

>PSU
Buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
1080p: 24" 165/180hz, KTC H25X7
1440p: 27" 165/180hz IPS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED), ASUS XG27AQWMG (WOLED)
4K: KTC M27P6 (miniLED)

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Midrange: Arctic P12 Pro, P14 Pro (5-pack, loud @ higher RPM)
High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)
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>News & Rumors
RTX 50 Super: 2026 launch? 24GB VRAM for 5070 Ti & 5080 Super, 18GB for 5070 Super.
Nova Lake 2026
Dual 3d cache "9950X3D2"
Redstone "Ray Regeneration" is in Black Ops 7
New Steam hardware

>Product Notice
PNY RTX 50 cards have QC issues (rattling fans, reports of 5070 & 5090 with blown capacitors)

Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

>Omissions
-9800X3D: ~10% improvement in gaming over a 7800X3D (which is still in production)
-9060xt 16gb: Performance variable compared to 5060ti, consider cheaper second hand options like the 3080
-9070: Currently more expensive than the 5070
-Q27G40XMN: Early shipments had firmware that effected local dimming with no way to update, otherwise considered a great monitor for the price.
-"Futureproofing": Nvidia gpus in general have been aging better than Radeon regardless of vram or marginal differences in raw performance

Leave any constructive suggestions for edits to the op. Is slowly being worked on.

Pic:

>>107203141 anon and his chink 9800x3d
>>>>107201105 the jeetstation
Previous:
>>107198225
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>>107203807
why this dude using two mouse mats
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https://old.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/1ovw0qf/amd_drivers_performing_hundreds_of_ssd_writes/

AYYMDEAD KILLING YOUR SSDS BY SHORTENING YOUR SSDS LIFESPAN
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>>107203824
Because it's AI generated.
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>>107203824
>>107203851
>why this dude using two mouse mats
Imagine if mouse sensors worked better the more layers of padding there were stacked underneath them. You'd have progamers/streamers running setups that resemble the Princess and the Pea.
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>>107203827
You fuckers are so fucking retarded. I know Reddit is fucking retarded, but I would have thought you guys would be smarter.
A million small writes is not going to kill your fucking SSD. Those log files are less than 10kb. AMD is not the only one doing this by the way. A mid range SSD usually has 200TBW before it's considered 'bad'. That means SMART is going to give a WARNING that your SSD endurance are getting low, that's not the total amount, it can reach 500TBW if you push it.
10kb is 0.00000010TB. You have 200 TBW. It means it needs to write 2 BILLION times before you get a warning.

So no, your log files aren't killing your SSDs. It would take 10+ years before you see any wear on an SSD just for the log files.
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>>107203824
Double precision
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>>107203827
>he doesn't use an optane SSD as a boot drive
user error
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>>107203894
This thing just came out and it has 4,800 TBW.
SSD longevity is not a fucking issue at all nowadays.
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>>107203947
That SSD also costs more than a 5080
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Does the manufacturer of the gpu matter?
Like asus, pny, gigabyte, zotac etc ...
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>>107204001
For the base GPU card itself, no.
If you want extra features, then yes.
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>>107204006
>extra features
such as?
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AMD piggies are still oinking for FSR4 on RDNA3
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>>107204026
Bigger heat sinks so better cooling.
Better OC, like bigger power limit.
Bigger VRMs.
RGB.

If you don't care about any of these just get a founders edition card, if you can find one.
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>>107204048
its already on linux
like this stuff is baked into valves official proton shit by now
every linux owner has fsr4 by using one command
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>>107204063
The gabecube is gonna be a beast with fsr4
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>>107204070
deadlock is gonna have fsr4 (linux) and dlss4 (windows)
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RAM....
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Once you try oled, it's over
you are forever cursed to be a slave to it
you might try and cope and go back to lcd and inferior displays, but in the back of your mind you will always know it's pure shit
lcds are too slow, tvs too large
I kneel, I admit defeat
I will go back to a 27"-32" 240hz-540hz QD/Tandem 4k/1440p OLED, there is simply nothing else
I was already at endgame, I might aswell just admit defeat and join the Republic right now
only now there is the question if 500+hz is actually more preferrable to 4k, or if 1440p really looks that bad and the hz does not outweigh it
I undervalued hz and 0 smearing, it's important
it might be over
I should have bought the g81sf 27" or two of them when it was on sale for 499€, will literally never see such a deal again, could have even peeled the matte coating
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>>107204181
OLED freed me from CCFL slavery, I can finally buy new monitors after using same old shit for over a decade because literally every LED LCD was worse for my use case.
>tvs too large
It's the opposite, 42" TV freed so much space after using dual 24" I don't even need desk as big as before.
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>>107204208
I was considering taking the C4 42" pill, but had to test if 55" is viable first
I know now that it's just too big for no reason, not sure if 42" will be better since it's woled+144hz max anyway
might aswell go back to a 27-32" at this point
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>>107204208
I even think dual monitors would be more preferable, I think single screen window management is literally gay, so a larger screen would not really add anything either
I think monitors won
I don't even know if I think gaming on a larger screen is better
truly over
this might be the end of shilling the tv pill
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I'm completely new to PC building, and I got all of the parts from a random pcpartpicker list I snagged from an anon's post almost a year ago while lurking /v/ (I wanted to try to build a powerful gaming PC that costs less than the shitty $2,000 MSI MPG Trident 3 10th prebuilt PC I bought in 2020, and the anon's list was perfect):
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QgJGb2

I managed to assemble the PC a few months back and I tried Windows 11 on it (I despised it so much), so I put Linux Mint 22.1 on it instead. However, since this was my first time building a PC, I didn't know what I was supposed to do about the BIOS updates and settings, and there was way too much conflicting info everywhere on the internet. Most people were saying to updoot to the latest BIOS version, so I downloaded the latest stable BIOS file for my MB from the official MSI website, but that's where all of my problems began. After updooting, I noticed that if I disable secure boot and/or delete the secure boot keys, the text would start changing to chinese letters and the BIOS eventually freezes and locks up, and I would have to force a shutdown. I ended up making this meme because of it (I used shotcut):
https://files.catbox.moe/tgczp0.mp4

I've read so many bad things about the B650 Gaming Plus WiFi MB, and I'm considering switching to a different AM5 MB (looking for something that has good stability, good Linux compatibility, compatible with current parts, and no built-in WiFi because I'm sensitive to EMF). I'm also probably going to switch to another distro because the latest versions of Linux Mint is shit (21.3 was the last good version), and I'll give Arch Linux another shot before trying Cachy OS, but if Arch Linux still hasn't fixed the PAM bug (instant password lockout when using sudo or syu commands even when the password is typed correctly), then I'll have to go on a hunt for another distro. Picrel is the PC I built (first time I've ever built a PC).
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I was thinking about just going to Microcenter tomorrow and buying (almost) everything I need for my PC.
Or should I waitfag for black friday deals? Will there be significant discounts?
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>>107203970
Pretty sure I ordered the 9800X3D from that listing.
It's the image in the OP.
All the serials check out, it came in a tray and seems genuine. Won't know until I get the MOBO and PSU later in the month. But, it's not a brick at least.
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>>107204063
with inferior performance and image quality to RDNA4
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>>107204181
I'm not going OLED until Samsung releases an OLED version of their 57" g9.
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>>107204347
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>>107204447
cheapest 5070TI in germany seems to be 750€ so for that price would be a steal, the question is "how used?, what model? how comfortable are you buying 2nd hand tech?" etc
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>>107204500
i wasn't judging im on a bunch of 2nd hand hardware i would walk on cinders to have a chance to buy a 5070TI for 500€ or fucking hell 400$ as you posted, too bad im far away.
BUT those are 750+ cards, that kind of drop in value doesnt scream super safe buy to me.
Just do you due diligence anon, good luck
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>>107204384
It's not that bad. It's better than native still in both quality and fps.
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>>107204181
I'm still alright with glossy LCDs with good contrast ratio. The biggest advantage of oled displays is its many glossy options available on the market unlike LCDs
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is it fine? i cant find any cheaper ram than this that is 64gb, other ram are super expensive.. above 100$+ from this one (360$)
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>Today my pc humbled me, please listen my cautionary tale of how my hubris brought me low.
>I always thought i was at least decently pc savvy, i have offered help in these threads of stuff i knew about and learned from others...
>I had problems with my gpu, constant crashes and problems, none of the advice on the internet help.
>But anon do these crashes happen even when you have the gpu at factory settings!?
>Yes they do, i tried the same apps and programs after having closed Afterburner
>And there it was, i didnt know that i needed to reset the settings first then close afterburner, on my hubris on my stupidity, my vanity, my ego, my pomposity and complacency, i wrongly assumed that once shutting afterburner down since it dissapeared from my taskbar shortcuts any change would be undone.
>Alas.... that lasted for so long
>At least there is a happy ending, i learned something and now those crashes are gone with a more conservative OC of the card.
>Learn from my tale of woe and always keep an inquisitive mind for those demon machines we call computers hold many secrets still.

So yeah i wasted a fucking year roughly with an overbearing OC that was causing crashes on games cause im a fucking retard underserving of love.
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Can you guys help a monkeybro? What PC from here should I buy if I want to run everything on 1080p 60fps for the next 5 years? https://www.lojanovaera.com/amd-ryzen-7000-series
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>>107204576
Sure, get it
Though tRCD and tRP of 40 suggests that this is based on older Hynix 16gbit m-die which overclocks slightly differently from a-die
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2nd hand 5070TI german anon
Something happened? you deleted the posts, im legit curious, did you find something wrong with the listings or what happened?
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>>107204376
seriously thoughbeit
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>>107204376
buy RAM/NVME now while you still can, everything else can wait for sales
>Will there be significant discounts?
3% on your case fan for sure
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>>107204599
Jannies were jelly
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>>107204591
You would have caught it almost instantly if you had used a monitoring program like hwinfo64 to show the GPU voltage, GPUs, temps and power...
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>>107204605
GPUs too since they contain ram and prices are about to rise for those
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>>107204618
absolutely, im a retard
you can't imagine the amount of shit i tried cause it OBVIOUSLY COULDNT BE THE OC CAUSE THE OC PROGRAM IS CLOSED
im not joking that it humbled me that something so simple caught me like that
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>>107204630
think if it this way, you're still retarded but less retarded now
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>>107204477
https://files.catbox.moe/eew135.mp4
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>>107203947
should I get that or an sn850x? or samsung 990? I usually use samsung but idk
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>>107204595
obviously none of the super cheap ones with 3050s and shit
none with a 5060 since the 2 i checked were 8gb versions, i wont even bother checking them anymore
So its either 5070 and 5070TI models, i dont think i saw any with 9070/9070xt which would have been worth a check

Picrel would be my pic, one with a 5070 the other with the TI, i skipped the ones with 64 ram cause its a waste in your case.

NOW for 1080@60hz you can do with less but getting a 5070/ti now gives you some room, you can get a 1440p screen later on your life and move to 1440p@120hz which those cpus will do for you.

If you are on a way tighter budget let us know, i just dont want to buy a fucking 5060 8gb card in 2026
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>>107204677
Dios mios... el /g/oblino de /pcbg/...
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>>107204628
It feels like GPUs will lag quite bit as the real hit on them should be in the first two quarters of 2026. Meanwhile RAM is already flying to the moon and each day adds like 20% on top, any scalper worth his scalp is buying, once these creatures will figure out that NVME will take the biggest hit next year they will start scalping it too killing the market for good.
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>>107204677
Thats good anon, i apologize we had some problems with necroposting not that long ago and yours was a weird ass post
Again, i apologize.....
but that image could have been made by anyone....

Alas i dont fuck with the penguin so there is not much advice i can offer other than just clearing the CMOS so you get the mobo at factory settings if you believe that updating the bios is what started it all
Again i have no idea what the fuck im talking about
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Straight up, I want to buy all the PC parts I want to upgrade my PC with now, I know I'm in a bit of a spotty financial situation, but I just don't see it getting any better with the current market.
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>>107204723
ok
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>>107204347
>the shitty $2,000 MSI MPG Trident 3 10th prebuilt PC
I get that consooming is fun and all, but couldn't you have just stripped her down and jabbed a throbbing single fan 4060ti in the slot and maybe unloaded some sextra RAM in those there open slots, that way the old bitch could have competed with your newer thiccer machine.
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>>107204605
alright I'm too lazy to wait I'll just buy everything now
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>>107204694
Nah, I can afford the right one. Thanks anon. I will wait tho to see if it's cheaper on BF but I can afford it now.
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>>107204774
I assume the rest of the pieces are the exact same and just switching the gpu
check the price difference of a 5070 with the TI version in case either of them is overpriced/underpriced
The CPU they chose in literally all of them are not... "gaming" focused cpus not the ones you would usually see recommended in these threads, and i have to assume the rest of the builds are also made with profit in mind, in case you can at least think about maybe building your own, but i have no idea how available specific pieces would be in brazil.

Also keep in mind picrel
They dont list a cooler so i assume they use the stock cooler which might not be enough, also might want some extra fans, maybe you can talk to the shop when you order it, so they can add other pieces or whatever (again like a real cooler)
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don't mind me, just testing to see if i'm banned
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>>107204826
>are not... "gaming" focused cpus not the ones you would usually see recommended in these threads
nothing wrong with them either, just is weird to see that not a single unit is made with a more "gaming" chip
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>A520
>inb4 nooo anon you can't put a high end gpu in such low end mobo!11
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>>107203770
My LF3 VRM fan started rattling horribly after a week of use.
One email to Arctic's support and they told me they're gonna send a replacement VRM fan to me immediately. That's surprising, I didn't think it was gonna be that quick and easy
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>>107203807
>turn on TV
>immediate ad for some total crap
I don't know how tv plebs accept it
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>>107203894
>just endlessly constantly write to your ssd for your monitor to work bro!

lol AMD garbage
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So, when are we going to see an onslaught of super cheap surplus office boxes and laptops due to lack of Windows 11 support? I was told there would be a flood of cheap computers....
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>>107204995
they were scrapped for rare earth metals and recycled.
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>>107204347
MSI mobos only officially support Windows 11 They don't care if anything else doesn't work
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>>107204723
do it now
shit is not getting cheaper and we are 1+ year away from ram dropping in price again
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>>107204995
Because of ESG they don't dump those computers anymore instead they are shipped straight to africa to be harvested for elements
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>>107205006
So the merchants win again. Sad.
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If I buy the GPU I want I won't have enough money for the monitor I want

If I buy the monitor I want I won't have enough money for the GPU I want
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>>107204957
Their support is great. They will even send you free thermal paste if you ask.
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I thought this thread would be full of black friday deals by now but it's just doomerposting
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>>107204747
Last year, my troon brother told me that I would need to do some soldering in order to upgrade the power so that it can handle the newer gpus, but he never told me exactly what I needed to solder. Unfortunately he began treating me like shit back in august, and then he permanently severed family ties between me and him/mom in september, so I can't get any more information from him. That's the only info I have in terms of upgrading the MPG trident PC.
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>>107205069
Sorry, black Friday is cancelled. Please understand.
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>>107204957
That's why Arctic AIO is recommended to people.
Competitive price + good customer service.
Mounting hardware isn't the best for single CCD Ryzen CPUs, but it's still running the 9800X3D under 80°C @ high loads.
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>>107205012
I kinda figured as much, which is why I'm looking for advice on a new AM5 mobo that supports the current parts I have.
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>>107205062
buy the GPU and just get the monitor at a later date
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>>107205099
this GPUs are low right now. seconds before they rugpull black friday goys and double GPU prices because muh RAM
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>>107205069
why do you think anything will have a deal anymore when the "sales" are 24/7 and rigged to rape you in the ass for the past decade and more? u have boomer brain.
imo best time to buy is june to now. thanksgiving to april is when they supply shortage and fuck everything up.
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> G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory £229.99
> G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-8000 CL38 Memory £208.99

Make it Make sense...
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Just bought a 4TB SSD for my new build but now I’m worried I won’t be able to catch a 5080 at MSRP in a couple weeks. That said I think storage is going to get more expensive for a while.
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>>107205191
MHz are theoretical, latency is real.
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12700k
3080ti
32 GB DDR5
Asus Prime Z690-P

Anything on the horizon in 2026 worth upgrading to? Was planning a case swap and some new fans/cooling around March 2026 and have budget to upgrade other parts
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I just gotta wait 1 more week

I just gotta wait 1. more. week.
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Help me decide
As far as I can see the specs are identical(?)

PNY GeForce RTX 5080 ARGB OC 16GB - ~USD$1240 black friday price
ASUS GeForce RTX 5080 ROG TUF Gaming 16GB OC - ~USD$1590
ASUS GeForce RTX 5080 PRIME 16GB OC - ~USD$1360
Gigabyte GeForce RTX 5080 WINDFORCE 3 OC 16GB - ~USD$1170 black friday price

The two on the bottom is not in stock until December, the other two I can get in 3-5 days
Is it even a good buy at this time?
I'm upgrading from a 3070 ti 8gb
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AMD is dropping the ball on their desktop APUs. The best one only has 12CUs, but the APU they made for the PS5 has 36
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>>107205275
I'd ride the year out if the GPU is still good enough for you.
RTX 50 Super cards are rumored to be delayed to the second half of 2026, and NVIDIA will probably raise the MSRP because of the memory shortage.



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