Do you still burn CDs, anon?
>>107411367I create wav image/tracks from audio cds, yes. Keep them on the PC or other devices though.
>>107411367I did for a bunch of ps1 games and the absolute state of this media blackpilled me hard
>>107411367I burned one to play in my car a few months agoI can't remember when I've burned a data disc, they're too small to back up anything of substance
>>107411367no, but i do burn dvdsare cds even a thing now?
>>107411458What do you put on the dvds?
>>107411367say I'm a boomer who's on Arch Linux and sometimes Ubuntu variants, what's the best program to rip a cd 1 to 1 without the program setting annoying breaks between the tracks ? Tried asunder and handbrake, stuff like abcde and soundkonverter arent in the official repo anymore, but I prefer GUI anyway. Any recommendations with a little bit of a guide please ?
>>107411367CDs are obsolete, outdated technology. I use SSDs and USB drives like a normal person.
>>107411367I use them mainly for SEGA Saturn homebrew games.I sometimes use Bluerays to have hard backup duplicates of things I wanna save in case my hard drives shit the bed.
>>107411367Yes, theyre not dead yet and we shoildnt let them die. If they die we'll own our information even less.
>>107411367I use DVD-DL to install Windows so yes
>>107411367rarely CDs, but i burn DVD and Blu-Ray M•DISCs as a backup to my backupspretty much mostly family pics and videos of my kid's school plays
I burned FreeDOS to one recently.
>>107413159>Early in 2022, Verbatim changed the formulation of their M-DISC branded Blu-rays. These new discs could be written at a faster rate than the previous ones – 6× speed instead of 4×. The new discs also had different colouration and markings compared with older version. Later in the year customers accused Verbatim of selling an inferior product and deceptive marketing.[16] Verbatim responded that the new discs were a further development of the older discs and should have the same longevity, and that the technical changes therein were responsible for the altered appearance and higher write speeds.[17] The updated M-DISC currently sold on the market uses the same metal ablative layer (MABL) metal oxide inorganic recording layer used in many of Verbatim's regular Blu-ray products.[18]M-Discs are a scam. Use normal BD-R.
>>107411367Now and then. I rip them more often
>>107411367yes but at 48k instead 44.1k
>>107411367I still do because my car has a cd player... and it is also the most reliable form of data storage. I have cdr's from 20+ years ago that still work.
>>107411367Yes. I have an old ass car that only has a cd player. And FM transmitters sound like ass so I burn albums to cd's.
it's been at least 10 years since I've written to any optical media, I still have some blank disks but they're probably trash by now
I use blue-ray disc of 25Gb to keep important documents and photos that I rarely need but wanna keep just in case
>>107411367Yes, what else would you do with them
>>107412658Uhm.. No they're not
>>107416493Look into M-Disc for storage/archives. 100GB if you get triple layer
>>107411367was burning a bunch for my unmodded PS2
>>107411367I sure do. The stack is getting smaller and I might have to move back to logs.>>107412631>what's the best program to rip a cd 1 to 1dd.dd if=/path/to/cd of=/path/to/file.isoYou'll be able to find gui frontends for dd I'm sure ... but why bother. Just be ***VERY*** sure of the of= target. There's a reason folk call this "disc destroyer", and it's 'cause they used it wrong.
>>107413128>we shoildnt let them die. If they die we'll own our information even less.They're designed to fail. If you don't remove them from existence, you *will* own less, and need to constantly replace it.
>>107416723I already have my archives on 8.5gb DVD or Blu-Rays. M-Disc does sound promising though. I just hope it's not a scam... DVD's and Blu-ray are proven technology, M-Disc isn't.
>>107412631cdrdao
>>107411367No
No
>>107412658/thread
>>107416493>and it is also the most reliable form of data storage.Compared to what? writing in the sand next to the tide?Unless kept in archival conditions, they fail rapid. They don't stand up to any form of wear, let alone abuse. > have cdr's from 20+ years ago that still work.This isn't the common story. I'll accept it as fact 'cause I can look after shit so I know it's possible, but generally anything exposed to the "real world" doesn't work after 12 month, let alone 20 times that. If there's kids involved, that number drops significantly.
gotta store that porn somewhere
>>107416806It's the most reliable compared to HDD's and SSD's... Tape might be more reliable but I haven't researched about archiving with tape.If it was stored correctly CDR's most certainly last 20+... I guarantee you there are multiple people in this thread that can attest to their CDs lasting that long.>but generally anything exposed to the "real world" doesn't work after 12 monthAll of my CDs were used multiple times in my car and elsewhere. They still work like the day I burned them. Keep them in a case when your done with them and you shouldn't have problems.
>>107411367I've bought a bunch of CD/DVD RWs to play around with and I'm getting annoyed with how inconsistent my various drives are with reading and writing them, even the ones that are supposed to be able to support those formats.
>>107416880>They still work like the day I burned them.Yeah, if you can look after your shit, that is *possible*. It rarely happens.>Keep them in a case when your done with them and you shouldn't have problems.Shouldn't. But it happens. There was actually caddies for these things, like an old floppy case to sit around the disc. They never made it into the real world because that'd mean discs might be able to last more than ten seconds before they need to be replaced....
>>107411367Yeah, for my car.
>>107416493same here, CD-R's and DVD-R's from two decades ago, still as good as newmy factory pressed CD's and DVD's will easily outlive me.
>>107416938If people can't look after their discs that is a problem of their behavior... not the media itself.Why didn't normal jewel cases work for you? I'm playing a CDR right now that is 25 years old just to spite you lol. Thanks for reminding me to revisit my old collection.
>>107411407Why do you make wav images instead of making cue/flac?
>>107416985>I'm playing a CDR right now that is 25 years old just to spite you lol.It's your face. Hack at that nose all you want.>If people can't look after their discs that is a problem of their behavior... not the media itself.Yeah. Designing it with all the fragile parts intentionally exposed is definitely an end-user problem. For clarities sake, I'll mention the only time I've experienced issues is when other people have been near them, but that only highlights my point. You grab a USB stick and throw that about like a cunt and it'll still work. You grab an SD card and use it to clean ice off a window, it'll still work. Optical media doesn't, due to a design fail. This is very much a problem with the media itself. The solution already existed, and was even deployed in a few niche areas, but never made it into mass market because these things were *supposed* to fail. Go buy another one.
>>107416753>Just be ***VERY*** sure of the of= target. There's a reason folk call this "disc destroyer", and it's 'cause they used it wrong.If you're afraid of wiping wrong drive with dd you can always give target drive read/write access and then dd it from regular user.
>>107417048I'm not "afraid". Just pointing out the danger of inattentiveness around the of= as this is the common source of fuckup.Fucking with drive mountings is one way. Seems easier to just pay attention to what you're doing.
>>107417034We are talking about archiving though... who is using their archived media to scrape ice off a window? You're confusing the terms "reliable" and "durable". Yes... if you or someone you know mishandles your discs they will fail prematurely. But my point still stands... optical media if stored properly will outlast any USB drive, SD card, HDD, or SSD. Thereby making it the most reliable form of archiving media.
i don't burn them, not anymore, but i used to do so religiously, alas i don't have the equipment anymore because laptop manufacturers decided to remove disk drives from existence :(
>>107417581build a period correct desktop and weigh it down with a 10kg plate
>>107417581you can get external drives
>>107411367Yeah, for my car stereo. But I mostly burn BD-Rs
recommendations for an external optical media drive so I can rip and burn any disc?
>>107411367I burn game ISOs to CD pretty often.
>>107416806I have 25+ year old CDR's that work. I don't have a single CD that doesn't work unless it was scratched. My 35 year old Sega CD games all work. Only discs that I own that have disc rot are couple laserdiscs.
>>107417034CDs have a design weakness because the reflective layer is only protected by a thin layer of lacquer. It's not designed to fail, it's just designed to be owned by people who take care of their property. DVDs and Blurays fixed this by sandwiching it between two layers of polycarbonate. Scratches in the plastic don't matter at all, you can polish them out and the disc will read fine.
>>107420223CD, while not the first of its' kind, what the first really popular example of it.if you look at it in hindsight, it sounds almost silly to put the data layer on the surface, but cd was designed for music, for LP record people, people who were already trained to not so much as touch the surface of a disc, much less scratch it.it was only 10+ years later that cd was extended to be used for data and other stuff
>>107411367I still burn MP3 CDs for my 2012 car. It has an aux port but I don't like fiddling with my phone on the road.
>>107421164nobody did that before 2000. go to goodwill and grab the 1st boots randolph or mitch miller record you find, it has sweat, hand oil, cigarette tar & is coated in scratches. the alanis morrissette cd across the aisle is smudged and scratched, but plays perfectly. that's why cd destroyed the lp market in less than 10 years
Physical media is king
I burn ganja
>>107417016yeah I later compress them (lossless or lossy) for the different devices.
>>107424106also split the file in the different songs.
