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>News & Rumors
Memory situation unlikely to get better until at least 2027
RTX 50 Super, 2026 launch? 24GB VRAM for 5070 Ti & 5080 Super, 18GB for 5070 Super. Potentially cancelled, likely q3 if still being released
Nova Lake 2026
Dual 3d cache "9950X3D2"
AMD FSR "Redstone" Arrives December 10, Exclusive to Radeon RX 9000 Series

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

>Other helpful Links
Mobomaps, currently only lists a selection of AM5 boards but is being actively updated : https://mobomaps.com/
A PC build guide : https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Build_a_PC
German autism : https://www.igorslab.de/en/
Monitor reviews : https://www.rtings.com/


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All you need for 4k gaming

>>107412309
op's pic is the best LAN setup in iraq

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>>107412309
>RAIDMAX SMILODON
gem PC case

What the fuck is x3d cpu or whatever? Do I need it or not?
Use cases: gaming and productivity

So 10th gen gaming is essentially canceled right? It’s not like 9th Gen started either…

I'm getting a new nvme ssd tomorrow. I figure I should make it my main drive since my old one is significantly slower. Should I install Windows 10 or 11 on it? I have 10 pro right now. I'm mainly just wondering if there's any performance to be gained by switching to 11, with games or anything else. And which versions should I install? LTSC or a different one?

>>107412769
11 obviously and just uninstall the copilot shit it's really not as big of a deal as the internet makes you think

>>107412546
for gaming yes, X3D has extra cache, useful
for productivity no, extra cache not so useful

if you /gayme/ you will get benefit so recommend it if you can afford the extra shekels

My son is suddenly dropping it on me (the day after cyber monday) that they want a new graphics card for christmas, and I'm hearing others say that they want GPUs are going up in price. Have I already missed the opportunity to get a deal on a GPU? Do deals keep going throughout "cyber week" or did I truly miss out?

>>107412769
there is an entire thread for this

>>107389865

>>107412546
>productivity
>x3d
lololololololol

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>>107412546
it's an overhyped reddit meme

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>>107412834
my CAD uses it for the rendering anon

>>107412769
I tried 11, good luck with double click jeet OS if you try it

>>107412825
GPU I bought already went up in price again you can still find some deals about but really you gotta pick one this week

>>107412863
Chance fresh deals will trickle in through the days this week? I can refresh the usual places and try to get one if so.

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>>107412546
It's a CPU that has triple the usual amount of L3 cache that's enabled by stacking a cache chip onto the cpu

>>107412848
Factorio measurements are an overhyped reddit meme
Saves that are small enough to fit their entire data set in the cache run at ~300+ UPS
But the normal gameplay is locked to 60 UPS anyway

>>107412825
What graphics card do they have now?

>>107412916
4096MB Radeon RX 580 Series

>>107412950
maybe look into the 9060 8GB model

>check the price of my pcpp list now that the sales are over
>shit shot up by £250, not including ram
>with RAM goes up £550
it was a good black november after all
but thank fuck and all the doomer anons in here that I started buying at the top of the month, by the end it was all fucked up and too late

>>107412848
why dont you go back and put them in their place?
also how long until you shill that retarded cpu with the cheap mobo but skip the ram part?

>>107412309
4k or 1440p for older games?

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DECEMBER 2026

ANOTHER YEAR PASSES

THE ETERNAL WAITFAG HAS MADE IT THROUGH ANOTHE YEAR BUYING NOTHING AT ALL

REST NOW ETERNAL WAITFAG

THERE WILL BE MORE HARDWARE TO NOT BUY NEXT YEAR

NEXT YEAR

>>107412899
>Factorio measurements are an overhyped reddit meme
anything for maximum (You)s
but you know there's a nugget of truth in there
>Saves that are small enough to fit their entire data set in the cache run at ~300+ UP
>But the normal gameplay is locked to 60 UPS anyway
yeah that's why you don't use the small maps
>>107412993
>why dont you go back and put them in their place?
i think i would have to farm karma for a few years or something idk
i don't post there
>also how long until you shill that retarded cpu
i usually only shill the 14600K

>>107413002
i wonder what the average waitfag is packing, some cheap alienxpress xeon kit?

>>107413002
I bought a new monitor, mobo, cpu and ram, keyboard, coffee grinder and a smartphone tho

>>107412950
9060 XT would be good and can be yours for less than $400 right now.

>>107412877
Some Cyber Monday sales seem to have been extended to help get rid of surplus stock, but I wouldn't count on used or clearance items until January. I recommend comparing the sale prices to the MSRP rather than the listed price. If you have a Microcenter in your area, be sure to check it as well.

>>107413002
>THERE WILL BE MORE HARDWARE TO NOT BUY NEXT YEAR
Bold assumption given the way things are going

>>107413002
I have failed this year
I boughtened an SSD (and will need to buy one more soon at this rate)

>>107413042
If you're saying $400, is it a steal at $300? Can it be used for local AI with only 8gb?

ASUS ROG Strix GeForce RTX 5070 Ti OC Edition
any decent or should I go after something cheaper?
idk if I trust PNY enough, or the cheap MSI ones

>>107413157
you need nvidia for local ai and high vram helps to run larger models
16gb vram nvidia gpu costs about 900$

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>>107412309
now is the time

why is it rare for a brown man to have a graphics card?

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Time to replace my OS drive?

>>107413158
Feel like if you're splurging for premium 5070 ti you may as well bite the bullet and get a cheap 5080. PNY Plus model is apparently good, avoid MSI Ventus and Shadow since MSI skimped super hard on entry models this gen. Gigabyte Windforce is the cheapest on sale model and is apparently fine as long as you avoid vertical mounting bc of Giga's whole Goo issue that may or may not be resolved. Asus Prime and TUF (this is like the breaking point cost wise for the Ti) are generally solidly built

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>>107413199
pathetic

>>107413224
>All of that on 80GB
How

GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 5060 Ti
VS
ASUS Dual Radeon RX 9060 XT 8GB

For gaming and AI? I generally like AMD stuff but for AI the nvidia would be superior I'm guessing

>>107413218
in my country the 5080s are a huge jump in price almost 500 dollars
but the difference between a premium 5070ti and a cheap one is not as big
5080 just makes no sense, might as well jump to a 5090
How about MSI gaming trio, is that a nice middle ground?

I wonder if the CEOs of Nvidia, AMD, Samsung, etc would like an up-close presentation of the features of the hellfire missile.

>>107413231
This thing is 13 years old or something anon and it has been on like 3 different computers, it refuses to die.

>>107413270
a third worlder made this post

>>107413261
Yeah MSI makes good Nvidia rtx50 cards, apart from the Ventus that is

>>107413002
I wanted to Wait but Fate forced my hand.

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Is the 16-pin power connector on 9070 XTs as bad as on the NoVideos?

>>107413346
why would it be any differnt

>>107413346
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HjnByG7AXY

>>107413372
forgot about kermit the frog

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>>107413368
>>107413372
Well, shit.
Thanks /g/.

>>107413346
in "theory" they made a safer version but the housefire connector was designed to fail for everyone

>>107413415
they did not make it a single bit safer

>>107413346
Yeah it's the same. Avoid until they release an updated version that's capped to 300W or stops melting on it's own

>>107413424
thats what i said, sapphire made the mistake to announce that
at least assrock silently released a housefire version without lying about it
>>107413431
even adafags realized they were slowly but surely suffering the same fate

>>107413431
Was this me being a noob or the paste? I bought a thermal assassin CPU cooler, it came with thermal paste tm-7. The paste was super vicious, dry, wouldn't stick, I tried to get a good pea size amount and tried the X method too and it would just slide around, still stuck to the applicator. super thick stuff. I've ended up cleaning off any residue and I'm waiting for a different paste.

>>107413476
Whoops didn't mean to reply to that post. My bad.

When people say For AI what do they mean what are they doing

>>107413157
Yeah it's a steal for $300, but AI is not its strong suit.

>>107413476
I'd drop $5 on Arctic paste regardless.

>>107413476
You got a pouch of cornstarch béchamel sauce with that cooler.

>>107413501
Gooning.

Fucking amazon sent a package via ups and says it was delivered hours ago but it's not here. They're saying to wait 24 hours befote they'll step in. Item I bought is now sold out so I'm fucking annoyed if they fucked this up. Anybody else had a package say delivered and then it got delivered later?

>>107413595
That bad?
>>107413534
Have done, thanks.

>>107413599
In my anecdotal experience, either: they left it at the wrong address and you should go up your street and have a quick look; or the driver scanned it early because he's cheating the timings on the system to look more efficient and it may still arrive.

>>107413628
Oh, also: if applicable, check behind your gate and stuff, because sometimes they leave stuff in random places.

>>107413476
I had some paste like that. Used like 3-4g of it on my cpu to make sure it was covered because it just wouldnt stick nicely for me to spread. It's supposed to be really good stuff, like a little better than TG duronaut @ 1/3 the price, but hard to work with so I just said fuck it and stuck the cooler on there. Seems to be working just fine though.

Is it worth upgrading from the 6600 to the 9060 XT 16 GB?
I am not poor I am just extremely stingy

>>107413677
non-flagship 6000 series was absolute ass so that would be hueg upgrade

>>107413255
why would you even consider 8GB?

>>107412546
If you're getting one, buy it asap before the Ryzen CPU price hikes tonight. 7800x3D is cheapest it's been, or the 9800x3D if you want to splurge a bit
>>107412825
There weren't that many discounts, a few 10-30 dollar rebates from the 5070ti and 9070xt models I was looking at for weeks. US prices for cards are lowest they've been in a long time (below MSRP), so now's the time if you need to for family. AMDs offerings dropped significantly if you don't care about AI or more FSR supported games. If you need AI, then buckle up, because you're paying +150 nvidia tax for all the extra features they offer

>>107413628
Well shit. Yeah i already looked everywhere but didn't start looking until like 3 hours after it said delivered so it was already dark and neighbors had all got home from work. Also don't wanna talk to my neighbors about it because it's 2025 and nobody does that anymore. FUCK. Just going to scratch my skin off like a methhead while I wait for it to hopefully show up I guess

>>107413002
After waiting forever, I boughted the 9800x3D, some MX-6 paste, 32 GB DDR5, and I'm about to drop the hammer on an MSI TRIO 5070ti. Just gotta pick a motherboard tomorrow

fuuuuuuuuck stop buying, you fuckers are contributing to the price rise with your fomo. wait for me

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>>107413501

>AMD jacking the prices of everything by 10% tonight

>>107413863
>had to waitfag because gpu prices were unreal in my country
>wait
>ram and 9800x3d insanely pricy
>if I keep waiting gpu prices will pick back up
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
CANT EVEN HAVE A SECOND TO BREATHE I HATE AI SHIT

>>107413849
Hey that's the card in my PC right now!

>>107413898
Cool, I was going to buy the white version for $819 US a few days ago, but decided to
>wait
and then it sold out, so maybe the MSI Trio for the same price. The regular black version of the TUF is $850

>>107413863
what timezone is "tonight" supposed to be im not from the us

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>>107413823

I found someone selling 5800x3d, a motherboard, and 64gb ddr4 for $540. Is that a good deal?

>>107414121
Yes that is good.

Is a RX 9060 XT 16GB for around $370 (before tax) good to get? Or am I better off waiting? (have RX 580 4GB)

In case anyone was curious: that $200 4k/1080 monitor is unusable because of the colors plus mine had dead pixels.

>>107414121
>mfw you could unironically sell the cpu and/or ram and profit from thhat
>mfw nf
grim state of things
also the answer is yes, be sure everything works

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>$150

I also waitfagged until the bottom of DDR4 prices, snagging 64GB DDR4 3600 CAS 16 for $120.

>>107414121
Yes.

>>107414614
>meant to >>
>>107413625

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Oh no.
I WAITFAGGED too long.

i have an evga 3090 ftw3 ultra on my hands, bought it off of ebay years ago and only saw the rev number of death on the pcb when it was too late.
what should i do with it? test it and if it works resell it?

fuck it, i'm just going to buy the 9800X3D. been wanting to upgrade from my ryzen 7 3700x for a while now and waited and procrastinated to the point where i saw the ram i wanted shoot up in price to be higher then the mobo and cpu i wanted combined. i don't want to wake up tomorrow and see case fans costing more than my rent.

>>107414657
sdd's?

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>>107412309
Do you anons know of any super duper secret place where I can buy CPUs for cheap?

>>107414657
it's never too long. just wait a bit more.

>>107411765
>crank higher settings
That doesn't improve your score.

The 5090 doesn't have an especially fast clockspeed.

>>107414657
At least wait for Celestial

>>107414728
Why not just solder them yourself, you're a go getter

>>107414657
>boughted 9800x3d and 64 gb of 6000 mhz of ram right before the price hikes
couldnt be me

>>107414509
5070 or 5060ti

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I'm thinking about biting the bullet before things get worse. I'm mainly focusing on doing 3d/editing/vm usage/gayming, so that's why I'm doing intel. My budget is 3k max and I'm in the USA. I shouldn't have waitfagged so hard and I don't know what I'm doing, I wanted 64gb but those prices are killer

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LKjHkf

>>107414800
I fear the grip of insanity it would pull over me.

>>107414859
Goddamn. I feel awful for niggas like you getting ripped off this bad. Only thing I can say is to only pull the trigger if you're willing to face the consequences.

>>107414859
Should look at the 285k or 265k and z890 if going intel ddr5 even if the gayming performance is worse. Also try to fit a good 4tb nvme drive in there and your build is solid

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>>107414680
>i don't want to wake up tomorrow and see case fans costing more than my rent.
Let's crank up all the audio cards and USB port attachments while we're at it

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>got 32gb of ddr4 team group ram for $60 + tax back in 2024
>Thought it was expensive for what I was getting but was like fuck it
>Anons chastised me for not waiting
>Flash forward
>Ram crisis
>Check on the ram I bought
>Expecting $90 or something
>Actually it's $180 now
>A single 16gb stick is $120
>When it was $30 for me
>....

Holy fuck. Complete insanity.

>>107414815
Any particular reason why?

>>107414977
I bought some preemo 2x32gb 6000cl26 sticks for an exorbitant $480 back in march. Today a shit binned 2x32gb 6000cl36 kit costs over 50% more than what I paid for mine

>>107414977
If you follow pricing at all, it's pretty obvious when prices have hit at least a localized floor. Anyway 32 GB for $60 was a low price, I doubt anyone really argued that you overpaid or that the price would fall much further

>>107413691
Flagship RX 6000 was just as ass

>>107415013
I followed Amazon charts and they actually went for a better price like $50 before. Plus, team group was a black sheep and apparently the ram I got was super slow. It's a 3200mhz unbuffered cl22 for reference.

>>107413677
Yes, if you need something that will play modern games. 5060 Ti 16 GB is better if you're not poor

i only just built my am4 rig 2 years ago and now i'll be X3D'ing on am5 this weekend... feels weird rotating hardware this fast

>>107415143
Zen4 was a heck of a lot faster than zen3 so it's worth it to do a 2 yearly upgrade even back in 2023

>>107414977
>ram for $60
>Thought it was expensive for what I was getting
You expect this shit to be free or what?

>>107415155
ye i guess my mind still hasn't left the broke college student mindset where i'd run my low-end shit to the ground

>>107414859
>vm usage
with 32gb and a 14700K i hope you are tempering your performance expectations for VM work

what are you gonna be doing with vms?

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>>107414859
>14700k
lol, lmao even. imagine willingly buying intel in this day and age. especially that gen. enjoy your degradation m8.
>5070 ti
top kek

>>107415307
jealousy on display

>see lots of 5060 ti 16GB selling for alittle over $300 in old listings earlier this month and last
>look now and all of them are over $400
What happened? Is now just not a good time to get a gpu?

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>>107415325
yes, I was truly salty about not getting scammed by merchants from intel aviv and njudea.

>>107415307
>>107415355
I hope everyone enjoys the irony of these posts while he's posting pol AI with them

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>>107415343
santa claus has been buying up all the GPUs for his elf-slaves and the evil AI is gobbling up all the DRAM chips which has led to the effect of every damn thing that uses DRAM chips to cost more shekels

>it's been a rough month for /pcbg/

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>>107415366
>pol AI
don't mind if I do!

>>107415393
Should I waitfag and sit it out for 3-6 months or is it just going to get worse?

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>>107415411
it only gets worse before it gets better, which is uncertain. just go buy it, now.

>>107415307
>>107415355
>probably just nervous because of potential abandonment issues.
>AMD Throws Loyal Radeon Customers Into The Trash - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsjjFr9mB7w

>>107415425
I don't want to overpay $100 on a gpu. Feels shitty. Is this really the fucking end or is this just temporary like 2020 was?

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>>107415411
>/waitfagged/ for years
>finally decided: gonna /pcbg/
>RAM prices had already shot up
>that was two weeks ago
>the RAM i bought for $385 then is now $519
>a month ago it was .. a lot less

the news is grim, anon, and only you can decide what to do with your hard-earned shekels

>>107412309
Why is there no section on motherboards?

>>107413771
>If you need AI, then buckle up, because you're paying +150 nvidia tax for all the extra features they offer
AMD GPUs can't be used to run AI?

>>107415614
Of course they can. Nvidia is just better at it and a lot of the tools are designed specifically for Nvidia. It's worth the extra cost if that's one of your main uses for a GPU.

>>107414948
I'm kicking myself hard, even worse is that I'm still thinking about waitfagging to see if anything improves by mid/late this month. don't be like me bros

>>107414955
Thanks for checking it out. I was looking at the 265k originally, but 285k w/ z890 flew under my radar, I'll give it a look. I'll likely grab it per your recommendation since I never try to max out gaymes anyways. I appreciate the tip about the nvme, slipped my memory that I didn't add anything for storage it in there. I'll probably pick up the 990 EVO and an HDD, not sure which yet but I'm out of the loop in general

>>107415291
I was worried about that, I'm glad but also irritated I was right. I wasn't planning on more than light usage for now, like running my browsing or whatever through it, but ultimately I wanted to be able to isolate and run software on there without having to worry about any compatibility issues, etc. I don't think RAM is ever going to go down to its original prices again

>>107415343
This is just the start. Expect high vram cards to become even more pricey and scarce since Nvidia left their partners in the ditch by no longer guaranteeing gddr7 with each GPU shipped to them

>>107415459
It's a temporary promo price before it shoots up to and stays at $600

>>107414955
how would it be worse than his current list? 285k is better and more expensive as with 265k which is the successor to the 14700K. how do those choices and the motherboard you listed relate to the choice of DDR memory, and why would it worsen gayming performance even when they are the more expensive options, and why would you still make that choice then? (noob here)

>>107414977
is the RAM crisis just because of those deservant of death (s*m *ltman and his likeness), Trumps tariffs, or both? or something else?

>>107415603
I dunno. Maybe because there are a lot of options without a clear hierarchy of which boards are better than others like there is with CPUs and GPUs, and prices jump around a lot too.

>>107415639
ah, yeah im new to hardware, thanks

>>107415659
>Nvidia bad anytime they stop being a charity

DOES ROSEWELL MAKE GOOD CASES?

HURRY

>>107415646
please explain to me how more expensive CPU like 265k or 285k would worsen gayming performance compared to 14700k?

>>107415713
thanks for clarifying. as someone new to hardware the CPU and GPU specs and titles all seem very confusing, it seems like you need to know the specs of each individual piece to compare them, their names just seem like random numbers. First i thought that a CPU speed in hertz was all that mattered but i read online that this isn't the case.
it suprises me that most of the people in this thread seem to know exactly how each one measures up

>>107415764
>charity costs $10/gb

>>107415646
>worried about that
if you are going to run a single VM at a time to hide your futanari collecting habits then your CPU and RAM selections will work OK

>I don't think RAM is ever
you and me both but i do think it will get better
maybe
in 2028

>>107415801
It's generally quite straightforward.
>Intel CPU
Let's take 3 examples:
i3-10100, i5-12400F, i7-14700KF
i3/i5/i7/i9 is the "tier" of the CPU - i3 is entry level, i5 is midrange, i7 is high end, i9 is professional. Generally the main difference is amount of cores.
Let's look at the other numbers.
>10xxx, 12xxx, 14xxx
This is the generation. 10th gen, 12th gen, 14th gen. Straightforward.
>xx100, xx400, xx700
This is the "exact" tier of CPU. For example, i5 CPUs come in the xx400 and xx600 varieties. The xx600 ones are better than the xx400 ones.
>F, K, KF
F means no iGPU - you would need a dedicated GPU to get video output. K means unlocked multipliers for overclocking. KF means both of these things are present.
Now let's look at the latest intel CPUs:
>Core Ultra 7 265K
7 is the tier, this can be 3, 5, 7 or 9. Ultra means, uh, better than non-Ultra. 265K is like the old 14700K, 2xx is the gen, 2nd gen, x65 is the tier (65/100 performance if you want to think about it that way), K means unlocked for overclocks.

Now let's look at AMD Ryzen:
>Ryzen 5 8500G, Ryzen 5 9600, Ryzen 7 9700X, Ryzen 7 7800X3D, Ryzen 9 9900X
Ryzen is the brand name for AMD CPUs, like "Core".
>5, 7, 9
That's the tier, exactly like intel CPUs.
>9xxx, 7xxx
This is the generation. It's not exactly "7th gen", "9th gen", but bigger number is always newer. 7xxx is Zen 4, 9xxx is Zen 5 generation.
>x5xx, x6xx, etc.
The tiers. A Ryzen 7 can for example be both x7xx and x8xx.
>[blank], F, G, X, X3D,
Nothing at the end means it's the "non-X" variant. Generally similar performance to the X but more power efficient and comes with a free cooler. F means no iGPU. G means particularly good iGPU. X is the "regular" variant. X3D means it has extra "3D cache" for gayming and such.

I'm running out of reply length so I'll do GPUs in a separate reply.

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>>107415694
it YOUR fault for allowing the AI upon the world, anon

>>107415884
Okay, so the AIBs better pay up for their own VRAM then, its cheap anyway.

Why does /g/ like the 5060 ti 16gb more than the 9060 XT 16gb? Is it worth the extra ~$40?

>>107415659
>>107415662
Shit is bad. Would I just be better off waiting $6 months then getting a GPU? A year?

>>107415801
>>107415907 (me)
Also, some basic examples of CPU comparison.
i9-9900K is a very high end CPU from 9th gen, so around 2019-ish. i3-12100F is an entry level CPU from 12th gen. Ryzen 5 1600X is a very old midrange CPU from "first gen" Ryzen. Ryzen 7 7800X3D is a last-gen high-end gaming CPU. (There's also Xeon, EPYC and Threadripper but you needn't care about those if you're gaming.)

As for GPUs, it's even more simple. I'll only be talking about GPUs made in the last 5 years as those are the only ones you should realistically buy.

Nvidia:
>RTX 3060, RTX 3070 Ti, RTX 4080, RTX 5090
RTX means a GPU with Ray Tracing hardware.
>3xxx, 4xxx, 5xxx
That's the generation/series. Bigger number, newer.
>xx60, xx70, xx80, xx90
Those are the "tiers". 50 and 60 are entry level to lower midrange. 70 is midrange. 80 is high end and 90 is very high end.
>[blank], Ti
Nothing here means it's the "regular" GPU in this tier. "Ti" means it's the higher specced GPU within this tier, generally there isn't a huge performance gap (5-15%), but with something like 5070 and 5070 Ti there actually is a pretty big one.

AMD Radeon:
>RX 5500 XT, RX 6700, RX 7900 XTX, RX 9070 XT
RX means, uh, something, I dunno. Doesn't matter.
>5xxx, 6xxx, 7xxx, 9xxx
This is the generation/series.
>x5xx, x6xx, x7xx, x8xx, x9xx, etc.
This is the tier within the generation. Biggerer is betterer.
>[blank], XT, XTX, GRE
Blank means the basic variant, duh. XT is the "standard" variant, better than basic. XTX is more powerful than XT. GRE is weaker than XT, but likely better than a non-XT if such a card even exists.

A general rule of thumb for GPU is:
The X-tier GPU of one generation is on-par with the X+1 tier GPU of the last generation. For example, the RTX 5070 is about equal to a 4070 Super and 4070 Ti.
But wait, what's a Super? A mid-gen refresh. Think of them like a .5 series. Generally slightly better than the non-Supers, maybe with more VRAM.

>>107415950
Slightly faster™, DLSS4 > FSR4, 10 year driver support vs 4 years (best I can do), that's about it.
If it's 40 ameribucks for you then its +40 ameribucks, how much is that to you really?

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Is it okay to have a 990 EVO Plus for both OS and storage,games? I'm cheap so I don't want to order another SSD

>>107415950
The loicense to use DLSS in games rather than FSR is worth the 40 bucks.
>>107415987
Why not? Most people just buy a large main drive and use that for everything.

>>107415987
Yes but a separate small OS SSD is more convenient when you inevitably have to reinstall windows.

>>107412309
I bought used 6700xt for 240euros back in march, originally that was meant to be the only upgrade. But becase my CPU turned out to be the bottleneck I eventually splurged and built an entire new PC.

Now I'm thinking of upgrading 6700xt to either 9070xt (740e) or 5070ti(870e). Am I being retarded or will I get a meaningful upgrade out of it? And which one of the 2?

>>107412334
kek, yeah no. For native 4K, high refresh rate, you need a 5090

>>107412769
Windows 10 IoT LTSC

Windows 11 is unusable garbage

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>>107416081
anon moved on to >>107412829 so as to politely keep /pcbg/ on topic

>unlike (you)

>>107416075
>native
DLSS is a feature, anon. You paid for it. An AMD equivalent to the 5090 (idk, 9090XTXTXTX) would cost a decent bit less, and that difference is the DLSS tax.
With DLSS you can do 4K even on a 5060 Ti 16GB. Just set it to performance or balanced and you'll probably get 60 fps on sort of medium-ish settings. 144 with 3x MFG.
Ditto for the 5070.

>>107415767
I think they're better known for making cheap cases.

>>107416075
For upscaled 4K, high refresh rate, you can get away with a 5060

>>107416051
either is fine. moved away from my 6600 to a 9070 xt last march and i now can take advantage of my 165hz a lot more, which is nice.

best u grab one now too before those price hims hit

>>107415973
Probably 18-24 months unless the ai bubble pops

>>107416112
But it's fake 4K, it looks bad when you go below DLSS quality setting

>>107415307
I agree that the 5080 is the hidden correct choice

>>107416142
It's either pay 400-600 bucks and play fake 4K or pay 3000 bucks and play real 4K.
Would you say a car's HP is "fake HP" because it uses a turbo? If it's not naturally aspirated it's not real, it doesn't count? 200 HP on a naturally aspirated petrol engine is better and more real than 200 HP on a turbocharged diesel?
That's what you're saying about FPS at 4K native vs DLSS.

Are all RTX 5060 Ti 16GB basically the same? Some look bigger etc... Do I just buy the cheapest one??

Neweggs deals end in 20 minutes.

>>107416161
depends. whats your iq?

>>107416161
Just get the cheapest 16GB one. The most expensive ones start rubbing against the price of the cheapest 5070's.

>>107416142
Actually, DLSS gets a lot better the higher the res of the final output. If you're gaming at 1080 then yeah, you need DLSS at Quality, otherwise there's just not enough information there to reconstruct the frame from. But at 4K you can easily be at Performance and not notice; especially with the newer Transformer models.

>>107416161
The performance and capabilities are the same
The only differences are in looks, temperatures, noise and overclockability

>>107416171
>But at 4K you can easily be at Performance and not notice
No, I upgraded my monitor from 1080p to 4K and thought I could just use DLSS like many people recommend, but in War Thunder the image looked much worse on DLSS Performance or even Balanced compared to native 4K on my RTX 3060 12GB. I had to upgrade to a 5070 Ti, it’s fine for War Thunder in native 4K and the game looks great now, but the 5070 Ti struggles in other games at 4K

>>107416167
>>107416168
>>107416174
I feel like shit buying this though. Why was it $300 just last month and now its $420? I know this was happening with Ram but not GPUs

>>107416161
three fans are better than two fans

>the fukken NOISE

>>107416207
GPUs use vram made by the same few companies who make ram and can shift around wafer allocation between hbm and dram/vram/lpdram

>>107416171
That's kind of the wrong way to look at it. The base render resolution is what determines the quality of the final image. 4k (2160p) is rendering at 1080 with Performance mode. The exact same result is reached with a custom scale value of 75% with 1440p; 1440 * 0.75 = 1080, just that the 1440p output image is smaller and thus the finest details will be invisible compared to the 4k output.

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>>107416207
>know this was happening
kek

>>107416221
I understand. Are there logistical reasons USA or Japan don't make chips themselves? The USA doesn't have a single ram manufacturing factory?

I spent $450 after tax on a rtx 5060 Ti 16gb. How bad did I get fucked?

>>107416252
Japan used to be a huge dram maker in the 80s and 90s and they undercut US companies so badly that they were sanctioned and bankrupted by the USG
The US only has Micron as the only remaining ram manufacturer. Intel started off making dram but they exited that market because of it's unpredictable market cycles

Not sure if this counts as a build question or a stupid questions general, but I assembled a new rig today and I'm having...the absolute strangest problem I've ever seen.
>Asus B850 TUF Plus Wifi
>bigass AIO liquid-cooled 4080
>Ryzen 9-9950X
So I connect everything and it boots into BIOS as usual. Except I do the quick setup and it doesn't actually boot from the selected drive. DRAM light comes on orange and it just sits on a blank screen. Turn it off and back on, DRAM light is orange, blank screen. To get back to the BIOS I have to cycle the power and disconnect the CMOS battery.

But if I go into the "Boot" tab of the BIOS and use the manual boot override and select the drive (the only one with an OS on it), it runs like normal. The BIOS also isn't recognizing my GPU, though it's seated and plugged in, and it does the exact same thing if I switch to onboard graphics and reboot or even disconnect the GPU entirely. Ran chkdsk, sfc /scannow and DISM, no errors on the hard drive, though I have had a running issue with the in-OS reboot not working unless I manually cycle the power. Any ideas at all?

tl;dr new mobo will only load BIOS once unless I clear CMOS, won't load Windows unless I manually force the drive selection, won't recognize GPU.

>>107416360
>DRAM light comes on orange
Could be training the memory, leave it running for like 10-15 minutes.
Other than that it's definitely a ram issue, try checking each stick and the slots and disable expo (overclock).

>>107416360
post RAM model

try forcing PCIe 4.0 speed for the slot the 4080 is in to see if that will work
>weirder things have worked

in general with video troubleshooting, remove power from all devices in the image chain, then apply power to monitor first, then anything between like a capture card, then the GPU

after reset of CMOS *without* AC power plugged in and then applying power, does the system spin up by itself? not sure how Asus handles memory training but on my board if clear CMOS then it self-starts when i apply power and takes a bit (minutes) to train memory, the more ram, the longer it takes. eventually the POST happens.

in addition to manual boot selection is there anything in the boot order? any USB devices plugged in?

I don't like shutting down or restarting my PC because it always does memory training afterwards and the red light on the MOBO terrifies me.

RX 7800XT 16gb VS 5060 ti 16gb

Which one would anon choose and why?

>>107416471
7800 XT will perform better and it's what I would choose since I'm on loonix.

However if you need upscaling or CUDA then get the 5060 ti 16gb.

>>107416444
Would that cause the GPU to not register too?

>>107416452
Brand new G.SKILL Flare X5, 32GB on two sticks. Nothing else in the boot menu, but it does recognize if I plug a bootable USB stick into it. Doesn't self-start when I cycle the CMOS.

Man, where do you people come from with 10 minute trainings? Whenever I'm not sleeping my PC and finally let it shut down normally its long enough for the mobo to ask for a training session, then it does the job in less than 1 minute before I'm back in Windows (11), the time it takes for me to go grab another cup of (instant) coffee. What are you guys even doing with your setups to cause such hassles?

>>107416471
I would choose the 5060 Ti just because I'm an AI slopper and need my big anime stable diffused titties.
If I was a Linuxfag
>Uhm, ackschually, what you're refering to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux.
Then I'd probably go for the 7800 XT just for the better Linux support (kernel drivers) and raw performance.

Does anyone have a 1:1 comparison of 4K native and DLSS?

>>107416499
>>107416481
OK thats very clearly laid out... Thank you anons.

>>107416485
GPU stuff could be a knock on effect from the ram stuff which i'd look into first as you can't really troubleshoot the GPU side of things until you're actually in.
Did you do with windows install with Rufus or similar tools or straight from Microsoft?

>>107416486
Most of the time it won't take that long it's to prevent anons coming back saying
>It's not done anything after 30 seconds
when it's their first time training with a load of a ram. Pretty sure most memory and motherboard manuals say this too.

>>107416531
Microsoft, off a USB stick when I had a drive go corrupt. When I'm in Windows like I am now, it displays the 32GB RAM as functional.

War Thunder crashes if I try to run it, but Nightreign works, if that provides any info.

>>107412825
>they
Groomer

>>107416486
mine >>107416452 takes only a few seconds to POST* and a couple more to load the OS from a power down, its only a long time if i clear the CMOS

*my shitposting box, my workstation is another story, that bastard octouple-checks every goddam register even on a warm boot, ~2 minutes to load the OS and thats with the memory already trained.

>>107416584
Honest ESL mistake and/or multiple kids (e.g. "my son told me they (he and his brother/sister) want a new GPU") is a simpler assumption than whatever mental gymnastics you're doing, anon.

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>>107416584
interesting that you would pick that out ..

>>107416570
did you try forcing PCIe 4 speed for the slot, anon?

>inquiring minds want to know

>>107414859
if you want to assign a VM to each core keep in mind the E-cores won't be as good as regular cores
doubt that's your use case though
>>107415307
>>107415355
EDIT: thanks for the gold kind stranger!

>>107416506
Varies by game and how well the jeet devs implement it.

>>107416570
Any crash/error codes from War Thunder?

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Is FreeSync ass? My monitor has VRR (variable refresh rate) and I see random flickering when viewing photos, or playing games with the Firefox floating video player. Disabling VRR fixed these issues. Is this a common issue for FreeSync/G-Sync monitors, or there's a setting that removes random flickering while still benefit from using FreeSync?

>>107416645
Depends on monitor implementation

>>107416626
It's on a PCIe 4.0 slot, I don't need to set that, do I?

>>107416643
Nope.

And I should probably go sleep now, I'll reboot and see if the RAM thing works. Thanks for the help, dudes.

>monitor almost costs 2x more here in eastern europe than in the USA where costumers make more money too
That's some bullshit

>>107416659
maybe reroll to not be born in some thirdie shithole then.

>>107416659
just steal one from Hans, Ivan.

>>107416645
>monitor
OLED, IPS, or VA?

>and why are you using VRR for anything other than /gayming/? is your porn encoded at 200FPS or something?

>>107416674
Yaldabaoth specifically forbids rerolling and will trap my spark in purgatory instead of remaking me again in the material universe.

>>107416698
IPS. Using an ROG Strix monitor.

>and why are you using VRR for anything other than /gayming/? is your porn encoded at 200FPS or something?
VRR is on by default and took me a while to realize that's been causing the flickering.

>>107416658
>on a PCIe 4.0 slot
welp that torpedos my idea, no change needed. is there another slot you can try? does your mobo share PCIe lanes between slots etc?

>>107416722
>>107416658
Well fuck me sideways, turned it on and left it alone for about ten minutes, it was RAM training.

>>107416645
Have you tried disabling MPO? Sometimes that helps, depends on monitor.

>>107416698
>and why are you using VRR for anything other than /gayming/? is your porn encoded at 200FPS or something?
Because video players (even youtube) can use it to integer multiply frame times without interpolating or jitter because even 120Hz is not an integer multiple of 23.98fps.

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>>107416712
>on by default
kek

in general would not say freesync is ass because it has its use cases
>furpile videos is not one of them

>>107416712
Can't you just turn on VRR for full screen applications? GSync at least has an option for this.

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>>107416748
gol dang /pcbg/ actually helped someone

>holy shit

>>107416760
VRR is a monitor setting. Enabling it enables FreeSync on AYYMD Adrenaline, but I dunno if I saw a setting that lets me decide where to apply VRR. FreeSync is a global setting.

>>107413368
>>107413372
>>107413415
>>107413431
Does it matter for non-XT 9070 ? It's just 220W + OC

>>107416756
ahhhh what are these adorable little rats??

>>107416789
the connector is fundamentally flawed but the less power you push through it the less dangerous it gets
would be fine but that should still be your last option

>>107416771
You should be able to control it via freesync settings but I don't know how it works with AMD. GSync used to be buggy as hell on non full screen applications under windows. Not sure if they ever fixed this.

>>107416792
they are sugar gliders

>i should know better than to post furry things in /pcbg/
>all the /datacenter/ ops get excited

>>107416789
you'll be fine

>always follow the manufacturers instructions for connecting the power cable

>>107416829
>always follow the manufacturers instructions for connecting the power cable
don't tell me what to do

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Just changed GPU thermal pads. Does that bent is bad?

>>107416813
>don't know how it works with AMD
me neither, we need an AMD GPUtard to chime in with /instructions/

>nvidia has the option in the control panel to set 3d settings for individual programs under 3d settings->program settings tab
>within you can set "monitor technology" for either fixed refresh or G-sync (or to use whichever global setting you have set)

>>107416854
Does it /work/?

if yes, then it's not bad
if no, please tell us so we can laugh at your expense

>honestly it looks OK

>>107416870
PC starts good, didn't stress test yet, scared af

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>>107416829
>always follow the manufacturers instructions for connecting the power cable
sapphire should have made rigid angle adapter for their double retard connector implementation.
>literally impossible to plug it straight without bending

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>>107416847
you'd better not fat-finger that power connection, anon

>>107416886
just run furmark and watch your temps

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>>107416813
>>107416865
On AMD desktop/windowed VRR is called FreeSync Premium.
Disabling it means the monitor and gpu switch between VRR and CFR every time you alt tab to and from fullscreen game.
Enabling it means vidrel by default.

But on my monitor better solution was to disable Multi-Plane Overlay in registry. Solid 4K 12bit 120Hz VRR
No black frame drops, no noise, no artifacts when alt-tabbing, no jitter from multiple windowed gpu-accelerated applications etc.

>thread
I want to upgrade from 6800XT to a 9070XT, ITT, I should avoid the Nitro+ version?

Bros my RAM delivery is coming today. The stress and anxiety is almost over

I'm on a 3060 ti 8gb. Should I upgrade for future games or stick with what I got?

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>>107416899
the solution is pic related, has worked as a connector location for long time on Quadros

>so what are the AMD equivalent of these /pro/ GPUs?
>even with external power connectors, the datacenter models with no fans and pass-through cooling
>common for not-/consoomer/ oriented GPUs
>intel put their cards up for /budget/ and /business/ but nothing with this class of performance.

I got caught up in the rush and after 3 hours of comparing and watching benchmark videos, I pulled the trigger on a $420 5060 ti 16gb, thinking it was a deal, before realizing that's just what it costs on an average day, all the time.

I hate shopping PC parts, it's always manic and confusing.

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>>107417036
>420
>manic and confusing

sounds about right

>>107412334
Her ass is nice & tight on the backplate.

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I bought parts for a new max effort gaming PC yesterday to last me for the next 7-10 years. I honestly think this might be cheaper than buying a mid range PC now and another in 3-5 years. The prices are just going to balloon from here with the increased investment in commercial computing. I went from a 1080Ti to 5090, and 7900K to 9800X3D. It works out to around $1000 a year for a hobby that keeps me entertained for thousands of hours per year. Frame Generation technology will prolong the useful life of gaming hardware even longer.

>>107417054
Wtf are you going to run at 700 fps

I managed to connect the 3GB PATA drive from my first PC (bought Christmas 1997) and copy all the ancient stuff over without issues. The newest files on it are from 2005 and it spent twenty years on a shelf in my old room. Mental that it still works.

It's packed with photos, school stuff, save games, pen&paper RPG materials.... what a nostalgia trip.

>>107416899
>Power link
I remember when I bought a 1080Ti, EVGA emailed me to say they'd send me one for free.

So, I completed the order. And it just never arrived. I contacted support they apologised, but then just closed the ticket.

Never got it.

>>107416963
thanks for the read

>Multi-Plane Overlay
IDK what the translates to on the green team drivers

>had to google it
>seems the reg fix may not work any longer in some cases but IDK maybe it's in the driver settings somewhere now

107416963
>>107417135
Disabling multi plan overlay is a ancient workaround like telling people to disable hw accel in their browser. It's not good advice in 2026, its already fixed on 26200.7309 Windows + latest WDDM drivers.

>>107417054
kek'd i remember this

>BETTER THAN 60hz

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How did I do?

>>107417164
If you waited a few months you could have got a Phenom 2 quad core and 4870 1gb. That was the premiere dragon plaform to have coming into 2009.

>>107417177
Everyone told me to stick with Intel and I think I was under a strict $800 budget

>>107417164
>spending all that extra money for 0.16GHz over an E8400

>>107417164
phenom 2 was only $20 more and you got 4 cores instead of 2 and lots of l3 cache.

>>107417190
I don't blame them since Intel was everywhere in marketing. I never saw an AMD ad until like PS4.

>>107417201
And wait how many months? I was getting like 5 fps in WoW raids and probably wanted it sooner

>>107417210
The general consensus (maybe here too?) was that amd looked good on paper but had all these issues. So I often heard

>>107417211
Phenom 2 launched in 08 but prices didn't come down until 09 to 10.

>>107415976
>>107415907
Wow fren, thanks a lot for typing all that out, that really clarifies everything.
Some small questions:
So Ti and Super are both better versions of a card, with the difference being that Super gets released later down the line? I'm assuming Super is always a bit better than the Ti version still?
> 265K is like the old 14700K
Is that because 65 stands for 65/100 and 700 for 700/1000 so they are close in tier?
>G means particularly good iGPU. X is the "regular" variant. X3D means it has extra "3D cache" for gayming and such
Is this just for people who dont have dedicated GPUs?

Also, there still seem to be different versions of cards like the RTX5090 Vanguard SOC, AORUS Master Ice, Gaming Trio. I'm assuming they are minor differences but still a bit confusing

>>107417221
Phenom 2 was really really good. It was the architecture that came after (Bulldozer) was bad and made Intel rep so much stronger with the 2500k+.

>>107417201
People then would often say you didn't need more than 2 cores and no software or games supported them

>>107417249
Games were already using at least 2 cores by then. The other 2 were free for the OS or other tasks. It was a big deal to jump into emulation with a quad core because you had the latest CPU instructions and extra core lifting.

>>107417238
>both better versions of
the GPU die, they are binned and the best performing ones get to be TIs, it makes no difference when they get released

>Super
usually means more VRAM

>>107417238
>Is this just for people who dont have dedicated GPUs?

it's generally useful for troubleshooting it helped >>107416766 figure out that nothing was actually wrong with his /pcbg/

>>107417148
At least on LTSC 24H2 it is still an issue today with latest drivers and updates.
Disabling hw accel in browser can negatively affect user experience.
Disabling MPO has no visible negative consequences. Maybe, just maybe, it adds frame lag when running multiple windowed games at the same time.

>>107417135
>green team drivers
It's a windows feature, not a GPU feature. iirc the reg file disabling it to fix flicker originated on nvidia support forums.

I'm super stingy and bought a 9070xt but no PSU upgrade because I was hoping 650w would be enough since it'll be paired with a 5800x3d in a PC that is solely used for in-home-network game streaming. PC Parts picker has my total system draw at 503w, which leaves at least 147w overhead. Am I retarded, or can I make this work with undervolting and capping FPS to 120hz? I'm committed to buying a new PSU and monitor next sale when I've saved some more money.

What are you guys using ramdisks for? You all have 32-64GB of ram, surely you must be doing something with it

>>107417333
Disabling Multi Plane Overlay disables display engine features on all modern GPU. This negatively affects your fps and options today. Disabling MPO is a workaround for old GPUs using software schedulers instead of hardware schedulers.

>>107417348
should work just fine, cap the power and uv it to be safer. it is a quality unit I presume?

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>>107417354
I use more than one tab in firefox

>>107417359
Oh.
>Disabling MPO is a workaround for old GPUs
How old are we talking about? Cause >>107416963 is RX6800 on 24H2 with latest AMD drivers. Is there another, better workaround out there?

>>107417367
Gold rated Evga 650w supernova GM. It's an Sfx PSU, which is what I need to fit in my case. I might buy a bigger case and a regular ATX PSU if it's the same price as an amply watted Sfx PSU upgrade, but I've grown rather fond of my NR200 case. Either way, I won't be able to upgrade until whenever prime day is sometime in June.

>>107417238
Ti is just a mid tier better GPU so you can think of the rtx5070ti as an rtx5075 which sits between the 5070 and 5080

The different models of the same GPU comes with different cookers and PCBs but the essential components (GPU core and vram) are identical

>>107417354
64 GB of ram really isn't that much for video production / encoding work.

>>107417376
web browsers were a mistake

>>107417354
Haven't used one since 2015 desu and I have 64gb ram

>>107417434
>Sfx
you can get kilowatt SFX PSUs, you will easily find a 750 you like

>has a 750 SFX psu in shitposting box

How much of a leap is next gen GPUs gonna be in your opinion?

AMD next gen matching 5090?
Nvidia 6090 being 2x faster?

>>107417486
>Ti is just a mid tier better GPU so you can think of the rtx5070ti as an rtx5075 which sits between the 5070 and 5080
No, because Nvidia is guilty of nameflation this Gen. Every card is named one rank higher than they should be. The 5070 is the real 5060 Ti. 5070ti is a significan't jump, since it's still a 70 tier card compared to to the 60 tier that the base 5070 actually is. The 5070 Ti and 5080 are much closer in perf than the 5070 and 5070ti. It's not a mid step upgrade, it's a whole other performance tier.

>>107417663
amd next gen aiming for 6090 with their 192CU model which has literally 3x the CU of the 9070xt but will probably be 90% 6090 perf at best

>>107416901
my electrical components, my rules

Having 96gb of 6000c30 ram is a bigger flex than having a 5090
It's over

>>107417692
M-die is pretty meh if you don't need more than 64gb
I'd take 64gb A-die over that any day of the week since its timings can be run 10-40% tighter across the board

>>107417703
4800mhz c48 is the best I can do at this point, 8gb sticks
It is over

Ok but seriously, how would you sort for that during normal sticks then?
Idk more than buildzoid said 6000c30 were guaranteed hynix other than that idk
Not like it matters now though it's over

would you an Coolermaster V SFX 850W

>>107417689
90% perf at 90% the price of the 6090, but with way way better margins for AMD because unifying their architecture between gaming/server/AI cards will shrink costs of manufacturing. Amd will stay 10% marketshare and they won't care, because they'll still be making money hand over fist, and likely weather the AI bubble popping a lot better than Nvidia.

>>107413186
Not if you're moving from AM4 it isn't.

>>107417719
16gb and 32gb 6000cl30 sticks are mostly (~80%?) hynix A-die and some are older 16gbit M-die which is different from the 24gb and 48gb 6000cl30 sticks that are 24gbit M-die and can't run timings as tightly as both 16gbit hynix dies can

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>>107417689
Ayymd competing next gen? Maybe the wait will be good after all (not due to amd, but due to competition forcing Nvidia to try harder kek)

>>107413186
Hopefully they're just farming good reviews for the 9850x3d and 9950x3d2 by making existing CPUs comparatively bad value and will let the prices go back to normal in 3 months

>>107417735
>32gb 6000cl30 sticks are mostly (~80%?) hynix A-die
I should have boughted.. it's over again

>>107417748
yeah its an MCM monster but leaks are saying its mostly for workstation. hopefully they'll still bother making a halo 9900xtx card for gaymers and for their own brand image

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>>107417692
>boughted at $320
originally a 6400c32 kit
I could probably run it c30 but im running below stock voltage

if the 9800x3d is rated for 5600 why does everyone recommend 6000 instead

>>107417781
same reason why 9900K's were rated for 2666mhz but everyone was using 3200-4000mhz ram

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>>107417754
>workstation
hey maybe they will finally have something better than a Quadro

>theysayiteveryyear.com
>kek

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>>107417751
Why didn't thou boughtered, Ashen One?

>>107417703
>I'd take 64gb A-die over that any day of the week since its timings can be run 10-40% tighter across the board
i don't have either of these but the difference is not that drastic from what i've seen
and M-die can run higher frequencies which can be important on some platforms like arrow lake, and potentially zen 6, frequencymaxxing overclocks your IMC as well which indirectly reduces your latency more than 1-2 ticks on a few timings
>>107417786
>same reason why 9900K's were rated for 2666mhz
that was a laughably low numbers
intel really needs to start pushing more aggressive official memory controller specs, their CPUs need it
7200 on arrow lake refresh is a good start

>>107417781
because AMD is the one who has to deal with the RMA if you're in the 2% who get a dud chip that can't go that high

>>107417054
The fact that the limitation now is the manufacturers shitty scalers and the fact that they are sandbagging and spoon-feeding you slow updates every year
They can just design a 1000hz scaler and drop it in now
Prolly have it in the test labs already
OLED pixels are ready

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>corpos are doing the scalping now
How can we compete with big AI?

>>107417725
Nvidia is going to get bailed out on the US taxpayer's dime. Everyone knows it, we've been here before multiple times. Pray. PRAY that Trump makes good getting rid of income tax, because that's the only thing that could offset how hard we'll get fucked keeping all these trillion dollar companies from shuttering.

>>107417797
Flipflopping if I should build a desktop or not or just wait

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>>107417830
clown timeline

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>>107417796
wdym? they've always had pro cards like the w5700 and w7900

>>107417221
>>107417243
Phenom 1 was dogshit, probably even worse than Bulldozer for when it came out

>>107417844
>They took affordable housing
>They took sex
>They about to take the free internet
>They taking affordable digital drugs rn

Literally shittiest timeline ever

>>107417887
never commercially successful

>nvidia rules the pro market for years now

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>>107417916
gol darnit it sure is.

add /pcbg/ turning into /pol/ to your list and post it over there kthxbye

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>>107417945
hard to separate both when you have this guy killing pc building

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I just now remember this summer I did not boughted 2x32gb 6400c32 when they were on sale for 99€ either, I even vividly remember looking at this deal
This might have been the most brutal misplay

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>>107417965
demand driven technobullshit is what gives you every bit of computing power you use to bleat your plaintive complaints

>pic related was new a couple of years after i started my /pcbg/ journey
>every step of the way some nerd was in the news getting rich off of the latest fad tech
>/pcbg/ is as ephemeral as we make it
>gotto go molest the waifu, later anons

>>107417945
What are we gonna do, play games? Cyberpunk is 5 years old and the 5090 can't even max it out. Oblivion is almost 20 years old and the 5090 can't max it out in native res lol.

>>107412309
>Midrange
>3080ti
My gpu basically became mid tier in 2025? Should i just get 5090?

>SSD
>High-end: SN850X
What about Firecuda 530R? It's way cheaper here

>>107418071
yeah rtx4000 was the big leap
and no you shouldnt get the 5090 unless you're comfortable with the connector possibly melting under its 600W tdp

>load up a game for the first time
>my graphics card starts screeching like a fucking banshee
The coil whine is louder than my fans. Should I return it and get another one?

>>107418008
>Gay RGB modules
Nah. u missed the bullest or smth

>>107418008
>>107418162
I even vividly remember the deal being good but not that crazy or anything that would warrant panic buying since I was not even building
and I guess since 32gb was so cheap then too
also felt like I needed 6000c30 but why you can just change it in bios
now 600-750€
it's genuinely over
will never have a gaming desktop at this point
if the same situation exists in 18 months on 6090 release - it's over
might aswell wait out ddr6
just waitwaitwait for life to begin
I will never enjoy gaymen

>>107418158
Yeah. Get one that's entry level or midrange (e.g. pny instead of Asus strix/astral). Highend GPU boards are more prone to coil whine ironically

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no pc build until 2029
abandon pc building for 4 years I REPEAT ABANADON SHIP

>RAM sticks die
>1 month left till warranty expires
>Send them in
>Get better ones back because they were out of the ones I had
lady luck smiles upon me

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This month is your last chance to build yourself a new rig or upgrade even.

>>107418195
It's a 9070xt powercolor reaper