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Report all flamewarring, trolling, spamming posts. Long live /pcbg/!Post your /pcbg/ anyway but know that we have enraged the amdshitposter to the degree that he has vowed to shit up this thread with trash with the goal of killing it.remain vigilant, /pcbg/, report in silence, and above all - have fun.Spotting the shitposters: the shitposters may be working at gunpoint in a bot farm, paid shill/bot farm, lone schizo, etc. the shitposters rarely ever just tags the OP and asks for it to be updated or changed as asked for in the second part of the sticky. they also resort to things like ad hominem, racism, cherry picked benchmarks, false information, etc. and one of my favorite things is the lone post tagging no one but responding to some previous reply to whatever argument it felt it was losing or with a one-liner just to flood the vapid minds of the unwashed masses with <specific vendors products>. the shitposters necropost old tropes to flood the threads and bump post counts e.g. random garbage questions that any /noob/ would just google or disingenuous descriptions of problems that are copypasta with a few words changed in them. Single line, low-quality posts are often the copypasta. Most recently the OP appears to be trying a super stealth approach - creating the OP with only "subtle" alterations like "-Avoid Nvidia Due To Possible Melting Connectors & Driver Problems", griefing /g/ by creating and self deleting the thread after a short while, deleting the OP img, shilling native vs upscaling, etc.
I just robbed my local drug dealer and am now $1800 richer. Id like to allocate this as well as possible.First thing id like to buy is a 5080, which will probably run me around 1200-1400.But that still leaves about $500. I've often heard it said that one of the best improvements you can make to see immediate improvement in a gaming experience is upgrading your monitor. I have a 4k display but its only 60hz. What does a 4k display with a better refresh rate go for these days? Are there good options that arent ultra wide? What are the new features/display types in this price range?
>>1081924839070XT is shit-tier for productivity. It's good for playing old games, and that's kinda it.If you're going for productivity, Nvidia has dominated that market since like the 00s and now has a lot of inertia with various propriety technologies and whatever.
>>108192613>going for productivity, Nvidia has dominated that market since like the 00sYep. Worked my way through many Quadros.
9070XT is a poverty version of any nvidia card, but will probably do the job. However longevity is always up in the air. Gone are the "finewine" days where ancient graphics cards would age better than usual because AMD kept rebranding the same card for 3 gens in a row like the HD7970
>>108192546OLED OLED OLEDjust be at peace with the fact that it's ewaste that will burn in eventually. could be 4 months could be 4 years
>>108192642>OLED
I wouldve not hated the RAM shortage if it didn't affect SSDs and HDDs
>KTC M27T6No, avoid. Got one after reading some reviews. Overall the picture is good with nice colors as far as I can say. But if you sit roughly 1 meter (3 feetas) in front of it, you literally cannot see the outermost 4 pixels left and right, seems like a design/construction issue. Also, you got a shadowy area roughly 10 pixels around the border, same viewing distance.And the KTC website is chinkmaxxed so there are no downloads for firmware updates, no manuals, nothing. VRR doesn't work with loonix, sending fucky info over DP. Will send it back tomorrow, luckily bought it on amazon so it should work.
>>108192712this is why you don't listen to youtube shills who all start shilling 1 chinesium product all at the same time and then you never hear from them again and then those same youtubers make videos about "2 years with my oled I use every day god I love my oled oled is only shit I use oled oled oled fuck it makes my 5090 look so good I can't wait to get the new oled"
>>108192712I thought that was one of the ones I was looking at but apparently it's not. Still might say something about the brand in general.
>>108192725I love my 5090 and OLED.
>>108192735BEGONE YOUTUBER
>>108192735Youtube is for fags.
>>108192725even frogboy uses a 5090 despite shilling that cheap radeon crap 24/7
>>108192768Nothing better than selling false hope to buy a decent product for yourself.
>>108192712Isn't that one different from the KTC M27_P_6?
Zen 6 (Single-CCD) - 6 CoreZen 6 (Single-CCD) - 8 CoreZen 6 (Single CCD) - 10 CoreZen 6 (Single CCD) - 12 CoreZen 6 (Dual CCD) - 16 Core (8+8)Zen 6 (Dual CCD) - 20 Core (10+10)Zen 6 (Dual CCD) - 24 Core (12+12)
>>108192795ngl 6 core still being around is a surprise
>>108192795>Zen 6 (Dual CCD) - 24 Core (12+12)
>>108192514I wonder how be quiet cases would look with the flir camera, my pure base 600 got really warm almost hot to touch near the CPU cooler area on the metal strut
>>108192725got some good chinesium stuff, e.g. some replacement thinkpad parts (they didn't fit, had to use a file for a fan lmao), but this monitor is definitely shite>>108192734Yep, I will avoid this brand in the future.>>108192785Different model. Jewgling will tell you that their firmware updates apparently exist in chyna but not in other languages.Once I got a new monitor I'll link to >>108192712 and give a review of whatever I got instead.
If I robbed a drug dealer and had cash to burn for a desktop using mostly off the shelf parts>casesome full tower from be quiet or cooler master, further dampened and modded with 3d prints and filters/foams/mats with service led strips to make inside of case visible if i dont paint guts white, all 5.25 bays populated like toolbars maybe, i want something quiet as in good noise profile and easy to service in my old age, so maybe somethinf with wheels and a handle bar like the cm storm>cpui dont care as much but probably a 9950x3d or something power limited otherwise a monotlhiic chip cause I still caee about idle power a lot so maybe a xeon platform >coolernoctua chromax black obv possibly fan swapped wirh be quiet if the noise profile is better, otherwise some german serviceable aio maybe though i still regret not buying a liquid freezer despite reliability concerns>timdefinitely reusable ptm for every device if not diamonds, i want reliability>ramECC samsung memory, i don car retar>ssdrocket ship for boot drive, otherwise at least rwo 8TB enterprise 2.5" SSDs or higher >gpublackwell 6000 with deshroud and custom heatsink or waterblock >psuseasonic or be quiet with the best featueres>monitor4K-5K eizo coloredge or dell ultrasharp without hesitation for normal desktop, whatever CRTs are still around to stash for gaming>OSanything not w11 or osx>case fanssilent wings 4 and noctua on everything as needed, if ur a richfag no other can is worth burning money on, oh and dont forget the spacers/shims and silicone fan mountsi will alao buy the quietest and comfiest veerical mouse, build the quietest mechanical multimedia keyboard, buy 7.1 speakers + sub for home cinema and non headphone usewhat do you think of my fantasy
>>108192958oh yeah forgot to mention; I remember antvenom solving the problem of desktop PC noise by just going full plumber and setting up a custom water loop that goes down to the basement boiler room from his roomat least tht's how I recall if
>>108192958Youd probably need to rob a bank to afford all that
>>108192958whats the use caseusing local AI to produce several tb's of photorealistic loli porn?
>bought a 5060ti last year thinking it's a good card within my budget to have for now>after the parts apocalypse I'm probably stuck with it for 4 years>1440p60 gaming fugg help me cope. this is still a good card right? should I have blown my savings for a 5070 or 5070ti?
should i buy the XG27AQWMG or wait? i keep seeing people saying that amazing monitors are coming out later this year but i've never had an oled and im impatient. i don't really care about the refresh rates i just care about pretty pictures
>>108193087whats the use caseoled is best for gaming, if you just want hdr then you can use miniled too
>asus and asrock fry your cpus>gigabyte and msi have other issuesWhat am I even suppose to choose here?
>>108193107buy whatever it doesnt matterthe broken cpus are rare
>>108192712Minileds are not worth it for monitor use. Their Fast IPS are perfectly fine though.
>>108193053It's a perfectly solid card that will run most anything well. Reality is distorted here because people really want to justify their overpowered cards.
>>108193103Are there any oled monitors without outrageously unnecessary refresh rates?
>>108193185tvs?280hz is standard for low end 2025 pc monitorsthen 360hz-500hz is more common for new stuff
>>108193053Nigga, it's like the 6th strongest card on the market.The fuck are you bitching for.
>>108193103i guess hdr and picture quality are my main things, yeah. i just have a 3060 and a 3600, current monitor is a dell g2724d. mainly watch movies on my computer nowadays
>>108193207Guess its IPS for me
>>108193244KTC M27P6 is an option for hdrofc if you can pay more for oled its more betterer except for burn in and abl
>>108192514Guess the product
>>108193257>KTC M27P6Hate to say it but this exactly what im looking for, are any non-china manufacturers making something similar? Or is that the only option
>>108193053It's fine. You can upscale from 720p with DLSS and maintain decent image quality. Just be careful about FG if you have the 8 GB model
>>108193358https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1527824-REG/apple_32_pro_display_xdr.htmlhttps://www.displayninja.com/mini-led-monitor-list/theres a few miniled models
Do you kids really not understand that IPS is garbage for HDR because of the native contrast?
>>108192958> what do you think of my fantasyNothing, it's not worth contemplating.
>>108193358https://youtu.be/iW-HfmrFGZkhttps://youtu.be/JranOxeRXHc
>>108193185There's no downside to a 240 Hz monitor, or have you never used VRR before?
>>108193028> whats the use caseHe mentioned it:> my fantasy
>>108193372it dependsips has some upsides over va, pixel response and viewing angles and if you dont watch a lot of black background content where the blooming is most noticeable it can be fine?
I used the same IPS panel from 2009 to 2024.It was a good friend. I didn't mind the bloom because there wasn't anything better but VA/TN trash.
>>108192514I just built this.>Asrock B550 Phantom Gaming 4/ac>Ryzen 5 5500>32 GB DDR4 2600>RTX 4060>256 GB SSD (Linux) >240 GB SSD (Win 11 Pro)>SATA hot swap bay>old Falcon Northwest Talon case (pic rel)have but still need to to install>1 TB Seagate Pipeline HDD formatted as NTFS
>>108193433>DDR4 2600but why
>>108193436If I used 3200 I could only use 2 slots. This way I can add another 32 GB later. The whole thing cost like $600 not including the parts I already had laying around.I also built a Minecraft and homework computer for my kid's friend out of thrift store parts. I spent like $50 on it total, $30 of which was a GTX 1050. I even gave him a decent 1080p monitor that a neighbor gave me when she moved.
is an Odyssey G9 (G91SD) a good buy at $800 or am I retarded
First time PC builder here.If I do a really shitty job applying thermal paste will my PC explode?
>>108193567no. make sure to use enough, better too much than too little
https://youtu.be/CeOp6mFcRQc
>>108193567https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnV05lP4eXo
>>108193567No. Just remember to remove any plastic, it should be metal on metal with paste in-between.
>>108192523>If you can afford an $900 GPU, you can afford $150 in RGB fans.
If I have 100% CPU usage and 100% GPU usage on a game, is it worth to only upgrade the GPU?I want to go from RTX 3090 to RTX 5070ti.CPU is 5600x and I play at 2k resolution.Like good plan or will it be something like 100% CPU usage and ~20% GPU usage?
Anons, I'm running 7900x, 64gb ram, no gpu, 1440p 240 hz monitor and 4k 60hz monitor. No gpu. I'm running a Windows vm and it's quite slow. Will it get fixed if I buy an old garbage gpu? Rx530? I want amd, low power because Linux and I'm not gaming or running any models on 16gb VRAM.
>>108193653Ignore all CPU usage measurements for games because of how they are programmed. Only look at GPU usage. If it's under 98%, you have a CPU or data transfer bottleneck.This isn't a huge issue if you're already hitting your desired frame rate.But if both are maxed out, I would say that you need to upgrade both. Keep in mind, some games simply aren't threaded well, so always lean on upgrading the GPU.
>>108193653CPU is used in some cases like swapping vram for textures. If you get more vram then it might reduce CPU usage as well. Even if it doesn't, you'll still get more frames rendered from a better GPU.
>>108193479Nice. I skipped DDR4 so I'm clueless on its limitations. I scored a prebuilt from work, HP, which had 2x 3200 16gb in it - same timings but mismatched as one was branded sk hynix and the other SamsungApparently it held up under 2 passes of memtest but I didn't want to stress it furtherIt has a 14400 but if I didn't already have a new DDR5 system before I got the DDR4 recently from work I would've tried to scramble to find a mobo and PSU and transplant the RAM and CPU to that for a nice backup buildFor now I'll use it as a HTPC
Oh and for old DDR3 systems like Intel 4790k should you disable hyper threading??
Help me out, niggies. ROG STRIX, Aorus Elite, or Tomahawk? All X870.
>>108193810aorus elite for white
>>108192523>>108193650>RGB>Rainbow gay brownpeople.
>>108193812What if I don't get the white though?
>>108193653CPU will pretty much never be more important than your GPU for games. The 3090 is still good but you will definitely see improvements switching over to the 5070.>>108193787DDR4 can be mixed with very little issue. It might not max out its speed but its nothing like DDR5 in that regard. Some CPUs actually run a bit better with all 4 slots used.
>>108192546>just robbed my local drug dealerYou should invest in home security and depending on the dealer network a new identity and a plane ticket
>>108193871He means he stole money from his mom when she was hitting the pipe.
>>108193653what gaem
>>108192768do you imagine he uses all the hardware in that room everyday?
>get 5070ti>also get 9070xt because who's going to stop me?Gonna make a 9850x3d build, but my current is 5900x. Which card should I put into which?
>>108194005MHWilds, it's like 100% on both CPU & GPU.I use High Quality texture pack and RT off with some tweaks (like Shadows : Low). It's Wilds, I should just deal with it tho. It still runs at 57-67 fps at 1440p. >>108194073What games do you play? Resolution?Unironically put 5070ti with 5900x and please post some Framerate benchmark (like CPU/GPU usage and fps) for MHWilds, Granblue Relink and something like Tekken 8.If you don't play these games, use what you have please.
>>1081940735090.
>>108194088>What games do you play?A lot.>>108194088>Resolution?1440p>>108194088>Framerate benchmark (like CPU/GPU usage and fps) for MHWilds, Granblue Relink and something like Tekken 8.I only have Wilds out of that bunch. I tried that earlier today with my 3070 and it was running better than at launch. Are you interested in benchmarks for those games with an older CPU and using the 5070ti? I can maybe give it a try when I get around to it. Though I just realized it's an older PSU without all the "native" cables for something like the 5070ti. Will it be all right? New PC with the 9850x3d will have a 3.1 PSU.>>108194098Too rich for my blood.
>>108194088yeah your CPU is on a weaker side for the game, but they added some settings you can disable to make it load CPU less. Can't comment on the GPU side, I am at 4k with 5080 in Wilds and I still prefer to enable framegen with DLAA(downscaling AA).High res texture pack kinda sucks in wilds, did you try disabling it and switching to high?
>>108193214prolly a retard who puts Ultra on everything and now is buttblasted he will *GASP* fiddle with graphical settings for like 10 mins.Then again every losers is waiting for the indianmaxx coded gta6 (every subconsciously agrees that it will run like shit after the news of layouts and strikes over work hours/wages)
>>108194213It sounds like they want it to run on the switch 2 and honestly it runs so much better after the feb patch I think they might pull it off. Something to keep in mind if that's a game you intend to play a lot of/build a system around.
Could anyone recommend me an upgrade to my current gpu? (rtx 3070)The possible upgrades I had in mind were:Nvidia: brand new 5060 (either base or Ti)Amd: rx 6900 xt or 7900 (either gre or xt). Both second hand.Intel: Arc B580.I game at 1080p. My current build is Ryzen 5 7600, RTX 3070, 32GB RAM, 650w PSU. I hope I didn't miss anything.
Celestial status?
>>108194275your 3070 is surely better than the b580.
>>108192637>>108192613The places i looked at say its better than the 5070 and just a bit worse than the 5070ti, why are both worse than the 7900xtx and then its all nividia cards again
>>108192637just like how the 5700xt was the poverty version of the 2070 super
>>108194294Don't overly indulge the nvidia shill. When you do that, you just help Malaysians have even MORE babies.
>>108194275You could probably just keep the 3070. But otherwise I think the 7900xt beats the 5060ti in raw performance. DLSS might make the 5060ti jump ahead but I can't remember. It might be easiest to go with what's the cheapest between the two. Though I'm wary of second hand GPUs as well.
>>108194307>nvidia shill>Malaysians have even MORE babiesyour gonna have to explain more than that chief
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gu_KWvdGQj8we need to get this technology on pc monitors, I don't to buy an oled because I don't use the monitor only to play games and watch tv, I'll not pay for that stupid burn in technology, so miniled improvements are very welcomelg also has the the new microrbg ips, I'm hoping to see good monitors with it soon
>>108194322Never trust anybody you can't stab.
>>1081942755060ti is the best choice with your specs at 1080p imo.>>108194213>>108194245>It sounds like they want it to run on the switch 2Yeah, that's why we got these 3 optimizations waves.Without High res Textures pack, it should run at a solid 75-80 fps, I was just fucking around with the pack considering that they ''fixed'' it.>Are you interested in benchmarks for those games with an older CPU and using the 5070ti?Yes but it's okay, I found what I wanted.
>>108194275Just keep the 3070, desu.If you really must upgrade, at least wait until prices come down a little, or you can snipe a particularly good deal.5070Ti would be your best bet.
>>108194294Most reviews completely ignore tensor cores for whatever reason.
>>1081942757800x3d + 9070xt are the go to upgrade for your build, depending on the gpu price, because I heard it's going up (I bought mine for $580)
>>108194275>>108194394oh, I didn't see you're at 1080p, then the upgrade that makes the most sense is actually the cpu, you don't need to change the gpu unless you decide to move to 1440p (you should)
>CPU ordered but delivery service won't ship over weekendsgive it to me NOW
>>108194394except it's a 9070xt, that's just living life on hard mode with no benefits at all
>>108194374>>Are you interested in benchmarks for those games with an older CPU and using the 5070ti?>Yes but it's okay, I found what I wanted.Is that so? All right then. Might still give it a try. Been thinking of making the 9850x3d my Linux machine, so might stuff the 5070ti into my 5900x.
>>108194414keep your brandfagging to yourself
Can I build a better value pc than this? https://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/Daily-Deal-AMD-5070-TI
>>108194394Zero reason to get a 9070XT after the price hikes and DLSS4.5.
>>108194429whats the price it's at right now
>>108192795I think the best thing is that 6+6 will go the way of the dodo. Wonder if this means there will be a class 500 segmentation, so the six core will be an 11500, so the 11600 will now be an eight core segment.
>>108194439>so the six core will be an 11500, so the 11600 will now be an eight core segmentthat will be too jewish in the face of 52-core competition from intel
>>108193810I like my x870e tomahawk, only lights on it are from the debugging screen.
>>108194439it would be retarded to sell a 6+6 when you can get 12 cores in a single ccd
zen 6 is an easy skip, why would you buy it when we know zen 7 comes with even more cores?
>>108194454why not buy both?
>>108194418>mental gymnastics to justify being poor
>this jeet stays here all day pretending he's rich
>>108194477because it's a waste of money
I really can't imagine needing more than my 9950x3d
I wonder how bad the companies making PC components that don't have any stake in the high end datacenter market are shitting themselves.
>>108194588they are all shitting themselves, specially the ones that sell prebuilts, but I think everyone secretly believes openai will go bust and ram prices will normalize afterwards
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-s-Panther-Lake-chips-with-powerful-iGPUs-are-perfect-for-gaming-handhelds.1229742.0.htmlThe other manufacturers that previously only offered AMD based handhelds will have to offer an Intel version to stay competitive in 2026. Otherwise, the price would have to be noticeably lower, because AMD's current chips simply cannot keep up with Panther Lake.AYYMDEAD IS FINISHED & BANKRUPTVALVE BET ON THE WRONG SoC & iGPU AND LOST
>>108193810Earlier x870 boards of ASUS had the retarded q release slim. It was revised but the last time I checked it wasn't available in the EU at least.
>>108194588it is still too early for them to feel anything - it's been only a couple months and started at the beginning of new fiscal year. end of 2026 - that is when revenue numbers will land and shit will hit the fan.if this will go for a whole year or more - a lot of those companies will just close consumer business and will be forced to either adopt to enterprise-only or to sell their business.things are fucking grim at this point, i would expect CPUs to be next, and probably even within a few months from now.
RX 7600 8GB or RX 6700 XT 12 GB ? Does using any of those on a PCIE3 motherboard affect its performance too much? Pairing it with a 12400F.
Thinking of getting this. Doesn't seem too bad of a deal, right? I already got the RAM so don't need that.
>>108194708>buying AYYMDEAD with no AI upscaling and MFGNGMI
>>1081947086700 xt
>>108194712kill yourself nigger
Even AYYMDEAD shills can't defend the shit drivers
>>108194709All of the Newegg bundles where the SSD isn't included for free are ripoffs, even by current standards. Avoid them unless you absolutely need it. $280 for a 1TB SSD is beyond highway robbery; you can literally buy a 1TB drive for $140-$180 right now, the T500 is a better drive than the SN850X and is $166, and that's current MSRP/post-price hike price. Look for bundles with RAM as those are typically more realistically priced (by current price standards).
>>108194706AMD are planning to reduce consumer CPU production as they are predicting a contraction in that market.
>>108194708PCI-e 3.0 only becomes a real bottleneck when you max out your VRAM usage, don't get the 8GB card imo
>>108194747
>>108194706At a ballpark I see the AI shenanigans going on for another year or two. But yeah just a couple of bad quarters is good enough to kill a lot of consumer facing brands.If I'm going to guess I'd say either they scale back the PC component side, and focus on stuff that probably will sell - peripherals, accessories, etc.
I think people are dooming too much. PCs will still be around and... reasonably affordable just we'll have a backslide on the standard specs.Average PC is likely going to be 8/6 Core, 16GB of RAM, 8-12GB GPU, 512-1tb of storage and well... thats fine for 90% people, let's be real. At worst more people will drop the GPU from builds and slum it on integrated graphics to save up for a decent graphics card.
Bought a slightly sketchy Chinese 360mm CLC (Thermalright Frozen Prism) for C$70.Thanks to the size for the first time I first started using computers in 2000, I do not have an optical drive in my computer. End of an era.
>>108194895There will be a return to normal and those who sincerely believe it's a conspiracy to kill personal computing are retarded but we're still in for maybe the worst years ever for consumer electronics. US financial elites desperately need an industrial revolution to save their fading hegemon and they've still got so much debt to throw at the AGI delusion before reality kicks in.
>>108194909there's nothing sketchy about thermalright you prehistoric monkey
>>108194933The new normal will still be substantially higher than what we think of as normal now. They're going to set the new msrp at the hiked up prices they were selling at quickly, like $300 for 32gb ram and $180 for 1TB ssds. The days of going back to >$200 64gb ram is far gone.
>>108194935whatever you say, Chang
>>108192514New captcha, new autoban. No wonder this website is fucking dead
Is there any reason I would lose performance on a Ryzen 5 9600x if I go with an A620A motherboard over a B650/850 to save a couple of bucks?
>>108194945Absolutely not, the DRAM market is too competitive to resist market forces without price fixing (which is not possible right now with CXMT threatening the big 3). It's not like the GPU market where Nvidia dictates the pace because nobody wants Radeon, a Samsung chip is functionally identical to a Micron chip and if one manufacturer moves, other have to follow.
>>108193354wow, is it perchance a "2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 5.0 X2 NVME Solid State Drive.png"
>>1081951041. It's a generation behind B850.2. Aside from the specs determining what features are provided, bottom barrel chipset boards almost always have poor component cooling. Motherboards do die just like any other item and running hot makes it happen faster.
>>108192642Can you get a good oled for under $500?
>>108195407>Motherboards do die just like any other item and running hot makes it happen faster.In theory, I doubt anyone has real stats.It's damning to me that the cheapest mobo has a 3 year warranty, while the most expensive often has the exact same.Meanwhile progressively higher quality PSUs get progressively higher warranties.
>R5 9600x>RTX 4070 Super>B850 Aorus Elite Wifi7 mobo>32gb ddr5 cl30 6000mt/s rams>2tb samsung 990 pro nvme m.2 ssd I can't believe this will be my last PC build for another decade, and I'm stuck with this build that is less powerful than a base PS5.
>>108195678A PS5 is like a 2070 super.
>>108195678Anon, I've played games on a PS5 before and games running on my 6700xt 5600x computer still look better than on the PS5. You'll be fine.
>>108195678Reminder that only unoptimized FOMO trash comes out nowadays. Rarely do you get a non-UE5 game - and if it isn't it's usually hopeful it will perform well.Embrace older games as its cultural rot is what we should be worried about.
>>108195961Besides there are plenty of decent newer games outside the big stuff, just need to filter a little with your own preferences, recommendations and reviews.
Can someone explain how I'm supposed to get the GPU installed?The PCIe does does even look like the slot it's supposed to go in to.
>>108196001The GPU part looks totally different.
>>108196001thats entirely normal anon, the rear panel of the case should be your guide to steer the gpu in, make sure you take off the rubber cover of the pcie slot on your gpu though.Don't be afraid to watch pc assembly guides if you're nervous, jayz2cents and linus tech tips make decent ones.
>>108196015you need to snap off the plastic segment and they should fit together, a quick horizontal movement should do it.
>>108196015Gotta take off the little black condom. It's there for protection during shipping.
>>108196025>>108196032Oh, I'm retarded. Thank you.
>>108196016funny thing is lots of guides don't say take that thing off the gpu or say it'll even be there because so many guides don't use new fresh unboxed parts just the old shit they have in their inventories already it never occurred to me before but I guess that could confuse a first timer lol
>>108192514there's no shortage of ram
>>108196177they could sell all of that to 1 AI startup right now
My PSU motherboard cable is not long enough to reach the plug it's supposed to go into. Am I missing something or do I need to order a new cable?
>>108196256Never mind. That's the CPU power slot I was trying to get to.
>>108196256dude it fitsthat's meshify 3 rightjust put in the side slot it's probably tight because of that stupid cover they put on it but I think you can take that off
>>1081961775600 CL what?
>>108196284CL fun
>>108196284at this point, people buying new pcs don't care, it doesnt matter.Frankly the differences between high speed and low speed are not that big anyway at the ddr5 level. I wouldn't sully MY pc with that trash though.
Should the CPU cables really bend that much?I don't think I have any cable management skills.
>>108194454> when we know> zen 7 comes with even more coresWe don't know what happens in the future.People believed there would be 5070ti/80 "Supers". Where are they?
>>108196332It's probably fine. It's not moving, so tighter bends are less of an issue.That bend likely doesn't need to be that tight though by having the 180, if even necessary, down in the power supply basement.
>>108196332as long as the connection itself is flush and plugged in properly you will be fine.
a friend has an old i3 or i5 with a gtx 1060-3GB.I'm looking for something <$300 for them to upgrade to.pretty much any 8GB card would be insanely more powerful than it, right?
>>108196360>>108196362Thanks. Just to be sure, though. I twisted the cables around the back of the case more so there was no torque on the sockets.
I don't understand how these expansion slot covers are meant to be secured. They still rattle and aren't held evenly by the thumbscrew, it's like they barely hold on.
>>108196380Just steal a 5090 from Best buy.
>>108193107Sapphire(Or Biostar, kek)
>>108196387we do live in CA, they don't enforce theft here, but unfortunately we're white.I guess I could rip some clothes and roll around in the dirt before going in so they think I'm homeless.
>>108196381Nice, looks good anon.>>108196380Yes. I would generally say go with intel for gpus on the low end, but you're going to run into CPU overhead issues with an old i3 or i5.Probably just get RX 9060, and when they can upgrade their CPU to something modern, they can get everything out of the GPU.Basically anything modern is probably going to run into a CPU bottleneck, but Intel GPUs are going to be the most impacted.>>108196384Pic of how they're secured?
>>108196422intel might be too much of a tinkerer card for her. I don't want to do tech support after installing it. is intel stable with dota2, deadlock, vulkan?
>>108192725>chinesium product shillingYou're right, I should have bought a used noctua or be quiet cpu cooler instead of thermalright and its heatsink optimized solely for its annoying fans and fan setup. I bought a Wacom instead of a chinesium tablet for this reason.
Do I need to worry about whatever this is on the GPU?
>>1081963805050.Intel (unstable, large CPU overhead).RX 580, 6600, 7600 (no FSR 4 support).looks like the <$300 market for new cards on PCPartPicker. used cards are fucking miserable to filter through because everybody is overpricing their shit like some corporation is going to buy their dogshit hardware for a datacenter.
>>108196460>he's in P modeoh no no no
>>108196332i'd probably rework the one on the right, otherwise its okay..>>108196381much better>>108196384it might be a thumbscrew, but you're still supposed to use a screwdriver to screw them in properly anon.>>108196460leave it on P and never touch it again imo.
>>108196422>Pic of how they're secured?Thumbscrews, I could be doing it wrong or using the wrong ones though since they don't like to stay secured unless I use a screwdriver which shouldn't be necessary. I forgot to take a photo of them in their stock configuration.
>>108196332>>108196381You're doing good just don't force stuffSlow and steadyYouTube how tos for monkey see monkey do if you think you're doing it wrongAlso look up other builds on pcpartpicker to compare or get ideasDon't let others shame you practice makes perfect
>>108196455had no issues with my thermalright peerless assassin 120 se on my 7800x3d, but I bought it when it was the model being shilled, they changed it within a few months of all the techtubers shilling it.
>>108196454>now
>>108196452That too, but I was already recommending against intel due to the driver overhead issues.Even if you're willing to deal with the driver stability problems, there's still overhead issues with slower CPUs, even though that's been somewhat mitigated.Just get a low end modern AMD card. Better value than the low end nvidia cards.Not sure if something like this is less that 300 in your country. I think US prices are often lower.9060 non-XT would also work well.
>>108196384>They still rattle and aren't held evenly by the thumbscrew, it's like they barely hold on.yeah that's fractal's paper thin sheet metal for youyoutubers still love em though
>>108196505Try to make a thread of it. See what happen.
>>108196505Not him but Now it truly is.
>>108196495Did you buy them separately or did the come with the case?The opposite end to the thumbscrews should fit into the slot in the case, but from your pic they look too short.
>>108196460one is for performance the other is for experiments
>>108196495the end of them is supposed to slot into the rear of the case, you haven't aligned that one in the middle
Which is safer to use, the 12v to 3 VGA adapter that game with the GPU or the normal 12v cable that came with the PSU?
>>108196495Fractal has some wonky QA. Fill out an RMA request. I'm about to do the same and I'll subtly shame them with a poor review on Newegg if they don't comply. Seems like whoever is packaging parts for them at the end stage are really dropping the ball.
>>108196539The one that came with the PSU, but all of them have a chance to fail. That connector is cursed.
>>108196546Figures. Thank you.
>>108196539they're both equally shit
>>108196381as a protip: i just buy extension cables when building a new PC now. if you've already dropped 1k+ on a new PC you may as well spend another $30 on some decent looking braided nylon cables, or whatever. that way you can just fish them through to the back and do all your connections behind the tray with plenty of slack(though the way they are now is totally fine)
>>108196554No worries anon. Might even be worth getting something like this?https://www.thermal-grizzly.com/en/wireview-gpu-pro/s-tg-wv-p-h1nI decided to sidestep the issue with my new GPU. Just got an AMD card that takes 3 of the standard 8 pin connectors.
>>108196460Always stay in pussy mode and never go queer mode
PC building is a pain in the ass, holy shit. It feels like I am going to break the motherboard trying to get the PSU cable out, and u can't out the 12v connection in for the GPU without taking the PSU out of the case.
>>108196603ahem, its Pimp mode and Queer mode. Always be a pimp.
Am I gonna be annoyed in 2 years If I get a 5070ti? Its been a while since I upgraded and have no idea how long it takes before cards start struggling with newer releases.
Is using twist ties to secure your GPU good enough? I can't get the screws to fit back in.
What's up with AM6? I know it's expected within the next few years but is it getting pushed back because of hardware shortages?
>>108196749no. most gaymers are on 3060s and 4060s and the 5070ti is overpowered in all metrics by comparison
>>108196751if your gpu is so misaligned that the screws are impossible to insert then I doubt your monitors getting signal
>>108196751You should probably figure out why the screws aren't going in instead.If you absolutely can't use the screws, you could probably get away with zip ties and an anti-sag bracket.Don't use twist ties, especially not alone. This is how you speed run GPU sag.
>>108196777So you say, but the GPU really only fits into the PCIe slot one way. I think my case is just fucked.
>>108196789The mount is about as flush to the case bracket as it can get. It just doesn't want to line up for the screw holes.
>>108196796Try removing the spacer below. Looks like it might be interfering with the GPU's bracket.
>>108196380which card would /pcbg/ buy?these are the cheapest listed at the moment of each model. use case is 1080p 60hz, dota 2 primarily, and extremely infrequently other random games.
>>108196822all 8GB>5050: $260>5060: $330>5060 ti: $380>9060 xt: $310I'm leaning towards recommending the 5050 unless they want to spend the extra $50 for the 9060 xt and ignoring the 5060's.
>>108196812what if the mobo itself is installed wronglike theres a a used condom between it and the case, pushing the gpu out of alignment
>>108196822>60hzget the cheapest one and use the rest of the money on a 144hz monitor
>>1081968229060 xt with 16 gb, which you don't have listed.Of those that you listed.9060 xt, is the best value.5060 Ti has about 10% more perf, but costs 25ish% more.
>>108196862those are $440+. way out of budget.
>>108196796reseat your gpu properly
>>108196749>>108196766And also, which model to buy? There's a ton of different ones. They vary in price but the cheaper ones are :Gigabyte Windforce OCGigabyte Eagle OC IceZotac Solid SFFZotac Solid Core OCMSI Ventus OCMSI shadow 3X ocTheres also a few palit, pny and inno3d models but I've never heard of those brands so not sure how they are.
>>108196812no it isn't push it fucking harder put it in correctly
>>108196812You need to push that card in a bit further.Meshify 3's release was delayed because of that PCIe slot issue, and it's not completely solved.https://gamersnexus.net/cases/new-best-fractal-meshify-3-case-review-thermal-benchmarks-noisehttps://www.reddit.com/r/FractalDesign/comments/1m9dlwl/meshify_3_issue/
>>108196817This worked. But now I can't get the third bracket on the back to fit.
>>108196870Fair enough, I didn't realize how much the price changed since I bought my GPU.
>>108196896You mean the spacer? I wouldn't worry too much about that. You can buy some new spacers online that won't block the GPU if you care.
>>108195226CXMT's production is barely even going to be able to feed their domestic market, don't even dream of Chinese ram saving the market
>>108196929its subsidized by chink government so why would they ever ship ram abroadto lose money?
Would it still be worth (panic) buying a HDD since there's a large chance the price may balloon up like ram and sdd?I can get a new 12tb one for 350 euro now (which is a lot desu, but Europe always had higher hard drive prices compared to the US)
>>108196882>>108196895I think the case is just ever so slightly bent. Because the media ports thing doesn't line up perfectly. I have all eight MoBo screws in correctly, it just doesn't line up right.
>>108196966It could be the case. I wrote off fractal cases a long time ago
the arse 'n' all
>>108196984>>108196913I got all the spacers to fit. I had to take them all out and put them in starting from the one closest to the GPU. But it fits. I really think the case is just bent.
Does you guys think that slightly different color pin is bent? It's a brand new MoBo.
>>108197025here are your options:1. put the gpu in properly.2. bend the gpu to the screws.3. bend the case to the gpu.4. return everything and buy a dell instead.
>>108196880PNY is literally the best brand out of that list, it's been around for like 40 years and is the only US brand left in the market
>>108197071The GPU is in properly.
>>108197034Maybe? But not really. Also, looking at the pin map, I think that's 33K? So, it's a ground anyway.
>>108196945that's exactly my meaning, people thinking that CMXT or the other Chinese ram company is going to save the prices are dreaming. CCP is bankrolling production so they can be independent from sanctions from the US cutting off the supply of chips. It's not to supply the world with affordable ram.
I hate this case so much. The top mounted AIO is putting a lot of pressure on the CPU power supply pins.
>>108197084Good to know, thank you.
>>108197105take the AIO out and shave the corner of that fan shroud a little
>got a couple of AM4 systems>main system with 5800X+7900XT>a built from spares rig wit a 2700X+3080>look at current prices of hardwareShould i consider upgrading the latter 2700X to a 5600X/ 5800XT, or try and find a decent priced 5800X3D and upgrade the main system instead?
>>108197112That feels so ghetto.
>>108197034i don't fuck about with the pins if it's a defect that is that visible like that I would have boxed it up and returned it even if it worked perfectly.
>>108197125You won't even fucking see it, it's in the back of the case. Be honest, the reason you don't want to do it is because you don't have any tools and somebody else put your PC together.Just live with it then, I guess. Or buy a new AIO with smaller dimensions. Or a different case. Spend money. Consoom. Because you're afraid of a little minor fitting work.
>>108197105I seriously don't know how GN gave Meshify 3 best case. I've been saying that shit sucked. Only having space for a 280mm in a case that big was a dead giveaway for all sorts of size issues with it. It's not a novice friendly case at all. This was the only guy I really saw say how bad building in it is. https://youtu.be/4tWLMwskOB8?si=CPR9wgfU29VGlA4R&t=227
>>108197105
>>108196381> unsleeved cables, lint
>>108197174He was probably paid to do so.
>>108197165Do you see how the top of the case looks here >>108197105It's about a half inch gap. I'd literally have to cut into the fans. It's not "shaving off a little"
>>108197174because he ranks cases based on how perforated they are for better airflow for better cooling.I wonder how much these high airflow cases are affected by a higher ambient room temperature, like in summer.
>>108197189What is this and where can I get some?
>>108197213reverse image search says it is an "asiahorse" extension cable
>>108197213search for hydrus cables, techsource is always them
>>108197219>>108197230Ooh they're not expensive eitherI think I'll get some, thanks Anons
>>108197202I'm not saying it's going to be fully free and clear/not touching, just give it some relief where your cables aren't crimped 180°.
>>108197113It would be nothing short of a miracle if you found a working 5800x3d for anything less than $450.
>>108197105I have the same case with a LF3 280 AIO, the radiator isn't putting any pressure to the CPU power pins.MSI Carbon motherboard FYI.
>>108196384You could have bought a beQuiet! Nothing is rattling with a Silent Base 802. It's German engineered perfection.
>>108197256why are people buying high airflow cases for water cooled systems?
>>108197299The Meshify 3's top panel is a perforated mesh for AIOs.Air cool-oriented cases like the Torrent ship solid top panels for a reason.You just don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
Are there any case displays that use eink instead of something light emitting? I want something to monitor temps, but I hate distracting lights
is it worth making a tech related youtube channel where I do nothing but complain all the time? seems like a good hustle.
>>108197299It's just an AIO most AIOs are bought for aesthetics no matter how much people pretend they buy them for performance. Meshify is designed for 280mm AIOs anyway.
>>108197256>MSI Carbon motherboardI have the MSI tomahawk. Maybe that's the difference.
>>108197230>>108197219Any suggestions for these without RGB? Any way to disable?
>>108197342all you need is 5k subs for companies to start giving you free stuff to shill once you reach 10k you will never have to pay for any tech ever again
>>108194418I am using a 5700xt right now. AMD fucking blows man. The software is janky as hell, it keeps turning on user experience program whenever I tell it not to, driver updates constantly break games, FSR is never in any games and when it is it sucks hard balls compared to DLSS or even worse it's FSR2, there is nothing like reflex, it's version of shadowplay is way worse, games just like nvidia better as I've seen my friend with a very similar build to mine but a 2070 run games way better than I can, and I will never buy AMD again no matter how consumer friendly the prices seem to be. The real cost comes from how much it fucking annoys you to be on AMD. Also I remember when that shit launched and all the MSRP priced ones sold out in literally 20 minutes and then they were up to 1000 dollars. Fuck them
>>108197342you have to consider the marketno one needs any information these people have, whatever they know it impacts the audiences lives zeroso it has to appeal to some sort of deeper emotion and here its prob some sort of enjoyment of bad things happening to other people
>>108197342He's a poorfag. GN Steve literally had to send him money to buy a 5060.
>>108197268I like bequiet in terms of looks and build quality but I feel like they are over-engineered and they do get a little hot.
>>108197073How are they with warranty in the EU? Since I'm not in the US.
>>108193819anon gonna get in trouble for doxxing mods
>>108197359>no matter how consumer friendly the prices seem to beAMD was never consumer friendly with pricing. 15% difference is nothing when you look at what you're losing
>>108196583> i just buy extension cablesMore cable to stuff into the bowels of the case? I always try to keep cables as short as anyhow possible to facilitate access. The cables of the Pure Power 13M PSU are long enough even for large cases like the Silent Base 802 btw.
>>108197383nothing is free when it's from GN, he is a wolve in sheeps clothing.
>>108197349The 4+4-pin EPS power cables on that be Quiet PSU are overspecced at 16 AWG.It can safely deliver over 380W of power to the CPU, you don't have to worry about the bend or CPU power connection if it's fully seated.
>>108197025shoulda bought an antec flux pro like i did, its got a more rigid design and i had no trouble with the rear panels. Although there is a bend on the top-mounted aio, that makes the glass panel not quite snug, otherwise its good.>>108197034thats a worry anon, sometimes 1 pin is literally meaningless and doesnt actually transmit data (different cpus use different combinations of pins on the board), but you can brick both your cpu and the motherboard itself by using it in the worst-case.
>>108197432Steve is a breath away from naming the jew. Let him cook.
>>108197359I've been using AMD gpus for years and have never had a problem. Maybe you just smell or something.
>>108192523>DISCUSS.png>>108193650>>108193819I cannot for the life of me understand why people want to rice their stuff with glowie fans and lights, and the glass fishtank fad cannot die soon enough. Custom paint jobs and monitoring displays for system stats may also be a signs of gayness.>pure performance for me, but you do you, /pcbg/.
>>108197359Radeon's jeet software is just never ever going to be worth using every single day of your life
>>108197450>it's fine i just don't get the superior upscaler>it's fine i just don't get the superior framegen>it's fine i just don't get the superior drivers>it's fine i just like 30 fps if i want raytracing>it's fine that some games run worse on amd or have serious issues + crashing (especially older titles)I mean c'mon man. Clearly I can still play games and have had fun with my PC too, but you can't just be blind to the literal facts. Nvidia just works better for games and it fucking blows that their cards are extremely expensive. But I'd rather save a few hundred more dollars and get less headache.
>>108197489if anything amd users should be upset at how slow amd is at reaching parity with nvidia features
>>108197479i did a glass panel build with sl120s and i feel as gay as i knew i would about itthe next one will be back to a black box
>>108197489>(especially older titles)doesn't get mentioned enough how absolute trash amd still is on older games
>>108197489Nvidia vs AMD issues for gaming feels like the Windows vs Linux debate.>linux is fine to run games on guys, wine is much better now, a lot of steam games have native linux support, come on guys it's not THAT bad, works just for me!Like lmao okay.
>>108197346>AIOs are bought for aesthetics no matter how much people pretend they buy them for performance.Even relatively affordable AIO like the LF3 280 keeps the CPU significantly cool enough to stably run more aggressive undervolts.Whether that matters to (you) is a different story.
>>108197549I have never had a problem playing games on linux
My previous desktop PC has been sitting unpowered for 7 years. It's extremely dusty, but otherwise undamaged. Should all components work if I power it up? Obviously the data on SSD will be corrupted.
>>108197479are you dissing paintjobs on pc cases? you some kinda turdskin?
Someone give me your best build as cheap as possible with a 5070ti and a 7800/9800x3d
>>108197479I wish there was an in between ground where my PC was illuminated by just a couple of small lights that provide interior light without being some gay pride rainbow.
>>1081975905070ti is 50% over msrp so nows not a great time
>>108197489I think if you play indie or older games, AMD is fine. It's kinda the sweet spot right now, as all newer games are shit.
>>108197590Look for bundle deals that include any DDR5 memory and carry over your existing storage drives.>any DDR5 memoryYes, beggars can't be choosers.
>>108197590just wait for Highguard's studio to close down and get a free pc and some office chairs
>>108197523? since when? the only restrictions i've ever experienced with old games is because they're not compatible with the OS, or they're 32bit and there's the 2gig ram limitations, which can be partially overcome with a free app i can't remember the name of, i used to use it to modify supreme commander 2.Its also pretty ironic that you're accusing AMD of not supporting old games, when Njudea literally removed support for DX9 in their latest gpus.
Maybe I'm going schizo, but I feel like the fans on my Asus Prime 5070ti started to squeak a bit sometimes at low load. The fan curve is set to 40% minimum in afterburner. I initially thought it might be some other fan, but when I turned all others off in fan control the sound was still there, and went away after I turned off gpu fans too.Anyone experienced this? Any fixes>
>>108197251lmao fuck that. I'd rather get a cheap 5600X for like 140$ and flip the 2nd system
>>108197634Sounds like ... COIL WHINEanon
>>108197634fans fail. Bad karma for buying ASUS when you had other options too.
This case has been a fucking nightmare. The top cover refuses to click into place.
Trying to upgrade this>MSI b450-a pro max>3700x>5700xt>16gb of ddr4 ram>some 800 watt psu i think, maybe 850>some crappy cheap fan cooler>a case where the tempered glass panel shattered and i never replaced itHonestly I'm thinking of just ditching the entire thing and making something new and only saving my drives. Would there be any conflicts with my current nvme and a newer am5 motherboard?
>>108197664did you buy an AIO without checking if it would fit the case? Meshify 3 XL or another brand imo.
>>108197608How would one even get something like that without knowing people in that business? I mean it's not like the offices just put that shit up on facebook marketplace, they offload them wholesale onto some poor retail schmuck who then just knocks 100 dollars off the price of whatever is on the market and calls it refurbished no matter how much it was used.
>>108197642But it happens specifically when idling, not while gaming and such. And it sounds different too. It's not this constant buzzing noise, just a couple of squeaks.>>108197657It's been only like half a year too :( and it was the cheapest option except for maybe Geforce Windforce.
>>108197664You just have to push it in with a bit more force.
>>108197717That was a lot more force than I thought it would need. Thanks.
>>108197634FYI, you disable the video card's zero RPM cooling feature if you set manual GPU fan curves on Afterburner.It's enforced by NVIDIA not the AIBs to prevent retards from cooking their GPU with inadequate cooling.I'd undervolt the GPU to have it run more power efficiently, and switch to the quiet fan BIOS if you need further adjustments.
>>108197691Worst case, you can find replacement fans online. Better than dealing with RMA over a fan.This link says the fans are compatible with Radeon ASUS Prime, but I doubt these are electrically different to the fans on the RTX ASUS Prime cards.https://www.gpufanreplacement.com/products/asus-prime-radeon-rx-9070-and-9070-xt-gpu-fan-and-shroud-replacementYou usually do not have to remove the GPU heat sink to replace these fans.
>>108197691>It's not this constant buzzing noise, just a couple of squeaks.Coil whine is not always the constant sound of (for example) an old CRT flyback transformer, anon. The coils will whine on and off and at different frequencies. Mine do this and *only* when my GPU is overclocked.Unfortunately you cannot upload sounds on /pcbg/ for anons to analyze.
OMG AMERIBROS WE GONNA GET CHEAPER NOCTUA FANS XDDD
>>108197571Anyone knows?
>>108197664tool-less design with flimsy ass clip on panels - another feature that youtubers who build 10 PCs a month love but actually sucks with day to day usengl seeing your meshify 3 build is all the reasons I knew it would be a pain in the ass
I have an intel nuc7 i5 but the m.2 SSD and one ram stick shat the bed.Now I was looking to replace the ram and SSD but what the fuck is going on with the prices??? Are there any cheap sticks around still or is this market completely ruined?
>>108197900Take the PC outside and clean out the dust with an air blower, everything should work fine but the CPU & GPU might need repasting (and repadding for the video card's VRAM & VRMs).
Gol dang fukken 4chan was shitting the bed while I was baking your new thread.>>108197896>>108197896>>108197896Good luck, anons, you're going to need it.
>>108197907>is this market completely ruinedCompletely, irreversibly ruined for the short term (next 2~3 years).Prices won't ever return to the lows of 2023~2024.
>>108197907welcome brother enjoy your stay you're here forever
>>108197634I think I might have found the culprit and if so, it'd be a layer 8 issue. It must have happened when I moved the PC to clean underneath it, and I haven't noticed it, but the little anti-sag handle must have moved a bit and might have touched one of the fans a little bit. I moved it back, and so far no squeaking, but only a couple minutes sample size.
>>108197938>Prices won't ever return to the lows of>>108197949shut UP noobs.
>>108197384> they are over-engineeredI wish my ProArt PA602 had come with vibration cancelling neoprene on the panels. I had to customize this, not so with my Silent Base 802.I wish it had the superior drive cages of the beQuiet that come with noise decoupling rubbers.I wish it was a little more "over-enginereed" in such details.I wish however my beQuiet case had wheels (or the option to install standard office chair casters) like my ProArt has because it hardly moves with it's heavy duty metal sheets, 2kg of GPU, a fat ALF 360 rad and three HDDs. I can't stress enough how much of a relief wheels on a large heavy case are. They had top priority when I was looking for a large case with support for an ALF3 420.> they do get a little hotThe Silent Base 802 doesn't get hot if you install 3x140 fans in front and 3x140 fans in top or have a 360 rad in top (this is how I use it in the hot climate of South Portugal and case temps couldn't be better). I have no idea how hot it would get if I ran it with just the few pre-installed fans it came with. 6 fans of course move a lot more air than just 2 fans.
>>108197954>a layer 8 issuekek anon is a ham-fisted retard
>>108197962retarded faggot really went back to 1907 LMAO you fucking moron IT'S FUCKED FOREVER
>>108197923Alright, thanks anon.
>>108197981You might have a tough time removing the CPU cooler if the thermal paste has hardened.
>>108197670Unless you care about the performance difference between having a gen4 and gen5 drive, not really no the drives will work just fine. And if the system runs whatever you need i would recommend waiting for Zen6, or if it isn't enough just selling it as is before ram prices stabilize.
>>108197979i >>108197962 >>108197930 have been /pcbg/ for a very, very long time, you little faggot.>three grandkids now and another one on the way.>>108192523>Prices rise for everything. Anons keep bitching about it.
>>108198034>have been /pcbg/ for a very, very long time, you little faggot.And the prices keep getting worse and worse and worse and worse and worse and worse and worse and worse and worse and worse and worse and worse and worse and worse and worse and worse and worse and worse and worse and worse and worse and worse and worse and worse and worse and worse
>>108197562> a tiny ALF3 240 beats all air cooler monsters by a large margininb4 massive nawk tuah fanboy cope
>>108198096>a tiny ALF3 240 beats all air cooler monsters by a large marginA 360 is even better, and OFC the 420mm is the patricians choice. Airfaggots BTFO.
does a good off-white mATX case exist? they all seem to be either pitch black or pure white. why?
>>108198110I've got ALF3 PRO 420, and the pump is annoyingly loud.
>>108197299High airflow cases significantly improve the function of the radiator that is usually installed in top and has it's fans exhaust air.
>>108197751No? This curve definitely behaves differently from the stock so it is working. The way the card interprets it seems to not be exactly 45 though, there's some fuzziness to when it starts, which is desirable in any case.
>>108198148Because you didn't throttle it from 100% PWM ~2,800rpm to 75% ~2,100rpm.I too use an ALF3 PRO 420 and my pump is virtually inaudible. It also has a good chance to live longer than your pump.
>>108197105You could try, you know, not having it squeeze past the fans directly backwards. Have it curve out and around the heatsink towards the rear where there is clearly open space. It's not going to look bad when its all black and blends together.
>>108198148>I've got ALF3 PRO 420, and the pump is annoyingly loud.It's the same pump as the ALF 3 Pro 360, which I am running, and mine is dead silent running at a flat 50%. Are you under warranty? Arctic is pretty good at warranty support (maybe a bit slow to respond).
>>108198215I throttled it even lower. It's loud at anything above 40%>>108198224I got it in August, so probably?
>>108197390The warranty should be good in Europe as long as you buy it new from an authorized seller, according to their warranty page.
>>108198276>It's loud at anything above 40%Are you using the all-in-one cable or the breakout cable for pump/VRM/radiator fans?
>>108198276> It's loud at anything above 40%RMA! You obviously got a faulty pump. It should be inaudible.You made sure that the pump contains no air, right? The radiator is mounted above the pump, right? You are not trolling us, right?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbGomv195sk
>>108198276Shake your AIO, turn it sideways or every which way during operation. Pump noise at that low level is likely misidentified bubbling noises; some bubbles have becomes stuck in the pump. You could also just give it some time and see if it continues to make noise even after a long period of time and after heating up from some heavy use like a benchmark/testing tool.
>>108197664> The top cover refuses to click into place.Same happened here with my ProArt case when I installed a thick ALF3 420 in top. I had to saw off some bits of the two studs in the front of the cover so they would slide in. No problem that a small saw or Dremel couldn't solve in a minute and it doesn't impair the function or looks.
>>108198563Split, that odd ass curve is specifically for pump, vrm and radiators are smoother.>>108198576Not sure how I'm supposed to check if it contains no air, but it is above the pump, altho not super high above as it's a horizontal setup. Pic related is my highly artistic rendition.RMA sounds annoying as fuck.
>>108197593You can accomplish this if you have any skills at all. RBG strips, for example, can be trimmed.>>108198994You, anon, are an artiste.>RMA sounds annoying as fuckLet us know how it goes.
>>108198994> Not sure how I'm supposed to check if it contains no airJust watch the fucking jewtube and you learn it.
>>108197593Do a single cold cathode fluorescent tube. Those builds are tasteful.
