linux is good! it can do anything!let me make some musi-ack!
You don't need a computer to play the xylophone or the didgeridoo.
You've never heard of LMMS? Doesn't surprise me. You're a windows user
>>108335413eh, doesn't matter now. just use producer.ai
>>108335413https://www.audacityteam.org/download/linux/
inb4 that fag with his music usecase inquiry
>use FL 9 for music since 2010 or so>switch to Lunix in 2018 or soStill use FL 9 no problem in 2020s under Wine>FL9??? DUUUUDE YOU NEED TO UPDOOTNo.
Reaper runs flawlessly under Linux, both ways natively and with Wine
>>108335943Reaperposting is useless on a board with users that get filtered by one of the easiest and fastest captchas 4chins ever had.
>>108335943Yeah but 90% of useful third party VST don't run natively and pipewire-jack is the only way to get decent latency but it's an enormous pain in the ass it absolutely is fucking shit to use.
>>108335413A true artist doesn't need more.
>>108335965Milky on the frontpage!
best bait thread on the board right now
you should be OK with bitwig
>>108336490how
>>108335965wrong picture
>>108336490nah, 2 obvious
>>108335959yarbridge just works. https://github.com/robbert-vdh/yabridge>>108336874Bitwig is good but their yearly updoot fee is a deal breaker. It wouldn't be a big deal if they offered a lifetime license options that included all future upgrades.>>108337196I keep coming back to this. The only thing I really wish Renoise did was native multi track audio recording. But, hey, we can't have everything. Having the ability to create custom tools kind of makes up for that.All that said Reaper and Ardour both work perfectly fine and are free. There's literally no excuse to not be able to make killer tracks on Linux.
i just whistle a tune in rhythm with the hdd seek head
>>108335903Nobody listens to AI music besides indians and boomers.
>>108335959most plugins works on mac so I guess it's easy to get them work on linux, no?
>>108335933Smart. Did you at least give LMMS a try?
>>108337797Yes and I hated pretty much everything about it. It IS kinda usable and working but I don't know why you'd torture yourself voluntarily when other better alternatives exist.
>>108337815lol, it is a soup sandwich. Just curious if you suffered. To all artists in the thread: Will anyone share their work? Not trying to Dox anyone, just curious what music you create and what it sounds like. There are ways to share here anonymously, but I am not entitled to you being inconvenienced to satisfy my curiosity.
>>108335951>Oy vey pick the images with stars with ten points eight times without failing once to make a post or you're not WhiteHello, Pinoy.
>>108335413Works on my machine
>>108337856>To all artists in the thread: Will anyone share their work? Not trying to Dox anyone, just curious what music you create and what it sounds like. There are ways to share here anonymously, but I am not entitled to you being inconvenienced to satisfy my curiosity.Here's an old unreleased, unmixed/mastered track if you want to listen: https://litter.catbox.moe/jlps5cecqwn7xcif.mp3
>>108337604You've never listened to AI music, keep seething pussy https://suno.com/s/EliTDgRC5goWENR9
>>108337931Is it okay if I listen to it?
>>108337969I'll make an exception.
>>108337931Incredible sounds at 1:30, very nice. I am a little more chill(House), but this was just below my heart palpitating threshold so it was easily followed. Thank you very much for sharing it.
>>108335413Buy a MacBook, unironically. It runs macOS, which gives you the best of both words: a UNIX terminal for programming and ability to run all the professional software.
>>108339037>proprietary ass OS even proprietary ass hardwareGross, I'd rather run an airgapped VM with Windows 10 for my pro stuff and just transfer the exorted shit into Linux, fuck Macs.
>>108339037I can never get over how bad Finder is. Also homebrew sucks balls.
Use case?
someone recommended reaper and bitwig to me the other day, arent they paid/subscription only? i see they are on flathub
>>108337604kek just like ai videos on jewtube
>>108337236>yarbridge works>scroll down github>20+ known issuesnah
>>108339278bro get a job and use mac
>>108339278Reaper has an unlimited trial period so it's basically free. Even then the license is only like $60.Bitwig Studio is expensive and has a yearly upgrade fee, I'll give you that.
>He hasn't updatedngmi
>>108335413Reaper is pretty good.
>>108339037>which gives you the best of both words: a UNIX terminal for programmingthis is low key a sticking point for me.the thing is, i dont want UNIX. i want *Linux*. and with winshit, I get *Linux* in a terminal with filesystem interop.like, lowkey, as a lintard, i run winshit because i really just want default linux with all my apt get shit and whatnot. with macos, i sort of get neither the winshit universe of binaries, nor the carbon copy linux environment. i get a bespoke Mac app space, with a bespoke Mac unix-ish-kinda-maybe terminal.
>>108335413what the fuck is audacity doing there?
>>108339582That's a good point, but I don't like using solutions like WSL because to me, it implies that I need to install various terminal software both for native Windows and for the WSL environment (like Git, Neovim, CMake, potentially various language compilers) and to synchronize the configs (of both Neovim installations, for example) between them. So I would prefer to have a UNIX terminal natively even if it's not exactly like Linux. Regarding GUI programs, I really primarily care about various programs for "creative" work that usually doesn't run on Linux natively, but runs on Windows and macOS, so macOS tends to be able to run every GUI program I need/want.
>>108339725you have to change the way you think about it. the c:\mingw, c:\cygwin, c:\msys2, c:\program files\git, and wsl2 installs - no, this isn't dogshit smeared on your disk, no - these are beautiful flowers, each one blooming in the crack of a pavement, proudly rejecting the notion of any kind of organisation whatsoever. they grow whichever way they will, and its stunning and brave.
>>108339799Well I know it probably shouldn't really bother me ideally, but somehow it triggers my autism that I need to sync my Git config, for example, between WSL and native Windows, although that config rarely changes in the first place. I think an acceptable option would be to have everything installed in WSL only, but I don't remember at all why didn't go with that route. Perhaps I did try it and it turned out that's not viable and at least one thing needs to be installed in native Windows also? Don't remember
>>108335879 Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:46 pm
Try Ardour.
>>108335413nobody said linux can do anything, it doesnt get you laid, doesn't feed you ... retard
Let me guess.. you "NEED" more?
>>108340333Garage Band cucks you until you drop the $200 and buy Logic Pro X, so yes.
>>108335413I know, right? Isn't it amazing how well all of those run on Linux. I especially love how well Serrato runs on Linux too. I've been able to do a bunch of live gigs on Linux.
>>108336874Will this work for me if I'm too stupid to use anything but Ableton?Seriously, I don't get how anyone can manage to use FL or whatever.
Linux isn't a serious DAW choice because even a fucking Sound Blaster doesn't work on mainstream distros.
>>108340214>>108337815>he doesn't know about the nightly builds
>>108335413>let me make some musi-ack!bitwig, LMMS, Ardour=======================================Websites for finding Linux Native VSTs:=======================================https://kx.studio/Repositories:Pluginshttps://www.audiopluginsforfree.com/l...https://linuxdaw.org/https://www.kvraudio.com/plugins/the-...https://freevsts.com/tag/linux/==========================Amazing Plugins for Linux:==========================https://lsp-plug.in/https://tonelib.net/downloads.htmlhttps://vital.audio/https://u-he.com/products/======================Linux Musicians Forum:======================https://linuxmusicians.com/
>>108340588Sorry, I sleep at night.
>>108340510bitwig is made by people who were working on Ableton and its workflow is quite similar (but better)>>108337236>yearly updoot feeI use a version I found lying on a street almost 3 years ago and it works just finealthough if it had FL Studio perpetual license I wouldn't think twice before paying for it
>>108339411>Reaper has an unlimited trial period so it's basically free. thanks, do i need to give them any personal info, like daVinci that asks your email? how about plugins and such, usable ootb?
>>108341798nope. It's basically like WinRAR.
They have Bitwig, Renoise, Studio One, Reaper, Ardour, LMMS, Pure Data, VCV Rack, Audacity, Surge XT, and probably a bunch of other shit I can't think of. Plus, they have JACK, which lets you route audio between apps.
>>108335413skill issue logic is very good but everything else is the same
>>108335413Reaper is good.
>>108335965This.Milky tracker and csound work on my machine.
>>108335413Audacity 4 will save us don't worryBitwig's pretty good too not gonna lie
>>108335413Where is reaper?
what is the gimp for music production software?
>>108343609rosegarden
If you can't afford a mac to do actual work in then you're too poor to be a producer. Go flip some burgers instead until you can get out of whatever ghetto shithole you live in.
>>108335413>works>works>works>works but 3rd party plugins sometimes require work arounds>works>worksif the publishers provided more than .exe, the world would be better
>>108343750What's the point? AI can already reproduce daw music anyway. If you aren't playing an instrument and singing live there is no reason to even try making music. You're better off just prompting.
>>108343819It doesn't help that mainstream music production is so overly compressed, normalized, quantized, with vocal processing and a committee of 15 writers for each song that it has already sounded like an AI made it for the last 20 years. What has been done to country music since the 80s is an absolute travesty.
>>108335959A proper pipewire-jack setup is pied easy through the musnix flake
Literally how do you Ableton on Ubuntu? It's all I want.
>>108335413linux is good but it has many downsides, one of which is that it can't run any real DAW (or any real creative software for that matter)
>>108335413All of those work on Wine
>>108339037No one gives a fuck about Unix you dumb boomer lmao. People like Linux because it's faster and easier to use than Windows
>>108343996It probably runs via WINE, but if it's anything like FL support on WINE, MIDI devices may or may not work properly.
>>108337196as a poorfag i kinda liked radium but ever since i got a new laptop i hadn't been able to compile it; the aur makepkg is outdated it seems. When it works it was pretty nice, you can think of it better as a souped up/standardized sort of SunVox than anything else; it has normal LV2 and VST plugins but you can connect and arrange them similar to sunvox. It also has built in faust and puredata and variables in both can also be controlled directly by lines from the tracker.
>>108340409I love Mixxx and would still use it for gigs if it supported more decent new 4ch controllers. Had to get rid of my pioneer controller because of just wear and tear and I wasn't gonna risk another second hand one so i just went with a Prime+. Would go back if i can get a new controller because i have a bunch of cool custom filter chain presets for the filter knobs. I wish the Prime or DDJ's had more effects. I get that it won't have LV2 or maybe even VST but surely they could at least build some API and store so people could consoom more fx than the stock stuff? seems like a missed opportunity for them.
>>108337196as a zoomer who started with trackers for some reason and i cant escape renoise
>>108345375It's not perfect but it does just enough right to make you not really want to bother with other daws.
>>108337961>https://suno.com/s/EliTDgRC5goWENR9wow that's a lot better than i was set up for. i heard some things that were mildly funny but not very realistic or musically interesting but _this_ i can oddly empathize with (a machine, no less). Openly admitting to being a machine and pondering on just that existance makes any and all glitches part of that experience, like how a black singers bad grammar is recognized as part of his culture and identity.
>>108343819>Saw musicWhat the fuck did this retard mean by this?
>>108335903>>108337961>>108345498Half the appeal of listening to music is imagining what was going through the original artist's mind when they were making it, how they came up with the sounds, and what techniques, work flow and gear they used. That's all just basically an empty void with AI music. The only human factor is the prompt which is not really the same.
>>108345569uh, no. I just want a 4/4 120bpm with dionic triads in a major key.the most complex music is the gayer it is
>>108345547A **DAW** (Digital Audio Workstation) is basically a **computer program for making music**. Instead of needing real instruments and a band, you open a program like FL Studio or Ableton Live and build a song by clicking, dragging, and arranging sounds on the screen.You can drop in drum sounds, add piano notes, copy and paste parts, and the computer keeps everything perfectly on time.The problem is that a DAW makes music **too easy and too perfect**.When everything is made by clicking and snapping things to a grid, the music loses the **human feel**. Real musicians speed up a little, slow down a little, and make tiny mistakes that give music personality. A DAW erases most of that and replaces it with **perfect timing and recycled sounds**.It’s like the difference between:* a kid **drawing a picture by hand**, with messy lines and personality* a kid **dragging stickers onto a tablet**The sticker picture might look clean, but it feels **generic and lifeless**.That’s what DAW music often becomes:* **preset sounds*** **copy-paste loops*** **perfect but soulless timing**So instead of feeling like people playing music together, it often feels like **a computer assembling parts**.A DAW is just a tool, but when the tool does most of the work, the result usually sounds **polished but empty**.
>>108345618You mean diatonic? Let me guess you need more than I V iv IV in C? If taylor swift can make 25 versions of this then you don't need more.
>>108345569I agree with your overall sentiment but in the case of that song it still feels like there's still a decent illusion of someone to empathize with because it's so transparent about not being human to begin with. Literally a song about being an LLM by an LLM. >>108346157>taylor swiftback in my day admitting to listening to (((pop whore of the day))) would get you branded a faggot which we all judged to be a bad thing.
>>108346327Blank Space goes hard though
>>108346327>>taylor swift>back in my day admitting to listening to (((pop whore of the day))) would get you branded a faggot which we all judged to be a bad thing.She's popwhore of the last 20 years, not the day. Daddy bought the record deal the rest is fucking history
>>108343819this, actual producers make pennies nowdays, its not the 80s anymore.
>>108335413Reaper, Renoise, Bitwig, Ardour. Those are your 4 best options on linux and theyre all solidAudacity is on linux btw, all those other daws you posted besides ableton are garbage
>>108340832Sensible chuckle.
>>108335413ReaperBitwig StudioHarrison MixbusArdour
>>108345498Gayhttps://youtu.be/khG1W1YN5JI
>>108345618Goyslop eating robot.
>>108348981How is FL Studio garbage?
>>108341798zero barrier for downloading or limitations for using. Only difference between paid and free is a popup at launch past expiration reminding you to purchase a legit copy.
bitwig 6 was released just a couple of days ago!
>>108345618imagine pretending that math rock is good
>>108349782 >>108349782>>108349782
>>108335413unironically use haiku
>>108353062see some profesional radiostation software https://www.tunetrackersystems.com/
>>108335413just use suno daw studio
>>108344386>easier to use than WindowsWrong. And desktop linux isn’t particularly liked either, it has a 2% share.
Just write your own DAW at this point and open-source it, I see it as the only solution.Trying to reverse-engineer or decompile a DAW and its plug-ins seems hopeless so it's better to just write it all from scratch.If it's too hard to do this on your own, try to build a community around this, with people who'd actually care to contribute.Keep in mind that most people are on their phones, and a web-based application would be preferable.
>>108335413If Ableton would support Linux I would unironically switch everything to Linux. That and Adobe After Effects are the only things holding me back. Already have Debian on my work laptop. Reaper is solid but Ableton is just nicer.>>108335879LMMS fucking sucks don't pretend it doesn't.
>>108335413https://www.reaper.fm/download.php
>>108343590>minimal user interface>now with less editing options>"BUT IT LOOKS SLEEK, LIKE APPLE PRODUCTS!"I hate modernism so much.
>>108352857yeah, most math rock is in 4/4 120 BPM major key
how does this thread survive so long but /dmp/ died lol
