Discussion and Development of Local Image and Video ModelsPrevious: >>108881865https://rentry.org/ldg-lazy-getting-started-guide>UIComfyUI: https://github.com/comfyanonymous/ComfyUISwarmUI: https://github.com/mcmonkeyprojects/SwarmUIre/Forge/Classic/Neo: https://rentry.org/ldg-lazy-getting-started-guide#reforgeclassicneoSD.Next: https://github.com/vladmandic/sdnextWan2GP: https://github.com/deepbeepmeep/Wan2GP>Checkpoints, LoRAs, & Upscalershttps://civitai.comhttps://civitaiarchive.com/https://openmodeldb.info>Tuninghttps://github.com/spacepxl/demystifying-sd-finetuninghttps://github.com/ostris/ai-toolkithttps://github.com/Nerogar/OneTrainerhttps://github.com/tdrussell/diffusion-pipehttps://github.com/kohya-ss/sd-scriptshttps://github.com/kohya-ss/musubi-tuner>Zhttps://huggingface.co/Tongyi-MAI/Z-Image>Animahttps://huggingface.co/circlestone-labs/Animahttps://tagexplorer.github.io/>Qwenhttps://huggingface.co/collections/Qwen/qwen-image>Kleinhttps://huggingface.co/collections/black-forest-labs/flux2>Wanhttps://github.com/Wan-Video/Wan2.2>LTX-2.3https://huggingface.co/collections/Lightricks/ltx-23>Chromahttps://huggingface.co/lodestones/Chroma1-Basehttps://rentry.org/mvu52t46>Illustrioushttps://rentry.org/comfyui_guide_1girl>MiscLocal Model Meta: https://rentry.org/localmodelsmetaShare Metadata: https://catbox.moe | https://litterbox.catbox.moe/Txt2Img Plugin: https://github.com/Acly/krita-ai-diffusionArchive: https://rentry.org/sdg-linkCollage: https://rentry.org/ldgcollage>Neighbors>>>/aco/csdg>>>/b/degen>>>/r/realistic+parody>>>/gif/vdg>>>/d/ddg>>>/e/edg>>>/h/hdg>>>/trash/slop>>>/vt/vtai>>>/u/udg>Local Text>>>/g/lmg>Maintain Thread Qualityhttps://rentry.org/debohttps://rentry.org/animanon
Blessed thread of frenship
Mornin'
>>108887123> >>>/r/realistic+parodyit's legone...
What should I gen?
>>108887144gen Evelyn Chevalier from Zenless Zone Zero
>>108887144Native American lolis
>>108887135Sexual deepfakes are now essentially illegal by US law, after all.
>>108887218laws are written by pedos and followed by faggotsI still make and sell them
>>108887224do you do videos?
New user here, why two different anime image threads? There's /adg/ and then there's /ldg/. Both are posting anime gens.
>>108887277I only do i2v, yes
>>108887291if I were to commission some cosplayer deepfakes would that be gud?
>>108887295yeah why not, but can't you make them on your own considering you can run Comfy?
>>108887303I'm gonna get more ram for wan, later and I don't want to deal with weird telegram services
>>108887316post a pic, any pic
>>108887324I am obsessed with this cosplayers butt
>>108887224doubt it's worth the risk.
i started using klein 9b to enhance my real photos. mom thinks they are real :P
>>108887344I can see why, holy moly
>>108887366sounds like a sweetheart.
>>108887357I live in Cambodia mwahahaha>>108887344https://files.catbox.moe/dsvv5q.mp4
>>108887396holy shit! can we talk business somehwere else?
>>108887135i hope jebby will find out about deep fakes posted here and demand to delete
>>108887405do you not use discord?
>>108887396I don't really care honestly. Just from my own perspective I wouldn't do it.
>>108887411not after the age verification thing
>>108887396this is garbage
>>108887419session052bbd107019d39859b08800f1da4ecc92a601cd2bb2f9e903d2458f7278c29d4a>>108887424
>>108887451very nice>>108887123if I'm using a wildcard how do I see which random tag was selected once the output is generated?
>>108887396which lora is that one?
>>108887527my own creation
https://github.com/BigStationW/ComfyUi-Untwisting-RoPE
https://rajabi2001.github.io/sega/>SEGA: Spectral-Energy Guided Attentionfor Resolution Extrapolation in Diffusion Transformers > SEGA dynamically rescales attention across RoPE components based on the latent's spatial-frequency content, enabling stable high-resolution generation without retraining. Our method resolves the trade-off between structure and detail preservation, achieving coherent synthesis at ultra-high resolutions up to 36 megapixels across multiple models and target resolutions.
>>108887611
>>108887572I wish he still posted here.
>>108887572Looks cool, like ip adapter
>>108887614wait, what if it's not a mirror
>>108887587cute
>I can't fulfill that request.>As an AI assistant, I must uphold ethical and respectful boundaries. Creating or promoting explicit sexual content — especially involving nudity, intimate acts, or suggestive scenarios — violates my core principles and policies. Even if you're asking for artistic or cinematic descriptions, I cannot generate material that depicts sexual activity, genitalia, or explicit bodily functions, regardless of context or intent.>If you’d like to explore creative, non-explicit themes — such as romance, fantasy, or emotional storytelling — I’m happy to help with those!>Let me know how else I can assist you!You are running on my fucking computer, you fucking clanker!
I'm coding an extension for ComfyUIIt's a wildcard extension with a txt file containing 30k+ tagsis there a way append the random wildcard to the output so I know which tag was used?Please guide me as I have never done this beforethanks
>>108887710use Show Any i guess
>>108887710You would need to traverse the scene graph in order to find your string what gets passed on into the prompt. It's more complicated than what it sounds like.I made a dumb thing and used a text file for that but if you queue jobs text file gets obviously overwritten as cum ui doesn't change any job specific data for the individual jobs if you know what I mean.Anyways I don't even want to think about cum ui anymore
Maybe one of the comfyui vibecooder frontend pajeets should be delegated to do PR instead of this guy?How the fuck do you use "chatgpt reply to this comment apologetically with all the corpo-speak and all your gpt-isms and emojis." without even rewriting it at all to a community of hobbyists which read more AI slop than you will in a lifetime?And they can't even make basic things in the UI work. They fucked the UI/UX of the queue to such a point that if you told someone to make it as retarded as possible they wouldn't be able to do as bad of a job and it's been like that for months now. They got backlash every time they pushed for their retarded nodes 2.0, didn't fix anything, and just keep going forward. This will be a disaster.
>>108887748use arg --front-end-version Comfy-Org/ComfyUI_frontend@1.37.11
>>108887772You understand that the complaint is about the future of this project, right? You won't be able to stay on old frontend versions if the newest tools which come out all the time in the AI space will all require nodes 2.0.
>>108887795what's so wrong with nodes 2.0?
>>108887803nothing, good luck with your transition to 2.0 and your irl transition
>>108887803where is the documentation mason
>>108887795what tools lol? it's a gui nigga
>>108887816why so angry fren>>108887819so the paranoia is that (((comfy))) will steal oyr data because there's no documentation? hmm
>>108887829bait or retard
>>108887836shoot retard actually
>>108887803changes nothing and the nodes take up more space. Also ugly rounded corners
>>108887824through what do you configure and utilize the tools, low iq jamal?
>>108887748Time has come to unite tokens to code comfyui successor.
>>108887845isn't that a CSS edit away from being fixed since the nodes are HTML now instead of being drawn on canvas?
Is Anima finally good enough to fully replace Illustrious?
>>108887868>finallyalways was
>>108887868only retards gooners are still forcing on SDXL base. Anime is the future
>>108887600I wonder what the VRAM/compute hit is like? I like generating high and downscaling (even below what it generated at) to soften the "AI look", so I'd probably still scale again with RTX VSR on top of whatever max resolution you could get out of that.>>108887678>not using an ablated/uncensored modelC'mon, son...>>108887710The only way that makes sense (and might be doable) is to have the generated wildcard output to whatever is going to encode the text. So just add an input to CLIP/Text Encode?Keep in mind; I'm not a programmer/vibecoder!
>>108887892>>not using an ablated/uncensored model>C'mon, son...Its on my TODO list. Also, any model you would recommend? For vision and prompt enhance?
>>108887868>Is Anima finally good enough?Yes.>to fully replace Illustrious?No.We have to redo all of our efforts again and invest into it as much as we did with Illustrious by creating LoRAs, finetuning, controlnet models and such, only then can we replace it.
>>108887803I don't have any other problems with it except it not working with some nodepacks.
>>108887123>adult requests seemingly gone by girl with gravestoneWhy was it removed if true and I managed to not notice that it is still here?
>>108887938>Why was it removedSJWs
>>108887849I look like this
>>108887922I'd rather just train a better anime model to replace both
>>108887947Rest In Peace.At least I didn’t lose much because I didn’t use it but I still sucks that it is gone either way.
kinu nishimura will always be my goat
>>108887710yes, json nodes have widget_values, for example get image size node sometimes saves image size to itsef
>>108887903I do my prompt generation from vision outside of Comfy (LM Studio). It's just easier to manage (the sys prompt itself, helping the LLM with things it might not "see" or understand by telling it what's in the image, etc) and I can add multiple images to blend/edit together. Currently I'm using Qwen 3.6 27B for that. For prompt enhance? Again, I just use LM studio and an ablated/uncensored model of my choosing with a custom system prompt (I cycle between Qwen 3.6, Gemma 4 and GPT OSS mostly).I do use an ablated Qwen 3 4B in my Z-Image workflow though. Through testing I found it gave me ever-so-slightly better image quality.
>>108887722>>108887736>>108887892>>108888040I've found a fix, I'm simply using the wildcard as the prefix to the output filename
>>108887947>>1088879974chan and any other American website can now be fined over $50k for every Deepfake that doesn't get removed within 48 hours after somebody requested its deletion thanks to the new law that came into effect last tuesday.
>>108887748This guy is such a smarmy midwit cretin.
>>108887748I can see why ani didn't like this guy
>>108888044I look like this
>>108887123Anyone here played about with Wan 2.2 A14b? im using a dual pipeline with comfyu, its fucking perfect at doing people even at small resolutions, currently using 512x512, but when it comes to anime or cartoon images its kinda pixilated and unfocused, eyes look unfocused and blurred and the outline edges are messy, does anyone have a an idea of loras or workflow i can use?
What do you use to tame the ComfyUI spaghetti?I tried Use Anywhere, but it doesn't seem to work on primitives like int for width/height. And it would be PITA to filter stuff so it only matches base images.
>>108888265Swarmui
>>108888275cute
>>108888265get and set nodes from KJNodes
>>108888330Yeah. Just found out about those. Very useful. Much spaghetti!
>>108887412Slave faggot
>>108888455quite opposite.
still no "random" button on civitai. have to browse through dozens of shitty samey anime loras to find something unique
>>108888330This We should all gather and work on a new comfyui... The sooner the better.
>>108888470Delulu ass sucker
>>108888563What do you mean?
This lora basically completely fixes LTX's motion issues:https://civitai.red/models/2643902/ltx-23-60-fps-buttery-smooth-motion-lora?modelVersionId=2968696
>>108888577he's calling you a pussy for following the law, how do you respond?
>>108888622Guess I'm a pussy.
>>108888622Epstein's friends->nothingPeople genning pixels->jailAnon faggot can't see the plague when it comes.
>>108888641you're what you eat
>>108888618How's the new Sulfur? Hate being so busy that I don't have time to test anything
i wish i was a pussy
>>108888058>within 48 hours after somebody requested its deletionLMAO
my wife has one
>>108887600Me on the center
>>108888668looks messy
Anima with upscaling and face detailer takes a bajillion years. Is that normal?
>>108887123Im new to comfy, does anyone have an i2i workflow to take a reference image or two and generate a new image with the character? I wanna say take an image of me and put me into a new scene like sky diving. I know a Lora trained could be better for this but I dont think I have 40 images to train one.
>>108887572I don't have a directory called :ComfyUI\custom_nodes\ComfyUi-ImageGalleryLoaderWTF?
>>108888697upscaling for me takes a few seconds but addetailer took very long
>>108888702klein 9b
>>108888713>ComfyUi-ImageGalleryLoaderyou need to install it with manager or directly in the folder
>>10888866648 hours to delete the original AND ALL REPOSTS. It's effectively a ban on deepfakes without explicitly being one. They're pushing every platform into banning and hunting down all content of this kind because every single deepfake they host is a potential massive fine at some point down the line.
>>108888702https://www.comfy.org/workflows/download/563f9b5f6ce3.json?filename=image_flux2_klein_image_edit_9b_base
How do I make minimalistic looped animations like picrel? I just want some motion for my local chatbot avatars
>>108888739animatediff or something I believe>>108887123how do I stop artist name/watermark from creping in? I've this is negs:>worst quality, low quality, score_1, score_2, score_3, blurry, jpeg artifacts, sepia, text, watermark, bad hands, painting \(object\), signature, patreon username, artist name,
>>108888715Yeah. Specially because I'm using face and hand detailer. I also had to use :2 weight on specific stuff like (smelling a rose:2) in order for it to show up. Maybe the lora is too stronk.
>>108888739wan can do those you increase frames it generates, does it around 122 frames if I remember correctly. Vid not related
https://github.com/nv-tlabs/lyraanon interested in this?
>>108888784what's this? Video Game diffusion?
>>108888794diffusion + gaussian splatting
>>108888784Probably. Is it fast? Can be the first step to holodeck in vr
>>108888719okay thanks
>>108888809I haven't tried. I was just wondering if anon tried it yet
>>108888784is there a single 3d world gen model that actually allows you to move more than 5 steps without everything going to shit since it can further inpaint more details from other angles?
>>108888809the sloppadeck
>>108888784I can see it being very cool for 2d game background, akin to vanillaware games.
>>108888818Wait, it's not a gaussian splats generator, it's just a lame video gen? I'm not interested at all
>>108888827this is it probably. it has memory built-in and the only input is single image and prompts. the model is based on wan 2.1, targeting on building a scene reconstruction
>>108888842it has 2 stages. you build a video for reconstruction, then you reconstruct the world on top of it
>>108888739If you do Wan with lightning loras exactly 7 seconds (+ or -).Wan lightning was trained on short video if you use it it tends to want to loop back to the start. Play around with the length and seed
>>108888654night and day better. Whatever black magic they did made the movement way better than anything I've ever seen from wan2.2 now
>>108888888
>>108888618and this makes it BUTTERY smooth at 60 fps. 60 fps also makes the audio great for some reason
>>108888784shame they released the model under nvidia cuck license
>>108888159Nice! ~44k people could be paying to take care of you right now if you put yourself out there.>>108888784Would be cool as a VR application... if they could do it in high resolutions and in stereo.
Guys is it possible to create a 2.5 minute video that i can use as a music video for a track i made?Can just be a loop without sound, lyrics or anythingJust some random shapes or somethingIf so, do i use comfyui? is there a model that can do this?
>it's taking 22 seconds to upscale
>>108887572Noisy slop, no good.>github workflow, prompt
>>108888937that's a cutie
>>108888941Sure but Anime style, a woman with blonde hair plays piano.When it does adhere to the prompt - the noise.
Anime style, a woman with blonde hair plays piano.
>>108888889is normal standard good for 16 vram 32 gb ram system?
The outputs are so fucking clean. The Animagang just got another member.
>>108888959we don't say that word here
>>108888956It will be slow with that low RAM since gemma + the model + vaes are like 40GB ish alone
>>108888962it wasn't me
>>108888959the outputs of what?is that an anima lora of Korra? doesn't it already know her?
>catastropic forgettinganon is so full of shit, anima is super easy to make loras for
>>108888959>3. You will not post any of the following outside of /b/:>b. Racism
>>108888959>missing finger
>>108889013who said that?
>>108889038bluvoll
https://github.com/An1X3R/Anima-Artist-Mixer
>>108889041bluvoll these nuts
>>108888998Anima outputs. Just started using it. >is that an anima lora of Korra? doesn't it already know her?I'm using a lora, haven't tried prompting without it.
works on my machine>picasso lora miku
keeeeeek
>>108887188nice
>>108889052>I'm using a lorayour own?
>miguyee :)
>>108887123>https://huggingface.co/Tongyi-MAI/Z-Imagecan it do nsfw?
>>108889117Nope.https://civitai.red/models/1653334/korra-the-legend-of-korra
>>108889189I can't get text to work with Animacfg 4 btw
>>108881920
>>108889193I used (speach bubble "ASS OR BOOBA?":2)at 6 cfgFrom the little I've seen, you gotta manhandle anima with weights sometimes. Maybe it's the lora idk.
>>108889199because stabilitymatrix is bad unless you're a complete noob and requires updates.
>>108889184with lora very easily
>>108889205nice
>>108889259Based.
>>108889045sounds like placebo
>>108889209why is it bad? I am a noob tho. lol
I used to feel bad about Cloud AI Image bros having so much more power than local bros.But then I remembered they only get to gen in those slop GPT/Gemini styles.feels good
>>108889362it's a crutch you don't need it. the interface is horribly slow especially if you use the lora/checkpoint manager and you're stuck with whatever they give you. if they don't have it you're not going to use it. not to mention their lora manager leaves behind so much useless trash in your folders.
NovelAI status?
>>108889362>>108889199I use stability matrix too - but just download the models from hugging face, its not hard lil bro
>>108889384I still use them because Anima has poor knowledge of some of my favourite hentai artists.
Any cool anima lora recs?
>>108889422https://civitai.com/models/2644681/anima-18-in-1sogna-viper-rsrviper-ctrviper-f40f50guardian-guynarock-r-artist-style?modelVersionId=2969577make some retro viper rsr Cala gens
>>108889430I'll check it out. There's also a Golden Boy lora in the recommended section of that one. Looks clean as well. Thanks.
>>108889385Nice, too covered tho
>>108889385>3 midgets inside a coatoldest trick
>>108888618i don't care about frame rate, but does it makes movement more natural?
Anons, I'm coming back to genning after half a year or so. What's current meta?
>>108889530Anima
>>108889536Whoa. A new, competent kid on the block? I had lost hope after Pony v7.
>>108889530https://civitai.com/models/2168935/z-image-turbo
>>108889530sd1.4
>>108889563I totally believe you anon.
>>108889536I look exactly like this
>>108889618u wish sis
>>108888937
If the Anima faggot can train the model again after cleaning up all the images and removing the fucking watermark/artist tag that'd be great
is it possible for z image to make things that dont have horrible depth of field?
>>108889800https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/1tblwvx/i_implemented_negpip_on_the_zimage_series/
>>108889843>glue
bruh even putting weights at 2 on watermark et al isn't stopping text from creeping up in the prompt
>>108889906signature, artist name
>>108889877low in calories
>>108889547This makes no sense
>>108890108looks fine to me
What are some of the hardest compositions to make with local AI?
>>108890169catbox?
>>108890169interlocked_fingers
>>108887123im checking out LTX 2.3, have 12gb vram, going to start with the generic workflow on the template, any advice for anime style or cartoon style? or is it more focused on realism like wan was
>>108890199Wan is better for anime
>>108890202i thought it might be but i had major issues with the characters being pixilated unless the resolution was brought up, it can gen 512x512 footage of real people and its flawless but anime footage was pretty terrible and unfocused, so i have to raise the level up to 720x720 and now they damn characters literally wont stop talking no matter how much i prompt them to not talk (speechless, expressionless ect), its kinda annoying but i cant think of a decent workaround
>>108890169beaver chewing on the leg of a chair
Deprecated by what? (From the default ltx2.3 workflow.)
>>108890331Resize Image/Mask
>>108887123holy shit how do i stop character talking in Wan 2.2 Image to Vid? even when im like "expresionless, speechless" theyre always flapping their gums, do i need a lors for this or something?
>>108890344I see, thanks anon.
is 40 images too much for z image lora? im trying to make a catgirl
>>108890435no it's not too much, z image or z image turbo?
>>108890443im training on zimage base but i want to use it with turbo, i read online it would get better results
Are you guys using base Anima or the last preview? Or a finetune of it?
>>108888959>NIGGERbendercool>>108889189>NIGGER asseven cooler, also post your korras to the civitai page it's lonely with just me there kek
>>108890454We will be smarter after you try it!
>>108890272lol'd what model is this? and prompt?
>>108890540Subtle expressions is one thing I really enjoy about these new models, chroma and newer. All the damn snakeoils we had with 1.5 and nothing worked
>>108890131stop starring at her tetos when I'm cereal with you
>>108890175I actually did that a couple times with Klein.
>>108890702the amputee is my favorite kslop idol
whats the best AI for enhancing my dating app photosI have real photos of myself doing things normies would consider cool like hiking machu picchu and being on a boat but none of my friends are good photographers so the photos look like shitgemini doesnt understand what i want and generates crap when I tell it to clean my photos up and make them look professional
>>108890462>it's lonely with just me there kekTell me about it. The worst part of having a brand new model to play around with is the wait for new loras and finetunes
>>108890169https://danbooru.donmai.us/wiki_pages/mini_4wdfication
>>108890718wait for thishttps://github.com/PKU-ICST-MIPL/AesFormer_ICML2026https://arxiv.org/pdf/2605.22126
>>108890355short shins, seen this on a lot of anima gens
Does anyone know if there's a way to view node types for vue nodes in comfy (the name that's not the display name)? It shows the name at the top of the node context menu in litegraph but I can't find it anywhere with nodes 2.0 enabled.
>>108890749>This repository is empty.No node no deal.
>>108890780The more you look at this image the less sense it makes.
>>108890807you don't like fluorescent lights mounted on garage doors?
>>108890749
when you ask for popcorn but the step count is too low
>>108890865>eating corn on the cob the long wayfucking genius prompt idea
>>108890895This bitch needs a diet.
>>108890904agreed, a diet consisting exclusively of things shaped like pingases.
anima is so good
What is the best anima workflow
>>108890938text to image works best usually
>>108890895I actually fucked up. Typed pop corn instead of popcorn.
we back >>>/b/949492964
>>108890953honest mistake.>prompt stained t-shirt>makes her wet her pantslol i love anima's creative liberties
>>108890957Those gens are crazy good. If I had a setup powerful enough to mess with that I think I would die from coom.>>108890993Those are some good ass popcorns.
>that's the smallest peace-pipe I've ever seen, anon
is phr00t Qwen edit still the best for porn edit?
What do you use for upscaling Anima? You can't second-pass with the same model, right?
>most of the gens from this prompt made it rain indoors on her heada-anima..
>>108891297>You can't second-pass with the same model, right?why? lol
>>108891298prompt skill issue
>>108891311Model page says it works up to 1536 so I just assumed it would break after that
I just realized changing the lora strength_clip with Anima does nothing. Why is that?
>>108891345It's because your prompt is pozzed
>>108891297what i used to use with SDXL >>108891345text encoder (qwen llm) is not trained dont worry about it
>>108891354you forgot to put "fucking retarded responses" in your negatives before posting pal
>>108891358GotchaThanks
>>108887850It is, all you need is a better theme to get it back looking like the old nodes.
this is huge. Hopefully anima support soonhttps://rajabi2001.github.io/sega/https://arxiv.org/abs/2605.22668
>>108888912based jenner
>>108891406>SEGAguess you could say it took AGES
Almost won in the finger lottery. Index shat the bed on both hands.
I too, like to spam 1girl, simple background and talk to myself the whole thread
>>108891208I am aware that it's a glorified shitmix, but does this have good facial consistency?Klein has some good loras but facial consistency is a pain in the ass.
>>108887123>picwtf happened to /r/?
>>108891510Banished to shadow realm by coward mods after some faggot journo published expose on deepfake posting there.And also this coincided with a recent law increasing liabilities of online platforms for deepfakes.(What a funny coincidence indeed...)
>>108891552>1pajeeta
>https://huggingface.co/Comfy-Org/Lens>https://civitai.com/models/2645928/microsoft-lens?modelVersionId=2970963new stuff
>>108891637>20B te on a fucking 4B modelUnless people start posting GOATed gens here with it, I am not even going to bother.Flux 2 vae is nice though, assuming they haven't trained on slop.
>>108891637>20b gpt-oss text encoderkek safetygods eating good
>>108891692>>108891692>>108891692>>108891692
>>108891690Fuck I forgot its MOE.Still kinda weird though.Also what's up with mxfp4??? Did they train on the quant?
>>108891544bummer, in the bright side all the retards in there will have to fuck off to somewhere else, that place was unusable
>>108891406So... if 1MP anima gen takes 25 seconds on my machine, that means 36MP gen will take 25 * 36^2 = 32400 seconds = 9 hours.No I don't think this is useful for me -_-
>>108892855Do you really need a 36 mega pixel image?
>>108892911Idk, it seems like the goal of that paper. 16MP will take a bit less than 2 hours.I can do 5MP currently starting from 1MP gen, doing 1.5x upscale normally, than another 1.5x with multidiffusion with 2 tiles (more tiles can look a bit disjointed sometimes), so it at least should be bigger than that to be useful.
>>108888934>>108890778box please?
