>you'll be sorry when AI prices go up and you can't afford to use it anym-ACK!snails on sewer slide watch
>>109707955So how do record low token prices translate to record profits for AI data centers?
>>109708114they'll make up the low prices with volume
>>109708119Higher volume increases running cost and requires more powerful data center.
>>109707955Based as fuck>n-no this is not true it’s fake ai is a bubble Keep coping luddite, you LUDLOST
>>109708119More customers = more losses, not profits. Customers cost more than they pay
https://isaiprofitable.com/It doesn't matter how cheap they become, investors will at some point not only want their money back, but a big return especially for how long it's taking
>>109707955Rip Anthropic
>>109708143more items sold = more profit it's simple maths
>>109708136Samefag as fuck>n-no, low token sales mean AI is making a profitKeep kvetching, cargo cultist. You never had a chance.
>>109708132That's what debt and defaults are for.Let the goyim deal with your inability to service debt.
>>109708325Item costs more to supply than its sold for
>>109708150>Two thirds of all revenue is the fake money ai corps spent on Nvidia
>>109708150>remove nvidia>$1.3 trillion spend, $243 billion revenueum
>>109708136So in order to save the economy, you devalue the only product you had going for it?Not really a flex anon
>>109707955>AI token prices hitting record lowsImpressive. Very nice. Now let's see how much of that is due to increased token use from chink models
>>109708374It's ok, nvidia is giving loans to all the AI datacenter companies to buy their product.
>>109708325If only AI could improve your IQ
people pay for AI?
>>109708114Shut up snailcat
Can't wait for all these "kek luddite cope snailcat" ragebaiting dalits to collectively commit suicide once they lose all of their izzat after the investors realize they're not getting any profits.
>>109707955The token cost issue was always kind of silly, obviously prices will trend to zero over time with hardware improvements.The problem is more that it will either crash the economy or be artificially inflated in price because the companies are pretending that what is essentially open source information is a walled garden when it obviously isn't because all the AI companies are just riffing off whitepapers that everybody else has. The moat is money needed to train models, but that's not a real barrier to any major institution. The only arguable moat is the difficulty with which it has become to get non-AI generated content off the internet, which is why there is such a rush to get the best book datasets from before the AI apocalypse ruined online content permanently.
>>109708677that's retail price thoughever, not what the companies pay to generate the content for those tokens
>>109708630What does that even mean?
>>109708114Quiet goy
>>109708694>What does that even mean?
>>109708723cute
>>109708723I don't understand how that's an insult. You sound mentally deficient. Please strongly consider euthanasia.
>>109708746he spends all day everyday forcing his shit meme and overall making text generators his entire identity
>>109708746>>109708752this is you
>>109708768Don't get it, sorry.
>>109708114Because the cost of running the models is dropping faster than the price of tokens. Meaning margins are going up.
>>109708150they are preparing for hyperinflation and investing in hardware. money wont mean much soon
>>109708889Is it?Or is it rather the massive fear of losing against free Chinese models?If mulatto corporations spend trillion on chatbots, while Chinks release them for free, what does that mean for the mulatto corpo?
>>109707955I hope the bubble can finally burst so I can have cheaper hardware again
>>109707955On average. Notice how there are now many tiers of models and Google, for one, has lobotomized Gemini to decrease costs (3.6 was a complete embarrassment). Most are advertising this as faster models.
>>109707955What I see here is Chinese LLMs taking over.
>>109708325If the cost of your product is greater than the price you're selling for, it doesn't matter how much you sell of the product, you will never break into profit.
>>109708809Nigga, stop replying to a troll. Are you retarded?
they're crashing because1. chinese models are cheaper2. no one is actually using this shit 3. no one is paying for it so supply follows demand4. AI industry and by extension the global economy is about to crash
>>109709200You must be living under a rock.Absolutely everyone is using AI in one way or another. Vibe Coding has been a massive hit, Everyone, even the normiest of normies talk about how they've integrated ChatGPT into their lives.
>>109709236i use it all the time myself. i'm saying the average normie doesn't give a fuck. yes *we* all use it because we're shut-in nerds. non-shut-ins do not give a fuck.you're believing hype to think otherwise you dumb goyim.
>>109708374Yeah it's as bubble as it can get. People shovel money into it because it's the New Big Thing, like buying bored monkey pictures. I bet people would give anything to get a rare monkey picture these days, right? Too bad all the good ones are already taken! You snooze, you lose!
>>109709169No, I want him to explain that shit.
>>109708114lmfao
>>109707955I'm not using jew services even if they're free. It either runs on my computer or it does not.
>>109709314>no>yes I amk
>>109709350No izzat for you, diaper boy.
>>109709352>jeet lingotypical for retards
>>109709365>I need attenshunCry harder.
>>109709200>>109709243The upper management of engineering for pretty much every large corporation has been jizzing themselves over AI for a while now and forcing people below them to use it. At my company they've basically told us if we don't start using it day to day we could get fired.
>>109708809You’re a moron if you don’t get it
>>109710900It's random nonsense.
>>109708346You’re trans
>>109707955it's about fucking time they do something with all the GPUs and RAM they stole from the consumer
>>109710943More idiotic nonsense from the mental patient.
>>109711036>you are a luddite and programmers are obsolete
>>109711050
>>109708468It's 102% (with a 2% margin of error) Chink models forcing these niggers to compete.
>>109711080>using AI generated image to win an argument
>>109711086It's not even a question. GLM-5.3-Flash is ripping absolute ass and I'm frankly just waiting for the suicides to start because fucking 0.075$ per 1M in, 0.25$ per 1M out L M A O
>>109711103You’re trans literally
>>109711108Is this all you've got?
>>109711123you lost
>>109711164>projecting
>>109711103You are literally replying to an AI marketing bot. How do you people still not get it?
>>109711457>muh bot Cope more >>109711197Seethe, snailcat
>>109711486>obsessed
>>109707955I have zero use for LLMs and I spent the money building my own local and two years down the rabbithole. Their hallucinations make them worthless and always will and even the big companies in the space like google and microsoft have 'products' that are practically worthless and are causing great harm to their users by confidently pronouncing correct and skewed information. It will take a decade to recover from the damage being done now by vibe coding by jeet fakers and the dregs that washed into information tech with little ability chasing money, count on it, Sam alman and musk are lying worthless vermin as is zuckergberg and the jeets they have created a financial disaster.
>>109711486>snailcatPathetic forced meme crap. I'm beginning to think that it's the signature of an LLM bot. Hard to imagine an actual human being this retarded.
>>109711527/thread
I'm slow to the latest gay forced memes. What's snail mean, and why's it being used as an insult?
>>1097092002 more weeks, right?
>>109711548It's the gayest forced meme to date, brought to you by the OpenAI marketing team.
>>109711527Keep crying, snailoid. We will destroy you
>>109711548Coping and projecting strategy. It's a """derogatory""" term for ""luddittes""
> It's the gayest forced meme to date, brought to you by the OpenAI marketing team
>>109711573Are you actually In dian or just a LLM bot spam? Can anyone even tell the difference. Anyone who thinks LLMs are worth a wet fart to anyone is not into tech and has never taken a deep dive on them that's for sure.
>>109711573>>109711587I hope this is a bait.
>>109707955Nice! Lets see what you've vibe coded.
>>109711591It could be either. There are millions of jeets that will spend all day spamming the internet with artificial "memes" handed to them by OpenAI marketing for a bag of rice.
>>109711620>muh jeetsI’m a bosnianGOD you South African freak
>>109711587Nobody is falling for it. The more you spam this the more artificial it looks. Have your marketing department come up with something new at least.
>>109711628Cope
>>109711637See this is what I mean. Typical LLM response, incapable of saying anything original. This is how you recognize a clanker.
>>109711647seethe
>>109711669Thanks for proving his point
>>109708114
>>109708114stop asking questions
>>109707955The one that will "win the AI race" will be the one that offers the product the public enjoy the most, not the most technologically advanced or bigger.The "bubble pop" will be everyone else losing when this specific solution come, because this will be the only one to do REAL profit, instead of just a circle handjob.Also dedicated smart hardware will kill nvidia.
costs are going down too
>>109711510Schizos have hallucinations too
>>109708901Can they eat the hardware?
>>109709236I don't know a single person that pays for AI.
>>109711811> dedicated smart hardware will kill nvidiaYeah buying Huggingface shows they're very aware of this danger. Giants like Google and Microslop can make their own AI hardware without too many issues, but many smaller players will have to rely on Nvidia for a little longer.
>>109713379I think the best candidates for destroying Nvidia on Inference are ARM, Intel and AMD.They can add high bandwidth flash to future APUs. I think hbf is going to benefit others more than Nvidia, as this enables large models to run on any single chip without complicated networking setups, like Nvidia loves to sell.
>>109711510Quantized versions of the models hallucinate a lot.
did you remember to thank China today?
>>109708114don't be antisemitic anon that's not cool
>>109708889>Because the cost of running the models is dropping faster than the price of tokens.So what does this mean for the 50 billion ram chips they bought and the 500 datacenters they're building in backyards?
>>109711601I kinda believe anon saying this is corporate slop because they always remove the racist part
>>109711548>be snail>too slow to even comprehend the jokemaybe I didn't give it enough creditluddsnails really are snails and trans
>>109707955at my work we have unlimited tokens the sams way we have unlimited pto.
>>109713869> I kinda believe anon saying this is corporate slop because they always remove the racist part
>>109713835they are for the yet to be born 10 billion Indians that will exist by the time they are built
>>109713831what?
>>109708325When your making a loss per sale every extra sale = more loss and lower price = more loss
>>109714878less clients means more bankrupcy
>>109711669>>109711637>>109711486Arrest more and go to bed bosnian teen, you never made anything worthwile.
>>109708723>>109708768>>109711587>>109711601>>109714648guess what
>>109708150>Only profitable companies are hardware makersThis is the business of the millennia isn't it?For the 5 companies making the hardware the bubble relies on, that is.
>>109715011>What have you shipped vibebro?It's clear as a day, the 4 pictures he keeps posting and not getting banned from this site for spamming and flooding.At this point I guess this idiot is either a mod or a jannie and I guess I'll now enjoy a 3 day vacation from all boards for this post.
>>109708114They'll get people hooked on AI and then they will raise the prices, only it won't be like the last time they tried it and it'll surely work this time, you'll see
>>109715370Obsessed
>>109715370Vibe-bros can only ship, they can't maintain.The selfhosted guys know what I mean by that. How many would-be *arrs have been tossed around reddit, the lemmies and the like only to have "last updated 4 months ago" left on their git repos?
>>109715485Rent free..
>>109710943>>109711108You're grandmas literally>>109714176not our problem is you ran out of tokens.
>>109711573>>109711623Keep being gay you subsaharan nuisance peasant.>wespeak it for yourself, you won't do shit.
>>109708150>The profitable ones are the companies selling hardwareLMAOOOOOO
>>109708325What if each item is being sold at a loss? Now more items sold equals less profit.
>>109716194>>109716202You lost
little red zitron now says the tokens are too cheap so they can't make money and will collapse
>>109717169>he makes games that slap like uuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
>>109707955lol. you nailed it man. Too many dumb fucks that don't use AI have no clue what the fuck is going on. Token Costs are dropping like a fucking rock. Frontier level models run on two DGX sparks. 9 billion parameter models can do real work and run on 16gb of ram. Deepseek v3 with RAG ass rapes frontier level models for insight work, and costs pennies. A $900 m1 max can run local models, train local models, use local RAG. The kike money chargers in the temple are about to get blown the fuck out.
>>109708150why no samsung and sk hynix
>>109717415there is no commercial incentive to make this tech more efficient
>>109708374Do you expect the data centers that are currently still being built to be profitable?
>>109717431Because that would make it look less awful and the anti-AI narrative wouldn't be as strong
>>109708889Cost of training is pretty high though and only keeps getting higher
>>109717169>>109717169the gamehttps://desuarchive.org/g/search/image/LvH-EmLcDwQLv0e3jQsx8Q/
>>109717447you are assuming it is a human being making it more efficient now and not just the biggest fuckhuge model that youve never even met doing the work and giving us the scraps
One does not simply hold then resell tokens
>>109717447>there is no commercial incentive to make this tech more efficientlisten up kike, you aren't in control like you think you are. All men aren't spiritually weak little cockroaches that only think in dollar signs. Repent.
you faggots wont be laughing when anthropic has its $30 trillion IPO
>>109708325They’re also subsidizing the fuck out of people on plans as opposed to paying the rates for straight api access.
>>109708677Just do what the chinese do and train in the outputs of the best models. Ez
>listen up kike, you aren't in control like you think you are. All men aren't spiritually weak little cockroaches that only think in dollar signs.
