If the Germans had won the war, we'd all be using this plug.
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>>109973920American plugs got us to the moon.
>>109973920Clearly superior and way more robust than any other muslim country's (including england or america) plugs/ sockets
>>109973920americans are still stuck on 110V like cavemen, they (you?) should fix that first before talking about plugs
>>109973920I'm using that plug type already. They're very sturdy.
>>109973931>American plugs got us to the moon.
>>109973920the socket itself is fine, but CEE 7/7 is the better plug type
>>109974026They aren't, it's less convenient than being on one standard voltage but they've never been stuck exclusively on 110V. You can (if your jurisdictions building code allows it, i.e. anywhere outside of cities like chicago is fine) wire your house 220V in america, it's just that it would be an uniquely dumb thing to do because you need the more expensive and rare, 220V nema plugs to not accidentally plug in something that's designed for 110V and then import small appliances from overseas because no one manufactures appliances designed for 220V at home and rewire them.
>>109974111These are nice but they need to be gone sooner than later, 2 standards is worse than 1. Poland and France already begun phasing them out, belgium is next. Shitalians are doing their own thing.
>>109973920These plugs can't decide which gender they are. Germany banned that kind of stuff. So going forward they would have created a new standard, one which conforms to natural gender norms.
>>109974660Mindbroken
Step aside, THIS is the best plug in the world, not round retarded shit taking up too much space.
>>109974699>No fuses>No polarity>No cross compatibility with anything>Equal length ground and hot pins>Feeble little needle pins>Confined to a country that peaked during the punic warsMario pls
>>109974730>No polarityThis is a good thing, you can plug it however you want much like an USB-C, why would you list it as a bad thing?>Equal length ground and hot pinsWhy is this a bad thing?>Feeble little needle pinsThey're not feeble at all, I'd need to apply some serious force to it to twist them, and even then they don't break.>Confined to a country that peaked during the punic warsThis is irrelevant to the design itself which arguably better than its retarded round counterparts. Much like USB was better than its counterparts and it eventually became the norm.
>>109973920We lost the war too but most appliances here come with this thing anyway.I always cut it off and replace it with type L thoughbeit. It voids the warranty but it doesn't matter since jews only allow things to break after it's expired.
>>109974860Not having polarity can be a massive issue with terribly designed appliances of which I assure you there are more than you can imagine. The classic example is a toaster with live ribs in the middle that shocks you when you touch them, this of course depends on you buying low quality dogshit designed by people with no considerations about safety but there are plenty of mistakes that can arise from not having polarity slipping through the QA even in high end products.Because the ground pins should always break connection last to allow for your RCD to work if you accidentally rip the wire out of the socket or something.Maybe I'm biased because it looks like the 2 pin option that we have that always bends, I believe it is compatible with your garbage hence I call it feeble.Yes it is relevant, it's a pain in the ass to have to manufacture your own plugs (or commission them for a markup), sockets, wire them to appliances and that's why your shitaly is switching to shuko.
>>109973920You'd be in the oven or chemically castrated for being deemed unfit if nazis had won
If the German's had won the war our technology would have surpassed the need to plug shit in
>>109974939Yes it is compatible, so unless you manufacture all your plugs out of polyamide which you probably don't because it's expensive I know from first hand experience that your plugs are in fact demonstrably shit.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europlug?useskin=vector#Type_L_(Italian)
>AC>polarity
>>109974951No it wouldn't, those same scientists got employed by the US and soviet union
>>109975085the good scientists were hungarian and you got none of those
it's feels too light
>>109975949Is this AI "upscaled" or is that text rendering just fucked beyond belief
>>109974730out of all the only argument is it being feeble. I used it for a while because of reasons and it's kinda shit. schuko is king.the only electrically better one is the british one but that's fucking huge and retarded. hence why I like shuko more. used those for a while but don't really like them in practice, they're kinda retarded, don't fully plug into the socket, it's like americans/italians it stays outside.schuko grips it all around as it all slides in, and is more secure.
>>109973920i was 15 when i learnt you guys don't use these
>>109974860>They're not feeble at all, I'd need to apply some serious force to it to twist them, and even then they don't break.they're feeble fucked a few of those. just because you're careful with them so they don't break does not mean they are not feeble. it means you learned to manage them.
>>109975189This ain't a dick measuring contest, calm your fat patriotic mantits
uk plug is the best but it's a little too big tb h
>>109974660What the fuck are you talking about?
>>109974660I met up with someone last weekend and coomed deeply into their gender neutral orfice. I honestly have no idea what their birth gender must have been. They go by zirs and zirs came a boatload of tranny fluid all over my BWC. Zirs was shaking and gushing like a mad lad/lass. I think it was originally a pussy bc it self lubricated and the fleshy meat organ above its fuck hole, which looked like an extremely angry tiny penis, throbbed and pulsated when I pounder zirs into ecstasy. I hope it gets pregnant with our deep sea donkey baby.
>>109974730>Equal length ground and hot pinsWhy is this bad?
>>109977456Ideally you want ground to make contact first and break contact last, so your shit is always grounded when you're plugging or unplugging it. That way if something on the inside went wrong, you don't suddenly become the shortest path to ground.
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>>109974618And in Europe if you have a house get three-phase 480V
>>109977484Makes sense. Thanks mate
"Type F"? It's schuko.
>>109977497>480You mean 400? As in 3x230V plus a ground?In my country every dog house has three 230V phases so you could in theory jerry rig a 400V "power socket" for a welding machine for example but not all Euro countries do that. Norway and some french speaking countries make the 230 volts from two 133V or whatever lines so idk how their stuff is rigged for 400V.
>>109974618That's a lot of words to say Americans are still stuck on 110V
>>109974939>Not having polarity can be a massive issue with terribly designed appliancesthis nigga trusts the polarised plug on chinkshitGet real lol
>>109977484The socket has shorter contacts for the power pins, in fact the power holes are covered by a plastic shutter when not in use and can only be opened when pushed simultaneously.
>>109977497>if you have a houseEveryone does, not just house owners. All apartments and condos are 400V too.
>>109974618use case for 220v
>>109974939You're a retarded faggot.>Not having polarity can be a massive issue with terribly designed appliancesIt's literally the opposite. Designing appliances that rely on polarity can be a massive issue. That's why nobody does it.Since neither manufacturers nor consumers can rely on the polarity being right under any circumstances, using a polarized plug system is nothing but a humiliation ritual that is less convenient for zero benefit. It is objectively bad design.
>>109980169No, they're fucking not.
>>109976078UK plug is the best because the ring circuit is the worst. That's why the plug needs a fuse.
>>109980425Skill issue. My apartment is 200 years old and got retrofitted ages ago.
>>109974658Italian here. Life is suffering.
>>109975949>to do it is work>to show it is majestic existence>"it's feels"SAAAAAAAAAAAAAR
Maybe it's just me but I find these really don't stay in if the socket or plug is even slightly out of tolerance
>>109973931you just needed nazi scientists to use them properly
>>109974077You can just... get a telescope and look at the shit we have left behind there
>>109981427>et a telescope and look at the shit we have left behind thereyou can't do that with an amateur telescope from here
>>109974660>These plugs can't decide which gender they are.
>>109973920We all are already using that plug
>>109975949>>109976078Do you really want to have the same plug for your appliances ang opening a beer?
>>109976078nah both your houses and electricity is thirdie tier so you need them that fat since your houses burn down otherwise
>>109980398I can't diagnose your problem because it relies on the false assumption that we do rely on polarity when designing appliances in YUROP which is simply untrue. It's just a contingency.
>>109981960>in YUROPit's ok muhammad, we know neither english nor reading comprehension is your forte, but don't worry, the government will take keep taking care of your regardless
>>109982007>the government will take keep taking carethank you sir
I'm not convinced there'd be a we
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>>109973927F pbp
>>109981960Wrong. Do you know anything about something named Polarity? Schuko does not guarantee it. French do. Also french is more elegant, yet still safe as Schuko.
polarity is such a nothingburger in the context of an appliance.You can always spot the absolute laymen by their strong opninion on muh polarity
>>109981194Just plug it in sideways.
>>109973920>not even polarizedHow do I even tell which hole is hot and which is neutral apart from shoving a paper clip in them and seeing which one zaps me?
>>109984878
>>109980425>>109980169Are you talking about picrel? Not the entire Europe does 3x230V. And even if you lived in a 3x230V country, your place doesn't necessarily have picrel installed. AFAIK electricity companies charge you extra for even having one for some reason.(technically you could jerry rig one from 3 different phases from ordinary wall outlets)
>>109974950it's all the same system umduck>>109981427you can even do it while viewing the curve out the plane window
>>109980169>>109980425>>109985224I don't know enough about other euro countries so I'm just going to mention the building I live in is just connected to the local network by a single thick cable that goes into a 3-way split near the entrance, and the 3 less thick lines coming out of it then each branch off into a set of apartments. All of it is 230VAC, I've seen it being installed.
The American plug is the best because we were actually able to get our neighbors to agree on them and use them. While the Europeans just all collectively decided to all reinvent the wheel for no fucking reason. I'd have more respect for it if Europe had one standard. There's good no reason for Italians and French people not to have the same socket. The fact that nobody in Europe thought it was a good idea to talk to the countries neighboring them or try to establish a socket standard outside their nations is just silly.
>>109975949>>109976078>looks strong>yet can easily be pulled outbasically a fag trying to act manly
>>109974730>>No polarityit's AC
>>109975949
>>109973920Where is the ground prong? Is it in the socket instead of the plug?
>>109981513yjk
>>109981513>bottom leftYOU JUST KNOW that plug enjoyed some of that grounded connection as well.
>>109977497>three-phase 480VIt's 400V - you get 3 wires carrying 220-230v and current is measured between two lives.
>>109973920Can some non retard correct me but:I don't think any plug that has parrelel lines could be considered good.If you make them vertical then someing falling into them can't create a connection.For wall outlets only.Pic related
>>109986245That problem is solved in the Schuko design by having the socket recessed. The prongs on the plug are physically too short to touch the contacts in the socket while still being exposed. The plug will physically cover and close off the socket before contact is made, so it's not possible to touch a prong while it is live, as a prong that is exposed at all is always disconnected.
>>109973931American plugs an German scientists Werner von Braun ring any bells? Photographed in a group photo with a certain Austrian failed painter with a funny moustache.
>>109986073The top and bottom
>>109975949it's pretty well known the UK has the best electric system
>>109986325I like this! But I get it requires a thicker minimum wall width.
>>109985463it can't, because the wire is at the bottom of the plug. pulling on it exerts mostly torque and you'd sooner tear the wire than rip the plug out
>>109984878Measure AC potential against ground.Or use the suicide stick >>109984926
>>109986400If the wall is super thin, you can use these
>>109974077And what powers those cameras and lights?
>>109986400Not necessarily, you could also have the outlet protrude out beyond the surface of the wall, they do actually make outlets like that as well.
>>109974730Ground pin? Schuko?The pins don't need to be strong due to the recessed socket. Could hang yourself on a plugged in Schuko extension cord.
>>109983386>Schuko does not guarantee it. French do.The French plug doesn't guarantee polarity either. Any socket might be wired up with a reverse polarity.
>>109986539In fact neither any other socket. Idiocy of man cannot be surpassed.The reason for Schuko design is diffferent than for French. Schuko originally had each hole live with 110V against Ground and 220V against each other with only one pin for Neutral and Ground (TN-C, upper and lower pins are connected). Frenchies had 220V against Neutral and Ground, each has own contact (TN-C/TN-S). So the full french is more secure than german one. And aestethically better.But the best example of shit is socket "I" - Australia, New Zealand. In Argentina and Uruguay are live and neutral on the opposite holes than in original norm.
>>109973920I love these little fuckers like you wouldn't believe
>>109986428>suicide stickOh please, as long as you're only dealing with common mains voltage that thing is fine. And even if you defeat the resistor or break the spring and it somehow bridges up to the top contact 230VAC on the tip of a finger is nothing, just don't be a retard two-hander.Or go ahead and spring for a non-contact tester if you want to poke sockets all day.>>109986527>Ground pin? Schuko?Why not? That's what the hole on the plug is for.
>>109986400If you have walls that thin you gave bigger issues
>>109983386French looks looser and more easily damaged (rotation load completely goes into the pins instead of being handled by the socket)
>>109973920we really started one world war with these fuckers and beat them in both just to use their electrical socket standard>>109974618no you can't >>109977497>480Vwrong 400V
>>109986794>Frenchies had 220V against Neutral and Ground, each has own contact (TN-C/TN-S)It's 2026 everyone does TT now, gramps.
E (BE/FR) is technically better than F (DE/Schuko) because it can enforce polarity, but honestly it's all the same shit. The CEE 7/7 plug that works with both types is genius and shut down any kind of bickering between the two standards.
>>109987255We could have smaller sockets by switching to the Swiss socket or Type N.
>>109985224You don't get those plugs but a 400V connection for electric stoves is extremely normal.
>>109987289>had 1 fucking job>managed to make it non-reversible
The F type is by far the safest one
>>109987342>can't enforce polaritylolno
>>109987306>400V connection400V simply means more than one phase: two or three, stoves usually allow for one, two or three phases.Can't remember how my stove is connected but I can remember it having more than one possible setups depending on phases available.
>>109978212that's CEE 7/7, not schuko
>>109987372properly designed appliances shouldn't care about polarity. the plug enforces it.
>>109973920So perfect and secure.
>>109986428This fucking thing is a suicide stick, the screwdrivers are fine.
>>109978262It's 120V, and at least we can mostly still afford to use it. It's 2026, they have VFD controllers now - who the hell needs actual three-phase power in their home?
>>109986367>start plugging this
>>109973920I hate it, give me back my fuse.
>>109989176They're all neatly arranged in your fusebox.
>>109973931
>>109986995>Why not?because symmetry, it fits either way
>>109987372Yeah having to live with schuko, I've encountered so unbelievably many problems because of the polarity!Oh wait no, nothing ever, ever happened
electricity scares me because I don't fully grok how it works and stuff, makes me feel like a caveman.spark hurt, spark scary
>>109989752polarity is a meme back from the days of tube radios and before appliance classes. It hasnt been relevant for well over 70 years.
>>109989847Polarity happens when some fucker uses just 2 wires and you put it the other way than recommended.
>>109974951odin willing all of you would have been genocided
>>109981169fake af, no asian is that smart
>>109987372Not having polarity is a safety feature, anon. A schuko socket does not necessarily have a neutral wire; it may have two 115V wires with 230V between them. Any schuko appliance MUST be designed with the assumption that BOTH ends are dangerous. Designing for that requirement leads to safer appliances even in the case when one end is safe.
