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/mkg/ - WinkeyLess Edition

>Buyer's template:
http://pastebin.com/33S1gVkG
>Where to Buy:
http://pastebin.com/8Yku80VL
>FAQs:
http://pastebin.com/M5w7QtKp
>Use the buyer's template
http://pastebin.com/33S1gVkG
>Keyset wiki
http://keypuller.com

Previous thread: >>59947514
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fc660c or HHKB Type s?
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Where can I buy a TADA68 with gateron browns? Sold out everywhere
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>>59981575
taobao /item/537653557670.htm
http://kbdfans.cn/products/tada68-mechanical-keyboard-gateron-swtich-65-layout-dye-sub-keycaps-cherry-profils
https://originative.co/products/saber-68
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>>59981555
HHKB if you want BT capability right now
660 if you can wait for BT or don't care about wireless
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>>59981953
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>>59981447
also
>post your mega clack super keyboard of infinite destruction
>are you a virgin
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>>59981575
You mean blues?
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>>59981984
that's a render
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>>59981447
the modifiers are a bit too autismal for me. how about just the rgb modifiers on ctrl+alt+shift
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>>59981658
why is the 660c superior to the hhkb?
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>>59983442
Because it's a much better layout that doesn't force you to go full autism with memorising multiple layers of shortcuts to reach full functionality, and only slightly bigger.
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Ordered the Plum 84 last night, hopefully these topre clones are worth it
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>>59983533
How much
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>>59983572
$97.68 USD

one of downsides is the 5.5u spacebar
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>>59983597
stay mad jelly
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>>59982646
>shitty skin
>shitty hair
>weird-ass clothes
>meme keyboard

This might not be you, but I still ponder why would someone take such a picture, other than for comedic/ironic purposes
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>>59982646
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>>59983657
Link
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>>59983785
they're gone

the blog posts are gone too. the blog post with >>59983657 had no text. the one with rainbow caps said it was just an experiment and you could request other color schemes for future runs.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/double-shot-pbt-keycap-cherry-profile-rainbow-cap-for-mx-usb-mechanical-gaming-keyboard-5-5/32799680240.html
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blue>green>clears>everything>>membrane>browns
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>>59983868
clicky switches are literal meme switches
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>>59983868
>alps
>buckling spring
>below cherry
ok kid
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>>59983926
>>59983868
>cherry
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>>59983769
Ironic to assert than men only have the object in frame when many images in this thread are filled with guns, knives, or other meme shit.
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>>59984211
You mean fags, not men.
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>>59984397
tripfags, to be specific
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I'm looking for a 75% board, so the function keys inline with the number keys like the Plum 84, Noppoo choc mini, etc but with ALL STANDARD keys and preferably fully programmable. If it's not fully programmable I at the very least need to be able to switch capslock and control. Cherry or clone blues
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>>59984110
>implying you meant alps
>implying brown alps are below "membrane" or cherry switches
>implying membrane is a type of switch
>implying you are not a retard
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>>59984513
HOly shit I just saw this https://kbdfans.cn/collections/frontpage/products/kbd75-keyboard-set
I want it so bad, my consumerfag impulses are firing at 200%. How bad is the price? It's fucking beautiful
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What y'all think of Ducky? My friends recommenced them but looking for extra advice. I've been looking at the Ducky One. Is there there anything wrong with it?

but ausfag here, I'm looking for a keyboard thats
>Below 150 dollarydoos
>Doesnt have RGB
>subtle looking
>media controls
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>>59983926
>>59984526
you forgot to call him a faggot over topre being below cherry
unless you put that in membrane :^)))))))))))
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>>59984532
not bad but expensive for gaterons, but still, an overpriced gateron is vastly superior to overpriced cherry, also I don't see any other company providing a same aesthetic/fuctionality
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>>59984602
I love my ducky, been using it for a few months now. One of my favorite things about it is that the keys feel soft and chalky for some max comfy.

Also paid 100 dollarydoos for it so it wasn't too expensive.
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>>59984513
There's no such thing as a 75% with all standard keys unless you build it yourself, they all come with short right shifts and non-standard keys to the right of the spacebar to fit the arrow keys in.
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>>59984602
>>59984734
Ducky is a solid 8/10 keyboard. I love mine and would heartily recommend it.
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>>59984734
don't tell me you're >>59981953
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>>59984776
>>59984734
Cheers cunts
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>>59982646
bae material / 10
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>>59984776
>>59984734
You cunts probably missed the memo but YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BUY THE SMALLEST AVAILABLE KEYBOARD

F keys, arrows and numpads make you look like a fucking loser, tiny keyboards make you look cute and girls will want to fuck you.
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How does /g/ feel about the unicomp
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>>59985640
>>59985469
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>>59982475
No I meant browns
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>>59985469
fuck u
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>>59986367
>unironically using that thing
>in 2017
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>>59986506
>In 2017
>Filename says 2016
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>>59986506
It's built better than literally any other keyboard out there, fully programmable, and weighs like 5KG. I'd choose it over any of my other boards.
Maybe you should buy one instead of thinking you've reached 'end game' because you own a hhkb or something.
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>>59986551
Serious question, why do you care about weight? I've always wondered why Korean custom fags jack off over heavy keyboards so much but they won't tell me
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>>59986585
It's a good indicator that the board is built like a tank.
My hhkb for example weighs very little and it'll make a slight creeking sound if you try to flex it where as my model m's or f's that weigh a lot more wont flex creek at all.
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>>59986629
that's just because hhkb is a meme
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>>59986629
It's not always accurate though, my RS68 is heavier than my WKL board because of its full metal case, but the build quality is lower and it has way more flex because of the thin plate and the PCB only being supported by a handful of spread out screw posts.
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Can anyone ID this keyboard for me?
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>>59986906
Yeh it depends on the internal construction as well but a solidly built case is a good start
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>>59986988
Corsair k70 or the strafe
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>>59986585
Call me autistic, but I use an aluminum case because I think the keyboard has a better sound overall. For me the weight doesn't really matter.
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>>59985640
Shit. Avoid at all costs. Just get a used Model M or check if the group buy for the Model F reproduction keyboards is still going.
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>>59985640
literally the same as a model m
model fs are better
>>59987245
lmao kys
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Does this layout have a name? Want a keyboard with MX Speed (same as MX Silver right?) switches but it doesn't seem to exist.
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where can i get topre PBT modifier keys in red?
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>75%
>Programmable Layers
>CNC aluminum case
>Dye-sub PBT DSA Keycaps as stock
>Comes with optional RGBY modifiers
>Less then $150
So /mkg/ why haven't you bought one yet?
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>>59988616
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Topre-to-MX-adapter-Topre-change-into-MX-switch/2230037_32748140639.htm
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/cherry-profile-keycaps-side-printed-red-esc-white-and-red-for-usb-wried-machanical-gaming-keyboard/2230037_32801848964.htmll
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>>59987245
>check if the group buy for the Model F reproduction keyboards is still going.

It is. Closes on the 30th, although he said he was going to close it months ago.

>>59988576
It's too rare to have a standard name. My coworker has that board and likes it a lot. I'd probably pick one up if it was fully programmable.

Your best bet is probably buying one, desoldering the stock and putting in the ones you want.
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>>59988711
Looks pretty nice, but I'm happy with my Tada68, and I hate DSA profile.
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>>59988711
meh

if someone wants to make a new 75% it should use as standard keys as possible. top row same as choc mini. 2x1.25u to the right of spacebar (or 2x1.5u or 3x1.0u options) and 1.25u right shift (1.75u option). this leaves a 0.5u gap at the arrow keys but it's ok. boom any keyset will fit especially with blanks or if you aren't too picky about the legends.
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>>59988971
and the arrow keys can be centered in the gap so it's only a 0.25u gap on each side of the arrow keys
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>>59988994
>gaps between keys
literally unusable
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do nongamer mechanical keyboards even exist?
im not willing to pay for the "gamer" markup
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>>59989022
a 0.25u gap is almost nothing. you have much wider gaps around the arrow keys on a tkl for example.
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>>59989052
or like 0.25u next to the side arrows
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>>59988971
Its not really new since the original race came out like 4 years ago, but its nice to see these keyboards becoming more affordable. $130 for this compared to the $300+ korean customs with similar build quality, plus It has a function row unlike the tada68.
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>>59988994
and you could move the arrow keys down 0.25u if you want to make it look better from a design perspective like the arrow keys have their own sectioned off area like a shrunken tkl type design
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>>59986200
You mean blues?
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>>59982646
You need to be 18 or older to post here.
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>>59982646
Get a MAGA hat
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So is Elite Keyboards the only source for Realforce keyboards? I'm looking for a 87U 55g in white/gray.
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>>59988711
>75%
I prefer 65%
>Programmable Layers
I'd rather have the kind of capability you see in customs, where you update firmware
>CNC aluminum case
Actually a detriment with portable boards, too heavy
>Dye-sub PBT DSA Keycaps as stock
No thanks, I like my keyboards to be actually functional, and a uniform profile is garbo for usability
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>>59991131
You can go to microcenter since they also have realforce keyboards if you want to test them out in person. There is also ncix and a few other places.
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Why are Topre boards so fucking expensive? I get the whole economy of scale thing, but they can't be that incredibly expensive to produce.
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>>59991269
They are a Japanese product produced in limited supply. Also capacitive sensors are still expensive since the Chinese topre clones cost 80-100 bucks. Even back in the 2000s BTC dome and sliders cost that much.
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>>59991035
I'm not even into keyboards but that looks pretty dope. How much is this?
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>>59992033
~$170 + $40 for caps
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>>59991317
>Also capacitive sensors are still expensive since the Chinese topre clones cost 80-100 bucks

Surely if they get more popular it's cheaper to produce than a mx clone? Less parts?
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>>59991131
>>59991142
Check if they do first. My microcenter definitely does not carry topre.

I picked up my realforce on eBay, $175 for basically unused beige tkl 55g

No reason to pay extra for a new board.
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>>59992284
Part of the cost is due to the design. The rubber sheet has to match the PCB, versus being able to produce a mass of switches which can be soldered on after the fact. So there is less flexibility/reusability of topre components vs MX.

I could envision a rapid price drop if the rubber sheet became somewhat standardized among different cases, but that's currently not the case.
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What switches are good for office use? I am leaning towards browns or clears as blues can annoy the fuck outta my coworkers. Also anyone got any keyboard recommendations for 80-100% keyboard?
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http://matt3o.com/about-mt3-profile-and-devtty-set/
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>>59992417
Any cherry switch will annoy the fuck out of your coworkers, even linear like red/black.

Go topre or go home, it's the only acceptable choice for an office. Don't be that guy who gets a fuckload of attention for using "silent" brown switches that are still 10x as loud as the company issue keyboards.
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>>59992417
All cherry switches are louder then traditional membrane keyboards. Either get a quiet mech like cherry silents if you prefer linears, or matias qc if you like tactile switches.
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>>59992445
you sound like i am in a cubicle, but I am in a office with closed doors. I honestly don't even know if cherry blues will be heard, but I think it is a good idea to be a bit considerate.
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1986 silver labels are the only good Model Ms, everything afterwards is cost-reduced and objectively inferior.
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>>59992417
My 65g Zealios are no louder than my neighbours' OEM dome boards. This is because I don't hammer on my keys and barely bottom out. If I went all-out it would be quite loud.

I actually was a bit worried at first that it would be annoying for them, but even the oversensitive types near me don't notice a difference (or at least enough of one).
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>>59992482
Then you should make enough that you can afford a topre.
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>>59992482
Cherry blues are about twice as loud as a microsoft membrane keyboard that most offices use. Now if the doors are closed then it shouldn't be that much of an issue, but if you want to play it safe, you could get one of these
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/search.php?keyword=&brand=&switch=32&size=&led=&capmat=&capprint=&model=&availability=in_stock_pre&show_kb=off&show_kb=on&show_acc=off&show_acc=on
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>>59992445
>tfw you bring a buckling spring to work but nobody says shit because you carry the team and they know it
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>>59992498
It's because they're too polite to say anything.

Don't kid yourself, those things are loud as fuck by comparison.
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>>59992497
But the Model M is a cost reduced Model F
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>>59992497
Thats not true since the silver labels are cost-reduced units of the original Model Ms from 1985
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>>59992523
I am honestly offended by the notion that my coworkers are polite about this sort of thing. They most certainly vocalise all noise complaints.
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>>59992530
But the Model F is just an inferior cousin to the beamspring keyboards
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>>59992583
But the beamsprings are just an inferior cousin to the Selectric typewriter
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>>59992583
These IBM switches are pretty much shit though. Honeywell hall effects are superior in every way.
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>>59984602
>Ducky

I have a ducky one with browns and a ducky one with blues, they've both been great.
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>>59992601
But a typewriter is just the lazy yet noisy mechanical replacement for a secretary trained in transcription and calligraphy
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>>59985640
breaks in less than 1 year
>>59987333
kys shill
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>>59985640
Feels better than a model M, I've had 3 Ms and 1 unicomp. Unicomp springs are all crisp & consistent because they haven't been rotting in an auto shop for 20 years before making it into the hands of a keyboard autist. Plus there's no need to fuck about with a ps/2 connector.

People claiming the model m is better are nostalgiafags only.
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>>59988576
It's a TK.
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>>59988711

Where can I get this?
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>>59993060
Taobao, I'll proxy one for you for $250.
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>>59993060
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/search.php?keyword=Race+3
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>>59993117
Fuck you, I wanted to make some money off someone who didn't know how to use Google
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Any thoughts about this keyboard ?
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>>59993481
I don't like how many keyboard manufacturers put their logos on the super keys. I get that its done because many of their buyers use operating systems that aren't windows, but it just looks ugly. I do like how the keyboard is understated and doesn't have gaudy lighting. It reminds me a lot of a Ducky One, so I wonder what the differences are.
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>>59993542
Yeah I know, I don't like the super key too but I was probably thinking about buying a new set of keycaps anyway.
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>>59981447
>Estimated ship date is Oct 30, 2017.
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>>59994621
Come back when you wait years for a 7bit GB.
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>>59994716
The funny thing is his GB were delayed cause SP has shit quality control. A lot of their molds are broken, but they wont fork the ~50-100,000 bucks to fix it. As a result he's done working with them. Round 7 will be his last and then he's off to the chinks.
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>>59994881
It's been delayed for quite a few reasons, but it sounds like SP is done with 7bit before 7bit was done with SP.
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>>59985640
If this guy is still around, and if anyone else cares, this is why you shouldn't get a Unicomp. This keyboard new as of Tuesday this week.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjF4tegfT0k
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>>59995143
literally what is this video attempting to show?
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>>59995232
Turn your volume up. The 3 key doesn't click, as the spring bends backwards instead of forwards. The caps for the down key, X key, and a few others will rub up against the spring if not hit dead center.
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https://www.massdrop.com/buy/tai-hao-miami-keycap-set
who here bought these meme-caps?
Do you fell ashamed of yourself you piece of shit?
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>>59995698
i bought these instead.
>1.5mm thick
>blank
>faster shipping
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>>59995719
https://www.amazon.com/Blank-Profile-Keycap-Switches-Mechanical/dp/B06X1D6YBD/ref=sr_1_16?ie=UTF8&qid=1492752403&sr=8-16&keywords=miami+npkc
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hey guise. are we just spectrum technofetishists?
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>>59986367
what are those
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>>59995814
You talk like a faggot and your shit's all retarded.
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>>59984211
Still don't see them sticking their mugs in the photo
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>>59986551
fix the keys on your industrial
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>Budget
~$150
>Location (continent at least)
Eastern US
>Preferred switch type
Soft // medium // tactile // quiet preferred.
>Layout
ANSI
>Form factor
I have a large desk, doesn't matter.
>Backlight
Nice to have not need to have
>Previous/current keyboards
Garbage

Keyboard newfag. Software developer. just built a new home PC and looking to spend more than 30 on a keyboard for once.
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>keyswitch tester coming in the mail soon
My first step, then I have to decide what layout/features I want.
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>>59987049
>isis uses le ebin gamer shit
kekd
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>>59992433
>it’s safe to say that they are “pretty thick” (around 1.8mm).
That's what I wanted to hear.
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>can actually feel the point of actuation on gat reds
How did Cherry fuck up so badly?
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>>59997469
>cherry mx is the most popular switch type
>not alps
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uwd4tR1LbHo

You guys are fooling yourselves why make it harder for you
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>>59989166
function rows are fucking dumb
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Dedicated function rows are a weird thing, fn+number just seems way quicker and easier to do compared to stretching your fingers up four rows away from the home row on a standard board or three rows on a 75% or other compact boards.
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>>59997744
PHONEPOSTERS GET OUT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>59997882
F keys are like foreskins, you're scared to lose them but once they're gone you realize you're all the better for it.
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Are split keyboard good ? Do you know one with ISO layout ?
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>>59998361
Just get used to ansi, much better.
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>>59982646
cringe
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I created a programming layout for qwerty (pic related).
Some interesting stuff: The number row is now primarily for symbols, numbers can be accesses with shifts.
The most common symbols for C/C++ programming are now index,middle and ring finger away, parenthesis lefts and rights are on different hands.
Caps Lock brings back the default qwerty layout.
It's based on us(altgr-intl), the AltGr modifier is preserved for these keys.
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>>59998381
this
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>>59982646
>nose ring
absolutely disgusting -3/10
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>>59998483
ANSI is already a programming layout

the brackets in your layout are all kinds of fucked up
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>>59998381
Sadly I need a french azerty keymap, otherwise people I'm writing to will suppose I'm illiterate.
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>>59981447
I really hate how a lot of keysets don't have any alternative to the Windows keys. I love having a rhombus or diamond sign there like on those old Sun keyboards.
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Why should i buy a mechanical keyboard?
What is the diffrence?
Isn't it an out of date technology?
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>>59998591
it's surprisingly easy to switch. the problem is if you have to switch back and forth between ANSI/ISO or qwerty/azerty frequently but if you always use the same keyboard it shouldn't be a problem to make the switch
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>>59998591
>people I'm writing to will suppose I'm illiterate
Why would they?
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>>59998591
Use azerty ansi.
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>>59998612
https://deskthority.net/wiki/Introduction_to_keyboards
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>>59998640
I'm waiting an answer from an anon.
I didn't ask for a fuckin wiki site.
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>>59998621
I might have missed something but given I'd like a 60% keyboard, a french ainsi keymap would lead to the "<" and ">" keys missing, right ? Otherwise I don't really mind the switch.
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>>59998660
kys
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>>59986200
You mean greens?
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>>59998671
If i was looking for a basic internet "info" then i would google it and then i wud watch a cancer video about mechanical keyboards faggid.
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>>59983868
I've never met anyone who prefers blues to greens. Blues are just shitty greens.
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>>59998709
your questions are too broad. there are many different reasons like the ergonomics, feel, sound, longevity etc. fuck off to reddit if you want people with no lives to spoonfeed you like a baby
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>>59998745
>ergonomigs :DDddDdD
yeah dude

>feel
>sound
uh we wuz hackerz und gamerz und shied

>longevity
implying that he will use a keyboard 10 years and he won't get bored and he won't want much more good "sound und feel" (!)

fuck you.

show me a reason why should i move to mechanical keyboard faggid.
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>>59998823
no fuck off
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>>59998732
>muh greens
nice meme
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>>59998823
I read this post and it seems it's made by someone with an ego
Not him but we don't need to convince you of shit, if you don't want a keyboard don't get one
Now go back to /b/, underage newfag
>>>/b/
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>>59998732
I have never met someone who prefers cherry to alps based switches (or especially the real deal) :^)
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>>59998548
Well, the symbol layout on ANSI is less then optimal though. Simple () parenthesis should be the most reachable, then {}, then []. It's bullshit. Also most relevant symbols are on the right pinky. I think there is room for a better layout. At least for a more comfy one.

And programming dvorak looks god awful.
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>>59997508
THIS
WHY HAS GOD ABANDONED US
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>>59999513
ANSI is pretty comfy imo. i think a split spacebar would be useful so the right half would be a regular spacebar and the left half would be a modifier to type brackets and symbols with on the alphas
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>>59998612
Why would it be? There is still nothing better than Hall effect switches and you can't dig rubber domes. There is also no ergodox/dactyl aequivalent in the rubber world.
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Ok guys, I just bought an AULA SI-2012. I paid $48 dollars and I fucking hate the keycaps.
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>>59999762
>I fucking hate the keycaps.
in what way? anyway good thing they're replaceable
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>>59999819
>in what way?

I hate those little shits that has in the corner of each keycap.

>they're replaceable

I paid $48 dollars for this. And I will feel me a bit dumb paying for new keycaps that probably cost more than the fucking keyboard.
Or maybe I could just get an old mechanical keyboard and just take their keycaps?

Also:
$48 bucks it was a good price?
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>>60000145
You can get cheap PBT keycaps for like 30 bucks. As far as the price goes there are cheaper keyboards like the tomoko, but it looks like yours has a backlight.
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>>60000145
even good quality caps like tai-hao are 30 bucks (40 if you buy international rather than through mk's site)
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>>60000324
backlight?

>>60000358
I would like to have a vintage style keycaps like pic related. Any recomendation? my idea of just take keycaps from an old mechanical keyboard isn't good?
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>>60000430
DSA profile is expensive. Even the cheapest ones are like 40-50 bucks
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>>60000477
Wasn't there some new profile similar to it that's cheaper?
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>>60000491
Yeah thats it. Chink DSA, or XDA is still 40-50 bucks.
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>>60000430
if you are willing to go abs
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=2351
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>>59998663
< is shift+,
> is shift+.
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>>60000430
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/104-PBT-double-shot-injection-backlighting-through-shine-ISO-keycap-LED-translucent-mechanical-legend-IKBC-DUCKY/32604542897.html

it's harder since you have ISO but they exist. not sure how trustworthy this seller is
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>>60001189
this looks nice

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Backlit-108-ANSI-ISO-layout-Thick-PBT-Keycap-Double-shot-Backlight-Keycaps-For-OEM-Cherry-MX/32766080696.html
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Has anyone ever messed around with this or any other modular keyboard?
https://www.pcgamingrace.com/products/glorious-modular-mechanical-pc-gaming-keyboard-full-size-104-key-gateron-cherry-kailh-switches

I know the keycaps are garbage but I would replace them obviously.

I'm afraid the switches will rattle, I guess.
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i just got my tada as my first mech keyboard
how do i learn not to bottom out? i used to hammer my fucking rubberdome but i want to write properly on, cause the gat blues are quieter if they arent bottomed out
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>>60001670
Learn to touch type. Its all muscle memory, so you have to relearn everything.
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>>60002056
that will not prevent the mistypes when trying not to bottom out
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>>59996270
You should try out some switches to see which ones feel good to you before anything. After that, try looking into filco, das, ducky and poker. Filco and das have some good full size keyboards, poker has a nice offering for a smaller form factor and ducky has led backlit keyboards that look great. You could probably get away with picking whichever one looks best out of those with your switch choice
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>Budget
under 200 Euros
>Location (continent at least)
Europe
>Preferred switch type
Non-linear, quieter than blue
>Layout
Don't care
>Form factor
100% preferably, but condensed like a laptop keyboard. Can live with TKL, though.
>Backlight
Would be nice
>Previous/current keyboards
Noppoo Choc Mini. Thinking of replacing it because it has some weird issue where keytrokes are multiplied, especially the 1 and n key. There is no pattern to when it occurs and there are days where I write like a stuttering retard, but right now I haven't had a single issue like that in the last weeks.
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>>60002712
>100% preferably, but condensed like a laptop keyboard
Have there ever been any laptop keyboards with a numpad?
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>>60002737
>Have there ever been any laptop keyboards with a numpad?
Mine, for example. Laptop is shit, though.
Reason is, I have more than enough space for a TKL keyboard like the Noppoo, but just not enough space for a full 100% keyboard and such a condensed one would fit just right.
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>>60002737
Yes, numerous examples.
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>>60000802
Alright, thanks. ANSI broaden my options, so it's really interesting. Still, I'm very curious about the split keyboards. The hand position seems much more natural and probably better for the posture. However, I fear it could be very disappointing. So are they as great as I think ?
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Oh shit, I got drunk some days ago, spilled my drink all over my Model M and only really noticed the next morning, I think this is it.

Rest in peace, sweet prince
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>Budget
I just want the best - not gold plated or otherwise insanely expensive luxury, just the best. Budget should be no issue.

>Location (continent at least)
Norway.

>Preferred switch type
I have no preference, and I understand they are switchable anyway.

>Layout
QWERTY

>Form factor
Numpad is required.

>Backlight
I sort of want it. Not a dealbreaker, but I'd like it.

>Previous/current keyboards
Logitech G15. Membrane keyboard, I've had it for many years now. Served me well, all right to type on, but it fits very poorly with my rollermouse.
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>>60003731
Model M
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>>60003951
Model M is a worse Model F.
>>60003731
https://www.modelfkeyboards.com
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>>60003996
>>60003951
Honestly it's been on my mind

I do use a modern IBM membrane keyboard at work
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>>60003951
>>60003996
My problem with the model M though is that it's a white keyboard, it's prone to get and look filthy over time.
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>>60004093
The case is made from PVC, and the newer model Ms are water resistant. You can easily clean them if they get dusty or dirty.
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>>60004167
I guess - this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rHOAX4FlB4

would be my ideal keyboard. That trackpad tho
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>>60004181
They still make them if you want a new one. I think the all black keycaps cost extra, and while I'm not 100% sure you also have to ask them to not include the windows keys. I know on the normal model Ms there is an option for no windows keys.
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>>60004245
Well, I would want windows keys. They're great for key combinations on my linux box.
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To be honest I think the Model M's are out of the question. While a romantic idea, they aren't easy to get hold of in the way I want them, which is with a Norwegian Keyboard layout.

Gotta have those ÆOÅ's.
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>>60004261
Well they do they sell them with all black keycaps, but I think they look better with the classic white and grey color scheme. They also sell them in ISO if you prefer.
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>>60004310
>which is with a Norwegian Keyboard layout.
>Gotta have those ÆOÅ's.
Well luckily for you they do have them in that layout. I'd suggest you order one without the ugly logo.
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>Budget
$200
>Location
West Coast USA
>Preferred switch type
Blue Cherry MX
>Layout
ANSI
>Form factor
Fullsize or TKL + Secondary Numpad
>Backlight
No / Don't care
>Previous/current keyboards
DAS Ultimate Keyboard, Poker II


Any help is appreciated, my DAS is starting to break down and I wanted to get a new keyboard anyways
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>>60004420
Ducky One with PBT keycaps.
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>>59996088
IBM Model F 4704 107 key
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>>59984776
What keycaps are those? I wanna get em
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>>59981447
SCISSOR SWITCHES ARE BETTER
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>>60004610
Those are the stock ones, hence the Ducky logo.
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GMK Oblivion wheeeeeeen?
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>>60004659
oh shit, just found em thanks
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>>60004718
You can still buy them from Ducky, but they're expensive.
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You guys are probably tired of my stupid 75% related questions but just indulge me once more. I love the 75% layout, it's a requirement for me. I have a Noppoo choc mini in white and it doesn't match my black mouse and monitors and it drives me crazy. The problem is I have to add $30 to any keycaps I buy for custom shifts and spacebar.
The drevo 75% has the same lay out and blue switches and it appears that all the keys are standard. It's cheap as fuck though, my Noppoo was $100. Am I going to be missing out on something if I buy one? It seems to have all the features my Noppoo has.
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>>59994716
*cough*Penumbra*cough*
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brown or red for programming/gaming?
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>>60005090
Blue
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>>60005090
clear
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Just ordered the WASD V2 87-Key with cherry mx red switches. Did I just meme myself?
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>>60005654
yes
overpriced and gaterons are better
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>>60005720
I thought this was fake until I tried Gateron Browns versus Cherry Browns. The Gats were better.

I wish Gateron made a Cherry Clear equivalent though - they're my favorite MX switch.
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>>59992606
honeywell hall effect are linear and fucking boring
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>>60005934
then get the tactile or clicky ones
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>>60005771
>I wish Gateron made a Cherry Clear equivalent though
jewlios but without the unnecessary weight
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>>60006132
Not as nice as beamsprings
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>>60006146
Tried them, nice but not Cherry Clear nice. Or the variant the guy had was just too soft a spring for me.
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>>59982646
Marry m-
>macbook
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>>59991035
fuck off
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>>60007503
Why does he upset you so much? Fucking grow up
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I just got this as a gift, it's not so bad actually, much improvement over the apple magic keyboard, why do people shit on it so much? is it just /g/'s autism or is it genuinely bad?
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>>60007819
A lot of the hate stems from razer switching to a cheaper, "lower quality" switch but keeping the price of the product the same.
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>>60007819
The normal blackwidow is actually a good option if you don't know shit about mechanical keyboards and you're curious about them, but as other anon said the hate comes from them switching from a good switch brand to their own switches
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>>60008019
this is my first mechanical keyboard and it feels quite good actually, my typing speed went from 95 to 105 wpm in one day, plus it feels awesome, and it's not even as loud as I thought it would be, even though this is the clicky version
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>>60008019
>made in china garbage
>costar stabilizers
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>>60005089
Yeah, except your expectation should be to wait years with 7bit from the outset.
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>>60001670
learn to touch type and you'll type lighter automatically after a while but don't expect to not bottom out at all, you'd have to type like a straight faggot to not bottom out at all
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>>60007819
they're not bad just expensive and they have ABS keycaps rather than thick PBT
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>>60008510
Yeah I was surprised to get this for my birthday, it was 97 euros for fuck's sake. Are all mechanical keyboard this expensive usually?
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>>60008529
you usually want to spend at least $100 on a mechanical keyboard. there are lower end ones around $40 but you sacrifice quality and features to get there.
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>>60008529
No just razer. You can get keyboards with kailh switches for 40-60 bucks with much better build quality. That's why we don't recommend them. If you do want to spend 100 bucks then get something good like a Ducky.
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>>60007856
>>60008019
the switch probably isn't even bad like cherry used to be everyone's favorite but then gateron has proven to be better in most people's opinion and you can't equate razer-branded switches to kailh because it's razer's own design and they oversee the production
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Just ordered a Unicomp Ultra Classic to escape the MX Silent shitboard I got with a warranty exchange. Where can I find good keycaps for it? I know buckling springs don't have the range of caps that Cherry memeswitches do but I'd like to customize it a little bit past what Unicomp offers on their website.
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>>60008575
Doesn't matter if they use their shitty molds. At least cherry updated theirs to keep up with gateron.
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>>60008584
Only Unicomp offers keycaps for them. If you want artisan keycaps then you can go on etsy and find a few of them.
https://www.etsy.com/shop/DecentKeyboards?section_id=15982549
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Still working with a venerable G80-2550 from 1998. ANSI level 3, full 122 keys. Clear keycodes that are normally unused, fully reassignable. I dread the day when I finally switch to a computer that no longer has a PS/2 connector. ANSI level 3 doesn't fully connect through your usual USB adapter.
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Are any of the Miami keycap sets shine through friendly?
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>>60008948
Tai hao is thin crap so that should work fine
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heads up, thick weeb keycaps are back in stock at oco.

they got arabic too now
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>>60010237
Since both are made by gateron whats the difference?
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>>60010253
more key compatibility in the kit, different legend colorways
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What about BTC mechanical keyboards?
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Looking for something new.

>Budget:$50-$110
>North America
>Browns
>ANSI
>100%
>Backlight: take it or leave it
>Previous/current keyboards: quickfire rapid blue and that one ibm with rubber domes that feel pretty decent.
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I've got a V60 which has switches mounted reversed so LEDs are on the front of the switch. I want an aluminum case but the only one that appeals to me is the Vortex case which is low profile. I keep my LEDs on lowest setting because it matches my keycaps so I'm wondering how shit a low profile case will look with front mounted LEDs. Thoughts?
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What's the cheapest way to get a 96/97 key keyboard? Like the ones with the numpad but none of that bullshit and dead space in between. I'd be willing to do a kit.

I know I can commandeer the CNC mill at my university if I really can't find a kit, but I'd rather avoid the trouble if I can.
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>>60010952
You can kits from chyna, or if you don't want to then plum makes a 96 key keyboard
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best keyboard coming through
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>>60011068
Where are these chinese kits though? The only one I know of is the rs96 and I can't find it anywhere.
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>>60011125
taobao
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>>60011155
Got anything more specific? Everything I can find is out of stock or done only in group buys.
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>>60010952
There are other korean 96 key keyboards coming soon. There is the AMJ96 is available now and Duck lightsaver V3 dropping soon. The way how you get a lot of these korean is through group buys, and that includes the RS96 and ZZ96. Just check places like geekhack.
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>>60011200
Here is a PCB
https://world.taobao.com/item/523030912258.htm#detail
And here is a case/plate combo
https://world.taobao.com/item/549263079778.htm#detail
Now have fun
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>>59983769
fixed it for you
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>>59992536
i must say (having square label model m from 1986) it is one of the best keyboards ive ever had

that being said i would say it is not the best model m
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>>60011293
more pic's
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>>60011306
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>>60011326
final one, this was from when i unboxed it nearly a year ago
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>>60010237
these keycaps are great.
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Time to spend $200 on keycaps!

I'd be disgusted with myself if I didn't love the beige on beige with yellow highlights look.
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>>60011252
That's foolish and untrue.
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>>60011498
>That's foolish and untrue.
how long have you been browsing /g/?
if you arent dressed in cute clothes while browsing /g/ then you should go bad to our normie board
actually >>60011341 is a prefect example, you can see the girly clothes in the picture
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>>60011535
hey bud
the guy you are talking to is literally the reason that this image exists >>60011252 he has been gunposting for like 10 years thats the joke
how long have YOU been here?
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>>60011567
>he has been gunposting for like 10 years
jesus christ
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>>60011671
Heroes never die!
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holy shit this almost made me vomit
https://imgur.com/a/Fnbam
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>>60011729
Model M users are crazy people, what did you expect?
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>>60011729
The expression of disgust on this performance artist's face is not nearly dramatic enough to accurately describe your link.
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>>60011729
i was prepared for cringe but not for this amount of cringe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=envBUe-_4Vg&feature=youtu.be
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>>60006361
Try these, the articulation is better, but it costs way more money.
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>>60011847
I feel like i would want actuation and bottoming out to be close so i can mentally treat them as one, so i would go with mod-m
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>>60011729
Christ
imagine explaining this to someone you know

>hey todd what did you do this weekend?
oh dude i went and had a birthday party for MY FUCKING KEYBOARD
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>>60011862
Do you know how springs work
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>>60011847

- not everyone likes smooth switches. A little grittiness probably benefits most people's typing accuracy.

- 50 million my ass. These switches have not been through an exhaustive test of this nature. Sure, similar switches from Gateron/Otemu/RandomChineseFactory MAY have been, but these have definitely not. There is a reason high tactility Cherry switches like Clears only have a 20 million keystroke rating...AND if you're soldering them yourself by hand in some enthusiast backplate, there is no way you won't have chattering switches.

And why would you buy anything from Originative? Sherry has a history of being a swindler, these switches yet another example.
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>>59988576
CM call it a tenkeyless hybrid
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>>59988994
>>59989379
similar to pic related but as a 75% board
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>>59993481
Using a quickfire TI right now, it's one of the best cheap keyboard out there. Would recommend
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>>60008591

Cherry has an intentional texture on their stems. Gateron just copied the shape of Cherry and did not pay attention to the subtle engineering Cherry put into choosing this texture.
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>>60012064
>>60012076

I fucking missed out on nerds becoming mainstream when I lived in my room for ten years

Is it too late to meet some nerd chick who will lick my keyboard and write software with me before I an hero?
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What youll think should I keep this set that sits on a board I never use it or sell it for $300?
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>>60012261
Elven Tongue?
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>>60012327

Ye the base set sells for something crazy on mechmarket
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>>59988576
The community calls it a 96-key, most are also built with arrow keys between the shortened right shift and numpad but most have the option to assemble it like that.
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Just ran the gauntlet...why do people freak about it? it doesn't seem as bad as they say. only bad part is when the guy gets "cleaned up"
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>>60012349

Wow, sell that fast, it's ugly. How long before an imaginary elf language falls from the height of ultra-basement-dweller pop culture anyway?
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>>60012261
Sell the fuck out of it if you don't use it, what kind of question is that?

This community I S2G
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>>60012261
sell it.

i was excited when I first heard about that set, but it's way too busy. the sub legends look like ass

>>60012379
>>>/b/
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>>60012421
>Fixed angle
Disgusting board tbqh. Go split or go home.
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>>60012261
sell it especially since you're not using it anyway. for $300 you can get a whole new keyboard or whatever
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>>60012433
>caring about ergonomics
it's all about the meme value, anon
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My Masterkeys S arrived and these silver switches are an absolute gem to type on.

Coming from a Cherry clear. I might be converted to linears because of this. It's so light and nice.
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>>59992686
But a secretary trained in transcription and calligraphy is just an inferior cousin to writing it your god damn self.
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Just got my first mechanical keyboard.
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>>60014556
hot glue it.
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>>60014661
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>>60014671
hot glue that too.
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>>60007518
>triggered
kek
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>>60011498
I POSTED IT AGAIN
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>>60012117
If Cherry's texture is so well engineered, why are Cherry browns such hot garbage when Gateron browns are some of the best feeling switches?
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>>60016127
That's a lie, all browns are garbage.
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>>60016180
Mate, Gateron browns are fantastic. They're a lot more tactile than Cherry's. They're basically lighter Cherry MX clears, which is good.
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>>60016218
Sure anon, you enjoy your polished turds then.
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>>60016340
At least they're not grainy turds.
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can someone explain to me the point of right shift?
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>>60016644
I use it exclusively to make question marks.
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80 wpm with 6 fingers, 40 wpm with 9.
what is wrong with me /g/ :((((((((((
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