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THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH DEBIAN
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solve this
alias feh-fun='feh -t --action ';''feh -F --action1 ';''echo -n "$PWD/%n" | xclip ' -f %L -\| %F''
# 0 a a1 a a2 3 3 2 10
# 0 don't have to be '
# 1 don't have to be '
# a have to be '
# 2 don't have '
# 3 have to be "

>the command should execute feh in thumbnail mode
>`--action` executes a custom command when you click on the thumbnail instead of opening the image
>in this case it executes feh again, this time in normal mode, loading the file list (-f %L) and starting from the selected file (-\| %F) in fullscreen (-F)
>`--action1` makes it so when I press 1 the file path is inserted into the clipboard
>`;` prevents feh from moving on to the next image when the action is performed

your task: properly quote the command string to make it work (like the numbers show)
you can use: `'`, `"`, and `\`, and other kinds of bash syntax, but NO FUNCTIONS

install xclip or just redirect the output into some file or somethig instead of piping to xclip to see if it works
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third for [
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Explain what is wrong with ubuntu except the amazon thing
Is the most compatible linux
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>>59982663
>Is the most compatible linux
??
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>>59982663
GNU/Linux*
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>>59982630
I hate quoting games.
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>>59982672
Linux*
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>>59982671
Is easy to install whatever package you want for example some devices i use like hercules dj mp3 for made mixes meanwhile on gentoo/arch you need to wait to be on repos
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>>59982663
It's a well configured distro, the best for beginners and there's basically nothing wrong to stick to it, when you're intelligent enough not to fall for the company behind it and its philosophy (Canonical).
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>>59982698
GNU/Linux*
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happy peng
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>>59982720
>arch you need to wait
>for anything
kek
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tfw you
emerge --sync
more than once a day
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Reminder we need a source based/binary hybrid distro with a bloatless package manager, a source based base system and kernel installer like Source Mage and a sane binary package management like Slackware.

One reason why is for when Flatpack comes into play the added library hell will start and most popular distros will want you to install libraries you don't want.
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>>59982868
Posted when it was ded:(
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>>59982892
kde neon is an absolutely fine choice
ofc you can go with any distro with the latest plasma in the repos of which there are plenty
Since you'll be using KDE check out okular, it is a great pdf etc. reader. I like zathura myself, but it's a gtk program.
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>>59982883
Just install pkgsrc on Slackware
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Hi /fglt/
Im installing manjaro on my old dust box to play around and experiment, its an old machine, dual core amd64, 4gb ram and a radeon 260 gpu.
should i install the free or not free driver? what are the differences?
also, GRUB (i think) is extremely laggy, like over a second between me pressing a key and it having an effect. Is this normal during installing from a usb or is this how responsive the OS will be when setup?
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>>59982954
>GRUB (i think) is extremely laggy
GRUB_GFXMODE=text

and rerun grub-mkconfig
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>>59982970
Im a complete newbie at linux and dont think installing from a command line is the way to go for me just yet, if its only this bad as it installs im not concerned, i just dont want to continue if the OS itself is going to run like this. Also, can you advise me in regards to the driver issue? free or not free? Ive googled and it seems its the graphics driver, im using an older amd gpu, any idea what would be best?
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>>59982954
Things are much faster once installed.
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>>59982990
Maybe first start off with Ubuntu?

And you'll probably want the not free one for Manjaro. Just means the drivers.
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>>59982948
Not that I don't appreciate the effort from the pkgsrc team, but it lacks things like a kernel installer and a better integration, and Guix is better anyway.
It is a good option I would say, but the package manager from Source Mage is a better alternative, if it only it didn't use such stupid names it would attract more people.
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>>59982663
Bloatware
Installing some packages takes too much effort compared to Arch's AUR
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>>59982990
No, it's only the boot menu that's gonna lag, not the OS itself. No idea about the radeon drivers
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>>59983014
>>59983067
Ok so ive changed the language settings and chose my drivers, theres no 'continue' button, am I right in assuming the 'Reboot!' option will continue the install?
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Anyone know if there's a way to use a different bar than default with XFCE? I wanna use either lemonbar or tint2 and don't know how I would do it.
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>>59983085
I would guess not. Why not go Ubuntu, then it says Start Ubuntu or something like that.
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>>59983085
If there's reboot button that would mean installation is finished (normally - I've never installed manjaro)
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>>59983147
He's still in GRUB. Trying to find the launch from USB button.
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I just installed debian with gnome de
The font rendering in both firefox and chromium is terrible
How do I fix this?
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>>59983194
Got an example? I use Epiphany on my laptop (don't do that on Debian, highly insecure), and the fonts look fine on default settings. Don't have Firefox to test though.
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sorry for the phone screenshot, no other way I could take it while booting.
why does this happen? and is there a way to fix this? I tried setting quiet boot parameters in the grub config but this still appears every time I boot.
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>>59983163
>>59983147
>>59983118
It appears to be installling, lot of text flying by on screen, about 80/20% of getting green [OK] and red [*]
how worried should I be?
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>>59982663
Unity? But it's dead now.
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>>59983253
That's just systemd when it isn't suppressing the messages. Should only take a second.
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>>59983252
fukkensaved
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>>59983252
Check the log?
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>>59983252
A E S T H E T I C
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Been dicking around with graphviz, pretty cool thingy tbqh.

#!/bin/sh

printf '
digraph {
node [fontname = "Liberation Sans"] {
"GNU/Linux" [style="filled", color="red"]
node [shape="box"] {
"GNU/Linux" -> "Debian"
"GNU/Linux" -> "Arch"
"Debian" -> "Ubuntu"
"Ubuntu" -> "Trisquel" [style="bold", color="blue"];
"Ubuntu" -> "Mint"
"Arch" -> "Parabola" [style="bold", color="blue"];
"Arch" -> "Manjaro"
}
}
}
' | dot -T png -o out.png
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manjaro installer hangs part way through, brb geting mint.
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>>59983468
install Void
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>>59983452
use ids faggot

digraph { a -> b -> c; a [label="foo"]; b [label="bar"]; c [label="baz"]; }
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>>59983539
>Void
why?
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>>59983468
mint is broken
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>>59983554
Thanks, bby.
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>>59983147
You haven't even booted into the live environment yet. Highlight 'start from usb' or whatever it says. The installer is in the live environment.
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>>59983569
>runit, minimal and fast init/service solution
>no systemd bloat
>actually minimal, unlike arch
>uses libressl instead of shitty insecure NSA-backdoored openssl
>binary packages with a great package manager
>easy to install
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>>59983569
autism, don't fall for it
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>>59983601
this is a good reason

>>59983619
this is bait
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>>59982892
I think I've changed my mind about kde, I'm thinking to use something even more lightweight with as little dependencies as possible?
What about XFCE is it good what are the alternatives? As I said in my post I just care about programming on desktop and nothing else.
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mint is broken, brb getting void
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>>59983639
BTW the void install is nowhere near as easy as he says. It isn't hard but configuring your network can be complicated (if you aren't on Ethernet). You also have to install a DE yourself. Just pick one and then install it, following the post install guide.
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>>59983569
>>59983601
>>59983629
which one?
amd64 dual core cpu
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>>59983652
You mean void is a better arch? Why isn't more shilled here then?
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>>59983653
as in which image from this page
https://repo.voidlinux.eu/live/current/
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>>59983664
im thinking probably one of the x86_64 with xfce...but what is the 'musl' part of the file name referring to?
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>>59983637
It doesn't matter, none of this matters. There's nothing stopping you from having multiple DEs installed and just choosing the one you want to use depending on your mood. On my first go I installed ALL of the DEs.

You are aware that you can have multiple DEs installed and all you have to do to switch between them is log out and pick the one you want from a menu and log back in right?
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>>59983671
>musl
autism
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>>59983687
helpful
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>>59983671
Musl is an alternative to the gnu c library. Glibc is pretty bloated, and musl is much more minimal, but barely anything works with musl. Stay away from it.
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>>59983619
This seriously.

>muslc meme
>yet another package manager that isn't functional like nix/guix, literally a meme and unnecessarily reinventing the wheel
>lolnopackages

If you don't want to use systemd, run gentoo or duvian. Stop enabling memes. Void will die out like the Solus meme because it's just that a fukken meme boys.
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>>59983671
I'd just get the 64 bit one without a DE. AFAIK even if you pick a live USB with a DE, it won't be installed by default.
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>>59983747
This. I like maximum security too, but the idea is to keep a system running.

>>59983755
>yet another package manager blah blah blah
This is bait, don't fall for bigots telling you we don't need to be a step ahead on package managers.
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>>59983755
Devuan is a total meme. It's still in beta. If you actually want to not use systemd, don't use a distro that is a fork of a systemd distro.
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>>59983784
No, I agree with devuan. is the thing I use when in a rush and totally works.
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>>59983773
Void is not a step ahead on package managers. It's unnecessarily reinventing a legacy packaging method. If you can't recognize this you deserve Ubuntu for your own safety.
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>>59983799
Is called testing waters you ignoramus, void explored the idea of using github as a repository and also other stuff like the init system etc. I don't care if they fail, as long as some improvement is made it benefit us all.
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What's the best IRC daemon to use?
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>>59983820
This. I'm happy to keep using void until it dies. Hopefully never.
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>>59983820
What improvements will void bring? LibreSSL maybe, the github idea is pointless, instead they could have done the same but implemented a build system from git to RPM/DEB instead of obsessively reinventing the wheel.

Oh wait, it already exists, OBS.
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>>59983878
It's one of the only distros to use libressl. It's one of the only distros with Runit, which is amazing (the best part for me). Runit is fast, minimal and simple.
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>>59983878
>the github idea is pointless
4U

>a build system from git to RPM/DEB instead of obsessively reinventing the wheel.
>OBS
Now that is interesting, you should stop talking crap and give these kind of info instead you lazy faggot.
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>>59983747
>le gnu is bloated meme
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>>59983755
alpha channel edition
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>>59983927
GNU is ridiculously bloated and inefficient.
Proven with statistics here:
www.etalabs.net/compare_libcs.html
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>>59983956
use bsd instead
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>>59983956
>>59983964
fuck off, your flamewars aren't funny and never were
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Anyone using Firefox Beta from mozilla.org?
Does it auto update like the Developer edition?
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>>59983755
>>59983945
>the little space in the inner hole of the disc
fixed
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>>59983956
Coparing LOC/size makes no sense. You need to read the source and check why there are more LOC and what they represent: Features, checks, efficience, lots of comments so newcomers can hack around.

>>59983964
>bsd
Good example. Compare GNU cat to BSD cat: GNU cat seems to have more LOC and therefore must be bloated, but when you look at the source code, you see why: GNU cat carfully calculates the optimal block size and reads/writes shit in chunks (which makes it a lot faster), than the more simple BSD version, which reads char by char. All this is also well commented in the source code.

tl;dr "GNU bloat" is a meme
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>>59984135
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_philosophy
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>>59983784
>It's still in beta.
It's in RC stage though
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Linux is proof the fins, not germans, are the purest of whites.
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>>59984191
people need to move on from unix simplicity
keeping things simple is good but things should also be efficent

it's not like that gnu adds useless crap
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I upgraded (or tried to) my jessie stable to stretch testing. All seems fine, except that some xfce4 font related settings got screwed.
The labels of the desktop icons aren't centered, xfce4-terminal has 0 padding between the menu items (most software is fine), directory labels are misaligned...

Deleting my ~/.config/xfce4 did nothing.
Any ideas on what component is screwing up?
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>>59984191
You are not understanding the philosophy, it is the sum of its part what makes a unix-like OS so great, therefore having a stripped down' application is essential to keep a system compatible to change and to reduce interdependency.

>>59984233
Sorry to hear about your butthurt.
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>>59984272
This >>5998423 has been around for months.
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>>59984233
BSD is constantly cucked, NIntendo and Sony are doing great things with the code and not contributing shit back. Cuck license.
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>>59984222
The name behind GNU is not implying to leave the unix philosophy behind, it was named to make clear it was not the proprietary unix.

>>59984283
Oh, I see.
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How would I go about giving my i3 windows 5px borders, and no titlebars?
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How do I setup a repeating job in void linux?

I have a shitty one-liner using sensors and awk that logs my CPU temperature to a file, now I want to poll it at regular intervals (say, every 5 or 10 seconds). The only way I know how to do something like that is through the crontab, and it doesn't seem to be available to me.

This honestly makes me wish there was a /sfglqt/
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>>59984669
>How do I setup a repeating job in void linux?
https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd.timer.html
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>>59984715
>void linux
>systemd

Please try again.
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How many of you guys work in gnu/linux in a development setting? I was thinking of getting a new windows desktop and booting some distro to use. Weighing between that and a mac osx which is more familiar but too expensive.
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>>59984759
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anyone using a ~23" 4k monitor? im curious how much scaling needs to be applied with a ppi of 180-190 and does it work in general?

>>59983468
or use ubuntu's network installer and build your i3 on that
>>59984669
cat .bin/repeat
#!/bin/bash
script && sleep 10 && .bin/repeat

could this werk desu?
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>>59984854
turns out the ssd in the macine i was planning to run linux is dead so theres nothing happening for today. what do you mean i3? not the intel chip i presume?
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>>59984669
can't you use cron? isn't that what it's there for?
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>>59984764
stop using malware as operating system
wipe everything and install gnu
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>>59984854
I guess that script would work, but there must be a cleaner way to do it

>>59984879
I don't seem to have a crontab though. I have an /etc/cron.daily directory but that's it.
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============================
>>> ARCH WITHOUT SYSTEMD <<<
============================
yes void is nice but you can have arch with no systemd too like me

1/ https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/runit/
>makepkg -cirs

2/ boot with
init=/usr/bin/runit-init


/3 now you can safely get rid of systemd
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/eudev-git/
>makepkg -cirs
done

/4 get most of these
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/?O=0&SeB=nd&K=nosystemd&outdated=&SB=n&SO=a&PP=50&do_Search=Go
for Xorg you need only xorg-server and xorg-server-common - delete the rest in the pkgbuild if you dont need them
>mine for reference
   pacman -Qqs nosystemd
dbus-nosystemd
libpulse-nosystemd
libutil-linux-nosystemd
mkinitcpio-nosystemd
procps-ng-nosystemd
util-linux-nosystemd
xdg-user-dirs-nosystemd
xorg-server-common-nosystemd
xorg-server-nosystemd


/5 runit 1 2 3
check either void or obarun github before you restart

>libsystemd.so.0 error
rebuild using aur or abs disabling lib/systemd flags
>notable mentions
>qt5-base mpv
for mpv there is mpv-light in aur

>>59984875
the wm https://i3wm.org
i ment you can have a minimal (ubuntu) install and build whatever you want on top of it kinda like manjaro

>>59984993
sry desu not a hax0r
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>>59985065
pic related was about ubuntu

forgot, before /2 do /5
ie cp obarun boot scripts at least to boot then proceed
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>>59985065
Forgot to add: I'm on Arch, if it matters.
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>>59985065
>funtoo without systemd
# epro mix-ins +no-systemd


Don't get why funtoo isn't more popular here, it just werks
and it is still a meta from source distro.
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>hating on systemd
Fucking autistic freecucks wonder why no one will ever take them seriously. The majority of distros are now following a common standard and you retards are whining for no reason.
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>>59985402
how is systemd hate related to "freecucks"?
systemd is free software, pleb
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>>59985379
How is funtoo different to/better than gentoo?
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>>59985379
I love Funtoo, but I got real tired of waiting for shit to compile after using it for a few years.
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>>59985590
Do you not have access to Google?
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>>59985590
It uses git instead of rsync for portage
they have a bunch of riced stage3's for specific arches
the creator of gentoo left and made funtoo

I will say the Funtoo specific documentation is of lesser quality but I think that
is because most of the Funtoo users use the Gentoo wiki.

some of the tools in the funtoo project are great and honestly just make sense
like boot-update which is a wrapper script for setting up boot loaders
or the whole epro system.


>>59985626
I picked up a Ryzen cpu so compile times are fine for now, but yeah I can see
how compiling could get old.
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>>59985642
>he uses google
cuck
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>>59985806
Nobody uses Google. Everybody uses the word Google. Only faggots say cuck.
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>want to make ncmpcpp always start on a specified desktop
>have to get its title or class properties
>it's xfce4-terminal in my case because it's a n ncurses program
>can't do it because it will make all my terminals start that on that desktop

How can I solve this? Is there a way? I assume that there's no way to start ncmpcpp "on its own", because it has to run inside a terminal emulator due to the ncurses interface.
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>>59985906

I'm using the technique known as "greentexting" where you use the greater than sign, commonly used for quoting text, to tell a story in short points.
That's a very common sight on 4chan. You must be new here. I can't believe I just logged in just to type this comment.
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Who already installed gentoo, help me to finish my script please?
On my machine it works fine, but I'm not sure about others.
It's small, less than 150 lines of 'code'.
https://github.com/DmitryHetman/gentoofetch
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How do I set things up so that gnome-keyring is unlocked upon SSH login using RSA keys?

Using mint 18 if that makes any difference.
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>>59982478
Hey friendly gnu/linux guys. I'm a noob to linux, but im slowly learning my way around raspbian whilst doing a project which involves turning a raspberry Pi into a torrent machine controlled via SSH.

Since im SSHing to the pi, the only way to operate is via terminal.

Thus my torrent client needs to be able to be operated via terminal.

I got to a point where I have deluged ( a torrent client) setup in terminal via it's deluge-console. However it just not work.

it downloads 1.8MiB and then stops.

I'm certain I have my download directory set up correctly.

I have access to the internet on the pi.

Also worth mentioning I'm connected to Sweden.ovpn.

How do i torrent via terminal only?
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>>59982478
This might be more of a /sqt/ post, but here goes:
>assembling my first computer
>never tried windows 10
>gaining a bit of experience with UNIX systems from some CS classes
>want to try installing my first distro but not sure what to choose

I know Mint as the "linux for people who like Windows"
And then the bigger distros like Ubuntu, Debian, and Fedora.

Should I just stick with one of those for now? I have an interest in machine learning/deep learning. Are there any geared towards that similar to how backtrack/Kali is geared towards pentesting?

Is there any difference between installing Windows 10 first on an empty SSD followed by a linux distro, or instlaling a linux distro then windows 10. I've heard windows 10 doesn't play well with installing new OSes? Might be just a meme.
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>>59982847
what sort of keyboard is that?
>really long enter key that takes up multiple rows
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>>59986649
Usualy it's better to install Windows first.
Whatever you do, the distribution don't matter that much when you're a beginner. You'll fond the same software
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>>59983104
From the Arch wiki:
"To launch custom applications when Xfce starts up, click the Applications Menu > Settings > Settings Manager and then choose the Session and Startup option and click the tab Application Autostart. You will see a list of programs that get launched on startup. To add an entry, click the Add button and fill out the form, specifying the path to an executable you want to run."

in the settings disable xfce4-panel on startup and replace it with tint2 or whatever
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What is the Linux alternative to the image viewer "Honeyview"? I tried GPicView but it sucks dick and chugs when trying to rapidly browse through images, regardless of their size
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>>59986791
>the image viewer
sxiv
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>>59986649
Install Fedora Rawhide - very recent software, good package manager.
Use F2FS filesystem on SSD.
Machine leaning should be all fine on Fedora.
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>>59986791
eog
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>>59986641
aria2c
btdownloadcurses (part of bittornado, install under this name from apt)
aria is simpler but supports magnet links.

Alternatively, set up rtorrent properly with a good web-based GUI. There should be a tutorial for setting it up on debian, check <insert search engine here>.
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>>59986791
I'd just like to interject for moment. What you're refering to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called Linux, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called Linux distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux!
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>>59986821
>noob
>recommends rolling release

jesus christ

>>59986649
Install the Fedora 26 alpha if you want bleeding edge or just stick to Fedora 25 and do the normal upgrade
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https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Microsoft_fonts#Using_fonts_from_a_Windows_partition
Is there a way to do this without having the Windows parition plugged in at all times? Or will it just copy them over once? The wording makes me think that it will only be able to access them if the Windows drive is plugged in, I want to avoid that if possible.
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>>59986999
why not just install the fonts

http://mscorefonts2.sourceforge.net/
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>>59986965
Are people getting banned for this pasta yet?
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>>59986999
just copy the fonts you want from WINDOWS\Fonts to ~/.fonts and do a fc-cache

fontconfig works just fine with windows' font formats.
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>>59987016
>taking away people's freedoms because they posted about freedom
Are you Korean, perchance?
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>>59987014
>any linux distro that uses RPM
That's one reason, and the other is that since I literally have the drive with all the fonts I want and use sitting on my desk right now so I might as well just directly copy them.
>>59987030
So I could do this without even plugging both drives in at the same time?
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>>59987051
yes. Just copy in the font files (usually .ttf or .otf files) to the .fonts directory in your home (create one if you don't have one already) and run fc-cache as I said.
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>>59987051
>any linux distro that uses RPM

Are you a full on retard? Extract the fonts from the rpm and put them in your fonts folder, jesus christ I hate nu-/g/
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How/why is it that windows shits the bed on certain things compared to Linux? I recently replaced my i7 setup with a Ryzen r7-1700 and of course, different motherboard to match. I know that the former Intel build has many drivers and motherboard components that are a bit different. I tried booting my old windows install for shits and giggles, instant BSOD.

I then booted my Linux Ubuntu install, and after about 15 seconds of grub telling me "unknown hardware detected" it booted right up. Ran a standard "sudo apt update" and the formerly undetected CPU was now fully named in screenfetch and the like. Are drivers and such not as deeply integrated in Linux as they are in windows? Or is it something like Linux can pick and choose which driver to use for the new device, while windows has it's drivers baked into the OS itself?

Oh and I managed to get some files i forgot about from my old windows install before I zero wiped all my drives. Thanks Ubuntu!

Pic semi-related. My new CPU.
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>>59987072
Ok, thanks.
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>>59986991
>>59986821
Why Fedora over Ubuntu or Debian? I'm not sure what the finer differences are. Or what the all have to offer.
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>>59987223
Ubuntu is just a Debian derivative

Generally what new paradigm makes it into Fedora ends up in every other distro (systemd, selinux, wayland, gnome, etc) so you get a head start on learning new software that will eventually be used on all distros. Ubuntu tries to make its own software (upstart, unity, etc) and FAILS every fucking time.
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>>59987097
>Linux Ubuntu
>Ryzen r7-1700
You basically *have to* install gentoo, 0 reason not to
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>>59987051
dude just get liberation and do this https://github.com/bohoomil/fontconfig-ultimate/issues/191#issuecomment-289799221
it would be faster than selecting and coping fonts from windows i've done it

>>59987097
ryzen needs latest kernel 4.10 iirc
at least get 17.04 buntu
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>>59987033
At this point, that stupid copypasta accomplishes nothing but trolls people who know the definition of an operating system.

It's a shitty meme that takes up too much space. Not sure if you're aware, but 4chan is not free. There are rules, and as far as I'm concerned, this copypasta is spam.

You want to talk freedom? Get rid of the friendliness rule and I'll take you seriously. I honestly believe that /fglt/ encourages the use of copypastas because it bumps them faster.

That being said,

>>59987097

It's hilarious that Windows is such a complete failure these days when it comes to compatibility when that was the whole point of it to begin with. I actually get bluescreens from using a thumb drive after the Win10 upgrade.
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>>59987270
But Why anon?
>>59987397
Yea I was still running Ubuntu 15.10 that I upgraded to 16.04. Just wanted to see if it's even boot at all. The fact that it did and windows didn't is what prompted the question. Is 17.04 stable enough for daily use? Any major issues?
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>>59987263
Alright, I'll go ahead with Fedora 25, then. Thanks anon.
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>>59983252
Fix this?
I wanna know how to make this happen on my PC
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>>59987451
>Why
The only significant downside of using gentoo which is long compile times will be largely mitigated
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>>59987460
If you don't like GNOME (I don't) try the Cinnamon or MATE spins.

Cinnamon=more resources, a little prettier, similar to windows 7

mate=less resources, more traditional, similar to xp
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Ok, installing i3-gaps on my debian latop. The first time I install it, it worked fine. I had to reset my computer and I decided to install it in /etc. Trying to start it up through "startx" and all that displays is my current directory. Could it be because I installed it in /etc? Where should I install it if I wanted to neaten things up
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Why can I Ctrl+Rightarrow and Ctrl+Leftarrow to move to the previous / next word in nano when I'm at work, but not at home? Do I really have to get used to Ctrl+Space and Alt+Space?
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>>59987680
/etc is for configuration

you should be installing in /usr/local or /opt
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how do i rice ranger
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why are numbered files always sorted like
10.png
11.png
12.png
...
19.png
1.png
20.png
21.png
...
29.png
2.png
30.png
31.png
...
36.png (last one)
3.png
4.png
...
8.png
9.png

how do I fix this?
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recently i tried to install Steam on my bro's pc.
i spent on it about 1h cuz its install in ~/ (!) additional libs thate broke gamez. is gaben idiot?
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>>59988649
sort -V
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>>59988649
What soft are you using? I'm interested. It's the sole correct way to sort files.
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>>59985065
You are too late, arch is dying and you can't save it
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>>59988784
feh and ls

>>59988706
trying to figure out how to make this work with feh
this doesn't for some reason
feh -F "$(ls | sort -V)"
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>>59985806
I unironically recommend using YaCy instead
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Post bash scripts!

https://github.com/richman-stallard/bash-scripts/blob/master/.bashscripts
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>>59988898
kektop.sh from a few threads earlier:

#!/bin/sh

# kektop v0.2 (c) Anon, GPLv3+

while sleep 1; do
printf '\r%d keks' \
"$(
ps aux \
| awk '{ print $2 }' \
| grep -Poc '\d+(\d)\1+'
)"
done
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>>59988959
A script that counts the number of currently running processes whose ID ends with dubs, trips, quads etc? What's the point?
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>>59989062
What's the point of life anyway without fun?
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>>59985065
I use Archbang (OpenRC)
This hardware is junk but I figured I'd do at least SOMETHING with it. Just got it set up now.

Going to be setting up an array eventually with less detrimental legacy hardware
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>>59988898
colors() {
f=3 b=4
for j in f b; do
for i in {0..7}; do
printf -v $j$i %b "\e[${!j}${i}m"
done
done

rst=$'\e[0m'
bld=$'\e[1m'
inv=$'\e[7m'

cat << EOF
${rst}
${f0}█ ${bld}█${rst} ${f1}█ ${bld}█${rst} ${f2}█ ${bld}█${rst} ${f3}█ ${bld}█${rst} ${f4}█ ${bld}█${rst} ${f5}█ ${bld}█${rst} ${f6}█ ${bld}█${rst} $f7█ ${bld}█${rst}
${f0}█ ${bld}█${rst} ${f1}█ ${bld}█${rst} ${f2}█ ${bld}█${rst} ${f3}█ ${bld}█${rst} ${f4}█ ${bld}█${rst} ${f5}█ ${bld}█${rst} ${f6}█ ${bld}█${rst} $f7█ ${bld}█${rst}
${f0}▓ ${bld}█${rst} ${f1}▓ ${bld}█${rst} ${f2}▓ ${bld}█${rst} ${f3}▓ ${bld}█${rst} ${f4}▓ ${bld}█${rst} ${f5}▓ ${bld}█${rst} ${f6}▓ ${bld}█${rst} $f7▓ ${bld}█${rst}
${f0}▒ ${bld}█${rst} ${f1}▒ ${bld}█${rst} ${f2}▒ ${bld}█${rst} ${f3}▒ ${bld}█${rst} ${f4}▒ ${bld}█${rst} ${f5}▒ ${bld}█${rst} ${f6}▒ ${bld}█${rst} $f7▒ ${bld}█${rst}
${f0}░ ${bld}█${rst} ${f1}░ ${bld}█${rst} ${f2}░ ${bld}█${rst} ${f3}░ ${bld}█${rst} ${f4}░ ${bld}█${rst} ${f5}░ ${bld}█${rst} ${f6}░ ${bld}█${rst} $f7░ ${bld}█${rst}
${rst}
EOF
}
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>>59988898
help needs some love too.
help() {
command help -m "${@:-$(</dev/stdin)}" \
| grep --color=always '^[ A-Z]\+$\|\s\+-\+\b[^ ]\b\|$' \
| less -R
}
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Hello /g/, first time posting, been lurking for about 2 years now and have been using Ubuntu for a year. I feel like I have become a bit more competent with Linux and want to try something new and refreshing. Which distro should i move to next?
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what image viewers do you guys use?
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>>59990545
>I feel like I have become a bit more competent with Linux and want to try something new and refreshing
My mind literally cannot comprehend this statement. If it just works, what do you need to change?
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>>59990545
gentoo
>>59990581
feh
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>>59990586
I want to learn more? Hands on approach?
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>>59990611
SourceMage
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>>59990611
>I want to learn more?
Learn WHAT? Is there something you want to do but can't due to your operating system?
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Anyone does gaymen on a VM?

Really tempted to go to Linux but I'd like to play some vidya every now and again.
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>>59991050
I do, but it's visual novels or doujin games. Never tried something that requires passthrough although it seems to work quite well.
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>>59991129
Yeah was thinking of pass through, I'm in the situation where I hate how my comp looks and feels but still have shit on it.
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>>59983252
Wtf...
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>>59991154
Why not just dual boot?
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>>59991164
Hell, if he has room in his case he could unplug the Windows SATA and just swap between G+L and Windows that way. No chance of GRUB problems.
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>>59991164
Feel like that defeats the purpose.
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>>59991200
It really doesn't. Windows is better for certain tasks just as Linux is. If you want to game use Windows. If you want to do everything else without having NSA rootkits installed on your machine at the OS-level use Linux.
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>>59991181
So instead of partitioning the same drive you just give them their own dedicated drives?
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>>59991218
>Windows is better for certain tasks
>If you want to game use Windows.
It's not better, if anything it's worse. The only reason there are more games and other stuff for windows is microsoft lobby.
Not an windows matter.
Windows design is a disgrace, from a technical standpoint it's the worst major OS.
Excellent example are the oceans of money microsoft spent to port it to mobile.
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>>59991218
Was looking for a more.... Flush solution
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Gentlemen,

I want to install Linux for a buddy. He's never had any exposure to Linux, so since I'm familiar with Debian, I'll be putting Deb on it. My retard question is: What Desktop/Window manager should I put on it? Cinnamon? Mate? XFCE?

Specs:

2-core 2.66 GHz
2GB RAM
160GB HDD

Any preferences? I'm spoilt by i3, but he's really new to it.
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>>59991324
>freecuck chimping out because he can't handle reality
Using Windows is better for gaming. Deal with it.
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I want to have my own IRC server. What's the recommended one?
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>>59991345
MATE, just werkz
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>>59991347
Didn't say it wasn't dumb proprietary poster.
I said it's not an windows matter. Windows is not technically better for man-childism.
It's just microsoft lobby.
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>>59991357
Good, thank you!

Also, as a side note, he gave me a HUGE piece of junk with 32MB of RAM and 1GHz processor. Seriously, not much use for him, but I could do something with it... Maybe not much, but something.
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>>59991322
I already had a dedicated Win7 drive full of files years ago before I installed Arch so I just bought a second hard drive to have less of a headache with the install dealing with partitions and the possibility of wiping all my data. Now whenever I want to play a game or something I just unplug the Arch drive and plug the W7 one in before booting. Not the most convenient but the side panel of my case doesn't attach properly anyway so I just leave it off and it takes less time than selecting boot media in the BIOS.
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>>59991347
Who are you quoting?
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>>59991386
Just use it as a glorified microcontroller at that point and use it to turn on lights or open your garage door,
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>>59991347
Good job pajeet. 5 poos have been deposited into your loo account.
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>>59991391
But you could just plug them both in at the same time and select it on bootup, right?
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>>59991409
"poo" is poop. What is a "loo"?
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Looking for an IDE to use on Ubuntu. I use C++ mainly.
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>>59991405
Hue. The RAM is expandable (A LOT), but it only boots from motherfucking CD or a IDE drive. I'll see what I can do with a noisy system like that.
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>>59991427
British slang for toilet. Poo in loo is an Indian meme.
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>>59991415
Yes, either by selecting it through the BIOS or as the second option in GRUB. But I've never used a drive that was partitioned to be half and half, only two different drives so I don't know how reliably it would work since I've heard Windows updates will nuke GRUB.
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>>59991345
Voting for xfce. Install the graybird theme and elementary icons.
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>>59991432
clion
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>>59991386
Isn't that kinda way toooooo little ram for 1ghz?

Try DSLinux, TinyCore or Puppy.
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>>59991495
I'm giving up on a GUI with that 32MB one, it's literally what the buddy handed to me. I'll get him Deb on all, one with CLI and two with Mate or XFCE (I've got two of those Dell 2.6GHz towers)
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should I install gentoo?
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>>59991585
Yes.
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>>59991576
Those distros can run a gui just fine with 32mb. Tinycore is only 11mb.
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>>59991585
no
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>>59991649
Ah, I didn't know that. Then again, there's XP running on it with seemingly no problems, so what do I know? I'll give it a shot.

(That stuff even got a fucking Phone WAN port - which I actually use - so it's hella cool)
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>>59991585
Arch is about as deep into "autistic loser NEET whose time has no value" territory as you should ever go.
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>>59991677
>(That stuff even got a fucking Phone WAN port - which I actually use - so it's hella cool)
You have to be 18 to post here.
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If I want to maximize how big of a faggot I am, should I write in Haskell or Rust?
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>>59991734
I think the only real use for Haskell is if you use Xmonad and related programs.

Rust is pretty useful and will make you look like a massive faggot while you're at it.
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>>59991585
I have a low opinion of Gentoo GNU/Linux.

Gentoo is a GNU/Linux distribution, but its developers don't recognize this; they call it "Gentoo Linux". That means they are treating me and the GNU Project disresepectfully.

More importantly, Gentoo steers the user towards nonfree programs, which is why it is not one of our recognized free distros.
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>>59991792
No, Richard, it's 'Linux', not 'GNU/Linux'. The most important contributions that the FSF made to Linux were the creation of the GPL and the GCC compiler. Those are fine and inspired products. GCC is a monumental achievement and has earned you, RMS, and the Free Software Foundation countless kudos and much appreciation.

Following are some reasons for you to mull over, including some already answered in your FAQ.

One guy, Linus Torvalds, used GCC to make his operating system (yes, Linux is an OS -- more on this later). He named it 'Linux' with a little help from his friends. Why doesn't he call it GNU/Linux? Because he wrote it, with more help from his friends, not you. You named your stuff, I named my stuff -- including the software I wrote using GCC -- and Linus named his stuff. The proper name is Linux because Linus Torvalds says so. Linus has spoken. Accept his authority. To do otherwise is to become a nag. You don't want to be known as a nag, do you?

(An operating system) != (a distribution). Linux is an operating system. By my definition, an operating system is that software which provides and limits access to hardware resources on a computer. That definition applies whereever you see Linux in use. However, Linux is usually distributed with a collection of utilities and applications to make it easily configurable as a desktop system, a server, a development box, or a graphics workstation, or whatever the user needs. In such a configuration, we have a Linux (based) distribution. Therein lies your strongest argument for the unwieldy title 'GNU/Linux' (when said bundled software is largely from the FSF). Go bug the distribution makers on that one. Take your beef to Red Hat, Mandrake, and Slackware. At least there you have an argument. Linux alone is an operating system that can be used in various applications without any GNU software whatsoever. Embedded applications come to mind as an obvious example.
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>>59991700
Well excuuuuuse me for being amazed by a blast from the past. Contrary to what some may believe, I don't collect 2000's tech for fucking fun.
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>>59991792
Next, even if we limit the GNU/Linux title to the GNU-based Linux distributions, we run into another obvious problem. XFree86 may well be more important to a particular Linux installation than the sum of all the GNU contributions. More properly, shouldn't the distribution be called XFree86/Linux? Or, at a minimum, XFree86/GNU/Linux? Of course, it would be rather arbitrary to draw the line there when many other fine contributions go unlisted. Yes, I know you've heard this one before. Get used to it. You'll keep hearing it until you can cleanly counter it.

You seem to like the lines-of-code metric. There are many lines of GNU code in a typical Linux distribution. You seem to suggest that (more LOC) == (more important). However, I submit to you that raw LOC numbers do not directly correlate with importance. I would suggest that clock cycles spent on code is a better metric. For example, if my system spends 90% of its time executing XFree86 code, XFree86 is probably the single most important collection of code on my system. Even if I loaded ten times as many lines of useless bloatware on my system and I never excuted that bloatware, it certainly isn't more important code than XFree86. Obviously, this metric isn't perfect either, but LOC really, really sucks. Please refrain from using it ever again in supporting any argument.

Last, I'd like to point out that we Linux and GNU users shouldn't be fighting among ourselves over naming other people's software. But what the heck, I'm in a bad mood now. I think I'm feeling sufficiently obnoxious to make the point that GCC is so very famous and, yes, so very useful only because Linux was developed. In a show of proper respect and gratitude, shouldn't you and everyone refer to GCC as 'the Linux compiler'? Or at least, 'Linux GCC'? Seriously, where would your masterpiece be without Linux? Languishing with the HURD?
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>>59991838
>Yes, I know you've heard this one before. Get used to it. You'll keep hearing it until you can cleanly counter it.
https://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-linux-faq.html#many
stop
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>>59991345
I'm on KDE myself.
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>>59991824
jokes on you, I'm not really Richard Stallman
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>>59991865
>It can't be fair to give all the credit to one secondary contribution (Linux) while omitting the principal contribution (GNU).

I use:
musl
busybox
bsd
as my userland
Yet it still called Linux


>believing the mentally insane diatribes of a bird molester pedophile

Stop
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>>59991900
y so mad tho senpai. Linux will always be Linux. GNU will always be GNU. GNU/Linux is the combination of both.
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>>59991911
But forcing it to be called gnu is improper(since rms seems to love this word).It is improper to assume or other wise force it to be called gnu/Linux,when in fact it isnt.
You freetards love "oughts" so why dont you "ought" to belive there are other options?
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>>59991900
musl is called musl
busybox is called busybox
linux is called linux
the collection of these isn't linux
linux is a kernel, musl a lib, busybox is a collection of unix-like tools
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>>59991946
all of which replace gnu.Making the system gnu free.
So it isnt gnu/Linux, its Linux
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>>59991942
Nobody is forcing you to call a system that isn't a GNU system "GNU/Linux". The combination of your programs is something different, why would anyone force you to call it something it isn't? Windows isn't GNU either, but the GNU system is the GNU system, combined with Linux, it's GNU/Linux.
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>>59991981
It's linux. Fat man hasn't contributed to the industry in 30 years and is inadequate, so he has to come up with some way to keep him self viable.But in reality he is old and antiquated in the industry, grasping for any tiny bit of recognition.

It's Linux.
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So I'm going to install Void Linux.
What am I into?
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>trying to install mesa
>finally get ./configure to stop complaining, it configures correctly
>make
>fatal error: #include <gelf.h>: gelf.h: no such file or directory

Fucking niggers. More eloquently, how would I go about debugging this and getting it to work?
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>>59991838
>>59991824
Torvalds actually agrees: In the 1991 release notes for versions 0.01 to 0.11 of Linux (which was not released under the GNU General Public License until version 0.12), Torvalds wrote, "Sadly, a kernel by itself gets you nowhere [...] Most of the tools used with linux are GNU software." https://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/Historic/old-versions/RELNOTES-0.01

Torvalds also wrote during the 1992 Tanenbaum-Torvalds debate that, "As has been noted (not only by me), the linux kernel is a miniscule part of a complete system". https://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.minix/msg/ac1b04eb0e09c03e

This was ofc before he realized that calling it "Linux" will give him more shekles.
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>>59992063
use your package manager
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>>59992043
Nice timing, here's what's waiting for you >>59992063

That aside, so far it seems really nice.
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>>59992079
But what if I have no package

Unless I'm just not finding it. What is it usually called? I'm using void linux (with xbps).
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>>59992107
>void
void is void of packages.
Get a real distro

Alternatively dont be a faggot and learn how to build a package for your package manager
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>>59992065
>This was ofc before he realized that calling it "Linux" will give him more shekles.
that's actually a problem, see what happens to the "windows subsystem for linux", which is basically gnu with zero linux, but companies think it's interesting and invest into the linux foundation (and maybe canonical), while again gnu is omitted entirely
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>>59992118
>learn how to build a package
Is that actually better/easier than just building the software?
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>>59992063
I am not an expert but it clearly states that you are missing a header file.
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where can I buy a laptop that's 100% linux compatible?

I don't need nothing fancy, I have a windows pc I use for games

this will be to carry around and do stupid shit (gaming not included)
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>>59992237
buy anything, preferable something that doesn't need proprietary drivers
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>>59984715
What's a picture of Satan doing in a fglt?
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>>59992139
Yes
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>>59992342
>>>/r/eddit
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>>59992153
Thank you very much. Unironically.

After a long time installing stuff I saw make die and just shut down into "whoops, that's an error, better go cry in the corner because I can't install it now" mode. Your comment made me google the name, I downloaded and compiled libelf, and compilation of mesa is going along just fine right now.
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>>59992350
Oh the irony
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did filecchooser anon finish his feh script?
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>>59990581
gpicview

>>59990545
build your own using http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/17.04/ mini.iso

>>59991050
possible but not trivial
check out qemu's mailing lists

>>59991386
check picrelated >>59985065

>>59992237
hp dell chinkpad with intel secondary parts mostly wifi
free radeon driver is good so either intel or amd gpu
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>>59990581
mpv
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How hard is LFS, really, if you're willing to read some wikis and google stuff?

Surely it can't be much more involved than something like gentoo.
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>ubuntu chooses gnome instead of kde
don't they understand that normies want thumbnails in their filepickers?
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>>59992423
>google
botnet, use searx
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pavucontrol maxes out at 100% using the slider on my headset,but it goes all the way up to 150% in the interface,how do i emulate the extra 50%.
Im using pulseaudio-ctl to emulate key presses but it also caps out at 100%
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>>59992457
The gtk file picker has thumbnails but KDEs has full blown image preview as large as you feel like making the preview pane.
Its incredibly useful for previewing images before you post them.
Every file picker should act like that.
>>59990581
sxiv is the best. the only flaw is that it doesnt use the -a flag by default(animate gifs), and it doesnt let you cycle through every picture in the directory by default(achieved by a script which I Have aliased to 'img', and also to make it always use -a).

how do I make unifont the default fallback font for japanese, by the way, with fontconfig?
My terminal doesnt have font options and keeps falling back to some ttf sans serif font instead, even after I put it at the top of all the lists in nonlatin.conf
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>>59992531
pactl set-sink-volume @DEFAULT_SINK@ 150%
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>>59992544
I want to be able to scale up like it is now.I dont want everything at 150%.
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>>59992469
>missing the point so hard
These days "to google something" overwhelmingly means "to search for it online".

Nobody says "I'll yahoo it", "you should duckduckgo it", or "let me searx it".

None of that pertains to LFS
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>>59988959
>>59989062
Make it display the processes too or kys
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>>59992635
>ddg
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>>59992635
everytime you say "google" you're shilling it for free
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>>59983687
Retard you can't statically link glibc.
That in and of itself is a reason to use musl.
Plus musl has had C11 threads for a while and glibc still doesn't have them last I checked.
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>>59983662
Too many Red Hat shills and ricer garbage.
Ricers like the whole Linux is a desktop operating system bullshit so they fall for the systemd meme.

Also I'm 97% sure Poettering posts here.
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>>59992744
>>59992761
autism
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>>59992661
No one needs to 'shill' 'google'.It is popular enough as it stands and no one gives a shit
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>>59983652
>configuring your network can be complicated
You literally just use wpa_supplicant. It's the exact same process as on any other distro. If you've never used it before there are 8999 guides around, including on Void's own wiki, in the installation (or post-install) page no less. What are you talking about?
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>>59992796
>It is popular enough
thanks to you
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>>59992775
Is this the new
>anime website
?
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>>59992801
Thanks to spending millions of dollars in the 90's and the early 00's on its hardware and its depth scanning technique. This is why its popular, not because someone on a no name imageboard says the term 'google'
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>>59992802
nice trips
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>>59992855
nice meme
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Any tips for decreasing browser memory usage? I've always been using chromium, I know it's never been great at memory management but 32GB of ram is excessive. I try not to run too many extensions or scripts and have tried ones to help but those only seem to just kill the tab. I do use a lot of tabs averaging around 600-1000 depending on how busy the day is which makes single threading chromium not an option. Is firefox better for this or is there something else to consider?

And I do run servers that parse website content to monitor stuff for me, I've already reduced how many tabs I need but that's a number that keeps growing
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>>59992761
>Poettering posts here.
>mfw he's behind anti-systemd posts in systemd threads
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Im trying to get either Ubuntu or Manjaro on the new XPS 15 9560 and cant get either on the machine with adequate drivers for the killer wifi adapter(Ubuntu)/nvidia drivers(Manjaro) and the machine doesnt have an ethernet port. Any pointers?
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>>59993508
s/Windows/malware
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>>59993533
*install = gentoo
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>>59993533
Get them on a USB stick. Ubuntu: use dpkg -i. Arch: install gentoo.
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I'm planning to learn emacs. I've gone through a bit of the tutorial but it's got me thinking. Should I dive in headfirst to vanilla emacs or just jump to some faggots config and trust it's good before eventually customizing it for myself as I become more accustomed to emacs?
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>>59993660
Just dive in brobro. Trial by fire. Look up some example .emacs file examples to customize what you've got cooking
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Redpill me on KDE plasma. I just swapped to it and it's so nice, the customization is way better than Gnome.
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>>59993850
You just redpilled yourself m8
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How to use elogind with runit?
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>>59994000
What have you tried so far?
Have you made a service file?
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>>59993850
its extremely comfy and customizeable and the best choice in heavy DE.
Itd be the perfect DE if it was alot more lightweight.
I still miss dolphin and the kde filepicker in firefox since switching to a wm.
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Looking for an easy lightweight distro for my older netbook. LXLE worked fine in the past but it would be nice to use a distro that comes with XFCE. Any suggestions?
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>>59994127
i was thinking about it but found no info neither from void of guix
do i just make run with exec elogind in it?
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>>59994235
Yeah but make sure it runs in the foreground too.
I don't know elogind but usually there is a command line action to run the program without forking. Look for something like --no-daemon or --foreground or something.

If it doesn't there is a tool called fghack that might work but YMMV.
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>>59994224
debian + xfce
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>>59994307
already downloading that at the moment :)

still not sure if I want to try that or just do manjaro...
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>>59994330
Debian is junk, 100% chance that you'll have a better time on Manjaro.
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>>59994000
For me it didn't require any effort.
>sudo xbps-install gnome
>elogind is installed
>gnome works with either gdm or exec gnome-session
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>>59994467
how insensitive, delete this right now
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>>59994467
but debian is great.
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>>59994000
>>59994490
btw if you want gnome on Wayland/gdm you need to
# ln -s /etc/sv/gdm /var/service
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>>59994504
It's just Deb now
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I've got like bare minimum detection of a drive here. BIOS doesn't see it, can't mount it at all, can't format, make partition table or anything. fdisk doesn't see it. hdparm does though, but I can't erase it because of mysterious input output errors.

udisks sees it, tells me there's a bad sector, SMART datas literally not even there.

Is it dead or something?
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>>59994467
this is wrong
debian is a very good distro.
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>>59994527
Why do they patch everything for no good reason? Why do they ship Chromium with the ability to use extensions disabled? Except for the 3 bullshit ones they put there of course.
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can someone explain how the grub hd0 stuff works? Why don't they just use /dev/sdxy?
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I'm pretty new to GNU + Linux. I sometimes remotely access my PC's terminal by typing on my phone "ssh 192.168.1.4" and then putting in my password. Is this insecure? Am I doing it properly?
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>>59994506
not that simple desu
something will error with libsystemd.so.0
not sure which pkg and flag to fix
wayland on arch without systemd is impossiburu

i just wanted rootless xorg
i like gnome but too much ram
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>>59994522
I'm having nearly the same problem with an old 2TB drive. it only occasionally shows up and trying to format to ext4 causes gparted to crash. currently trying to do it manually in the terminal but it's just hanging. I think it may be borked.

>tfw the 2 WD greens in my NAS are nearly 6 years old

any day now
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>>59994647
Are you using eudev? Try installing the entire gnome metapackage. It has a lot of bloat but might need something that GNOME requires without systemd. AFAIK I also sometimes get a libsystemd error but it still works.
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what does the e in eudev and elogind stand for?
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>>59994680
extracted I think.
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>>59982478
Just got an old Acer netbook, with 1 GB RAM and a sizeable HDD. Comfy size.

It has an Intel Atom processor, so I'm looking for a very light distro to put on it. Lubuntu is okay, but if there is a lighter distro that has a browser, I'd be welcome to it.

Pic related, Acer Aspire One.
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>>59994708
acer guy here, just saw this post and reply
>>59994224

I'll try debian and xfce if it's lighter than Lubuntu
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>>59994708
Antix linux.

Very, very light but completely functional debian.
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>>59993381
Let your distro manage its memory the way it was created to. It knows how to manage it way better then any placebo you think needs to be applied.

Read this,yes read it linux or not
linuxatemyram.com
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>>59991865

God damn, haven't seen a sandwich man meme in like 10 years. Good on you anon.
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>>59994754

I second this, antiX is stable and makes sense.
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>>59994708
Install Void. Then install dwm.
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>>59994993
dis
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inlcude new pasta in the op gnu/linux sempaifam

============================
>>> ARCH WITHOUT SYSTEMD <<<
============================
yes void is nice but you can have arch with no systemd too

1/ https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/runit/
> makepkg -cirs

2/ runit 1 2 3
check either ignite, void or obarun github for boot script inspiration BEFORE you restart

3/ re/boot with kernel parameter
init=/usr/bin/runit-init


4/ now you can safely get rid of lib/systemd and libgudev
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/eudev-git/
> makepkg -cirs
done

5/ get most of these
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/?O=0&SeB=nd&K=nosystemd
>mine for reference
pacman -Qqs nosystemd
dbus-nosystemd
libpulse-nosystemd
libutil-linux-nosystemd
mkinitcpio-nosystemd
procps-ng-nosystemd
util-linux-nosystemd
xdg-user-dirs-nosystemd
xorg-server-common-nosystemd
xorg-server-nosystemd


5.5/ rootless X
see elogind

>troubleshooting libsystemd.so.0 error
rebuild using aur or abs disabling lib/systemd flags
>notable mentions
qt5-base mpv - both have aur pkgbuilds
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>>59995051
>fucking around to use arch without systemd

what's the point. brb writing guide to use gentoo without portage
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>>59994993
idk antiX looks a little better than Void desu. Any reason to use it over anti?
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>>59995083
The point is to remove systemd, which is replaceable,unlike portage.Nice try though
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>>59995083
>what's the point.
n o s y s t e m d

but everything else and because pkgbuilds are already available doing this is trivial
>brb compiling gentoo
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>>59995111
arch is the showcase distro for systemd though.
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>>59995124
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>>59995124
New thread
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>>59995127
I think thats fedora. Thing is arch doesn't owe you/me anything but we are free to use it if we can make it werk for us.
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>>59991324

>Windows design is a disgrace, from a technical standpoint it's the worst major OS

As opposed to what? Linux? Wake up friendo, the Linux kernel isn't magic either. If you bothered to look into the differences between both operating systems you would see both of them have their merits. Stop being such a fanboy.

>Excellent example are the oceans of money Microsoft spent to port it to mobile.

What the fuck are you even talking about? It's literally Windows NT and Windows core architecture (Networking, Filesystem etc..), with a mobile interface. That Microsoft invested money in developing Windows for mobile devices means nothing.

Why is /g/ infested with all these kiddies that can't think for themselves?
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>>59995295
>merits
Name some besides games and game hardware.
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>>59995406

Most people on /g/ won't care about these things because they generally do not use them.

Powershell is probably one of my favorites. Objects > Text, especially now with Powershell 5 (Oneget is integrated by default allowing for modules to be downloaded from PSGallery or other repos of your choosing)

Group policy is a big one, I have yet to see a comparable solution that allows so much control and enforcement over the operating system configuration.

Event logging, this is probably more of a personal preference, but I tend to prefer the Windows security event/Regular event logging to normal Unix style syslogs. It's more organized and usually more verbose.

Most of the other things are Enterprise related, not really applicable to the discussion.
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>>59994467
rude




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