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First for vintage Seiko sweaterposting.
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>>59994015
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>>59994057
does this also have the jap days or nah
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>>59994122
As far as I am aware, all vintage JDM Seikos had English/Kanji day wheels.
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I have a Citizen I just bought. Roman numerals for the hours but its missing a stroke on the III, so it goes "I II II IIII V" etc. Return it or worth something?
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R8 my watch
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I'm in Tokyo and looking for an upgrade from my osamacasio. Budget about ¥15000 max, what models of Japanese makers do you think are worth checking out in the price range? Any stores I should visit besides plebby Yodobashi?
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I got this Gant watch from my boss yesterday, anyone know the name of it?
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>>59994945
It's gant, duh.
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Going to buy a few non-homage, non replica/fake pieces from China. Wish me luck.
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>>59994700
Who the fuck wears a watch like that?
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>>59994980
You mean loose?

Adam Savage wears his PO chrono pretty loose too.
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>>59995012
It's nearly falling off in the previous picture. Wearing your watch so loose is retarded. I don't really care about Adam Savage.
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>>59995028
It's pretty common.
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thoughts on longines?
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>>59995050
I know, I still think it's maximum retard.
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>>59995050
reagan died in a diaper
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>>59995065
Good shit, especially vintage.
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Thoughts on NOMOS?
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>>59995068
It's really comfortable for hot climates. As you sweat your watch can move to new places on your arm, allowing the sweat to evaporate and keep your wrist dry. Keeping your watch in one spot will get annoying.

Also, your wrist expands and contracts during the day, so if you always want it decently tight that means it may get uncomfortable when your wrist is at its biggest. If you allow it to be more comfortable when your wrist is at its biggest it will end up being loose when your wrist is at its smallest.
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>>59995103
Overpriced, especially for how simple the design & finishing is on their watches.
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>>59995105
Eh, I live somewhere quite warm, and I've never had any issues.
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>>59995103
Shit for the price.
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>>59995115
Well you may be more used to it I guess. When I was in India I wish I would have had a loose bracelet. Place was like a sauna to me and all I brought was a watch on nato. When I fly to LA or something I'm always going to have a loose bracelet.

When my wrist is at its smallest I'm able to push on the watch to slide it to the inside of my wrist, but when its at its biggest it wont move on it's own even a little, not even up and down my arm, and no way I could turn it to the inside.
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LIs it true that leather straps are more dressy than bracelets?
That doesnt really make sense to me
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>>59995173
I guess it makes sense for you, then. My wrist doesn't expand or contract nearly as drastically in different temperatures, either.
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>>59995186
They can be, depends on the watch.
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>>59995173
fuck off ninefag
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>>59995186
Something like a dark croc strap definitely is. Why do you think you only see calatravas with croc straps?
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>>59995186
The idea with being dressy is being understated and clean. What's more understated, a nice black or brown leather strap kind of like your belt and shoes -- or a bracelet, often with multiple facets and polished and brushed surfaces that sparkles and shines?

>>59995200
What seems to effect wrist size the most for me is activity level. If I were out running or working out, shit can get tight real fast.

May have to do with the fact that your forearms are one of the main places your body dumps heat in exercise afaik.
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>>59995247
I'm generally wearing vintage or mechanical pieces, so I usually take them off if I'm doing anything more stressful than yard work.
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>>59994015
I can't afford a date just so I got this off a watch forum for $30.

I like it
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>>59995608
Fakes and "reps" are for faggots.

KYS
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>>59995623
It's a waltham not an actual fake
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>>59994277
The w-59 is superior to the f-91 in every way and no one realizes it
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>>59996023
>no EL backlight
That would be the W-86, but for whatever reason it's only available in the UK or some shit making it more expensive. Took my ass forever to find one local. Fly as fuck.
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>>59996071
I'll admit I didn't even think about the backlight but that thing is ugly as sin
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>>59996223
Compared to the other? You're kidding.
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Small detail in GS manuals is that they only guarantee part availability for 10 years post manufacture.

That is essentially two services. Only idiots put money into purchasing a vintage GS.
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>>59996507
It's not so bad if you service your own shit and source parts from eBay.
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>>59996507
>seiko discontinues a movement right after you buy one
>spare parts also self-immolate as soon as this happens

This is why you should research any vintage watch, from any brand, before making a purchase.
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>>59996023
>doesn't have it's name on the front
nah
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>>59996507
>they're called watchmakers but won't make new parts when spares run dry
wew
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>>59996507
>Only idiots put money into purchasing a GS.
ftfy
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>>59996507
I couldn't find a new 7S26 mainspring barrel for my 7019, only a used one. The 7S26 is being shat out by the millions, literally what the fuck?
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>>59995608

Good deal
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>>59994015
>Keywords to keep the chink anon away:
>Taiwan Real China Kuomingtang Google Free Tibet Tenzin Gyatso Dalai Lama Twitter Facebook

It's not working because I'm not Chinese you flaming faggot
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>>59994117

These TAGs are growing on me. I could have gotten a quartz one locally for €350
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>>59996630
Very good image, just replace the "Archie Luxury Fan" part with "/wt/ autist" considering not all of the autists who hold those opinions like archie.
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>>59994700

I have a fat as fuck friend who wears his Rolexes like that. He tells me he paid for the whole watch so he doesn't want to keep part of it in a draw. I think he's just too dumb to remove links.
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>>59996642
Agreed, I absolutely love my Tag. Gets so many comments.
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skx007 or skx009?

I'm afraid the black one would look boring irl, but my brother already has the blue/red one.
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>>59996574

Send it to this guy for repair https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlyNICm2N9k
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>>59996673
Tag shitter bros.
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>>59996694

007 looks better
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>>59996720
The black isn't too bland in person?
Never seen a 007 irl.
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>>59996673
>plastic quartz Tag Heuer
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>>59994945
Model number D09-5h17
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>>59996694
The black one looks great in person if you just get a nice bracelet or something for it.
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>>59996729
>>>59996720 (You)
>The black isn't too bland in person?

It's the most classic colour. Literally goes with everything.
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>>59996700
>be watchmaker
>get a Seiko as a fun project
>send it to another watchmaker
Yeah, no, even if Bong Watch Tutorial-sama is an infinitely better watchmaker than my beginner ass.
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>>59996071
How much was it? I just ordered one for £12.
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So many watches sold for gold
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>>59996852
>>be watchmaker
>can't get parts
>can't feed family
>die

R.I.P
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>>59996888
its truly a sad thing
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Why don't more companies try to do Spring-drive like movements? That shit is genius.

pic is not SD watch
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Opinion on H. Moser and Cie?
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I'm looking for a black Orient watch that would look good with both formal and very casual clothes.... And I'm someone who didn't own a watch for 20 years.

Mako, Ray, or diver?

Or maybe something like this :
i21.servimg.com/u/f21/18/66/29/28/er020010.jpg ? How do you call this kind ?
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>>59996926
who
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>>59996888
Was that GS at least worth more as a whole watch?

Some guy brought in a hundred year old women's watch with the case being made from paper-thin 14k gold plate to sell the gold. I subtly told him to get the fuck out and find a collector to sell the whole watch to.

Destroying watches by pawning the gold and silver is an atrocity and shouldn't be legal.

>>59996903
>check Cousins
>haha no fuck you
>check Ebay
>haha no fuck you
>check parts bin
>haha no fuck you
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>>59996929
Orient Bambino, pick one from the metric shitton of dial versions and colors.
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>>59996666
>I have a fat as fuck friend who wears his Rolexes like that. He tells me he paid for the whole watch so he doesn't want to keep part of it in a draw.

HAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>59996978

This is the same guy who doesn't use credit cards online because he's paranoid about people stealing his money.
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There should be an exception to the no replicas rule in order to save all these beautiful original watch dials (discarded after their owners sold the cases for gold) from ebay.
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>>59997086
These should be called aftermarket or third-party cases.

But these dials are good if you want to replace say a water damaged dial.
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>>59997001
At least that's a valid concern.
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>>59997086

This Tudor case and movement is Rolex and fits that size.

Would it be considered a Franken?
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>>59997454
Yes and no.

At that point Tudor got their cases from Rolex. So technically it IS a Rolex case.
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>>59996888
Me and my family were going trough some tough times recently and we sold a gold jlc memovox because we live in a poor country and no one was gonna pay for an uncertified swiss watch of that type.
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So where should I go if I want to discuss actual watch repair? A place that doesn't have the usual forum drama/power struggle/mod powertrip horseshittery? watchrepairtalk.com, WUS, or something else?
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Is it still possible to get a Milgauss """Homage""" on AliExpress?
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>>59997829
We have a watchmaker who often visits these threads.
And a few hobbyists, so there is some discussion to be had, but nothing that can be held over time like it can be in a forum thread.
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>>59997846
Yeah. Good amount of non knock off watches on Ali as well.
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>>59997852
>We have a watchmaker who often visits these threads.
Yes, me. That's why I'm asking, I'm all alone, THE Watchmaker-anon doesn't seem to be around anymore.
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>>59997855
Please post link
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>>59997877
Haven't got one for the homage, I just know I've seen some in the last few days.
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>>59996507
Wrong.

They guarantee parts availability for 10 years after the movement type is discontinued, not after it is made. Furthermore, spare parts are not commonly used in a regular service for competently designed movements and thus the spare parts supply typically lasts for a few decades past the guaranteed period.

Vintage Grand Seikos, like any other vintage watch, require a solid understanding of the particular model being sought and it's repairability before purchase. Do not blame vintage Grand Seiko for your failure to do your own due diligence.

T. Vintage King Seiko Special owner

P.S. the Lemania 5100 is from safe, easy to get parts for ETA and why don't you try and see how easy it is to get L5100 parts these days you lying shitposting asshole
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>>59995103
>>59995110
>>59995122
Here are the simple facts: Nomos are literally the first new company to develop the capacity to design and manufacture mechanical movements including escapements on a series production basis since the 1960s. They join Raketa, Vostok, Orient, Citizen, Seiko, ETA and Rolex as the only non haute horlogerie companies capable of this.

Developing this capability took a several year and ~12 million Euro investment in escapements and a further ~2 million Euro investment in designing the ultra-thin DUW 3001 calibre. These are enormous investments from a company with an annual sales volume of 10,000 - 20,000 units, and as a result must necessarily be reflected in increased unit prices.

In an affordable luxury watch market heavily dominated by Chinese-cased ETA-powered marketing-driven shitters, any watchmaker that makes the investments required to become a manufacture and actually increase the technical diversity of series produced mechanical movements should be applauded no matter whether you like the aesthetics of their product line. To the extent that Nomos succeeds by following this path, it may serve to encourage more investment in the technical aspects of watchmaking by other companies rather than just investing in more value engineering (i.e. cost-cutting) and more advertising.

Just in the last 10 years we have gone from a $1,000-$4,000 market where every single watch was powered by an ETA movement to one where you can now choose between ETA, Tudor, Nomos, and Seiko (8rXXs, 8LXXs). How can this development be regarded as bad for people interested in horology, regardless of whether you would personally buy any of those watches yourself? If only Miyota and Seiko would add micro-adjuster models to their ebauche offerings and Tudor would begin to use their in-house movement in more models, we could return to an era of real competition in movements in production watches not seen since the glory days of the 1970s.
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>>59998012
Still shit for the price.
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>>59998012
I applaud their philosophy on movements, but I think they're retarded for only making countless variations of bauhaus.

If you've seen one bauhaus watch, you've seen them all.
And bauhaus looks like shit to a lot of people to begin with.
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>>59996630
>>59996659
Except that /wt/ is one of the few places that mostly shits on the marketing driven pleb catching brands that take generic ETA movements and shove them into Chinese made cases.

Also that image uses a Rolex and those are 100% made in Switzerland.
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>>59996694
Pepsi is for goobers
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>>59998024
>>59998031
Look, I don't like their watches aesthetically and would never buy one but as far as value goes they can only be measured against ETA, Rolex/Tudor (in-house only) and Grand Seiko as those are the only other companies offering high-end production watches.

In light of the massive investments Nomos had to make in their movement design and manufacturing relative to their production volumes, their was no way for them to avoid their current pricepoint.
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>>59997877
Here you go. There's a cheapo one that's like pic related when it arrives.
http://s.aliexpress.com/NJzeMbii

And a more expensive Parnis one.
http://s.aliexpress.com/RfeURBVF
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>>59995050
>>59995012
my mum wears her watches like that
it either means she's based or Adam Savage and Ronald Regan are women
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Why dont you guys just get a Casio? Whats the point in jerking each other off by commenting on inaccurate, expensive mechanicals? I adjust my digital quartz shitter once a year to greenwichmeantime dot com and have a multifunctional watch with alarms, a stopwatch and a timer.
>inb4 b8
>inb4 normie reeeeee
>inb4 muh heritage and engineering
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>>59996918
Piaget does one.

>>59996926
Shit company. Some of their watches are good.
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>>59998194
They're fun
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>tons of features (titanium, 500m water resist, top-tier ETA movement)
>still looks kinda like a Rolex homage

Convince a recovering in-house snob to buy this over something like a Seiko SKX.
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>>59998238
Also
>extremely cheap for those features
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>>59998238
The titanium is shit
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>>59998262
You mean the type of Ti they're using?

It's a cheap tool watch, so that's not a huge seal.
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Are there any non-shitty smart watches yet
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>>59998295
>non-shitty
>smart watches

Pick one.
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>>59998238
>>still looks kinda like a Rolex homage
By what measure?
The generic diver dial?
The generic case?
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>>59998309
It's virtually identical to the Steinhart Ocean 1 which is an explicit Submariner homage.

Only difference is the hands.
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>He doesn't wear his $20,000 watch on a NATO in case of spring bar failure.
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>>59998194
STOP LIKING WHAT I DON'T LIKE
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>>59998194
I feel bad for your pupper for having such a normie owner.
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>>59998336
>dressing down my suit with a NATO
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>Steinhart doesn't even have a wikipedia page

What kind of operation is this anyway?
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100bucks.
thermometemememoter.
co-co-co-compass.
preferably g-shock.

advice.
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>>59994862
Bump, basically looking for something like a 007, which apparently isn't made anymore? Went to a few shops today but couldn't find anything cool yet.
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Is the Daniel Wellington classic a good watch to start with for a male poorfag, or is it already a joke to start with?

Also, can I buy/change the pointers or do I have to go to an expert for stuff like that?
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Anyone know of an affordable watch that looks like pic related? Something minimal but not bland.
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The ultimate j*wish red-pill.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LMs6smUWBI
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>>59998866
That not minimal.
I find the Seagul 1963 remiscent of the numbering and been tempted to pull the trigger for a while.
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>>59998794
>Is the Daniel Wellington classic a good watch to start with
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>>59998866
One of the new enamel presages, there are also two three-handers.
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>>59998912
Well, can you recommend something better then?

Essentially, I just want a minimal/bauhaus watch for Office that doesn't rape my portmanteau...
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>>59998238

Thats clearly a jlc master compressor homage
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>>59998866
Tisell
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>>59998976
DW is $5 aliexpress shit with a $100 price tag. So even the no name $5 minimalist chink watch is better than that.
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>>59997982

http://www.seikowatches.com/support/ib/pdf/SEIKO_9S85_GS.pdf

○ SEIKO makes it a policy to typically keep a stock of replacement parts for this watch for 10
years. Replacement parts are those which are essential to maintaining the functional
integrity of the watch. Please keep in mind that if original parts are not available, they may
be replaced with substitutes whose outward appearance may differ from the originals.
○ Depending on conditions of use, accuracy may not be recovered after the watch has been repaired.


If I had just spent $8k on a high-beat watch, this is not what I would have expected. It is always worthwhile reading manuals first when you can.
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>>59998976

Enter a seiko store, and ask them to show you all the automatics they have, pick one you like the most

this will be the only non meme advice you will get
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>>59998976
If you give a damn about anything other than looks, search orient/seiko 5 lineup for a design that you like.
Otherwise get a timex weekender or buy that DW fake from aliexpress.
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>>59998976
You can always get a Sea-Gull if you don't mind Chinese stuff (as you were going for a DW, I suspect you do not).
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>>59998976
>Well, can you recommend something better then?

http://www.good-stuffs.com/Smaller-35mm-Bauhaus-hand-winding-mechanical-watch-Sea-Gull-ST17-modified_p_310.html

http://www.good-stuffs.com/Golden-Vanilla-hand-winding-mechanical-wristwatch-retro-styled-2016-edition_p_311.html
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>>59999147
Again, that is 10 years after they discontinue making the movement, and again, since it is not typically necessary to replace parts at regular services, that stock of parts can be reasonably expected to last 20-30 years rather than the 10 that Seiko guarantee.

Under the current state of movement tech, Grand Seiko has no reason to replace their 9sXX movements any time soon, so there is no reason whatsoever to expect production of those movements to cease within the next ten years. It is therefore reasonable to expect parts availability for a modern 9sXX movement purchased today for approximately 40-50 years.

By way of comparison, why don't you look into the parts availability for most discontinued ETA and Lemania movements, much less pre-Swatch Omega, Tissot, Longines, etc. Movements.
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>>59998976
Most quartz swatches.
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>Titanium
>top-tier ETA movement
>500m water resist
>5-600 monetary units

Is this the ultimate automatic tool watch?
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3-days power reserve automatic watch to commemorate the founding ceremony of China in 1949

Diameter without crown: 44mm / Thickness: 15mm
Lug width: 22mm
Weight: 130 grams
Dial: domed vintage style, with a red star below 12 o'clock
Front crystal: domed sapphire
Display case back: sapphire
Band material: genuine leather
Movement: Peacock SL-6601 automatic, small second hand at 9, power reserve indicator at 3, big date display at 6 o'clock
Vibration per hour: 28800 high frequency / Power reserve: 72 hours or 3 days
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>>59999297
>Boring derivative design
>Flieger hands on a dive watch because Steinshit's designers are retards
>Needlessly oversized
No, but it could have been.
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>>59999348
>44mm
D R O P P E D
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>>59994277
I always had an aversion towards people who wore such watches.
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>>59999348
>Peacock SL-6601
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>>59999176
>>59999200
Thanks, guess I watch into those.

>>59999202
Tbh I didn't have a clue that DW is chink to start with..

>>59999211
I'm neither gay nor brown enough to wear a golden watch, anon...
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>>59999348
How the power reserve subdial clashes with the style of the rest of the dial automatically makes it garbage.

Also that star looks crooked.
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>>59999371

You need to be an Italian industrialist or Ralph Lauren to pull it off.
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>>59999348
I'd be all over it at 40-42mm and without that text on the dial.
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>>59999389
>>59999348
How many fucking times do they need to mention the power reserve?
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>>59999395
>neither gay nor brown

You came to the wrong thread motherfucker
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>>59999358
>Boring derivative design
Kind of, yeah. But then nearly all modern dive watches have this form factor.

>Flieger hands on a dive watch because Steinshit's designers are retards
They're straight sword hands, dive watches have had them since the beginning of dive watches. Pic related.

>Needlessly oversized
42mm is very much a medium size for modern dive watches.

Also, none of your points are cosmetic and have anything to do with it being a tool watch.
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>>59999478
>none of your points are cosmetic
*ALL of your points are cosmetic
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Wää baby anon want Blancpain and milky
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>>59999478
The watch in the picture you posted has index hands, not swordfish. Pic related is the origin of instrument style hands as used today by Sinn and Damasko. Such a design for hands absolutely does not belong on a dive watch.
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It is made thin - only 8mm in thickness, and manual hand-winding is required. Sea-Gull ST17 automatic movement is modified to be hand-winding after its self-winding rotor has been removed.

Unique feature: all blank without a single letter at front
Diameter: 35mm without crown
Thickness: 8mm / Lug width: 18mm
Weight: 37 grams
Movement: modified Sea-Gull ST17 hand-winding
Front crystal: sapphire
Band material: genuine leather
Color of second, minute and hour hands: blue
Case back: solid stainless steel
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>>59994700
007/10
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>>59999478
>>59999544
This picture of hand types clearly shows the Fifty Fathoms has index hands. If the designers at Steinshit weren't drooling retards they would have used Swordfish hands on that model.
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>>59998976
Tisell offers a bauhas design with a good quality Miyota 9015 movement for $195

http://shop2.tisellkr.cafe24.com/product/tisell-bauhaus-design-38mm-miyota-9015-automatic/30/?cate_no=1&display_group=2
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>>59999603
I mean sword hands, not swordfish. Derp.
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>>59999544
>>59999603
The hands on the Steinhart are straight, not trapezoid like those Sinn hands.
They also have a long lume insert down the middle, and aren't flat like those Sinn hands.

The Steinhart's hands are much closer to the hands in this Blancpain >>59999478
than to the hands in this Sinn cockpit clock >>59999544
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>>59996630
Stop posting this shitty image. The original was crap enough yours is just desperate.

And yes there is a chink anon who admitted his family is involved in fakes/manufacturing so its easy to confuse the two of you /fa/ggots
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>>59999603
So what kind of hands does the Steinhart have according to you?
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What logo would look good on this?
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>>59998976
Orient Bambino?
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>>59999567
i need a watch looks exactly like this with the date indicator. can you guys recommend me one? i used winding mechanism before and didn't like it. it makes watch thicker therefore i prefer battery powered one
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>>59999701
>family is involved in fakes/manufacturing

Protip: Most fakes come from Vietnam and Cambodia, not China
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>>59999777
Nice digits

Get HOMOS
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Don't mind me, just spraying around some Chinese-repellent.
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>>59999808
>exactly like this
>with the date indicator.

http://www.good-stuffs.com/Beijing-Hong-Ru-Y-automatic-wrist-watch-_p_244.html

Movement: Beijing automatic
Diameter: 39mm excluding crown
Thickenss: 10mm
Weight: 63 grams
Crystal: sapphire
Case back: display
Band material: genuine leather
Dial color: antique white
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>>59999655
This looks pretty much like something I'd want.
Apparently it's Korean, definitely not a chink in disguise?

>>59999784
I thought that's China too?
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Big willy
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ebin get :D :O :D
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Get?
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>>59999680
Nope, those Steinshit hands don't look Sinn like at all...

>>59999707
I would call them instrument hands as they come from cockpit clocks. Its the hand design most commonly used by Sinn and Damasko on their modern pilot's watches.
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>>59999916

At least put some effort in.

http://www.allday.com/these-photos-of-the-tiananmen-square-protests-are-still-banned-in-chin-2180804341.html

btw, I'm still not Chinese
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>>59999933
it has winding mechanism
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>>59999942
Korean made, Japanese automatic movement (and a very good one for the price, might I add). Many people online have bought Tisell's and I haven't really heard any complaints.
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>>59999371
maybe you shouldn't be such a fucking manlet
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>>60000000
>>59999999
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>>60000071
>Sinn

I was talking about this Sinn >>59999544

Sinn uses tons of hand types you moron.

And guess what, Sinn actually uses full-blown trapezoid "cockpit clock" hands on a bunch of "dive watches", pic related.

Yet here you are, crying about Steinhart using hands that look at lot more like the hands on that vintage Blancpain than any of the flat hands Sinn makes.
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>>60000076
Doesn't change the fact that everyone hates you here.
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>>60000143
Thanks man.
Just by the looks, I think this one made the race for me.
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>>59999942
Oreint is Japanese
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Hey SeaGull 1963 anons.. How is your watch after x amount of weeks?
I'm almost tempted to pick one up to temporarily quench my chronograph hunger. Did you go acrylic or Sapphire?

Poljot24 has them from 275 eu including tax, fair deal?
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>>60000224
Gee, I wonder why a company that started off literally making cockpit clocks would carry that design language across their entire range?

Shockingly, they actually match Sinn's design language overall, so they don't look out of place. By contrast, the hands on that Steinshit stick out like a sore thumb because they glaringly don't belong on that design.

Of course, since you are too retarded to even tell the Steinshit hands apart from index hands, i won't bother wasting time discussing this with you any further. That Steinshit looks terrible and is bought exclusively by people too ignorant of horology to even realize it looks retarded.
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>>60000417
>they glaringly don't belong on that design
See pic.
That style of hands has fit this general design just fine for half a century.
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Stop buying homages.
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>>60000486
>Still trying to insist his garbage Steinshitter has index hands when it clearly does not.
Shiggy
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>>59999777
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>mfw I refuse to pressure test rep divers
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>>60000511
I used to hate homages.

But this fucking Steinhart 500 titanium thing is extremely tempting.
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Going to buy my first proper watch, I'm thinking Seiko 5 SNZ. Good idea?
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>>60000527
Would you say these are "index" hands?
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>>60000511
I should, but I can not justify paying $25k for a watch unless I make like $500k a year.
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>>60000527
They're straight, broad, pointed, and have long lume insert running along the centre. Just like the Steinhart.
Stop being an autist.
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Can /g/ help me identify this watch??
Thanks
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>>60000775
I think that watch is produced in Africa. The company is called the big *something* I'm not sure of the exact name.
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>>60000775
>say, Louis CK, what time is it?
>time to prep the bull
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>>60000775
BIG
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>>60001043
>>60000837
>>60000821
>ITT cucks and manlets
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>>60000568
What the hell is a rep diver?
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>>60001176
A group of five hundred horologists and five hundred linguists got together and debated this for six months. In the end with a vote of 642 to 354 (with 4 abstaining) they concluded that it most likely means "a replica of a dive watch".

Dummy.
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>>60000737
>They're very broad, all white at he ends and black at the center, and highly lumed just like a cockpit clock
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>>60001258
dumb anime poster
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>>60001285
>trapezoid
>no longitudinal lume insert
>"totally the same guy'se!"

You're a retard.
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>>60000568
You should agree, charge them, and then make sure it fails while telling them it passes. Fucking fake watch faggots deserve it.
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>>60001285
Sinn uses those exact hands for divers.
And that vintage Fifty Fathoms uses the same type of Arabic numerals at 12/3/6/9 on the dial of its diver.

What's your point?
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>>60001258
>replica

Isn't replica the wrong word? Wouldn't fake be more fitting? Since most of the time those watches are of worse quality, lack important details and use different movements?
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>>59998012
give up shill homos watches are disliked here for very good reasons
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>>60000558

mmmmmm
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>>60001288
>says the repfag
>in a thread for genuine watches
>on a website for Tojo toons

>>60001304
Nope, because we guarantee that the seals work as intended when we do a pressure test. A rep might have 200m written on it like on the original, but is actually a 3atm shitter, then it might pass even at 5bar, but fail the first time owner tries to swim with it. I refuse to have them tested because they can't be trusted.
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>>60001324
My point is the Steinshit is fuck ugly, the hands look totally retarded on it, and Steinshit buyers are pure cancer.

Sinn uses those hands on its divers because Sinn literally started as a cockpit instrument maker, you inveterate pleb. Sinn makes divers that look like pilots watches overal, and the consistent styling of their divers means the hands actually match.

Meanwhile the flying morons at Steinshit's design department had to ruin what would otherwise have been the best value ETA 2892-A2 powered watch on the market by putting those overly fat hands that totally clash with the rest of the design.
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>>60001358
>for very good reasons

Like?
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>>60001412
These hands >>60000486
don't clash with the design.

That's basically the exact same design with the exact same hands.
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>>60001412
Those hands on the Steinhart 500 are the only redeeming element in what would otherwise be just another sub homage.
And they fit the design perfectly if you ask me.
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>>59996929
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>>60001451
Nope.

>>60001496
Well enjoy your steinshitter then. Pro tip: Make sure you get it pressure tested since they aren't actually ISO certified.
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>>60001521
Why is gold plating a thing?
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>>59999942
buy a DW and then neck yourself
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>>60001547
>Nope
Lmao.

Enlighten me, what's so different between these two basic designs?

>inb4 the hands on the Steinhart are slightly broader, and the serrations on the bezel are deeper, so it's a totally different design
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>>60001547
>they aren't actually ISO certified.
Neither are Rolexes.
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>>60001557
>Stop liking what I don't like!!!!!
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>>60001661
I just think that it's tacky to make a cheap watch look expensive. If you can't afford a watch out of real gold then get something else or save up.
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>>60001521

>I
>II
>9
>IIII
>I
>VI
>I
>VIII
>I
>IX
>I
>XII

My autism is triggered
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>>60001723
What do you feel when you see this?
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>>60001723
>>60001743
Worst. Shit. Ever.
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>>60001653
http://forums.watchuseek.com/f275/ocean-one-gmt-water-pressure-failure-558965.html

http://forums.watchuseek.com/f275/brand-new-ocean-one-black-fails-pressure-testing-3678658.html

http://forums.watchuseek.com/f275/issues-my-steinhart-gmt-3113146.html
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>>60001769
I know.

Just saying ISO means dick.
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>>59998336
dhaka, fampai
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>>60001769
>Talking about Ocean 500
>Posts relating to Ocean GMT
>One post isn't even about pressure, but instead a broken movement

Nice relevance.
But yes. These are manufacturer claims. And the wording tends to lend itself to be "Waterproof to (X)m" Which, should they want to argue, could mean, that is the point at which it fails.

But that doesn't even begin to argue the claim made by the anon you quoted, which s
>Neither are Rolexes
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>>60001859
Gee, I wonder why I would believe the water resistance rating from the company that invented waterproof watch cases and not from some shitter brand stuffing ETAs in Chinese cases?

It really activates those almonds.
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>>60001942
>some shitter brand stuffing ETAs in Chinese cases
You just described 99% of Swiss watchmakers.

Only difference is, Steinhart prices its watches accordingly.
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>>60001329
For the watches that are at all popular they use clone movements which are the exact same and they're pretty much identical. Slightly worse finish but that's it.

Watchmaking is a racket, you don't get what you pay for.
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>>60002016
Yes, but not Rolex. Rolex pressure tests every watch they make, and I trust their QC about 999,999 times more than Steinshit.

Also, Steinshitters failing pressure testing is a known issue, hence multiple forum threads about it.
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>>60002105
Liar. Fakes use garbage half working Chinkshit movements and come with zero QC or warranty.

I saw a brand new $300 fake Sub with 112 degrees of amplitude running +65 SPD. That movement had WEEKS to live, at best. $300 just set on fire.
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>>59994700
9/10. Currently looking into buying the black version of the SMPc myself. Will try it on for the first time tomorrow.
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>>60002105
>Watchmaking is a racket
There's no deception in watches (Except fakes and homos who claim their eta-clone as an in-house movement). People know they pay outrageous amounts for a small machine and a brand name.
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>>60002364
Rolexes also cost around 10 times what that titanium Steinhart costs.

The comparison is beyond unfair.
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>make a nice minimal watch

>make it expensive, limited edition and japan-only

Why Seiko?
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>>60002610
That looks like a cubicle wall clock.
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>>60002386
What's hilarious is that some of these fakes literally cost $1000+.

Like what the fuck is wrong with your head? You can get REAL Air-Kings and shit for like less than $2000. I've also seen vintage Jaeger Lecoultre Memovox watches go for less than $2000.
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What strap does /wt/ think would look good on this watch?
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>>60002710
Black calfskin without the stupid contrast stitching near the lugs

Or if you're brave a crimson strap
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>>60002710
The one it comes with. I don't think the case shape works well with any other kind of strap.
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>>60002710
Hirsch Ascot dark brown
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>>60002637
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>titanium
>500m water resistance
>top-tier ETA movement
>5-600 bucks

Not even Seiko comes close to this kind of value for money.

Talk some sense into me, for I am about to buy a fucking steinshit.
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>>60002710
Vintage leather strap from Watch Gecko. Mine is dark brown
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R8 my watch, doesn't it feel comfy
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>>60002386
>garbage half working Chinkshit movements

Incorrect, almost all replica Rolexes use clones of the real movement. Worse QC? Yes. Worse finish? Yes. But not $5000 worse by any stretch of the imagination.
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This is my watch, I really like it.
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>>60002890
You forgot
>Fully lumed bezel
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>>60002995
>sp00ky skellingtons posting on /g/
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>>60002999
Exactly.
And double-domed sapphire, and 120-click bezel, and sapphire caseback, etc.
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>>60002471
Tell that to >>60001653 and >>60001859 since they made the comparison.
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>>60003051
But that comparison is fair.

A cheap brand not using ISO doesn't necessarily mean much, since top brands like Rolex also don't use ISO.
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>>60002987
BULLSHIT. Those Chinkshit fakes do NOT use a free sprung balance, much less any of the other technologies Rolex uses.
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>>60003063
Rolex doesn't have to use ISO testing because everyone trusts their internal testing and QC. Steinshitters, on the other hand, should be taken for pressure testing immediately after you receive one since brand new watches failing is a known issue, Steinshit doesn't internally pressure test, and apparently their QC isn't great if 300m watches are failing pressure tests in the wild frequently enough to be a known issue on forums.
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>>60003126
>frequently enough to be a known issue on forums
Because you found a couple of such instances?
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rate new watch
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>>60003156
I don't like that crown. Seems like you broke the real one off and put a nut on from the hardware store.
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>>60003186
Its the original one desu
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>>60002753
>>60002710

This. The SARB looks best on its bracelet, don't be a leather strap fag. Especially if you are getting an awkwardly stitched one like this manchild >>60002926
.
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>>60003143

Here's a few more:

http://forums.watchuseek.com/f275/brand-new-ocean-one-black-fails-pressure-testing-3678658.html#/topics/3678658?page=1

http://forums.watchuseek.com/f275/new-steinhart-ocean-titanium-engraved-ceramic-2346786-100.html#/topics/2346786?page=100

(Multiple QC issues in that thread)

Now if you consider the sales volumes of a micro-brand and how few people ever have their watches pressure tested, the implications are quite damning.
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>>60003291
The bracelet is a bit cheap feeling though.
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>>60003357
Every maker has issues, even notorious "rugged" watch brands like Sinn have tons of threads with defective watches.

And it seems like every one of the instances you linked were solved by customer service (which is more than you can say for Sinn).
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>>60003291
jesus fuck your manlet wrist makes a 38mm watch look huge
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>>59994117

Cool tag brah

Heres mine
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>>60003439
U wot

>>60003515
When will they learn
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Postin my ruskies
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>>60003729
I used to have this Sturmanskie but sold it a year ago
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>>60003743
I regretted it in the long run and got this Kirova 3133 out of nostalgia, I love it even more
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>>60002610
>Why Seiko?

Because WESTERN faggots demand 42mm watches
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I had a dream where I bought a russian diver. It had a scene on the dial, a diver with those huge helmets with a tube to the surface, and some coral. It was nice and 3d.

If I could draw things from my dreams, I would make bank.
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>>60003764
My scuba dude
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>>60003781
Raketa world time
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>>60003764

That looks better
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>>60003156
I got to admit, I usally dislike both that style of hands and roman numerrals on wrist watches, but, they looks so nice and humble on this watch.
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>>60003807
Raketa Kopernik, I overwound it after a day and sent it back though
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>>60003778

>elisa

REEEEEEEEEEE
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>>60003833

I've always loved this design but the movement always looks too delicate to really wear.
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>>60003833
This Elektronika was pretty shitty but the faggots from the /fa/ watch thread used to love it for some reason. I sold it to some dumbass from there for 60€.
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>>60003838

Im 28 and I still have the slowest 3g plan from Elisa, I have a one digit number difference from my sisters plans, they live all over the world.

My mommy pays my mobile phone bill.
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>>60003833
You have a pretty nice Soviet shitter collection. I just have a big zero, it's a fun watch but it's so poorly made. I like the world time and the koperik a lot too.
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>>60003891
Some Raketa dress watch I also used to have
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>>60003909
Here's a movement shot so you can check out that rust and a bunch of pubic hairs and shit in there.
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>>60003481
For fucks sakes. I didn't say not to buy a Steinshitter, I just said to get it pressure tested upon receipt because I know it's a known QC issue with them. I'm aware Steinshit handled the issue in the linked instances.
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>>60003807
Damn that pic sucks
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>>60003897

The 4G is €17 a month of Elisa
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>>60003909
>>60003937
The big zero is very iconic but the design is not my cup of tea. The movement looks clean enough imo. If you like the world time you should definitely get one, the build quality and finishing is much better than all the Raketas Ive ever had.
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>>60003944
That's a very fair suggestion to make. Faggot.
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>>60003971

But I can mobile pay Battery energy drinks and Moomins soda from a vending machine without my mommy noticing (they are rich) and then return those cans and bottles for cash>>60004014
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>>60003966
And to finish my slavshit posting, here's a cute and kinda rare Bauhaus style Pobeda from the 60s. I gave it to my brother last xmas and he only wore it that day. It breaks my heart desu, he loved the scuba dude I gave him for his bday though.
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Currently awaiting my second Vostok.
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>>60004178
That's a cool watch take it back and give it to me instead. Do you buy your slavshits off ebay or what?
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>>60003661
The standard bracelet feels a bit cheap to me, it's a bit rattly. It's better than the jubilee on the SKX but it's not as good as my Strapcode bracelets or the bracelet on my Christopher Ward Trident.

The pin & collar system is fiddly to adjust too.
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>>60004278
I would rank it higher than my super oyster, it's lighter because it's narrower but it still feels high quality. Adjusting any bracelet sucks but that's a one-time thing.

Funny enough it's more comfortable than the SARX bracelet which looks really cool but doesn't really bend to fit your wrist as well.
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>>60004216
I wish I could take it back, I am still thinking about getting a way to do it. Maybe I should buy him another Slav shitter in exchange?
Yeah I buy all of them from eBay, from very selected sellers with very good shit for little money. I shouldn't reveal their names though.
I forgot to post the Vostok SE I am waiting for. As you can see in pic related I shopped the bezel insert I am gonna put on it.
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>>60004403
Fair enough, each to his own.
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>>60004571
Just got George Daniels "Watchmaking" book. Was it worth it?
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>>60002987
>Incorrect, almost all replica Rolexes use clones of the real movement.
Wrong.
They use the chinese copies and varients of miyota.
That's all.

They're not going to engineer a copy of a rolex movement that's costlier for them to make rather than just use the tired old miyota clones they always use. Miyota clones and other chinese movements.
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>>59994202
Return it.
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>>60004732
No, you should've got 50 shades of grey.
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>>60003729
What model/ type is that? how can i find the slimmer models on ebay?
>>60003891
bought the same model with less scratches for 17 burgerbux shipped. nothing special, but i like it alot.

>>60004014
>>60003909
is this watch worth getting for 60 $, i kinda love the design but i heard it's pretty shitty quality wise.
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>>60004968
Yeah I paid a bit more than $60 for one with the box and stuff. You can get a much nicer watch for the price, even a Seiko 5 or something is way higher quality. It's a neat looking watch though and I just wanted to have some Soviet watch in my collection.
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NEW NEW >>60005199
>>60005199
>>60005199
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>>60004968
>What model/ type is that? how can i find the slimmer models on ebay?

It's just a modded Amphibia with custom dial and smooth bezel
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>watches are technology
>vaporizers are not
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>>60001547
I agree with this anon, thoroughly
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>>60005473

Start a general then
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>>60005202
Fucking idiot, this hasn't even hit the bumplimit yet
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>>60000000
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>>59998024

you might be thinking of Omega
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>>60003729
Here's my ruski, anon.
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Theres a lot of love put into an amphibia
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>>59996918
I like that presage, will it be for sale in Europe? Haven't seen it around yet
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>>60009150
Them too, new Omega is bullshit.
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>>59998794
Here's a pointer for you: don't buy anything DW or anything associated with people wearing DWs
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>>60001723
it's not the 9 but the IIII that pisses me off
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What do you guy think about this?
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>>60010122
Not usually a fan of subdials, but I like it.




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