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>What are some cool programs?
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/list_of_applications
https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Main_Page

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http://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php
http://www.grymoire.com/Unix/

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>How to break out of the botnet?
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1st for I'm going to nuke windows
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>>60467703
clap clap clap
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When I run feh from the terminal the window opens at top left instead of the center like every other program. Am I missing a setting/option somewhere or is this just how it is?

Running cinnamon on arch.
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Why is youtube-dl so inconsistent when streaming from twitch? Some days it's buttery smooth, some days it cant even keep a 1s buffer. Meanwhile streamlink always powers through. If it were shitty internet, wouldn't both streamlink and youtube-dl be stuttery pieces of shit?
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Before I go to bed I open up a terminal, run screenfetch, and stare at the Arch logo that is output for half an hour, or until I climax
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>>60467722
streamlink even keeps a higher bit-rate. youtube-dl's bit-rate is spiking constantly
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How do I learn X?

I tried installing LightDM and it literally does not work. Does absolutely nothing. Trying to run a dm-tool command results in
Unable to contact display manager: Could not connect: No such file or directory

I'm xfce on void, don't have any outlandish configuration or anything. I can't be bothered to spend hours trying to figure out things, because I have literally no idea where to start. Is there like a guide that would give me a good idea of how things work, so that I can approach problems like these from an informed perspective?
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Hey guys, probably not strictly a Linux question, but after couple of months of using Xubuntu, I decided to get rid of W7 from my work/school laptop, because it's been really great.

Is there a way to merge old Windows partition "New Partition 1" into dev/sda6 Data?
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>>60467608
The woman in orange has a nice torso.
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>>60468167
Technically you're using the goo software for that.
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>>60467608
Where is he in this picture? It vaguely looks like Rome
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>>60468167
Delete the partition, resize the other one to take up the now-empty space.

I don't think there's a way to merge partitions preserving data, so you'll need to back it up, proceed as above, then copy it back manually.
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>>60468236
Thanks. That's what I was afraid of, I don't have too much free space to temporarily put my stuff somewhere else. I'll probably have to just have one weird 40 GB partition until I get hold of some external drive.
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>>60468167
The other anon beat me to it.

Some other things:
- If you're getting rind of windows you don't need the 100 MiB NTFS partition either.
- At some point you'll appreciate having a real filesystem for your data rather than NTFS. Maybe rather than extending the NTFS partition you'd be better off making a new ext4 (or xfs, zfs, btrfs, pick your poison) storage partition. .
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Why does qemu not recognize my bridge setup?

https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=207907
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Can a friendly anon recommend a good budget-mid tier laptop that I can install linux on? $600 max, maybe?

I won't be doing anything too fancy on it, so it doesn't have to be a performance monster. Also, are laptops that have Windows 10 preinstalled "locked down" in any way that would prevent installing linux?

Thanks
plsnobully
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>>60468314
I suppose clean reinstall would be the best, but I have no way of storing my data for now.

Do you think removing this 100 MiB partition is okay? It does have 'boot' flag on it, did it only apply for Windows?
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>>60468384
Thinkpad T450
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>>60467608
hello folks im thinking about writing linux desktop apps for fun.

what is some good starter? I hear qt is supported but its sdk is kind of heavy. I want something light since im on 3G during the week and I would prefer to build something lightweight either.

is GTK+ the only way to go?
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>>60468423
tkinter for python
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>>60468407
>Do you think removing this 100 MiB partition is okay?
Yes.

>did it only apply for Windows?
Yes. It's NTFS, see? It's a sort of equivalent of /boot that recent versions of windows have been doing.
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>>60468423
>for fun.
>>60468496
>python
this
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>>60468058
Dont use a display manager.
Use startx
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>>60468562
startx is love
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>>60468562
>Use startx
Use startxfce4
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>>60468593
>~/xinit
>startxfce4
>login
>startx
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>>60468614
Don't get me started!
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>>60468496
>>60468557
looks good. thanks for the recommendation.
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Is there a way to change the filepicker on Linux? The one I use doesn't seem to have an option for thumbnail preview.
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>Richard Stallman is a Microsoft employee
>He uses Windows
>Tells people that Windows is spying and should use GNU/Linux
>Loonix is actually a honeypot
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>>60468951
>>60468423
GNU/Linux*
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>>60468951
Patch GTK or install KDE.
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>>60468979
https://falkvinge.net/2013/11/17/nsa-asked-linus-torvalds-to-install-backdoors-into-gnulinux/
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>>60468384
refurbished hp compaq/elitebook 1234p/w
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>>60469087
>GNU/Linux
Jesus christ.
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>>60469234
kekerino
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>>60469087
fake news

>The misunderstanding, reported by Slashdot, The Register, The Hacker News and others, was caused by a simple joke that was taken too seriously.

http://mashable.com/2013/09/19/linus-torvalds-backdoor-linux/#klVwR1VdnaqF
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>>60469234
What is so funny, sir? That is the proper name.
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>>60469617
they're talking about the kernel
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thoughts?
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>>60469660
GNU/Linux*
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>>60469660
https://www.gnu.org/proprietary/malware-microsoft.en.html
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What are some cool terminal commands?
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>>60469660
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>>60469818
cat
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>>60469818
tac
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>>60469818
Read the man page for the "find" command. That's fucking cool.
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>>60469902
>
bash: man: command not found


???
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How has free software changed your life?
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>>60470102
I am the master of my softwares. If I don't like a soft I can change it or use another one.
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>>60470102
It made me computer literate.
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Hi /fglt/ im in a bit of a conundrum, i have 2 ssd's and two hdd's both the same size, make and model.

I want to dual boot windows and linux but i don't want the ever present botnet of windows to be able to see whats on my linux drives. Is what i want to do possible or can windows see everything on every drive connected to the computer?
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>>60470347
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>>60470312
ask in the thinkpad thread
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>>60470390
Ah, I forgot that existed. Thanks.
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>>60470226
Simply encrypt the contents on whatever partition you install *GNU/Linux in.
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>>60470417
Im new to GNU/Linux and Encryption, what would be the best method to use?
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>>60470479
Most distros give you an option to do full encryption via the installer (Xubuntu, Linux Mint, Fedora, OpenSUSE). Using a non-installer is a bit more complicated.
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>>60468423
What language?
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>>60470226
Windows dosent support linux filesystems unless you install extra software to enable it.
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cum in the fuck
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I'm glad the "((()))" spammer and anti-RMS shill has left these threads.
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>>60470515
Thank you anon, im reading the gentoo wiki page now.
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>>60470715
Not for long before he wakes up
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>>60470715
>anti-RMS shill
I'm here, im always here
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I think I am having another caffeine panic attack, my heart is racing and I can't think straight. Help me.
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>>60470989
http://www.calmclinic.com/panic/causes/caffeine
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>>60469660
my OS history is:
XP
//XP get bluescreen while installing SP3
Ubuntu (Unity)
Debian (gnome)
Debian (kde)
gentoo (kde)
maybe ill swich to another distro, but i promise /g/, i wont use proprietary OS!
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Just in case anyone missed it. It's gold.
>>60469114
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>>60470715

newfag here what does >"((()))"
stand for?
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>>60471052
>The use of triple parentheses or triple brackets, also known as an (((echo))), is an antisemitic symbol that has been used to highlight the names of individuals of a Jewish background.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triple_parentheses
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>>60471052
It is used when people like (((you))) post
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>>60470715
i still post "(((no)))" occasionally
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>>60471045
Lmfao
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>>60471045
WHAHAHA so *they* rule world /g/uys, N\/\/0 will never come
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>>60471045
Reminds me of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lR-lxPhGunU
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What's the most popular email client (preferably terminal or emacs based)? I'm really sick of Thunderbird
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>>60471415
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/list_of_applications#Console_3
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>>60471531
I know but I was looking for more spoonfeeding
Like what is the most popular one (good documentation, stable, modern featureset)

Was wondering if there was still a modern emacs client as well that is widely used

Iirc mutt and alpine are the most popular `
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Im having issues with i/o.When ever i access my raid arrays the system locks up during heavy i/o such as transferring files between the two arrays.But during so,there is no i/o on the main systems ssd. What could be bottlenecking the main ssd and how would i address it?
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Why the fuck is OpenSUSE such unusable garbage?
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>>60471699
Because, like other buggy shitty distros, it is based on another distro.
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>>60471699
Because it ships with so much shit and trying to install only the software you need takes longer than configuring Arch.

Gecko is p.nice.
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Hello, I'm running Ubuntu Gnome 18.04
What's the difference between sudo apt-get distupgrade and pic related?
What's the most efficient way to keep your system updated?
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*blocks your path*
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>>60471863
I meant 17.04
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kill -9 60471932
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>>60471863
sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
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Why does http://one.npr.org/ cause both Chrome and Firefox to use >50% CPU?
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>>60472042
Is there a reason why I should use upgrade instead of dist upgrade? I mean, obviously dist upgrade removes packages so it can be unstable, but wouldn't I miss important stuff by using upgrade, for example, I don't know, the kernel stuff?
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>>60472188
u mine btc
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>>60472042
>not using just apt

sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade
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>>60472188
0.2% on Chrome for me.
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>>60472256
apt-get is faster
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>>60472291
Prove it.
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>>60472270
Minimized?
<1% when minimized
>50% in the foreground, up to 100% of an entire core

Must have something to do with rendering
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>>60472308
No.
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>>60467608
techviking.jpg
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>>60472342
ayy kek
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>still no Debian 9

Defend this
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>>60472374
The day I defend Debian is the day i
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>>60472374
https://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/
>Number concerning the next release: 142

Almost there.
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how do I fix this?
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>>60469818
locate anus
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>>60472496
replace your computer
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>>60472214
dist-upgrade only when you change your repos
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>>60472488
LOL
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>>60472291
>>60472256
>>60472042
>>60471863
beginners shouls stick to aptitude since it holds your hand on conflicts, while apt doesn't
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>>60472562
which is
aptitude safe-upgrade
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>>60472496
dejar de usar el DE
Los DEs son el cáncer de humanidad
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>>60472589
que es un DE?
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>>60472589
Fuck off, Xfce is great
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>>60472551
It's actually very little, not to mention it doesn't have to reach 0, Jessie was released with some bugs still left to fix.

You can see here that it's almost release time: https://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/graph.png
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>>60472620
el ambiente del escritorio
"desktop environment"


Hinchazón innecesaria mi amigo
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>>60472676
ok, but how do I set my drive to be r/w?
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My arch install just FUCKING broke
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>>60472643
>unirónicamente usar hinchazón innecesaria
>2017, Año de nuestro señor y salvador
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>>60472715
Thanks, I just decided to check 4chan for the last time before hitting the bed and this made me really happy. Good luck, have fun fixing it. I'll sleep well knowing my Debian will work tomorrow as it did today.
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>>60472715
fix it
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>>60472715
>just FUCKING broke My arch install
FTFY
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>>60472723
>unnecessary
I find it necessary to have an easy to use, and still relatively lightweight desktop :-)
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>>60472697
es el problemo de permiso

usar "chmod" con los argumentos apropiados por su file de media
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>>60472755
How exactly is it my fault that running pacman -Syu and then restarting X completely broke my system
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>>60472762
thanks.

should I make a bash file to set up my drive as r/w and launch qbitorrent?

>problemo
chicano detected.
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>>60472778
>running pacman -Syu

it didnt run itself
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>Router shits out
>No LAN connectivity at all, even on wired connections
>Do a web search to see how easy it is to create an ad-hoc network with a Linux Mint laptop
>You literally just have to turn it on
>Works perfectly for all the smartphones in the house, but I don't have a wireless adapter for my desktop
>Do another search to see how easy it is to use an Android phone as a wireless adapter for Linux
>You literally just have to turn it on
IBSS networks are probably yesterdecade's news to the rest of you but I'm a Mint pleb who was shocked at how easy it is to do this.
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>>60472817
Oh OK, I guess i shoudl just never update the packages on my system, great! I am beyond angry right now, I'm Pissed.
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who /arch masterrace/ ITT?
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Am thinking of switching desktop environments from KDE to Mate. However, if you think still bother me. Is there a way to make windows dial into quarters enmity? In KDE I can make a window occupy one quarter of the screen and it doesn't seem to work in Mate. I'm also looking for a equipment to KRunner. I want to press a key combination to bring up a text field I can type the name of the program I want. it's faster than mousing through menu.
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>>60472922
You can press Alt + F2 to open run programs, like KRunner. As for the quarter screen think I'm not sure
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>>60472784
lel, I can't Spanish for the life of me

Not too sure about the error in english but I'm assuming your client is complaining about not having permission to read the file from its source

Just set your media folder to r/w permissions using "chmod -R". Then restart the client and see if it's fixed

There should be documentation about what the correct permissions are.
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How can you tell that someone is an Arch user?
They will tell you in case you missed the tattoo on their forehead
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>>60471045

What she is smoking
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>>60472844
you should use apt to upgrade your packages.
you should also install ubuntu.
before running apt i mean.
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>>60472961
just tried it out. it's different from KRunner but it will do. are the panels as customizable as xfce? I can't find the settings for them anywhere.
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>>60472715
NVM fixed it
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>>60472963
It literally complains the drive is read only.
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So its been a day since i completely switched to GNU/Linux. I installed arch. At first i was just having fun with configurations, customizing my system. Then i launched vimtutor and i could not stop. I want to learn so much. I want to study as much as possible. Hope ill have enough time /g/.

[spoiler]sitting on windows makes you want nothing but degenerate[/spoiler]
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>>60473242
Nice! Have fun, welcome to the dark side. If you are so inclined consider giving Gentoo a shot
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>>60473242
Now start programming
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>>60473169
yeah, that's a permission error. But looking online this seems to be more complicated and client related.

Is the disk you're using one that you mounted from another system? Can you normally write to the disk as a user? Is there a setting in your client that is something along the lines of "set to read only upon completion"?

I also read that
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>>60473310
I am a programmer , i just had bad times last few months. I finished the project and had no new ones since then. I could not find interest in anything to start some new projects. But now i feel like i'm on the ride again.
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>>60468183
The women with the red shirt has a nice belly probably pregnant, id fuck her.
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My current boot time with an SSD on my laptop is 17 seconds in OpenRC. This is terrible, how can I fix this?
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>>60473342
here is the solution to remount an fs as rw if you're using an external disk that is mounted with read only
https://askubuntu.com/questions/175739/how-do-i-remount-a-filesystem-as-read-write
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>>60473342
I had to format my drive so I could write it again.

fuck.
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>>60473571
why? if it was mounted as r/w there shouldn't have been a problem.

Just use
sudo mount -o remount,rw /partition/identifier /mount/point
if it's mounted as read only
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>>60473609
It gave me bad mount errors.
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>>60473637
weird, sounds like a larger issue with your fs of choice maybe, no idea
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everytime i reboot or try to shutdown debian it hangs on end kernal panic - not syncing: attempted to kill init exit code = 0x000000000009
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Is there a GNU/Linux tool to see how old my computer is?
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Give me Debian 9 RIGHT NOW or I'll be FORCED to continue to support NON-FREE software.
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>>60474030
B-but you already can use Debian 9 right now.
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>>60468562
That's what I'm doing, but I'm the faggot with the win95 rice from last thread and I wanted to get a win95 login screen.
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I want to try some software that's from github, but there is no hash or gpg verification. How can I be sure the NSA didn't redirect me to a fake version or modified it because they knew I was going to download it?
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>>60469818
man touch
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What GUI browsers work in a frame buffer?
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>>60474421
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>>60474526
A what? I use Arch.
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>>60467608
Do any of you have a tear free experience on lInux (or had one)? What is/was your setup, between distro, compositor and hardware?
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>>60475065
I have always just used Xfce with Compton
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Why did you switch to GNU/Linux?
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>>60475224
I love tech.
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I'm using ubuntu server 16.04 should I upgrade to 17.04 and if I upgrade does it fuck everything up or is it even meant to upgrade?
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>>60475224
/g/ told me to
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>>60475224
Because that's what true hackers use.
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>>60475224
shit laptop battery
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>>60475224
accident

>broke my windows install
>no windows cd around to reinstall
>downloaded ubuntu
>never looked back
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>>60475224
R I C E
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>>60474458
These beautiful eyes.
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>>60475401
The color of poop
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>>60475413
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I will use proprietary software in Linux idgaf!
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>>60475461
GNU/Linux*
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Is it worth it to install Arch if I'm on Ubuntu 17.04? Ubuntu has this weird as fuck behaviour of randomly thinking that the focus of every window should be the top bar (pic related) so that I can't type anything, and nothing I try can stop it. Also the fact that "System error detected" comes up every few minutes with no apparent error is also concerning me.
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>>60475520
Install Gentoo instead of Arch, it is so much better.
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>>60475485
No, Richard
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>>60475520
>random problem pops up
>solution: change the distro
>>60475536
>approving the solution

wtf
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>>60475579
I was thinking of buying into the Arch meme beforehand, but this is probably the motivation to actually make me do it.
>>60475562
sure bby
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>>60475520
When you can't fix a simple problem like that, you're not ready for Arch.
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Anyone in here have experience making custom cursor themes? I've been at this all night at peak autism, converting all these things in GIMP from .png to .xmc files, and now that I've got them all together, in the proper folder, with the index.theme file, they don't fucking show up, and I have no idea at what part of the process I've fugged it.
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>>60475630
idk, I'd just copy paste an existing theme and replace the icons
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xmonad is the best x window manager.
>mouse not required
>comfy keyboard shortcuts for window resizing, window organization and workplaces.
i was scared of the learning curve for years. learned it in a few hours once i finally printed out the keyboard shortcuts.
prove me wrong
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>>60475742
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>>60473986
search engine and internet connection

if it's an enterprise line you're likely to find a manufactured date somewhere on the unit

the Thinkpad has this on the stickers next to the serial in MM/YY format
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>>60475065
Debian
just werks
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>>60475742
why are people still posting this crap
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>>60475224
freedum
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>>60475781
>can ensure your freedom in over four ways
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>>60467608
So on cinnamon, the shutdown menu is giving me this.

I think it has something to do with it not being setup properly with openRC. Any ideas?
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>>60476525
>shutting down
Why?
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Is Intel-ucode botnet? Should I use it?
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>>60476589
Yes. No.
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how do I make GNOME not lag when going to the overview/pressing super key? The animation is fairly fast, but it seems really choppy, like 20fps. Using wayland makes it slightly less laggy but it's still incredibly choppy. I'm using Intel HD 630 integrated graphics. I've tried uninstalling xf86-video-intel and it didn't make any difference.
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>>60468058
Have you enabled it?
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>>60475730
reeeeeeeee why you no xmonad?!?!?!?
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>>60475730
just use a DE like a normal person. All the good DEs already have tiling natively or have tiling extensions.
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>>60476780
>being a minimalist for a long time
i used to use xfce and it was pretty effective, but it's optimized for the mouse. xmonad is optimized for the keyboard AND it's written in haskell so it's fast as all fuck.
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>>60476780
>like a normal person
time to head over to normie ville, isn't it?
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What's up pimps, ya'll keepin' it real up in here?
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>>60476525
>openRC
lol
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>>60476525
Check the arch wiki
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>>60476695
Open the Tweak Tool (by searching) and uncheck "Enable Animations"
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>>60476988
>systemd
lol
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>>60477017
Unlike OpenRC, systemd can actually shut down
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>>60477025
>unironically using garbage DEs that hop on the shitstemd bandwagon
openRC isn't the problem, it jest werks on my machine
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>>60477043
>jest werks
fuck off we aren't at apple
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>>60477043
All DE's are going to (or already have) started utilizing systemd, Unix philosophy has failed.

Not even FreeBSD coreutils aren't unix
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>>60477061
I'll stick with an init that isn't a bloated vulnerable shitstain for as long as possible. If you need a DE to use GNU/Linux you should just consider using Windows imo. Why install more garbage that needs to be maintained and updated when everything works properly with a light WM? I mean, what does a DE help you do? This never made sense to me
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Why don't you own a Linux Foundation® platinum credit card to contribute to the growth of Linux™ and identify yourself as supporter of the community by carrying Tux in your pocket?
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>>60477112
>If you need a DE to use GNU/Linux you should just consider using Windows imo.
Average anti-DE anti-systemd euphoric fedora tipper
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>>60477114
i just threw up a little
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>>60476764
>>60477123
this
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>>60477061
Unix was a mistake.
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>>60477112
Hi, how is that micro kernel coming along? And how is that display server? You really don't use Linux and X.Org/Wayland, do you? Those are just too bloated and vulnerable
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>>60477147
not him but a wm is much more comfy than a de with hundrets of programs you aren't using anyway
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>>60477161
If you have anything that is a file manager, a panel and a window manager you are using a DE. Educate yourself
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>>60477172
>look mom, I'm playing the retard xD
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>>60477181
>No arguments left
Woah who the fuck knew
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>>60477194
>implying
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>>60477172
So why should I install a DE package with all sorts of shit like $RANDOM_TERMINAL, $RANDOM_MAIL, $RANDOM_BROWSER, $RANDOM_WM, $RANDOM_IMAGEVIDEOMUSICPLAYERWHATEVER and 500mb of graphical interace crap when I can just use my favorite programs and the command line?
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>>60477226
And why should I install $RANDOM_TERMINAL, $RANDOM_MAIL, $RANDOM_BROWSER, $RANDOM_WM, $RANDOM_IMAGEVIDEOMUSICPLAYERWHATEVER one by one, plus 500mb of random crap like dmenu tint2 and other trash and end up with a poorly put together dysfunctional system when I can just install a DE package and start working right away?
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Is it normal for tmux to make the user@host prompt and all the results of 'ls' white? I seem to be able to display colours since they work everywhere else, and in a normal bash prompt it will colour files and folders differently.
Setting the default terminal to "screen-256color" or any other working option doesn't change this.
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>>60477261
This is some next level reverse psychology here
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>>60477123
average special snowflake "look at muh OS" systemd bandwagon rider that has zero knowledge about their operating system

Your type of user would eat up a Windows-like architecture anyday as long as the hipster credit is paid out
>>60477172
>If you have anything that is a file manager, a panel and a window manager you are using a DE.
haha, ok
this is a perfect example of the mentality of systemd users.

A DE = a WM and a GUI file manager
10 loc = 1000 loc
bloated poorly architectured shitware with ridiculous vuln surface = modern init

etc.
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>>60477226
>>60477261
why not both

i3 on top of gnome master race
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>>60477358
average special snowflake "look at muh init system" anti-systemd bandwagon rider neo-hipster that has zero knowledge about their operating system spotted

>A DE = a WM and a GUI file manager
translation: let's forget that a WM is a mere subset of a fucking DE
>10 loc = 1000 loc
translation: (unintelligible autistic REE)
>bloated poorly architectured shitware with ridiculous vuln surface = modern init
translation: Hurr durr project is advanced and got more codes so it must be baaad, let's not look at the fucking kernel etc etc

FUCK OFF
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>>60477399
>my arguments are literally memes
just leave already
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>>60477360
>insecurity
Get fucking GNOME or get a proper distro. Your objective is not to rice your system, it should be work with your system
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>>60477413
>I got owned: the post
Sure showed me
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>>60477261
I heard you prefer graphical interfaces.
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>>60477422
you're right, you got me with those sick memes
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>>60477425
>not posting the grep one
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>>60477425
Yes I like my browser
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just installed ubuntu and realized it has amazon implemented. i'm going to change distros, what is the next best thing ?
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>>60475781
Transcribed in case anyone wants to add it to his pasta collection.

What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you proprietary slave? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class at Hardvard, and I've been involved in numerous free software projects, and I have contributed to over 300 core-utils for GNU. I am skilled in Lisp and I'm St. IGNU-cius, saint of the Church of Emacs. You are nothing to me but just another unethical non-free software advocate. I will distribute the fuck out of your source code with freedom the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit about me and the GPL on the internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my colleagues at FSF and your binaries are being reverse engineered right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your copyright. You're fucking dead, kid. Free software can be anywhere, anytime, and it can ensure your freedom in over four ways, and that's just with the GPLv2. Not only am I extensively skilled at hacking, but I have access to the source of the entire GNU userland and core-utils and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable proprietary code off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what ethical retribution your little "clever" program was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have ensured your users' freedom. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit free as in freedom all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo.
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>>60477512
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>>60477511
uninstall it and move on with noobuntu
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>>60477511
you don't have to change distros. just install xmonad, or if you're a pussy, xfce and never log in to your gnome again. gnome is bloat.
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>>60477511
or unity or w/e the fuck bs they have you install by default.
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>>60477511
Xubuntu is Amazon-free. I think in the more recent versions of Ubuntu Unity the Amazon stuff can be switched off too.
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>>60477561
>>60477568
>>60477573
>>60477588

i know that all distros are just variations of different packages.

what about mint, does it have any bullshit ?

what's the deal with xubuntu ?
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>>60477511
>problem: installed program
>solution: uninstall os
holy shit nigger, please leave this board
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>>60477614
Mint was compromised a while ago, I don't know if it was fixed but I don't see the point of trying it out when Xubuntu is perfectly fine.

Xubuntu is Ubuntu under the hood, but the DE (Unity) is replaced with XFCE which is more lightweight, has no Amazon bullshit and, in my opinion, looks nicer. A bit old-fashioned when not configured but it gives you plenty of options to make it look more modern, if you care enough.
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>>60477614
last i checked, mint uses slightly different repos/packages. vanilla ubuntu "just works" so i like to start there and customize as necessary for workstations. for servers, i use centos. if i had unlimited time/money, i'd go back to arch or even gentoo.
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>>60477511
https://fixubuntu.com/
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>>60477634
only reason is this :
>Removing the unity-webapps-common package removes Amazon from the dash. Since the Amazon webapp is part of that package, you can't just remove the Amazon portion (well, short of editing the source code). This is a problem when other programs (like Unity Tweak Tool) depend on that package.

>>60477651
okay thank you i will try xubuntu
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Why when I boot up pamac tells me I have updates but when I run pacman -Syyu it doesn't update anything and pamac no longer shows any updates?
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>>60477672
Why did you install an older LTS in the first place? Newer Ubuntus have it turned off by default.
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>>60477679
this is why h1b visas are going away
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>>60477689
i don't know, i'm new to installing linux distros. i've only used centos and i used the terminal exclusively . i don't know anything outside of using centos
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>>60477721
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called Linux, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called Linux distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
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I am in USE flag hell right now
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I don't understand canonical. Show me literally one (1) person who likes the Amazon thingy, then compare this person (propably Shuttlecock himself) to the millions of people who dislike it. So why don't they just drop that shitting thing? Don't they fear that people choose other distros?
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>>60477712
/"""f"""glt/
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>>60467608
That picture. That's fucking Rome, i can smell it.
Disgusting, The proper place for sub humans.
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>>60477731
>stallman detected
no, i will not release my local scripts
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>>60477744
Protip: They're getting shekels from Amazon, not from the users who install their distro.
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>>60477760
fucking profit hungry people make everything bad ;_;
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>>60477757
>he doesn't release every single little bash script he's ever written under the GPLv3 on github to help his neighbor and contribute to the community, and to have a non-local backup in case his system fucks up and he needs to set everything up again
Also, not releasing your program at all is NOT immoral. It's when you release a binary version without all of the freedoms that you are being immoral.
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>>60477777
found the commie, nice digits tho
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>>60477785
Yeah, how the hell should people feed their children if not by making money with implementing security holes on millions of peoples operating systems.
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>>60477731
thank dr stalman
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how long will installing memetoo take on my old singlecore laptop?
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>>60477781
not supporting proprietary software generally, but it's not really immoral until you force someone to buy your binary at the point of a gun...ie tax funded universities requiring students to run windows. without the point of the gun part, gates gets btfo.
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>>60477845
That depends on how many PhD's you have
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>>60477859
bs
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From what I used so far:

Xfce >> Cinnamon > MATE >>>>>>>> GNOME

My opinion is fact, by the way.
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>>60477845
Couple hours. Full desktop environment?? Couple days.
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>>60477161

Desktop environments use window managers. X doesn't work without window managers. Even when you use a "DE", you have a "WM".
Kill yourself for spreading vague misinformation.
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qt is fucking AIDS
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>>60477876
x works w/o a window manager, it's just not as pretty.
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>>60477876
your and idiot
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>>60477892

How can I draw windows and manipulate them without a window manager?
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>>60477894
your h1b is about to expire
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>>60477161
and a DE with only packages you have installed yourself is more comfy than a WM that takes hours to customize
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>>60477897
You use a window system, for example X.
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>>60477849
Wrong. Nobody is forcing kids to buy Call of Battlefield V: New Vegas Legendary Edition and yet they do. And while it's perfectly okay IMO to have copyright on creative content -- the level and character designs, for example --, the fact that the source code is nonfree is objectionable. Nobody is forcing people to use Winblows or Crapple either, yet people use it privately all the fucking time.
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>>60477897
rtfm
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>>60477899
My patience is about to expire.... Watch it buddy.
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what are some cool linux apps
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>>60477913
>Nobody is forcing people to use Winblows or Crapple
the us government is forcing me to pay for it. without a winblowz false monopoly, superior OSes would have replaced it decades ago. fortunately for gates (not a coder) his family had political ties when he was getting into the business

>>60477919
umadbro? you failed at grammar.
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>>60477910

X is a specification.

>Also, consistent with its philosophy of mechanism, not policy, X does not specify or provide the user interface itself or any specification with regard to the the appearance of the interface, nor does it specify the behavior of application programs (including communications between them) or the functions of a window manager.
http://www.linfo.org/x.html

Show me how you draw and manage content (windows) on X without a window manager or window manager like functionality.

>>60477915

Manual for what?
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>>60477945
x
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>>60477942
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>>60477942

bison

$ bison --help
Usage: bison [OPTION]... FILE
Generate a deterministic LR or generalized LR (GLR) parser employing
LALR(1), IELR(1), or canonical LR(1) parser tables. IELR(1) and
canonical LR(1) support is experimental.
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>>60477942
Linux doesn't have apps, but GNU+Linux (the kernel) does.
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>>60477943
I don't know about the US, I live in Germanistan. As far as I know Gates doesn't have political ties here, and yet the gov and lots of private corps like the railway company still use Winblows. Even old XP versions, and then they wonder why suddenly all their shit gets encrypted because Lisa from HR opened an Email attachment ending in .doc.exe from totallynotascammer@h4ck3rz.com
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>>60477965
It seems there are some misunderstandings about GNU and Linux. GNU is the kernel; the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. It's the core of the system; the Linux Desktop runs on top of it.
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>>60477955

There is no manual for that. You'd know that if you looked up the difference between X windowing systems, X11 and Xorg.
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>>60477985
Oh sweetie... You got a lot to learn
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>>60477985
So Linux is basically a desktop environment (DE)?
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>>60477967
when i was in college, they required us to compile c++ in windows with some shitty compiler i can't find the name of now...dropped out....healthy career thanks to my own research.

>>60477996
ok you win
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>>60478020
>>60477985
>>60478004
>>60477965

You're all wrong. Every computer has something called a "kernel", the kernel is the inside of the inside of the inside of the computer. It is a piece of hardware which knows how to speak software. There's software burned to it and it can communicate with both software and metal.
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guys ...
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>>60478046
LOL
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>>60478021
My programming tutor didn't give a shit what we compiled on as long as it worked on his machine. However, I was forced to use shit like LabVIEW *shudder*, MATLAB and other proprietary simulation programs because I'm an EE. That kind of sucked. Eventually I just outright refused to do the assignments. We always worked in groups so I had my fellow students do it, wrote the reports for them to earn my grade and lobbied for the adoption of GNU/Linux (unsuccessfully so far).
My current workplace lets me choose my own software dev tools so I've set up a mostly free system now. However, they plan on releasing my programs under a nonfree license despite being a research institute, which is why I'm currently looking to switch. Got a nice offer for firmware development at another institute.
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>>60478059
What's up?
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>>60478046
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>>60478085
>Red Hat
I prefer the Tinfoil Hat, thank you very much.
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>>60478065
gotta make dat bread
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>>60478085
What the FUCK did she mean by this.
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>>60478097
Linux*
>>60478101
watch and cry
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBQ7ukwK56Q
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>>60478109
>FURTHER DIGGING PROXI IS REQUIRED
>BOREHOLE IS NOW IN SESSION
I'd bore HER hole and dig for her proxi if you catch my drift.
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>>60478109
Oh I've already watched it. lol
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New thread in all its glory: >>60478135
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>>60478145
oh dear
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I'm running Fedora 25 WS (GNOME) with wayland on a Dell XPS 15 9560. I've got bumblebee with managed repos installed and shit worked great in the past. Latest kernel update 4.10.15 also seemed to work but yesterday GNOME Software showed nVIDIA driver update and I installed it. Now laptop becomes completely unresponsive after login or after waiting to long on login screen. Older kernels same problem. Rescue kernel works but has short 1~2sec freezes. What do?
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>>60475065
The Arch wiki has a solution for this.
I use Ubuntu without tears.




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