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Linux is a kernel inside the inside inside the inside inside the inside inside the inside inside the inside inside the inside inside the inside inside the inside of Richard Stallman's ASSHOLE
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ubuntu a gud
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>>60478149

What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you proprietary slave? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class at Hardvard, and I've been involved in numerous free software projects, and I have contributed to over 300 core-utils for GNU. I am skilled in Lisp and I'm St. IGNU-cius, saint of the Church of Emacs. You are nothing to me but just another unethical non-free software advocate. I will distribute the fuck out of your source code with freedom the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit about me and the GPL on the internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my colleagues at FSF and your binaries are being reverse engineered right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your copyright. You're fucking dead, kid. Free software can be anywhere, anytime, and it can ensure your freedom in over four ways, and that's just with the GPLv2. Not only am I extensively skilled at hacking, but I have access to the source of the entire GNU userland and core-utils and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable proprietary code off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what ethical retribution your little "clever" program was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have ensured your users' freedom. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit free as in freedom all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo.
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Regarding the OP: Why call it a "copypasta collection" when there are no pastas there? I was expecting the interjection pasta, the open source one, maybe even the Navy Seals RMS version.
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>>60478135
is this real?
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>>60478170
LOL
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>>60478174
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBQ7ukwK56Q
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I'm running Fedora 25 WS (GNOME) with wayland on a Dell XPS 15 9560. I've got bumblebee with managed repos installed and shit worked great in the past. Latest kernel update 4.10.15 also seemed to work but yesterday GNOME Software showed nVIDIA driver update and I installed it. Now laptop becomes completely unresponsive after login or after waiting to long on login screen. Older kernels same problem. Rescue kernel works but has short 1~2sec freezes. What do?
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>>60478174
Yes it sure is, this woman sued a lot of people for calling out her bullshit
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>>60478151
xubuntu > ubuntu
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>>60478181
I need to watch the whole talk. Now.
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>>60478241
Enjoy, you're in for one sweet ride brother!
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>>60478181
Waow i'm cyber expert now.
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I'm going the lasetjet route.
What's a reasonably decent printer/all-in-one to buy and works well with GNU/Linux?
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>>60478135
>woman
>talking about computer engineering related subjects
>inside
What could go wrong /g/?
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>>60478401
Who fucking knows. Google your question you fucking retard
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>>60478171
A while back the OP paste was like 3 posts long so we created a pastebin for the whole shit, hence the copapasta name. But you're right, we should fix that.
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>>60478413
>Google
botnet
>unfriendly
wrong thread
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>>60478413
>Friendly
>>60478401
HP have decent support through hplip.
The other are hit and miss.
CUPS only work for printing if you want to go down that rabbit hole.
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>>60478432
>botnet
RMS uses it through Tor with JavaScript disabled.
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>dark as my soul theme
>fucking sun, can't see shit
>xcalib -i -a
comfy_pepe.png

What are some cool terminal commands?
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should i just learn straight up emacs or emacs with evil-mode. i don't know vim.
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Can someone please direct me to a resource that would help me install the correct driver for my apu.
I know that there is radeon for old amd gpus, and that there is amdgpu and amdgpu-pro for GCN 1.2 cards.
my apu gpu is gcn, but i don't think it is gcn 1.2. thanks

Kernel: 4.8.0-52-generic x86_64 (64 bit) Desktop: Xfce 4.12.3
Distro: Ubuntu 16.04 xenial
CPU: Quad core AMD Athlon 5350 APU with Radeon R3 (-MCP-) cache: 8192 KB
clock speeds: max: 2050 MHz 1: 1650 MHz 2: 1000 MHz 3: 1200 MHz 4: 1000 MHz
Graphics: Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Kabini [Radeon HD 8400 / R3 Series]
Display Server: X.Org 1.18.4 drivers: ati,radeon (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) Resolution: 1280x1024@60.02hz
GLX Renderer: Gallium 0.4 on AMD KABINI (DRM 2.46.0 / 4.8.0-52-generic, LLVM 3.8.0)
GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 12.0.6
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>>60478491
man touch
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Noob here. I'm not familiar with file systems and stuff, if I've been using Windows and have some files on a USB drive and boot up Linux, will I be able to access them from the hard drive or will it have to be formatted or something? I'm only running Linux in a VM before I commit and I can't get it to detect the hard drive through the VM.
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>>60478491
touch cat
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>>60478491
best command here, fresh out of the meme factory
\(^
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>>60478520
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>>60478543
wtf i ran this as root and now my computer wont start
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>>60478497
nvm i think i did it
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>>60478200
Seems to be a bug in kernel 4.10.XX.
I will now have to use my laptop in runlevel 3 exclusively. V Hacker but not comfy at all.
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>>60478508
If you've been using that USB drive in windows, it'll be formatted in either fat, NTFS or exfat. Free GNU/Linux implementations of all those filesystems exist. Depending on your distro of choice, it'll work out of the box or you'll need to install some package first, but you can access those files just fine.
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>>60478622
That's what I like to hear. Thanks!
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Why is WiFi performance bad after resuming from a suspend
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In vim, can I search for regexes like in nano? i.e. enter regex, press enter, cursor is now at next match?
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>>60478181
Esoteric CISSP
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What's the best way to automatically resample/convert (whichever term is more correct) 5.1 surround sound in mpv to 2.1 or stereo upon playback?
Is mpv responsible for that or should I use something else (system sound settings, pulseaudio)?
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>>60478181
>tfw I can never be this confident in presenting something even when I am pretty sure I am right
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>>60478491
mv opinion /bin
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>>60478763
dOESNT DO THAT MPV AUTOMATICALLY?
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>>60478181
is this satire?
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thanks for the help yesterday guys. this wintard compiled from source :)

I used wxwidgets package from repos instead of their site. I think that was the difference. Also reinstalled with gnome. maybe it had some dependency i didnt catch.
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>>60478491
Free as in Freedom /w/ for you.
feh --bg-fill https://source.unsplash.com/random/1366x768
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>>60478174
Yes, her name is Enav Gand Gallili, and she tried to sue the whole world and its dog for taking the piss out of her and calling out her factual mistakes.
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>>60478181
did this girl copy that meme image with the layers of the internet
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Going to get my Masters in around a year. What do? 2 offers so far:

Stay at current research institute
>coworkers use Ubuntu and Vim
>software I develop released under proprietary license
>downtown, lots of shit to do after work but annoying traffic
>good pay
>big comfy 3 man offices
>Python and C++ (computer vision)

Switch to smaller research institute
>coworkers use Arch and Emacs
>software might be released under free license (have to check)
>industrial area, fuck-all to do but easier to get to
>only like 70% as much monies
>C (firmware development, embedded Linux)
>fellow student works there and loves it

Both jobs come with flexible work hours though the smaller institute seems to be more laid-back.
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>>60480903
How much pay are we talking for each? I would go with the second one personally, especially if the software they're releasing is libre.
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>>60480980
>How much pay are we talking for each?
Meaningless to post numbers since cost of living is different in different countries and areas. At the current job I can expect to get around 3-4 times what a 3-4 room flat in quiet places near the city would cost. More than enough to live comfortably in any case, except I can go to race tracks only half as often with the lower paying job I guess.
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>Enav Gand Gallili
Not enough that she's a woman who doesn't know what the fuck she's talking about, but she's a Jewess, so that naturally disposes her into spreading mass lies, spreading disinformation & shuing all who call her out on it.

>Oy gevalt! It's another shoah!
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>>60481347
suing*

>Oy veh! I'm even starting to talk like a Jew
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>>60481347
>>>/pol/
alternativly jump in a lake
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Is it possible to run a program that requires X11 like a video game without having to use a windows manager? I just want to use X for a handful of programs and only want to open them directly without using a windows manager.
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>>60481539
look into xinit
you can start x with a terminal like xterm instead of a wm, so basically it should work for other programs too
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>>60478181
>Level 3 - Deep web
>Math research
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>>60481479
>Being SJW
Umm... You do realise this is the internet, right?

And yes, fyi, Enav Gand Gallili is a Jew. I don't know how dense & faggoty you have to be to tell someone to jump in a lake for pointing out such an obvious fact, but it also doesn't play well on you here, tumblrite.
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>>60481800
kill yourself, this is a friendly thread, not your poo in loo lelelelel thread
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>>60481800
idgaf
Get out.
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>>60481800
Not him, but this thread already has to deal with a troll who spams the ((())) meme for linux and GNU, we don't need more politics to derail this general.
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>>60481800
There is literally nothing wrong with being jewish.
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>>60481347
>>60481800
This is a friendly thread not a fiendish thread.
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>>60481800
>>60481347
come home
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>>60478135
I need detailed info about bootloaders and partitions and bios and shit that is even easier for understanding than articles on arch wiki.
Anything, anyone?
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>>60482089
You're going to need to be less vague of what you want to know. The arch wiki is pretty detailed and simplified so anyone can understand the basics.
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>>60482120
As detailed as i can: should MBR flash drive work flawlessly on machines with UEFI?
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Femanons: Does the distro really matter?
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>>60482155
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No, it should not, MBR obsolete and must be dead.
But it does work on UEFI systems.
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>>60482392
it's how hardened it is that counts
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>>60482392
Yes, it matter which repositories and package managers you use.
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Today, after two days, I'm going to install the thingy.
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Which group is more autistic, suckless or cat-v?
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>>60481889
>Being a Jew
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>>60482840
Suckless is mainstream, not autistic at all, st terminal even supports wayland now.
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>>60482840
cat-v not autistic, more like old-school, but should be useful.
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>>60482925
>Suckless is mainstream
Delusional
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>>60482963
DWM is classic.
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>>60481828
>>60481857
>>60481889
>>60481930
>>60481972
>Getting upset over a fact
I didn't know there were so many SJWs on /g/ now. I always thought that Gnoobies like you would be more like Linus & flip the bird at all your female colleagues, hate on shitskins for keeping you unemployed & hate on Jews for overcharging for their Intel CPUs.
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>>60481889
>being a jew
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>>60482980
Doesn't mean it's mainstream. Most people just install KDE or GNOME and call it a day.
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>>60483002
Most people just install ubuntu, regardless which de it have.
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>>60483018
Point is they're probably not going to use any suckless tools if it doesn't come with it. It's not mainstream.
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>restricted internet freedom is so funny guise le internet SJW BTFO for the epik winz
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>>60483040
Same shit in Ukraine, most russian sites are blocked.
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>>60483067
Ukrainians are not people
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Am I fucked if I upgrade my ubuntu 16.04 server to 17.04? Is it safe process and should you upgrade your server?
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>>60483122
So true.
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>>60483152
Yes. You're fucted because it's Ubuntu. Switch to Arch.
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>>60483122
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>>60483152
don't put it onto 17. keep servers on LTS releases.
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>custom window manager on mac

Is such a thing possible at all? I don't care if I have to spend an entire weekend dawn to dusk configuring shit. As long as it doesn't completely fuck up the OS.

I have to use a mac for work and I'm getting real fucking tired of the macOS DE.
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>>60483553
this doesn't belong in this thread anon.
isn't the idea of having a mac for macos & its design?
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>>60483412
I thought 17.04 is the new lts release?
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>>60483613
no
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>>60481609
... and heavy porn.

This stuff is priceless!
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How can I get TTYs greater than 12? Is it possible for infinite TTYs?
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Is there a way to compile Gentoo in a VM and pass to a bare metal machine?
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>>60484051
install the gentoo system, make an iso image of the filesystem & put that onto a disk.
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>>60484051
Why not just install on bare metal and avoid overhead?
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>>60484187
Compile times on an older CPU is a pain in the ass on a older CPU takes two or three days to compile everything also make the computer useless meanwhile installing
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>>60484240
ok ignore my post thats works too
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So now, when Debian dropped livecd images support, what's the best "pocket" distro to have on flash drive.
I use it for emergency purposes (such as memtest, data recovery, etc) from time to time.
Pic slightly related but i curious if there are better options.
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Are there any programmes I can get on Mint that are functionally and visually very similar to Honeyview for images and MusicBee? I'm an autist and resist change, so I'm trying to get everything as close as I can to how I've always had my computers.
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>>60484552
>Debian dropped livecd images support
When?
>Hieren's
>Puppy
>Porteus
>Slax
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>want to switch
>have to google how to do anything or set up anything or install anything
>this process takes 10-30+ minutes for literally everything
>can do everything on Windows in 2 seconds

how did you people convince yourselves making the switch was worth it

really love the "installing things on linux is easier" meme, yeah if you already have the right repository, know the exact name of the program, and updated all your packages and junk
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>>60484662
keep trying. make notes on how things are done, you will know it well enough if you keep trying and push yourself into it. most package managers have a search function. use
 apt search <package> 
to search for packages, which will give you the full name of the package. not hard to run
 apt update && apt-get dist-upgrade 
every now and again to update everything
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>>60484662
>this process takes 10-30+ minutes for literally everything

what obscure software are you talking about?
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been using xubuntu for 6 months, I got comfortable with it and learned vim/basic terminal skills etc. I want to change it up. Should I go debian or arch. I'm not a distro connoisseur. Are either or these a pain in the ass for daily use? Is arch hard to install/use?
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>>60484717
what's the point in changing if you're happy on that distro?
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>>60484557
>MusicBee
Guayadeque
>Honeyview
Wtf is this shit. Just use default viewer.
>>60484581
>When?
Nevermind, i'm idiot. Forgot about weekly builds.
http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-live-builds/amd64/iso-hybrid
>Hieren's
>Porteus
>Slax
Fuck, this shit is outdated. Okay, Let's stick to the puppy then.
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>>60484724
Initially installed it on my HDD because I didn't think I would use it a lot. Now that I do, I want to fresh install it on my SSD. I know I could clone it but honestly I like fresh installs. I could just reinstall xubuntu since I like it and I'm used to it, but I feel like trying a new distro might be fun? Or maybe just a pain in the ass. I feel like all the cool kids use arch though, so I want to know why.
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>>60484813
they call it 'cool' because you type a few commands and let scripts install the os for you, rather than it being a 'click here to install' thing. it's really nothing too interesting. if you have found a distro you're comfortable with, it's best to stick to it.
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>>60484846
There are no scripts for arch linux install. You setup partitions, connect to internet, chroot in, install base, configure a few extra settings, and that's it
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>>60484896
what is pacstrap / genfstab scripts??
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If I make some software and in it I use two different open source softwares, of which one is under the Apache 2.0 license and the other under GPL 3.0, which license should I put on my work?
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>>60484931
gpl will probably have a fit if you don't use the same licence
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>>60484923
Nightmare of archfags as it's shows how much time they wasted on installation.
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>>60484942
I'm not sure I understood the 'conflictive' details much, but am I ok to use gpl 3.0 if in my software I used code that was under apache 2.0?
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>>60478211
>sued
Typical jew
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>>60484980
I install ArchLinux in 5'.
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>>60484931
The parts of your code that came from other sources should be marked and attributed as such. These sections are still under their respective licenses and that should be noted as well. The only code under a new/different license is that which you authored and will be under whichever license you choose.

You can't rope everything together and re-license the whole thing as one.
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It says like this on the Apache web page

"Apache 2 software can therefore be included in GPLv3 projects, because the GPLv3 license accepts our software into GPLv3 works. However, GPLv3 software cannot be included in Apache projects."
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>>60485242
Apache 2 is under a very permissive license and GPL code would force them to license the entire project under GPL.
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>>60485263
so I can put GPL then?
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>>60485311
It's a one way street. You can take code from apache 2 and put it in a GPL program without problems, but if you take GPL code the entire program must be under the same license, you can't have GPL code in an apache program and still keep the permissive license.
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>>60484557
Use defaults, fag

Also,
>Mint
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I use GNU/Linux as my main system, I boot into Windows maybe once a month for gaymen with my friends. Now, sometimes I need to do my work on Linux but I maybe need time to download and install a game on Windows. Is there any way that I can boot my Windows partition as a virtual machine under Linux? Shouldn't it be possible with kvm and hardware passthru? My computer has VT-X enabled
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>>60485367
>VT-X enabled
You need VT-d enabled also and thats rare in OEM motherboards
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>>60485416
I just booted into bios and I do have the option to enable "Intel Virtualization for directed I/O" so that should do
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Cut my life into pieces
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>try to install net frameworks on wine
>winetricks gives me a you don't have permissions error
>using sudo gives me a you don't own wine errors
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it's running>>60485367
>>60485416
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>>60484557
>programmes
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>>60483582
Mac is GNU/Unix, I thought it was close enough.

I don't know what other people's ideas of having a mac are, but for me the idea is that it's the mandatory work computer as provided by the company.

I did some looking and haven't found anything practical, so maybe I'll just run a VM. Even shitty applel specs should be able to handle a tiling window manager, perhaps even better than the native super-fancy animated one.
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Is higher end hardware useless generally with gnu/linux desktops? I was considering gettinf a new ssd (250gb) and using my old 128gb one for some distro. I know its not top end but ive got a fx8350 and a hd7970. On windows i use it to play a few games, mainly quake and starcraft.
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About to press the install button of Debian, GNU/Linux.
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>>60486329
use gentoo to utilize high end hardware properly

>>60486335
tell me why you're not using ubuntu first
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>>60486344
A few things.
The hardware is shit.
Someone recommended this.
I already tried it out yesterday.
I already have the USB made.
I found it comfy.

Why should I use ubuntu instead?
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How many virtual consoles can I have at one time? I know they're represented by special device files, can I have more than 12 at once?
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>>60486335
Have fun... Pfffahahahahahahah
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>>60478135
>the kernel is a piece of hardware
Your pic is retarded.
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>>60486386
more security features enabled by default, more up to date packages without fussing with the repos like on debian, more user-friendly by default also, get rid of the gui tools you don't want & shit to remove the ""bloat"" that ubuntu has. not much of a reason to use debian when ubuntu exists.
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>>60486399
Lurk moar

Or just be more attentive, the video this is from was posted like yesterday
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>>60486399
That is from her actual presentation to the jews internet foundation
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>>60486419
So if I'm retarded, I should get that one instead?
Is it heavier on the hardware?
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what are the main differences beside trisquel debian fedora and dragora besides fsf approval? i remember using trisquel a while ago and it seemed alright but im mainly a lubuntu guy myself
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>>60486436
no. install a lighter DE, such as LXDE or Xfce, and it will be exactly the same. I use Lubuntu myself and never had a problem. Xubuntu will be good too.
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>>60486454
Is the installation method this weird with all the linux variants?
Is there one where I can download an installer and it just works?
Ubuntu is the best when it comes to software, right? Or are the distros incompatible with eachother?
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>>60484662
>how did you people convince yourselves making the switch was worth it
Microsoft products are now completely unusable, there's no other choice but to switch. I put linux on an old laptop and I'm learning it there before I do a clean install on my PC. I will probably take me month to get to a point where I'm relatively comfortable with it and years to get to the point where I know it well but what other choice is there?
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>>60486475
most distros are compatible with eachother. ubuntu has a graphical installer with it, it's designed to be user friendly from the get-go.
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>>60486500
Then I will get that.
But the system requirements are higher than what I have. will the lighter DE fix that?
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>>60486436
It doesn't matter much, don't listen to the memesters. Debian works fine too even if you're retarded, unless you're actually braindead - Ubuntu does try harder to appeal to those types of people who switch to Linux but still want to basically use Windows.

The only thing that's heavy on the hardware is the desktop environment. I don't know what Ubuntu offers as options nowadays, but debian only offers gnome or KDE during install, both of which are pretty heavy. You'll want xfce for something light but practical. However, a desktop environment is a piece of software light any other, you can change it and install another one. If, however, you feel that you're too retarded to even do that, get Xubuntu (which is basically Ubuntu with Xfce).

Ubuntu is a derivative of debian, so all their packages are compatible, there's no worries there. Repositories might differ but they both have fuckhuge official repos so you'll basically never have problems.

They both have graphical installers, and for both of them you can basically choose all the defaults and click "next" if you don't understand something, and you'll be fine.
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>>60486518
Lubuntu will be fine for it. once it's installed, remove the tools & packages you don't need to slim it down.
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>>60486518
You sound like you really don't want to fiddle around - just get Xubuntu then, and you'll be fine.

Lubuntu is even lighter, but unless you have a literal toaster consider Xubuntu because it is more full-featured - IIRC Lubuntu is really focused on being as barebones as possible.
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>>60478170
someone continue please, i'm tired
#!/bin/bash
# generate your own meme

littlebitch="you little cunt"
navyseals="in the Navy Seals"
numerous="secret raids on Al-Quaeda"

echo "What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, "$littlebitch"? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class "$navyseals", and I’ve been involved in numerous $numerous, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo."
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>>60486551
I don't even know what constitutes as toaster.
The shit it needs to run on is 1.44 GHz fast with 2GB ram.
It had no problems with Debian using the Pendrive.
But xubuntu it is then.
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I have a question. I have a 2.1 sound system (2 speakers and a subwoofer) that are connected to a central hub type thing that is plugged into an audio out on my sound card. The only profiles available in fedora atm are 5.1 and 4.0, neither of which are correct for my speakers. However, 5.1 causes some tracks to drop when listening to multi channel audio, and 4.0 makes it work nicely. The big thing is that 4.0 profile doesn't account for a subwoofer. It is seen as analog by the os, so my question is this:

Does that central speaker hub take care of all the mixing? Is my subwoofer still working properly or am I going to end up breaking it this way? Why does 4.0 work if 5.1 doesn't if all this is the case?
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>All these summer fags just now getting into Linux
Not sure how I feel about this. Of course, I was once a summer fag too.
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>>60486627
>summer
You still are
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>>60478135
Hey, there is something I really hate on Linux, the so called buff/cache. I only have 3GB of ram and the buff cache is occupying 572MB right now. It started occupying memory when an extension on Firefox downloaded a few dictionaries. I've been searching for awhile about this, and I've found that I should leave Linux manage however it thinks the memory is better used. But the thing is, it just keep increasing and decreasing the buff/cache nonsensically. I'm not using anything right now that needs such thing. My ram keeps maxing, which triggers my poor swap partition, and everything becomes slow. Now, I've tried dropping the caches already a few times, but it does literally nothing. Yes, I know rebooting would fix this, but I'd like to be able to manage the cache/buff manually. I tried killing Xorg to see what happens, and htop shows only mpd using 2% of memory. The buff/cache isn't changing though, it's like the memory can't be freed unless shutting down everything. Is this a bug?
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>>60486627
I just felt like that the time is now.
Can't deny i'm a newfag when it comes to gnoo/linix. The important things you remember about newfags is that most will either assimilate or fuck off. (When in small numbers)
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>>60486627
You should feel good, because year of the Linux desktop soon.
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>>60486649
I started browsing here regularly 2012
>>60486678
You're right.
>>60486708
TM
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>>60486722
>2012
>rookie numbers
Been here since '05
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>>60486579
You essentially have a stereo set up. The mixer controls the cut off point which the 'central hub' controls and sends frequencies below it to the sub, and above it to the mid range speakers and tweeters.
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>>60486722
>>60486751
Maybe instead of self-fellating you guys can actually follow the point of the thread and ask or answer questions
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>>60486751
How did you even hear about 4chan back then, just wondering because at that point in time it was still relatively unknown to many
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>>60486772
I have been all day
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>>60486768
Ah I see that makes sense. Cool man, thanks for the help
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>>60486772
But I do, it's quiet now though
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>>60486803
Then tell me how to get LightDM to work on void with xfce

The service is enabled, but it's still not working, dm-tool list says it doesn't recognise the display provider or something
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Thank you for helping me by the way.
Really appreciate it.
Significantly more help than the "computer expert" I asked
>Hey, could you help me with linux, just a few general tips
>No! Never used it.
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>>60486774
Found a link from usenet.
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>>60486833
So whenever you reboot, can you run startx? Or startxfce4?
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Guys, don't use windows managers anymore. It's a middleman for the NSA to take over your computer.
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>>60486860
I usually run startx (my xinitrc just sets the keymap and runs startxfce4). I installed the lightdm package, enabled the lightdm service, rebooted and was dropped into the tty and had to startx again.

I might be missing something really simple but I have no idea where to even start looking.
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>>60486834
You the Debian/Xubuntu guy? You're welcome - this is friendly glt after all.

I even learned most of what I know right now from here, or from research kickstarted by tips from here.
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>>60486884
Elaborate pls
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>>60486886
Umm look in /etc/conf.d/xdm and set DISPLAYMANAGER="lightdm"

This may fix it, if there is no file there create one
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>>60486924
I have no /etc/conf.d even. Do I create that too?

I have to go do some stuff now but I'll try in maybe an hour.
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>>60486973
Basically search for an "xdm" file in /etc/ somewhere. You are using Void so I assume you use OpenRC as an init system
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>>60486973
Try the troubleshooting found here:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/LightDM#Enabling_LightDM
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What's the best way to play youtube videos in mpv? I was thinking about youtube-dl but that seems like such as bother.
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>>60486905
Yeah.
Currently downloading Xubuntu.
Should be done in an hour or so.
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>>60487024
mpv <url>

nigger
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>>60487093
>n**ger
Whoa! This is a friendly thread.
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>>60487106
That still requires me to copy the link, open the command prompt, type mpv, paste link, and press enter.
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>>60487143
So?
Any further ways would be too hard for your nigger brain
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>>60487154
:( But I want to know!
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>>60487174
Then you would google it and find it for your self.It isnt that hard.There is even an extension already made
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>>60487143
How about:

xsel -p | xargs mpv


Save as a shell script, bind to some keyboard shortcut. Copy URL and run.
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>>60487187
I don't like that extension. New question: is there a trivial way to do system calls from Firefox?

>>60487205
Good suggestion! Thanks!
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>>60478181
Shalam patum bibam?
Linux.
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>>60487270
Leenucks
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So for whatever reason Cinnamon is shitting itself with dual monitors and this is happening: Moving around a window is very jerky. This ONLY seems to happen in Cinnamon, and ONLY seems to happen when my second monitor is enabled.

Any idea why? Proprietary nvidia drivers FYI
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>>60487363
>Proprietary
Found your problem.
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>>60486322
wat
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>>60484662
don't fall for the gentoo/arch meme
get something easy first
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Stupid question here.

If I install Ubuntu GNOME now, will I be hooped when 17.10 or 18.04 releases? Will Ubuntu GNOME now basically just be upgraded to Ubuntu regular?
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How to boot from an iso with grub? Like a livecd/usb but from an iso on the drive
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Gentoo related question:

If i demerge a package, that was previously emerged normally, is it still recorded in @world? Or do I have to manually remove it from there.
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>>60487004
Void uses runit, which has the same problem of not being systemd.
I can't find an xdm file anywhere either. Am I missing some sort of essential package?

This sounds like a really stupid issue, but I'm really bad at all things X-related.

>>60487018
From what I can see there all I should need to do is enable the service, which I did. I have no idea what the "if this doesn't work out of the box" instructions mean since I never used systemd.
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>>60487379
True but I'm not going to use the nouveau drivers so that's really not an option

Sorry RMS
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>>60487406
What is there to not understand? I hate the default macOS DE, but I have to use it for work because company policy.
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>>60487481
Quit your job.
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>>60487481
Wrong thread?
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>>60487468
Tbqh I know next to nothing about Void so I really can't help you, nor do I know anything about runit. Sorry man. I would use a distro with lots of documentation, Like gentoo and use OpenRC if you don't want to use systemd. Both are documented very well.

Best of luck.
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>>60487479
rms*
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>>60487363
Don't use nVidia :^)
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>>60487512
No worries, I'll keep searching then. Thanks for the help anyway.

I didn't really feel like using slackware, and I thought gentoo would be too annoying due to my patchy knowledge. I might try it out soon though, on my main machine.
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>>60487512
Why should anyone not want t use systemd? Is there anything wrong with it?
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>>60487571
Yes
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>>60487571
Not everyone likes being a cuckold.
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>>60487571
It's fine. Don't fall for the memes.
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Xubuntu is almost down.
Then I will make a new USB installer.
Then I will use it.
Should be ready and done by midnight
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>>60487625
Lol, why so long.
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>>60487625
think about a good user + hostname
that's the hardest part when installing gnu+linux
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>>60487625
good luck anon
what system are you coming from & what made you switch?
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>>60487024
why watch youtube videos in mpv?
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>>60487642
>why playing videos with a video player?
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>>60487642
All of my settings and shaders work with youtube
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>>60487639
From windows.
I'm not doing a complete switch, I just got my hands on an older system for free and decided to nuke windows. Create something clean from the ashes.

And archive system where I can dump my shit. Still have 350GB~ free space but every man should plan ahead.
And I need some kind of "adventure" in my life. Always wanted to try this out for real, but not at the expense of the main system.
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>>60487656
I don't mean to pry, but isn't easy to just visit YouTube in a web browser and click on whatever you want to watch? Instead of the extra step of copying the link address to the video etc. etc.
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>>60487619
>t. Red Hat employee
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>>60487656
>>60487687
this
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>>60487687
no
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>>60487632
I over calculate things.
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>>60487543
t-t-thanks

fug. I was just finally starting to come around to Cinnamon but now that I've noticed this it bugs me to no end
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>>60487750
>Ecs Dee
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Xubuntu disk, ready to engage.
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So, how do I get software again?
I remember someone saying something about a download manager of sorts that gets shit done.
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>>60488220
You get software in a GNU/Linux system via the package manager typically. In Ubuntu you would execute the following command
sudo apt-get install package-name
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>>60488220
a package manager will handle installing, removing and updating all the software on the system
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>>60488250
>>60488244
I can't install stuff on a live version of a Linux, right?
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>>60488390
GNU/Linux*
Sure you can.
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How do I set an environment variable when launching a program through the Openbox menu?

I tried the following but when I do cat /proc/PID/environ the environment variable doesn't show up.

<command>env VAR=VALUE /foo/bar</command>


<command>export VAR=VALUE; /foo/bar</command>


<command>export VAR=VALUE</command>
<command>/foo/bar</command>


<command>/foo/bar VAR=VALUE</command>
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>>60488407
While you are technically correct (the best kind of correct!), colloquially when someone mentions Linux, GNU/Linux is implied.
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>>60488407
Strange.
Aptitude doesn't show up, but mpv does.
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>>60488455
Technically, it's Linux/FreeBSD.
http://nintendotoday.com/nintendo-switch-linux/
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I've been using arch for a little over two weeks and have a question:

If I want to update everything should I use:
pacaur -Syu
pacaur -Syua
pacman -Syu

Or a combination of some of them?
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>>60488480
it's fine
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>>60488501
the first one
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>>60488522
Wrong pic? Creator of Linux is Richard Stallman.
https://www.yahoo.com/tech/linux-creator-says-windows-os-x-ios-android-105051135.html
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>>60488501
Syyu to update databases before you update
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what is the best music player?
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>>60488501
xbps-install -Suv
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>>60488648
ncpmdqwiodq + kqwpodqk
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>>60488648
Clementine
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>>60488648
mpv
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now I get it why you use this.
It makes you feel like a hacker.
I feel like I know the bare minimum to survive in the xubuntu environment.
I'm going to install it.
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>>
What do
foreground_bold =
foreground_dim =

do in termite? I want to make it so that when I have a lot of terminals open on one workspace, I can tell which one I'm controlling via the brightness of the font.
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How does software "respect my freedoms?" Software is a bunch of bytes stored on a disk. It can't respect anything because it isn't human.
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>>60488784
It's not the software that doesn't respect your freedom, it's the creators. Unfree software will often have surveillance, asshole creators/curators, refuse suggestions from the community, try to keep you from accessing/having control of your own computer (I'm looking at you, Windows), or all around have the attitude that they own your computer.

"With software there are only two possibilities: either the users control the program or the program controls the users. If the program controls the users, and the developer controls the program, then the program is an instrument of unjust power. "
--RMS
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>>60488821
>then the program is an instrument of unjust power
But people like that.
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>>60488851
Well yeah, obviously people enjoy having their privacy invaded and freedoms stripped. Why else would they defend the same unfree software over and over again?
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>>60488851
>implying "people" give a single fuck until the hell breaks out in form of abandoning or betraying
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>>60488851
That's a load of shit you idiot.
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>>60478181
That's what paranoid schizophrenia looks like, everyone.
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I was using ubuntu with unity, I have extras installed, today I was checking out xfce and lxde.

Quality of vids on sites like xhamster is much worse on xfce/lxde, where is the problem?

I was using the same browser with exact same plugins
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>>60488758
GNU/Linux*
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Which distributions are easiest to contribute to? I know it's extremely easy to package for Void.
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>>60489174
Maybe tearing. Install compton and try glx backend. It's the most heavy weight so try the other one or the hybrid too.
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>>60489174
install compton
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>>60489201
Gentoo. Unironically as they try to suck in everybody.
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>>60478181
does anyone have the original mockup that was posted on /q/? The link in the description is dead.
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>>60489235
this?
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>>60489281
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What is a minimal linux distro with the bare essentials with no extra preinstalled programs like arch, but also suitable for a newcomer
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>>60489334
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
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>>60489334
>with no extra preinstalled programs
>but also suitable for a newcomer
pick one

if you want something light, go with xubuntu
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Cheers /g/!
It's running smoothly!
Nuked the old windows.Can't shrug off the feeling that I will regret it later, but shuffling through the shit it had, there was nothing in it.
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>>60489334
literally in the OP

>What distro should I choose?
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Babbies_First_Linux

maybe KDE Plasma, it's just Kubuntu but without anything pre-installed...
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>>60489379
Welcome ~
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>>60489379
>not enabling legacy captcha
Do it.
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>>60489351
I'm terribly sorry for interjecting another moment, but what I just told you is GNU/Linux is, in fact, just Linux, or as I've just now taken to calling it, Just Linux. Linux apparently does happen to be a whole operating system unto itself and comprises a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Most computer users who run the entire Linux operating system every day already realize it. Through a peculiar turn of events, I was misled into calling the system "GNU/Linux", and until now, I was unaware that it is basically the Linux system, developed by the Linux project.

There really isn't a GNU/Linux, and I really wasn't using it; it is an extraneous misrepresentation of the system that's being used. Linux is the operating system: the entire system made useful by its included corelibs, shell utilities, and other vital system components. The kernel is already an integral part of the Linux operating system, never confined useless by itself; it functions coherently within the context of the complete Linux operating system. Linux is never used in combination with GNU accessories: the whole system is basically Linux without any GNU added, or Just Linux. All the so-called "GNU/Linux" distributions are really distributions of Linux.
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>>60489445
Already did it.
"Choosing the right street is a pain in the ass"
-Anonymous tourist in Amsterdam
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>>60489379
Welcome to the dark side
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>>60489494
Getting software is surprisingly easy.
I just type everything into the terminal and wa la, it's there. Amazing.
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>>60489515
install cmatrix
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>>60489526
kek
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>>60478135
I went for 3. Installed zesty ubuntu mate on my laptop, terminal it is glitchy af. I installed it on a Clevo 980m gpu. I have no idea how to fix, Im just gonna go for the LTS one. I tried searching but how do I distro hop from Linux to Linux with no rufus. Yes i'm a windows bby ;-; I'm trying to be committed for now to freedom
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>>60489481
Kekkity
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>>60489693
Unetbootin.

Also, stop listening to the idiots recommending Mate and shit... just take the easy way out and start with GNOME. It's a bit mobile-y but its beautiful and it works.
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>be me
>get thinkpad with preinstalled windows 10 on my HDD
>buy SSD instead, rip out WWAN card and stick ssd there, install linux
>Never use HDD anymore, even though windows is still sitting sadly on there

What cool stuff can I do with the "free" HDD? Open to meme-worthy suggestions, it's like 340GB anyway.
Or should I just set up some ad-hoc raid for backups?
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>>60489379
>Cheers
are you australian or new zealander?
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>>60489693
did I fall for a bad meme or will I go for a worse meme if I install arch or LTS, can somebody provide a guide most of what I find its from a windows conversion...
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>>60489858
Could be britbong too
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How do i edit the style of active window on the panel? I don't want it to be full blue. I am using xfce.
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>>60489884
Arch is kind of shit. It's for the people who want to customize their installation and waste hours and hours with their system.

Try Fedora, Ubuntu GNOME or Debian.
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>>60489857
Save 100k copies of your least favorite song.
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>>60489884
I dont mind mate but the terminal keeps on crapping out on me bad, everytime I try to update something on zesty it crashes
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>>60489923
>t. retard
It took me 10m to install and few hours to fully configure it. Now i enjoy using lightweight, fast, visually beautiful system.
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>>60489841
tried gnome in the past it was shit, worse than mate although it was when ubuntu had just rolled out 16
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>>60489948
>be me
>barely ever listen to music
I would if I had one.
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>>60489923
could it just be this release, I'll go to gnome LTS if I have to. I know arch is almost total control of you computer, I'll prob tried in a vm if I can get gnome first
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>>60489968
I've installed it multiple times and ran it for months. I can see the appeal for edgy teens wanting a customized system but I can't understand why anyone would seriously use Arch for anything productive. AUR is a poorly maintained hobbyist repository where people abandon packages all the time. As a result, many packages I need are actually way more outdated on Arch than on other distributions. Updates also break software, sure the situation can be fixed pretty quick but if I'm working I don't have time for that shit.

Sure it's minimal and fast but I need ~2k packages for work anyways (less on Arch as the distributions I use split the packages unlike Arch) so I can't just sit and watch at my <500 packages Arch neofetch all day.
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>>60489968
I've yet to try arch experience. how do I convert from zesty mate to arch? I tried the uneboootin over my terminal shit crashes and wont even mount my usb, is there another alternative? can anybody provide some reading material that will make me well versed over the weekend?
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>>60490043
Maybe you are right about work, but it's great as your personal home os. Also you can always compile latest versions of packages.
>inb4 MUH TIME
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I'm attempting to get my feet wet with Linux. Just installed Debian 8/GNOME on pic related, but it felt extremely sluggish. Just as bad if not worse than the version of Windows 7 Embedded I had on previously.

What should I try next? Really just want it to be able to quickly shitpost and play YouTube videos.
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>>60490021
If you didn't like GNOME, don't go for it. Personally I love MATE. The reason I recommended GNOME was because "it just works".

If you want your system to be a hobby and enjoy the little tinkering then sure, go for Arch. It's a good distribution for that. Personally I don't like Arch or the community but I can appreciate it for what it is. In fact, you can just go straight for Arch and if you don't feel like installing it just get Antergos. There's barely any reason to install Arch "the real way" anymore. Antergos is great. Just avoid Manjaro the userbase is full of kids and the devs are incompetent.
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>>60490080
Arch + XFCE, if you are willing to spare some time on configuration.
Void Linux is also an option.
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>>60490080
Reinstall Debian with Xfeces4.
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>>60490097
I wouldnt mind gnome. I think mate, gnome, kde neon are very good looking. I just want my shit to werk now and not glitch when all I'm doing is a command on bash. I went balls deep getting rid of windows, and I'm not going back
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>>60490144
If you want a working system asap, don't go for Arch. Even if most people on the board could set up a nice, working Arch in an hour, I doubt you can. If you think you'll enjoy the challenge, then go for it. You'll learn a bit, that's for sure.

If all you care about is a working system, I'd recommend staying with Ubuntu. Personally I've had lots of troubles with Ubuntu and for me the best out-of-the-box experiences have been Fedora and Debian with either GNOME, Xfeces or MATE.
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>>60489693
Linux is the same on all distros.
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I'm retarded and trying to choose between Debian and Ubuntu.
I know Ubuntu is more retard friendly but Debian is my likely end distro and if it's not too hardcore for a retarded winbabby such as myself I'd like to start and end my journey in the same install.
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>>60490622
debian is really easy to install
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>>60490080
threw manjaro openrc on an aging htpc. i bet it will do the trick. It's more friendly to newcomers to GNU/Linux than arch
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>>60490637
In that case I shall enter the fire and return anew, shiny and chrome.
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>>60490622
Debian is easier to use than Ubuntu. You don't need to mess with the PPA:s as the repository has like 60,000 packages. As for the installation, just make sure you have unallocated space on your hard drive and Debian will automatically install itself into said unallocated space.

Also, welcome! Debian has been my favorite distribution for years.
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Can we have a new thread, please?
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>>60490735
no
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