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I'm not even talking about Android users, I mean why would any Apple buyer go with the 8 instead of the X?

Isn't having a status symbol the most important part about owning an iPhone? What bigger status can an Apple user have than owning the company's 10th anniversary edition phone that's basically implied to be 2 generations ahead of the 8?

So who is the 8 marketed towards? Who wants to be that poor scrub in the Apple group who passed on the hottest phone of the decade that's been explicitly presented as superior to the 8 in every way?
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No Apple user will buy the iPhone 8. The target demography is Android users who up until now were too poor to afford a new iPhone, so Apple made an affordable new phone for them while consumers with more disposable income can go for the X.
I mean honestly who the fuck will buy the latest Samsung or Sony shit when they're essentially the same price as a recently released iPhone?
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>>62404261
>Sony
Literally no one is buying that regardless of price.
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>>62404261
They didn't make an affordable iPhone. It's just as expensive as previous ones. They just made one that's even more unaffordable on top.
>inb4 poorfag
No
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>>62404328
>It's just as expensive as previous ones
It's the same price as the high end android phones.
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>>62404343
yeah, but it's shittier. so what's your argument here?
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>>62404343
That's not what I'm contesting. The target demographic being "Android users who up to now were too poor to afford an iPhone" makes no sense since it's literally the same price as before. Making an even more expensive one doesn't magically make the other ones more affordable.
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Iphone 8 is better than x. It has a home button, touch id, so no need to align the phone with your face to unlock. I would be even better if it didn't include "wireless" charging
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>>62404355
It's not shittier though. Everything from the camera to the screen, battery life is all better on the iphone. The only downside is their GUI which I personally think needs some improvements.
Their main competitor on the android market is Samsung and their last device literally exploded in peoples' pocket. You can't possibly compare the two. At this point the only competition they have is the low end android devices which are targeted at people who can't afford an iphone, The high end of the market though? CORNERED by Apple!
Sorry but not sorry.
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>>62404365
I'm pretty sure the 8 is more expensive at release than the 7 was, which makes his argument even more stupid.
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>>62404261
>can't afford $20,000 car
>company also makes $50,000 car
>now I suddenly can afford the $20,000 car
????????????????
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>>62404387
could you possibly shill any harder?
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>>62404217
I don't own an iPhone 6S as a status symbol. I own it because I could get it for cheap (2 free 6S's with a 2 year contract costing me 80/month total), and because it wasn't andoird (tried 4 different androids, one of them a top-of-the-line one, and hated them all). That's like saying Toyota is a status symbol because some people purchase Lexus cars.
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>>62404365
I used a poor choice of word. I wasn't talking about all Android users, but the high end ones.
The kind of consumer who buys the latest samsung can now buy the latest standard iphone, while the iphone x moved to the luxury market and is competing with devices like Vertu or the Porsche Design.
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>>62404420
>luxury market
>porsche design
sides == in orbit.
how do you even take anything you say seriously yourself?
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>>62404420
They have been able to do that for years
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>>62404439
the newest porsche design costs as much as the iphone x, retard.
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>>62404217

>Why would anyone buy the iX

Because they can afford it, you fucking povvo.
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>>62404443
This. It's weird how Apple shills don't get it - we can all afford the iPhone, we simply choose other phones.
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>>62404420
>can now buy the latest standard iphone
It's the SAME price. Why would high-end Android customers now switch to the iPhone 8, if the price has not changed from the iPhones before it? Are you reading what you're typing?
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>>62404217
Just recently switched to babby's first Alcatel smartphone from my old dumbphone.

It came with Android Kitkat and I fucking hate it. It's not enough to make me buy Apple shit. But I still have to wonder if Android fans are literally retarded or not. Android is a bad OS any way you look at it.
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>>62404467
Maybe in America theyre the same price? In Europe there's a significant difference in price between the newest iphone and high end android phones.
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>tfw I still use iphone 4
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>>62404491
>complaining about a 2013 OS
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>>62404519
Someone gave me an iPhone 4 to try out, after I had tried a Casio Commando, a Moto Droid 3, an HTC Rhyme, and an LG Optimus (can't remember the exact model of Optimus), and found all of them so bad that I switched back to a dumbphone for 4 years.

It's amazing how much better the iPhone 4 was compared to those phones, even though some of them came out long after it. The iPhone 4 is the reason I have a smartphone today.
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>>62404455
>Why would anyone buy the iX
Good reading comprehension.
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>>62404498
>Prices start at £699 for the 64GB iPhone 8

>In the UK, the Samsung Galaxy S8 will be available at £689
>Some sources have speculated a price tag of around $700, some £540 converted. (LG V30)
The price is the same or less.
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>>62404545
Here I am complaining. Maybe they should fix their dumbfuck, unintuitive trash before they shit it out on consumers.

Just goes to show you that smartphones are for smartphone zombies who are okay with whatever.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anchoring

that's the point.
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I like bezels.
-iphone 7s owner
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>>62404611
I can't tell you if android has improved, but Gingerbread was so fucking bad, no matter which phone that I used, that I flat out refuse to use Android anymore. The fact that people used that OS, and thought it was acceptable, told me all I needed to know about Android.
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>>62404624
wait it's just-7
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>>62404634
Mind if I ask why you got the 7 instead of the 6S? I couldn't see a reason to justify the extra cost (and, in hindsight, I can't see the reason to justify the 6S over the SE unless you really want the bigger screen - 3D Touch just isn't worth it).
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>>62404261
>Android users who up until now we're too poor to afford a new iPhone

Nigga that's a bunch of LOL you got there. It wasn't because of the price, it was because iPhone was years behind and severely lacking in innovation. Not only that but you gotta do it the CrApple way.

Android users prefer to be able to do this and that, plus many more that you can't even do on an iPhone unless you jailbreak it, which is stupid to do.
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>>62404633
Android was unusable before kitkat. Iphone was never usable. For that reason I sticked with dumbphones until 2014.
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>>62404663
what do you use now?
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>>62404663
Yeah. I honestly can't believe that people were willing to use Android back in the day. It wasn't even close. In terms of utility, it was literally iPhone>dumb phones>Android. Blackberry was always its own thing (very good if you needed what they offered, pretty expensive if you didn't), so I'm omitting them, because they always filled a niche need extraordinarily well.
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>>62404686
Oneplus 5.
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>>62404661
>be able to do this and that,
You mean things like apps messing the filepath every time a new os update is released?
Also stop pretending Jewgle doesn't push their retarded shit in your face way more than apple does. You literally have to manually disable its "location services" which includes asking for a review every time you walk into a supermarket and demanding to know if the McDonalds you just drove by has seats for children.
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>>62404217
Why would anybody buy an iPhone?
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>>62404617
>5 ft 8
>dwarf
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>>62404721
Because some people purchased Android back in the day, and aren't willing to give them another chance.
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>>62404693
My first phone was the G1. I passed on the iPhone because it was so butt ugly and slow. Then I upgraded to several Android phones since then because the iPhone still looked butt ugly.

iOS sucked so hard, I hated the interface and it was almost impossible to click on something to open, while on ANY Android device, I could open anything with ease.

You can go ahead and place the iPhone in the dumbphone category because it has always been one and will continue to be one until Tim Crook gets busted for child pornography.
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iphone x:
2.34ghz quad core A11 CPU
3gb ram
~3200mAh battery
1080p OLED
USB-C

HOLY SHIT THEY ARE USING LAST GEN TECH
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>>62404717
Block notification or opt out. Simple as that, you dumb shill!
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>>62404721
So they won't morph into iShills and act dumb and retarded.
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>>62404748
I'm glad you found something that you like. Personally, I found that the iPhone 4 (released mid 2010) mopped the floor with the Moto Droid 3 (released more than a full year later), which was the flagship phone of Android at the time.

I guess we just have different tastes. Personally, I don't give a shit how the phone looks, only how well it works.
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>>62404748
>the G1
What phone is that? There are tons of android phones called the G1. HTC? Geotel? RCA?
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>>62404786
iPhone worked fine because of their minimalistic, simple interface that works for kids 7 and under and for old farts.

Are you a kid or an old fart? I'm thinking the latter because you sound like an old fart.

Moto 3 was a failure, not even a flagship phone. It was over hyped and marketed too much. There were other better Android phones that beat the iPhone anyways.
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>>62404825
Guess it depends on what you define as old. I'm 31.
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>>62404816
HTC obviously. I was talking about the first Android phone.
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>>62404217
Good question

I was gifted a 6s Plus after the Note7 debacle last year and hate this fucking phone more everyday. Now that it randomly stops charging and the fingerprint sensor doesn't work anymore I'm stuck wondering why the fuck people spend all their money on these """""premium""""" phones. I'll be buying an S8 in the next few days.
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That notch though
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Do any of you phone people know anything about this thing?

It's older and I've heard mixed reviews but I'm attracted to it for some reason.
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>>62404845
I have a 6S, and, even with a lifeproof case on it, my fingerprint sensor still works (of course, I don't use it to actually unlock the phone, only to get into some apps quicker once the phone is unlocked).
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>>62404725
>the joke


>your head
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>>62404855
Looks like it was made by DeWalt.
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>>62404896
So it reminds you of a durable nail gun.
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>>62404860
There are just so many features and improvements I miss from Samsung phones. The app store is annoying and the thing just feels like a stupid toy and not a premium phone. The S8 looks better than the $1000 iPhone X.
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>>62404910
Ok. I'm not interested in defending Apple. I'm of the opinion that people should get what they want if its at a price they are comfortable paying. All I was saying was that my fingerprint sensor still worked, even with a waterproof case over it.
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>>62404930
Yeah, I know. Just ranting.

I googled "Touch ID not working" and apparently this is an issue. The fingerprint sensors on iPhones are dogshit to begin with anyway. Any moisture or weird angles and it doesn't work when it worked instantly and perfectly no matter what on my Note 7.
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>>62404846
The notch is nice. It lets you orient the phone without opening it.
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>>62404930
IPhones are good for dumb narcissists while Android phones are good for intelligent users who use it for function over appearance.

Sounds like you're vain.
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>>62404944
Then maybe that's why my sensor still works. Dunno. I won't say that the lifeproof case looks particularly good, but again, I didn't buy an iPhone because I wanted a good looking phone. I wanted a smartphone that "just werkz," and have had horrible experience with Android.
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>>62404952
>Sounds like you're vain
Yeah. That's why I put a case on it that makes it look like it was made by Nerf.
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>>62404261
I have 1.7 million dollars in my bank account.
I've never owned an apple product.
It's one of the reason why I have 1.7 million dollars in my bank account and you don't. You wouldn't be a poor fag if you didn't waste your money on junk.
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>>62404217
>ITT people who don't run or manage a business
iPhone 8 is a perfectly good solution if you were to purchase bulk for your employees on the same business mobile plan

Currently our team has iPhone SE
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>>62404996
>1.7 million in bitcoins
lel
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>>62404970
>just werkz

haha, this is what I can't stand the most. People parrot this "iPhone just works" meme but the Note 7 I had was so much more intuitive.

Go type ilililili on your iPhone and try to use your finger to place a cursor in the place you want and see how miserably it fails.

Want to take a screenshot and instantly edit it to show someone something? Can't do that on your iPhone.

Want an app? It's probably free on the Play Store and costs money on the App Store.

Enjoy pressing the screen firmly? Have fun dealing with 3D Touch constantly.

Autocorrect is terrible. No haptic keyboard. No always-on display. No notification lights.

Am I missing something?
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This thread made me realise some people are genuinely mentally retarded.

They made the iPhone 8 more expensive than the 7 at launch (because it starts at 64 GB) and some people are perceiving this as if the iPhone 8 is more affordable phone simply because there's an even more outrageously overpriced phone from Apple.

No wonder they're the most profitable company in the world...
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>>62405037
>haha, this is what I can't stand the most. People parrot this "iPhone just works" meme but the Note 7 I had was so much more intuitive.
Maybe they should have released that back when I tried 4 separate android phones, and found them all to be shit.

>Go type ilililili on your iPhone and try to use your finger to place a cursor in the place you want and see how miserably it fails.
Didn't have a problem. I literally just held my finger down, and a magnification circle appeared, and let me put the cursor exactly where I wanted it.

>Want to take a screenshot and instantly edit it to show someone something? Can't do that on your iPhone.
Wouldn't know, never tried. I would just email it to myself and use GIMP. But I just tried, pic related.

>Want an app? It's probably free on the Play Store and costs money on the App Store.
That's an awfully vague challenge.

>Enjoy pressing the screen firmly? Have fun dealing with 3D Touch constantly.
I haven't had an issue with it, so it works for me.

>Autocorrect is terrible.
Who uses that, aside from illiterates?

>No haptic keyboard.
I'm fine with the click sound, but: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/haptic-keyboard-for-iphone-7/id1231761863?mt=8

>No always-on display.
I never wanted that, so no issue for me.

>No notification lights.
I specifically DON'T want that, so that's a win for me.
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Forgot pic from >>62405121
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>>62404217
>I mean why would any Apple buyer go with the 8 instead of the X?
Because it has most of the new features of the X while retaining the home button and non-retarded top display notch.

The iPhone8 is marketed towards the less retarded iPhone users.
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>>62405121
>I literally just held my finger down, and a magnification circle appeared, and let me put the cursor exactly where I wanted it.

lul exactly

so intuitive

>Who uses that, aside from illiterates?

people who type quickly

>I'm fine with the click sound, but: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/haptic-keyboard-for-iphone-7/id1231761863?mt=8

so intuitive

>I don't want a bunch of extremely useful features

Sorry that you're retarded I guess.

Apple fanboys baka
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>>62404652
It was the newest, also it was the one with the jet black color. Turned out kinda shitty even.
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>>62404261
This would only make sense if the iPhone 8 was actually less expensive then previous models. At first I couldn't believe I had to explain this but then I realized I was replying to an iPhone user. . .
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>>62405194
>Exactly. So intuitive.
Yeah. Seems to be. Intuitive enough that I could literally take a screenshot while doing it.

>people who type quickly
You should do things right, rather than expecting something to correct your mistakes.

>so intuitive
I never claimed that it was intuitive, but it's an option that meets your demands, no?

>Sorry that you're retarded I guess.
Believe it or not, not everyone has the same wants/needs. I don't care if you don't like the iPhone, and have a phone that you like. I'm not even an Apple fanboy. It just happens to be the only smart phone that I've found bearable. If you don't, then get something you like. That doesn't make me a worse person for not liking what you like, though.
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>>62404855
I had the phone for a good while. I actually really liked it while I had it; great keyboard, good camera for its time, it felt extremely durable, and I appreciated the square design (both ergonomically and screen-wise). Battery wasn't the greatest, though, and while it was a great dumbphone, the smartphone wave was rolling in with the iPhone 3G[S], Droid, etc. and, well, Sprint...

The original carousel menu was cool looking at the time and showed off your background, but slow. You could change it back to a classic tile menu which was faster but hid your background.

I actually had the purple variant. Still love the design; paint would chip, though. Overall solid device for the time.
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>>62405258
>Yeah. Seems to be. Intuitive enough that I could literally take a screenshot while doing it.

Shouldn't is just work in the the first place? I thought iPhones "just werk"

>You should do things right, rather than expecting something to correct your mistakes.

Again, shouldn't iPhones "just werk". This is another case of my Samsung phone just working better.

I don't see a single thing that the iPhone does better than the latest Samsung phones in the "just werkz" category.
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>>62404455
I can afford lots of things I'm not going to buy. This is the most retarded agrument
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>>62405281
>Shouldn't is just work in the the first place? I thought iPhones "just werk"
How is it not working?

>Again, shouldn't iPhones "just werk".
How is it not working?

>This is another case of my Samsung phone just working better
Ok. I'm glad that it "works better." That doesn't mean that the iPhone isn't working, though.

>I don't see a single thing that the iPhone does better than the latest Samsung phones in the "just werkz" category.
Probably because wants and needs are entirely subjective. I found that the Casio Ravine 2 "just worked" better than any Android phone I've ever used.
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Why would I buy a $1000 phone I can't plug my $1200 IEMs into?
But finally it has wireless charging which I've been using for the past 5 years and was one of the nope no way without it features the iPhone was missing.
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>>62405318
>How is it not working?

Can't tap. You have to press and hold for some gimmicky magnifying glass software workaround bullshit.

>How is it not working?

I though it was fairly well-known how terrible iPhone autocorrect is, no?

>Ok. I'm glad that it "works better." That doesn't mean that the iPhone isn't working, though.

But that's Apple's selling point. "It just works!"

I haven't used other Android phones but iPhones really don't have anything on the latest Samsung phones in terms of usability.

Once again, it comes down to the fact that you're paying more money for an ultimately inferior product.

Apple fanboys have completely dropped the argument that iPhones are superior phones. They aren't even the most usable phones anymore. Just a stupid meme.
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>>62405375
>Can't tap. You have to press and hold for some gimmicky magnifying glass software workaround bullshit.
Ok. Couldn't "just tap," with any degree of accuracy with any Android phone I used, so I argue that Apple's solution is actually better.

>I though it was fairly well-known how terrible iPhone autocorrect is, no?
I wouldn't know, as I don't use it. But, to my knowldge, Autocorrect DOES, "just work," even if it doesn't work to your satisfaction.

>But that's Apple's selling point. "It just works!"
And nothing you've stated has anything to do with something not working.

>I haven't used other Android phones but iPhones really don't have anything on the latest Samsung phones in terms of usability.
Ok. That doesn't mean that iPhones don't just work.

>Once again, it comes down to the fact that you're paying more money for an ultimately inferior product.
I got 2 iPhone 6S's for free with a 2 year contract that costs just as much as what I was paying for my MVNO.

>Apple fanboys have completely dropped the argument that iPhones are superior phones.
Not an apple fanboy, and I've never made that argument.
>They aren't even the most usable phones anymore. Just a stupid meme.
Matter of opinion, there. I haven't tried the latest Galaxy phone, but I have yet to have a satisfying experience with android, and I REALLY wanted Android to be satisfying. My "favorite" android that I've ever used is still ranked worse than my most hated dumbphone.
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>>62404409
>80/month total
LMAOing at you. Posting from my 15 bucks 50GB 4G data plan.
Multiply (80-15) by how many months your retarded contract lasts and tell me again how you got your phone for cheap, even if you got two lol, I bet you'll bleed that money for 24 months.
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>>62405166
>The iPhone8 is marketed towards the less retarded iPhone users.
So marketed towards nobody.
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I never bought any Apple product that wasn't designed by Jobs
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>>62404261
Personally bought a Samsung s8 yesterday while watching the keynote. Apple smugness is infuriating.
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>>62405354
So you're getting it now, right?
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>>62404355
> it's shittier
You are delusional.
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>>62404217
Gotta check Instagram
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I Just ordered an iPhone 8 for an employee, and an iPhone X for another.
He just wanted the 8, I guess because it has a button or something.
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>>62404217
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>>62404217
Because Touch ID is better, I can unlock my phone without looking at it and I won't look like a prick in a shop queue when I'm about to pay.
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>>62409675
Neither one are even open for orders?
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For such a premium cost Apple really should be including the AirPods in the box with the iPhone X
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I would probably get the 8 if I want to upgrade and my monthly bill remain the same considering that the X would raise it and lack of 120Hz screen like the iPad Pro doesn't really interest me on the X enough for me to increase my monthly bill.
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>>62413891
or they should have ditched iPhone 8 and just offer X for $699 instead
we'll just have to wait for iPhone sales to drop
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>>62404261
Galaxy s8 already destroyed them lol
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>>62404217
Why did they pull a Microsoft and call the 7s an 8 and the 8 a 10?
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>>62405264
Sexy as fuck dumbphone.
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>>62404617
implying her don't suckle them teets
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>>62416686
Because 7 ate 9.
;^)
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>>62404403
Quantum logic
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>>62404217
7 plus user here, I'm considering selling and going for the 8 plus, solely for wireless charging.

I don't think so though, none of them look as good as the jet black finish.
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>>62405037
>Go type ilililili on your iPhone and try to use your finger to place a cursor in the place you want and see how miserably it fails.
...or just use force touch which your 6S had and maneuver between text with far increased accuracy?
https://youtu.be/XlcCgiYF2Fs?t=25s
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Face ID is a really bad idea.

Let's imagine for a moment that there's a scale with only one horizontal axis. Further to the left is security, while further to the right is convenience.
A number code is very far to the left; it's probably the most secure way to lock your phone but gets really annoying to have to punch in those digits any time you want to do anything besides take a photo.
Further to the right is Face ID. Incredibly convenient but also dangerously easy to surpass.
Touch ID would be somewhere in the middle; it's less secure than a pass code but much more convenient. Touch ID can be surpassed, yes, but only with a lot of time and resources and a big chunk of money spent in the process. Someone would have to steal your phone, steal your fingerprint by somehow getting a picture where your fingerprints are clear enough to replicate, then replicate your fingerprints onto a silicone print. Someone would only do that if you were important enough to go through all of that for your information; say, if you were a politician with dirt or a celebrity or something.
Meanwhile, Face ID can be surpassed if, say, I'm talking to someone with my iPhone X sitting on a table between us and they just decide to take my phone, point it at me and swipe up. That's all they have to do to get in. Takes no effort or time or money, really.
Besides, fingerprints are much more reliable anyway; they work in many more environments than facial recognition technologies do. Doesn't matter if your finger is moist or damp, upside down or not, doesn't matter if you're inside or outside, in the dark or in broad sunlight; 'it just werx.' Face ID, despite being better than standard Face Unlock due to the fact that it makes a 3D mapping of your face rather than just taking a picture, still sucks because it wouldn't work 100% of the time like a fingerprint sensor would.

I don't hate bezels enough to sacrifice both security and convenience to get rid of them. I don't think anyone does.
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>>62405037
I mean, I totally understand why people hate the iPhone but you just listed some of the most retarded reasons I've ever heard.
Were your parents siblings?
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Some people just want an iOS device and don't care about having the latest/greatest device and think the SE is too small I guess.

If you're invested into the Apple ecosystem and want the 5 years of updates, and physical stores that will do repairs and replacements it makes sense. As someone who likes things that last, I run my phones into the ground. My 5 year old Nexus got really slow and unwieldy. My 5 year old iPhone was still pretty fast.

I now have an iPhone 7 that I got an amazing deal on when I bought it outright and plan to use it for the next 4 years.
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>>62405436
Personally am an android user, but I think that the hold to accurately select is a neat feature
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>>62404328
This is the first time they have had so many models out.
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>>62423096
That doesn't make it in any way more affordable. See >>62404403
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>>62405318
I had one of those Casios, definitely my favorite phone of all time.
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>>62404996

You're some kind of statistical anomaly, everyone's poor on the internet in general. That's because poor people can't afford real life so they have to live it through computer screen.
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>>62404217
I've got a 6s and I'm upgrading to an 8 plus

No Touch ID (with current state of face ID at least) means it's a no from me doggo.

>Isn't having a status symbol the most important part about owning an iPhone?

Oh didn't realise this was a troll post
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>>62404387
When did the note 8 explode?
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I probably would if I need a new iPhone. I like the home button.
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>>62404217
Couldn't give two shits about "status" and I try to keep my use of Apple stuff subtle. It's just the comfiest to use, especially if you're in the whole ecosystem.

I'd go with 8 over X for TouchID and to lose that stupid notched display
Hell, I have an SE which cost a third and still value it over the X for TouchID and the lack of stupid notched display.
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>>62404498
>>62404585
s8 (on Samsung Store) and iPhone 8 are the same price in France.
So that mean you can get the s8 on Amazon way cheaper than the iPhone 8
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I'm not going to lie, the iPhone X is the phone closest to perfection and I've never really been interested in iPhones

I can't afford one right now without a payment plan so I won't get one though, well I don't really need one either but it'd be cool to have one is what I'm saying
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Nobody will be buying the 8 and that's the point.

Apple prenteds they offer a choice, but they actually force their fanboys to buy the more expensive X model. It's just typical Apple marketing schemes and tricks.




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