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If you're looking for purchase advice, READ THE BUYERS GUIDE FIRST. Then post, stating budget and requirements (e.g. size and performance).
>Don't buy anything OTHER THAN P, T, X, and W SERIES if you want the Real Business Experience™

Recommended IBM models:
X60, X61, T60, T61, 860, Transnote, PC110

Recommended old models:
X200, W500

Recommended modern models:
X220 - 12", 768x1366, cheap and light
T420 - normal size, 14", 900x1600
T520 - 15", 1080p, Quadcore-CPUs
W520 - desktop replacement, 15", USB 3.0

Last good models:
X230 - 12", USB 3.0, IPS option avaiable, classic keyboard installable
T440p - 14", last ThinkPad to have replacable CPUs, 1080p IPS displays avaiable
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Why ThinkPad?
>Used machines are plentiful and cheap.
>Excellent keyboards - tactile feel and quiet.
>Great durability: chassis uses a magnesium rollcage for structural integrity, with high quality plastic body panels.
>Utilitarian design: e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models.
>Docking stations that easily turns your laptop into a desktop.
>Easy to repair, upgrade and maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for every model. Spare parts are easy and cheap to obtain.
>The best trackpoint (that red thing in the middle of the keyboard). Great for those who type a lot or hate swiping their fingers all over a touchpad.
>Excellent GNU/Linux & *BSD support.
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Used ThinkPad Buyers Guide:
http://ktgee.net/tpg

New guides by xsauc:
http://www.dankpads.com

ThinkWiki - Info on ThinkPads and running GNU/Linux on them:
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki

ThinkPad service guides w/ tutorial videos:
https://www.lenovoservicetraining.com/

ThinkPad wallpaper collection:
https://imgur.com/a/NlepZ
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>>62409903
xx30 > xx20
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Asking again:
Do you install Libreboot before or after installing your OS? The instructions for flashing include using "flashrom -p internal -V" to find out the flash chip size, which implies that GNU/Linux is already installed (or being run as a live image?).
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x200
p8600 and a 256gb ssd sandisk

100 euros

now time to order wificards and libreboot it

screen is very dim is there a thing I can do about this
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Anyone got any info on the availability of the t420s/t430s FHD conversion boards?
https://forum.thinkpads.com//viewtopic.php?t=122224
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>>62409913
Last one was too big, this should work.
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>>62410037
Ok, when I save that on my laptop it turns into a 31kb file.
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>>62410051
Alright cool, running this image now with the bios application.
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>>62410092
Works on mine, gl
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>>62410092
it'll look streched if your memepad is 16:9 though
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>>62410051
>>62410104

Yep works on mine as well. Thanks anon! What software did u use?
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What the fuck, has RAM become more expensive all of a sudden? £76 for 8GB? You're taking the piss.
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>>62410167
Paint and http://compressjpeg.com/ because I have no idea what I'm doing.

You can probably just do it with GIMP.

>>62410168
DDR3 or DDR4? The latter is being used in phones, which fucked up pricing.
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>>62410167
By the way, there's a BIOS option in Startup to turn off the "interrupt normal startup" option. It'll still let you do it, it just won't display it.

Not sure how to get rid of the black bar at the bottom that flashes up though.
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>>62410216
DDR3. Maybe it was always this expensive, but I don't remember spending that much when I bought 8GB for my T410 two years ago.
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>>62410249
No idea why that's spiking.
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>>62410239
This one.
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>not adding the dell laptops to the OP
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>>62409935
Live image.
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>>62410287
Giving this a shot too.
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Just got an X61T. How do I get screen rotation working on Linux? The rotate button on the screen works, but the pen doesn't update accordingly so my input is all inverted when the screen is flipped.
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>>62410335
Woo.
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>>62409935
Doesn't really matter, as long as you have a GRUB config in your boot partition it'll boot.
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Looking for suggestions for a every day use Thinkpad. Am looking to use it as a launch pad for Linux learning and general web surfing as well as study for work (videos). Not going to really use it for much else aside from a portable laptop. Would like a 14 inch screen. Cost isn't a factor, but would prefer something cheap. Any suggestions?
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Anyone know how to get rid of some of these bootloaders? I cleared the EFI already and reimaged my hd a couple of times, but these never leave.
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Got my t400 in the mail. Need a hard drive and charger and I'm set. Does Linux have drivers for the phone modem? Probably going to install Windows 7 at first because it has a key taped on the bottom and I want to see how all the ThinkPad features work.
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>>62410330
T440p chiclet keyboard here.

>tfw the weeb keyboard fucked up my wpm to ~60 or so avg because of the tiny spacebar
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>>62410772
Japs don't like spaces, it's the reason they're so crowded and started WW2.
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>>62410772
The E6440 is actually rubber dome, but it feels really good to type on. It's very soft unlike scissor/chiclet keys. I hope to get 110 once I get used to it more.
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>>62410092

wait this works on a Tx30 without flashing the bios?
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>>62411057
no u flash it, but an application automatically detects if there is a change to the bios file b4 doing it.
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>>62411075
>no u flash it, but an application automatically detects if there is a change to the bios file b4 doing it.

What?

Does this require a hardware flash, or is it through a program?
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>>62410963
I'm a sinner that enjoys typing on the chiclet keyboard over the t420 classic keyboard however the layout of the classic keyboard is miles better, this one sucks dick and doesn't even have media controls.

>>62410819
lel
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This is a really specific question but I come to you at my darkest hour.

Does anyone know where I can find an EDID dump for a ThinkPad T450s 1080p screen? I'm specifically looking for dumps from either Lenovo FRU 00HT622 or 04X5916

I have the panel but the idiots who sent it to me flashed the EDID to come generic LG panel, meaning that the Lenovo blacklist doesn't allow me to adjust the screen brightness, and it's on 100% all the time.

I know how to flash it but I need the original Lenovo EDID.
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>>62411112
Through a program... All through a program u can install from the official thinkpad site. Comes with instructions on how to make custom bios imgs as well.
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Anyone here with enough free time willing to test if this bios logo works?

I'm on battery so the thing doesn't allow me to flash the bios without the AC adapter plugged in.
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>>62410768
>Does Linux have drivers for the phone modem?
Do you mean tethering? Because any android phone can give you that and Linux autodetects it.
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>>62411400
No I mean dial up modem. I don't want to lose that feature.
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what is the optimal T430 and x230 cpu?
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>>62411482
>T430
whatever ivy bridge you want, upgradeable cpu

>x230
whatever you get, soldered cpu
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>>62411447
Yes, it has all the drivers.
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>>62411529
im assuming don't go for T430s then? also if i get a 3320M can i upgrade to a 3520M?
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>>62411578
T430s (as in slim, s-versions) have a soldered cpu as well.

>also if i get a 3320M can i upgrade to a 3520M?
If it's the normal T430, yeah. I don't see the point in going from a dual core i5 to a dual core i7 (which is pretty much just a slightly higher clocked i5), either go quad core i7 or stay with the dual core i5.
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>>62411578
http://ark.intel.com/products/64899/Intel-Core-i7-3610QM-Processor-6M-Cache-up-to-3_30-GHz

No point sticking to a dual core if you do upgrade.
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>>62411261
That comes out really well anon, nice.
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>>62411617
>>62411622
thanks for the info, im assuming T430 can only go so high without heating issues.
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>>62411665
Don't get an extreme edition, but a 3610 should work fine. Turn turbo off/throttle it a tiny bit if it doesn't.
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>>62411665
It'll do alright with a 45W TDP processor, same as the T420. Not splendid but just "alright", you can also get one of those 35W TDP quad cores (same TDP as the dual cores) or throttle the TDP a bit.

It'll crash your thinkpad with no survivors if you use 55W TDP XM processors though.
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>>62411721
>>62411748

>>62411617
>>62411622

Are two universes colliding?
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>>62411721
awesome thanks for the info, now i don't have to spend as many shekels.

>>62411748
XM is a big cpu

should I get a T530 to be safe? I don't care for weight as my old laptop is heavy as fuck.
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My t420 is coming in the mail Friday!
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>>62411780
If you can find one for a similar price, yeah. Don't know where you are but they tend to be more expensive because there's less ex-enterprise ones floating around.
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>>62411780
Sure if you don't mind the size, you also get a FHD screen option with the T5xx and W5xx
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>>62411815
>>62411802
FHD sounds nice, I'll look around and see if i can find one for a good price, thanks for the help!
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>>62411656
Ayy nice, thanks anon.

Finally did something right in my life, mom would be proud.
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120 GB mSATA arrives tomorrow to make company for stock 320 GB HDD

Best configs for Linux+Windows?
Windows and Linux on mSATA and HDD for shared storage?
Windows on mSATA, Linux and shared storage on HDD?
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How does this look?

http://m.ebay.ie/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T440p-Notebook-Intel-Core-i5-2x-2-6GHz-8GB-RAM-500GB-HDD-Win10-/352146866562?

I'm in 1st year in college and I need a laptop and its kind of hard to find second hand think pads in ireland, most of the t520s ive found only have 900p screen there's some t420s for 200 euro is that good? Should I bother looking for higher price 600+ models off Amazon etc. That aren't think pads?
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>tfw no T430/440 with a US layout nearby
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>>62411980
Linux is good on HDD, it's still much faster than Windows. I'd go with 64 GB (for nice number, depends on how bloated your Linux will get when you use it) for Linux partition on HDD, everything else for data such as animu, and mSATA for Windows.
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>>62412050
What layouts are by you anon?
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Got a X220 recently and I'm loving it so far. The only complaint is the fan revs up on the most basic of tasks. Is this a common problem, anyway I can improve temperature hardware and software wise?
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>>62412076
proll ansi
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>>62412050
where are you from?

if you're near i'll give you a 440p ANSI US keyboard for free, hate that layout
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>>62411872
No problem. I've added it to my album, but I still need to figure out a good place to host it. Trying to setup a booru now, never used it before.
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>>62411980
>Windows and Linux on mSATA and HDD for shared storage?
I'd go with this one, make the pagefile small, disable hibernation and Windows will use way less space.
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Dumb simple question, would this card work in an X220? I do have the BIOS unlocked.
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>>62412104
http://biosimage.booru.org/index.php

pls help
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What's the best ram for the t430? Also will flashing the keyboard patch unlock the ram multiplier lock?
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Do they make the brick shithouse ones with good specs now?
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x220 here, can i install the whitelist bios and have a custom bios image?
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>>62412218
Add this.
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>>62412396
yes

dumb frogposter
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>>62412414
How do i do this? Have attempted to google solutions and shit but can't find a method
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>>62412397
Done. Anything I have to do to make uploads/tagging public?
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>>62412447
read the bios_logo.txt in the bios folder

dumb frogposter

>>62412448
>make uploads/tagging public?
isn't this going to fuck up everything with "le ebin trols xd"?
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>>62412468
Rephrasing - a way to do it pending approval? If not I'll just try and stay on top of it myself but at the very least having public uploads would help a shit ton when it comes to collecting these.
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>>62411656
How would one do this :o
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>>62412585
Install BIOS Update Utility for your specific thinkpad, read "bios_logo.txt" in that folder for specific instructions.

General rule of thumb - 640x480, 30kb max.
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Hi /tpg/, I'm the anon who ordered a W520 and I wanted to know how many 2.5" laptop data drives it can fit, its bretty thick so I thought I'd be able to fit two, and I wanted to ask about how easy it is to replace the palmrest and if its worth it to replace, thanks.
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>>62412666
check'd satan

>how many 2.5" laptop data drives it can fit
3, two 2.5" + an msata ssd drive.

>how easy it is to replace the palmrest
google "w520 hmm" for the hardware maintenance manual

>if its worth it to replace
not really, unless you have the version without the fingerprint scanner and you'd like to have one but seems like you already got the one with the fingerprint scanner
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>>62412666
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:W520
>One of the following storage options ...
>Ultrabay Enhanced with one of the following ...
i.e. 2 if you replace the Serial UltraBay Enhanced DVD Burner II with an adapter.
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Ultrabay#Compatibility
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Ultrabay_Slim_Serial/Parallel_Port_Adapter
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Ultrabay_Slim_HDD_Adapter
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>>62410753
I have this problem too... I liked installing a new linux distro every week and now it is crowded. Anyone know a fix?
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>>62412735
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Ultrabay_Slim_SATA_HDD_Adapter
Meant to post this instead of http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Ultrabay_Slim_Serial/Parallel_Port_Adapter
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>>62412518
Figured it out, there is a public upload option.

http://biosimage.booru.org/

I'll probably regret this, but can someone try and get this into the next OP?
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>>62412091
Mine did this on Win7 and Win10,

On my Arch install it's quiet as. It'll spin up if I'm streaming something, or browsing very heavy web apps or using an IDE.

I've since removed those Windows versions and replaced it with Win10 LTSB - It's a version of Win10 with a gimped botnet and no forced updates.
No faggy metro apps in it either. Doesn't even have their new browser. It runs very smoothly now. No fan raging on idle. About as quiet as Arch now although it's still more resource intensive.
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>>62413132
>replaced it with Win10 LTSB
I wanted to do this but i can't make the modded T440p work on W10 so no trackpoint buttons.
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>>62413277
What do you mean? I'm planning to buy one of those. Fuck lol. I can't see what the issue would be.
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>>62413344
I assume he's replaced the original trackpad with the one from the XX50 series.
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>>62413364
Aye. That'll be a given when I buy it. Wouldn't look twice otherwise. I'll be interested to hear more on this. it'll be disappointing but not a deal breaker, Win10 is my secondary OS anyway. Games and some proprietary shite as and when.
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I am in the market for a new laptop. I understand this thread is obviously biased towards Thinkpads but any brand would work for me.

I need a laptop that can do some heavy computational lifting before I send the working scripts over to our workstations.

Currently looking at the new T or P series. I have no need for a dedicated GPU but high resolution/15" screen would be nice.

As for budget $2,000 is my max.

Lastly, is it smart to just buy the base model then upgrade with aftermarket SSD, more RAM, etc?
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>>62413414
>tfw have a t440p but like the trackpad
>tfw tried a t450 for a while but can't get used to the trackpad

Am I broken?
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>>62413344
The touchpad mod needs specific drivers that only work on Linux, 7 and 8.1, not 10 and w10's windows update autoinstalls the original clickpad driver.
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>>62413434

I had the same problem as you with T440s/T450s.

This is going to sound like absolute sacrilege but I took a T440s touchpad and swapped it into a T450s. There's a bit of driver fudgery involved but it worked in the end.
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>>62413434
Have you ever acclimatised to the trackpoint? I can't go back man. I had an interview the other week and they gave me a laptop to solve a coding problem on and I kept trying to finger the G&H keys ffs. Felt unnatural to use the trackpad. It was an ok trackpad too.

>>62413482
You can exclude those driver updates by adding exclusions with some powershell commands. It used to try to update my trackpoint drivers to the currentyear drivers. I hated it because even at full sensitivity I feel like I'm gonna develop finger arthritis I have to shove it that hard.
The Win7 drivers are fine though so I keep them and make sure it doesn't touch them
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>>62412276
Anyone?
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>>62413540
This is my first ThinkPad, I've used a 2010 MacBook Pro for the last seven years. Never touched anything with a trackpoint, can't seem to get the hang of it. Any driver/calibration advice?
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Maybe this is the wrong thread but hey.

7820HQ vs 7700HQ for data analysis. Just looking on UserBenchmark the 7820HQ barely seems faster and doesn't seem to be worth the extra 200$ in a Thinkpad.

Can someone tell me if/why I'm wrong?
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>>62413576
Ah fair enough. Having using friends Mac's before that the touchpad always felt godly as far as they go. Had a very nice texture and resistance on the finger.

As for the config. Best bet is going for those legacy drivers like I said. I think it's 2015 Win7 off the top of my head. There you should set it to be quite sensitive. Leave the windows sensitivity setting in the middle, but ramp it up in the lenovo driver tab. It'll feel a bit jerky at first but it gets really exhausting frankly when it's hard to push.

In general though, windows is never perfect.

On linux though, it took a bit of fucking about but I got something that feels right on the sweet spot for me. The response is also a lot more linear.

You can modify it by changing the value in the fules in pic related. Those are the settings I have them at.
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>>62413576
Oh also the type of mouse clit helps

>soft rim masterrace
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>>62413744
I guess I'll buy a couple different ones off ebay and give them a shot. Thanks for the help anon.
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Who here /toaster/?
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>>62413902
Yeah no problem. You can get pack with one of each.

Mine came with the one in your pic. Settled on this. Feels more ergonomic and easier to manipulate.
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>>62413970
oh shi

>tfw UK and it will take weeks.
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How high of a price is acceptable for a x230 with:
3360m, 16GB RAM and a 275gig SSD?

As far as I can see, its in a fairly good shape. Current asking price is about $190.
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>>62413970
>canada

well I'm never going to buy a sticker or patch from him now
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>>62413970
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>>62414274
>there are people with more than one and I only wanted one
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>>62413970
im coming to kill you and take that sticker
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>>62414274
they out of stock?
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L440 or Dell E6440? I want socketted cpu and expresscard with a 14" screen.
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PAAAAAAAAAAAAATCH

WHEN IS THE NEXT /TOASTER/ DROP?

I WANT MY AUTISM STICKER NOW
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>>62411980
everything on SSD

>>62412396
put your serial number in here
https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/?menu-id=Technical_Support
get your BIOS installer thing, install the BIOS updater, DO NOT RUN, then go to the folder with the files and stuff in it, directions for splash screen image are inside there
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>>62412735
>>62412774
On the wiki you linked it doesn't show the W520 as a supported device, will it still work?
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>>62414648
So excited for mine. Shipping may take a while though. Europe.
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>>62414648

what these things
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>>62414691
>I want my autism sticker now
>sticker
>pic related is a small label with memes on it

I WONDER? HMMMMMMM
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>>62414918
Oh fugg this is amazing
Windork 10 tho... rice Linux to look like 95 nigger
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>>62414929
I'm dual booting. Other os is Debian riced to look like 95.
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>>62409903
i did it.
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>>62414983
Good lad. I'm tempted to take the English text off it to make it a bit more subtle.
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>>62410690
t420
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>>62414558

latitude E is better than L series
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>>62414983
How? Am I retarded for not knowing how to add these?

Also, it should be "scheiße" instead of "Scheiße", but that looks fun.
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>>62415511
afaik you need the BIOS Update Utility, I hope you are running Windows, anon.
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>>62415511
>>62412627

You aren't the first person to point out that issue, fyi.

http://biosimage.booru.org/index.php
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126th for the X40, best Thinkpad ever made!

>no hardware backdoor
>super efficient processor
>best keyboard
>near-retina screen
>10+ hour battery life with wireless, 14 hours with it turned off (with new chink battery)
>no homosex trackpad
>no need to install transexual boot shit
>gigabit ethernet
>tiny and sexy
>proper aspect ratio
>internal roll cage to protect drive (no screen / lid cage but IDGAF)
>actual IBM logo
>no built in camera or mic, stymies CIA niggers
>only $30 or so
>cute docking station and extended battery available
>*yellow* thinklight to preserve night vision
Why don't you own the finest laptop ever made?

Photogenic weekend pic included.
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x220 for 150 with 8gb ram, 128ssd and i5. I'm pretty sure it doesn't have IPS screen, should I do it for my first thinkpad lads?
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>>62415831
IPS is a meme and takes on average 50% more power to run.

Do it. Also learn to love the terminal if you don't already.
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>>62415831
How significant is that 50%? i.e, my T440p with the 1080p IPS pulls about 13w an hour if I'm trying to save battery.
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Found a T60 in the trash in pretty good condition. Spent about 30 bucks today buying little upgrades here and there on feebay.

So far.

bought T7400 cpu, t7600 was 15 dollars more!
SSD drive i had laying around
bought 4gb of memory even though only 3gb can be used due to chipset.
bought 9 cell batteries
bought new cmos battery

it has intel gma video and was wondering about installing libreboot but turns out it depends on the panel and that sometimes it wont work and will leave your laptop headless or even bricked, which would then require buying a bus pirate and reflashing it again which is another adventure in itself and an additional 30 dollars in hardware.

should i just not install libreboot? also what distro should i use? this isn't my first time using linux but i really want a throw around laptop and this will be it. I don't want bloated crap. I want something that i can learn on, so it doesn't have to be easy to use.

which distro would that be?
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>>62415511
see >>62414656
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>>62415855
dont listen to him, the non IPS screen is rubbish
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>>62415873
what is the terminal desu? I'm not a tech fag just yet.
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>>62415855
>>62416255

If you're using a ThinkPad, you should dip your toes in Linux. And if you're doing that, you'll need to use the most basic functionality of the terminal. White text on black background, command line interface. Ringing any bells?
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>>62416122
>rubbish
it has a narrower viewing angle but that's about it, it's not useless

>>62416357
this

>>62416001
fuck libreboot it's trash on a t60

the only benefit is deactivated ME and the t60 doesn't have the botnet
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>>62416255
It's the basic way to interact with a computer and for a lot of tasks it's 100x more efficient.
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>>62416357
I was thinking about Linux but might stay with Windows 7 to keep it simple. I did have a rooted phone and enjoy it though. I'm assuming it's like that, where it's more efficient, and gives you more control and access?
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Anyone having trouble seeing listing descriptions on ebay?
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The screens were too dim and washed out on the thinkpads I got a off eBay Iwas looking at zenbooks the look pretty good with IPS screens.
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Just got a refurb T420, is there any way to extend the battery life? I already swapped the HDD for a SSD but shits lasting barely an hour before it runs out of power.
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>>62415873
Ignore that memelord, It's like 2w extra only or something.

Check your display model on panelook and compare.
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>>62416652
simply check the nits or cd/m^2 levels of the screens

never had a thinkpad that was too dim to be used, sounds like they were broken or very old
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>>62416667
>It's like 2w extra only or something
not true
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>>62416733
For the T440p on panelook:
>1600x900 TN AUO B140RTN02.3
3.9W Max
>1920x1080 IPS AUO B140HAN01.3
5.4W Max

Yeah i lied, it is less than 2W.
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>>62413970
>>62414274
>censors his own address but leaves mine in the open
t-t-t-t-thanks

>>62414017
<3

>>62414648
Ordered the restock, hopefully before the end of the month fampai.
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i bought a refurbished x220 and i love it for the most part, but the screen/display lighting is pretty shit and not very bright. should i go through the trouble of replacing it?
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>>62409903
>mfw a chink B156HW01 v.4 monitor actually turns out to be legit
I was seriously expecting to be chinked and having to dispute it turns out to be legit.
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>>62416924
go ips or nothing, tn is cancer
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>>62415790
Please stop this.
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>>62416846
>max is average
>2w is insignificant when you can get down to 8w total system draw with an X-series thinkpad
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>>62416975
yes, yes I know, it doesn't need botnet tranny boot software and it doesn't have the intel ME botnet

it's a serious problem for cia niggers because it works

it also pisses of millennials with its proper screen ratio
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>>62417060
I'll gladly give up a bit of battery life to avoid getting eye cancer.
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>>62417083
Nobody really cares about any of those reasons.
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>>62414013
That's worth around $300 maybe even $400, that's a steal
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>>62417106
>eye cancer
that doesn't even mean anything and IPS has persistence which is annoying as fuck

>>62417128
nobody cares about you anon, but here you are posting
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>>62414274
The borders are different
AI YOU HAD ONE JOB
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>>62417510
>new thinkpad
>e series
everything went wrong
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>>62417510
>Edge
>1 year warranty
>smallest battery

bad
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>>62417544
>>62417524
What is better at around the price?
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>>62417576
suicide
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>>62417576
For you? Not much because I can already tell you're the type that doesn't want a secondhand machine.

But you could have at least gotten the 3 year warranty and the extended battery. You plan on using it for more than a year, right? It should last a lot longer than 1 year if you take care of it, like any other piece of tech.
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>>62417510
For that price you can get a well equipped T460.
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>>62417595
Rood
>>62417650
Ok well thanks.
>>62417676
Where?
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>>62417755
ebay
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>>62414983
ha I got my friend to make that for me, he'll be chuffed you used it
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What should I prioritize in upgrading?
>500gb HDD to 256 SSD
Or
>4gb ram to 16gb
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>>62417874
I wanna use it.
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>>62417917
SSD

unless you NEED more RAMs
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>>62417917
SSD 10000000000%
RAM will not load things faster or get your system running sooner. RAM is nice if you are doing lots of things or heavy editing but honestly, the SSD will serve you more and will be much more noticeable day to day
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>>62417924
>tfw gonna install windows just to flash this
you only yolo once
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How do I do the pepe thingy on boot? I want that just for the lulz.
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My ultrabay slider fell out. How can I remove the bottom panel of my T420?
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>>62417994
>>>/b/
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>>62416872
A FUCKIN LEAF!!!!
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>>62417996
nvm. fixed it
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I was curious to see what Thinkpads you could buy brand new on ebay right now in comparison to the new laptops that have come out this year.

https://www.ebay.com/b/ThinkPad-Laptops/177/bn_341823?LH_ItemCondition=1000&LH_BIN=1&_udhi=400

Some interesting things in there.
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How can I make my x60 as good as possible? Also my t420 A key is a bit fucked and none of the mouse keys work PLUS it's missing a right click button, if I replace the palmrest will it fix the mouse stuff and while i'm at it should I replace the keyboard?
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>>62417874
If your friend cares enough to change it ever, tell him to to change the Greek sentence to : "Αυτός ο φορητός υπολογιστής είναι σkατά."
He or google TL was very close to the real thing though.
And I think nipponese should be: "このラップトップは糞です。"
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>>62418108
>that fucking thicc bezel
>compare it to a 15 year old thinkpad
shitty how far down the tubes lenovo's already flushed the thinkpad lineup
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>>62418137
I could get him to fix it but does it really matter?
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>>62416662
>one hour
a new battery
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What's the best way to prevent the keys from getting shiny over time?
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>>62419094
no
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Someone here use SolidWorks and/or AutoCAD in a thinkpad?

If yes, what's your model and configuration?

thanks
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>>62419094
washing your hands, not using the keyboard

you can attempt to restore it with lacquer
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bought an X220 with no hard drive, can anyone link me a guide for how to put on OS on an SSD from my main computer and then put it into the thinkpad to boot from?
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>>62419168
can i just put a linux ISO on the drive and put it in the laptop or hwat
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>>62419197
kind of but that's more complicated

get a flash drive bigger than 4gb, not sure if anyone even makes them that small anymore you can get USB3.0 32GB drives for like $15

then get iso for windows/linux

then you must put the iso onto the flash drive and make it bootable
use Windows USB/DVD Download Tool to put the Windows iso onto the drive
use unetbootin to put Linux onto the flash drive

after that simply boot laptop off of the flash drive and install the OS onto the SSD
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>>62419244
can i do that same thing but put it directly on the SSD im putting in
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Which thinkpad's model is compatible with the Intel 7th generation?
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>>62409903
Is a x220 a good idea for someone who does a lot of art and vectoring?
Also the screen tilt meme seems like a top feature for anime viewing on like a couch or bed.

Thoughts?
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>>62419263
it is possible but not like that
do u not own a flash drive? wtf
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>>62419301
probably somewhere

looks like unetbootin will make a bootable hard disk so that should work senpai
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>>62419294
>Is a x220 a good idea for someone who does a lot of art and vectoring?
is color accuracy and screen resolution important to you? if it is, then no
>Also the screen tilt meme seems like a top feature for anime viewing on like a couch or bed.
assuming you're referring to the tablet versions, they're not that great
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>>62419294
If you want art, get the tablet version, the pen is a god send.

t. x220 tablet owner
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>>62419318
Talking about the tablet version, does it also have bad color accuracy and resolution?
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>>62416872
Don't worry us leafs stick together
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>>62414523
Lol nigger it's finch so a subhuman will get you before you could even cross the street
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>>62419396
What do you guys think of this x240? Is 4gb enough? Should I avoid it because of SATA? It's the cheapest condition A x240 I could find, are condition grades useless?
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>>62419308
>>62419301
thanks senpai i found a USB drive im making it bootable now
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>>62419434
FUCK, didn't mean to post that image
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>been waiting 4 weeks for my t450 trackpad for my t440p from hong kong
>supposed to come withiin 10 days

i got chinked didnt i?
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>>62419434
thats fuckin great
>saved
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>>62419459
>>62419434

That's fine, just throw another 4GB or 8GB stick into it, slap a cheap 128GB SSD into it and you've got a solid portable shiposter
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>tfw fell for the thinkpad meme
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>>62412187
B-bumping
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got ubuntu installed on my x220, but the fucking ubuntu file installer thing wont work. i click install but nothing happens, the fuck is wrong?
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How much less durable is the X230T compared to the X230? The touchscreen, pen support, and swivel of the tablet version eludes me, but I need something that is durable.
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>>62419963
Are you running from the Live version or choosing install when you boot?
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>>62420158
i go straight into ubuntu when i power on
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>>62420004
they are still pretty durable but they have a couple extra things that are prone to breaking, mainly the lid position bumpers on the sides of they keyboard like to snap off

then after that happens the palm rest corners will be exposed more often since the lid won't sit perfectly square, so then the palm rest corners get cracked

You will see those two things already broken on a TON of X220t or X230t's.
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>>62420200
show pic pls
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Do you guys think it will be difficult to install libreboot when it comes out for the X220?
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>>62420232
i literally hit the install button in the ubuntu software window that pops up and the progress bar goes really fast through the 'process' but nothing gets installed
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>>62420258
do i just need to enter a password or something? Ive never put linux on a computer, only windows and mac os so im probably just fucking it up
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>>62420258
the installer is pretty straightforward
unplug the usb drive and try booting up
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>>62420327
its booting off my SSD i took the usb out awhile ago
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>>62420349
whatever senpai, the waiting to install window comes up with a bar on the side menu but doesnt move
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>>62420274
Open a terminal with
Ctrl + Alt + T

Then type
sudo apt-get update

This should prompt you to use the password you used when you installed Ubuntu. Sudo basically allows an administrator to do things. apt-get(or just apt) is the package manager. Update will refresh the repositories of the software you are looking to install.

Then it will update a few things and ask you if you want to continue with a y/n dialoge. Just press y then hit enter.

Then try doing the software manager.
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>>62420349
why are you trying to install it if it's already installed
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>>62420382
beacuse its not already installed
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>>62420388
it must be installed if it's booting off of the ssd
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>>62420412
im trying to install chrome/steam etc
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>>62409961
Replace the backlight (or upgrade the screen altogether, if you can).
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>T420 arriving in like 12 hours
I'm so excited, Ebay seller took his sweet time. Anything I should check when I get it?
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>>62420542
Check if BIOS is locked and if NSA mode is activated.
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Has anyone ever seen a Thinkpad which has been completely plasti dipped?

Here is a concept I made for a blue plasti dipped Thinkpad.
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>>62420542
Check if BIOS is locked then check if computrace is enabled. After be sure to format the entire drive then reinstall OS of your choice.
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>>62420641
There was that idiot who painted his white on here. I have thought about plastidipping the motherboard in my X220 worse case scenario if thermals are to bad I will just pull it all off.
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>>62420641
thatd be really distracting

im gonna plastidip the top of mine black but other than that no. theres too many holes on the bottom to do it there so id rather just leave it
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>>62420676
Idiot... Or a genius?
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>>62420676
Paint is no good because then it won't feel like a Thinkpad anymore. To do it right you would need to disassemble the laptop and only plasti dip the parts that can be dipped in a way that looks professional. You might have to sand off the existing finish on some parts.

The keys of the keyboard and maybe some parts of the touchpad like the mouse buttons could be dyed in rit dye to match if you wanted to go the extra mile.

Do you have a picture of that white Thinkpad?
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>>62420730
this

masking wouldnt work very well
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The reason I would dip the Thinkpad is because I have always loved the look of the blue debugger PlayStation systems and I want a blue Thinkpad that gives that 90s dev kit "not for consumers" aesthetic.
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Just got a refurbished x230, do I need Lenovo Companion or does Windows 10 already have the necessary software and drivers?
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>>62420641
>use black plastidip on a 17" Dell Precision
>???
>ghetto Thinkpad?
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>>62420777
or on a MacBook and post it on /g/ for maximum (you)s
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>>62409903
I just wanted to let everyone know that I bought a T520, switched out processor to i7 2860QM, replaced display with 1080 & added an SSD. I also then dropped it from about 3 feet high and it took it like a champ.

O.K, so now what else can I switch out? Any speaker upgrades? Where can I buy reliable O.G batteries?

& finally what should my next thinkpad be? I'd prefer something light and mobile with long battery life.
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>>62420826
plasti dip
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>>62420826
gentoo dip
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>Playing around with settings on X220
>Go into sound
>Find internal microphone is on and working
>No webcam installed
Shit man, I thought the goverment couldn't touch me anymore. Sounds decent, I guess.
https://vocaroo.com/i/s1tQCQZLoLTF
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>>62420851
holy hell that does sound pretty good for not having webcam
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>bought X220 for $80
>came in great condition with extended battery, i5 2520
>put a 128gb SSD in it and 8gb of RAM
>installed linux

this thing is great, is there anything else i should do to it? screen upgrade? i wanna put mac os on it but ive read the wifi card etc doesnt work when you do
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>>62420826
Also to add; can I get a fingerprint scanner &,most importantly, BLUETOOTH capabilities to my t520?

Here's a fresh new meme I just made, hot off the presses for your troubles.
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>>62412187
>>62419841
Technoethical are fucking jews, 50 euros for an Atheros AR9382 that costs $12 on eBay. I bought half a dozen of these for my laptops and they all work on the Linux-libre kernel.
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>>62420851
Unless you randomly babble about how much you hate niggers and how you want to kill people you're probably fine desu.
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>>62420875
Pretty sure you need a fingerprint scanner motherboard

bluetooth yes you should be able to just add a bluetooth module
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>>62419294
X220 tablet is way way too small for functional drawing. If you even wanted to use a thinkpad tablet for drawing, you're going to have to hunt down an X60 or X61 SXGA+, and they are old as fuck, still serviceable though, but somewhat uncommon. At that point, it is a meme because it's got 512 levels of pressure sensitivity, which the literal cheapest Wacom tablet in production today beats, and also no tilt function, which can be had on inexpensive tablets as well.

t. I used a X61 SXGA+ until the screen bubbled up and bought an Intuos
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my trackpad has a little bit of play before it clicks, anyone else?
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Where I could buy genuine battery for my x230? I heard that x230 onwards you need genuine battery or it doesn't work.
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>>62421242
nobody uses the touchpad
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>>62421250
amazon has them
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I got an i5 x250 i8gb ram for $375. Is that a decent deal?
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>>62421268
How come half the T420's on Ebay have their trackpad's looking like a sweaty oily man rubbed his dick on it then?
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How much battery life with WiFi I can expect with new 6cell or 9cell battery on x230?
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>>62421305
>i5
>8gb
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>>62421340
normalfags aren't people
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>>62421363
? I got it for college because the battery and pretty good performance.
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>>62409903
Do I need really active protection system?
I want to switch to linux but linux don't support APS.

Is APS meme ?
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>>62421340
Kek, so true. How does this happen even? Are they eating fried chicken and using their laptops at the same time?
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>>62421424
It's supposed to be an extra layer of protection for HDDs, it's not necessary if using SSDs.
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>>62419294
my gf that is artist use x220 with IPS and she don't have any complains
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>>62421450
I use HDD and I am not going for a long time to upgrade to SSD(250gb is 120 euro).

They are expensive and I don't want to spend 70 euro for 128gb SSD.
Do anyone use hdd with linux or everyone already switched to SSD?
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What does refurbished even mean on Ebay? Like half the Thinkpads are "refurbished".
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>>62421535
dude wat you can get 120gb for 45 eur and 240gb for 77 eur

>>62421564
"it turns on and all the hardware works"
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>>62421574
Yes I can get 45 euro ssd like sillicon power, transcend or kingspec but I don't want to get chinked.
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>>62421564
Fancy word for saying they cleaned it and maybe changed some of the hardware, like ram or drives and made sure it works.

Refurbished does come across as there was something wrong with it and they fixed but most of the time it's just another word for "used but I gave somewhat more of a shit."
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>>62415556
added an scp foundation logo to the booru
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>>62421564
It's used and it works. Thats it. The meaning itself can vary greatly between sellers and even items but it all comes down to it's used in some form. One Thinkpad might be "refurbished" in that a guy found a working Thinkpad but it didn't have a power brick so he got one and packaged it all together. Another one might be the CPU died so he replaced it. Another one might literally be a guy returned it after opening and the seller just put it in a new box.

It's a meaningless term pretty much.
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Why do thinkpads have such a "culture" surrounding them? The community seems to be one the most active laptop communities, probably only rivalled by MacBooks. And they seem to be one of the few laptops that sell well even used, the other being MacBooks as well.
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How I can check battery life from my x230? I want to know how much capacity it has still.
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>>62422054
Business grade product. Durable, readily available manuals from manufacturer, easy to service, abundance of parts. IBM/Lenovo were never good at marketting but Apple is and that's what Apple has going for them. It's sickening to see Lenovo shoot themselves in the foot by removing the business grade features of the newer generation Thinkpads in an attempt to "compete" with Apple.
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>>62422164
Use HWiNFO64 to see battery information. Lenovo Settings/Battery gauge will also show some info.
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>>62422054
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>>62422186
Thanks
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Should I buy new battery? How much battery life I should expect with new 6cell or 9cell?
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Which chiclet model has the best keyboard?
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>>62423091
X230
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>>62422713
>that wear

Yes, yes you should. What model have you got?
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How hot is a t420 supposed to run on idle?
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want to get rid of wintendo on my X220, thinking about installing fedora xfce. what's /g/ recommending?
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>>62423188
gentoo
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>>62423118
X230
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>>62423217
Absolute autism mode, I've heard >10h on a 9cell. Reasonable basic use, probably closer to 7-8.

More accurately it's a bit more than double what you get right now.
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>>62423243
Yep, maybe I get another 9cell battery.
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>>62410037
Needs more jpeg.
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>>62423243
X230 with a 9 cell here. This was on battery while plugged into an ultrabase 3 all day with the web browser open.
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>>62414648
where did you get that?
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Yay my autism stickers arrived. Top notch shipping too, considering that they already arrived here in bongland
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>>62409903
Guys I can't figure out whether to get a T520 with an i7 or just a W520. Could anybody point me to some important differences between the two? It seems the W is simply a better deal.
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>>62423604
>that quality control
absolutely asqueroso
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>>62423612
Get a macbook pro instead
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>>62423726
fuck you too buddy
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>>62423688
True, they have some imperfections, but they serve their purpose well enough. Also, if /g/ is still here in 10 years time, I'll be able to use that to show they are from the original run, thus gaining levels of autistic smugness never before seen.
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For other anons in the UK who have used ebay is "eflexcomputers" a good reseller as the stuff they are putting up for is very cheap vs buying off random people
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Comfy T420 hackintosh

A pity my DP and VGA ports don't work at all.
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Anyone know what the cable with "MB" on it does? I've had a skim through the HMM and I can't find any mention of it.
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Why the hell is no one on this thread talking about this?

https://www.reddit.com/r/thinkpad/comments/700vt1/thinkpad_retro_official_image/
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>>62423993
https://www.lenovopartner.com/promotion
It's real.
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>>62423993
>reddit

Looks better than I expected.
>inb4 chiclet disguised as classic keyboard
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Decided to boot up my win install to rice my BIOS screen. I'm running Win10 LTSB on an X220 here.
I was reading the readme on the BIOS utility and it seems to be for a UEFI BIOS whereas mine is running a legacy BIOS.

Anyone know where/how I can update/acquire the legacy one? I'm still looking around but I haven't found it yet.
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>>62423993
LENOVO NO
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>>62423604
BONG STICKER?

"maybe mine will arrive today...."
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would an i7 2760qm upgrade on a nvs4200 model T420 be safe and icy? I'm glad my new T420 came with the discrete card (payed $145, i5 2520m) but it currently gets 50C idle when the card is enabled from the bios.
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>>62423993
>https://www.reddit.com/r/thinkpad/comments/700vt1/thinkpad_retro_official_image/
>It's a promotional limited edition only
>They aren't actually going to sell any
I guess I'll buy that MBP then...
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>>62424100
Limited edition =/= not selling any.
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>>62424129
It says right on the page that's a limited giveaway for Lenovo retail partners.

You're not getting one.
Well not until they're being resold on eBay anyway.
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>>62423993
I sense low effort.

This would be fine if they
Use the higher quality chassis materials
Make it easily serviceable
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Unbelievable. Fucking nothing about this X220 BIOS. It's *all* UEFI shit. How the fuck did it get a legacy BIOS in the first place?
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>>62424309
640x480, 30kb max. Download the BIOS utility for your model, follow the instructions in the text file there. Forgot the name, but it's pretty obvious.
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>>62424351
does the extension matter?

what site has the program?
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>>62424391
jpg, gif or bmp, I think. It's in the text file, and the utility is on Lenovo's site. Just google "*model* BIOS utility."
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>>62423993
>no trackpad buttons
DROPPED
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new thread

>>62424557
>>62424557
>>62424557
>>62424557
>>62424557
>>62424557
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>>62420881
So would you say you're confident that these are running free software drivers?
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I am going to buy a T440 for 250€.
Then upgrade ram to 8gb and the screen to an FHD display (B140HAN01.3).
In total, a T440 with an i5 8gb of ram and a 1080x1920 display. Sound's good?




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