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>What distro should I choose?
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>GNU is the worst part of GNU/Linux
lol
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GNU is bloat
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>>62877037
Fun fact, you dont even have to use gnu on a Linux system.

I know you're crying and throwing a tanturm stallmanist, but the harsh reality is, gnu is not needed anymore.
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>AcTuAlLy iT's GnU pLuS LiNuX
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>>62877037
Are Alpine users allowed to post here?
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Are there any functional distros that will run smooth as butter on an old Atom netbook? I don't want to just use Puppy Linux. I'm going to slap an SSD in there, too.

Pic is very related.
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>oh yes we provide GNU/Linux tools for this embedded board
>oy vey you need to use our proprietary tool to generate the headers for your application
>windows only
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threadly reminder that any anti-GNU poster is from pol trying to seed doubt in the FLOSS movement, and should be ignored.
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>>62877324
Every distro will run the same. Its things like de/wm's and other preloaded software that comes with the distro that change its performance.

Use Arch
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>>62877154
Fun fact, you dont even have to use linux on a GNU system.

I know you're crying and throwing a tanturm goy, but the harsh reality is, linux is not needed anymore.
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>>62877376
I'm curious, point me to an entirely GNU system
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>>62877499
I'm curious, point me to an entirely Linux system.
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Has anyone here used Debian unstable + KDE for a long period of time? Is it stable enough for a main OS after ditching Windows 10? I'm also considering KDE Neon but I'm not a big fan of the outdated Ubuntu LTS packages and lack of font rendering customization. I'm focused on KDE because it gives me all the functionality/bloat I need in a DE.
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>>62877522
I'm not trying to make a point i'm legitimately just wondering if there is one
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I sure hope none of you fell for the Devops meme.
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>>62877037
BSD cucks are nothing but shills, Their OS is shit and they know it, they meme BSD to cuck other idiots. Just look at the resistance on changing the license >>62877150

If their OS is so great, they wouldn't resist to make a GPL version.
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>my source code and derived bits are under a restrictive license don't dare copy them without agreeing to my legal license
>freedom
wew lad
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awful thread
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>>62877678
Fuck off BSD cuck
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Install GuixSD
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>>62877154
According to Microsoft you also don't need Linux, the kernel, in order to run a "Linux system".
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Friendly reminder that Linux is just the kernel. Other kernels under GPL are:
The Muen Separation Kernel https://muen.sk/
and HiStar http://www.scs.stanford.edu/histar/

Operating Systems under GPL are:
FreeVMS http://www.freevms.net/
FreeDOS https://www.freedos.org/
JNode http://www.jnode.org/
KolibriOS http://kolibrios.org/en/
ReactOS https://reactos.org/

Special mention to GNU/Hurd https://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/
Arch Hurd http://www.archhurd.org/
Debian GNU/Hurd https://wiki.debian.org/Debian_GNU/Hurd
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>>62877777
>77777
Jackpot
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would you consider debian bare-bones graphically speaking?
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>>62877874
No. This is the main reason I'm using BunsenLabs.
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>>62877874
it is what you want it to be bb
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>>62877777
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>>62877650
ive read the wikipedia page on devops but i still dont know what it actually is
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>>62878196
good, means they have job security
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>>62878196
That's the point.
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Does anyone happen to have an ascii or ansi gondola for my motd?
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>>62877626
Debian GNU/Hurd?
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>>62877777
Linus Torvalds on suicide watch
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>>62878252
Make one yourself you fat lazy sack of shit
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>>62878252
DIY
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Which DE should I use with VOID?
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>>62878395
i3-gaps or Openbox.
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>>62878395
whatever is most comfortable for you

>>62878406
neither of those are DEs
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I installed debian stable, but now I find out the package I need isn't in backports.

How do I get a more recent package onto debian stable?
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>>62877224
We don't care what OS you use on your router.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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>>62877606
Why not just use debian stable?
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is there any reason to use anything but ubuntu? seems like software for every other distro is outdated. if you dont like bloat you can just delete shit
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>>62878485
build one.
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>>62878485
download source, cd into src/ directory, type make, read error messages, find out you need up-to-date versions of about 5 libraries that are also not in backports, install gentoo

hth
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>>62878575
>>62878563
Fug.

Should I just move to testing?
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>>62878556
preference
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>>62878541
I've considered Debian stable but I don't want my system to become incredibly outdated in just a couple years.
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>>62878556
>is there any reason to use anything but ubuntu?
how about you give me a single reason to use kunterbuntu instead of glorious debilian?
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>>62878593
for what exactly? you can modify anything you like
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Does the old rule of thumb of making the swap partition twice the size of the RAM still apply? I have 8GB RAM.
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>>62877606
honestly windows 10 always fucks up at least once every 6 months for me

yeah debian will be more stable
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>>62877777
checked
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I'm confused. I've downloaded other distros, installed mint, arch, ubuntu before etc. This is the first time I've seen this type or wording though, is ubuntu not free or something? Why does it mention anything other than the release number or whether its a dev build or not? Their website is kind of confusing to be honest.
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>>62878599
package managers, the company behind the distro, age of said packages.
use ubuntu on multiple machines, but canonical lost a lot of goodwill due to many things in years past.
maybe you are too new to have seen that, but it still affects them to this day with the more enthusiast crowd.
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>>62878590
try apt pinning or building your own deb package.
build the git version.
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>>62878650
>is ubuntu not free or something?
on the RMS-autism spectrum of freetardation, I dont think it would qualify as being particularly "free". (I remember an RMS rant on ubuntu installing spyware by default hehe)

but Im not aware it ever charged money for anything.
does canonical even have enterprise versions?
I think SUSE had a business model like that. what they're selling is maintenance and support
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Someone please send help:

>>62875021
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I've got a Gobi 3000 modem in my thinkpad
it's listed under USB devices, but I can't find any way to get it working, anyone have an idea how to get it working?
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>>62878721
Ah, okay I also see that they sell preinstalled desktops and usb sticks ready for bootable installation. So basically they sell normie support for non-hobbyist users but the actual distro is just download and install onto a usb with Rufus and reformat like anything else?
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>>62878556
Ubuntu is windows for linux, it's popular among masses because you can be retarded and still use it without any problems.
I believe it's a good thing we have Ubuntu because it's a contamination zone for the idiots that believe they are superior 'cause they've menaged to type a few commands into the terminal.
It helps other serious distros keeping autistic spergs away and letring them build a healthy community.
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>>62878609
You dont need swap with 8gb
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>>62878650
It means its supports that version for 5 years and it will update that version with security fixes and etc
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>>62878650
>>62878721
https://www.ubuntu.com/server/plans-and-pricing

Ubuntu Advantage gives security patches/upgrades after end-of-life, potentially at a cost.
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>>62878196
>devops but i still dont know what it actually is

>they say
>its all about automation
So kinda like the fucking point of a computer?

Devops is a meme. It just a buzzword that means increased efficiency and amazon web services.
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>>62878650
This sentence without retarded wording:
LTS version (long term support) is guaranteed to receive security and maintenance updates for the next 5 years.

So in practical terms:
Devs are promising that you can stay on this particular version of Ubuntu without upgrading for the next 5 years and you'll still get all the security updates and free access to means of getting those updates.
After 5 years - no promises (it means after 5 years you should upgrade to some newer version).

That's it.
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>>62877499
GNU/Hurd.
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>>62877606
Debian unstable is still pretty stable. At least with XFCE. Some debian unstable packages are the same version as other distros stable packages.
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>>62878836
>LTS
They just made it 6 years to make phone/IoT guys happy. Not sure if that becomes effective now or with 4.14, the next LTS.
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I tried installing Arch yesterday and couldn't get the Wifi Broadcom drivers/firmware set. No Ethernet connection. b43 or wl and it kept giving errors.

Is Arch really worth the trouble or should I just boot it with something like Fedora/Debian where the wifi will just werk
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>>62878196
As far as I can tell devops is having a dev who also does some sysadmin stuff, mostly in the cloud though. So like a dev who also manages the company aws account.
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>>62878252
Install jp2a, it converts jpegs to ascii.
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>>62877324
Honestly try a Haiku OS nightly. It runs like a bat out of hell on those machines.
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>>62878556
USE flags and OpenRC.
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>>62877332
Most serious /pol/acks are also /g/entoomen at this point due to the insane kikery perpetrated by Microsoft, Apple, and Google.
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>>62878609
Honestly swap doesn't seem that important. I made a swap file when I did my most recent install months ago but I forgot to add it to fstab and didn't notice until I added something else to my fstab.
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>>62879082
Seems you cant read
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/broadcom_wireless
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>>62879134
>/pol/
>having enough brain cells to install an os
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>>62878965
That's upstream kernels, not Ubuntu releases.
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>>62879156
>he doesn't know
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>>62879082
Arch really isn't worth it. It's a very vanilla distro, your usual systemd, de's and all that shit. If you actually want customization you choose gentoo, otherwise just use whatever you like most.
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>>62879168
But muh AUR. I use Artix though.
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>>62879134
Most /pol/acks are edgy 16 year olds who are pissed off because they are teens so they believe any contrarian sounding bs you tell them.
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>>62879174
Gentoo has 19000 packages in the official tree so you don't need any aur stuff.
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>>62879134
>at this point
Any /pol/ack that uses Windows shouldn't be taken seriously. They've railed against the NSA spying and shit for years now.
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>>62879199
Offical Arch repos have 15944 packages and AUR has 46025 packages.
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>>62879158
Sorry. I didn't read the upstream comments.
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>>62879146
>Linking the wiki as if I didn't read it three times.
Thanks for your insightful input, retard.

>>62879168
Honestly I figured as much, I have no issue getting Gentoo to install or any other flavor of linux. But for some retard reason it throws me a
 Dual core processors not supported 


I posted the same last night and frankly gave up. More trouble than it's worth if it can't even sync the core's with the correct firmware/drivers installed. Only way to fix that was rolling back the kernel. Wow so stable.
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>>62877154
That is true, but this is a GNU/Linux thread.
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>>62879299
I've recently taken to calling it GNU+Linux.
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Debian stable is great, but...I need more recent packages.

Ugh
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>>62879328
switch to unstable
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>>62879328
Add the stretch-backports repo.
>new kernels
>new browsers
>new compilers
>still Debian Stable
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>>62879342
Do I need to reinstall?
>>62879343
I checked the backports, didn't have what I was looking for.

I managed to compile it to my home directory, but some parts of it still don't work and I dunno why.

It might be a kernel issue for all I know, I'm really new to this. I'm trying to get an embedded dev board to interface with the computer through openocd.
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Are there any disadvantages to not using Systemd? Do you miss out on anything or does it make anything more difficult to do for example?
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>>62879404
Automounting usbs are a little more annoying because you have to write a udev rule for it, but other than that not really.
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>>62879427
So...then why does it even exist in the first place?
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>>62879384
>Do I need to reinstall?
no, just change a file in /etc, then upgrade the distro, search on the internet to see how to do it
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>>62879472
Because Red Hat needs your money.
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>>62879472
>>62879404

More things are centralized, and the composition of most scripts is standardized. Before systemd, these scripts were the definition of patchworks that just barely worked.
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>>62879583
Oh please you shills always push this meme. There is nothing complicated about a few bash scripts.
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>>62879583
Then what's so bad about it..? It still respects your freedoms right?
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KDE and GNOME depend on systemd? That is some gay ass shit.
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>>62879665
GNOME can work with elogind I think. I thought KDE supported consolekit though.
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Level with me, /fglt/, how annoying is it to set up virt-manager with Windows for my games? I figure if you're going to do it, you should do it right with that kind of almost bare metal performance. I only have GNU/Linux distros permanently installed on my work and personal dev machines, not my main home desktop, but I'd like that to change.
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KDE is pretty broken to me, should I go to Cinnamon or XFCE?
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>>62879202
They should never be taken seriously in the first place.
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So what's the deal with SUSE? I never hear anyone talk about it.
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Does anyone have experience with KDEConnect?

Is it horribly unstable or worth going through the pain of setting up?
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Any good rolling release debian-based distro that isn't sid?
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>>62880089

CINNAMON MAN
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>>62880292
https://blog.lxde.org/2016/10/04/benchmark-memory-usage-lxqt-desktop-environment-vs-xfce/
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>>62879156

just installed gentoo, fite me
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>>62880233
>the pain of setting up
What? It's easy as fuck. You literally just install the app on your phone and select your computer. It's extremely useful too.
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Are there any games on GNU/Linux with actually active communities?
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>>62880682
Tux Rider
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>>62877037
>Buy laptop from a friend
>HDD is wiped
>Spot an OS in the liveCD
>Boot it for shits and giggles
>Finally notice that the HDD is partitioned near 74GBs for the /boot and the rest of 4GB for the OS
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>>62877796
is he warming up his lunch?
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>>62880702
I meant an active multiplayer community...
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>>62880682
The Cube engine community is pretty active and awesome. The cube engine powers several games like Sauerbrate, Red Eclipse and Tesseract. It's pretty cool; a mix of FPS and Minecraft, open world co-editing and fagging when you're bored.

The cool thing is, when you're a programmer, you can hack your client and make it do absolutly awesome things.

If you want to try a game, I recommend Red Eclipse.
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>>62877037
Hello friends, I have been having a recurring issue lately. Ocasionally when I'm watching YouTube on Firefox (Debian Sid), my computer will freeze and the last second or so of audio will loop. Attempts to open the task manager are unsuccessful since it's completely unresponsive, although sometimes I am able to switch to other sessions with CTRL+ALT+F2. However, other times I am forced to soft restart the machine with the ALT+SYSRQ+REISUB method (http://blog.kember.net/articles/reisub-the-gentle-linux-restart/)

What could be causing this? I've only had it happen with YouTube on Firefox on Sid, but I don't know if this has just been luck and the issue affects Firefox in general or some other package in my machine.

How could I go about diagnosing this? What other info could I provide you with? Thank you
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>>62881275
Seems like an issue with your GPU and graphic drivers. Your RAM usage and overall Xorg settings (DE/WM, compositor, driver settings).
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>>62881305
I'd be surprised if it was a GPU/graphics driver issue, since I have been able to play games with no problem (I'm using NVIDIA's propietary drivers as installed from debian's repos). And RAM usage shouldn't be a concern, as when it happened I wasn't even doing any heavy work, just had Firefox open, and I have 8GB of RAM

I'm using GNOME as my DE, if that helps
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anyone know why a wifi connection would randomly drop every few minutes?
it appears to be a software problem, I had a intel 3160, swapped it for a intel 6205 and had the same problem
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Are there any special considerations I have to take into account when installing cracks/repacks with wine?

Can I just run the installer from Codex or the unpacker from fitgirl?
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>>62879404
Nope. Most of systemds "features" are actually things implemented in the kernel like cgroups. OpenRC is much more minimal than systemd, has a fantastic init script format, does cgroups, and boots faster in my experience.
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>>62879472
Red Hat wants to take over as much of GNU/Linux as possible so that their support contracts increase in value.
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>>62881334

run dmesg -w and iwevent and watch what happens when the connection drops. that should give you a good starting point for googling.
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>>62879583
>sysvinit scripts work for decades as well as good alternatives like OpenRC and daemontools style inits
>systemd comes out and suddenly script based init is totally broken because reasons
BSD style init scripts or OpenRC still work just fine, systemd fixes nothing while adding tons of bloat to the most important process on the system.
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>>62879665
Only wayland version of KDE depends on systemd. I think both KDE and GNOME tie into logind which is linked to systemd (even though it doesn't need to be as elogind demonstrates). Funtoo supports running GNOME without systemd and I think the Funtoo method works on Gentoo. GNOME is pretty shit though.
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>>62879988
It's not that hard. vfio.blogspot.com has a guide it's under 2015 I think.
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Official /fglt/ notepad
https://etherpad.net/p/agdg
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>>62878756
post more info. distro maybe?
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>>62881490
>bbbut something about sysv init scripts are unreadable and only wizards of old can create them!!!
>make everything XML so I can read it puh-leeeeazzze.
Fuck I hate this new software 'paradigm'
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>>62879988
What hardware do you have first though?
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>>62881608
arch

>>62881485
hasn't dropped yet, I don't think
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>>62881327
might be an issue in the proprietary drivers, really
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Is it ok to use GDM while using KDE?
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>>62881618
Yeah. It really isn't hard to read an init script and honestly if you can't read a bash script you probably shouldn't be fucking with init.
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>>62881726
I guess it could work. The real question is why you would do such a thing.
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How do terminal color schemes work in linux? Is it just the processing of bash commands in say .bashrc? Like how do color scheme scripts (like say pywal) change your color scheme? Is it just the editing of say .bashrc or some other file with the appropriate coloring commands?

I'm so used to doing it with a gui, that I don't know how it's done under the hood.
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>>62877154
Doesn't that make the argument for distinguishing GNU even stronger?
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>>62879123
Unless the drivers don't work.
>>62877324
I like that keyboard.
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>>62881817

They change the configuration file used by your terminal emulator which specifies colors.
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>>62881485
>>62881626
I'm seeing it reporting
New Access Point/Cell address:Not-Associated
when it drops
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>>62881853
>configuration file
config files. ah yes. forgot about those. lol. thanks.
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I just spend 5 hours with my vimrc. Am I part of your club now?
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>>62881960
If you wanted an IDE you should have chose emacs.
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>>62881988
I would if I could, but every time I start emacs, I feel completly lost.

Back in the days with vim "vimtutor" helped me pretty much. Is there something like this for emacs? I'd love to try it.
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Why is debian sid so counter intuitive to get?
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>>62881960
>not using the default with a couple additions as you go
doing it rong lad
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>>62882022
C-h t(utorial)
Thats ctrl+h followed by t
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>>62877376
>Goy
>Posting about a jewish man's OS
Oy vey!
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>>62882051
Thats basically what I did. Next to organizing and linting, I mostly deleted stupid crap saved because "neat", but actually useless clutter.

>>62882052
Merci!
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>>62882074
5 hours doing that? hopefully you were being hyperbolic
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Is Emacs the ultimative zen after vim?
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>>62877324

If it's 32bit your options will be limited. I use Debian on mine (Sid minimal install), it's not a distro that works well out of the box with netbooks like for example the discontinued Xandros.
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>>62882089
emacs is alien software
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>>62877037
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>>62882089
Made this for you >>62878252
wget -qO- 0x0.st/CQu.txt
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>>62882127
cute.
now do servers, then mobile. afterwards get out.
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>>62882143
linux servers serve for a unique purpose, and the only reason mobile works is because of google, not because of linux itself.
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>>62882127
(2016 pasta)
Microsoft is part of NSA's mass surveillance program "PRISM":
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM_(surveillance_program)

Microsoft informs the NSA about bugs before fixing them:
https://archive.is/OBGB1

Microsoft openly offeres cloud data to support PRISM:
https://archive.is/tW6fu

Microsoft has backdoored its disk encryption:
https://archive.is/2XIvX
https://archive.is/qLRZx

Windows snoops on the users' files, text input, voice input,
location, contacts, calendar records and web browsing history,
even after related settings are turned off:
https://archive.is/thsGd
https://archive.is/sz1nt
https://archive.is/g3QdQ
https://archive.is/ko469
https://archive.is/l6pmO
https://archive.is/zK93U

Micrcrosoft automatically downloads Windows 10 on PCs running
Windows 7 or Windows 8.1 (between 3.5GB and 6GB), even if
users have not opted-in:
http://archive.is/CEvKh

Windows 10 scans for illegal/pirated software:
https://archive.is/vhjwm
https://archive.is/2jehd
https://archive.is/KQsBh

Microsoft proudly presents surveillance statistics:
https://archive.is/MB0Yy

> Over 82 billion photos viewed.
> Gamers spent over 4 billion hours playing PC games.
> 44.5 billion minutes/month spent in Microsoft Edge.
> Over 2.5 billion questions asked of Cortana since launch.
> Windows 10 now active on over 200 million devices.
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>>62882177
Linux is a kernel, like NT for windows.
Thanks for listening.
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>>62882177
nokia also did it, and jolla
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>>62882182
it just works
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>>62882182
The thing I'll never get is why people are ok with this. I remember back in the days whenever Microsoft tried to force some sneaky shit like IE-only webthings or Windows Media Player-only things, people right out sued them and won. But today people share a mindset like "y0 everything is botnet nowadays, just give in, *comfy*". What the fuck happened?
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Linux best os . Windows is spyware and it sucks
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>>62882177
>linux servers serve for a unique purpose
hurr durr being equivalent to windows is the ultimate purpose of everything :DDD
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>>62882282
Bro, Microsoft are the good guys now.
They literally fund the Open Source Initiative:
https://opensource.org/node/901
They fund the Linux Foundation.
They support free software:
https://github.com/Microsoft/BashOnWindows
Even Torvalds thinks Microsoft is cool. Do you think you're more intelligent than Linus Torvalds?
>I may make jokes about Microsoft at times, but at the same time, I think the Microsoft hatred is a disease. I believe in open development, and that very much involves not just making the source open, but also not shutting other people and companies out. There are 'extremists' in the free software world, but that's one major reason why I don't call what I do 'free software' any more. I don't want to be associated with the people for whom it's about exclusion and hatred.
> L. Torvalds
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>>62882289
did I disturb your safe space, autistic kid?
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>>62882282
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
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>>62882310
That's not Linus.
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>>62877650
The whole bottom row is me atm.

Internship life
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>>62882335
https://twitter.com/AzureCloudDev/status/768489350891921409
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>>62882335
microsoft hired a linus lookalike just for marketing
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>>62882355
this
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>>62882230
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>>62882310
this post makes me unconfortable
please delete it
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>>62882348
>MS never lies
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>>62882369
Excuse my autism.
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>>62882399
That's literally 2 percent too far on the right angle. Do you even autism, m8.
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>>62882369
Yes we must make sacrifices for freedom
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I love you all. Right now extremly.
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>>62882399
i'd like to say when i first made the edit, it was a slight dig at ux design from free software.
but in reality, i couldn't be arsed to fix it.
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Friendly reminder to isntall unar instead of unrar. Free as in freedom and works, been using it since a year now. Package name differs beween unar, unarchiver, etc.
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>>62882414
We love you, Tak Fujii. Extremely.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwcl17Q0bpk
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I have a shell script which needs to run with sudo. How can I run it on autostart without typing the password?
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>>62882451
run it as root
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>>62877376
Yeah, like GNU/TURD
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>>62882483
lmaoing @ ur life
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Are all Ubuntu derivatives Amazon botnet or is it just Ubuntu? I like Ubuntu so far because it'd easy to look up everything but I want much freedoms
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>using manjaro with xfce
>install cinnamon de
>everything is in japanese
>I don't into moonrunes
fuck
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>>62882491
its just the old vanilla ubuntu with unity and unity is dead
ubuntu is fine currently (tho you never know if some new creepy stuff pops up)
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What's the best place to find themes for xfce and other DEs
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>>62877213
kill yourself, normie
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>>62882491
the amazon thing is part of the unity de, so you should be fine with any derivatives
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>>62882496
Stop pirating distros, download them from the official websites.
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>>62882535
>pirating distros
wat
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My cpu spikes every time i move windows in mint 18.2 cinnamon .What can I do ?
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stop using downstream distros.
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>>62882544
That's normal. Your cpu does something.
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>>62882544
Play around with the compositing settings.
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>>62882544
I stopped using mint in like 2006. The windows environment always felt unresponsive and CPU heavy. Also: >>62880342
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Motion to rename GNU/Linux to GUN featuring linux
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What the actual fuck. Why can't I install applications without a ubuntu account? Am I missing something?
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>>62882658
>bait: the still picture
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What is the perfect PS1?
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>>62882714
$p$g
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>>62882571
not him, but I was using xfce before. cinnamon looks much better
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>>62882714
$
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>>62882507
Pls respond
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>>62882760
tried <myDE>-look.org
or deviantart?
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>>62882714
\u@\h » \w » \$ 
(with colours) is my PS1.
I think it's nice.
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Whats currently the best distro? Don't want to fall for meme distros, please tell me which is the best.
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>>62882714
\[\e[1;33m\]\u:\[\e[1;36m\]\w$\[\e[0m\]

>>62882740
edgy
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>>62882788
Source Mage GNU/Linux
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>>62882788
GuixSD
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>>62882642
Naming it GNU was a mistake. He should have named it after himself. Unrichnus. Linchardix. Something.
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>>62882795
>\e[0m\
You can shorten this to \e[m.
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>>62882813
Stllmanix
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>>62882826
Torvaldux
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>>62882835
Linalds Torvaldux
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>>62882496
seriously there is not a single setting that says the system should be in japanese, yet it is all japanese
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>stat -c '%a' /dev/null
Where is your god now
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>>62882845
it sounds like you're fucked but every cloud has a silver lining and this one might get you to learn japanese! I suggest Genki textbook 1 & 2 and also Remembering the Kanji, see you in 1 to two years anon!
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>>62882845
learning japanese helps for watching chinese cartoons
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>>62882876
>>stat -c '%a' /dev/null
You can shorten this to:
stat -c%a /dev/null
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>>62882904
>You can shorten this to
YCSTT echo 666
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Do you guys use a ? USB? What OS would you recommend for a live USB
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>>62882927
GNU/Linux
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>>62882876
Thanks!

>>62882904
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>>62882927

I use a .
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>>62882879
>implying
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>>62882705
I'm actually not baiting at all, is there a different package manager I should be using or should I just be using apt-get?
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>>62882451
make it an initscript/systemd service
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I have a question about High-DPI on GNU/Linux.

I got a 4k monitor today so now my monitor setup is

27" 1440p 28" 4k 17" 1440p

and I'm (ab)using XFCE4.

There doesn't seem to be any settings for per-monitor DPI in XFCE4. Anyone using KDE/GNOME/other desktop know if that's supported / configurable? For now I did echo '(108+158)/2'|bc and came up with 132 as a DPI that's a in-between but I'd rather be able to somehow have the right DPIs on the right screens.

Picture related is a screenshot of my desktop. It's interesting how the areas which aren't part of the desktop (below the 1440p displays) get filled with .. something.
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>>62883535
I don't have a fancy screen but xrandr seems to have a --dpi <dip>/<output> argument.
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>>62880682
xonotic
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I'm using xfce, and recently the desktop program (the one that lets you change the wallpaper) just freezes on startup and never unfreezes.

I found the config file in ~/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfce4-desktop.xml

I tried deleting it and restarting, didn't change anything. I tried manually changing the wallpapers in there and restarting and it applied. So I'm not sure what is causing the program to freeze.

Here's the verbose log: (xfdesktop-settings -e)
https://pastebin.com/1XiDpQ1f

I thought the issue could be some of the folders in the program no longer existing that I had used previously, but when I deleted the config file, it reset to using the default xfce folder which does exist
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>he uses a display manager
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
*gasp*
AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHHAH
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>>62884335
haha, great post!
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>>62877037
hey /fglt/ ive been having some trouble with playonlinux debian, tried completely purging it, didn't work. Whenever i create a virtual drive, and go to misc settings, im unable to open a file in the virtual drive, because the button doesn't work, I click it, and nothing happens, any ideas?
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>>62883535
Reddit spacing.
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what's the weeb terminal of choice for arch users
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>>62884335
Out of curiosity, is there anyone here who uses a DM? I just configure my bash profile to start x on login.
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>>62883857
Reddit spacing
>>62884626
Rxvt-Unicode
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>>62884661
haha this epic meme again

no, I just like to space my text out, I think it's more readable
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>>62884672
Reddit spacing
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>>62884661
thanks
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>>62884672
Stupid lowercase poster.
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any reason not to install mint?
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>>62885114
Is there a reason why you *should* install Mint?
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>>62884500
bumping, whenever i google the issue, i get a thread, where the fucking admin says he fixed it, but didnt list the fix
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>>62885142
im making the full switch from windows, Its good as a babys first OS.
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>>62885178
Says who? Because it ships proprietary codecs?
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>>62885178
Just use Ubuntu.
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>>62884386
hihi, thanks!!
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>>62883535

X can't do per screen DPI.
Look into using Wayland with GNOME or Sway or whatever you like.
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>>62884645

Looool ur such a hacker. pls don't hack us
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>>62885755
What the hell are you even on about?
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>>62885755
Do you use plymouth, also?
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>>62885778
his insecurity is spilling into his keyboard
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>>62885778
>>62885815

He he, good day, sirs. Yes, quite indeed, display managers are only for the plebs out there. Realy hackers and scholars like us use a copy/pasted shell script which logs us into our single-user machine. He he, we don't have family that shares computers with us, because no one wants to touch our filthy, cum ridden hardware. Obviously our use case of auto-logging in and starting an X session is the only use-case anyone would ever have.

Good day fellow auto-login sirs!
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>>62885849
>I don't use a DM because I don't see the point
>> LMAO ARE UHACKER xXdDD111
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>>62885849
What the hell? I was sincerely asking if there was any practical benefit to DM's, and you come back with this? All I wrote was
exec startx
in my bash profile. If you would read a man page every once in a while, you would know that's not very challenging. Or impressive.

And your post is really condescending to people who aren't interested in technology, like businesspeople have never been able to navigate TUI's without being a specialist, historically. It's a simple login prompt; you don't need to be a genius to get the drift.
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is installing grub on a flash drive autistic?
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>>62878556
Rolling releases and source based distros are very much different than Ubuntu.
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>>62877037
what should i install?

Solus, Manjaro, Debian, or Gentoo?
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>>62882089
Try TeXmacs for uni
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>>62884645
>>62885914
Lots of DMs are installed by default, so that's just what people use until they get the courage to disable/uninstall them.

Beyond basic aesthetics, there isn't much difference between logging in via tty plus executing startx, versus logging in via DM. In fact, if there's a weakness to DMs, it's that the most popular ones (GUI ones) use X, so that if you need to restart X, you generally need to restart your computer. On the other hand, doing the same with no DM is as simple as shutting down your WM/DE.
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>>62882127
If this represent the amount of bloat...
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>>62886199
Installing a persistent OS' grub/lilo/other bootloader on external media is simply dumb.

Installing supergrub2 (a grub rescue disk) on an extra flashdrive to always have it at hand is a good idea.
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>>62886262
You clearly dont know what a keyfile is, nor FDE
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>>62886228
install gentoo
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>>62886228
>>62886271
no, really
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>>62884625
What kind of bullshit statement is this? Are you a child? I don't use redshit, never have, never will.
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>>62886292
Namefag.
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>>62881897

I had a similar issue with buggy Intel drivers and what helped was fucking with iwlwifi flags.

start by adding "options iwlwifi 11n_disable=8" to your /etc/modprobe.d/iwlwifi.conf. this should make your card transmit more aggressively. if you want to try disabling N, change the 8 to a 1

if that doesn't help, you can install the latest driver from https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/users/drivers/iwlwifi . you might want to try to build it yourself from git to get the very latest version.

if you have a dual band router, try running 2.4 GHz-only to see if that helps the issue

if none of that works, google iwlwifi.conf with your chip name and see what other flags you can flip to at least isolate the problem
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>>62886300
don't give them (you)'s, just block or hide them
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>>62884645
Meh, if you know you're going to startx anyway, a DM has a nicer-looking login screen. I don't bother to set up a DM on every machine, but I do think it makes sense.
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>>62886228
Ubuntu
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>>62886752
And when I say "nicer-looking", I mean the default XDM prompt.
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What's a good text editor to use? I liked kate when i was using kubuntu but now that i'm on gnome it installs 100 kde dependancies to run. gedit doesn't feel that great
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>>62887031
vscode I guess
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>>62887031
ed is the standard text editor
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desu the only reason I use linux is because windows is too heavy on my pc
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>>62887116
Windows feels like a prison
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>>62886236

>that if you need to restart X, you generally need to restart your computer.
What a stupid thing to say. You know, you can stop or restart display managers, right?
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manjaro with cinnamon is pretty sweet. many things just work thanks to arch's aur
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>>62886236
log out to tty then log back in
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>>62887186

The AUR didn't create the software that "just works".
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>>62887227
it doesn't matter who creates it. it does matter if it works or not
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>>62887297

It just works on Ubuntu, Debian, Fedora, OpenSUSE and others too.
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>>62887316
no it doesnt. using ubuntu was a pain in the ass desu, and the others are probably worse
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>>62887336

The same software runs on Ubuntu as on your current distribution, except for the version. Not that there's something preventing you from installing the the same versions on Ubuntu.
It not working on Ubuntu means you're kind of an idiot.
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Was 17.10 worth waiting for?
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>>62887350
compiling it myself because it is not in ubuntu's repository and solving all the depedencies myself isn't classified as "just works", you autist
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>>62878756
If you are using Networkmanager install Modemmanager. Insert sim card with 3g data plan and setup using either Networkmanager or Modemmanager. Otherwise https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/ThinkPad_mobile_internet
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why do people like gnome? who the fuck wants their desktop to look like a mobile os?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yX8yrOAjfKM
>"Ubuntu?"
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>>62887031
leafpad/mousepad for absolute minimal needs
geany for programming and when you need markup
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>>62887984
>geany
what an ugly editor
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>>62888019
>looks>>>>>functionality

get a mac and hit the road.
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>>62888032
if you want functionality you get an ide
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Can I stream/mirror my main computer's screen to my phone? If so, how?

I'm looking but all I see is how to do the opposite or stream it to a tv.

I have a mechanical arm to watch stuff while lying on bed and I wank to 4 simultaneous instances of mpv running random porn.

Help me out.
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>>62887636
I don't get it either.
The layout really isn't that bad though, but there is so much functionality that could be simplified and made snappier with less visual eye candy (they should just make the whole thing look like older GUI menus, solid color simple borders, and leave the eye candy as an addition rather than the default)
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>>62887031
GNU Emacs.
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How long does it usually take for software to get updated in the arch repos? qutebrowser 1.0 is out and I don't know if compiling myself is worth it.
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Could you recommend me a good website or source to learn the Ubuntu/Debian terminal syntax? Like I'd like to know how commands like - d, ch, &&, sudo ecc.ecc. work
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>>62888262
Distributions don't have their own terminal commands.

Any Unix guide should be ok,
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/1600139/looking-for-recommendations-on-a-good-beginners-bash-tutorial
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>>62888262
There is no syntax variation. It only depends on what shell you're using and what tools are available. Also you'll find that almost all tools are highly standard on GNU/Linux (and bash is basically the de facto standard shell) so whatever you learn there will apply on any distro.

The biggest exception of course being how you use your package manger since different distros have different ones.
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>>62888341
>>62888314
I'm on Xubuntu 16.04 and I'm using bash shell
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How do i triforce in linux?
There is no alt codes
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>>62888083
Until the devs are satisfied that the package is stable in the arch environment. If no one tests it in the testing repo, it stays there longer
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>>62888375
Bash is the most popular, but whatever you are using, it will translate without much trouble to any Unix system.
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I had dual boot arch linux/win10 some years ago

I really loved the minimalism and clean design of arch linux and it was enough for the stuff I was doing
my problem was one day, without me even really doing anything, everything broke, nothing worked and I gave up after hours of trying to fix it

I have some free time and windows starts to annoy me, I was curious if I should give it a try again
or if there is a similar distro that won't just break, that will actually just work
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>>62888262
IT'S CALLED BASH AND THERE ARE RESOURCES IN THE STICKY

FUCK
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>>62888530
Every distro will break if you dont take care of it.
Nothing just "stops working" out of the blue.
Most likely you updated the system and did not change your config files based on the new software.
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>>62877324
MX should work well
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is there a DE that actually supports HiDPI?
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>>62877324
Where have netbooks gone?
They were really nice
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>>62888590
Please tell me this is on libgen.
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>>62888408
ctrl+shift+u - release - enter unicode character hex value - hit enter

Or just install a Japanese IME and add it to the user dictionary under "Triforce"
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make new_thread -j1
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>>62888710
All im getting is "@"
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Hi guys so there was something i was working on, all alone just cause i wanted to be proud in case of critical win, and so it's a victory.
I am Anon even here if i want, if someone wanna try it's how i do:
>One true system
An openvpn open here
>Virtualbox systems opened:
Whonix Gateway -tor tunnel- + -tor tunnel- Workstation
>In Workstation wich has only tor as default, put an openvpn
>Launch Firefox
Tadaaa: Box internet / principal system <> vpn <> VirtualBox / Whonix (TOR) <> vpn
And for once didn't use proxychains for shit.
Do you think i'm doing it right or do i make some mistakes?
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NEW THREAD

>>62889127
>>62889127
>>62889127
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>>62888965
...I also understand now why there are some people using 3/4 or more screens.
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>>62888083
Compile it, it's worth the small effort. I'm glad I never have to use Firefox again
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Two questions, why use Mint if there is Ubuntu?

Second question, what is Cent better at opposed to Ubuntu?
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>>62889235
I did it, good bye google forever
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>>62888069
Bump, someone.
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>>62883857
I'm no expert but the log you posted seem to have anything strange going on. You might wanna ask on the xfce forums at xfce.org.
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>>62884645
I use SLiM because it's light and works. Also autostarting X from your bash profile seems like a bad idea because you'll be fucked if you need to log into a tty to debug something.
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>>62886199
Not if you're doing full disk encryption.
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>>62887636
Red Hat brainwashed them into liking it.




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