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This thread is about the appreciation of horology, as well as the micro-engineering and materials engineering that are required to make a fine watch, clock, or other timepiece.

>Required viewing for newbies:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEhAlzqmhA4

>Strap Guide:
http://pastebin.com/SwRysprE

>Watch essentials 102:
http://pastebin.com/VBAu4Rwi

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>>63701902
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So the Omega website says that the basic moon watch (reference 311.30.42.30.01.005) has the 1861 movement, which is the decorated version of the 861.
Even though it has a solid caseback.

QUESTION: is it possible that, in the past, Omega sold moon watches with the 861 under the exact same reference number?
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>>63716596
Nice clock Ahmed
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>>63716700
that is a good question.
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>>63716596

Thanks OP i have a roomate that i hate that is flying away for for christmas holiday...

I might have just enough time to mod my old casio into something like that and put it in her luggage ...
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>>63716700
but i do know i miss teh 321
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Am I a pleb for not liking metal bracelets?
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>>63716808
>op posts nip shit digital terrorist watch
>only other post has filthy slav canibals and heads
why am i not surprised? Do all your seiko casio fags feel the need to murder? You guys want to help re-invade china?
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>>63716841
Holy shit, it's a bitter swatch male.
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>>63716911
DON'T YOU DARE CALL ME A SWATCH MALE I AM JUST A RUN OF THE MILL SHITPOSTER DOING MY FUCKING DUTY.
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>>63716836
You and me both, then.
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>>63716781
if you feel you need help just leave your address here
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>>63715318
The story behind the new El Primeros is pretty cool, for the unitiated https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/charles-vermot-the-man-who-saved-the-el-primero-and-possibly-zenith
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70 bucks for this piece of shit Bergeon wheel remover tool, fucking Swiss, it's just a slightly different cannon-pinion remover!

At least it works well.
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>>63717243
Must suck working with these swiss brands when you need specialized tools for each like the rolex caseback opener etc bullshit.
Why can't they just use parts with normal standards?
Personally I even hate the star screws.
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>>63716596
I want to jump into the vintage lcd watch train.
Should I bid on this watch?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Seiko-World-Time-Lcd-Ulta-Raro-Con-Scatola/232579228181?
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>>63717315
There's no way around chronograph driving wheels, they've been designed this way since watch chronographs existed. Only problem is Bergeon is the only one I know of that makes this tool. Without it I give about a 90% chance the fourth-wheel pinion will get bent.

Pic related, a fourth wheel from a chrono. Sub-seconds hand goes on one end, the chronograph driving wheel on the other. You need this tool to pull the wheel off at an EXACTLY 90° angle, else it gets bent, and even if you bend it back accurate timekeeping is likely no more.
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>>63717366
Oh I see, my bad.
I will definitely stay away from mechanical chronograph movements.
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>>63717315
>>63717399

The nips even use swiss tools.
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oh shit boys new bezels
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So the slavshit Komandirskie Chistopol which got some hate a few days ago just arrived in the mail. I cleaned it up and put it on a brown saddle leather strap. Looks fine for a 20€ watch and it’s keeping excellent time since this morning.
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>>63717595
> 20€ watch
You overpaid.
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>>63717608
Nah I don’t think so. I put it back on eBay for 45€ and the listing has 4 followers so far. I posted it like 2h ago. I bet I’ll flip it within a week.
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Good morning wt
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Hey /wt/ have you heard about this thing? I've just learned about it yesterday.

So the Russian Army has the new Ratnik infantry combat system, which consists of a wide range of gear, armor, chest rigs, tactical computer, NVG, radio, etc. with apparently one part of the system being the Ratnik officer's wristwatch.

Basically the Ratnik watch is an upside-down 060 Amphibia assembled somewhere in Moscow, BUT some early versions are said to have a three-position crown with a date quickset that Vostok later abandoned because of reliability issues.

It's ugly, it's already faked, it's just an overpriced Amphibia, but supposedly it's and original military-issue field watch, which is very rare nowadays, especially an automatic. Opinoins or more info?
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>>63717777
Russian army still doesn't recognize the benefits of quartz in combat situations:
>More reliable in most sitautions (shock resistance, magnetic resistance etc).
>More ACCURATE (which is the most important thing in a military situation).
>No digital display to count (Important in artillery especially).
>Cheaper and easier to replace
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>>63717774
Hey there, fellow cosmo-cunt, great condition!

I just finished this one yesterday, so far it's -4s slow after a day. I'm going to sell it, but I'm not sure if I should re-lume it with SL or leave the factory dead black lume on. Also apparently the factory lume tends to eat the hands.
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>>63717902
I assume the Russian MoD requirement was that components of the Ratnik-system should all be domestic-made. This is common with military programs in countries that have a large arms industry (USA, Russia, China, France, Israel, etc).

Since Russia has no quartz movement manufacturers Vostok wins by default. Also the basis for the Ratnik, the Amphibia is already a watch designed originally for the military.
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>>63717933
if you can relume it well it will sell for more. The hands look like absolute shit
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>>63717933
Ordinarily I'd say not to relume but that looks like it's in pretty bad condition. Here my opinion would be to go for it.

What batteries do these use by the way? I've got a one piece 7803a (like yours, but with a black dial - believe your one piece is white?) But it didn't come with a battery.
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>>63717902
quartz watches are also not nuke proof and batteries are for homosexuals
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>>63717978
Russia has produced many quartz watches in the past, hell their lapdog Belarus still produces Luch quarts, they could use those or better yet, set up their own quartz production again or buy needed machinery from Asia, instead they went to easy route or using their outdated mechanicals for the project.
A good comparison would be some poor country using muskets when they couldn't produce their own assault rifles.

>>63718002
Nuke proof watches are irrelevant since the assumption is that when nukes are used, the game is already over. You do not need to operate in a environment filled with radiation and destroyed electronics.
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>>63717996
There's some give in the battery slot so the standard is either the SR43/386/SR1142/AG12 or the slightly larger SR44/357/AG13 battery. Both will fit fine.
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>>63718094
tactical nukes faggot
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>>63718094
Well issued watches rarely see any actual use, most soldiers will just buy and wear a better one. It's been like this since at least Vietnam. I'd bet that most Russian infantry will be using Casios.

Also we don't even know if the dreaded EMP even effects the simple electronics of a basic analog quartz watch. I think the last surface nuclear test was before the invention of the IC.
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>TFW you will never own a brushed bracelet with polished links watch.
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>>63718132
Thanks Anon
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>>63718177
>This fucking faggot would use "tactical nukes" against mother fucking RUSSIA
Look at this smart ass over here.
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>>63718232
>R
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>>63718232
Well you could put an Ebay bracelet on an Amphibia and it wouldn't be as ugly as that Memega.
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>>63718232
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>>63718232
>>63718303
>>63718333
>>63718354

Nice bait.
That watch is fantastic.
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>>63718362
Nice folded links.
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>>63718375
>>63718389
No need to be upset.
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>>63718232
>>63718362

Why do you feel the need to shitpost about Omega? Vintage omega is my favorite watch company and i am not too happy about the current state of Omega but i don't constantly derail threads shitposting about it. They still make a few nice watches and they actually have excellent finishing.
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>>63718422
Who's shitposting?
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What is the consesus on the H.Moser & Cie brand?
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>>63718427
These: >>63718232
>>63718303
>>63718333
>>63718354
>>63718375
>>63718389
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If Ivan/Dimitry can't be fucked to make sure there aren't any metal shavings in the movements, how can you be sure amphibias are even water-proof?
I feel like you're all just getting memed with these soviet watches
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>>63716596
Xth for my digital lcd watch is better than yours.
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>>63718475
Basic haute horlogerie brand. Makes nice looking stuff. Their recent perpetual calendar is a cool idea though I don't actually like the ultra minimalist execution.
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>>63718475
High quality independent manufacturer. Too bad they are too thick for dress pieces.
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>>63718399
That's not bad actually. Much better than the shitty chink folded bracelet made out of recycled Zyklon-B cans.
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>>63718580
>the shitty chink folded bracelet made out of recycled Zyklon-B cans
Which one is that?
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>>63718422
not him but omega is cartier/panerai tier at this point and the reissue line is so fucking lazy its just what i expected from them
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>>63718523
that's great anon, i love it
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>>63718604
All of them.
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>>63717209
hmm was looking at this timex and nezumi loews. not sure if ill like this for the long term.
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>>63718681
The seamaster 300 bracelet links are folded?
Source?
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is it better to buy from zenitar or meranom? the latter has free shipping
also, is the ministry case as big as it looks?
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>>63718733
they're not. he's a troll.

personally i think the watch looks shit on a bracelet and the finishes don't really match very well, but the quality is going to be fine
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>>63718772
Well, aside from the SARB tier overly radiused case edges, heavily distorted mirror polishing, and garbage Chinese outsourced bracelet.
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>>63718794
>SARB tier overly radiused case edges
>heavily distorted mirror polishing
And the folded links, riiiiiiiiight?
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>>63718827
Ignore the smudges in this image because they aren't relevant to the things I want you to look at. Look at the polished center links in that bracelet and notice how the reflection in them is distorted both horizontally and vertically. That's because the surface of each of those polished links in convexed by the polishing belt(s) used to apply the polished finish. That 3D rounding over of a polished surface comes from doing it too quickly with high speed polishing belts. The same applies to the case edges, doing it too fast with too high speed a belt causes too much of the corner of the case edge to be rounded over, leading to those "lozenged" edges. People used to shopping for vintage watches might have an easier time catching this kind of thing because we're used to looking for it as a black mark against a vintage watch (as it indicates it's been overly polished).
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>>63718950
>Look at the polished center links in that bracelet and notice how the reflection in them is distorted both horizontally and vertically
Kind of like pic related?
Also, you can't see shit in that pic.
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>>63718950
>"lozenged" edges
Like the lugs on pic related?
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>>63718950
>>63719003
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>>63719011
>buy 20k watch
>scratch the fuck out of it
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>>63719030
watches are meant to be worn faggot
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Questions about quartz watches;
How does the average quartz fare in shock resistance?
I live in Holland so naturally I bike a lot, I always carry my mechanicals in a pocket or a bag because the roads are often cobblestones.

Would you recommend the same for quartz watches? Especially say 80s seikos etc? or does a quartz crystal not really mind the odd bump or two
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>>63719124
The crystal itself will be fine. Remember though that analog quartz watches still have a geartrain (just no balance or escape wheel). Assuming you're talking about common stepper motor quartz watches, that's the part that would be most sensitive to shocks. I wouldn't be super worried about it.
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>>63719011
Those lugs are very finely radiused. Virtually all watchmakers radius their case edges, the issue is that when it is done too fast on to0 high speed a belt you end up creating too large a radius that makes the case look very cheap. Here is a quick comparison I threw together using a Rolex Explorer 114270 and an older Omega Aqua Terra (which had seriously excessive case rounding on the older models). Looking at the two side by side may help you see how overly radiused case edges made a watch case look cheap.
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>>63719124
G-Shock, you fucking nigger.
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>>63717774
Good morning. Does that one also have the interesting date quickset?
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>>63719189
Radiuses look fine to me.
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>>63719124
It can't be that bad, right? I bike with my Alpenis all the time.
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>>63718950

fuck me dead that's a good looking piece
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>>63719124
Thanks bro.
I should have specified regarding impact on accuracy as well as damage
>>63719191
No monkey, I don't need the watch to bike, I just want to know if it's worth taking off for the ride or not.
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>>63719205
Yep.
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>>63719255
whoops meant to thank >>63719187
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>>63718794
we were talking about the bracelet mongoloid. why are you talking about the watch when i made no mention of it in my comment?
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>>63716596
what would the battery life be on that?
100 years?
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>>63718764
guys pls help
does meranom take paypal?
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>>63719255
A quartz crystal is vibrating at 32khz - the time scale over which it experience a bump from biking is way too long for it to care at all.
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https://youtu.be/halpdw6ujPo
I like it when people say they are pointless. They are hypnotic to watch though.
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>>63719239
Why does Archie have those 2 bumps on his head anyway?
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>>63719239
>emulating this disgusting miserable fuck

just kys
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>>63719605
start and reset bumpers.
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buyee or fromjapan?
Shipping to EU
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>>63719696
I think nobody pressed the reset in a long time.
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>>63719710
Why no zenmarket
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>>63719756
is it better?
I'm new at this breh
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>>63719605
Receives shilling instructions telepathically from Switzerland.
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>>63719710
Buyee works for me, but I never tried the other one.
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>>63718764
At 41mm Ministry is still small by modern diver standards.
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>>63719605
When you have owned over 100 Rolex watches you start to grow horns which consequently suit an alpine environment.
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>>63719283
yes
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>>63719867
small by modern standards means nothing. Fucking idiots on here are wearing 45mm watches on sub 7 inch wrists and think it looks fine. Dive watches that large are actually meant to be used as dive watches not to be worn in public. Wearing a 45mm dive watch in public is like wearing a buoyancy compensator instead of a vest.
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>>63720514
Whatever, bitchwrist soi boi
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>>63720567
I aint no soyboy faggot I am just not a tasteless cuck.
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>>63719495
Gorgeous. I actually like the look of that Blancpain piece more.
But nothing tops pic related
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How long can a terrorist watch run with a battery if the hourly beep is on?
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>>63720631
gyrotourbillions are completely useless
I feel nauseous whenever I look at one honestly, just like I do when I look at any watch that's bigger than 38mm and has more then 2 hands.
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>>63720514
>tfw 7.3in wrists
>Only deep blues BIGGEST and THICCEST watch has a slight overhang on my wrist
stay mad
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>>63720678
>gyrotourbillions are completely useless
What did he mean by this?
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>>63720610
Of course you aren't.
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>>63720698
Name three situations where a gyroturbillon movement comes in handy.
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Don't get discouraged anon, keep bumping that cosmotron and you'll sell it some day.
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>>63719274
longer
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What's up, wristlets?
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So the f8192 has not been performing up to hopes. It is user adjustable, so I may have to open it up and give the trimmer a twist.
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be real cool when I figure out how to set it.
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>>63720678
Please post your 2 handers
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>>63720933
If these things were originally rated to 5spm, I don't think I have the equipment to test it to that accuracy. It has a 256hz tuning-fork-like driving motor, so that's equivalent to tuning to an accuracy of 0.003 cents, if I did the math correctly. I've been meaning to get a tuning fork timer though so if I do I can adjust it more accurately.
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>>63720698
Well t.b.h no tourbillion helps with watch accuracy. A modern mechanical is just as good. They are technically impressive but useless and only exist to vastly inflate the prices of ultra high-end watches.
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>>63721031
A 2D tourbillon is basically useless on a wristwatch, but a 3D tourbillon should essentially eliminate positional variance as a factor in rate accuracy. You might argue diminishing returns but the quest for mechanical accuracy inherently involves tackling am exponentially increasing difficulty curve.
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>>63717777
I don't know that you'll find a three position model, I believe the date mechanism was simply only reinforced. Newer models have a Chinese movement instead. It hasn't been faked, but the company has produced a shit ton of custom dials.
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>>63721031
2D helped on pocket watches when they sat crown up all day in your pocket. On wrist watches the longest time they go without changing position is when you take them off and leave them in a case dial up which shouldn't have a gravity effect.
Their purpose now days is to be cool as fuck to look at.
>>63721072
A larger diameter ballance wheel does the same thing (increase accuracy) in an easier cheaper way.
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>>63721118
A larger diameter of balance wheel cannot eliminate positional variance in the way a 3D tourbillon can.
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>>63719771
synthetic cream is indeed better
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>>63721181
No but a larger diameter ballance wheel is more accurate than the smaller ones they use in the tourbillon. Its effectively a whole lot of work for not much. They can both be as accurate as each other but one costs significantly more to make.
That being said they are so cool to look at does it matter?
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>>63720641
About 5 years.
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>>63720873
>big as a submarine
>10 bar
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>>63721243
Don't forget the JLC uses 3D hairsprings in their gyrotourbillons that are much more concentric than flat hairsprings.
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>>63719605
His body is developing further physical deformities to better match his deformed mental state.
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While changing some settings I noticed that this guy allows me to change the contrast level of the LCD screen.

I have never seen that on any of the digital LCS display watches I've ever owned with the exception of my modern ABC watches.
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>>63721359
Did I not tell you it was the GOAT LCD quartz?
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>>63717491
nice
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>>63720833
>Wife's BF

So it's him?
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>>63721449
His wife's bull.
Its also his wife's son not his.
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>>63720833
post pics faggot ill throw mine up right after
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Story time.
>be poorfag shlomo soldier
>working at the base two days ago
>wearing my cosy work Amphibia on a SS mesh bracelet
>pulling cables through the ceiling while watch snags onto something
>springbar breaks
>watch falls straight down 4meteres onto solid flooring
>shitsprobablydead.jpeg
>pick it up
>two lume dots flew right fucking off, otherwise seems running
>nigger rig and quickly disassemble it with a multitool and and small pen to remove the stem
>remove broken lume dots so they won't smear all of the dial
>check watch after 24 hours, still gains +8 secs as it did

Honestly, i could probably


>>63717933
>>63718132
Well, i'm cleaning up shop and selling mine as i haven't worn it in at least 4 months or so.

Likely going to get a proper 7A28 before prices skyrocket and then buy a better Cosmotron example.
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>>63721629
I got drunk camping and starting furiously splitting massive chunks of wood lifting the large pieces over my head and slamming the axe down backwards to start the split. I Split a few large sections of oak and start walking to my chair when i realized i had my fucking amphibia on. Thing did not miss a beat same accuracy figures after i got back from my trip.
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Julian's just gotten 10 of these in stock, think I have to own one at my next paycheck if they're still available. A little bigger than I'd prefer for the style at 42mm but has a 3105 and is very pretty imo
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>>63721709
Still, it looks a bit weird, and the case is pretty banged up and scratched as well.

Then again, a brand new 710059 costs nearly nothing. I have enough spare Amphibia parts to finance it if they sell.
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>>63721737
Poljot 24 right?
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>>63721737
Aaah his secondhand OKEAH and Sturmanskie have sold :( I was saving for one.
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>>63721930
That's the one

>>63721954
Is the problem with his site, the limited nature of all his stuff makes you reach for your wallet more quickly than for something you know will be easily obtainable in a couple of years still.
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>>63721970
True whenever I go on it I feel like I have to buy something immediately but so far I haven't.
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Whats a nice comfy dress watch with a blue dial?
Sub $1k
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>>63722001
GIMTO
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Curve-Surface-GIMTO-Business-Luxury-Men-Quartz-Watch-Ultra-Thin-Steel-Wristwatch/322610770396?
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>>63721629
Also, said Cosmotron.
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>>63721368

Yeah, it's an excellent watch. I can't believe Seiko stopped producing them.
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>>63721359
This would probably kill it if they could put it out for 100 dollars.
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>>63722060
I want Cosmotron so bad
I don't even know why but I do
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>>63722217
You can just buy mine.

Strapped for cash anyways.
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>>63721095
>Newer models have a Chinese movement instead.
How do you know those aren't fakes or tourist-specials? Vostok could probably supply enough watches for the entire Russian Army, dirt cheap.
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>>63722217
Just buy one off Amazon jp for like 50$
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>>63722265
> Amazon JP
wow, where's my brain. Yahoo jp.
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>>63721903
i have a bezel like that on mine.

you could take this as an opportunity to pick up one of the superluminova dials from ebay and fit one of those
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>>63722278
I could, but right now it'll be cheaper to just buy a brand new 710059 (I also really want a 710 case) then to buy a superluminova dial from Favinov and the tool to do the proper replacement. And even i did want to replace it'll cost me extra for a new case.

I could get cheap tools, but i would rather get proper good tools again yet i can't really afford it.
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>>63718764
It's comparable to an SKX. Here's a pic of both on my 7.25" wrist.
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>>63722253
Because the company has said as much? This isn't some conspiracy. It's fact.
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Lads help a brainlet out, I forgot/never really memorized a King Seiko model
>textured dial
>indices halfway through are raised
>dank ass bracelet
I know this isn't a lot to go on, but I've seen pictures of it here numerous times few years back
What I'd want is either a model number or/and a picture of it, but you might as well just post King Seikos, because why not
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>>63722392
Probably not one of mine
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>>63722452
You are right
IIRC it's quartz, possibly had a penis on dial to
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>>63722473
Oh sure. Probably a king quartz then, not a king Seiko (by which I mean, search for king quartz and you'll find what you're looking for). But more generically, the twin quartz line
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>>63722364
Wow. They're literally fucking retarded. Hope for the Russian's sake they don't start putting chink components in other military hardware.
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>>63722695
wew lad, thanks for that
I searched for King Seikos before on google and found no pictures of what I wanted to see, searched Seiko King Quartz and lo and behold, it's filled with what I wanted
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>>63722779
this is the one I was looking for, fucking beautiful in my opinion, shame stuff like this isn't made today
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Are manual winds more robust than automatics?

I mean rotors are pretty big chunks of metal spinning very freely on a little axle connected to tiny, dainty cogs.
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>>63722962
In general yes
>a bit less moving parts
>manual winding mechanism is probably meant to be used and won't eat itself like my fucking ETA goddamn mountain jews
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>>63719189
>meme watches

What are you, Mexican?
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>>63722768
So like...all of their electronics?
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>>63722830
That kind of subtle grain is beautiful
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>>63723142
>Wears a Citizen shitter
>No arm hair whatsoever
It's all starting to make sense now.
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>>63723436
>No arm hair whatsoever
I mean, compared to me or other normal people, he's extremely unhairy, but cmon, we have some smooth as a cue ball skin posters here, you just wanted an easy jab at Citizen
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>>63716596
JUST got this
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>>63723647
>watch so shit the hands and indices fall off even before the delivery is made
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>>63723030
I don't know. I do know they used French electronics for a while. But frog electronics are literally worse than chink.
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>>63723436
>4MHz HAQ
>shitter
You have much to learn, kid.
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>>63723436
>Talking shit about the best poster in /wt/
Literally kill yourself.
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>>63724364
He doesn't look like the fat canadian to me.
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>>63724364
>not that one moron with the shit camera trying to show off
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>>63724493
>fat Canadian admits to shitposting
>best poster in /wt/
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>>63724493
He's the dude who collects all different kinds of movements from odd quartz to running fork to mechanical to spring drive
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>>63723714
>on a tech board
>not realizing its a smart watch
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>>63724524
Now that everyone else realizes that there have been people trolling /wt/ persistently for months you perhaps may want to consider why I was short with a few posters here a couple months ago. In any case I stopped feeding snarky (You)s to trolls here months ago.
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>>63724568
>Now that everyone else realizes that there have been people trolling /wt/ persistently for months
mfw it's all me.
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>>63724563
>on 4chingchong
>not identifying a lame joke
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>>63724568
>I stopped feeding snarky (You)s to trolls
Thanks for the (You).

The thread was better before you came around. Not by much, admittedly, because this is 4chan. You only gave them more fuel.
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To whichever anon it was that was looking to buy a megasonic a while ago, there's one on eBay now in what appears to be very good condition for a pretty reasonable 1k USD.
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>>63716700
The only "moon watch" is the Cal. 321 version of the Speedmaster. None of the other reference types have been on the moon.
GJ falling for hype.
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>>63724364
He is the best poster on wt and i am not the one who commented on that watch but he does have some shitters in his collection man. The diver is a shitter, and a lot of the seiko quartz watches including the one in the photo are not that technically interesting. HAQ watches are sort of cool i get why he would buy and enjoy it but its not really a great watch. Quartz in general is a very polarizing topic amongst watch enthusiast in general. I sort of find some of the intermediate mechanical quartz movements interesting along with the pre-quartz tuning fork movements but not enough to collect them. Then when you move to pure quartz and start creaming your pants about high accuracy quartz movements that are literally just quartz watches with higher frequency quartz crystals that are not even thermocompensated i no longer have anything in common with you. I mean are some of those older seiko dials nice? sure? but i really just can't get into it at all. It really does not excite me.

>>63723881
he has to learn to stop shit posting but honestly that is about it.
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>>63724888
>Seiko quartz watches including the one in the photo
???

> I sort of find some of the intermediate mechanical quartz movements interesting
No hard feelings anon, here's my luch for you.
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>>63724917
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>>63724659
I can't say I agree, but I'm not going to try to convince you.

>>63724888
So what if he's interested in movement types and watches you aren't? Different collectors have different types of watches they are interested in collecting, what is it to you if he is interested in watches and types of movements you aren't? He contributed to these threads and he knows his stuff.
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>>63724917
I like pretty much all of your watches anon i just don't want this to become r/watches

>>63724930
Yes I am sure he is and i totally appreciate that he enjoys his collection; i was just defending someone that had the opinion that it was a shitter even if it was a shitpost about arm hair.
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>>63724917
What's the accuracy on that Luch and how reliable is the 3055 movement overall in your mind?
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>>63724917
Also i love that luch
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>>63724592
Godspeed you.

>>63724568
Nice job giving him a (you) my dude.
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>>63724977
The accuracy is standard non TC quartz, about 10-?15spm. It is definitely not A super reliable watch - it stops from time to time. I've read a lot of people having trouble with the electronics, more than the mechanics. Mine is a second gen which supposedly has slightly more reliable bits.
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>>63725031
That's pretty neat, I've never really gotten into the early / "experimental" quartz movements, to me they are just the developing stage to current ones.
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>>63723142
Oh by the way, I'm working on getting the Neuchatel regulations translated into English, but it's going to take a while. I have some contacts who are talented with digitizing text from old PDFs and they are working on turning the rules document into something that would be easy to run through Google translate. It's going to take a bit, but we'll eventually have the full document in English.
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Stopped by the longines boutique on the way home to pick my ultronic from service. Wasn't running (sigh swatch service centers) so back to service it goes. But...

>>63725169
Awesome, thanks!
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>>63725186
They did an exhibit on loan from the longines museum with an ultra quartz 6512. Never seen one before in person so had the boutique manager pull it out for me.
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>>63725186
That looks fantastic man.
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>>63725197
Very unusual indices - the hands actually pass under the index markers, than over.
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>>63725207
"rather than

Crown in the back, similar to the Accutron 214 - again, trying to emphasize battery power and accuracy by making the crown harder to access.
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>>63725220
Movement shot from the web. Very similar to the beta 21, but instead of the quartz signal directly driving the Reed, a comparison circuit reads both rates and then adjusts the reed (similar in some ways to spring drive I guess).
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>>63725207
Never seen anything like that before, really interesting. Thanks for the pics
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>>63725197
>>63725207
>>63725220
>>63725243

that's dope anon. Thank you for sharing
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>>63718764
if you plan to mod you can get a custom one made from am-diver.com
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>>63718764
Thanks to the smaller dial diameter, the 710 generally wear smaller than they seem. Getting an aftermarket bezel helps too.
I honestly think that the 420 wears larger than the 710.
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i've been obsessing over the vostok amphibia the last few days, inching towards a purchase, but recently my perception of the watch suddenly flipped and i see it as a mickey mouse toy watch. anybody else feel this way? love the history and performance but damn if it doesn't look just a little childish. i could mod it like everyone else i suppose. any pics of more "mature" looking amphibia mods/setups?
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>>63725633
https://vostokamphibia.com/100-best-vostok-amphibia-mod-watches/
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>>63725633
My only advice really is to stay away from models with designs on the dials. Immediately changing the bezel and strap should honestly be done from the factory because they're such shit, and it honestly shouldn't even be considered a mod.
I will agree that the finishing on the case is pretty cheap feeling though, but the only real way to change that is if you know how to refinish steel.
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I know im a pleb but i'm getting a free smartwatch through my job. 300 Limit and i have an S8.

Was thinking the Gear S3 Classic, any suggestions?
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>>63725771
People here generally have zero interest in smartwatches, so you are better off just using google.
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>>63725726
good shit, thanks
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>>63725771
My personal gripe with smartwatches is how THIQQ they all are, but I guess the Huawei one looks decent.
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>>63725750
yeah, bezel and strap mods for sure. i was thinking of getting ministry case, scuba dude with date and without arabic numerals, but they only have it in blue and not black. (the black scuba dude one has arabic 12, 6, 9) the dial in your pic is the closest to what i want
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Is it worth the extra $10 to get a SNZG13J1 over an SNZG13K1?
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>>63725771
Just get whatever's the most expensive and sell it.
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I have $1000 to spend on a watch

I would like to buy something used that will hold it's value and is a classic on ebay

suggestions?

I like divers and sport watches
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>>63726519
500 Casio MTP watches
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>>63726519
A Zeppelin chronograph
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>>63726125
I mean Japan has even looser criteria for the "Made in Japan" label than the Swiss, but if you truly believe that you won't get Jew'd by the good and honest Dani Seikosha then go for it.
I will say that saying your watch is Japanese made rather than Taiwanese made would probably make you feel better about it.
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>>63725568
>>63725750

I know i am probably being borderline retarded but I am really starting to like those watches and the whole idea of the amphibia.
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>>63727112
True, I will feel more pride of ownership if it says Japan on it. The J1 is only $105 anyways, I feel like that's great for an everyday watch.
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best watch?
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>>63727675
Whats your definition of best?
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>>63727733
best

adjective

of the most excellent, effective, or desirable type or quality.
"the best pitcher in the league"
synonyms: finest, greatest, top, foremost, leading, preeminent, premier, prime, first, chief, principal, supreme, of the highest quality, superlative, par excellence, unrivaled, second to none, without equal, nonpareil, unsurpassed, peerless, matchless, unparalleled, unbeaten, unbeatable, optimum, optimal, ultimate, incomparable, ideal, perfect; More
adverb
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>>63727675
Best is a subjective term when you ask in such a broad sense. You need to narrow it down to something like "Best watch for diving/hiking/timing my orgasms", like you wouldn't go to /o/ and broadly ask what's the best car, or ask /k/ what's the best gun.
At least make it more specific before you stir up the shitposting.
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>>63727733
you're*

fuckin' mongo soyboi
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>>63727807
>what's you are definition of best
You got me.
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>>63726125

I personally feel that J made Seiko's are better. The SNZG13 is a good starter shitter either way. It's higher quality than a $190 SKX. I got the SNZG for my father as a work beater last christmas and he's been enjoying it.

>Mfw it's mid day in that photo and the Sat is clearly misaligned
>worshiping the Nip jew


>>63726519

Look for some sort of Vntage omega or a speedy reduced.

I only say speedy reduced becuase usually the way everything collectible works is that something that is looked over (in this case becuase it's not the MOTM and its "small" at 39mm) ends up being popular in the future.
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>>63722452
Did you get these in condition like that?
So many are banged up but I don't want one those 1k repolished listings
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>>63724364
That's not the seiko solar poster
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If Seiko mechanicals are considered "shitters", then what's the cheapest "non-shitter" watch? Or is shitter just a meme.
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>>63728162
Shitter is literally just a meme. If it's less than $10,000 new than it's a shitter.
Omega and Brietling are considered expensive shitters here. Take that term with a grain of salt.
In shitter news I just ordered a SNK809 with the metal bracelet.
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>older colleague is telling us how her husband wants some chinese watch after someone mentions a bussiness trip to shanghai
>"It's something weird, you can see through it's back, and it looks simple, like some poor officers watch but I can't remember the name"
>ask her is it the seagull
>"How did you know?"

I mean it was too easy, but hiding your powerlevel is tough.
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>>63728187
good to know
>SNK809
nice, was thinking of getting that before being sidetracked by vostok amphibias which was suggested as an alternative (superior?) mechanical under 100
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>>63728187

That's literally not what's meant by the term shitter. Shitter watches are from shitter brands like Squale and Steinshart. Watches masquerading as something they aren't.
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>>63728614
Then what is a Seiko 5?
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>>63728005
His shill antennae are growing.
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>>63728632

Seiko 5s are shitters. The point is nobody here is saying that $10000 is required to be non shitter. In fact Archie specifically suggests speedmasters as a first watch.

The price varies between 2000-3500 on those.
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incoming new blue enamel Seiko
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>>63728723
>watches masquerading as something they aren't
>Seiko 5
It doesn't fit literally the only criteria you named, get your shit straight.
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>>63728723
>treating that miserable broke fuck's opinion as law

you underaged eceleb worshippers are pathetic
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>>63728723
I want a digital lcd watch.
Which one should I get if I want to avoid the shitters?
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>>63719030
When the poor run out of ideas
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>>63719030
>gold is softer than steel!
No shit, asshole.
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>>63729218
Earlier convo here >>63719495
I think that in the modern day they are pointless. I think they had a purpose in pocket watches. I think they are cool as fuck though.
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>>63728774
>wow finally a beautiful seiko
>presage line I can probably swing one
> dial is beauitiful
>fit and finish excellent for the price
>6r15 is a reasonable movement


>40.5mm
>12.5mm
>1400 USD

what did they mean by this?
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>>63729218
Gyros are beautiful
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>>63729352
can anyone help me decipher this watch
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>>63729403
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SK332qCpLO4
A 177 caliber with a dual jailed tourbillon that moves around 2 axis. A fine piece indeed.
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I feel like these are underrated and rarely mentioned. $100 automatic dress watches from Citizen model NH8350. Looks better than Seiko 5s or Orient bambino in the price range.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mb5W0BJxsmA
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What does /wt/ think of the Rolex Skydweller?
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why do numbered indices make a watch cost more?
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>>63729716
more ink
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>>63729694
Neat tech, but there's really nothing about the looks that I like.
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>>63729854
This.
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>>63729629
>that day/date placement
How large is this?
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>>63729694
It's really cool. I wish Rolex created more complicated watches, but I guess they're too busy making garish air kings and fat submariners.
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>>63728112
Yes. The gold plate on the 45 is not in the best condition but over all it's acceptable.
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>>63729924
40mm iirc
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>>63729854
>that fluted bezel
>elegant way of incorporating gmt and month without being some dive watch pointer monstrosity

it's a modern masterpiece you plebs
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>>63729629
They are quite big for such flat dialed watches. Even worse than the SRPA29/SRP703. I've seen one in person and it wears larger than a NY0040 because of the large dial and weird lugs.
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>>63730102
>that fluted bezel
Exactly. Ew.
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>>63729694

What's the red dot for?
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>>63730185
month

>>63730172
>Ew.
clueless kid detected. opinion discarded.
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>>63728790
Sweetie...
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Which brand to you, personally, is the coolest history-wise?
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>>63730233
>1 model out of thousands
just get one that isn't an homage

>>63730312
Seiko followed by Breguet followed by Cartier
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>>63730380
forgot my picture
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>>63730312
Eterna
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>>63729694
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>>63729694
fuck me lads that thing is fucking hideous. I really like rolex but fucking hell
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>>63730185
Quick scoping nubs
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>>63730233
Rolex "original oyster design" turns out to be a SEIKO 5 homage.
I cannot contain myself.
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>>63730312
Vacheron Constantin
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Reminder that if it's fitted with a metal bracelet it fails as a diver.
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>>63730796
It needs to be metal to act as ballast.
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>>63730312
A. Schild
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>>63730999
>t. A. Shill
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>>63730312
Jaeger-LeCoultre
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>>63730796
Reminder that if it has a day/date/year or any needless complication it fails as a diver.
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>>63731039
>only claim to fame is a reversible watch for clumsy polo players

ITS SHHHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITTTT
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>>63716596
Fuck off to >>>/fa/

>but we got thrown out of /fa/
bullshit, >>12968091
Get the fuck out of here cunts
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Is this watch a knock-off of something?
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>>63730312
Maybe Vostok
>First watch in space
>Really nice diver design used by soviet military divers
>Watches for the people and military
>Still relavant in modern times even when they use mech movements. Talking tool wise.
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>>63730312
Jaeger LeCoultre, having perhaps the greatest movement making history of any watchmaker that has ever existed.
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>>63731064
(You)
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>>63731098
And Komandirskies are 10/10 cheap rusky watchos.
>>63730312
JLC
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>>63731041
>t. skin diver baby
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@63731064
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>>63731183
>>63731115
>how do we solve the problem of meathead polo players who keep ruining their watches?
>do we experiment with tougher materials? invent a crystal that can withstand a hit? maybe we should implement shockproofing in the case?
>LOL LETS JUST FLIP IT OVER
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>>63729403
Time at the top, date across the middle, month on the left & power reserve I'm days on the right.
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@63731313
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>>63730999
My 50s Accurist has an A. Schild movement.
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>>63716596
is the watch itself connected to the 9V battery?
This thing would probably outlast the earth
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>>63728774
>flieger knob
Trash
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>>63730796
If you buy a fucking rolex and wear it on anything other than the bracelet you're a mongoloid and need to be publically stoned to death
I'm sick and tired of these fucking limp wristed clinical retards buying these shitty watches and putting them on rubber and leather.
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>>63731098
You forgot the whole +2 minutes a day thing
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>>63731092
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>>63731457
Nice daniel wellington anon
got an amazon link?
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>>63731416
more like doorknob
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>>63731442
>>>/fa/
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>>63731407
Most likely those wires from the watch are taking the alarm signal and sending it to a circuit that draws power from the 9v battery when activated creating a spark with the leads leaving the 9v battery.
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>>63731470
>poorfags want loud watches to stunt on other poorfags
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I like this watch
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>>63731098
>first watch in space
No.

>>63731455
>+2 minutes a day
No.
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>>63731588
nice lug overhang
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>>63731705
y-you too
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>>63731705
>45mm width, 53mm Lug to Lug, 15mm thick
It's a miracle it fits as well as it does. dude has huge fucking wrists
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>>63731476
But the milsub has welded lug bars, it never had a bracelet and can't be put on one.
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>>63731588
That doesn't look bad
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>>63731596
I put that same strap for my commie tonneau, though I don't think it's a Soviet-made strap.
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>>63732205
>>63732205
>>63732205




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