Uh, what the fuck? Am I being retroactively taxed for my purchases years ago? Is this even legal?
>>65092668You were always supposed to pay tax idiot.
>>65092799Sounds like it's not my problem that Newegg failed to collect it at the time of purchase. Their oversight. They should take the loss.
>>65092818Newegg is not legally obligated to collect sales tax, but you are responsible for paying it
>i didn't pay my taxes>now they want me to pay them>wtf!!!!!!
>>65092835Sounds like something I should have been informed about in 2014 or 2015 soon after I made those purchase. Not fucking four years later. On top of that I've never had to pay sales tax for most online purchases I've made. Usually it's only the cost of the product plus shipping. I've bought loads of stuff on ebay I've never been taxed on and I don't believe Amazon charged sales tax in my state a few years ago either though I wanna say it does now.
>>65092835You only need to pay sales tax on an item you purchase online if you live in a state where the seller is located or has facilities. Newegg has no distribution operations in CT. It seems to me there was a new law introduced recently that allows the state to charge sales tax on any online purchase regardless of whether they seller has facilities in state or not. The problem is they are trying to apply this law retroactively. It was not law when these purchases were made so they cannot be taxed.
>>65092818Newegg is not supposed to pay your taxes.
>>65092668This will be the end of newegg. They can't compete with Amazon without the rampant evasion of sales tax.
>you can no longer buy shit out of state and not get taxedFUCK
>>65092668>is a law legalOf course. It varies by state law. In my state for example your standard tax return form has a box on where you're supposed to self-report and pay use tax. The difference being companies doing business in my state aren't required to report this to the state. Apparently in your state they are, pay up goyim
>>65092910It's called a use tax. Basically any state that collects sales tax has a "use tax" for when you buy an item and its either "untaxed" or "undertaxed", you're supposed to note it on your tax form with the state at the end of the year and pay the tax.Note what I mean by undertaxed is, here in NJ we have a sales tax rate of 6.625%. If I physically drive to PA and buy an item in PA where they have a 6% sales tax and bring it back to NJ I am legally required to report that on my NJ tax return and NJ wants that 0.625%. If you aren't reporting untaxed or undertaxed stuff on your state tax return, you are committing tax evasion and if the government finds out they will go after you.
>>65092958>Apply this law retroactively>>65092910>Never had to pay sales tax on online purchases>>65092818>Not my problemIt's called a use tax and it's always been around for a ton of states. You're supposed to include in your taxes items you bought for use in your state that weren't hit with your states sales tax.
>>65092668fuck da oppz tbqh
>>65093024Sounds to me then that almost every American citizen is committing some degree of tax evasion because I know most people don't keep record of every single purchase they make and then go through hours of figuring out "okay did this seller charge me sales tax? Was it the right amount?" and then a bunch of math to figure out exactly how much they owe. Nobody does this. Of course you report big purchases like cars and things like that but you have to do this shit for every little purchase you make? $50, $20, $10? That's ridiculous.
>>65093083FUCK NO WAY>GOT TO OREGON NO TAXES>COME BACK HOME WITH SHIT>GIBERMENT WANT YOU TO PAY TAX ON OUT OF STATE SHIT
>>65093083Oy vey goyim, taxes are the price we pay for freedom and propertyDon't forget to keep all your receipts
USA USA USA
>>65092668lmao thats gonna be a bitch if it was tax advantageous to itemize in the year of 2014 related to your new found increase in sales/use tax deduction.
>>65093083in very rare cases are you not assessed/pay a sales tax when purchasing something. Amazon does it now, all the online websites do desu.
>>65093159It almost certainly was.
>>65093083Most Americans are probably committing some level of tax evasion, and at present the chance of your state tax agancy coming after you is minimal if you buy something out of state and drive it back home, but going forward as more and more stuff is bought online, more states will be demanding consumer data from the big e-retailers under threat of court action if they don't either tax their buyers, or release records for tax purposes.Honestly, in the next decade or so I wouldn't be surprised if the federal government passes a law making an agency for e-retailers to register with to collect sales tax from different states at their rates. Regardless, states want that money and they have a lot more money than you or the e-retailers to fight it.
>>65092958You always have to pay sales tax, the company just doesn't have to collect it if they aren't in your state
So much for freedom, americucks
>>65093194>>65092668Go get a CPA to revise 3 years of taxes and do this year. You'll be ok :)
the state will usually send you a bill and forgive the delinquency if you pay by a certain date.
Do you have to pay taxes on purely digital stuff to? Like if bought a digital copy of a game or if you subscribe to some service like a VPN or something with a recurring yearly/quarterly/monthly charge? Or do state sales taxes only apply to physical goods?
>>65093382Depends on your state law. Some states charge a different amount of sales tax on purely digital things compared to physical objects.
>buy heaps of hardware off newegg>never pay any taxgood luck finding me yanks
>retroactive taxes>the absolute state of burgerstan
>>65093382If your state collects sales tax you can be pretty sure they expect tax on digital items, however a handful of states put the tax on digital items lower than an the general sales tax rate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcCSutQQRuoGet fucked, cheapskate
Pretend you didn't read the mail, and act like none of this happened. Act oblivious, and I'm sure you can ride this out
>land of the free
>>65093455The tax isn't retroactive, you were always required to pay it, but the government didn't know before that the transaction took place.
>>65093083This.Fuck the CIA nigger IRS
>>65093455Honestly I'm fucking petrified. I knew CT was pretty liberal, but that's UK level taxation. Though Maryland isn't much better
>>65093474If I start paying sales tax on every online purchase from now on my taxes will be considerably higher. Do you think that would draw too much attention? You know people start asking "he barely owed anything last year but this year he owes a lot, why?" Should I pay off at least some of my back taxes? At least whatever purchases I've made in the last year or three that I can find information for.
Make a new account and cut off your card, maybe put a new one in that's a gift card and leave the account to rot, problem solved
>>65093535CT is one of the worst offenders. Even the liberals hate Malloy and want him >>>/out/.
>mfw seeing the tears of a miners who bought thousands of dollars worth of (((tax-free))) video cards from Newegg when they get a collection in the mail from the state demanding their entire profit
>>65093382https://www.salestaxinstitute.com/Sales_Tax_FAQs/out_of_state_retailer_collect_sales_tax>But just because the retailer doesn’t collect the sales tax doesn’t mean the purchase isn’t subject to tax. Purchases made on line aren’t automatically exempt from tax. If the retailer does not collect the sales tax, the purchaser has the obligation to pay the use tax directly to the state where the property is used as long as the item is taxable.
>>65093542If you're so scared then just pawn off your old hardware and update your electronics.They can't tax what you don't "own">Should I pay off at least some of my back taxes?Drawing attention to yourself is the last thing you should do. Unless they come to your door or make 30 phone calls, you should be in the clear
>>65092668eh relax, just play dumb, if they do try to make you pay it then pay it.
>Be retarded burger eating slob who doesn't check shit at checkout and just clicks next next next like a braindead mongoloid>Cry because you didn't read and now get taxed for purchases you did 3 years ago>Blame newegg even tho it's all your own fault.
CT is fucking desperate. The state is completely broke. They have these "rest areas" on their highways and I use quotes because they're nothing but tiny buildings with a dirty bathroom and couple vending machines. The state is so broke that they actually close the rest area buildings during the night and during peak traffic hours to save money. They set up porta-potties outside which are perpetually clogged with shit, gae the figer to truckers and called it a day. They're that desperate. One of the richest states in the country has the poorest government.
>>65093455there is something even worse. murricans have to pay taxes even when they are living overseas. so they have to pay taxes twice.
>>65093648They built loads of new rest stops on I-95 though and updated the ones on the Merritt pkwy too>One of the richest states in the country has the poorest government.That's on point though.
>>65093670also, US persons can't do illegal (in the US) stuff overseas, because if the govt finds out, they could be jailed in the US for those crimes... even if they aren't illegal in the country where they commited the "crimt"also, US and foreign companies can't do business with criminals, governments in blacklists, etc.US laws literally apply all over the world (aka "extraterritorial jurisdiction").
What about items from overseas. I've imported a handful of stuff. What the hell kinda taxes do I owe on things like that? I've also never had to pay import duties either. Am I in the clear with that or will some other government agency come after me because I didn't know I was supposed to pay those as well. I figured that should would be charged when I picked up the package and only if it was applicable. That's another thing I figured was/is handled by the seller and it's only if they fuck up the declaration or something that you have to pay but since I'm apparently ignorant as fuck I probably shouldn't assume that anymore.
>>65093713Depends on the value of the items. I don't remember what the limit is but under a certain dollar value you don't have to even declare it, over that value you have to pay duties, and I believe it's per return trip to the US.
>>65093713My guess is that you should try to be aware about what your state / national government is currently focusing on, or comply if you're made aware.You know the "<number> of felonies a day" saying, right? You're probably always in breach of some law and probably not rich and powerful enough to get away with it if push comes to shove. Just my (foreigner) impression, though.
>>65093709Moving to Japan and becoming a weeaboo expat is sounding better and better desu
>>65093741I haven't imported too many things and they have generally been fairly cheap. Most expensive item I think was a bit over $100. The rest has generally been under $50.
>America is so backwards that they expect customers to do sales taxes and whatnot on their purchases rather then the companies including that tax from the get go
>>65093752PS: The point is, I don't think they tried to retroactively make people pay taxes on these. Maybe you don't (yet) owe them, there are certainly some things that can be imported free for all I know.Either way you're probably in the clear if you're just doing everything a lot of people do, until you notice they start cracking down...? Seems to be the actual reality in the USA - the laws probably otherwise say you're a criminal and felon.
>OP is afraid of forking ~$120 in sales tax
>>65093768We have a thing called laws. They can't collect sales tax if they don't have a nexus in the state. Now why they don't collect "use" taxes, I'm not sure.
>>65093796it is more since it is past years tax faggot
>>65093768Yeah you'd think it'd be like that but nope, not in 'murrica apparently. I'll say I've got a lot more sympathy for tax evaders now given how easy it is to do it completely unintentionally. inb4 some asshat goes>ignorance of the law is no excuse for breaking itThat's true for shit like murder and theft but expecting people to know their local and federal tax code inside and out is ridiculous.
>>65093796If it was just that it wouldn't be major problem. If I factor in every single online purchase I've made in the last 10 years assuming none of the sellers charged sales tax or charged the correct sales tax then I actually owe quite a lot more.
>>65093808>OP is afraid of forking ~$250 in sales tax
>>6509371Import taxes I have no idea about. Sales and use taxes is completely state law so check there for hard legal information for your state, but they would have no reason to exclude foreign companies from taxes when their primary interest is collecting money. How over while US companies may bend over over threat for getting sued by states if they don't turn over customer data for tax purposes, foreign companies are less likely to do so as they don't answer to American courts, so while you might still be legally liable for taxes on those purchases under state law, the state would have no verifiable way of proving that that transaction took place unless the foreign company volunteered that information.
>>65093833Jesus Christ what do you buy online?
>>65093823Yurocucks have carbon taxes, TV license taxes and all other kinds of shit. No thanks.
>>65092897mfw this whole post
>not having a federal tax rate that companies put into the price of their goods or services and then having that tax distributed to the stateswhy is America so fucking stupid for stuff like this?>be foreigner visiting USA>decide to buy some stuff>pretty good deal, only $20>sorry sir, you need to pay tax and a tip>comes out to $30
>>65093842>the state would have no verifiable way of proving that that transaction took placeWhat are bank and import records.
>>65093804>We have a thing called laws.Do you understand these laws?I think in the USA, even the ESTIMATE how many laws are in effect was a topic for academic debate, and extracting even just a partial set of laws that apply to your situation is a sport for richfags that can hire dozens to hundreds of legal experts.I think as a pleb you mostly just try to reasonably interpret the basics not step on the bueraucrat's feets when they're trying to keep that trainwreck moving, right?
>>65093885>>sorry sir, you need to pay tax and a tiphow long until the jews demand we tip the online distribution centers?
>>65093754you will have to pay taxes in the US no matter what, until you renounce your nationality :^)
>>65093891States aren't going to send out subpoenas over every overseas purchase, they don't have the man power for that.
>>65093140>t. eurofag paying 30% taxes on purchases
>>65093670That's always struck me as crazy. No other country does double taxation
>>65093885> why is America so fucking stupid for stuff like this?Hacks upon hacks to try and keep something working, I guess?
>>65093951Fun fact, it is possible in the US to renounce your nationality while having no other nationality thereby preventing you from legally living in any country.
>>65092668ONLY IN THE UNITED SHIT OF AMERICA hahahahahaha
>>65094002so where would they deport you to?
>>65093962Yuros get taxed on the air they breathe. What's worse is that those tax funds are being used to pay for some other persons gender re-assignment surgery.
>>65094023to the ocean, obviously>>65094037just like Iran does. problem?
>>65094002> thereby preventing you from legally living in any countryThis is wrong. Of course countries can decide to allow legal residence, whether you're burger or anything else. It's up to them.
fucking manchildren>muh rig>wtf my parents always paid the taxes! >not MY problempiss off
Why the fuck is it my responsibility to pay SALES tax if I am buying something? The person who is making the SALE should be the one who pays the SALES tax. How did consumers end up paying what the seller should be paying?
>>65094023No idea. I'd assume whatever country you tried to enter would probably hold you in a jail while they decided what to do with you. I think you may be granted refugee status or something like that and from there you can go about attempting to acquire citizenship. Dealing with Stateless people is a bit of a tough issue.
>>65094062I'm sure there are quite many laws where both sides to a transaction owe the state money.Seems to be one of these situations?
>>65094048How is it in any way unreasonable for the retailer to collect sales tax? All other retailers collect sales tax. People make hundreds of purchases every year, it's ridiculous to expect them to keep hundreds of receipts and itemize them according to what the taxation rate is for each item and compare that to the tax collected by the merchant for each item.
>>65094062It's your responsibility to pay a use tax, not sales tax. Companies cannot collect a sales tax unless they have a nexus within your state as ruled by the supreme court.
>>65094062Because the seller isn't responsible for applying sales tax individually based on different states laws. Other countries for the most part dont have to deal with it because they have unified sales tax laws across the whole nation. If it wasn't for the EU then I would get screwed on customs when I order hardware from the continent.
>>65094048why are you on this board? if youre over 22 years old gtfo
>>65094062The federal government passed a law long ago saying it was not required for online retailers to collect sales tax at the point of sale unless they had a physical location inside the state because sales tax law is complicated for mom and pop businesses because many states have not just a state sales tax, but also allow their different counties to impose their own sale taxes, within those counties certain cities are allowed to imposed their own sales tax.
>all these pro-taxation big government shillsChrist, when did /g/ become /reddit/?
>>65092668that's what u get, keep voting for trump
>>65094122Only Yurocucks like getting taxed.
Just send newegg or amazon a file complaining that you live outside the us and you used a freight forwarder service, there, problem solved
>>65094154>implying this fag didn't use his home address and US phone number
>>65093885>live in Australia>Goods and Services Tax is included in the price>I can buy a product comfortably knowing that I don't have any hidden costs in my productfeelsgoodman.png
>Fresh faced teenagers learning about US tax law the hard wayWelcome to the real world kiddies
>>65093675Those rest areas are privately (on the Merritt) and semi-privately (on I-95) owned. The rest areas on I-91 and I-84 are wholly state owned and surprise those are the ones that can't keep open. Wonder why? I guess 3 vending machines and a free bathroom don't pay the bills. Meanwhile the other rest areas have food, groceries, gas and more in them, run by independent franchise owners and they turn a profit.
>>6509419899% of the population regardless of age doesn't know what a use tax is.
>>65094195> live in Australia> Goods and Services Tax is included in the priceWhat countries still don't do this apart from the USA, anyhow?
>>65094113>tfw 22 6 years ago>had already been trapped here for 7 years at that point
>>65094240Now they doGranted people don't report on a ton of taxes that they should technically be paying.Got to do your best not to attract attention.
>>65094253Dunno, but the USA can't really do it at all even if the feds wanted to. American states have a level of autonomy that's unknown in the rest of the world. They can do basically anything they want and many times violate federal law by doing it such as with recent weed legalization.
>>65093648>They have these "rest areas" on their highways and I use quotes because they're nothing but tiny buildings with a dirty bathroom and couple vending machinesHow fucking nubile are you? You literally described every rest stop in the USA.
>>65094307> American states have a level of autonomy that's unknown in the rest of the world.European states within the EU also should be able to veto or sabotage almost anything they care to.Switzerland also has administratively very autonomous states [perhaps more so than the USA in many regards]. They're just more careful about not stepping on each other's and the citizen's feet all the time because there will be reactions.Not to speak of the many nations that are federal by definition (pic related, look at all the green).It's not so charming, but I think the issue is more that you're trying to be exceptionally difficult than it being oh so hard to do with your states. "Everyone else" also can get this done.
>>65094408>How fucking nubile are you? You literally described every rest stop in the USA.Have you seen the rest areas in literally every other northeastern state? Jesus christ look at New Jersey's, they're practically shopping malls.
>>65094119>The 'UNITED' states of burgerland.Laffin' my ass off here. You have a fucking government. You have a president. You have laws that apply in every state. But all your shitty little states and counties ignore it and do their own damned thing regardless.
>>65094487that's the most american thing about america
>>65092668>Is this even legal?in your shitty state it is now apparently
>>65094460>technically>by definition>should be able toNow talk about what happens in reality, you scummy fucking cunt of a yuropoor. Way to try to twist shit to try to make it seem like every other nation has that too when they don't. The only ones who are smart are the Swiss. And even they didn't join the EU and saw what a sham that was. So, if you aren't from Switzerland, then you can suck our freedom loving balls, you pathetic groveling peasant.
>>65094487that's exactly why america is the greatest
>>65094487>hahahah you have so much freedom! ahaha you suck for having autonomy and being able to lead yourselvesThe absolute state of wherever you are from must be terrible. You actually find it laughable that people can have the freedom to say "no, fuck off" to a government and lead themselves. What kind of dystopian nation do you live in? Jesus Christ.
Land of The Fee
>>65092668>tfw live in new hampshire so never have to worry about paying any kind of (((sales tax)))
>>65093083The average American commits something like 4 felonies a day IIRC because of stuff just like this that's all bureaucratic bullshit that's only ever enforced if big brother needs ANYTHING to get you on.>see, Al Capone
>>65093598>If you're so scared then just pawn off your old hardware and update your electronics.>They can't tax what you don't "own"Except they can, because there's proof you bought it from a retailer and the retailer didn't collect sales tax. So unless you can provide a tax form saying you paid it later, it's back taxes that you owe from the original purchase.
>>65094511> Way to try to twist shit to try to make it seem like every other nation has that too when they don'tDidn't say that, I said the green countries are technically federations and they at least will have members that technically could also easily offer strong or nearly insurmountable resistance to label changes, plus some of the blue ones surely effectively could do the same, too.> The only ones who are smart are the SwissIn this context, it's just about literally everyone else, including the "sham" EU that also managed to not create price tags that aren't showing part of the cost.What nationality I am doesn't matter unless you're looking for random distractions?
all the states need to do this. then compusa and radioshack can reopen their stores.
>>65094482Well at least it's nice to know I'm not the only one who has unintentionally evaded this tax.>12% complianceIf they want more compliance then how about a system that isn't dependent on self-reporting holy fuck.
>tax not included in final priceUSA confirmed third world
>>65093083Just wait it out 3 years, faggot.
>>65092668>newegg too lazy to charge taxes in states with sales tax>their shit still costs more than amazon, which charges taxes correctly>shitty ass return policyseriously, why do people still use newegg?
>tfw you live in a state with no sales tax whatsoeverFeels good, man.
>>65094539> the freedom to say "no, fuck off" to a government and lead themselvesYou probably won't be able to avoid paying your taxes because you don't like that Newegg forgot to include them in prices.Seriously, you probably do not have this imaginary mythical LARP power to tell them to "fuck off".
>>65092668Oh boy, the jews did it again!
>>65094803>Seriously, you probably do not have this imaginary mythical LARP power to tell them to "fuck off".At least it's just the state government and not the feds. But you probably come from that islamic island nation where you have to pay the government just to watch TV.
>>65094771Sometimes they are cheaper or have something in particular I can't get on Amazon. It's rare but I've often found better prices on particular PSUs, and the occasional air cooler
I like how newegg handed over the records without even a subpoena.If you shop at this shit store that sells out its customers in seconds you a fucking moron.
>>65094856This, especially one that caved to the government of Connecticut of all states. Most Americans outside the northeast don't even know it exists and those that do only know it as the home of the WWE.
>>65092668connecticut is supposed to be wealthy. or its residents. or maybe the state government just wants a piece of it.
>>65092668>Am I being retroactively taxed for my purchases years ago?Yes>Is this even legal?In which way?>>Is it legal to retroactively charge taxesThe State and Federals Governments as well as the IRS can do this. NewEgg is not charging you tax, they're letting you know that they've submitted information to X state's tax agents about your purchased in <years> that may not have been appropriately taxed, after the states demanded this information from them.>>Is it legal to just give out my purchase details to a state government?Very gray area, this is why there will be lawsuits, as NewEgg may not have had the right to just hand over the information (they might also have been required, discovery will ascertain this, if the cases get thrown out prior to the end of discovery, you know why)>Uh, what the fuck? Very yes. This whole situation just highlights how FUCKED the us tax code is.ONE SIMPLE FLAT TAX ALREADY. It'll be hard but we can do it.
>>65094771>>65094856In my defense Newegg was better back when I started my build back in 2011-2012. I'm not sure what I ordered in 2014 but it was probably when I upgraded from GTX 670 to GTX 970 and probably also when I bought the additional two monitors and maybe another hard drive or two so that would cover most of that $1200 or so dollars. I have generally avoided them since their shipping prices went up though and this whole affair with reporting my purchases to the government has really put me off. I'm sure as shit not buying hardware from them again and I'd recommend no one else does either.
>>65094831> At least it's just the state government and not the feds.You mean this time. The feds will collect their share too, and no, you can't really tell them to "fuck off" either. I mean, everyone can, but the consequences are bad to prohibitive and probably nobody is gonna save you.> But you probably come from that islamic island nation where you have to pay the government just to watch TV.Not that one. But it's not important, I do have to comply, yes.TV is regulated, I couldn't either send or receive anything on most of the frequency spectrum or infrastructure for free. They probably wouldn't bother about the occasional bit, but if they did I'd be in trouble.Can you use your "fuck off" method and just receive or send on TV unregulated? I doubt it...
>>65094771Amazon doesn't sell RAM, that's why.There is RAM on Amazon but it's not sold by Amazon directly and third party resellers are even more scummy than newegg.
>>65094914They were entirely bought out by chinks in 2016.
Unconstitutional, violates the commerce clause.
>>65094487L O LThat's literally the whole point. You have to have some level of granularity across all the different regions and cultures.The same set of laws isn't going to work for both your goat farmer in Wyoming and your businessman in NYC.
I seem to remember a few years ago one of the circuit courts ruling that states weren't allowed to collect back taxes on online purchases. Did this happen or was a dreaming it up?
>>65094907There was some kind of error when doing the budget for the state some time back, like a really big fuckup, and suddenly there was a $200 million dollar deficit or thereabouts. I don't know all the details. Well to cover that the state raised taxes with the highest tax rates towards to wealthy. Well it turns out when you tax rich people more they just say lol fuck this and move to a state with lower taxes so that plan failed and now the state was making even less money. So the new plan is tax all the remaining citizens to death and gut the budget for stuff like schools and hospitals too because you know those aren't important or anything.
what is with ct and constantly ramming me in the fuck ass. i saw this in my inbox a few days ago but didn't pay attention and just x'd out of it.
>>65094960CT is literally run by the mob, and badly at it too. Rhode Island is also mafia run but they can at least keep the government from going broke.
jesus christ op is an uninformed fucking retard
>>65094914Until ~2016 NewEgg was an American company (founded and headed by ROC Chinese/Taiwanese migrants).Then suddenly out of nowhere ownership was changed to a group in PRC by September 2017 ALL of the original executive/managerial staff had been replaced.Even Lee Cheng is gone (the lawyer who successfully defended NewEgg from frivolous patent trolls)NewEgg isn't the same company it was 2-3 years ago.That NewEgg was an industry champion.This NewEgg is a Chinese scam (remember: it's all PRC now)
>>65094972nah, there's only ~12% compliance with the use tax in this state. I am far from the only one who is uninformed. But good for you for being such a knowledgeable little shit.
>>65094954Sue the states then?
>>65094985cool story bro
>>65093675the merritt is a fucking nightmare, i dont even use it anymore. constantly jammed. fairfield county needs to just re do the whole fucking thing and make it 4 lanes. it's just going to get worse and worse if they don't.
don't forget to pay, we don't wanna see another fucking thread about you crying
Uh, what the fuck? Am I being retroactively taxed for my purchases years ago? Is this even legal?Sounds like something I should have been informed about in 2014 or 2015 soon after I made those purchase. Not fucking four years later. On top of that I've never had to pay sales tax for most online purchases I've made. Usually it's only the cost of the product plus shipping. I've bought loads of stuff on ebay I've never been taxed on and I don't believe Amazon charged sales tax in my state a few years ago either though I wanna say it does now.Sounds to me then that almost every American citizen is committing some degree of tax evasion because I know most people don't keep record of every single purchase they make and then go through hours of figuring out "okay did this seller charge me sales tax? Was it the right amount?" and then a bunch of math to figure out exactly how much they owe. Nobody does this. Of course you report big purchases like cars and things like that but you have to do this shit for every little purchase you make? $50, $20, $10? That's ridiculous.Uh, what the fuck?Is this even legal?Am I being retroactively taxed for my purchases years ago?Sounds like Sounds to me
>>65095011Driving anywhere in this state is a nightmare. If there isn't traffic there's construction (though they usually go hand in hand) if there isn't construction there's potholes. If it isn't potholes it some asshole doing fucking 45 in the passing lane. Traffic is so bad that anywhere East of I-91 might as well be a completely different state given how long it takes to get there from nearly any point in the western half of the state.
>>65095059>There are potholes>Complain about potholes>Complain about roadworks?
>>65095066>Complain about roadworksIt's ok to complain about roadwork in CT because anywhere you see it, it has been going on since at least the mid-90s. They aren't actually doing anything. I've been driving the stretch from Waterbury to Hartford for almost 20 years now and the same places are still under construction.
Is this even legal?
>>65095066That sounds stupid but listen, rather than being sensible and maintaining roads as issues developed over time CT has done a whole lot of fucking nothing for years and has let roads deteriorate and then for whatever stupid ass reason they decide to do all manner of construction projects seemingly everywhere all at the same time. Everything from high expansion, to bridge repair, to pothole filling. This is stupid for two reasons, 1.) Big budget deficit 2.) When you do construction in a lot of places at the same time you cause a massive amount of gridlock. You can't do a lot of projects at once and expect to keep traffic moving.
>>65095083it's a mess. in my city the roads are a disaster, can't drive anywhere without getting stuck in traffic, nowhere to park, and yet they keep allowing developers to build all these fucking apartment buildings all over the place which just keeps making the problem worse.
>>65095121Maybe you should consider public transit?
>>65095125lol no, this isn't nyc, the public transit here is a complete joke
>>65095125>american public transit>anywhere outside nycyou have to change trains to get from danbury down to grand central and it's part of the same line, it's faster to drive down to stamford and get on the new haven line there
>be seppo>purchase products>have to file a seperate document to pay tax>go to restaurant>have to remember to tip more than the cost of the actual ,eal
>burgers still haven't included taxes with the price
Welp, looks like it's time to move statesThey can't tax me if they can't find me and I'll be damned if I pay backtaxes on my internet purchases
>>65095168they'll track you down because ct needs all the money for DEM PROGRAMS
>>65095190I don't live in CTbut I'm not about to kid myself - IL will be just around the corner
As a home owner I can't even make myself care. I pay over $30k/year, most of it property tax to various local, state and federal bodies. Another couple hundred is just one extra thrust from the government cock in my ass.
>>65095184freedom ain't free baby
>>65095202Exhibit 2 as to why I need to get the fuck out of IL
>USANot even once. Not even.
>>65095210>chances are he's posting from a VAT country
>>65095207freedom should be free as in beer.
>>65092668>Freedomland is fucking me right on my arseThat's right yank, now fuck off!
>>65095246>That's right yank, now fuck off!At least I can fuck off to a home where all the little girls in the neighborhood haven't been forced to fuck every Hadji in a 50 mile radius
Uh, what the fuck?
>>65093989Seems to be the very definition of most, if not all governments to be honest.
>>65092668so this is what the land of the free looks like
>>65095137>>65095133Maybe it's time for some consolidation of railways?It's not like this isn't something every city has had to go through...US cities/states are very afflicted by NIH though.
>>65095317Just another day in Clapistan.
>>65092818It's literally your problem, regardless of Newegg failing to tax you at the point of purchase.
No its not , your a private citizen.
>>65094113Remember you made this post in a decade, faggot.
>>65095319>Maybe it's time for some consolidation of railways?Not really, the railways are already there and have been consolidated for the most part. It's just that there aren't enough of them and they don't go where people need them to.
>>65092668no fucking shit sherlock
>>65095365>NIHIf you have to change trains several times just to get to central - it's not really consolidated.I can understand needing to change AT central for another train - but changing to get to central is unacceptable.
Uh, what the years ?am I being legally taxed for my purchase fucks ago ? Is this even retroactive ?Loss like it's not my new egg that purchase failed to collect it at the time of the problem. Their oversight. They should take the sounds.
>>65095399how many times are you going to post this you fucking autist?
>>65095399>Uh, what the years ?>am I being legally taxed for my purchase fucks ago ? >Is this even retroactive ?>Loss like it's not my new egg that purchase failed to collect it at the time of the problem. Their oversight. They should take the sounds.LMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMFAO
>>65092668>Newegg didn't include Sales tax into it's price>Newegg didn't disclose this at any point of purchase>Tax the consumersAND THE LAAAAND OF THE FREEEEE
>>65092668>>65092910>>65093083How can you be this naive? not knowing is one thing, but being this fucking idiotic about it. Likely had dumb parents
>>65095399>>65095414Is this some new form of meta--shitposting?
>>65095412its not only me you fucking retard
>>65092668How do they even report you? Don't they need SSN or other proof of identity?I live in Louisiana and got an email, but it doesn't say anything about them reporting it. It just says I may be required to pay taxes. I'm going to ignore the fuck out of it.
legally , what the years ?am I being uh taxed for my puregg chase fucks ago ? Is this even new ?Loss like it's my problem. that purchase failed to collect it at the time of the oversight. Their sounds. They should take the sounds.
>>65095452Seems to go back to 2014
>>65095458Is this even new ?Uh, what the fuck?Am i being legally taxed?Sounds like it's their problem. My purchase, their problem. My sounds, their sounds.
>>65095399holy shit my sides
Am i being legally fuckedsounds like new soundsTheir problem
>>65095095>>65095048>>65095294>>65095387>>65095399>>65095414>>65095426>>65095452>>65095458>>65095468Some real weapons grade autism here
america is fucked, just incorporate it into the price you retards. VAT and GST work perfectly
>>65095518no thanks, i'll stick with new hampshire's policy of no taxes and sprawling state run liquor stores
>>65092668you've been always been taxed, your stuff, your house, your food, and your life
I guess there goes America's cheap hardware, now you're paying taxes too, faggots.
holy shit this thread
>>65095618agreed, the autism and the op are both fucking cancer
>>65092818Lol tell the judge. You are so fucked. Buttrape jail for ya
Say it was pop-tarts, and thus not taxable.
>>65093024Too fucking bad it's not my job to spend several hours a day autistically making sure I am letting government steal the correct amount of money from me through bullshit tax laws. If they want my tax money then they are the ones who need to work for it.
>>65095836Actually, it IS your job. That said, if you move out of state, they won't be able to do shit. They'll give you a court summons, you throw it in the trash. You lose by default, but they can't do shit so long as you don't reside in the state. They won't put out an arrest warrant or anything, but they will require you to pay the back taxes from any paycheck you get from any job you have within the state.
>>65095836lmao naive as fuckthis entire thread
>>65095894>>65095905Government can't do anything about it. Haven't been caught and won't be caught ever. All my online purchases are made with a pre-paid card and I order them to amazon lockers for pick up usually through someone else's computer and internet they can't identify it's me.
>>65095916>Government can't do anything about it.Different argument than what you originally made. Also, you don't have to do any of that crap, you know? It's beyond tinfoil. You can literally pick up a prepaid card from a Walmart, and pay with cash, and you'll be fine. I recommend Bluebird, as there are zero fees to use it.
>>65093024>>65092668OP just move to a less retard state.Use tax my ass, what if you buy something so you can warp in present paper and send to someone in a state without use tax? it's bullshit tax
>>65095916ok? good job taking care of yourself.. hope you continue to do so. Really, im proud. is that what you want your parents to think too?
>>65095928lol op has issues. let him beas for the thread, you did all that you could op, good job/thread closed
>dodge tax>get offended when newegg cooperates with the IRS to get you to pay tax
>self-reporting taxyou can't be serious, how is this still a thing?
>>65096123Because businesses aren't legally required to charge you tax. Making that a regulation means that small businesses will struggle to get it all sorted, since sales tax can vary by city.
>>65096136yea it's better to let people do it (or not by looks of it) then pay all those hunters to deal with this kind of shitfest gotta keep those gooberment jerbs, right
>>65096157There are plenty of sites that will include tax for you. If you want to use them, then use them. If not, then be responsible for yourself, instead of demanding that everyone else takes care of you.
>>65095415Newegg did include sales tax in its price.The problem is that different states have different tax laws, such that if you buy something outside the state that is then delivered into the state in some cases you have to pay tax to the state.The other problem is that while the company CAN do this on your behalf, under the tax law (which was probably written up before Internet shopping became a thing) it is up to the buyer to ensure they pay the tax.The big problem here is that most of the tax laws were written up before Internet Shopping took off. Buying out of the state would have been fairly uncommon outside of businesses and if you were doing out of state buying then you would probably track it.Now you can just go online and click a couple of times, you don't know where the product comes from, but the taxes still need to be paid.
>>65092668Why aren't American priced VAT included? They just need to increase the price depending of the billing or shipping address. It would avoid bullshit like this.
>American tax policiesWhat the fuck, just include a VAT already. Jesus Christ, how much extra are you guys billing tax payers for this inefficient and extremely beuracratic way of collecting taxes?
How can this possibly be enforced? You can sign up with any name you want and get stuff shipped to any address you want. Can you just get someone fucked and make them owe a ton of tax? Only way they could verify who actually bought it is if they give out payment info which sounds very illegal.
>>65096243>Can you just get someone fucked and make them owe a ton of tax?Probably, but they're also gonna get a ton of free shit for it.
>>65096243The buyer is taxed, not the shipment address.
>>65096243>Only way they could verify who actually bought it is if they give out payment info which sounds very illegal.Not only is it legal, they are actually required by US law to give that info to the IRS.
>>65093713Stuff bought from white people is taxed like crazylike up to 100% crazybut china of course doesn't get taxed at all and the US subsidizes the shipping>tfw mom buys nice irish linens>85% tax to bring into country>tfw i buy cheap chinese shit off gearbest>free shipping and no tax
>>65094002you can renounce but you are always subject to US law
>>65096351>you pay different sales tax based on where you live, rather than paying taxes to the state you're buying in (aka where the company is based)VATs don't have this problem
>>65096390Yeah, well, you need to rewrite tax law in all the states first.Also, they're paying VAT and state tax.
I would never live in Connecticut. I remember taking a bus to ny and there was a section of the highway called the 'jewish soldiers memorial highway'. Kek
>>65096419>paying VATs >AND sale taxes and state taxes>"lol yuropoors are taxed to death"So you're taxed three times on the same fucking thing, and yet you faggots go on about how European taxes are so high?
>>65096419>Also, they're paying VATNo, we're not>>65096453Only state sales tax
>>65096468>Only state sales taxAnd other taxes to finance government employees who's job it is to collect taxes because of your inefficient system that relies on self-reporting and maximum bureaucracy.
>>65096478>And other taxesNo. There's one state tax for purchases
>>65096500There's local sales tax, too.
>>65096500I was talking about taxes in general, such as income taxes, property taxes etc. The government wasting everyones time by tracking down people who didn't pay taxes when they should, that's sounds extremely wasteful to me.
>>65096518the fragmentation makes it more difficult for them to actually collect the tax though. It's always a good thing to make it more difficult for a government to tax.
>>65096545Except it means that you have to finance the salary of government officials who's sole job is to collect taxes. And you do this, ironically, through paying taxes.I mean, the IRS' budget is over $10 billion. That's just fucking insane.
>>65096518They go after a handful of people, typically the worst offenders, and try to make an example out of them. Just like they did with Napster back in the day.
>>65096582the point is to ensure they collect less total revenue, even if more of what they do collect gets spent on collecting. 10 billion ain't a lot anyway. Defense and medicare are about a trillion each. I'd happily triple spending on the IRS if it meant that those programs got cut in half due to lack of revenue.
>>65094408>How fucking nubile are you?>nubileThere are no girls on the Internet, anon.
>>65092668>>65092818>>65092910>>65092958>>65093083>>65093199>>65093535>>65093542>>65093582>>65093598>>65095452>>65095468>>65095489>>65095836>>65096123>>65095399ignorantia legis neminem excusat
>>65092668What the hell is wrong with you americucks?Any sane country would include the sales tax in the price.When I see something that costs $20, I can expect to pay $20.
>>65096632>euro are to lazy to do math >not realizing sale tax is local and state>not realizing different cities in the same state have different rates, not realizing different states have different rates
>>65096642>>euro are to lazy to do math I'm not european. Also why would I waste my time with that?_Also_, it leads to everything to be an annoying non-round amount, making buying anything with cash a huge pain in the ass.>>not realizing sale tax is local and state>>not realizing different cities in the same state have different rates, not realizing different states have different ratesThat's also caused by your retardation.
>>65096508Some localities do, yeah>>65096632>>65096653VAT is not welcome in the US
>>65096653>being a centralized fag from some shithole
>>65096632Stores like it that way because it lets them advertise lower prices. At least some political groups want it that way too, to remind people of how much the government's taking, and thereby make sure people notice and grumble when they try to take more. I've seen more than one Yuro who was like "Damn, why is everything so expensive?" Well yeah, that's the 20-something percent VAT, the huge import surcharge, etc, but they don't see on the price tag how half of what they're paying is the government's protection money.
Friendly reminder that taxation is theft
>>65092668Only in amercia kek
>>65096694Land of the free so they a re free to tax and you are free to not get caught
>>65093885If you fill a tax form, you should be able to get the money back at the airport; which is ironic considering that the printed form, your time wasted filling it and the time and wages of the government official that receives, checks and reimburses those taxes is essentially wasted.
so what if I don't make enough money to owe taxes? Do I still have to report this shit?
oh ya, sad thing is all newegg had to do was agree to charge sales tax going forward and nothing would have happened but nope, they decide to just hand over all their customer's data instead
>>65096606>wants medicare spending to be cut in half
>>65094482lmao, I love how even the commissioner admits Newegg are essentially ratting out their customers while they didn't have to do so, legally anyway.
>>65093535UK doesn't do this shit
>>65092818enjoy getting anally raped by the irs retard
>>65093083Normal states have a default amount that they throw into the individually owed state tax estimates every year. Here in NY it's something like $100. You can claim it was zero but they're more likely to audit you. I've always paid it.The idea of paying a clawback amount 10 years from now based on some shit that I thought I already paid for is crazy
>>65092910Ignorance of the law is not a defense in court.I am more than ready to accept whatever hit I have to take when Texas comes to collect their state sales tax on my ass, assuming it ever happens, considering I haven't paid sales tax on a number of items. Just the way it works, man.
>>65092958That depends on the state. Nearly all states have a "use tax", and all tax prep applications ask you if you have made a purchase from outside the state for which you paid no sales tax. Nearly everyone answers "no" because they either 1) didn't read the question carefully/didn't understand it, or 2) believed that they wouldn't get caught. Under both conditions you are still bound to pay the use tax in the event that proof comes out years later that you failed to pay it.
>>65094909>>Am I being retroactively taxed for my purchases years ago?>YesWhat's "retroactive" about it, OP always owed it at time of purchase and just never bothered to pay
>>65098050Key word... >when THEY come and collect I'm waiting till they send me a bill then I'll pay!!! Let them earn their pound of flesh!!!
>wanting a bigger socialist government with even MORE taxes and control over how the government spends moneykek, bernouts BTFO
>>65094511t. 56% that found out he's not so special
>>65092668Is Connecticut a blue state?
Newegg should be charging sales tax in these states. Simple, stop doing business with them until they do. Why take the risk of the government going after your ass? The pennies you save in sales tax is not worth it when there are many other options.
People keep generalizing that this is some way that sales tax always works.In Florida, you only pay sales tax if the distribution center where the item is shipped is in FL. And it's the seller who collects it.You simply don't file taxes in FL as an individual. It's collected by the government where you get a permit from a fee, or in sales tax from the seller.
>>65098108>Nearly everyone answers "no" I dunno who you're talking to but the default estimated use tax is always ridiculously low and everyone answers yes because why wouldn't you want to underpay your taxes when the state is actively encouraging that you do so
>>65098403Generally Blue for like a decade or two.
>murrikkans taking it in the ass>most even defending itKek, what happened? I thought those guns you are collecting are for preventing guberment from shitting all over you? Or are they strictly for school excursions?
Didn't know yuropoors were this ignorant. People talk shit about burgers being ignorant about other countries and talk like they know everything but this thread shows that everyone else doesn't know shit about USA and how states are pretty much their own country. Just because this is happening in one state doesn't mean another one is doing the same thing.
No income tax: Wyoming, Washington, Texas, South Dakota, Nevada, Florida, and Alaska. Along with this, Tennessee and New Hampshire only impose tax on income from dividends and interest.No sales tax: Alaska, Delaware, Montana, New Hampshire, Oregon.My advice is to move to New Hampshire.
>>65099821>My advice is to move to New Hampshire.New Hampshire is good only if you meet certain criteria. It has no sales tax on most things, but they do have sales tax on prepared.foods so if you order out or eat at restaurants a lot you'll be paying an extra 9%. They also have some of the highest property taxes in the country, so owning a home there is pretty expensive. Also, there aren't many jobs in NH, most people who live there commute down to Massachusetts to work so they have to pay income tax in both states.
>>65099957>but they do have sales tax on prepared.foods so if you order out or eat at restaurants a lot you'll be paying an extra 9%I'm too socially awkward to even pick up a phone not to mention actually go out and eat, so not a problem for me.
>>65092668>living in Connecticut and complaining about taxesYou did this to yourself. Now shut the fuck up and pay the state.
Move to a different state.
>>65092818Legally, Newegg is responsible for collecting it under federal law, but you are responsible for paying it. Amazon, newegg, and just about every other online company selling across state lines didn't collect it for years because it made prices appear lower. If anyone bothers, the companies can probably be forced to pay any taxes from sales older than 2017.
>>65098571Florida has a use tax and the forms for collecting it too. Just because it's not being enforced like OP's scenario doesn't mean it's not there.
Why don't they just add it onto the total of every product like a normal shop?
>>65100096Because Americans like to be reminded that they pay taxes.
>>65098526Just pay your taxes Steven
>>65096618This af OP. Ignorance is no excuse.
>>65100096Because there are 50 different states in the USA and every one of them has different tax laws, so Newegg decided that they were too lazy to do what numerous other online retailers did and actually collect taxes at purchase and make their customers save all their receipts every year and do it themselves. Then when people didn't know they had to do it themselves they handed over the personal info and purchase history of their customers to the government without even being compelled. Newegg is a shit company run by the Chinese. People need to stop giving them their money.
>>65100217>you pay taxes based on where you live rather than where you buy fromWhat kind of logic is this?
>>65100226If that was the case then I'd buy everything via panama.
>>65100280>If that was the case then I'd buy everything via panama.Isn't that literally why tax havens and letterbox companies exist in the first place?
>>65094956Wow, they're masters of creating a slum!
>>65100323You'd probably have trouble getting those to work for sales tax on items you import into the US. They're more for letting you avoid corporate or income taxes.
>>65100226It's called a Use Tax. They exist to tax purchases made where a Sales Tax isn't charged. Since a tax isn't charged at sale, the product is taxed for its "Use" by the buyer. Most American states only enforce them on large expensive items like boats, cars, RVs etc. but they can technically enforce them on any purchase where a sales tax wasn't collected. The State of Connecticut is broke so they got desperate and started going after people buying stuff on Newegg.
Taxation is theft
>>65100474I see. Thanks for the explanation.
>>65092668>Newegg provided the Connecticut Department of Revenue Services with the total dollar amount of purchases made by you during these yearslmao what a shithole state, nobody pays use tax
>all these statist faggots in this thread
>>65094771Newegg was pretty okay about 4-5 years ago. Now they are garbage.
>>65092818You were supposed to include the purchase in your taxes if you saw that Newegg neglected to include it in the price.Why didn't you file this in your taxes 4 years ago? Hope you enjoy federal prison, and not being able to vote nor get a job any more!
>>65098526They take no risk, the consumer has to self report.
>>65093083>>65093099I love Oregon man, the rest of the US is such shit
>>65100708Californians are gonna roastie you
>>65100741Our biggest immigration group over the last thirty or so years have been Californians. When I was younger I was worry about them overflooding the culture and ruining the state but it seems like the majority of them are sick of California's shit and are happy to integrate
>>65100708Oregon is great. Black people weren't even allowed to move here until the 1920s so their numbers are really low.
>>65100559shithole state or shit company? they didn't have to sell their customers out, y'know. Another choice was offered but they're such a bunch of government cocksuckers they'd rather fuck ordinary citizens up the ass.
>>65092818Its not newegg's responsibility. You are to pay taxes.
>virgin and broke liberal statesvs>chad and "madmax" conservative states
>>65092668whats the tax rate?I bet its something like 5% amerilards always find reasons to complain
>americans have to pay for expensive tax preparation services because their tax return forms are so arcane and complex that they require specialized training to fill out>the IRS's attempts at simplifying tax returns have been repeatedly blocked by tax preparer lobbyists>americans not only have to keep track of their shit manually, they'll get a letter when they fill 1040EZ incorrectly because the IRS already knows how much you made anyway
>>65094408he (female) is one nubile nubian