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How to request purchase advice: https://pastebin.com/fYZLW7Ub

For sub-$50 headphones and IEMs, check out the infographic in >>>/g/csg

Headphone guide: https://canpicker.com/

/g/ wiki headphone FAQ: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Headphones

Previous thread: >>66326037
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sennheiser
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stax
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Has anyone here tried Snugs/custom molded ear tips? My ears have a lot of trouble with universal tips.
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>>66331197
buy stax
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>>66331197
buy stax
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>>66331197
buy stax
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I'm not buying stax
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>>66331243
garbage
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>>66331220
>>66331232
>>66331240
Has anyone here tried Snugs/custom molded ear tips? My ears have a lot of trouble with universal tips.
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buy stax
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>>66331260
buy stax
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Are Bose worth the price or are they just a meme?
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>>66331145
Now that schiit has been outed as actual shit (who would have guessed), what's the go to dac in the $100 or less category? What about amp?
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>>66331280
no shitphones
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Can someone who has AES membership share this new paper with us?

A Statistical Model that Predicts Listeners' Preference Ratings of Around-Ear and On-Ear Headphones

http://www.aes.org/e-lib/browse.cfm?elib=19436
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>>66331286
topping d10/d30 is pretty universally agreed now to be a great dac, everybody is still arguing about the amp side though. personally I don't consider there to be any good amps below $200 that are really "worth it"
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After wasting so much time and money, what do you think is the finalpill on headphones and personal audio in general?
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>leave computer for 10 minutes
>bunch of buy stax posts
well, shit. when in rome I guess

buy stax
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>>66331243
>two headphones that aren't stax
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>buy stax
What if I already have SR-009s then?
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>>66331302
either you buy stax or you get out of it entirely and never go beyond $100 again
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>>66331321
need a dark stax so buy an 007 to complement your stax with a stax
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>>66331299
>d10/d30
Thanks, I'll look into those. $200 for an amp is out of my budget though. I'm really only looking for something to replace my busted magni 2. Something that hopefully won't burn a hole in my desk.
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>>66331306
>17 unique ips
buystax general
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>>66331330
Maybe eventually, I'd rather put that money towards the new 009S, or somehow find an SR-Ω for sale at a non-ridiculous price.
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>>66331338
yea I mean there are some ok amps out there for around $100, its just that I can't really personally recommend any of them as being very clearly good and all of them have their own set of flaws. unlike the topping which is basically more dac than you could ask for.
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>>66331306
What did you leave your computer for?
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>>66331362
I guess I'll just save up then. What do you recommend for $200?
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>>66331372
stax
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>>66331372
do not listen to this retard, you can buy an audibly transparent amp+dac for $10
there are dozen of amps below $100 just look for them and their measurments
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>>66331372
meier audio corda rock

emotiva a100
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>>66331368
my stax were sounding so incredible it was emotionally fatiguing, I had to leave the room for 10 minutes
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>>66331372
the o2 amp is still perfectly fine for $100, people act like it got outdated but it was great then and it's still great now
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>>66331413
>o2 amp
That's what I was going to buy before getting meme'd into the magni 2. If you or anybody else owns one, can you please answer some questions I have in comparison to the magni? Does the o2 run hot? Does the right audio channel cut out when you lower the knob close to minimum? Do you get any noticeable static noise when adjusting the knob?
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>>66331402
I would fucking love to buy a corda rock if only I could find one
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What with the nostax fags posting buy stax?
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>>66331321
did you pre-order one? I almost did but I might be moving soon and didn't want to have it arrive after I'm gone
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should i buy the stax L700 and wait for used amp or just get the hd800s
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>buy electrostatic headphones
>get electrocuted

Funny! That's really funny! I just did a lol! Fuck you guys for recommending these to me.
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>>66331479
depends, do you want good sound or do you want the sennheiser logo to impress normies
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>>66331483
YOU CANNOT GET ELECTROCUTED BY STAX STOP SPREADY MEMES
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>>66331473
Nah, don't have the spare cash for one now. Maybe if I sold my current estat amp.
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>>66331494
Yes you can
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>>66331495
I also want to wait for measurements, but I probably won't wait long enough to demo one because the audio stores around me lag by a year or two and don't usually get stuff in that fast
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>>66331509
It'll likely measure mostly the same as the 009 to be honest. It'd be nice if stax somehow got rid of that notch around 70Hz, but iirc that's an artifact to do with the earpad depth/size.
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>>66331458
buying stax will solve your nostax faggotry
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>>66331562
nice stax
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Any portable headphones, stax are good but only for home use I need for travel and only tested shit headphones like beats
Suggest me
Budget $300-$350
Thanks anon
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>>66331649
no shitphones
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>>66331649
sony 1000xm2
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So this is the power of /hpg/...
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>>66331145

No, you dont need 3 digit price headphones to listen your shitty anime music.
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>>66331730
This. When will animefags learn?
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>>66331738
when will they learn to buy stax
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>>66331746
When they stop being dumb
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>>66331730
you are right you definitely need L700s for anime which has a 4 digit price tag
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>>66331756
See
>>66331746
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Knock Knock
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stax posters need to be banned, not even headphones, earspeakers
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>>66331912
A bridge between headphones and speakers, they're both :^)
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>>66331815
who's there?
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>>66331947
Stax
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>>66331949
stax who?
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Smelly stuffy stinky feet!
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>>66331954
Stax, Buy

Buy Stax
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where do i start with speakers? what are some guides out there? what are the hd600 of speakers?
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Any suggestions for an OTL amp?

DT-880 600ohm
Topping D30 DAC

Ideally <$250
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>>66332031
>Any suggestions
stax
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>>66331197
>>66331260
they're massively overpriced. try something like these instead:
http://spiralear.com/en/products/se-custom/index.html
http://www.puretonemusic.net/silicone_personal_moulds.html
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How does /hpg/ clean their dusty-ass earpads?
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>>66331458
No shame these stax cultist. They don't like me because I have stax and I don't kneel at the altar.
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>>66332219
you had a chance to take a picture of your stax next to your argons
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reminder that you have two days left to order a nfb 11.38, the best dac/amp combo under $1k.
http://www.audio-gd.com/Pro/Headphoneamp/NFB1138/NFB1138EN.htm
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>>66332227
Did't even think of the stax. I was to intoxicated by the Argons to care about them. Shame. You are gonna have to wait. But you can still keep thinking I don't have them though.
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>>66332253
whatever you say soiboi. did you actually buy stax and that's why you are asking people to wait? I'll believe it when I see it
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>>66332031
>600Ohm
emotiva xbass a-100
8 freaking watt per channel.
It's ~$230 right now.
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>>66332186
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>>66331438
you can order it from the meier audio site
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>>66332238
you pay $90 more for the different number in the DAC. Amp is exactly the same, sound would be similar.
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>>66332265
Whatever helps you sleep fedora anon.
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>>66332318
>sound would be similar.
as in similar to every other solid state amp out there?
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>>66331912
>stax posters need to be banned
Just those that spam stax or buy stax with no context.
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>>66332326
just buy stax
>>66331912
stax
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>>66332322
That much money on shitty HD600??
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>>66332323
NFB got no op-amps so it is a little different than your usual solid state.
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>>66332342
so basically you admit that NFB measures like trash and you are peddling it to people who don't understand they are being sold snake oil
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Is it easier to get supreme chink products his eurpo?
https://www.magnahifi.com/en/webshop/product/agd-nfb11-28
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>>66332350
>Measuring DACs
Bold. Brave. Useless.
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>>66332350
I got one, I know it sounds better than usual solidstate after a/b the two. That's all I need to know.
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>>66332366
nobody measured NFB11 by the way
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>>66332379
did you use a switch? was it blind? I have some $10,000 cables to sell you anon
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>>66332384
tonedeaftest.com
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is this objectively the best headphone amp?
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>>66332451
>objective
implies a framework with stated goals, which are subjective

and also no
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>>66331436
I have a JDS labs one and it's been pretty good for me. Only issues I've noticed are turning it on and off with the headphones plugged in, it causes the headphones to make a popping noise, so I just unplugged it before I switch it. I've barely had this happen but I think it's only if the headphone jack isn't pushed in 100% it causes a light noise in the playback. For the heat, it's constantly charging a battery so it does have warmth no more than a cellphone charging. The left channel cuts out for me but I never have it close to that low.

For the gain, the 1x and 3.3x gain should be more than enough for anything. High gain with my HD600 sounds like it's destroying my ears at 3 o clock. High gain at 12 o clock is usually the highest I go.
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>>66332540
*left channel cuts out when I have the volume pot at the lowest end and increases in volume as I increase it, also, there's no scatching noise with though which I heard some people say about the Magni
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>>66332283
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Is there such a thing as wireless earphones with onboard storage? Something I can jog with without having to carry a phone.
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>>66332283
at 600ohm the a100 outputs 0.6wpc
>full specs:
8 Ohms: 50 watts / channel
33 Ohms: 12 watts / channel
47 Ohms: 8.5 watts / channel
150 Ohms: 2.6 watts / channel
300 Ohms: 1.3 watts / channel
600 Ohms: 0.6 watts / channel
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>>66331145
>Anime
Hi!
Go to hell.
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I'm not sure how to concisely describe this, so it's hard for me to search and get good results for it.

I want a bluetooth mic+speaker adapter that can link with a mobile device, desktop computer, etc. However, I don't want the speaker and mic to be build in; I just want the ports.

I found this (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01FRY1GC4/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&psc=1&linkCode=sl1&tag=dand0f-20&linkId=8f0ea050f531ee6d694770d9bc9ba864), but I want something simpler (e.g. no "call" button), preferably just a device with a bluetooth sync button, an audio jack, and a mic jack.

Where can I find something like this?
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>>66331302
Custom IEM. I've been through so much shit and in the end, customs are the way to go.
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>>66332451
Looks trash.
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What headphones Make my ears feel like they're being caressed by a lady in 80 denier tights?
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>>66332887
[wax impaction intensifies]
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>>66332641
there is a switch that routes full speaker 80w amp into headphone amp directly.
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went to a hifi store to try some stax

got zapped when picked up the l700

try stax they said...
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>>66333242
Go to bed argon autist
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>read review
>come across "needs 200 hour burn-in" line
>close review
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>>66333246
i wish i had argons

someone post the receipt so i can pretend i have argons
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>>66333242
what a shame it didn't kill you
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>>66332959
how so
it's designed by the greatest audio engineer of all times
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My earbuds broke so I just bought a random pair at the 7-11 here in Japan for about $10. They're Tama ASH44K headphones. Very comfortable. Nice bass, in my opinion. Much better than my older pair. Hopefully they last longer than a year.

http://www.tamadenco.co.jp/products/itemDetail.php?item_no=924
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>>66333311
>TPA6120
yikes
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>>66333416
cool story bro
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>>66333253
K702s?
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>>66332667
Hello r/technology
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>takstar pro 82
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>>66333585
no headphones need burn in time, it's a myth like usb 2.0 jitter
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stax
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HD559 or SHP9500?
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>>66331145
Nice feet OP, good job.
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>>66333764
no shitphones
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>first time back in hpg for a couple of months
>Stax are the new HD 600
What happened?
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>>66334844
stax mafia claimed /hpg/
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>>66331145
>stinky tomoko feet
NICE
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>>66334844
nostaxfags started memeing
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>>66332887
>Custom IEM
I'm using Campfire Orion now, and trying to save money for used Andromedas, because I had a chance to try them, and liked what I heard.
Should I just skip Andromedas and go for CIEMs?
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>>66334992
nostaxers used to fox & grapes about stax what made them start false flagging
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>>66335051
why not get something good instead of memephones that rape your earholes
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So what are the most comfy earphones?
My ears always hurt after 10 minutes of using anything.
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What earphones/earbuds/IEMs do you like besides Etymotic brand ear dildoes?
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>>66331298
interested in this as well.
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>>66335309
ma900
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>>66335131
>something good
Like? I use IEMs for general commutes, Stax setup for home use and noise canceling MDR-1000X for flights,because I travel often.
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Is AES membership autist the worst buypig in all of /hpg/?

So obsessed with saving up for his next pair of shitcans that he can't even spare $30 for a research paper that his been begging people for weeks now.
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>>66335433
You're kind of a jew if you ask $30 for a paper.

I would suggest this anon takes the $50 student membership if he really is into headphones.
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>Day 16 of saving up for STAX Earspeakers

Well since I've sold my dads PS4 system he has no need for the games. I'm gonna pawn off his games, hopefully i can get at least a bit of money out of them.

STAX here i come!!!
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>>66335481
Sell his clothes fake staxfrog!
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>>66332253
Post YT video please I need to see this
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>>66331298
>Can someone who has AES membership share this new paper with us?
Piss off.
It doesn't tell you anything new about the target curve. Everything you already wanted to know about their target is either on the wiki or has been posted on innerfidelity.
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>>66335515
I'm not fake, i'm the real STAX frog.

I'm just stick of my dad spending thousands on FIFA packs when he could be funding my STAX journey like any father should
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>>66335529
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L34S4Tt1EuQ
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Remember to never trust anyone trying to shill you into Stax audiofoolery.
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>>66335582
I agree stax should be heard first hand
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>>66335586
this

everyone should get zapped by stax first
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I like stax because it helps me wake up in the morning by electrocuting me
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Which one is which?
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>>66336053
>only tested shitphones
why bother reading
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>>66333229
those are the specs with the jumpers on
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>>66336061
Why bother commenting?
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>>66336053
AKG makes expensive headphones? woah.
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>>66331158
fuck this shitty brand
gave me tinnitus in one ear
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>>66336106
>lover of shitphones, argon anon
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>>66335574
thanks
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>>66336163
you sure you weren't just listening at stupidly high volumes?
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>>66336163
>one ear
Got lucky with a warning most likely
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>Bottlehead still processing
Never going to get this shit.
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>>66336419
at this point someone competent should just buyout bottlehead
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>>66336487
I understand their developing process and how they acquire parts but I don't understand how they aren't capable of fulfilling orders once a month.
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>>66331243
>winblows 10
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how is this, no bully
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Would EQ benefit the HD600's bass? I love them but I wish I had just a hair more bass in some genres and they'd be perfect.
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My guesses:

HP1 - PM1
HP7 - LCD4
HP18 - Night Owl
HP19 - SRH1540
HP20 - HD650
HP23 - HD800S
HP25 - Fidelio X2
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>>66336847
you can bass boost them but it will end up making the bass very muddy
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>>66336827
SMSL m3 is combo and cheaper then topping. What now?
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>>66336853
do you have the full paper posted somewhere
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What's /hpg/ thoughs on the Shure SE215?
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>>66336866
I wanted to include a bunch of smsl products but it made the guide too long so I just put it as a footnote
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>>66336892
At least try to play the game.
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>>66336827
nice
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>>66336827
Fishing replies with AGD?
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I've got Moving-Tongue Tinnitus.
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I want to buy the Micca Origen G2 to use with my headphones and my speakers but I'm retarded and don't understand the speaker end of it. Do I just plug the green audio cable that currently goes into the back of my computer from the speakers, into the Micca Origen G2 to get it to work?

The little switch (if I'm understanding it right) sold me because I switch between the two often enough that doing so via the sound manager is annoying.
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>>66331145
I don't care about headphones and just wanted to say this general has the best OP images by far
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>>66336866
SMSL M3 is a great chink product, I do not understand why it's not recommended here.

https://reference-audio-analyzer.pro/en/report/amp/smsl-m3.php
https://reference-audio-analyzer.pro/en/report/dac/smsl-m3.php
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Just came to say that the beyerdynamics 770 pro 250 ohm sound like my 20 dollarydoo ones. Literally no difference. And the sound"""""""""""isolation""""""""""" is a joke.
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>>66337466
should have asked hpg first, nobody here would shill that shit
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>>66336959
Good beginner imo, a little umcomfy at times but i think the noise isolation is decent
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anyone have that reaction of tyll cringing?
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>>66337786
You mean the edition 10 review?

https://youtu.be/L34S4Tt1EuQ
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>>66337851
yeah but in like webm or gif
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>>66331145
Idol trash here. What's your setup like, Anon?
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>>66337891
m40x and fidelio x2
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>>66337786
>>66337855
>bright headphones


it was already posted here btw >>66332253
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>>66337123
yes
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>>66335433
Pretty much. There's a lot of cunts in here, but he's the worst.
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>>66336827
Add The Element as an alternative and we'll be good.
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>>66336827
Add the E10k.
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>>66336827
Magni 3 ($99) does laps around the two you listed, in value/price. It's also straight better than the O2 ($130).
Just don't add schiit dacs, because those are shit.
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>>66338562
and how is it better?
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>>66337891
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>>66338718
Much higher spec'd. As flat if not more (there's measurements now, sadly I don't have a link at hand).
Also, features, such as aux output that kicks in when headphone is unplugged, having two gain levels controlled with a switch, having the power input and switch in the rear.
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>>66338805
lol
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>>66336866
>>66337375
The amp isn't that good.
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>>66338850
Why?
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>>66336737
That's obviously his gaming pc next to it. He's not going to play fucking tuxracer.
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>>66331145
good feet good OP
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>>66338868
High output impedance for starters.
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>>66338369
I debated this, will probably add
>>66338420
sure will add
>>66338562
nah
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>>66339146
Is 0.1 Ohm OI too high for you?
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>>66339200
Oh, I thought that it was the same as the M6 and other more expensive models.
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>>66336827
Get rid of one of the audiogds, probably the meme tier r2r one
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>>66339511
What's wrong with it?
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>>66339166
>Sure will add
Cool. Far too many features along with quality to price ratio to leave it out. It's perfect as an entry level DAC/amp and can even be used in higher end setups as a DAC.
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>>66339534
It's redundant
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>>66336827
fuck off with this garbage. the corda rock never even gets spoken about here. audiogd is infuriatingly snakeoil trash worse than schiit.
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Recommend me some good earbuds under $50 that are focused more on vocals and guitars and less base.
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>>66339511
ok
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>>66339598
I put it on there because it's the cheapest amp on the inner fidelity wall of fame and an anon here mentioned it yesterday
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>>66339700
It's also not really available. Probably a bad pick.
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>>66339700
get rid of the RME too because it measures beyond the limit of human hearing just like everything else on your list
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>>66339598
>>66339722
Then provide some alternatives.
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>>66339768
no. I don't buy into your stupid snake oil purchases. why don't you prove amps make a difference sonically that is audibly detectable. in fact, you can win $10,000 doing so

http://tom-morrow-land.com/tests/ampchall/
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>>66339722
I agree that its overkill but its a solid all around product that has more or less every feature anybody could want, including hardware EQ and every output etc, there's not much else that does everything I think everybody here can agree is solid overall
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>>66339779
skepticism would do your kind good
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>>66339821
IT DOES NOTHING SOFTWARE CANNOT DO. this is /g/. get the fuck out, you are in the wrong place.
>>66339829
proof would do your kind good. tfw you buy a meme amp from a meme guide and it does literally nothing when you could have put that money into a headphone

https://www.reddit.com/r/headphones/comments/8d2h8g/with_sennheisers_hd_600_i_cant_tell_the/
https://www.reddit.com/r/headphones/comments/8n9n29/fiio_e10k_vs_magni_3_in_ab_blind_test_thats/
https://www.reddit.com/r/headphones/comments/7zuflj/whats_the_benefit_of_an_external_ampdac_for_the/

don't come in here thinking you can make some bullshit guide without any due diligence on your part and get away with it.
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>>66339779
>why don't you prove amps make a difference sonically that is audibly detectable
Schiit. It will sound worse than other amps.
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>>66339873
>Schiit. It will sound worse than other amps.
schiit measures worse than other amps and will be inaudible to the human ear. the bifrost multibit is the worst offender and is still inaudible at 10 bits
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>>66339854
>reddit
You have to go back
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>>66339883
>Inaudible to the human ear
That is false. According to all who use their amps, they "color" the sound, aka make the sound worse.
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>>66339893
oh I'm sorry for linking to reddit, you're free to do your blind testing, measurements, and prove that you can hear the difference
>>66339897
>According to all who use their amps, they "color" the sound, aka make the sound worse.
yeah? show me their testing methodology
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>>66339897
>b-but muh equalization!
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Just got my ToneKing TO400s earbuds. As far as earbuds go, they're very nice. Clear with low distortion, so vocals are pleasant. Not great in the bass department, but I expected and can deal with that. They also look cool, which is a bonus. Overall I'm very happy and think they were worth the $75. Thanks to the anon that recommended them.
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>>66339720
It's available on their site
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>>66339883
Why would one willingly buy something that's built worse and measures worse?
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>>66339912
no seriously, you have to go back
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>>66339994
I don't know, tell me why audiogd gets recommended in its place. They are even worse. THX amps will be a good alternative as well as the cavalli liquid spark
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>>66340010
I have been here much longer than you.
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>>66340011
Unfortunately, they keep getting delayed.
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>>66340042
That's not an excuse to shill audiogd to people.
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>>66340028
No.
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>>66340011
>cavalli
>good
What universe is this?
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>>66331145
wtf i love tomoko now
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>>66340094
The universe where cavalli's tube amps measure better than schiit's solid state amps. The universe where gilmore is a fraud hobbiest and cavalli has a doctorate in electrical engineering and was a professional for most of his life
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>>66340067
I'm not shilling audiogd. I've been looking forward to those amps.
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>>66340111
>I'm not shilling audiogd.
I see, I have no beef with you.
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>>66340107
Yet somehow cavalli amps ship out with cold solder joints and pathetically thin PCBs for high voltage applications. I don't see that as being very professional.
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>>66340127
>pathetically thin PCBs for high voltage applications
high voltage low amperage. arcing is not just based on high voltage, you can actually calculate it
>Yet somehow cavalli amps ship out with cold solder joints
cavalli has a response to all these criticisms that no one bothers to read, what makes you so special to be able to interpret them?
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>>66340149
What's to interpret with shit soldering? Either components are soldered properly or they are not. Cold solder joints on a multi kilobuck amp are unacceptable, regardless of whatever excuses cavalli has.
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>>66340168
>What's to interpret with shit soldering?
EC standards require the use of lead free solder. It frequently requires higher soldering temperature and cools with a duller finish. This is normal.
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>>66340168
have you actually ever read cavalli's response or do you just repeat what you hear like a moron without free thought?
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>>66340196
A cold solder joint doesn't look the same as what a well done lead-free solder joint looks like. Is it really so hard to use flux & use a higher iron temperature? Especially on an amp that costs thousands?

>>66340205
Close up images of cavalli amp boards speak for themselves.
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>>66340222
>Close up images of cavalli amp boards speak for themselves.
measurements and conformance to standards speak louder than spritzer's and gilmore's half baked assumptions and refusal to get their amps measured.

regardless, I don't really care. it's snake oil anyhow because it's beyond the limit of human hearing
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>>66340260
>I don't really care
so is it autism that you continue to post?
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>>66340260
Cold solder joints adhere to no standards.
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>>66340278
>so is it autism that you continue to post?
I'm defending cavalli from morons
>>66340289
They aren't cold solder joints and they wouldn't be able to pass regulation if they were. Fucking moron.
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>>66340299
>I'm defending
Why. No one cares?
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Where do you guys go to get lossless music? All the torrent sites are down nowadays and I'm at a loss
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>>66340305
>Why. No one cares?
it's the principle of it. is that considered autism now?
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>>66340328
Thanks google.
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What's wrong with schiit
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>>66340357
Thread reminder to never buy Schiit products.

https://www.head-case.org/forums/topic/12921-schiit-jotunheim/
https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/budget-dac-review-schiit-modi-2-99.1649/
https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/hardware-teardown-of-schiit-modi-2-usb-dac.2082/

>solder splatter
>caps on output
>Either they don't measure their DACs, don't care or don't know how to design a clean DAC.
>For me the biggest letdown with all of this is the major disservice Schiit and others are doing to the community. They are toting these frankly "shit" amps as power houses

https://www.reddit.com/r/headphones/comments/6wdcig/bad_experience_with_schiit_audio/
https://www.reddit.com/r/headphones/comments/6lnyd8/ama_request_nick_t_from_schiit_tech_support/
https://www.reddit.com/r/headphones/comments/7bwko4/schiit_refusing_to_replace_the_misconfigured/
https://www.reddit.com/r/headphones/comments/7b33wc/schiit_fulla_2_problems_about_blew_out_my_eardrums/
https://www.reddit.com/r/headphones/comments/71wtot/schiit_cs_has_left_me_between_a_rock_and_a_hard/
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>>66340357
give a second, google anon is compiling links to other people’s opinions.
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>>66340392
>peoples opinions are more valuable than facts
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Looking for an amp and dac in the 200 range. Mainly just need a new dac because I got schiited
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>>66340417
Topping D10 or D30, if you need the other inputs.
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>>66340412
I only wear headphones that are popular with anime girls.
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>>66340417
>Mainly just need a new dac because I got schiited
no you don't, it's beyond the threshold of audibility
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>>66340357
worst company in audio atm, worse than beats
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>>66340438
I should add my computer doesn't even pick up my dac anymore because they're shit
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>>66340478
I mean you fucked up by buying schiit but don't think that you can hear the difference between dacs in the first place
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Garbage thread, good job shitters
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>>66336163
>Wearing Sennheisers right now.
Am I in danger? What's wrong with them?
Pls I'm scared
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>>66340490
Yeah I know lesson learned
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Does this stuff kill the audio quality?

Have a jackless phone and don't like the adapter
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>>66340417
>got schiited
lots of people here got memed on by schiit too theres no shame in getting schiited once
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>>66340299
Not sure why you're denying there were cold solder joints when you can just look up photos and see them. Along with solder balls, and uncleaned rosin. Stax uses lead-free solder for their amps yet they don't have any of these issues.
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>>66340656
Yes. Bluetooth is shit.
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>>66340829
Oh wow, entry level garbage turns out to be garbage
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>>66340976
The cavalli amp I'm thinking of was originally sold for $5k, just saiyan.
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>>66340656
If you're going for a run it should be fine, but for a permanent home solution, it isn't sufficient.
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>>66340656
Depends. Take the ES100pill, best BT DAC/amp out there, except for maybe the shanling m0.
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>>66340829
>Not sure why you're denying there were cold solder joints when you can just look up photos and see them.
post 'em
>Along with solder balls
post 'em
>uncleaned rosin
flux is harmless
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>>66341023
I dont know how you betas are so desperate for bluetooth while at the gym/running, theres literally nothing hard to use about a cabled headphone that stops from being active
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>>66340417
Ifi nano idsd black
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>>66341041
I don't understand how people workout and sweat while wearing full sized headphones. IEMs are the way to go for moving around a bunch.
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>>66341014
Overpriced garbage, really?!
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>>66341090
just like stax amps
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>>66341034
In before "those are just dull because they're lead-free, not cold solder joints" or "so what if it has solder balls?".
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>>66341027
This is probably the least shit option for bluetooth, but your audio is still getting re-encoded before transmission. Also, it supports aptX HD, but you need to make sure your phone supports that as well, otherwise it wont get used. iPhones don't support aptX HD, so if you have one of those you'd be wasting your money on an expensive BT receiver dongle.
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some days you guys are annoying and lame, bunch of nerds arguing like right now

sometimes this general is cool tho
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>>66341125
I don't see any joints that are non-conductive, looks fine to me
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>>66341150
>bunch of nerds arguing
Isn't that what this site is for? :^)
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Stax
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>>66341241
this, but buy stax
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>>66341258
this desu
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>>66341163
I don't know what to tell you then. I don't find sub-par soldering on a $5k amp to be acceptable, but you do.
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>>66341274
>I don't find sub-par soldering on a $5k amp to be acceptable, but you do.
$5k amps are unacceptable so it's a moot point, the quality of aesthetics on the circuit board adds nothing to its sonics nor appearance.
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>>66341274
Good, now leave.
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>getting butthurt because the soldering job doesn't look pretty enough
This is head-case tier autism.
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>>66341310
reflowing doesn’t exist yet.
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>>66341293
One would expect a certain level of build quality at $5k, regardless of anything else.
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>>66341327
No, because at $5k you are paying to be ripped off.
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>>66341325
Autism
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>>66341333
When stax can put out higher quality boards at a fraction of the price, having poor soldering on something costing thousands more is unacceptable. Regardless of what you think about buying a $5k amp, the soldering is sub par.
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>>66341385
Stax sells overpriced products as well.
>the soldering is sub par.
And has no real world effects
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Why?
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>>66341398
>Stax sells overpriced products as well.
Maybe, but they actually know how to fucking solder.
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Why?
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>>66341414
>>Maybe, but they actually know how to fucking solder.
Maybe if they didn't spend so much time autistically stroking their dick to the quality of their solder which has no real world implications they could instead then out-source their boards to lower cost and have more people be able to buy their products.
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The sound of the ATH-AD500X and the HD-681 are so burned into my brain that anything with a normal amount of bass sounds dark and congested to me. What are some nicer headphones/in-ears that I should try with this sound sig in mind?
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>>66341437
lol poorfag
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>>66341448
I can afford their amps, when companies refuse to create affordable options then everyone loses.
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>>66341465
poorfags lose. And no you can’t.
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>>66341475
You fucking moron. If they lower their cost then more people buy their shit that means 1) more competition 2) more profit. More profit means better R&D if you believe in that bullshit. More R&D means better flagships and better for people who can afford that price bracket.
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>>66331243
>DT1990
>Audeze
nice taste desu

>>66331372
Best amp at that price point is probably the Objective2. You can also get it with a built in DAC.
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>>66341493
no. Poor. Fag.
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So this is what you pay for????? hmmmMmm
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>>66341518
The barrier to entry for electrostats are amps. Cheaper amps lower the barrier to entry. Head-case is actively harming the estat community. Easier entry barrier means more people buy electrostats, the market for them grows and more competition spurs. More competition means cheaper and better products.

You are straight up fucking retarded if you can't realize you are actively harming a community by defending expensive elitist products and companies.
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>>66341041
>>66341057
Some people like wireless, I would go earbuds/IEM as well.

Maybe if you're cleaning up the house it could be practical.
(I don't want the wire to get catched by everything).
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>>66341437
How much do you think skimping on the soldering is really going to save (hint: it's not much)? You'd want to skimp to save a few bucks on a high end amp, of all things?
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>>66341550
You can already get estat amps for pretty cheap m8.
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>>66341563
A considerable amount if you buy in bulk and outsource.
>You'd want to skimp to save a few bucks on a high end amp, of all things?
You reduce the cost in circuit design by saving pennies wherever you can. It adds up.
>>66341573
Not anywhere near as close as dynamics, shut the fuck up. The cheapest is the srs-252 which is impossible to find for their price due to low availability. Gee, I wonder why they are low availability.
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new thread

>>66341626
>>66341626
>>66341626
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>>66341584
https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/e279638387
https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/302765436
https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/g273322910
https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/s587377916

Took a few seconds of searching. Even figuring in how much they'll be at the end of the auction, should be in the neighborhood of 200-300. Skimping on soldering isn't going to turn a $200-$300 amp into a $100 one.
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>>66341659
Why are you linking me to auctions? We are talking MSRP.
>Skimping on soldering isn't going to turn a $200-$300 amp into a $100 one.
These are $500+ amps. Also, no shit? A lot of the markup on stax products are elitism because they peddle snake oil.
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>>66341709
>you can already get estat amps for pretty cheap
I didn't specify MSRP here. That stax just marks it up because of elitism is a baseless accusation. Feel free to prove how much stax spends on parts cost, labor cost, and prove how much lower those are compared to what they sell their amps for.
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>>66341767
>That stax just marks it up because of elitism is a baseless accusation
That's easy enough to prove with their headphones. There's nothing stax does that should add up costs between an L300 to a 009. There's little in parts that make up the difference in cost. There's little in "R&D". There's little in manufactoring method as you are stretching mylar over a frame.
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>>66340260
How often do these boutique devices get measured? I know of a couple of Headamp's portable amps, which seemed nice, and a single chart of the LL2, in which no one on Changstar, Kevin Gilmore included, can read properly.
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>>66341961
>How often do these boutique devices get measured?
they don't. I would like to see some accountability, but that will never happen.
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>>66341987
You’ll never be able to afford them anyways, why bother worrying so much?




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