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Last one hit the bump limit.

NEW INTEL CPU BUG THAT AFFECTS PRETTY MUCH ALL CRYPTOGRAPHIC APPLICATIONS:
http://www.openwall.com/lists/oss-security/2018/06/13/7

This affects FPU context switching, which now needs to be completely cleared because of state leaking!!

Intelfags on suicide watch, again.

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>>66345814
And here I thought 2017 was a bad year for intlel kek
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Apparently this was fixed a couple of years ago in Linux already
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>>66345814

POC?
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amd stocks are rising
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>>66345902
One bug was fixed, the FPU one.
There are SEVEN other bugs under embargo at the moment.
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>>66346048
>it's been at last 3 months
>experienced people can pierce exploits from a barebones presentation in 5 hours
>the OpenBSD team can find (or obtain information) about this CVEs to patch them
wew lad, I wonder how fucked are most crypto exchanges by now
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>>66345814
>be intel
>make chips with backdoors
>realize nobody is buying your 1-5% performance increase cpus
>twice the price they bought their cpu five years ago
>GREAT IDEA
>cuck the NSA and other spy agencies
>"leak" the backdoors to the public
>now they'll upgrade!
>right?
>goys?
>buy my over priced psuedo speed increased processors
>goys?!
top kek.
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>>66345979
all thanks to you frogposter
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>>66346138
what nonsense, intel never fixes anything and continues selling flawed chips. It'll soon be 2 years of this shit and they still make new chips with same vulnerabilities and nobody even sued them.
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Just how fucked is hummanity because of Intel?
Will we ever recover and get Intel-free software that doesn't give shit about their jewish tricks and actually perform good on amd?
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>>66345814
delid dis
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>>66346048
>There are SEVEN other bugs under embargo at the moment
First I've heard of this- do you have any credible sources for this rumour?
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>>66345814
>the intel hardware exploit level train has no stops
fuck yeah
gimme some more of those overpriced defective cpus (and a water chiller to cool it down)
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>>66345814
Wew, another one already? In my mind, my Pentium G4560 is gradually looking more like pic related every time more vulnerabilities are announced. I really need to upgrade it to Ryzen.
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>>66347022
from the man himself
https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-tech&m=152895192209700

and some of the autistic cocbsd fuckers continue to make fun of him.
he is doing the world a favor, now issue an apology like one of the autisic retards from the bsd conf the other day did
https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=152883510311011&w=2
or stfu
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>>66347022
The original source was a reputed German IT journal (Heise). They said there were 8 Spectre-like vulnerabilities in Intel CPUs currently under embargo.
People were not sure whether that was true. But a few days ago OpenBSD revealed that there is indeed at least one vulnerability. It's not a stretch to think that there are indeed 7 of them.
In fact, Theo predicted *TEN YEARS AGO* that there would be many vulnerabilities.

I wouldn't be surprised if there were in fact even more vulnerabilities to discover. It's likely that governments agencies, cyber-criminals, etc. are currently researching this.

It's so bad that OpenBSD is going to simply flush everything by default on Intel CPUs, and only revert the stuff when they confirm that there is no vulnerability.

This is a scandal equivalent to the emissions test cheating software in European cars. Intel has basically been cheating with performance, by doing optimizations that completely break security down (doing speculative execution past isolation boundaries).
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>>66345814
>This affects FPU context switching, which now needs to be completely cleared because of state leaking!!

Lol which is completely a software issue, Enjoy your booner cores! slow and steady wins the race!
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>>66347163
>pretending over half the shit released doesnt affect amd
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>>66346138
Yeah security researchers don't exist/don't do any work.
Every CVE you see is a result from a company internal discovery and consequently disclosure/leaks.
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>>66347314
>software issue
>lazy FPU context switching
How?
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>>66347163
Only way that water chiller will make a difference is if you pour it under the IHS.
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I've bought AMD since the 1990s.
My first CPU was an AM386.
Intel has always felt wrong.
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>>66347321
>over half
hahahaha, you are so transparent, mr sheckelstein
but please, do post a list
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>>66347321

>pretending intel
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>>66347282
>Intel has basically been cheating with performance, by doing optimizations that completely break security down (doing speculative execution past isolation boundaries).

God smite these wicked semites
AMD rise from the ashes
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>>66345814
not a problem in linux as it uses eager fpu since 2016
I'm on amd--not a shill.
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>>66347321
Biggest vulnerabilities affecting AMD CPUs are ones made up by an Intel funded Israel based cyber security firm that only offers 24hrs for a right of reply before publishing their "findings".
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>>66347208
Freebsd is full of unstable people it seems. Their main promoter and hero "Freebsd girl" is a good example of this.
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>>66347321
Theo actually confirms in his talk that AMD's architecture around cashing is vastly superior and almost goes so far as to say Intel are amateurs in comparison.
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>>66347518

It's clear that Intel has been cutting corners on well known best practices. Either this is utter incompetence lettering marketing dictate engineering, or utter malice letting spooks dictate it.
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>>66347171
Yes.
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>>66347321
Because it doesn't.
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>fell for indel meme
>spectre and meltdown reveiled
>Fuggg, but it's not that bad rrr-ight?
>now this shit happens

Never make the same mistake.

Btw what's stopping any hi tech chink company from rolling out their own cheap x86 like processors? inb4 patent laws
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>>66347835
>Btw what's stopping any hi tech chink company from rolling out their own cheap x86 like processors? inb4 patent laws

They use a better architecture
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loongson
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>>66347864
Fugg. Imagine 50$ chink package that performs on par with 400$ x86-64 bs.
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>>66347208
I wanna see that video
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>>66347835
>Btw what's stopping any hi tech chink company from rolling out their own cheap x86 like processors?
Chinks can't into high-tech manufacturing. Compare their RAM chips to South Korean for example.
They can steal and copy as much as they want, but at the end of the day they won't be able to manufacture the stuff properly.
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>>66347518
>>66347607
OY VEY
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Time to come home to the pre-botnet world, white man.
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>>66346138
The management engine is probably an intentional backdoor, but speculative execution bugs like Spectre and this FP issue are almost certainly just a result of prioritising speed and features over security concerns. It's fair to blame jewtel but it's also kind of the fault of consumers (especially the giant enterprise ones) for having that same mindset. Hopefully that's changing now that they're having to eat the costs of all these security disasters.
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>>66347518
skylake X and the derivative xeons use the same cache arch that AMD had in bulldozer.
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>>66348527
Shame the FX-9590 is the last and fastest CPU without a management engine
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>>66348586
It would be 10x as we need a processor to be if there wasn't so much bloat at every level of computing.
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>>66347835
ARM64 already exists and is supported by Win10, which can even run x86 programs through emulation.
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but has anyone actually been hacked by these spectre memes and others? i have not heard anything yet but everyone says that these are really bad things.. someone would have done it already if it was as easy as people say
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heh
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>>66347282
> Theo predicted *TEN YEARS AGO* that there would be many vulnerabilities.
Plz gib sauce. Need new copypasta.
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>>66347321
Factually incorrect. Enjoy the vulnerabilities Intel shill.
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>>66347314
>>This affects FPU context switching, which now needs to be completely cleared because of state leaking!!
>Lol which is completely a software issue, Enjoy your booner cores! slow and steady wins the race!
Why doesn't this affect AMD then hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?
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>>66347864
Do you know of any prebuilt systems available outside of China? Would love to fuck about with a mips netbook
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>>66348783
There were PoCs at the time proving it worked and was relatively simple to do, including through javascript. It's definitely not just theoretical.

https://github.com/ascendr/spectre-chrome

Those specific implementations probably won't work anymore due to various mitigations that have been introduced, but the bug is fundamentally still there and can be exposed again by a sufficiently creative approach.
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>>66347366
>>66347388
>>66347470
>>66347518
>>66347689
>>66349032
STOP BEING SO ANTI-SEMITIC
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>>66347321
> [...] other manufacturers (AMD) are not known to be affected.
http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2018/q2/189

OH NO NONONONO AHAAHHAAHAHAHAAHAH
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What's his endgame?
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I've ultrasparc t2 plus at work, how fucked am I?
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>>66349909
Crashing the fabs
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>>66346271
Intel fucked over the entire planet.
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>>66348521
Literally never ever.
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>>66345814
Is RHEL 7 vulnerable?
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>>66348996
11 years ago actually

https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=118296441702631

>These processors are buggy as hell, and some of these bugs don't just cause development/debugging problems, but will *ASSUREDLY* be exploitable from userland code.

>As I said before, hiding in this list are 20-30 bugs that cannot be worked around by operating systems, and will be potentially exploitable. I would bet a lot of money that at least 2-3 of them are.
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>>66347864
>Loonux
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>>66347321
(You)
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>>66353094
noice
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>>66353094
BASED
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>the fix Increases performance
>only affects virtual hosts
wew it's fucking nothing you guys can go back to shilling AMD and falseflagging as Intel shills in other threads now
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>>66345814
DELETE THIS ANTI-SEMITIC THREAD RIGHT NOW
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Where do I sign up for the lawsuit?
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>>66353543
Or say 3 good things about the Jewish people.
If you can't you're clearly a racist.
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>>66353669
BIG
KHAZAR
MILKERS
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>>66351311
With no yields!
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>>66353669
>they make good fuel
>they make excelent skincare products
>they make decent fabric for ilumination applications
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>>66348527
>so many claims
>no single source
Shit pic
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>>66348095
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaQpvXSa4X8&feature=youtu.be&t=19m21s
https://warosu.org/g/thread/S66327917
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>2006
2006
>2006
2006
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>>66348527
Source for 2?
By the way, 10 is bullshit
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>>66353346
>>66353836
FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKK
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>>66346048
>There are SEVEN other bugs under embargo at the moment.
>There are SEVEN other bugs
>SEVEN other bugs
>SEVEN other bugs under embargo

I can't take it anymore! AHHHHHH
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Time to pay the piper.
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>>66348095
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaQpvXSa4X8&t=1132
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>>66353669
mises, rothbard, friedman
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>>66353781
I didn't understand that. What was he even shouting about? Why was he so upset about FreeBSD being under embargo?
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>>66357369
Apparently he's under the embargo jurisdiction, though he isn't formally in the foundation staff or some shit like that.
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>>66353776
for a long-time industry follower, these are already established facts, the only ones that need citation for any of these are relative newcomers to
The Game

and yes, you just lost
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>>66345814
Gee thanks intel.
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>>66353094
fuck man
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>>66353836
>it's ok goy just compile your code using icl for better performance
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>>66359593
Oy vey
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>>66360417
>10 dollaros Starbucks gift card
Oh NONONON
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>new
NSA would like a word with you
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More like
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>>66357369
Theo called them out for being corporate whores by signing NDAs with Intel.
Some FreeBSD guy tried to pretend that the FreeBSD Foundation is distinct from the FreeBSD Project.
Theo replied "whatever, don't know/don't care about the details of that arrangement".

That's when the autist, later identified as a member of the FreeBSD coc(k) committee, sperged out.
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Holy fuck Intel sucks!
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>>66360417
Was the $10 giftcard and the coasters really the only reason these advice were supposed to be followed?
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>>66360417
everyone who knows anything about a computer, knows the core of it is the chipset, not the fucking cpu. intel shilling on dumb fags as usual
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>>66360442
more like
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intel should make recall
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>>66347282
Do you have the link to the journal, lad?
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>>66347470
And of all of those, only one or two where true and they weren't a big deal to begin.
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>>66360417
>those cheap incentives
Intel is now jewing even the bribes?
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>>66361916
They'd have to recall every product they've put out in the last decade minimum.
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>>66345814
t.paid shill
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>>66364533
OY VEY SHUT IT DOWN
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>>66345814
what is the most secure cpu at the moment?
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>>66365169
POWER9
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>>66365169
branch prediction black magic started to be added around pentium 4.
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So does this affect my 2500k or what
When are the patches coming for Linux and windows?
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>>66361108
That and it's your job to upsell items to customers, like any retail store
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>>66365213
Yes.
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J-just you wait ayymdrones. Worse exploits exist in your CPooUs, it's only a matter of time before they're exploited while we /comfy/.
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>>66346138
meanwhile, in the AMD side:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06X3W9NGG/
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113429
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>>66348586
fx a shit
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>>66345814
>security site
>no SSL
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>>66365347
That's right, also make sure to buy whiskey lake when it comes out
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>>66365445
>SSL
>security
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Reminder that this is all AMD's fault because they couldn't compete with Intel
This allowed Intel to do whatever the fuck they wanted to do. Ryzen is too late.
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>>66365371

Holy shit that's cheap!
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>>66367526
It's totally the opposite - they started doing this and got undeserved advantage because of it
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>>66367526

AMD had a fine product that couldn't hit the very high end that Intel could. But now we see that Intel got that advantage by cutting corners and selling a defective product, combine that with obvious bribery and marketing aimed at simpletons based on bogus benchmarks, and AMD didn't have a fair shot.

But now AMD is hammering them AND not cutting corners. Intel deserves death.
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How come Intel can survive 15 cpu hardware vulnerabilities?

if this would've happened to AMD, they would've been bankrupt
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>>66368109
Because they control the media, therefore they can control norman's thoughts
>OMG GO- I MEAN GUY! LOOK AT KIM K! SHE GOT A NEW HAIRCUT! NOT ON THE HEAD THOUGH HER PUBES!!!1!!!1! OOOOOOMMMMGGGGG!!!
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>>66347396
>AMD rise from the ashes
They are too busy to make shitty console CPUs. Intel won several years ago, thanks to the contracts with MS and OEMs.
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>>66353346
He also claimed it cannot be fixed with a workaround within the OS. He predicted jackshit.
http://download.intel.com/design/processor/specupdt/313279.pdf
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Is it possible that the government made Intel to create these bugs?
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>>66345814
This site rally has no affect on you unless you run vms. No gamer or Facebook mom is going amd over this. Hell I doubt any /g/ents will toss out their old Intel ThinkPad and go ryzen.
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>>66369880
Let me know when you just "fix" Spector. Intel will literally suck your cock.
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>2018
>x86_64
People just love anal penetration.
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>>66353346
That is over a decade ago and completely irrelevant to modern architectures.
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>>66369953
The butthurt is strong in this one.
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>>66360417
Bribed with literally 2 cups of coffee. This is almost as sad as the senators Comcast bought for a few grand.
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>>66365169
AMD Ryzen
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>>66365169
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>>66368109
Massive amounts of damage control and bribes. Last time this happened they released a presentation describing amd processors as, and I quote verbatim, "glued together". The entire presentation looked like a /g/ shitposting infographic
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>>66370020
>>66370167
>Not VIA
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>>66370208
Oh right, and they paid a fake israeli media company to pretend to be a security company, to release 'critical bugs' in AMD processors, which were all "With administrator access, and vendor-signed firmware, and when the planets align you can install a rootkit into the processor".
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>>66365169
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>>66345814
https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-tech&m=152910536208954&w=2
DISABLE HYPERTHREADING
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>>66370372
Can't.
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>well it's a one for the oven
>two for the soap
>three for the showers
>now gas those jews
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>>66349058
because software interacts differently with different hardware?
anon, are you slow?
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>>66370767
Nvm I just realized that it was an OpenBSD thread.

Dude your mentally ill lol.
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>>66353094
damnit has it been really that long? fuck
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>>66365371
> expert installation
> +$100
There are people who pay this much.
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>>66370767
>>66370776
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>>66356860
kys
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So you call intel weak huh?
Did you know we have BACKDOORS?
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>>66365169
Z80
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>>66365169
6502.
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>>66345814
incel finished and bankrupt
how will it even recove-
>55,11 -0,43 (0,77%)
nvm
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>>66371380
At least you don't have frontdoors
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>>66356860
based anon
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look at all the intel subhumans itt
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>>66349283
>Those specific implementations probably won't work anymore
sure they will, it won't work on your system if you upgraded everything on your personal machine recently but a very large amount of computers will remain exploitable for years. think people who insist on using windows 7 or don't even know what a BIOS is are going to instantly upgrade?
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>>66355244
funny hearing that SJW who partly wrote their "Code of conduct" scream and demand that he stops talking. Really shows how these authoritarian SJW's behave like children.
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>>66365445
why would you need ssl there, are you afraid someone monitoring you or the site will see what you read? I know there's some benefit to ssl but I personally never bother on sites that don't use any kind of POST.
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>>66370640
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>>66345814
>Be amdumtard
>Be sad that my cpus cannot even match last gen Intel clocks peed
>I know... I will post unverifiable rumors about Intel on /g/
>That will make me feel better
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Nobody who cares about security should use x86 anyway. Fuck both AMD and Intel and their 'mono'poly.
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>>66373429
That's right goy, stop worrying about security.
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>>66373429
One Intel branded otaku pin was send to you, goy.
Thanks to help us leap ahead!
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>>66373429
$ grep bugs /proc/cpuinfo
bugs: cpu_meltdown spectre_v1 spectre_v2 spec_store_bypass
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>>66373715
>>>/pol/
No wonder people cannot take Ryzen and Vega seriously
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>>66373782
Good goy
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>>66370890
oof
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>>66377341
Sure
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>>66365169
AMD A8-5545m
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>>66373429

>MHz myth
>2018
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>>66365307
So what do? Is it patchable at the OS level or am I just fucked?
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>>66379919

Disable hyperthreading.
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>>66379963
how do i do it?
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>>66378126

Hey that doesn't show Arma3 at 1024x768, unfair!
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Can we class action lawsuit Intel and get reparations?
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I'M READING THE THREAD
I BOUGHT A LENOVO P50 FOR WORK
I HAVE SENSIBLE DATA ON IT
FUCKING KIKES I'M GONNA FUCK YOU ALL UP HITLER STYLE MOTHER FUCKERS
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>>66348783
You will not know because you can not know how or what type of attack was used to steal data. The user would be incapable of knowing what happened
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>>66353094
NUKE ISRAEL
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How do they even manage to still be on the game? Their stocks only went up since late 2017, and that's when Specter and Meltdown became public. Is this boomers holding on to their stocks and not checking the news or even understanding the awful situation Intel is in right now? I want their cheap stocks for their inevitable come back in 10 years
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>>66369811
The shitty console CPUs turn into a gravy train about next year when old 22/14nm fabs become old, busted, and cheap to run on while MS and Sony still pay the same price.
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>>66379510
You wouldn't believe it is back, for both x86 and ARM.
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>>66365211
thought it was Pentium pro
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>>66365169
Anything not connected to internet ever
Or maybe a Pentium 233 MMX
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I worked at Intel for about 3 years. Never again.
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>>66379983
In BIOS.
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>>66345814
Y'all acting like processor design flaws are a new thing.
I remember seeing years ago a wiki that listed the known flaws of every CPU architecture until that point, and boy are there a LOT.
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>>66381255
Hell, some of you may remember this clusterfuck from the mid 90s:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentium_FDIV_bug
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>>66381337

We all remember FDIF and f00f. Those were purely down to teething and incompetence. With the current flaws it's clear that Intel chose to take shortcuts in the Core processor design for performance and cut QA to keep that under wraps. That was how they clawed back from being utterly dominated by AMD.
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>>66373429
>clocks peed
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AMD fags

every good performing laptop has an intel chip in it

name one good performing laptop with an AMD, I'll wait
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>>66381469
The first that is released I drop the p50
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>>66381469

>jew payola
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How the fuck does this keep happening?
>tfw 2700x
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>>66348424
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>>66351311
>>66353696
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>>66381604
>tfw 2600x
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AMD is great if you're a gamer manchild with a custom desktop build.

For the rest of us adults, we need the sort of turn-key performance on a mobile workstation that only Intel chipsets can offer. It is this reason alone that Intel will continue to dominate the market with its versatile products.
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AMD's APUs are going to eat everything x86 in 10 years.
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>>66381645
AMD is non-existent in the laptop market
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>>66381633
One branded pen was send to your house goy.
Thanks to help us leap ahead!
Remember: Buy Intel and support Israel.
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>>66381664
So you admit AMD is absent in mobile workstations? Ok thanks for playing
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>>66381732
One branded otaku-pin was send to your house goy.
Thanks to help us leap ahead!
Remember: Buy Intel and support Israel.
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>>66381732
Yes, AMD no longer pushing x86 on laptops.
They already rolling ARM64 mobile workstations.
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>>66381755
Ok so they don't have any competitive laptop models with their AMD chip? That's what I thought.
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>>66381786
there's plenty of laptops using ryzen
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>>66381633
Enjoy (((your))) huge security vulnerability, slower performance, less cores, blazing heat, high power consumption

While we wait for AMD7nm to holocaust Intel Aviv for good
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>>66381800
Name some
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>>66381807
>a-any day now
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>>66381815
i thought you were actually pretending to be retarded, guess not

https://www.amd.com/en/where-to-buy/ryzen-systems
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>>66381815
Ideapad 720s
Envy x360
Inspiron 13 7000
Next month the A series Thinkpads: A285 and A485.
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>>66381824
>7 shitty laptops
>1 decent gaming meme laptop

>>66381831
Those Thinkpads are still consumer models, not meant for serious business needs like those of the Intel Xeon Thinkpads
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>>66381860
I answered your request, nice backpedaling though
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>>66381866
You named a handful of machines that are so awful they are not even worth mention. Next time I want a computer to check my email with, I'll be sure to give you a buzz, kid.
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>>66381860
>not meant for serious business needs like those of the Intel Xeon Thinkpads
You want a P50 or P70 with Ryzen?
Lenovo just need to know that there is market for that. Isn't a big deal to let them know it.
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>>66381881
Great, I will see you again in 3 years when AMD finally catches up to Intel in 2018
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>>66381892
>Intel surpassing AMD
Yeah, bro. In your original universe. In this universe, al things point that Intel is in point of lose a important chunk of marketshare and mindshare because their inhability to make secure CPUs and move beyond 14++++++++++ nm
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>>66381910
Doesn't matter how well AMD's chips supposedly perform because nobody is using their chips in their high-end products. AMD possesses next to zero market share.
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>>66381923
Yeah. That's why the Market share of AMD is higher than expected and Brian To-fuck-shit-up is literally preparing schemes to avoid AMD to go upwards 20% server marketshare, right?
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>>66381923

>use intel and eat mcdonalds
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>>66381879
You keep saying awful and shitty without giving a reason. Get fucked by a shit poster from pol who hates computers but can even see you're a fucking retarded American mutt.
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Can anyone explain how this bug works and what it might allow to be done?
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I currently still have my i7-860, but will be going to Zen2 Ryzen when it comes out, so I'm not an Intel shill.

But could AMD's relative lack of vulnerabilities be something similar to the old thing of "Macs have no viruses" in that it's not popular enough to research into as Intel
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>>66347282
17 bravo here.
Yup.
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>>66353346
https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=118296441702631
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>>66353721
kek
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https://github.com/torvalds/linux/commit/58122bf1d856a4ea9581d62a07c557d997d46a19

>It seems that, on any remotely recent hardware, eagerfpu is a win:
glibc uses SSE2, so laziness is probably overoptimistic, and, in any
case, manipulating TS is far slower that saving and restoring the
full state. (Stores to CR0.TS are serializing and are poorly
optimized.)

So the impact should not be a majon one even when fixed on os-level
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>>66348521
Comfy/10
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>>66384482
Damage control is already in full swing I see
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>>66384570
shut up goy
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>>66380192
The power of jewish global elite
Not memeing
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>>66382148
If you only knew how bad things really are
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>>66348783
How would you detect such an attack?
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>>66389216
you really cant unless it phones home or something like that
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>>66370372
Why?
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>>66349909
>>66351311
>>66353696
Releasing CPU with security flaws was part of his plan all along?
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>>66381662
With the chinks leading the way they will get at the very least 50% of it
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this vulnerability is interesting, but it's not that bad compared to meltdown. really, just goes to show that the mainframe model isn't very practical in a modern environment and that containerization is the way forward...assuming the containers themselves are secure.
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>>66353094
Jesus Christ how can a man be so based?
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>>66380906
That's a big image
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>>66391526
He's a big man
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>>66390133

CPU flaws invalidate all software compartmentalization measures. Half the problem is everyone's so gay for performance that they'll sacrifice security. For instance, if protection rings were available to userspace then say a master browser process could have a "hypervisor" role to its sub-processes, with hardware enforced segregation between children. But then there would be context switches affecting benchmarks.
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Would you wear it Intel fanboys
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>>66392675
Id wear a delid this shirt
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I tried to read but I don't understand what is going on with Intel's vulnerability?

Can someone enlighten me on this issue? Explain it like i am 8
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>>66392783
Disappear
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>>66370167
lel, I was the laughing stock a few years ago with my underpowered 8320 but now look who's laughing. Looks like there's a silver lining to construction core
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>>66392886
8350 is the best from a security and performance standpoint, 8320 is still g. A shame its a space heater though. Its hilarious that i stopped sweating while gaming when i switched from a 8350 to a 1700
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That should be expected since Israelis are involved in designing CPU's for Intel...

Now a Jew in Tel Aviv knows your banking details and he also has a list of all the porn you have fapped to
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>>66348527
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>>66378126

Who gives a shit about BF1?
>muh every american soldier in ww1 was literally black jesus
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>>66389908
If I take your lid off, will your die die?
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>>66380192
Because most stock holders are literal braindead boomers, no memes here. And they keep buying Intel even after they have been fucked in the ass several times now.
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>>66353669
They hate arabs
If arabs invade europe, jews are genocided too
It's better for the jews to work with europeans instead of against them
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>>66365169
Probably old stuff before nsa existed
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INTRODUCING THE NEW LINE OF INTEL BRAND JEANS.

DON'T WORRY, THE HOLES (tm) ARE INTENTIONAL
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>>66345814
>Intel literally put speed-holes in their architecture.

We needs more pics of this.
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>>66394417
>jews trying to preserve cultural and ethnic uniformity
Good one, but not. They hate uniform people that they are not themselves.
Ironically, as you say, they are setting their own trap.
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>>66394365
It would be extremely cooler
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>>66395647
You are a pretty insecure processor.
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>>66395553
>>>/pol/
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as a smelly neet who has 0 income no bank account no prospects and only uses his shintel machine to game and shitpost, why should i give a shit about any of these flaws?
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>>66395812
>t. kike
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>>66395812
This whole site is /pol/ get over it.
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>>66395843
Nope, just trying to kep this board from turning into another /b/.
>>66395848
Only if we let it.
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>>66353669
They are an ambitious, hard-working people with a lot of ethnic pride
They are very good at promoting their interests
They are very good at convincing people to sacrifice their own interests
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>>66395882
Daily reminder: Only the jews hate the joos meme.
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>>66395882
You don’t have a choice Schlomo.
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>>66395766
For your heatsink
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>>66389908
>>66394365
>>66395647
>>66395766
epic!!!
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>>66396277
4u
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AMD shills working overtime I see
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>>66395821
have fun when your Bank's infrastructure gets compromised with one of the 14 hardware security vulnerabilities and your money gets seized by malicious hackers
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>>66395553
>Ironically, as you say, they are setting their own trap
Not really, they can always move to Israel when things get bad in Europe
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>>66395345
>"speed-holes in their architecture."
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>>66345814
>ITT: AMD SHILLS IN OVERTIME
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>>66346118
There were teports of hacks and chinese shenanigans earlier on. Why do you think prices are fluctuating so much in the middle of the year? Go check the news.
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owo
whats this?
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>>66345814
Does Intel ever have at least one security specialist ?
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>>66380264
Another reason for AMD to ignore the desktop shitstorm.
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>>66351350
At this point we'll start getting software where almost every line of code will be encapsulated with checks for vendor id and security holes workarounds. And it will hit amd even more because of jewish trickery.
I wish everyone just abandoned intel and made non-paranoid software.
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>>66347835
i heard there's a company making a contract with AMD to produce their own x86 cpus
also loongson has some x86 compat
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>>66397774
Is this loss
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>>66347282
>This is a scandal equivalent to the emissions test cheating software in European cars.
No it isn't. Only soibois would have thought that driving a car is green, while every normalfag thinks that his computing should be secure.
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so what can poorfags who can't afford a Zen actually do about this?
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My sides
https://www.amd.com/en/campaigns/threadripper-exchange
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>>66400782
fucking spicy
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>>66396728
>>66397383
>>66400701
Shintelkikes have literally zero shame.

>>66400595
>poorfags can't afford zen
Are you autistic? Or just pretending?
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>>66401029
SHUUUUTTTT UPPPPPPPPPP
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>>66400782
KEK
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I wonder how much single core performance those Intel processors will lose when they turn the internal security back on.
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>>66360442
this one is good
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>>66401610
mine won't lose any because im on win7 and do everything that has a greater than 0% chance to compromise my system on a vm these days
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>>66401338
Cry and project moar shintelkike.
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>>66401029
i can't afford to get a new build, regardless of the brand
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>>66402214
BAD GOY
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>>66378126
what this shows is that you don't need any of those new overpriced CPUs to play these games at 60+fps and you'll be fine with any CPU made the last few years. Nice to know.
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>>66402027
Thanks to spectre someone can just read the data stored in RAM sweaty, no VM is going to save you
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>>66380192
>awful situation Intel is in right now?
They are not and here's why: Check your local retailer and count the number of AMD based laptops for sale. There's ONE laptop based on 2500U at the biggest online store in this country. It's a HP machine. And that's it, that's all AMD has managed to put out there in terms of AMD based laptop APUs. This is why Intel didn't even mention OEMs at Comptex, instead they showed off a 28 core 5 Ghz "product" chilled by a 1600W "cooler". AMD made a huge deal about their partners. All those Ryzen desktop CPUs they've sold were sold to people buying a motherboard+cpu+ram combination and building the system themselves, this is the vast majority of their CPU sales.

Intel's got contracts and deals that pretty much secures a monopoly in the pre-built and laptop segments. They can make a garbage pile of shit CPU and still get every single laptop and pre-built OEM to push only that chip. think nvidia gpp only worse and on-going for 20+ years.

look at what is actually available in retail stores before saying intel's in a bad spot. they ain't.
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>>66381612
Thanks.
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>>66402304
Nothing to do then. Except switching to 7nm when the time comes.
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>>66402663
How exactly are they going to compete then? Ringbus is fucking dead.
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>>66402560
im on a dual-socket board and have dedicated ram for the vm since it only runs on the second chip
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>>66402743
The second chip is still vulnerable to spectre :-)
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>>66402763
good thing there's nothing important in those sticks then
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>>66402771
The first chip is also vulnerable :-)
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>>66402663
>laptops in the supermarket

cool but that's one subsection of the market. they're losing marketshare basically everywhere else, often drastically as they are among gamers/pc builders/enthusiasts etc. from 2019 amd will have the undisputed technology lead. intel are paranoid about their server monopoly in particular and rightfully so. yeah they'll 'be fine' in the long run, it's intel after all. but expect their revenue to contract until 2021 at the very earliest and their shares to slide at least until then. if you invest in intel now you're completely braindead desu.
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>>66403116
>drastically as they are among gamers/pc builders/enthusiasts
that was my point, those who are buying a motherboard and cpu and building themselves have been going for AMD CPUs and boards since Ryzen came out. AMD even thanked this market segment and mentioned this at Computex because, as their financial reports show, it's the majority of their sales.

You can't buy your own laptop shell/chassis and motherboard and CPU and build your own, can you? Intel's got OEMs by the balls, who knows what agreements are in place but it's not that hard to guess by looking at what's available. My guess is something like rebates if 80+% of systems sold are Intel-based. The various fines Intel's got over the years is a good indicator of what they are much likely still doing.
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So what do these "vulnerabilities" actually affect when you only use your cpu for gaming/general use?
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>>66404265
Easier access to sensitive data
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>>66404265

>security doesn't matter




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