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Schiity SBAFfy edition

How to request purchase advice: https://pastebin.com/fYZLW7Ub

For sub-$50 headphones and IEMs, check out the infographic in >>>/g/csg

/g/ wiki headphone FAQ: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Headphones

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the absolute state of superbestincelfriends
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>>68008089
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Is Yggy worth the price?
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tfw u get ur hd600s and now u have to get some speakers to go along with it
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>>68008096
hi incel
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>>68008096
depends on what you value, anon.
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>>68008096
buy or somone die
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Fuck dudes, I was algoods with my asgard 2 not but 5 minutes ago, but since entering this thread the only sound coming out of my headphones sounds like a muffled fart. What do I do?
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>>68008209
BUY SCHIIT
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Idol trash here.
What's your setup like, Anon?
>>68008076
Good schiit.
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>>68008594
Nice setup anon.
Btw, how is tin t2 compared to hd 600 or er4/xr
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I unironically just replaced my Magni 2 with a massdrop O2 and holy shit what a difference.
There's actually a soundstage now.
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>>68008670
02 sdac/amp is pretty stellar i must say.
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Would this be a good buy for a pair of headphones + modmic?
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>>68008668
I wish I tried these so that I could tell you.
The HD600 is awesome in any event, one of my best purchases ever.
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>>68008767
How's that to tin t2?
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I know I should probably lurk /g/ more, but I'm curious... What advantage does the whole separate amp/expensive headphones thing do for you that makes it so much better than a usb headset, or even a 3.5mm jack set of studio monitors? Headphones offer more situational awareness for me in first person shooter games, where I really need to hear, but normally I just use desktop speakers.

is it all a placebo? is it a meme? I'm not trolling, I'm genuinely curious. If there are serious improvements that I could be experiencing, I'd start looking into the whole thing.
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>>68008822
yes there's serious improvement it's a set of $100+ products working in tandem
now get out quick if you don't have $200 to burn
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>>68008822
Your question is kind of worded poorly, if you're asking if a pair of $200+ headphones will objectively sound better than a $10 USB headset then your answer is yes. DAC/Amp combos exist to reduce noise in the signal chain which results in clearer audio quality, but in some cases they really aren't necessary.

The only reason to invest a nice headphone setup is for actually listening to shit and not just giving you an edge in overwatch or whatever, so if you do that with speakers then no reason to stick around here.
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>>68008889
so it's more that the higher priced ones use different (higher quality) components that require more power to 'drive'. you say "noise in the signal chain" but there's not much between a 3.5" stereo jack and a sound card, is there?

also i don't play overwatch, and the last game i really appreciated headphones was counterstrike 1.5 like a decade ago.

I have some sennheiser monitors that just have the small jack. what makes something like the 650 better? or the massdrop version, if that's the better of the two? better audio clarity for music? that's highly dependent on the files you're playing. movies? I know I word things poorly, because I'm adhd and tend to ramble, so i'm sorry but I hope this helps clarify my question
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How fat is Z Reviews?
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>>68008980
THICCCC
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the best 50$ headphones are hyper x cloud cores on sale they are made by beyerdynamic that's why they say "assembled in china" not "made in china" they use literal parts from beyer german factory plastic molding machines and prob a old beyer speaker too.
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>>68009418
oh wait they have ISK headphones that are the same as clouds on the CSG for 40-50$ if they don't come with mic that's shit but they are same thing just get them instead to avoid Ram cartel branding.
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>>68008780
they arent the same kind of product at all. T2 will sound congested next to an open back headphone.
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After quite a few years of constant use my audio interface is acting a bit weird: some times it will stop sending any signal and only goes back to working if i turn it off and back on. If there's any audio going on during this, say fb2k playing something, it will freeze and turning off/on wont work untill a also close whatever program was playing audio. Last night it happened while playing online games, had to close the game and turn the interface off/on more than once, after a while i gave up, turned it off and just went straight from the PC untill the gaming session was over.
Anyone knows what is going on? I think it might be a faulty usb cable losing/regaining connection, but i don't even touch the damn thing, don't know why it would do it. Any more ideas? The drivers are up to date.
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Haven't been around for awhile, why is schiit shit now? No meme please.
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>>68009494
Because memes are easier then actually competing.
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>>68009494
People gotta have their hate bandwagon so that they can share a common enemy. At least SBAF is brave enough to resist all the Schiit hatewagoning.
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>>68008089
plankton
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>>68009583
>>68009601
Please explain in English and be more technical, I'm dumb.
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> <= 100$
>USA
>Iphone 5s
>Earbuds
>N/A but would like something without the rubber bits
>comparable to Earpods
>comparable to earpods
>Earpods

Whenever I put on pair of earphones that aren't earpods they always sound worse but I'm so fucking tired of replacing them every 6 months beucase one of the speakers in them goes out or breaks. The sound in the entire left earphone in my current pair just went out this morning
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>>68008076
I have a pair of DT 880 250 Ohms using a Fiio E10K for now. What should I upgrade to? Is Schiit Audio a meme?
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>>68009656
Problably not necessary, but the o2 should be more than enough for pretty much any dynamic headphones.
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>>68009656
Micca origen. 250ohm beyers need more power than most people realize. Haven't seen a USB powered device that is capable of driving them yet. Amp should be able to do 25mw @ 250ohm
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>>68010036
buying headphones that high end to use beside a computer is retarded and also open headphones the noise of your computer or laptop will cover all the fine improvments of the sound

closed 50-100$ headphones at 60om is all you need for PC use.
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The 58X's are the best headphones in the world.
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>>68010036
Please explain, i too have a DT880 and it can get loud to the point of hurting both straight from the computer and from the cellphone.
>>68010406
How freaking loud is you computer? Also, DT880 is hardly mid-fi.
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>>68010036
Micca origen is quite terrible though.
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>>68008978
They make music sound more good. Go to a store and compare some good headphones with your crappy gaming ones, you should be able to hear a difference.
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>>68009601
>resisting objective measurements
>shilling for crappy products
>brave
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Been a retard and using my hd650 with no amp for 2 years since my amp / dac broke. Realized because it has no amps i cant hear footsteps ad well in games like CS.

Is the schiit stack worth it? Magni and modi.
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Just ordered HD800s and HDV820. The wait is killing me
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>>68009644
>i want shit
sorry m8 but if you dont want in ear earphones you are getting shit.
The best earbuds i know are the headroom MS16. It doesnt get better.
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what are you currently listening to /hpg/?
https://youtu.be/QIR36c58a_4
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>>68010966
I make $1400 a week, and all i have is a
HD 650 ( buying 660 tomorrow) and a schitt stack (just bought).

What sort of pay do you get to spend such money? Maybe i am a stingy person, but god fucking damn...
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>>68010966
I like senns but aren't there better options at 1000 bucks?
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So I decided to be a cuck and I'm about to buy a phone without a headphone jack. What are my options for listening to music wirelessly? My budget is 100 eurobucks. Phone is an android if that matters.
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>>68011411
you don't wanna know how long I have been saving for this.
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Just spent $700 on CIEMs am I going to coom the moment I hear music from them?
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>>68011425
I'm curious.. how long? Because that's like 5k+ worth in australian... you are a crazy fucker.
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>>68011362
https://music.businesscasual.biz/album/intuit-may
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>>68008670
Fed with what DAC?
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>>68009418
What about HyperX Cloud 2? I've always thought they sounded pretty damn good.
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My Fiio E7 has had a dead screen for a few years, pretty sure the battery is swelled and the power button doesn't always work so I'm looking for a new dac/amp
don't need anymore power than what the E7 provided but I would like optical in and usb in with a toggle switch between them
What are my options for buying in Australia?
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>>68011415
I use Tin Audio T2 + FiiO RC-BT

It's got great battery life and sound. Here in the US it's about 94 dollars. Not sure how taxes and such affect you in the EU
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>>68011499
Little over a year. That meant quit eating fast food and stop going to out drink. Also stopped smoking
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What exatly is this "ISK HF2010"?

Cheap on AliExpress: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Original-ISK-HF2010-Semi-open-Monitor-Headphones-HiFi-Stereo-Earphone-Studio-Recording-Audio-Headset-Noise-Canceling/32808322217.html?spm=2114.search0104.3.1.d2ed6985uZ1RV8&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_2_10065_10130_10068_318_10547_319_5727315_10548_10696_10084_10083_10618_452_10139_10307_532_5727215_204_10059_10884_10887_100031_320_10103,searchweb201603_60,ppcSwitch_0&algo_expid=85a79c69-f09d-476d-ad00-7a49c7348606-0&algo_pvid=85a79c69-f09d-476d-ad00-7a49c7348606&priceBeautifyAB=0
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>>68011752
Found some more info if anyone is interested, apparnetly similar to Beyerdynamic: https://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/4006/takstar-hi-2050-now-isk-hf2010-headphones/p1
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>>68011752
Lol why are the chinks copying shitphones?
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>>68011807
Someone said:

"These phones are the same of Arcano SHP80.

The SHP80 and SHP300 are the best selling phones here in my country Brazil.

SHP80 is similar to: ISK HF2010/ Takstar HD2050

SHP300 is similar to: ISK HP980/ ISK HD9999"
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>>68011448
At the very least you won't be impacting as much earwax, it's much better that the seal is not solely focused in the ear canal. CIEMs spreads out the seal along the ear's concha cybum/cavum and don't have to be inserted as deeply in the canal.
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>>68008822
>What advantage does the whole separate amp/expensive headphones thing do for you that makes it so much better than a usb headset
None has to exist. There are enough incompetent products that fit the description. The headphone and the general audio market is overcrowded with poorly performing products.
The acoustic goal of headphones is to be tuned with a flat sensitivity over the entire audible frequency range, plus or minus some factor of taste. The addition of other components, non-linear distortion, should be minimized. This is normally of secondary importance for headphones.
The electronics delivering the signal should provide enough voltage to play loudly enough, with as little noise and interference as possible. Non-linearity should be minimized, but this is suggested by having enough voltage.

Headphone sensitivity is the most important quality. If the relative sensitivity is imbalanced, such as too much low or high end, this can be compensated by using an equalizer.

>that require more power to 'drive'
Maximum sensitivity to be usable with low-voltage consumer electronics is not the central priority for "audiophile" headphones.. A headphone's motor is usually most efficient when it is designed to be non-linear, not desirable for quality, though there are other factors.
>what makes something like the 650 better? or the massdrop version
The HD 650/6XX is a simply constructed headphone that is easy to service. The response is fairly even over a wide frequency range, though it could stand to be improved a bit in the bass region. The high impedance means that even though its efficiency is average, the sensitivity is below average. A headphone amplifier may be useful to provide more voltage to the headphone.
>highly dependent on the files you're playing. movies
Yes, but distinguish
-Container, such as digital artifacts from lossy compression
-Production, how the track was recorded, mixed, and so on
The better headphone makes the most tracks work well.
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Help a pleb out /hpg/

>Budget
100 eurodollaridoos
>Location
EU
>Source
My phone, need these just for gym and running so being steady and easy to wash is the main factor
>Type of headphone
IEMs
>Comfort level
I'd rather they don't get too annoying after running for a while
>Sound signature
Bass boosted
>Past headphones
I use ATH m50x at home and basic bitch earbuds outside.
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>>68010627
I don't think I have any stores nearby that stock this sort of stuff. Deep in flyover country, as they call it.

>>68012126
thank you for the generous reply, pal. I'm going to follow up on a few points of your post, mostly to confirm I understand what you're saying.

>none has to exist
i guess for me, there needs to be a reason to do something, other than just as a hobby or for the sake of it. if some product or way of doing something has an advantage over another, that would be a good reason to do it that way, to me.

>flat sensitivity
so it's possible the headphones and headset i have emphasize some part of the audio range, bass, treble, midrange, thus distorting what i hear? i remember reading about this, I think, when I was trying to research this a while back. I believe the "beats" headphones emphasized the bass, maybe. something like that, anyway

>A headphone's motor is usually most efficient when it is designed to be non-linear, not desirable for quality
so the reason the headset/phones i have work with such low power is because they're made to (obviously) but they do this by using parts that 'flavor' the sound either in order to maintain a, or as a consequence of being low cost.

>The high impedance means that even though its efficiency is average, the sensitivity is below average
so a lower resistance is desirable? I've had problems wrapping my head around audio, ohms, watts and all that stuff since i dabbled in amps/subs back in high school (late 90's) and i'm still no better for knowledge.

anyway thank you for your reply. I think I'm learning why folks do this.
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>Budget
$4000 Mexican Pesos ($200 Freedom bucks)

>Location
Mexico, can import stuff from aliexpress or buy from Amazon. Used market is dead af where I live.

>Source
Walnut V2S

>Type of headphone
Full size headphones

>Open or closed
Open

>Comfort level
Very comfy

>Sound signature
V-shaped or mid centric because I've never tried those

>Past headphones
Bosshifi B8, Superlux HD668B, HiFiMAN HE-400i

Or if you think I should upgrade my dac/amp instead, a reccomendation in the $200 range would also be very helpful.
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>>68010681
Overpriced garbage with unnecessary amounts of power
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>>68012754
DT990 for V-shaped open. Buy the 600 ohm version.

If you want to ugprade dac/amp too, you could try Massdrop O2/SDAC for $150.
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OHNONONONONONNONONO
AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
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>>68012754
>>68012818
Wait, I see now you had HD668B. Apparently frequency response matches DT990 closely, so maybe not those, and you have tried v-shaped.
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>>68012857
all mid bass and no sub bass and treble rape. this should sound like shit
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>>68012850
In other words, they're crap.
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>>68012888
Yea idk, a lot of people like HD668B. I remember reading a review on innerfidelity, he said "it was like listening to good headphones through razor blades"
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>>68012850
How did that get past testing? The mid-range is all over the place
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>>68012850
HD650/6XX is much better.
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>>68012643
Headphones are not meant to exercise with. You're supposed to sit in a comfy chair and lean back with them. Earbuds is all you need.
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>>68012913
all mid bass mud and ear piercing treble, and upper mids are nowhere to be found
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>>68012818
I'm always very fucking hyped when I see Massdrop prices, they don't ship to Mexico anymore because niggers steal the packages. I've been looking at the Topping D30/A30 stack from Aliexpress for $200 or maybe the FiiO K5 but I don't think that it can power 600ohm cans.

>>68012857
I was damn sure the HD668B were just bright, not v-shaped. I'll just buy the DT990 and something to power them. Thanks for everything, anon!
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>>68012943
if you have hearing damage, you will love the dt990
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>>68012959
Maybe I'll like them, maybe I won't. Money is temporary and should be spent on things you enjoy, even if I don't like them I'll gain knowledge from it.
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>>68012943
I have the 668B's and they're not terrible for the price i suppose. But i wouldn't go for the 990. Better save a little and go for the hd600.
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>>68012943
You could power the 600 ohm DT990s. Maybe you should read some reviews on them before pulling the trigger though, not everyone likes them. They have strong bass and strong treble.
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>>68012943
>>68012992
This explains the differences between the Beyerdynamic line.
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>>68012991
>Better save a little and go for the hd600
I was so close from buying HD600s instead of the HiFiMAN HE-400i a few weeks ago until I learned that the HE-400i are dirt cheap where I live so I bought that instead. People on Head-fi say they have a very close sound signature, is it worth buying them even if I have something that sounds close to them?
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>>68012931
I thought that falls under IEMs when I specified that.
Yeah I'm obviously looking for earbuds, thought this general covers that as well.
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>>68013036
Good buy i suppose i dont know the he-400i's, the hd 600's are 60 euro's cheaper than the hifiman's where i live. Crazy.
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>>68013036
it does have similar frequency response besides to hug hump from 7k-10k so they would not sound as smooth and maybe a little harsher
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>>68013093
Yeah, price differences are pretty wild between countries. Bought the HE-400i for $180, the HD600 were $330
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>>68013096
Would you reccomend the Fidelios X1 or X2 over the DT990? They are the same price where I live, both are open and 'fun sounding'.
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>>68013113
They cost 400 dollars where i live o.o
Hd 600's 350.

Just looked up a few reviews. Seems the soundstage and overall sound quality is better on the 400i's. You must've striken a pretty good deal.
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>>68013163
How much is the k712?
The k712 is a bigger leap than both but it still won't be a huge leap over the 400i. Just stick with it. Maybe try to eq it by lower 9khz by 3 or 4db with a Q of 1.8 or 2.0 with peace equalizer.
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>>68013239
>How much is the k712?
I can get them for $420
>Just stick with it
Maybe you're right, I'll just get a better amp and dac instead. Waiting for the christmas bonus and dropping it all on some really nice headphones is also an option. I'll also try those EQ options, thank you for everything.
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best affordable dac/amp combo or separate (under $350)?

Modi 2 U + Asgard 2?
Grace Design M9XX?

Headphone: HD 800
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>>68013373
Modi3+Magni3 for ~$200.
You'll have to get an RCA cable and a USB to micro USB cable too if you don't already have those.
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>>68013373
topping d10 + monoprice liquid spark
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>>68013373
NFB-11.28
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiNdTUxGYCo
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I had a magni/modi and then a cheapo pyle amp off amazon for my speakers

it's a pyle of schiit lol
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>>68013373
I vote Massdrop O2 Amp + Topping D10 DAC. Or hell, for $350 you can get Massdrop O2 Amp + Topping D50 DAC.
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>>68013522
kys muke
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>>68013373
>>68013584
Forgot to mention combo dac/amp: Massdrop O2/SDAC is fantastic for $150.
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>>68013593
I'm not him.
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>>68013522
>>68013613
Audio-GD measures bad. Avoid imo. It's certainly not worth the hassle purchasing from them.
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>>68009644
I use mee m6 generation 2s. $50 and pretty solid sound quality. Doesn't quite knock my socks off but it's definitely good enough for me when I use it with a portable DAC waiting at the library between classes.
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>>68013613
doesn't matter to me desu you're just another snake oil peddler
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My DT770 Pro are 80 Ohms and I am using an an Xonar DGX to drive them. The Xonar's software lets you choose how much power to deliver with pic related. I always used "Exciter Mode" keeping my volume at 6/100 on Windows but now I'm wondering: would it be better to use a lower power setting and increase the volume? Or it's the same?
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What are the comfiest high grade headphones that aren't like $1000?
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Windows says it failed to install device drivers when I plug in my schiit DAC. Could it just be the USB cable?
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>>68013641
>>68013656
I own one, and it's very good. I highly recommend it.
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>>68013761
You couldn't pass a blind test with a motherboard out. faggot
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>>68013664
I'd use lower power and increase the volume. I've heard if windows isn't 100/100 volume you don't get full 16bit resolution or something like that. Whether you can hear the difference or not, 6/100 is extremely low. FWIW I don't usually have Windows volume maxed.
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>>68012667
>there needs to be a reason to do something
Sometimes there's a dogmatic attitude, or maybe they wanted to do something peculiar. There are headphones that try to sound like crystal radios, and they sound about good as you might expect.
Engineering is about balancing compromises in the best way you know how, but too many headphone vendors lack knowledge as to how to tune something acoustically, never mind to a target other people would want to listen to.
>emphasize some part
These are linear distortions. Equalization will clean this up so that the end result is flat, but in my experience, most people do not put in the effort to refine their EQ profile. It is a lot easier if your headphones don't vary too far from what you wanted in the first place.
Not all of the Beats emphasize bass so strongly. The original Beats Studio had a narrow cut in the midrange, but not too much bass boost.
>power/efficiency/sensitivity
This can be confusing.
Amplifiers work on the basis of output voltage or current, not power. There aren't many heat-related concerns with headphones, unlike loudspeakers, and power varies with frequency, so sticking to voltage is usually more convenient.
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>>68012667
>>68013860
>lower resistance is desirable
The headphone motor is not only an electrical-mechanical transducer but is a transformer, an analog of a lever.
Voltage is like force, and current can be related to the displacement of the lever(charge). By applying a small force (voltage) over a long distance(charge), we can do more work effectively. Sometimes the situation is reversed, where we can apply a lot of force, but not move very far. In this case, it is more useful to reverse the lever.

If the motor has the same overall shape, but a different resistance, there is no cheating thermodynamics by lowering resistance. We use more power to get more sound. But, if our voltage is limited by a battery, we can output more current to make up for that. The resistance has to selected to optimize the current and voltage outputs of ordinary devices.
High-impedance headphones represent the other side. Amplifiers are most efficient and effective with high-impedance loads as it gets closer to an ideal voltage source scenario, and a desktop amp doesn't have major voltage constraints to worry about. Some amplifiers may not have so much current supply, for one reason or another, so a high-impedance headphone is more optimal here.
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>>68013774
Okay?
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>>68013774
Even volume matched I can.
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>>68013913
>Even volume matched I can.
sighted testing causes bias and placebo you retardo
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>>68013931
I did a blind test before.
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>>68013951
how'd you do that anon?
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>>68013962
Had someone else plug them in.
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>>68013972
you giving me no specifics leads me to believe you are full of shit.
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>>68014006
Oh believe me, it's true. My PCI sound card is an old Soundblaster Live! 24 bit. It sounds a lot worse than anything USB I've tried.
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>>68011752
>>68011774
they are hyper x clouds with out the mic. exact same headset. and yes they are made with beyerdynamic actual parts beyer loaned out their designs after financial cyrsis in 2008.

getting cloud cores is prob better thou they have removable mic and only cost 30$ extra. which is like the price of the mic on ebay.
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>>68014079
The motherboard part was me being facetious. If you actually used a mobo out like that with high impedance you would have a change in FR which could result in a false positive for a blind test. Between two amps or dacs with a flat FR/low OI and sufficient drive you won't be able to tell the difference.
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>>68014103
>Between two amps or dacs with a flat FR/low OI and sufficient drive you won't be able to tell the difference.
"Two equally good things are good"
No shit.
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>>68014103
>Between two amps or dacs with a flat FR/low OI and sufficient drive you won't be able to tell the difference.

Well yes, that I believe to be true.
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>>68011648
cloud2s and cloud cores are the same thing. and are actually all the same as cloud 1s only difference is cable has 2jacks on cloud1s one for mic one for headphones while cloud2s/core have 1combine L/R/Mic jack.


you can also get blue playstation branded cloud2s now and you get dif colors with all of them.


silver/silvergunmetal(maybe slightly darker silver?)/red/pink(and white)/blue(playstation)
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>>68014133
and then yer cloud cores are black.

I found a set of cloud2 gunmetal with a broken headphone jack for 10usd. they are a super popular gaming headset so prob easy to find second hand and in goodwill etc.
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>>68014131
>>68014122
So stop recommending NFBs to randoms you fucking niggers. It is neither good nor cost effective.
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>>68014151
It wasn't me... I said Audio-GD measures bad and to avoid it...
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>>68014161
Well then instead of arguing with me call the other anon who recommended the NFB a nigger
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>>68012959
>memes
>muh treble
used them for years and are still the best phones i've heard
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Shure SE215

Yay/Nay?

I'll be listening to music with these
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>>68014151
I don't personally recommend anything else they make, but the NFB-11.28 is both good and cost-effective.
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>>68014239
They sound great, cables are cheap shit that keep breaking.
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>>68014202
I've always wanted the DT990, just thought it looked badass and super comfy. Now that I have an amp, and am not super happy with the HD6XX veil, I might get a 600ohm pair soon if I can find a good CAD price.
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>tfw the shp9500s are selling for over $200 now that are discontinued
I'm glad got them at $50
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which headphones are these?
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>>68014103
It's only a problem if the headphone doesn't like change in output impedance like hd558
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>>68014709
Best price now is on AliExpress for $~87 USD.

Simply phenomenal headphones, and not just for the price. I think I like the sound better than HD6XX and my K702.
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>>68014239
Gr07 blows them away and doesn't have a shitty mmcx connector
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>>68014694
Or you know, add a little treble with eq? Add ~2db at 8 kHz with a Q of 2 or more that you desire and/or add around 3db at 16khz with a Q of 1.4 or 1.8
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>>68014889
Doesn't sound much better.
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>>68015034
The fuck are you even listening to?
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>>68013163
I wouldn't rank one over the other, only if one falls within your preference best. The 990 has a treble peak that people do not always take to. The response is otherwise fairly smooth, with some midbass lift.
X1 is probably more likely to be pleasing, more "Harman" tuned. The pads are fixed to the headphone, not that I know what aftermarket pads fit the X2.

>>68014694
Eh, the 600-ohm version is too insensitive to be convenient. Just pick up whatever version comes cheapest, whichever that might be.
>HD 6XX veil
Can be blamed on upper bass-low mid lift and mid-treble weirdness. You can make a cut to the low problem, or fill in the highs. Some trial and error required.
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>>68015080
Metal571 has a Harmon eq curve for the 990, and I'm pretty sure the 990 has a better driver than the x1
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>>68015126
>Metal571
we all know metal posts here but has yet to admit it publicly. as such he is untrustworthy and should be disregarded
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>>68015179
No he doesn't
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>>68015050
Godspeed You! Black Emperor - Mladic
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>>68015230
That's what you want us to believe
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>>68015126
Anyone can figure out the Harman EQ from this chart. But you still should troubleshoot the high end anyway. It all depends on how much you care about getting the sound you want.
>DT990
It's a nice headphone, and arguably easier to service. Don't know about acoustically better.
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Philips Fidelio X2 for ~$227 USD on AliExpress from a Philips dealer. Sounds like a damn good price to me. How do they compare to SHP9500S?

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Philips-Fidelio-X2HR-headphones-voted-best-product-in-2015-with-50-mm-high-power-drive-3meters/32849687744.html?spm=2114.10010108.1000023.1.2991daf31y8P3C&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_3_10152_10151_10065_10344_10068_10342_10325_10343_10546_10059_10340_10314_10548_10341_10534_100031_10084_10604_10083_10103_10307_10142,searchweb201603_1,ppcSwitch_5&algo_expid=378e698c-3ba2-442c-aff1-3d1c3d108d16-0&algo_pvid=378e698c-3ba2-442c-aff1-3d1c3d108d16&priceBeautifyAB=0
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>>68011601
Topping D30
I was originally going to get the Schiit stack, but the modi kept getting backordered due to parts issues. Ended up going a month with an amp and no DAC before I bit the bullet, cancelled my order and bought a D30.
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>>68015235
I that song doesn't seem to have much treble. Try something like this

https://youtu.be/aTpNXu9iZo0
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>>68015399
Ah, good. I have a Topping D10 on the way. Right now I'm using my HyperX Cloud 2 USB DAC feeding my Massdrop O2 amp with 3.5mm to RCA. Actually it sounds quite good.
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>>68015468
Ok, testing HD6XX with no EQ on this. Those chimes/bells in the beginning sounded fantastic. Compared to the SHP9500S, they kind of get lost, but with HD6XX I can follow their sound much better from left to right.
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>>68015260
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/654wxtmhlq0dhqa/AABVeK1oAdk2Yp0-K6LhmNz3a/Beyerdynamic%20DT990%20%28new%20earpads%29.pdf?dl=0
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>>68015555
https://youtu.be/cU0Zi8IOsTo
Try this, the first few seconds will always tell me if a headphone or sound system has perfect timbre or not.

It won't sound right on anything but the most accurate system.
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>>68014150
Wheredo you find broken headphones? I searc but i never find any broken on online markets
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>>68015373
lot warmer, bassier and more fun

Built with more premium materials but I wouldn't say they are built any better than the SHP9500S which are already built fantastic as is.

They're comfortable but I would argue that the SHP9500S are slightly more comfortable. The X2's are heavier and clamp more. The stock pads for the SHP9500S aren't the deepest but they have virtually no clamp and are light weight.

Both are great headphones however and you can't go wrong with either.
I prefer the X2 but the price/performance of the SHP9500S makes it the better buy
Both are quite different however so they compliment each other very well.

Really depends which ones sound signature you like better.
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I'm planning on getting a DT 880. For plugging it directly in to a motherboard would 32 ohm be the way to go?
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>>68015860
Not sure what I'm listening for, but it seems to sound okay to me.
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>>68016021
I have the SHP9500S, and really really like it. I also have K702, HD6XX so I'm not exactly in dire need for another pair but I've heard good things about the Fidelio X2HR. Thanks for the reply.
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>>68016058
Get 250ohm. You'll be fine.
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Best 50 euro or less IEMs for running?
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>>68009012
What about his sister, M?
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What does /g/ think of Sennheiser HD 4.40 BT’s?
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>>68014694
>, and am not super happy with the HD6XX veil
Should have got HD600. We told you.
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>>68016602
I mean, in Canadian dollars it would have cost me way more than the HD6XX, even from Massdrop. And I already have the SHP9500S which some say sound similar, so I didn't mind trying something different. They do fit my head really good though, despite the tight clamp.
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>tfw got x2 for 150 euro half a year ago
me happy :))
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>>68016602
Not him, but just wondering. Whats a good price for a used pair of hd600's?

I see one of them for 150 dollars on an online market.
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>>68016881
No idea honest. I got mine at around 300€ new.
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>buy schiit
>knob falls off
>usb stops working
>thunks headphone driver
>power supply noise
>knob hotter than the sun
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>>68017057
BS.
Based Amir has given the current generation of modi a glowing review.
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>>68017103
Just because it measures well doesn't mean it will last long or is built with any QC.
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>>68017103
kill yourself IT
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>>68017103
Why do you care so much about defending a trash company?
Even then you're wrong, he said that it works well as a SPDIF DAC but it's still pretty trash as a USB one. And even if it was a fantastic USB DAC, it doesn't change the fact that Schiit has both terrible QC and terrible customer support.
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>>68008076
>want to buy a new pair of headphones
>realise that my current headphones with mods and EQ is basically TOTL for every use.

lame
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Dumb noob question incoming. Whenever I plug my headphones into the front panel audio connector of my PC, I can hear faint sounds, like a quiet squeal. Whenever I move my mouse it gets a little louder, or when I play a video game that has very high FPS.

If I buy an external USB sound card and plug my headphones into it, will this combat the issue?
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>>68017372
That's your headphones picking up electronic noise from the onboard electronics.
In short, yes buying an external DAC/Amp will fix that.
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>>68017372
uhhhhhhh, your issue sounds like graphics card coil whine, which shouldn't be related to your front panel what so ever, you should try doing some more thorough tests just to be sure

but that being said, the front panel connector is absolute shit and will cause noise regardless of what you're doing. use the back panel at all costs.

You don't need a seperate DAC btw if the back panel is clean of noise.
You don't need a DAC
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>>68017416
The back panel connector is used by speakers attached to the monitor, which I don't have issues with in regards to that whine sound.. So I think you are right
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Mainly just looking for general use. I don't listen to specific genres of music. Most of my time is spent watching movies or playing shit games.
>Budget
$900
>Location
United States
>Source
Monoprice Desktop Headphone Amplifier
>Type of headphone
Full-sized, over ear
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
Not relevant, but preferably comfortable enough for extended listening (6+ hours)
>Past headphones
M50, X2, K7XX
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>>68012754
>Mid centric
AD900X perhaps? They mid-centric leaning towards bright. Add Brainwavz pads for maximum comfort.
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Does Sweetwater or Thomann have Black Friday sales? Thinking about picking up an ADI 2 DAC
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>>68017618
Sweetwater does iirc
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>>68017211
>the fact that Schiit has both terrible QC and terrible customer support.
Citation needed. There's a lot of bias there, as happy customers aren't as likely to post about schiit in forums.
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>>68017635
I'm this anon >>68015399. I contacted their CS department 3 times and each time they fed me back a different answer. Eventually when I wanted to cancel my order I had to wait 3 days to do it.

I cannot speak on their QC problems firsthand, but it's really not hard to find people complaining about it elsewhere.
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>>68017338
What headphones?
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>>68017372
Buy FiiO E10k. That will solve your issue.
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>>68017635
>customer support so bad they tell their customers to fuck off and not buy their products
>products that have major issues that are only fixed when schiit is exposed
>any criticisms of schiit are met with drama and accusations of conspiracy theorists or foul play
buy schiit products they are kino. best company evar. american made. help support the underdog
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>>68017708
buy schiit because it sounds like shit haha isn't that just the funniest thing
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>>68017618
DONT ORDER FROM SWEETWATER theyre like fucking sales locusts.

no matter what you order your first time, be it $30 or $300 or $3000 dollars, you you must confirm your order over telephone. it's a 10-15 minute 'hey buddy getting to know ya' sales spiel from their commissioned sales "engineers". after that you get routine cold calls from your assigned "engineer" and they will actively monitor what's in your fucking shopping cart(ONCE YOU MAKE AN ORDER OR REGISTER INFO, DONT DO IT!) and cold call you based on that, it's fuckign stalker level craazy DONT ORDER FROM THESE PSYCHOS.

HOLYSHIT FUCK SWEETWATER
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>>68017792
>2018
>answering calls
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>>68017809
your first order and possible subsequent orders will not ship UNLESS you answer. they will literlaly hold the first order indefinitely until you talk with them.
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>>68017792
Was just googling that, sounds creepy as fuck. Wouldn't mind the candy but I don't need them calling me at work or me having to talk with then over the phone just for them to ship my order
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>>68017822
maybe they just really like you senpai. that's what I call customer service.
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>>68017878
time is money, I don't want to hear the spiel for a fucking $15 midi cable I just need it ASAP. if I want to know more about an item or have questions i'll ask you myself.

not this 90s used car salesman shtick in the form of "customer service".
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>>68017494
HD800 might be good for you
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>>68018086
Get the HD6XX.
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>>68018215
double the price, you think these are good for the budget
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>>68017494
Maybe it's time to try STAX. SRS3100 system on ebay is like $670.
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HD600 for serious listening sessions and Fidelio X2 for ironic niggerbass fun, sounds like a plan?
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>>68017057
>have schitt stack mk1
>bought in 2011
>years of being left on and continuous use
>still werks
only retards by chinkshit
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>>68018358
Does to me.
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>>68018086
Z talks about them here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agCnn6quYNc
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>>68009012
la creatura
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>>68018310
Yes.
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>>68017494
No sound signature preference?
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>>68018358
I suggest you get just the HD600 first and use them for a month or two. Then you'll see whether you want the X2, or some planars, or stats, or nothing at all.
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>>68017529
>Add Brainwavz pads for maximum comfort

I tried the Brainwavz pads on the AD700 and they do take the pressure off your ears which is exactly what I wanted. Unfortunately they change the sound for the worse. It sounds echoey, hollow, and less accurate. I couldn't get used to it and EQ didn't fix it. I also tried the $4 chinese replacement pads from ebay but they were hard as a rock.
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>>68017635
QUALITY
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>>68018821
Awesome bass there.
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Porta Pros vs Sporta Pros

what is the difference ?
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>>68018953
S
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>>68018957
epic troll hahahah
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>>68018972
:^)
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>>68018408
>he thinks his anecdote is meaningful when there are countless more bad experiences with schiit
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New stax announced
SR-009BK 80th anniversary edition
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>>68019294
Lemme guess, it costs over $2k right?
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>>68019302
https://stax.co.jp/products/sr-009bk/
¥380,000
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>>68019294
here we go, the latest circle jerk and it will probably measure the same too
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>>68019315
So yes
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Just a Reminder - you s oy bois can ignore it, but hardcore Audiophools BETTER be listening to Balanced circuits. Especially your headphone amp. Instant 3dB improvement over noise, and 6dB in gain/resolution. Of course, your blade has to be pretty sharp already to hear that, but it's night and day for me. InB4 "fuck you, mp3/196 is all you need!" Nop e. Once you hear it, there's no going back.
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What kind of headphone (not IEM) would you recommend for a "best bang for bucks" pricetag?
low but not chinese garbage. Acceptable to pay more for quality, but not just to have a brand sticker or top notch characteristics the average pleb can't hear (about $150)

Mostly to listen to youtube lectures (recorded with shitty mics anyway), watch anime and browse /wsg/ to keep up with the younger memes.
I want a jack, no Bluetooth, and I value isolation (noise cancellation is too expensive I guess) over bass or whatever.
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How good is the l300(nodded with pads if need be) really? Is it actually better than non estat stuff like hd800s, he1000(or whatever planar you prefer), th900 etc?
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>>68020196
Just become a boomer already and get your audiophile retirement Stax.
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>>68019294
Stax should be a little creative and put out a lambda alternative.
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>>68017057
>>knob falls off
This literally happened to me
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>>68020223
I don't really understand what your point is but I will likely get stax at some point. Its a question of sell some stuff and get l300 or get a better model a ways down the road (years). Also other headphones I want first assuming l300 isn't the best shit ever
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>>68020196
yes, needs a pad swap
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>>68020196
if you want detail and neutrality l300 beats everything other than better e-stats, bass is only neutral if you get a good seal so different pads or seal mod can help there
hd800s, he100 and every LCD are completely outclassed by them, th900 and the zmf line up are worth considering for how the bass "feels", is less detailed and neutral but it hits you really hard which you may find enjoyable
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Does anyone know of any good Velour pads for ATH M50? I can't stand the pleather ones, I hate having such a claustrophobic seal. Thanks.
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>>68020598
https://dekoniaudio.com/filter/?product_cat=audio-technica%2Bath-m50x&product_cat=audio-technica%2Bath-m50x
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>>68020617
>>68020598
don't actually buy from their site, here's the elite velour for $40

https://www.amazon.com/Dekoni-Audio-Velour-Earpad-technica/dp/B071FVD38R/
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>>68020625
Thanks man, appreciate the info and link. Thing is I'm not that huge of a fan of my M50s, I was hoping velour pads might change this up a bit but I didn't want to invest much. I found these on AliExpress for $15 CAD, so I think I might try them first.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Smooth-Velour-Ear-Pads-Cushion-For-Audio-Technica-ATH-M40-M50-M40X-M50X-M30-M35-SX1/32787313314.html?spm=2114.search0104.3.8.77e2469biacoL3&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_2_10065_10130_10068_318_10547_319_5727315_10548_10696_10084_10083_10618_452_10139_10307_532_5727215_204_10059_10884_10887_100031_320_10103,searchweb201603_60,ppcSwitch_0&algo_expid=b88634b6-b586-4599-9c41-6920ce2350af-1&algo_pvid=b88634b6-b586-4599-9c41-6920ce2350af&priceBeautifyAB=0
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>>68020658
>Thing is I'm not that huge of a fan of my M50s
you are better off buying takstar pro 82s. better sound, infinitely more comfortable

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mX39noNkJeE
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>>68020668
Thing is, I've had them in the box for like 5 years now. I wasn't too happy with the isolation (I bought them before I knew anything about headphones). And instead of keeping purchasing new headphones I'm trying to breath some new life into them.
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>>68020695
sell them and buy something open back. shp9500, hd600, massdrop hd6xx or 58x
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>>68020718
I already have SHP9500S, HD6XX, AKG K702. I'm a big fan of open back. But I just feel like trying something different and don't want to waste them. I could sell them, but then I have to ship them out somewhere and deal with that nonsense. I think I'd rather keep them.
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>>68020733
sell on /r/avexchange it will be hassle free
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>>68020740
Thanks man. I'll definitely keep that spot in mind.
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Ordered the er3xr right now
Cant wait for the triple flange rape
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Very much a beginner here. Guide meeeeeee.

>Budget
300 - 400
>Location
United States
>Source
FiiO E10 USB DAC Headphone Amplifier (Also looking to upgrade, budget is 200-300 for this)
>Type of headphone
Full-Size, Over Ear
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
Able to wear most of the day
>Sound signature
No idea.
>Past headphones
Beyerdynamic DT 770 PRO 250 Ohm, Beyerdynamic DT 880 PRO 250 Ohm semi-open

Looking forward to a pair of Sennheiser HD 650 as my next purchase, but maybe you guys can recommend something better?
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>>68020847
Just keep the dt880s and upgrade your dac/amp
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is there an e-stat with a warm sound similar to the 650?
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>>68020894
That does sound pretty dank, actually.

However those are semi-open headphones. I'd like to experience something with a wider sound stage which is why I'm thinking open.
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>>68020933
The senn 600/650/6xx models are really great, but they are a bit of a side-grade (coming from a current owner of both dt880s and hd600s). If you're looking for the fully open experience that's definitely where you want to go though.
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>>68020919
007 type although the exact flavor has varied over time. Mk1 cable relief is faulty.
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>>68018812
Which pads did you tried?
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Got a pair of AKG 533Pro, for some reason the right speaker sounds like 5% quieter. I think it's the air seal (??) that maybe moved when I dropped them once. Anyone has had this issue?
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Are Superlux HD668Bs the best at their price point?

If not, what is?
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>>68021054
The Brainwavz XL Large Velour.
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>>68020598
Most velour pads will make the M50 sound tinny unless they have some really dense foam or something

But if you want actual comfort then any pad will be better than the stock M50 pads.

I use red offbrand angled HM5 pads
https://www.ebay.com/itm/4-color-Replacement-Leather-Ear-Pads-Cushion-For-Brainwavz-HM5-HM-5-Headphones/112543976029

Also own the black linen pads here and the full and half flannel and the full pu leather.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/2x-Replacement-Ear-Pad-Cushion-for-Koss-DJ100-Brainwavz-HM5-Headset-Headphone/152859590263

Only actual Brainwavz pads I've tried are the XL Sheepskin ones which I thought were complete garbage and not worth the price at all. Have tried NVX pads though and while the NVX pads are softer I like the firmness and better build quality of the offbrand pads I mentioned above. My angled NVX pads started flaking and my normal NVX pads are deflated.

Those linen pads are pretty unique so I would recommend them the most..

>>68020695
Also the pads I mentioned with the ebay links all sound pretty good with the M50. Don't really remember how the M50 sound like with the stock pads and don't want to.
I've tried offbrand RS160 pads off aliexpress but those made the M50 sound tinny. Still much better than stock M50 pads in terms of comfort and they're only like 2 bucks.

Not exactly sure how offbrand velour M50 pads would sound like but I suspect similar to the RS160 I mentioned.
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>>68021091
I just got the microsuede to test it out, since the stock is also suede, but i have no idea how it will sound. Will probably test them on every headphone they fit.
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>>68021155
Why did you post this?
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HD6XX + Schiit stack: the general
What happened to /hpg/?
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>>68019214
>anecdote vs. anecdote
great argument you have there
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>>68021255
It became not Schiit.
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>>68021386
i'm calling you out for that
next time you're banned
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blocked
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>>68017494
You're going to get those $900 headphones and then realize damn these X2's and K7XX's sound just as good as them what the hell did I just spend my money on.
Diminishing returns is a thing.

[spoiler] I own the same amp, same headphones and then bought a Beyerdynamic T-1 [/spoiler]
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>>68021436
Dynamic-fi hell
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>>68020847
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What do you think about HD380? Used Sennheisers in the past, good sound, but not very sturdy. How are those compare?
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>>68021436
LMAO another dynamicuck who owns kilobux magnetphones but regrets it. You don't hear that shit coming from STAX owners do you?
>>68020847
Don't listen to this >>68020894 lying fucking nigger. He wants to peddle you snake oil.
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>>68021325
You are too stupid to understand the qualitative differences.
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>>68022230
Motherfucker my own audio setup is mid tier at best. If you want to tell me Lake People are snake oil and you're about to recommend a self-professed beginner get stax then you're truly something else
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>>68022280
>If you want to tell me Lake People are snake oil
If you think your amp does anything other than increase volume and you bought it for that purpose then yes you bought snake oil. Your LP purpose was a shit one and telling people to buy amps over headphones was a shitty recommendation.
>you're about to recommend a self-professed beginner get stax then you're truly something else
Now you're just putting words in my mouth faggot
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>>68022280
>Motherfucker my own audio setup is mid tier at best.
Also your setup is midfi because you bought an amp for your shitty headphones. Srs-3100 system can be had for $600.
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>>68022318
Okay, I'll bite. What's your setup and what would you recommend the guy?
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>>68022337
>What's your setup
STAX
>what would you recommend the guy?
Not an amp instead of a headphone which is why I'm shitting on you fampai.
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>>68022349
so a late-night STAX victim huh. What's so great about them that makes them worth it?
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>>68022383
Nothing. Enjoy your Beyer chew toy.
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>>68022653
Interesting response! Enjoy your presumably better sounding STAX
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>>68022670
That's not me I was too lazy to even bother replying to you
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Modi = garbage.
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reposting my headfuns
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Sennheiser game one's are the best gaming headset ever. All the other stuff is trash. I just don't like the open ear style of the ones I'm trying right now, waiting for the game zeros to come in with closed ear.
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Posting my setup, ignore the m40x, I use my modded m1060
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>>68023090
topping sure uses nice switches
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>>68023090
What mods did you do to your m1060?
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>>68023090
>>68022707
based topping bros
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>>68023161
Fuzzer mod and paper towel mod
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>>68023090
I also eventually want to get the DT880 600 ohms, is the 600 ohm version a little better? I heard it has more treble compared to the 250 ohm version, either way I have plenty of power
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>Budget
100euro hard budget
>Location
Netherlands
>Source
My phone (s8)
>Type of headphone
IEM
>Open or closed
I dont want sound to leak outside.
>Comfort level
I mainly use my dt770 at home and want to use my iem outside/at the gym so it doesnt have to be really comfy.
>Sound signature
I like neutral but have not tried anything else.
>Past headphones
DT770

I also want the build quality to be decent. Esp the cable.
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>>68023327
Shure SE215.
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I have a pair of HD598s, is a Schiit Stack still the way to go, or should I go for something else for DAC and amp?
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>>68023387
if you're not going to power anything else just get an e10k
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>>68023446
e10k sounds like garbage compared to Schiit, as much as that brand may not be the greatest. Don't do this.

>>68023387
Topping stack would cost you a bit less, sound the same/a bit better, and has more ports for audio devices.
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>>68023470
>e10k sounds like garbage compared to Schiit
it sounds like sound
are we head-fi now?
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>>68023479
Me here >>68022707
I've previously owned the Schiit stack as well, and still have my e10k because it's small and cheap. The amp on it sounds muddy as all fuck and even cheaper headphones sound audibly worse with them. You get what you pay for. The DAC is alright.
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>>68023498
>>68023470
lol look we have a head fi cultist here
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>>68023498
I don't believe you
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>>68023534
I have no reason to lie. Don't get an e10k over a Schiit or Topping stack unless money or portability are issues. It's a good little thing, but definitely worse.

>>68023518
You're in a headphone thread, where people are specifically here to ask what's better.
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>>68023479
>it sounds like sound
What the fuck is that supposed to mean retard? If it's all just sound why even bother with an external DAC and Amplifier? Hell what was the point of >>68023387 buying HD598s (which cost 200-300$) instead of just using a cheap gayming headset? HD598s run fine off of integrated sound chips due to tiny impedance, if it's "just sound" you want.
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>>68023555
>>68023562
e10k sounds the same as schiit stack and topping stack
stop misleading people imbecile
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>>68023562
do not fall for dichotomous thinking
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>>68023582
Blow me, you're wrong.
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>>68023446
>>68023470
>>68023498
I put down $300 on HD598s and mostly use them at my desktop, so I might as well put down a little more for audio quality, and portability is a non-issue.

>>68023479
>>68023582
Almost fell for the "there's no difference in sound dude it's all placebo" when I was about to buy my HD598s. Got told there is no difference between a $50 pair and a $300 pair, so I went to a store and tried a few. Sure enough the difference is plenty noticeable.

I'm gonna go ahead and assume people who say sound quality is placebo/meme are the people that go to loud concerts and clubs, and have wrecked their hearing by 22.
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>>68023636
there are absolutely differences between headphones, particularly between <$50 and >$300 models
amps are a much more controversial topic
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been looking at the hd600 for awhile, but the assdrop hd58x caught my attention. how would they stack up vs the 600 and 650 for pretty much everyday use? theyd be for gayming, anime and music which is a lot of boomerrock and sometimes calmer acoustic stuff like neil young. i do like having bass when its there, just not really into hip hop and edm and shit.

although im not a niggerbass lover, i was kinda worried the 600s would be too boring, and thats why im interested in the 58xs. although i really have no point of reference, thats just from what i gathered.
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Hey faggots
Anybody tried pic related? Battery time 3h with 4 charges in the charging case so that's 12h, pretty decent. Price is 90 European monies, not too bad.
Seems like a good investment to me. Got better suggestions for wireless earbuds?
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>>68024088
>>68024088
>>68024088
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>>68013664
>>68013828
>I've heard if windows isn't 100/100 volume you don't get full 16bit resolution or something like that

Whoever wrote it was a retard on an audiofool. Modern Windows mixes audio in 32bit floating point so volume control results in no dynamic range reduction.2/100 sounds the same as 100/100, unless your shitty DAC clips with a full-scale signal.





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