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>2500k of GPUs.
How did Nvidia came up with such a masterpiece which even they won't be able to top.
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>uses half power than vega 64
>Crushes it in every benchmark
>100w less than its successor
>Still performs better relatively close
>most relevant card even after 2 years
>was priced decently during release
Yep it's never getting outdone.
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>>68406432
>Crushes it in every benchmark
>every benchmark
Vega64 does blender rendering about 40% faster than the 1080Ti.
They're also roughly even in Wolfenstein II and a few others.

>>68406326
>a masterpiece which even they won't be able to top.
2500k was topped by the 2600k and 2700k.
Which was topped next year by the 3770k.
And so on.

Also it's only been what, 1 year since this garbage that'll be gimped by Turing drivers came out? 7970 and 295x2 would like a word. They are still relevant today. I doubt we'll see the same of the 1080Ti in 6 more years.
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>>68406326
how can you call an 800 dollar gpu the 2500k of of gpus?! the 2500k was $200. fucking retard
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>>68406326
7950 is 2500k of GPUs
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>>68406464
>They're also roughly even in Wolfenstein II and a few others.
Basically anything that uses Vulkan or async compute.
>>68406485
this
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Isn't Vega64 a literal production card? Who uses that for gaming?
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>>68406485
My 7970 long, long outlasted my 2500k.
I was getting bad stuttering and shit by like 2014 or 2015 on it.
Hell even when I first built it in 2011, 2500k on win7 didn't feel nearly as fast as my Thurderbird 1.33 felt on Windows 2000. But my 1600X is perfectly smooth and fine on Win10.
On the other hand, my 7970 was still perfectly fine and similar to a 1050Ti, a $150 card, 6 years later. Whereas a 2500k was generally worse than a $50 CPU in 2017.

No comparison. 7970/7950 was vastly superior to the 2500k for its time. CPUs have actually progressed more than GPUs have in 7 years. As much as the TFLOPs will tell you otherwise, there's more to it than that.

>>68406521
Pretty much. Vega 56 is 97% clock-for-clock the same in games and better for that. Vega 64 is only worth it for scientific compute, rendering, etc.

>>68406479
You said it right there. It's because OP is a retard.
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>>68406464
>Vega64 does blender rendering about 40% faster than the 1080Ti
yeah because people buy these cards for productivity not games
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can i still buy one now and benefit accordingly?

i can't shell out big bux for a 2080 ti
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>>68406432
>was priced decently during release
no
now leave jacket man
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>>68406500
What people fail to understand is that Turing is now an async compute GPU just like Vega. New games will benefit Vega just as much as Turing. Which is why they added raytracing and DLSS in order to differentiate themselves from AMD's offering.
Navil is going to be very interesting. I am keen to see what they offer instead.
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>>68407682
>Navi
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>>68406326
>uses half power than vega 64
>100w less than its successor
What are you talking about? The 1080 Ti is a 250W TDP card and uses around the same power as the 2080 Ti and Vega 64 in real world terms.
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>>68407834
The problem has always lay with releasing an async compute GPU into a space occupied by games that rely heavily on older games or games that had been in development for years prior to release. We are only now seeing some games coming out that make use of things like async compute and primitive shaders. Before that it was brute force rasterization. Nvidia's Turing may be late to the game but Turing will ensure that newer games will run very well on both AMD and Nvidia. AMD knew this was the future and Nvidia knew it too which is why Turing exists in the first place.
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>>68407945
>into a space that relies heavily on older game engines that are not compute optimized.
fixed
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>>68406485
**7970ghz edition
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>>68407991
Lol no it was the 7950 because it was enough for everything and you could flash it into a 7970 without paying extra, also it shitted on a gtx 760/770 in more modern games
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>>68406725
Im still on my GHz 7970 and my i5 2500k is going strong on a 4.7 GHz since 2013 (got an h100 AIO there)

A few games cant run 60fps high/med but im fine with it
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>>68407834
1080ti averages 150-250W.
Vega 64 averages 250-350W.
Any vega 64 which is not undervolted runs at same this TDP.
Undervolted 1080ti stays less than 200w.
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>>68408230
I got about a 10-25% increase in average fps going from a 2500k to a 1600X, and about a 500%+ increase in 0.1% minimums.
I probably leave more shit running in the background. I use my PC mostly for work but still game.

I'm not fine not getting a smooth 60fps minimum.

>>68408397
I love when you guys lie and say you can unvolt Pascal cards.
No you can't.
They're voltage locked. By definition you can't, you dumb shill.
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>>68406326
>bought 1050ti 2 years ago
>nvidia unable to make better performance cards
Best purchase i made.
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>>68408230
>>68408488
To clarify, that was with a 7970. Same GPU, more FPS. 2500k was bottlenecking it. I had no idea until I replaced it with the 1600X, I thought they were both pretty evenly falling behind.

>>68408489
If that's the best purchase you've made, you've not made very good ones.
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>>68408502
>card that still runs every modern game at 60 fps at 768p.
Its been 2 years and nvidia still hasnt come up with something better. So this one will probably last me till it dies.
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>>68406464
>2500k was topped by the 2600k and 2700k.
>Which was topped next year by the 3770k.
False, Ivy Bridge was pretty much had the same IPC and Sandy Brudge was war easier and better to OC. 4790K and after was better in most ways to sandy bridge.
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>>68408533
>Ivy Bridge was pretty much had the same IPC
2% higher. That is close, yes. But still more than they gained from haswell->sky->kaby->coffee each.
And Ivy Bridge was on a smaller process. 22nm vs 32nm. That's significant.
>4790K and after was better in most ways to sandy bridge.
No shit.

Ivy was a significant upgrade to Sandy. More so than Kaby over Sky by far.
Was it less so than Haswell was? Sure. Doesn't change that what that poster said was stupid.
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>>68406326
What the fuck are you on about? I own that exact card you show, and it can barely keep itself below 85c because it uses so much power. Older cards used less power than this monster.
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>>68410452
Do you have shit cooling? Mine never goes above 70 degrees and I have it overclocked pretty heavily.
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>>68410488
I run at 50% fan speed, replaced thermal paste it auto boosts to 1900mhz but then throttles as it hits 85c in like 15 mins. WTF is going on?
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>>68406464
based, im still rocking my HD7950
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>>68410488
And I can only use Precision X software otherwise the second fan won't spin. Who the fuck designed this retarded card if it's not compatible with MSI afterburner.
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>>68410610
What are your ambient temps? What game/benchmark are you running? What model is the card (what cooler does it have)? Do you have adequate airflow through the case and it's surroundings? How are your cpu temps?
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>>68410657
OP's pic, the 1080 Ti SC2 from EVGA. Using Unigine Heaven and Battlefield 1. Got 2 140mm fans at the front of my case, and one noctua 120mm at the rear. CPU is air cooled btw, but never exceeds 65c through a stress test.
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>>68410657
Considering getting a Raijintek Morpheus II cooler and slapping 2x120mm noctuas on it. But it's a hassle opening up the card and I gotta source a fan splitter/adapter.
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>>68410674
Idk man that is really weird, honestly I'd try RMAing it. Your cpu temps are completely fine so it's gotta be something with the card.
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>>68410712
Could be case airflow actually, you made me think for a sec. I use a Fractal Design R5, and I just took the side panel off. GPU temp shot down to 75c. Boosting between 1835/1870mhz on Unigine Heaven.
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>>68410762
Get exhaust on top, that should make it better.
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>>68410610
>>68410674
Sounds like a QA issue. Like improper thermal paste, missing thermal pads, not the right mounting pressure of the cooler, etc.
Might, yeah, need to RMA it.

That said, that is a pretty damn small cooler for a 1080Ti. It appears to barely be over PCI slot height which is unusual.
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>>68410762
what's with all the fractal shills lately
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>>68412209
They are decent. Worth shilling at times.
What's surprising is that there aren't more Silverstone shills.
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>>68406725
>Whereas a 2500k was generally worse than a $50 CPU in 2017.
Fake news. The current Intel quad core performance option, the 8350K, for $170, is barely 25% faster than a -stock- 2500K. Overclocked 2500K can still keep up with it. You need to shell out for a six core to go faster than a 2500K -seven- long fucking years later. CPUs have barely advanced in the last couple of years.
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>>68406326
Reminder that anything above the 1060 is a waste of money to be used only by autists who cannot breathe unless they have absurd, pointless FPS/resolution/refresh rates
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I feel like the GTX 970 makes more sense as the "2500k of GPUs" even with the whole 3.5gb bs.
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What was the 3570k of gpus?
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>tfw still on 2500K / GTX670 / 8 GB RAM
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gtx 1060 6gb is the real 2500k, it'll be good for years yet and was like 250 buck
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>>68412332
You're delusional.
>>68413032
>>68412386
lmfao holy shit
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>>68413471
https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i3-8350K-vs-Intel-Core-i5-2500K/3935vs619
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>>68406326
>2500k of GPUs
lolwut, I picked up my 2500k and motherboard for $100, would be lucky to find a 1080ti for less than $600
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>>68406326
that's my exact GPU. It's so fucking based.
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>>68413032
you're fucking retarded. The 1060/480 were embarrassments that didn't even outperform cards like the 290x. the 2/390/x is the 2500k of this gen.
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>>68406464
>They're also roughly even in Wolfenstein II and a few others.
On what planet?
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>>68413786
the 1060 is faster than the 290x though while also using half the TDP and not gimped by AMD drivers
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>>68406326
I can't wait in a few years when 1080ti drops below $100, imagine the budget rig you could build, I just got a 7970 for $80 and I love it.
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COME BACK when the 1080ti is 7+ years old and we'll see if it lives up to it's name.
Also, 2500k a shit. No HT kills it
2600k is where it's at.
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>>68414097
6700k is where it's at nigger
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>>68406326
>nvidia
>fine wine
More like decaying wine with driver updates confirmed to lower performance
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>>68414136
At least they ship out with proper drivers
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>>68413825
>the 1060 is faster than the 290x though
objectively incorrect in every scenario
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>>68414136
The only thing confirmed is your extra chromosome.
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>>68414363
If you are going to state facts, you need to back that shit up
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>>68413656
>userbenchmark
18+ board.
Anyone over 18 should be able to easily tell that that site is literally fake. It's baseless arbitrary scores.

>>68413797
Obviously not a reputable source.
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>>68414458
https://youtu.be/Kqadf7TfMy8
This game was optimized for amd, right?
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>>68414125
The 6700k and 7700k we're obsolete less than 6 months after release.

>>68414136
Had the same issues with AMD drivers.
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>>68406432
>was priced decently during release
>when you have been pounding that goy wallet pussy so hard that it's permanently open and gaping
>normal jewery just doesn't cut it any more
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>>68406326

It is going to become the next 780Ti once Nvidia start using its massive clout to force developers to code for DX12-tier features.

Kepler died because Nvidia forced developers to go heavily on texture data and color depth which taxes memory bandwidth, but wouldn't cause an issue on Maxwell and newer.

That's what the whole Kepler nerfs came from on post-Kepler era games.

It is all part of planned obsolescence. Maxwell/Pascal era hardware will begin to struggle for content of tomarrow. NuDoom and Wolfenstein: New Colossus are what you should be expecting in the future.
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>>68413742

same. paid like $550 for it on amazon.

originally I had the FTW3 version i paid like $725 for before the panic or some shit, sold it for like $950 on ebay cause I wasn't really using it.

i did limp by with two 780 ti's for a while between 1080 ti's. made me wish I hadn't sold my 2 290x's but they made me $500 that offset the original 1080 ti purchase so it all panned out.

>mfw I have a 1030 GT that I have absolutely no need for anymore, but not really worth selling
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>>68412877
980ti
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>>68415689
literally, LITERALLY me

I bought an Auros GPU, sold it for $950, then bought the EVGA for $550. Holy fuck, my brother
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>>68414503
>optimized for amd
please stop using buzzwords you don't understand, faggot
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>>68406326
>b-but muh AMD
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For real, should I go buy 1080 or should I wait for new AMD GPUs?
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>>68416480
According to Gaymers Nexus, 1080/TI stock is almost gone.
There's still a fuck ton 1060/50 stock though.
Turing was released too early and suffering from low yeilds and hardware/software issues.
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>>68416574
should I get a Zotac GF GTX 1080 AMP EXTREME for 500 euros?
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>>68406485
Came here to post this
Also the 2600k was the better purchase over the 2500k
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>>68407834
>no GTX 590s
Step the fuck up nigga
You dont know shit about power consumption

I maxed a silverstone ST 1500w PSU with mine
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>>68412877
GTX 780 ti

It was decent but not really an upgrade
>>68415972
Naw the 980 Ti overclocked like a champ but the 3570k did not as it was the first non soldered intel chip
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>>68416592
Interesting, I was not aware the gap was that small.
I don't game, as that's for children, but interesting nonetheless.
My 2600k just sits at idle in my ETH mining rig.

>>68416586
IDK ask >>>/v/
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>>68416728
>I don't game, as that's for children, but interesting nonetheless.
You can practically taste the insecurity
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>>68416607
How does the 990x preform these days?
6 cores in 2010 was a big deal.
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>>68416749
It'll hit you too.
Get a real career and suddenly your time is super valuable.
Things like TV and Gaymes are a waste of time.
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>>68416753
Its decent but that setup is not really used anymore
Ran good at 4.4ghz and the 590s overclocked
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>>68416785
ahahahah so tell me Mr. Grown up man of adultness. What do you spend your free time on.
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>>68416802
>>68416785

so sayeth the /g/ users
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>>68406326
you could overclock 40% any 1080Ti ?
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>>68416802
Not the OP, but getting tail, learning how to cook like a chef, getting ahead at work (getting mo' money, mo' problems), having decent convos with real friends, drinking, travelling (the world)...

Gaming is cool. Time enjoyed isn't wasted. But as you get older, you appreciate different things - imaginary points on a screen don't mean as much as they used to.

Enjoy being a kid! No need to rush. Don't be afraid to grow up and leave the games behind some day.
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...the 2080 ti is faster and has a whole array of new features, what are you talking about?

Also, AMD Navi should get pretty close to the performance for about half the price in 2019.
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no just a fuckload of people brought 1080ti because 1080p is a normie meme and people think its sounds impressive still that's a joke.

only reason 2500k is popular is people brought it for dayz and bf3.

cpu and gpu improve by 10% every year.

thats just the reality its been that way for like 25years its just the way it is.

if you feel you need to get attached to hardware to justify still owning it you are a sad fuck.

just buy cpu you can overclock every 10years and high end gpu every 7years and you are fine. following hardware every year is a mental ilness
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>>68406464
>>295x2

Nice housefire pajeet


But desu if i could pick one up for 90 dollar id do
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>>68416840
>but getting tail
Excuse me?
>learning how to cook like a chef
You didn't learn to cook when you were a teenager? How do you feed yourself, how come you talk about being a grown up, but instead all I hear is that you are spending your free time learning how to take basic care of yourself.

>getting ahead at work (getting mo' money, mo' problems)
Yeah, working is your free time. Nice answer.

>having decent convos with real friends
>social life and games are completely separate, it's not like you can do one or the other or sometimes both.

>drinking
WOW such a grown up. tell me billy you also grown up enough to be smoking in your free time?

>travelling (the world)
Yeah, gaming and that don't mix, your choice when you decide to enjoy one or the other.

>Gaming is cool. Time enjoyed isn't wasted. But as you get older, you appreciate different things - imaginary points on a screen don't mean as much as they used to.
It's in the same class as a book, as a movie, as arts or crafts or spending time thinking on a puzzle of theory. It's a pleasant diversion, which sole purpose is to enjoy yourself.

Any way I can respect people who just enjoy other stuff more, or just don't have free time. But if your sole reason for not playing games is "its kids stuff, I'm an adult" then it's shallow, like a teenager who is trying to act grown up.
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>>68406326
the 2500k was easily affordable, that's why it was so popular
to have a 2500k thing you need it to be widespread and high performance enough to last years with no considerable difference when upgrading
the 1080ti is not that
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>>68416910
Get a job
>HURR DURR NVIDIA'S FAULT I CAN'T AFFORD THINGS
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>>68416857
Are all of its issues a feature too?
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how much longer until I can pick up a gtx 1080ti for $50 like I can with a 2500k?
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>>68416914
of course you're going to get super high performance by just throwing money to the wall you spaz, the point is that the 2500 was a bit over 200 bucks and still pulls its weight in this day and age, reason why it is remarkable
will the 1080ti at over $600 manage to still be relevant in 7 years?
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>>68416907
moron. a sign of adulthood is looking down at others who don't live like you do, because, of course, only your way of living is the best way.
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>>68416860
Dayz was long after 2500k launch
3570k was already out by then


2500k was popular because
It was a great overclocker
P67/Z68 boards were cheap and great
It was a quad core when at that time most people were coming off dual cores E6xxx or E8xxx
Most games up until the past two years used 1-2 threads

Only since about mid 2017 has the 2500k really started showing its age
Most DX 12 and other modern API game engines

Also we used to get 40% or even 80% GPU performance gains per generation.
Only recent have we seen shit tier generation improvements for GPUs
CPUs used to double performance every 20 months until moores law stopped being a law around 2013
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>>68416957
Yeah, thats a phase everybody goes through, it's called teenage years.
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>>68406326
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>>68416939
Well lets see
You can guy a GTX 580 for about 50 dollars now which came out in 2010
So in about 8 years you will be able to buy a 1080 ti for 50 bucks
And no a 1080 ti will not be relevant in 7 years just as a GTX 680 is not relevant today
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>>68406326
In GPU terms it isn't old enough to be considered the "2500k of GPUs," not enough generations have passed.

I doubt that the 1080ti will be a good option for a GPU 7 generations from now.
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>>68416976
>Nvidia Ends
The correct title is TSMC Ends as Nvidia is a fablet company
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>>68417039
Nvidia could have just kept on ordering new GPUs and TSMC would still deliver them. This is Nvidia's call.
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It'll get gimped around the time the 2060 comes out
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My 780 started to 'age' around the time the 10 series was released.

During the 900 series my 780 was still kang and I never had any problem running anything at 1080p/60hz.

Nvidia has a way of slowing down old GPUs through driver updates.
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i'm starting to think EVGA sucks ass. it's the only company i've dealt with failing products. first with the thermal pad bullshit on my 1070, and now there's coil whine on my 1080 Ti.
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>>68416607
You're also a winfag, based and redpilled.
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>>68416857
Nah for me its getting to the top so people can work for me while i play games, step up man.
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>>68417330
Keep fantasizing /v/tard.
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>>68416802
Right now?
Renovating my house I bought.
Pic related

Don't get me wrong, I miss the days where I could play video games 5 hours a day without a care in the world.
I don't get any enjoyment from Gaymes anymore.
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>>68416785
But getting schooled on 4chan isn't a waste of time?
>>68416749
Pretty much this.
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>>68417880
>Right now?
>Renovating my house I bought.
You kidding?
>works hard muh actual carrer, DONT YOU KIDS realize time is precious, I don't have time for games during my FREE TIME!

>so what do you do during your FREE time?

>I do manual labor in renovating my house

LOL! Youd think that a big boy like you with all your money and "time is precious" would pay somebody to do it, so you could enjoy free time. But no instead you do it yourself like a poor person.
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>turing is a flop because the 1080ti is too good
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>>68417880
>I'm so grown up I only have time to do grown up things and condescend on 4chan
this cunt really is a man of the world
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adults wouldn't be on /g/ trying to prove their adultness to other children
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>>68418075
>>68418090
>>>/v/
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>>68418090
>doesn't own a house
>doesn't have a real career
>plays video games'
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>>68417880
imagine being this kind of a sad cunt, cope of the year right here LMAO
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>>68416973
we have never got 40 or 80%

its been 20% for like 15years and each gen is every 2years so 10% a year. and cpus improve by 10% a year since like 2006
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>>68406326
because they're basically competing with themselves
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>>68417126

Nvidia isn't slowing down cards through drivers. It is game developers who start using feature sets on newer platforms.

Once game developer start using DX12-tier features. Maxwell/Pascal are going to start choking.
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>>68416785

Protip: After a certain point in life, nobody gives a fuck on how you spend your free time.
Shit-talking other people's interests is just being petty and bitter.
>"I HATE PEOPLE HAVING FUN WITH X AND DON'T SEE HOW "X" IS FUN!"
imagined being triggered over such petty shit.
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>>68406479
This. End this forced meme. The 2500k was an every-man processor. The 1080ti costs more on its own that some of the builds the 2500k would've been used in.
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>>68414503
It is optimized for async compute of which the RTX line are better at.
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>>68406326
Are you retarded? The whole point of 2500k was that it was relatively cheap and lasted for years.

So far 970 is the 2500k of GPUs
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>>68408532
>768
GET OUT
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>>68414453
How come Mad Max looks so fucking good and runs so well compared to other games? what witchcraft is powering it?
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>>68421104
It's empty.
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>>68406725
>tfw still on my 2500k from 2011
Get fucked cuck
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>>68416800
>590s overclocked
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that's the r9 290 idiot
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>>68421332
Did you stutter?
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>>68410452
No it doesn't.
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>>68412332
>buying a 8350k instead of a 2600
Anon, come on.
Even a 2200G, $100, good iGPU if you're into that, matches or edges out the 2500k

Yeah, $50 is not that realistic, but lower end chips can get 2500k gaming performance for that price on single thread oriented games for sure.
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>>68422898
2200G at 3.9GHz is around the same as a 2500k at like 5GHz (which it doesn't reach). And the later uses a lot less power.

2200G or 2500k isn't enough CPU for an RX570 or 1060. They just aren't good enough now days. People who say they are are just delusional.
A $50 Pentium or Athlon 2c/4t generally performs around the same as the stock 2500k. There's plenty of tests done to show that. They have significantly higher IPC and around the same turbo clocks.
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>>68407258
I do. Vega 64 is a fucking beast on blender
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>>68421041
The 1080/1070ti are the new 970. Not quite 4k at max ready but they're very good in terms of price/performance if you can get them on sale.
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>>68423938
I didn't think that anon was being sarcastic.

Vega 64 or Vega Pro are a beast if used for productivity.
But their raster performance is too weak for games at the $600 price they had.
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The real 2500k of GPUs is pic related. The price was a steal and it's still going strong.
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>>68424848
How Nvidiots this delusional?
No Nvidia GPU has held out long compared to GCN ones. That's an objective fact.
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Ugh imagine a world where a gpu that cost 750 quid is being called good value simplify because the competition isn't there.
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>>68424243
Their prices are absurdly high for obsolete hardware. Anyone spending that much might as well just get a 1080ti, and a 1080ti was a better value on release day too.





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