Post any hot sexy futanari videos. 2D is welcomed but 3D is preferredAnd btw Futanari girls are not trans or trannies however you want to call them
>>24737468Damn you can't go deeper than that
bump
god i wish futa were real
>>24738936With animation you can go even deeper than that.https://spankbang.com/7eg0r/video/omitome+misspelled+part+2#
>>24737452I rarely come into these threads, because it never has anything I haven't seen that's somewhat worth saving.
Nice to see someone save my webms
>all hyper shitfuck off
>>24741561please cry more
What's the appeal behind these monster fucking dicks. Am I the only one that prefers their futas to be somewhat grounded by the laws of physics?
>>24742516Me too. Big animal sized dicks might have some cool "I'll abuse you and rip you apart " appeal and all, but it's gotta have some realistic impact to it. The artist gotta know how to make that happen and put some actual sexual energy in the action, and if he's good at it, he can do that even with normal sized body parts lol. Most of these are just go way overboard and suspension of disbelief goes way beyond the usual for futas, just ruins the whole fun and becomes comical Just two overinflated balloon dolls pushing overinflated balloon dicks into one another really
>>24742516Same, anonThis shit is uncanny
>>24742516Imagine being a massive faggot.No, bigger, bigger than your mom. As big as op.Then imagine years of degenerate porn, so much of it that pleasure centers in the brain are absolutely burned out so you seek even more depraved visuals to get off.
>>24739653I like that. Thx for the link, too.
>>24742516Asians and weirdos love weird fantasie shit with stupid proportions.You must have greek genes as I do because we tend to like things that are reasonable.
>>24739653>Dead
>>24748163Whoa, you're telling me that is not possible to do in real life?
>>24748163In reality, most the women in this thread would have gone the way of Mr Hands - death by internal bleeding.
>>24742516>>24742516>Pander to MEEEEEEEEFuta's with massive cocks are top tier aesthetic
>>24737462>>24737468I love rough fucking where you can hear the bed creaking and shit getting rattled. Anyone got anything else similar to this or any recommendations?
>>24741561why do you even watch porn. just kys normalfaggot.
>>24743972I agree with you in principle, but sometimes my monkey brain just really wants to see oversized dicks shoved in undersized holes.
>>24737452Dude a man with tits either needs top surgery or is a little trans you can’t run you can’t hide you can only deny for so long
>>24742516Go big or go home. You got your fantasies I got mine.
>>24742516Sourcehttps://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=heisenburger52
>>24748309theterriblefairy is such a faggot. Does nothing but couple pinups or something every month and does a 3 second animation or two every couple months. That's all he's done over the past fucking 3 years. Come to think of it, he hasn't done a full animation release in 3 or 4 years.
>>24752682It sucks that he doesn't do good animations anymore, but if you don't like his content now just don't pay for it. What's the sense in being upset about it?
>>24739215source?
>>24742516The thing that bothers me the most is the "futa" with giant swinging balls and no pussy. That's not a futa, it's a shemale at best.I'm okay with semi-large dicks, but the balls just really have no place, especially giant saggy ones.
>>24742516I think it's unironically too much porn, clogging the brain. You probably had to have watched a bunch of porn to get into futa, so hyperfags probably tend to also be really into futa too.I just want more reasonable sized futa dick, man.
is redapple still making stuff?
>>24753576no.
>>24753419This is not to refute your entire statement, but I realized I was into trans/futa on female at 15 years old. So it isn't necessarily some sort of progression of degeneracy. It can just be your thing based on brain development.
>>24753419correct. Also, the distinct fetish that futa fulfills (masculine context shrouded in a feminie form) is a strange combination of desiring both genders. It sort of follows that the mixed components are both taken to extremes (hyperfemine bimbo features and "hypermasculine" giant cock). I personally find it pedestrian and hold that believability is a way better aesthetic
>>24753077why are you assuming i do pay for it? Don't tell me you're a patron to him anon. You're getting almost nothing in return. TTF can deal with his lower subscriber count for all i care. I have the older videos to watch.
>>24752682aren't they like that to make infinite loops? just my assumption anyways
>>24753923Same here, I didn't look for it, I found out about it and liked it. But actual futa, not this shemale shit. If I want to watch a tranny fucking a girl, I watch real life stuff. Which is pretty hot too if the guy looks like he would pass for a real woman, instead of being an abomination.
>>24755441>actual gay tranny lover calling full package futa aka dickgirls tranniesretard
>>24753419I distinctly remember watching a Real Sex episode with a Trans porn star. They showed her coming out of a tub, her long, flaccid cock swaying with suds, and I was smitten. I started used the Internet for porn a few years later, but these were naughty cartoons and erotica.My tastes have definitely expanded and become more degenerate with the help of the Internet, but a lot of it was already there.
>>24753122Rigid3D
>>24753419futa was the first thing i fapped too
>>24745809and here's what started it all off
>>24737452no pussy=not a futanari=a trannylearn the difference you retarded nigger, it could save your life
>>24755610>her
>>24757351It could also mean a dickgirl, i.e. a naturally born person resembling a 'shemale' or a woman who has converted her pussy into a dick.Futanari and dickgirl are both fantasy categories.
>>24753923I got into futa around that age too. Iunno I always felt that I would've probably never been into it if I didn't wank off to porn every night back then, cause the website I used had thumbnails for its categories and i'd often scroll past it until one day I clicked on it.
https://hentaiflix.tv/hard-dicks-nights-3d-hentai-smerinka/
>>24755466no pussy = trannyget fucked retard
>>24737452Western """"futas"""" never have a vagina, so those are trannies.>>24757351This.
>>24757351>>24758871This is like arguing that dragons with only 2 legs are actually wyverns. Like it's such a pointless argument. Whether 4 legs or 2 legs, they're more or less the same thing. Being super autistic about the distinction gets us nowhere.Same thing with futa. With vagina or without vagina is meaningless. Because either way, the whole point of giving a cock to a woman, is to see her cock get used, not to see her vagina get used. You can't even see a futa's vagina in many poses. Like Here >>24737462Because the camera never gets the vag angle, it's a complete mystery whether she has one or not. Either way, you're watching a girl with a cock.Needing to confirm that a vagina is there, is nothing but a cope by dudes who are afraid they might be gay for liking futa.
>>24759037>correcting a name is "super autistic"the fuck
>>24757351literally no one cares. Even all the best futa/dickgirl artists and/or animators don't care. Futa has just naturally become an umbrella term for any porn that involves a female having a penis either with or instead of a vagina. The huge majority of people just want to see a girl have a dick and use it to fuck someone. Hardly anyone cares about whether she has a vagina or not cause it's hardly ever the focus. I'd also reckon that most people prefer the "futa" to have no vagina at all because having a vagina placed behind a pair of balls or under a weird clit penis is weird looking and hardly makes sense. I greatly prefer the "futa" to have no vagina because i prefer the more anatomically correct perineum.
>>24737452Wtf are you talking about? Futa is 1000% trannies
>>24759037>This is like arguing that dragons with only 2 legs are actually wyvernsso you mean it's like being correct? thank you for understanding, im not reading the rest of your shitpostyes, im still fucking mad the flying niggers in skyrim are called "dragons" despite being wyverns, being a retard isn't an excuse to change definitions.
>>24759447>>24759105People were calling 2 legged creatures "dragons" looooong before skyrim. But you only care when Skyrim does it, because it was the first time that you were made aware of the difference, and your autism made you hyper-fixate on an meaningless distinction. You guys are no better than Chris Chan getting violently upset over the color of Sonic's arms.
>>24759447Why you posting tranny porn anon?
Futanari is easier to search for than "femboys with tits".Futa of every kind is fine. But I mostly like futa with balls and no vagina. I will call it futa. You may now continue your autistic rage.
>>24759478And this whole wall-of-text rant you're doing right is supposed to not be autistic?
>>24759613You can look at it that way if you wish, but it doesn't change the fact that you're a huge insecure kill-joy who whines about whether or not the girl pissing at ther camera has a vagina or not.
>>24759478retards have existed since the dawn of time, it's not an excuse to change definitions nowelse there wouldn't have been a fucking dragon and wyvern schism in the first placeas for futanari, the term mean "hermaphrodite", not my fault niggers are too retarded to look up the definition of hermaphrodismthen again it's not just lazy retards, actual trannies have a stakes at subverting the term to give themselves more validation(just try to look for a futamaxxing thread on the gay board if you don't believe me), these kinds of trannies are just deviants that can't understand some stuff is better left to fiction
>>24759626>strawmanning this hardit's about being insecure, it's about being tired of seeing newfags, trannies and retarded niggers subverting terms because they are either too lazy to look up the actual definition or to force themselves in.if I want to fap to tranny porn, I'll go to one of the many tranny threads on /gif/, if im in a "futanari" thread then that mean I want to fap to futanari porninb4 muh dickgirlfine nigger, post shemales in dickgirl thread but don't call them futanari
>>24759705>But modern day tranny politicsDon't care. Back when you had to get hentai on sketchy websites littered with popups in the 90s and early 00s, what you would call "futanari" was largely called "shemale" or "dickgirls". And then the word futanari became more popular, because it sounded more Japanesey, and so it was used to distinguish Japanese drawn shemales.Old doujins that were listed under "Futanari", would sometimes have vaginas, sometimes not. Sometimes balls, sometimes not. Sometimes the dick was actually just the clit, sometimes not. but it was all under the umbrella of either "shemale" or "dickgirls", or the burgeoning term "futanari". The terms were conflated.>>24759719The idea that futanari only means hermaphrodites is an argument that came later, when insecure fuckheads like yourself started getting into it.As for the term "hermaphrodite" itself, it was originally meant to express two aspects of the feminine and masculine put together. It was latter used as a medical term to describe two sets of genitals. Although, the two sets of genitals don't have to be fully formed. You can have a penis with some minor ovarian growth, and that would still make you a hermaphrodite. Check here, but be warned, the image is a pretty graphic surgery image https://www.cureus.com/articles/47328-ovotesticular-disorder-with-seminoma#!/You can see the 20 year old man has what seems to be a normal penis. But they still had to deal with some ovaries.But I digress. The idea of hermaphroditism as a strict medical definition regarding gentials is totally hogwash. It's a metaphysical definition regarding the combination of male and female aspects. Originating from Greek poets. Not medical practitioners. Which includes, but is not limited to genitals. The metaphysical hermaphrodites also has secondary sexual characteristics like breasts. Which is why Baphomet is considered a hermaphrodite, despite only having a female upper half.
>>24759859>Old doujins that were listed under "Futanari", would sometimes have vaginas, sometimes not.Listed by western retards. Japs have a word to diferentiate futanaris from girl looking trannies in hentai.
>>24759859>this same fucking retarded argument about 90s/00s futanarilet me guess, you keep repeating that until people believe it? it was debunked in the /d/ threads a long time ago>futanari only means hermaphrodites is an argument that came laterabsolute retardation to the point it might be simply low-effort trolling>>24759874japs call their shemales "newhalves"
>>24757351everybody who's not incredibly insecure drops the pussy because it always just looks fucking disgusting.
>>24759478I'm going to be super-autistic in correcting you here, but for me it was Warcraft 2 & Warhammer Fantasy, not Skyrim.
>>24759874>Listed by western retards.Yes, and? So by westerner's understanding, futanari ends up being a broad term. Are you Japanese? No.>Japs have a word to diferentiate futanaris from girl looking trannies in hentaiNot that I don't believe you. But I want you to name them, so I can obverse what YOU think these words are, and what they mean.>>24759899> it was debunked in the /d/ threads a long time agoWhat part what "debunked"? The part where I said that the term "shemale" and "dickgirl" were often used? The part where I said "futanari" was a burgeoning term? What was debunked?>japs call their shemales "newhalves"You're right, newhalves refer to men who present themselves as women. In order to be a newhalf, you need to be born as a man. But futas are different, because they're not born as a man. Despite if they have a vagina or not, they were not born a man.
>>24759997>this nigger is arguing that being born with a dick but no vagina doesn't make you a man if you have man boobs>then he wonder, why he's being called a trannygynobros, we /futa/ now
>>24758612This is the full sauce for these clips below>>24752560>>24752563>>24752565>>24752568>>24752570
>>24759037>DragonsKeep your arguing to the Futa is Always Bigger thread, that's what it's meant for.>Having a bigger dick means they are dominant and should top>Having a dick makes the pussy obsoleteYou demonstrate how the slippery slope fallacy isn't a fallacy in this case. I don't care that you just want a huge cock to rail you (or that you want to be the tranny doing the railing), but now you're trying to actively change the definitions of words just as you wanted to do with inserting Futadom into Futa is Always Bigger. Defining yourself as correct doesn't make it so.I recommend people ignore him. He's religiously possessed by futa worshipHaving said that I will reiterate what I said here:>>24757841>>24757351There is a middle category of dickgirls (or whatever you want to call them) - a naturally born intersex person having a woman's body and a penis.They are just as fictional as futa are, i.e. they never fully develop into looking like women with a huge cock. Yet if we're going to allow futa to exist we should allow dickgirl too, plus the thread specifies dickgirls.I will add, much to the autismo's chagrin, I do prefer futa with a pussy because. Hyper futa cock is useless, it's hot because the only way for her to have sex is to penetrate her. If you're the kind of person who takes bigger dick tops as gospel, then you could consider it humiliation.
>>24753955Honestly I like futa best when it's as feminine as possible, not counting the fucklust. Hypers, muscle, horsecocks etc are all strict downgrades from a sweet submissive girl, with a dick, with another sweet submissive girl (with or without a dick, preferably without) having wild vaginal intercourse.
>>24760199Bah, my post was deleted. Probably on a technicality. So fine. I won't post a non-animated image. I'll just link to one. Links aren't against the rules. https://prodota.ru/forum/uploads/monthly_2020_07/777025763_.png.de43ec4a9ad6d2a406a98fa51446ded7.png This is what my post said before:"You've probably seen pic related right? Classic anti trans meme. I find it funny. But do *you* find it funny? Do you get the joke? Because the joke only works if the viewer has an understanding that there's more to being female than just a vagina. That you can identify a persons sex by even their mere bone structure. But beyond that, there's different skin structure, different body hair distribution, different fat distribution, different psychological profiles, different ways of thinking, etc.A futanari can be a woman without a vagina, because of all the other characteristics that mark her as female. Of course this only works within fiction. The fiction that says a woman can magically have a penis. Trying to apply realistic logic to this only creates a cognitive dissonance.">>24760477Dude, what? Did you reply to the wrong guy? You quoted "Dragons" from me, and then went on a wild tangent about something completely different. I'm big confused.
>>24760636kill yourself alreadystill trying to subvert a definition solely because you're too retarded to learn its proper usagethe more you go at it, the more retarded you look with all the mental gymnastic you have to use simply to keep going your tranny autism
>>24757351Pussy is best, always, but there's cases where there's no pussy but still clearly a girl. Mostly dick growth on a normal girl, sometimes monstergirl.
>>24760713I'm not trying to subvert a definition. YOU are. I provided evidence of the word being used on a metaphysical level. I provided evidence of the word being used to describe people without externally visible female genital growth. You(or another anon) agreed that the word was used interchangeably by westerners during the early internet. I've denounced real life trannies, and stated that it can only be possible in fictions.I got you beat in every possible way. And the only reason you even began complaining in the first place, was for the fact that people don't agree with your use of the term. That you have fight every thread, trying to get other users to separate vagina futas with no vagina futas.
>>24760779>no vagina futashut the fuck up already, you're mental retardation is apparentyou're like a gorilla with rabies and aids chimping out in quicksand, you just push yourself deeper into it with your bullshit>muh agreed>muh winning argumentsr*ddittor ""intellectual"" mentality, blow it out your own assif you think retarded westerners who can't speak a language were an authority on fucking japanese porn term you really must be room temp IQ in fucking celciussince you are the one bringing these false claims, go find me the proofs of such "interchangeability" and lack of strictness in your 90s/early 00s hentai/doujins. Go scour sadpanda for them, if you find any excuses to not substantiate you're claim you have forfeited any pretensions at being anything but a troll. As for me, a simple search on /d/'s archive on the futa general is enough to find counter-proofs of your made-up bullshit.I like how retards like you go with 2 opposite angle being "muh oldfag actually were retarded and didn't need the pussy"(read the /d/ archives and you will see how wrong you are) and "language change with time and usage because fucking niggers are too lazy to add a pussy to their sfm animation but still use the japanese term for HERMAPHRODISM" (meanwhile fucking sadpanda's and the booru's definition for the tag state that a pussy need to either be present or at the very least not proven to not be there)
>>24760636>Dude, what?If I'm wrong, I'm wrong, but I've argued with you in the Futa is Always Bigger thread thread enough to know you intimately. A different argument doesn't' disguise your method of logic, and your format is also familiar:eg: >>24759997That is to begin the engagement with inflammatory remarks to begin a debate where you can then go through each like with green text quote. You could say that it's a common style of arguing, but that could just be that you argue in a lot of places.Although the one thing working against my assumption is that you didn't rework the quotes.I quoted you for dragons because that was the last thing I brought up when talking to you, and you are the kind of guy not to let things go.The Futa is Always Bigger thread looks pretty dead, so my guess would be that you're branching out to arguing in other places.Perhaps I shouldn't assume that this level of autism is unique to one person. It is very suspect though, and I'm fine with being wrong because you're still being retarded.
>>24760875so he's shitting up other threads too? His shit arguments and general behavior also reminded me of another shitter who been fucking up the general futa thread on /d/. I hoped he killed himself but my condolences to the other threads he ruined.
>>24760841>muh agreedYes, right here. >>24759874 "Listed by western retards">if you think retarded westerners who can't speak a language were an authority on fucking japanese porn term you really must be room temp IQ in fucking celciusOn a western board that caters to English speaking users, the westerners are the authority on the term. English often takes loan words from other languages, and then bastardizes them. Like how café in French simply means coffee. But cafe in English it means an entire restaurant, and we use coffee to mean coffee.But are you telling me that the Japanese are the authority on what hermaphrodite actually means? And not the Greeks who invented the term? If you make the argument for the age of the term, then that would go to the Greeks.>since you are the one bringing these false claims, go find me the proofs of such "interchangeability"I will go search. But I doubt I will find anything, because archives were very sparse back then. I mean, will the wayback machine have the random hentai site I frequented back in 2002? And if they did, will I be able to remember the name of it? So give me some time to actually search.>and lack of strictness in your 90s/early 00s hentai/doujinsTo be clear. I'm not saying the words were interchangeably used *in* the doujins. I'm saying that when websites organized their doujins, they would use the term "dickgirl" or "shemale" to denote the category of chicks with dicks. Futanari was a burgeoning word at the time. Meaning "futanari" was on the quick rise. But still not universally used.>a simple search on /d/'s archive on the futa general is enough to find counter-proofs of your made-up bullshitWhile I search for my proof, I demand you post your proof. Because I asked for a clarification earlier, and you didn't clarify. I would like to know EXACTLY what your mystery proof debunks.
>>24760841>I like how retards like you go with 2 opposite angle being "muh oldfag actually were retarded and didn't need the pussy"(read the /d/ archives and you will see how wrong you are) and "language change with time and usage because fucking niggers are too lazy to add a pussy to their sfm animation but still use the japanese term for HERMAPHRODISM"I like how you claim to know what it was like back in the day, but then you correlate the lack of vaginas in fucking SFM as like this major issue. SFM animations that didn't even get popular until around 2014. You're speaking newfag nonsense.>>24760875>If I'm wrong, I'm wrong, but I've argued with you in the Futa is Always BiggerNope. You guessed the wrong anon. I've never had such an argument in those threads. I haven't had this argument in probably a year or two. And the last time that happened was likely /v/. Also, I don't frequent the futa is bigger threads. I've checked in a few times just scrounging for any futa material I could find. But it's not my regular spot.If you think my talking points sound familiar to some random autist who frequents futa is bigger threads, then it just goes to show that you're kind of a newfag too. Because the vagina/no vagina debate has been happening for years now, and I'm sure I'm not the first person to make these point. There are thousands of other people who think the way I do. But I see what you're doing. I'm making too much sense. So you have to pin me as some kind of super autist in order to win the debate. If you can pin me as some super autist, then I automatically lose of credibility, and you can gleefully dismiss everything I've said. This is such a childish middle school argument tactic.
>>24739653Oh god. Wow
>>24760841oh yeah, and I also want to point out that you say I have a redditor's mentality for concerning myself with "winning" an argument, and then two sentences later, you insist that I gather proof to legitimize my argument. Seems pretty hypocritical for you to care about winning the argument.You also did that really cringe newfag thing, where you sensor the term "redditor". Trying too hard to fit in, bro.
Very useful book, made specifically for the retards ITThttps://e-hentai.org/g/2300241/4cb78263d3/
>>24761083I just love it when artist offer their opinions as "facts", because they can draw cute little infographics for other morons to eat up.Well I don't read Japanese, but I can infer from the graphs that he believes that futanari requires vaginas. But check out page 16. Even he tackles the difference between English and Japanese. And points out that in English girls with no vagina yet with secondary female characteristics like boobs, are considered futa in English.
>>24748192>>24748250I can suspend my disbelief for large insertions and justify it with internal organs and stuff just being extra durable and stretchy, but this "all the way straight through" shit is just too fucking retarded.
>>24759328The problem is it gives an excuse for trannies to claim they are actual women in real life too.>Oh you like that futa girl with a dick but I pussy? Well you might as well like trannies in real life since they are actually women with penises too!
>>24760636It's in no way a "woman" if it doesn't have a womb and ovaries, regardless of physical appearance.
>>24760963>Nope. You guessed the wrong anon.I'll relent that you may simply be as autistic as he was, thus giving you very similar behaviors in that manner.It's nothing to do with your talking point and all to do with the presentation of your words and ideas, and like I said before: autism isn't an insult just a diagnosis.>>24760916I can't say for certain, but the dude's whole MO was arguing. With his proficiency perpetually doing so, I doubt he was just having an argument in one place.The primary similarity is how he sees there being futility in the nature of giving a woman a cock to then have her be able to be fucked:https://desuarchive.org/d/thread/10214822/#q10225303https://desuarchive.org/d/thread/10214822/#q10226328https://desuarchive.org/d/thread/10360512/#q10362818https://desuarchive.org/d/thread/10509276/#q10511193>>24761125Not that anon, but that artists opinion was 90% the same as mineI have to assume there is some validity to it given how we both came to the same defections of these terms while being exposed to two entirely different culture.Here was a deepL translation I did of the infographic:https://desuarchive.org/d/thread/10273828/#q10319265Obviously natural born (fantasy) dickgirls aren't the same as futanari, but neither are they the same as men pretending to be women.>>24761350It's ridiculous to but so is a futa to begin with, and animations of futa are hit or miss in their anatomy, soft-body, and fluid simulationsI do find it hot though, like they've become a human onahole.
Does anyone have the fart sound versions?
>>24761491>I'll relent that you may simply be as autistic as he wasThank you. But for the record: this thread was entirely fine until someone interjected to complain about the lack of vagina. It wasn't me who brought up the topic. I'm just annoyed that one of YOU brought it up, and so snidely. You say I'm autistic to continuing this topic, but I'm only going for as long as you guys are going. Maybe if you weren't trying to autistically defend your little whiny baby posts you made earlier, then you wouldn't have to hear from me.>The primary similarity is how he sees there being futility in the nature of giving a woman a cock to then have her be able to be fucked:Bruh, I made NO SUCH posts. You're confusing me with another anon. 100%, all of those posts you linked are not me, and I wouldn't post them anyway, because they're futa on male which I HATE. And forced feminization, which I also hate. Plus, look at how the guy spaces. He double spaces after the post numbers, as well as excessively double spacing in general. That's not how I post.>I have to assume there is some validity to it given how we both came to the same defections of these terms while being exposed to two entirely different culture.It's not surprising at all. First of all, you put extra importance on his word because he's Japanese and you're a weeb.(this is just a guess, but I bet I guessed correctly) Second of all, he has a pretty decent grasp on English. So even if we don't know what Japanese speakers are saying, he knows what English speakers are saying. He would have a bit of knowledge on English labels. Our cultures would not be so different. Third of all, he's simply pointing out 3 different types of chicks with dicks. 1, crossdresser, 2, pre-op trans, and 3, post-op trans. The distinctions are something any culture would notice. Only the labels are different.
>>24761491Distinguishing between these different types is important. I would also utilize the terms shemale, dickgirl, and trap/crossdresser, if I was being exacting in my description of a person. I do think these terms have a reason to exist. However, when you're speaking about fantasy, it's assumed that a chick with a dick is a chick until proven otherwise. Someone with a penis and no vagina is female, because she looks and acts female. Simple as that. It's fantasy. And any female with a dick is a futanari.The part that really confuses me about the translation, is "Sex differentiation disorders". What is that? And why is it distinct from futanari?
While you retards are fighting I'm going to drop off the objective truth that is 100% fact:Futanari is for deeply closeted homosexuals. Futa with pussy is just cope. It's added there entirely because you are uncomfortable with the idea that the penis you are jerking off to belongs to a man, as penises tend to. When you see cock you get horny, but then are distraught when there's no pussy even though you don't even like pussy or would care about it if it didn't have male genitals obscuring it.Like it's so fucking painfully obvious what's going on here. "Dude lesbian porn is so boring, wheres the cock? Futa porn is actually good because I get to drool over penis. But I'm DEFINITELY NOT gay, I'm just biologically attracted to a fictional thing that doesn't exist."Like 95% of all futa with pussy content that exists doesn't even show the pussy in the first place. It's literally there to quell your insecurities.
>>24761899Actually I just prefer watching more tits during porn
>>24761620Compelling argument, but pretending to be someone else is exactly the kind of thing YOU would do since I said I wasn't going to argue with you anymoreRegardless, you could just argue from the point of view that the thread says it allows futanari and dickgirls, not say that it doesn't matter when it clearly does matter to some people. However you define each term, it's still two termsI put value on his words because he's a hentai artist. The dude clearly has engaged with his fair share of porn. I'm not a weeb, if you want to accuse me of anything it would be confirmation bias.>he's simply pointing out 3 different types of chicks with dicksDid you read the translation? The key thing to acknowledge are the tiers he puts them in: external appearance, gender reassignment, world of fantasy. It's not pre-op and post op.And I don't know why you think he grasps English well, his work is 90% Japanese: https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/100167070>>24761636>it's assumed that a chick with a dick is a chickThe alternative would be to think there is rampant sex changes in the story. I can see why people may think that today, but when I started looking at futa there were hardly any transgenders online. Those were the good days, when people didn't worship porn. Usually you can tell when a hentai artist draws shemale vs dickgirl: fake tits, straight waist, square frame>Sex differentiation disordersI think it means intersex, i.e. a genetic disorder giving people pseudo-hermaphroditism . It's confusing since you need to follow the flow of the image. The key thing to note is the categories he places intersex in at the bottom, outside the categories as it is not something frequent in the porn he draws>Someone with a penis and no vagina is female, because she looks and acts femaleI wouldn't call them female though, if we relate it to modern gender politics: sex is dickgirl, gender is woman. But it's fantasy and people shouldn't be trying to rationalise it
>>24739653FATALITY!
>>24757841>a woman who has converted her pussy into a dick.it's not real there's no need to "convert" anythingit's just a girl with a dicknot a shemalenot a dick "conversion"the insecure retards on both sides of the futa argument are incredible
>>24762192When I say convert, I am referring to media where that happens. A transformation where the character is altered through some supernatural/sci-fi nonsense specific to just her pussyThere are instances where a character is innately a dickgirl, presumably born with a feminine body yet masculine gonads/genitals (technically male), yet from the point of view of the story the character inexplicably has female hormones controlling the rest of her body including her brain. It is a fantasy because that's not something that can happen with the current human anatomy. If she had a pair of balls from birth she would become a man, or if she had a condition preventing androgenisation from the testosterone her balls produce (like a 5-alpha reductase deficiency) she wouldn't have a fully developed cock.That is what it is fantasy character, this would take a lot of medical interventions IRL.The other type of accepted dickgirl is the transformation where her hormones / the rest of her body stay in tact. She now has a fully functioning cock instead of a pussy. Some may also be chimeric futa/dickgirls, merging with another creature (dick TF) or a parasite. Just another specification of a dickgirl as I see it.The definitions shift around a lot between people who have only had learnt it through context and people post shemale, futa, and dickgirl. I'm also included in that, but I haven't seen a cohesive distinction that is widely accepted.
>>24739498Yeah, you, me and the rest of the fruits in this thread.
Well, they kinda are trannys op. Traps, dick girls, whatever you wanna call it
>>24763164Futa is always bigger and futa on male is kino
these threads are always the same videos over and over i don't even know why i bother
>>24763181Fellow man of taste.>>24763368I don't mind making new webms but there's little reason for doing it now since all of the sites that archived /gif/ content are gone.
>>24761083*https://exhentai.org/g/2300241/4cb78263d3/ftfyNekoarashi is a god-tier futa artist, too bad he mostly does pin-ups and not actual manga.@24761125@24760981not giving (you)s anymore since you keep coming back to shit up the thread when you get the 4chanX notificationgo find me the futanari entry in a reputable printed english dictionary and not some shitty online one anyone can edit, you can't because it's not an english word (protip: you wont)>still back his claimsgo put on a fucking trip so anyone with a brain can filter your dirty assalso moving the goalpost since you are proven that japs know the proper usage of the word(big shock, wow) to arguing "futanari" is a different word in english with another meaning while it's not even in english, that's like trying to argue "baka" mean "s m h" in english because english isn't japanese and you saw it on 4chan due to the gookmoot filters@24761620*until someone interjected to correct the definition of futanariftfy, there are people who are simply ignorant of the difference between futanari and shemale, they need to be educatedhowever you on the other, you don't get to fucking say "he started it" when you reply every single time with such low effort shitposting thus ruining the thread further than simply ignoring. I'd like to point out that you've posted absolutely no fucking webm nor gif either, you are just here to shit in this thread and not contriboot>complaining about double spaces>after he says shitting on r*ddit is just fitting in>this nigger doesn't know what a paragraph isI think any lurker can see the light of reason and understand that you're just another autistic troll and that's what matter, there is no hope for such a low-life as you but they can learn from seeing your absolute retardation@24761899>futa with pussy>still implying there are futa without pussyJust argue that shemale is for fags instead of trying to act as someone else to force your nigger-tier definition.
>>24763426>ftfyIntentionally went for the e-h since I doubt a retarded westernfag that calls men futanari has panda
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>>24763727Got a full source for that Ovidius' vid?
>>24761125Yes? What's the issue? Well who are you going to believe, the japs who actually came up with the term or the westerners who bastardized it to involve shemales? Futanari literally refers to hermaphroditism, what does hermaphroditism require? Both genitals, simple as that. I've seen futa artists like DaisyMitsumata correcting westerners because the latter keep getting it wrong.
>>24763761Only place I could find ithttps://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph633dc418ca18b
>>24763871>that high five at the endlol, thanks for the source. Here's something in return:>https://mega.nz/folder/dK0mwLKC#xzk62e6GZzXr4bPw-mCE2w
the thing i hate about western 'futa' is that it's not really futa. there's no 2 in there. they are just males. where is the pussy along with the dick?
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>>24750965Fuck that's good!
>>24761899nah, I think it's just as dudes, because we inherently don't understand what internal sexual gratification is like through female genitalia. It's simpler to grasp pleasure around our male genitalia, that comes from the other characteristics we don’t have to understand internally to enjoy.Even if there is a vagina in these kinds of porn, it’s as an object of *fantasy* utility (penetration) for the real-world, cock-having, fantasiser, because any fantasy persons ‘enjoyment’ of their genitals is entirely subject to being part of that fantasy. The (fictional) pleasure of these imaginary persons is therefore ‘optional’ (or non-existent) and if you don’t know what it’s like to experience sexual gratification through female genitals, can you even ‘imagine’ it to begin with? Do you even need to try if ultimately, the (real-world) non-female fantasiser is the one ‘experiencing’ it? This is what people are really arguing about. They are, in other words, asking this: is it gay for a guy to masturbate because they’re holding a penis the whole time? Or can a man be attracted to a woman without thinking of a cock, foremost, being pleasured? Something to consider, anon.
I been looking for a video i cant find. it a futa receiving a blowjob from a femboy. it was a 500 dollar futa escort. extremly high quality on the animation. the femoy was laying on the bed and futa was standing.
>>24744263Why are you imagining being a massive faggot? might wanna get that checked bro.
>>24748271>Asking a question about why people like certain things, then says I don't prefer huge cocks.But they're saying pander to me? I wonder if you'll even be able to read what im typing lmao. good job showing every anon here that you're a retard
>>24759859I cannot imagine knowing this much useless information about a random fetish and thinking im a normal human being. Bro do you realize how sad you sound? arguing about what you think futa's are?? holy shit. The other guy calling you autistic nailed it.
>>24750965More?
>>24745792turned off my vpn just to beg for sauce
>>24764922CaschLeCookMost of their stuff is up on Rule34:https://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=caschlecook+animated
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>>24745812I like Melonie K's version betterhttps://spankbang.com/6hynn/video/bus+ride
>>24762029>Compelling argument, but pretending to be someone else is exactly the kind of thing YOU would doOh fuck off with this already. I don't care for your paranoia that everyone who shares an opinion is secretly the same anon. If I were to exercise the level of logic you're using, I could claim that everyone arguing against me in this thread is actually just a single anon pretending to be different anons. I'm not replying to 2 or 3 guys. I'm replying to 1 samefag. You see how dumb that would sound? Because you know you're not the other guys. So my accusation just sounds crazy to you.>I put value on his words because he's a hentai artistWhat a coincidence. I'm a hentai artist too. Which is why I know how much you can bullshit by drawing cute images to sell bad ideas. inb4 "post art". No. I already denounced trannies. I would get killed if I made myself public now. But again, it's one of those things where you don't have to believe me, because I know the truth. You can deny I'm an artist, but I know I'm an artist.>But it's fantasy and people shouldn't be trying to rationalise itThis is ultimately what it comes down to. When the viewer sees the lack of vagina, he has to fabricate this backstory for the character, where they're actually born a man and transitioned. There's no reason to assume such a thing happened. Like you say, the author tends to make it clear when the character is female with penis, versus a trans woman. That's why you can just assume a character is female, even with the lack of vagina.>Did you read the translation? Yes>external appearanceAs in clothes and make up. Trapping>gender reassignmentDivided into 2 tiers. One is secondary characteristics like breasts. This can hypothetically be achieved through gyno or homones. Taking hormones doesn't necessarily equate to sexual reassignment. This is also known as pre-op. The second tier is sexual reassignment. Breasts and other feminine features gotten through surgery. AKA post-op.
>>24763426You're a redditor if you think (You)s are actual currency, and that 4chanX is something to be derided. All you're doing, is making my browsing slightly harder. I'm not honoring you with a reply.>>24763840>Futanari literally refers to hermaphroditismThat's a greek term. You say westerners bastardized Japanese. But it's the Japanese who bastardized the greek term. Which was used to describe a metaphysical idea of two genders joining into 1 body. It was not a strict medical term. Rather, it was a poetic one.Also, you and I aren't Japanese. When we search for porn, it's under the categories that English speakers concocted. When we talk about porn, it's with other English speakers. So our understanding of futanari means something different to us. And you can say it doesn't mean something different. But then I would ask why are we having this argument right now? If it was so clearly the one definition that the Japanese made, why do you have to work so hard to get people to see it that way? Keep in mind that dictionaries are not the rule makers, but rather merely records of common usage. We don't say things because the dictionaries tell us that's what it means. No, we create meaning first, and then the dictionaries record it later.
>>24758612God damn
>>24765838>If I were to exercise the level of logic you're using, I could claim that everyone arguing against me in this thread is actually just a single anon Just like you always did.I'm just messing with you at this point, although I did believe you were the other person at the start (as obsessed with futa as he was, I don't doubt he is in this thread). I'm not going to definitely believe one way or another on an anonymous board, and with AI language generation we now have to consider that the person we argue with online may not even be real - it's about ideas, not peopleI write smut, that's a kind of art. If you want you can see all the greentext/shitpost smut I've written: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1TOf0etFHe77KgY92Kf7lkgwlWpPlDvLavnNnG6EiYpk/>There's no reason to assumeI agree, but given the current ideology it's necessary to have definitions for these terms; there didn't use to be as much transgender art as there is nowIf you use the term futa, dickgirl, shemale, and transwoman to mean specific things people won't have to wonder>assume a character is femaleAgain she's not female, I've reconsidered the formulation a littleSex is in the gonads, the human female produces the female gamete - ovaries make ovum. The hermaphrodites' is one who has both ovaries and testes or at least can produce both. If a futa sans balls can impregnate someone, we assume she has internal testes of a unique sex organ that produces both.So the human sexes are male, female, and (in fiction) hermaphrodite. In reality there are boy, man, and transwoman for the gender under male (I see gender as everything resulting from hormones. In men: penis, facial hair, masculine body/brain shape). In fantasy the dickgirl is a male sex with a naturally female gender for all except her genitals. There are some people born with conditions similar to this, but it results in micropenis and testes that don't descend (their hormones were applied to the genitals)
>>24739215>PowerCock + window boobaBest DC contents
>>24765882Same thing anyway
>>24759328>greatly prefer the "futa" to have no vagina because i prefer the more anatomically correct perineum>mistake as newhalf Anon kek…
Its realy simple:If you like dick and balls on a "futa" you are gay or a woman.If you like the female x female action and dont care about the dick in the frame you are a lesbian or a man.This Schrödingers dickgirl debate feels sometimes older then /d/ itself.Lets us agree its futa until the ballveil is moved.If there is no pussy its a man with tits (a trannies (even the word trannies can be debated to be outdated becouse trans people arnt realy transitioning from anything anymore and just sit on there butts collecting victim points))
@24765838@24765882>this nigger came back>contributions to the threads goes to zero>shitposting goes to the maxreally make me think
>>24766740>Lets us agree its futa until the ballveil is movedThis was always the case for me, more often than not it was the lack of pussy that defined the futanari rather than the opposite as nothing can prevent someone from imagine what could be hidden.
>>24766942>nothing can prevent someone from imagine what could be hidden.its like its in our head or something and we just having fun imagen beeing a futa or been fucked by one.I like futa becouse i dont like watching a man (that isnt me) fuck a woman.It also helps that futa has a high quantity quality ratio.Its something for everyone but thx to people like OP we back at divide and troll for no reason then being bussy.
>>24743972I like the giant dicks/tits/balls but a lot of artists really do take it too farit's one thing if it's like a fetish for hyper (because I can admit it's subjective) but it really does feel like people just have porn/body power creepa lot of the 3D artists for this fetish seem to legit just be upping the ante all the time, like salamandraninja, nyl2 and rigid3d
>>24766942one of the hottest futanari artist I have ever seen. Too bad Sleepy_b does not make more videos :/
>>24765838>>gender reassignment>As in clothes and make up. TrappingThe artist specifies it's not to do with clothing, they use 'trap' to mean femboy>Divided into 2 tiers.Are you making the specification? that isn't made in the graph. While I agree there are two different methods of transgenderism, both end up with a cosmetic appearance of the opposite sex. Even bottom surgery is cosmetic (and also gross, why would someone ruin a nice pussy or cock?)What the topic has mostly been about is the fantasy tier futa and dickgirl are in how it relates to shemale/transwomen. Transgender is different to real life intersex, and intersex is different to a theoretical human hermaphrodite as they fail to develop both types of gonads. A sex change operation involving the implantation of functional gonads would be trans sex, but it would also technically be a chimera (the genetics of a different human within the person). >>>/d/10575369Since we keep referring to it I translated the image from here >>24761083and added my own specifications since the Japanese culture isn't engaged in the same gender ideology that has become common in the West (while I'm not a fan of it, I think it's likely to stick around so I have spent the time to rationalise the categories)(the same image on my google drivehttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1JB1kUDdwcZ6yqLpBnmJkkHaaqxv9fdmE/view?usp=sharing )
Literally every single Futa thread inevitably has idiots come in and question other people's sexuality. And every time someone takes the bait. Just ignore them and move on with your life.
>>24768079Where did you get this from? I couldn't find it on kemono or rule34xxx.
>>24742516Me too, but only the physical proportion of the women and the futas. The amount of cum? Excessive please. No balls? Yes.
>>24768956I've had it saved for quite a while. Might be buried in the creator's twitter account.
>>24745797Omg i been trying to find this one for years, sauce?
just call these threads "dickgirl" or "futanari and shemale" next timealso big is fine, so is huge but hyper retarded is still retarded; it's too goofy to be taken seriously
>>24742516>>24743972Agreed.
>>24769629Sauce?
>>24769601https://www.newgrounds.com/art/view/nikcesco/kns-42Artist name is "Nikcesco".
>>24769729It's sleepy_b>>24769629It already had 'dickgirl' in the title. People either didn't read it or didn't know what that means.
>>24766520i don't care. It's all the same.
>>24769629i hate when people call it animated shemale porn because shemales are just trannies, and when a female character like Samus has a penis and no visible vagina, she doesn't suddenly become a tranny, she just becomes a dickgirl, futa, whatever you want to call her. She's a canonically female character. A shemale character would have to be canonically a transgender guy.
>>24764090Fucking this. Western artists apropriated the word 'futa' and ruined its real meaning to hide their closeted homo tendencies.
>>24769973calling it "futanari AND dickgirl" is like having an "orange and fruit" thread on /ck/ kind of retardation>>24770030shemale is the correct word for a human with a dick that look like a female but doesn't also have a pussy, him getting his tits from magic, birth or surgery doesn't matter to be called a shemale. sexually it's a male since it has a dick and no pussy, I don't care if it make it gay it won't stop me from fapping to either shemales nor futanari; if anything it is insecurity that make people like you try to come up with mental gymnastic to look away from this fact, just accept it and move on or ignore it to begin with unless you base your sexuality on fucking peer presurealso canonical female characters don't have fucking penis to begin with so at best it's a partial gender-bender ie transgenderism by definitioninb4 Poisoncanon trannyinb4 Bridgetcanon trap/otokonoko, which mean he doesn't even pretend being female even if he look like itinb4 Crimcanon futanari, has a confirmed vaginathe whole cope with the "shemale at birth" is beyond ridiculous to begin with and would need an actual lore/backstory to back it up which basically none of the western shemale animation does
>>24745809Source?
>>24771443Genuine newfag moment. Lmfao
Less rambling, more lady dicks, please. Balls, pussy or otherwise. Give us the goods
>>24771443Just kys now
>>24772708Artist name pls
>>24771188>shemale is the correct word for a human with a dick that look like a female>that look like a femaleThis doesn't happen in real life.
>>24771443boku no pico
>>24773730Spazkid
The only one that's actually a shemale is Poison.
>>24773905Shut up. Post more pics and vids
>>24773730Spazkid and shadman
>>24759037It's not gay to like a hermaphrodite because they are not men. End of story you fucking retard
>>24771443Bible BlackDon't watch an anime called boku no pico>>24771188There are people who also treat 'futanari' as the category rather than dickgirl.This has nothing to do with sexuality Anon, but since you brought it up I'll give you the rundown:Passive sexuality is things that arouse you, active sexuality is the act of fucking. Getting turned on by something mostly feminine is straight, fucking a dude that looks like a woman is gay (you can't reproduce with him)Porn isn't an act of sex, but depending on how/why you enjoy futa determines how gay you are subconsciously/passively; woman + woman with dick = most straight, solo woman with dick because you don't want to see a man = also straight, gazing at her cock while you salivate over the thought of sucking it = gayWe should break the words down to their core meaning since people are confusing terms so much:SHEMALE: male who wants to be identified as a 'she', a social woman. Included under trans woman, but not undergoing bottom surgery and often lacking hormones to feminise his brainDICKGIRL: a girl, feminine gender, with a dick, the core of the masculine gender. The dick defines the gender of man, boy, and transwoman; to have a dick and be a girl would be a contradiction. It would make sense for that to be the category, but the counterpart of a dickgirl is a cuntboy which no one would insist includes masculine hermaphroditesFEMBOY: boy gender, what one may call a cis-male, but feminineFUTANARI: Japanese for hermaphrodite, but in English context it adopts the meaning of feminine hermaphrodite similar to how 'hentai' means anime porn, or 'anime' means Japanese cartoon.You can see the different categories in the general meaningSex: maleGender: girl boy dickTraits: femCulture: sheWe shouldn't ignore the morphemes making up a word, just in the way 'gender' shouldn't come to mean identity/behaviorIf all you care about is feminine bodies and penis, not the inner workings, use 'GirlDick'
Same damn arguments every single thread. Please. Just shut the fuck up and post WEBM's.
>>24774787is that even futa?
>>24774990
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>>24775103
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>>24750250this is the most well done parody porn i've ever seen
>>24775207>>24775207
>>24737468Sauce?
>>24773798Good thing it's all fiction then right anon? That's what people don't understand. It's fucking porn. Let people suspend their disbelief that women with giant cocks and balls can exist. They can in fiction. The fact that people can't wrap their heads around this and just scream "tranny" shows how much the average hater of this shit isn't able to abstractly think about anything Literally being unable to understand and wrap your mind around it denotes low IQ.
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>>24753210because actual futanari looks retarded and is at best, a mutation. Dick girls took over because of that fact. Its just more aesthetic to have balls there.
>>24776285Futanari can have balls too, the pussy is just under/behind them
>>24773976A futa isn't a man with or without ballsNo tranny actually passes and a futa is canonically an actual woman everywhere but the cock
>>24777080Ghost blowjobWOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>24776285>mutationnot knowing the difference between fiction and reality is a sign of low IQinb4 intersexgenetic freaks that are defacto just males/females with limited androgyny, prove me wrong by posting one with both genitals that are the result of surgery but nature since I have yet to seen one before and I tried to look for itthe truth is that there isn't any irl hermaphrodite(for humans obviously) and the closest thing you can find is trannies or roid up females with big clits; you still need to ignore that fact otherwise the futanari/herm fantasies go away
>>24776145I agree, but shemale is an rl term, which seems to have been the point of the argument.
>>24750250goddamn
>>24771188so if Samus had a spell zapped at her and it took her pussy away and replaced it with a penis, she's now a guy?
>>24742516yeah dicks within the realm of possibilities are way better
>>24737462>>24737468sfmnewbie has been making really good stuff lately. I think he's finally finding his place in the futa/dickgirl porn community.
>>24779105i really hope Nyl2 continues to do more dickgirl_on_dickgirl action. I want to see big sweaty girl balls hit against each other. No homo.
>>24778751it's gender-bender so yeah that Samus is a biological male who look like a female ie a shemale
>>24778751>no pussy>has penisYeah, Samus would become a tranny.
>>24778138oh my gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood who fucking cares
>>24755421Infinite loops are so shit it's not even funny.
>>24759719>>24759859>>24759997>>24760199>>24760477>>24760713>>24760779>>24760841>>24760875>>24760927Faggots who won't shut up. Just post your porn so we can all jerk off mkay?
>>24777073>>24777077>>24777080>>24777087Good shit
>>24779187no, she would just be a girl who has lost her vagina and now has a male reproductive organ.>>24779230no, because trannies are just men or women larping as the opposite. Everyone in this thread is wrong, I am right, cope, seethe, dilate, etc.
>>24759380No, they're imaginary porn hermaphrodites that predate the modern trans movement.
Holy shit you guys are fucking stupid.Lets just agree that words evolve overtime and that for most people "futa" refers to any kind of animated dickgirl holy shit.I get most of you have no lives besides jerking off on 4chan but get a religion or something if you want to get this passionate about the meaning of terms for things that don't exist.
it's quite simple reallyfutanari means having both a vagina and penisshemale, dickgirl, newhalf, transgender, etc. all have a penis but no vagina
>>24761435Who gives a fuck? Anybody who would claim I should like "2X" just because it's similar to the "x" I like is an idiot. Regardless of what trans people are, your tastes often have little to do with your actual, real life tastes. Look at all the men who enjoy certain body types in porn, but don't find them attractive in real life.
>>24774990It's not, Anon is a dummy, he posted the non-futa version on a futa thread.https://twitter.com/KYARO05978696/status/1560550099180085249
>>24779754>cope, seethe, dilate,I think that's at the crux of itWhile it's likely the case that some people started out with different definitions based on observation or misinformation (I use to treat futa as all girl dick havers), the people who care enough to not just use the mainstream one are the transwoman.They are getting off on people liking something that they classify as themselves, a male with tits, and it cucks them to know that people don't see it that way. For me it's about females being corrupted by lust, the idea that if these characters (or women in general) had a cock they would become horny to the point they behave like animals. Preserving their female anatomy, having hormones that make them still feminine in body and brain, is a core part of that.>>24779958This is devolution, not evolutionPeople who are too dumb to have these different concepts in their head, or even part reality from fantasy/role-play - merging all similar terms into a single thing of 'girl dick'Unless they are posting themselves in a tranny or femboy thread (and don't look like an ogre), I am not getting off to themYou will never be a real futa. You have no pussy beneath your balls, your cock isn't a over a foot long, your breasts are small and/or fake, your brain is submissive, woman don't lust over you for your virility, and no one is impressed by the volume of your loads. You're not a futa, and you're not even a dickgirl. At best you can call yourself a shemale or a tranny, but only in your fantasies will you be a futa(the only place where futa and dickgirl currently exist)
>>24780025If she has a dick, why would you need or want a vagina as well?
https://gofile. io/d/zY7yp0
>>24771188sauce?
>>24780025source?
>>24776245Sounds like a fucking washing machine
>>24782124cute.
>>24772708>>24774178>>24759328Futa?
>>24770010>herms give birth and strong female smell>sameNope.
>>24766329I had to take a break, because frankly you out-autismed me, and I didn't have the patience to continue the argument. But now I'm back, and I have some things to say.>I write smut, that's a kind of art.I value writers as artists. I've yanked to futa stories before, and will probably do it again. However, I won't click on your link, because I'm signed into my account, and don't wish to be exposed. Regardless, I believe you're an artist. So from artist to artist, you have to know that a lot of us are just as susceptible to bad ideas as anyone else. Just because we make a cute little friendly comic that expresses our ideas, that doesn't make us an authority.>If you use the term futa, dickgirl, shemale, and transwoman to mean specific things people won't have to wonderIf you call a dog a dog, nobody is going to become disgruntled that you didn't specify the breed. Like "woooow, you said this was a dog thread, but I see a bunch of dingo photos. Technically, dingoes aren't dogs, they're canines". Everyone is just going to roll your eyes, because dingoes are cute and nobody cares about such a distinction.The term "futa" is equivalent to the term "dog". In that, it encompasses a bunch of different subcategories. And it even encompasses things that aren't dogs. For example, if you show a toddler a photo of a wolf, he's going to point at it and say "dog". Because basic pattern recognition marks wolves so similar to dogs, that they might as well be the same.>Again she's not female. Sex is in the gonadsOne's genitals are a result of one's chromosomes. If you have XX Chromosomes, you develop female genitalia. If you have XY chromosomes, you develop male genitalia. Thus, in the order of events: your sex is decided first, and your genitals are decided later as you form into a whole baby. If, for whatever fantastical reason, a person is born without a vagina, that doesn't mean she didn't get female chromosomes. Because the fantasy element is in play.
>>24766329>>24782554The fantasy element can force biology to work in magical ways. Where a hiccup in chromosomes can produce a woman without a vagina. She's still a woman, because she's XX, but she simply doesn't have a vagina because "It's magic bitch. I ain't gotta explain shit." And this is how most people interpret futa. Where the impossible happened, due to fantasy elements. A woman was born with a dick and without a vagina because magic.
>>24771188They've retconned/changed Bridget, she's officially transgender now. No longer considers herself a boy.
>>24782602>character backstory bad ending
>>24780334>This is devolution, not evolutionThere is no advantage in your way of thinking. As it only causes you to worry about stuff that can easily be ignored. You don't like futas without vaginas? Then just look away. Keep scrolling. But as you are, you're expending a lot of emotion thinking about what trannies care about. And that to me is crazy, because I literally never witness what trannies do. I don't know what gets them off. I mean, sure, maybe everything you say about them wanting to pass as futas is right. But I would never know, because when I encounter trannies stuff, I just get mildly disgusted and look away.You're so obsessed with current day identity politics, that you're hounding all of us sane people to change are verbiage. It's insanity.
>>24779754in your made up world where pussy-less dickgirl exist, humans life can't be sustain without someone with a pussy; if you put a shemale next to a female or a herm, there is no fucking way the shemale isn't a male and thus a shemalea "girl who has lost her vagina and now has a male reproductive organ" is quite by definition the result of a sex change which mean it's a tranny, even if it wasn't by choice that facts stay the same>>24779958>for most peopleI think you mean for people who couldn't fucking lurk hard enough to understand a basic conceptalso if you have no passion about the topic you can always shut your little nigger mouth off instead of pretending to be a "totally not caring yet still giving his wrong opinion" type of samefag
>>24782651>There is no advantage in your way of thinkingyes there is, maybe because it doesn't just fucking make "futa" a useless fucking word by inserting trannies/shemales in it?with your retarded mentality what word is there for a proper hermaphrodite in the context of japanese hentai? oh shit maybe the fucking japanese word for hermaphrodite? oh no sorry, I forgot you're too much of a dumb nigger to differentiate between shemales and futanarigod I sure enjoy words meaning less and shit being more ambiguous because newfags like you couldn't be bothered to read the definition of a word before misusing it AND trying to pretend it's the correct way to use it
>>24782661>is quite by definition the result of a sex change which mean it's a trannyYou're conflating real life with fantasy again. In real life, men mutilate their vaginas to pretend they're female. In fantasy, magic is capable of isolating one specific part of a human being, and altering it without any consequences to their birth.
>>24782554>The term "futa" is equivalent to the term "dog". In that, it encompasses a bunch of different subcategories. And it even encompasses things that aren't dogs. For example, if you show a toddler a photo of a wolf, he's going to point at it and say "dog". Because basic pattern recognition marks wolves so similar to dogs, that they might as well be the same.yeah and if you call a wolf a fucking dog if you aren't a toddler, ie a mentally inapt being, I would call you a fucking retard and rightfully so>Everyone is just going to roll your eyes, because dingoes are cute and nobody cares about such a distinctionmaybe this is the case if you are around retards, but no one in their right mind would refute this fact unless they are in the dunning-kruger peak of arrogant retardationthe "dingoes are cute" isn't a fucking argument, you're fucking feelings doesn't change the definition of a word just because you are too retarded to understand what a canine is
>>24782689When you read "futa", you know that you're getting a character who is a woman with a dick. Therefore, the word has use.>with your retarded mentality what word is there for a proper hermaphrodite in the context of japanese hentai?Like I stated in previous posts, the word hermaphrodite comes from the Greeks, and they used it as a metaphysical idea. That's how most people use it in the west. So when you and I(westerners) talk to each other, we have the western concept of hermaphrodite. Which encompasses many variations of combination of men and women.>because newfags Bruh, I've been fapping to futanari since like 2002. Before 4chan even existed. We've always been able to distinguish those with and without a vagina by just looking. If you want to see futa with vaginas, then say "futas with vagina" or somesuch.
>>24782693if there was magic irl and people were using it to change sex, they would still be trannies at the end of the day especially if they only change their genitals and not the rest of their body. if they got dicks and look like females they are shemales, if the opposites they are cuntboysif they change their body too then it become gender-benderpoint is as long they aren't hermaphrodites, they aren't futanari, the way their sex change happened doesn't matter
>>24782739>character who is a woman with a dickthat fucking word is "dickgirl", when you read "futanari" you expect a fucking hermaphrodite>metaphysical ideaARE YOU FUCKING RETARDED? OH SHIT NIGGER I GUESS FUCKING SNAILS ARE METAPHYSICAL BEINGS NOW>muh oldfagshut the fuck up nigger, if you had live for longer than 12years you'd know the tagging system on panda, pixiv and the boorus where 98% of all the hentai porn is hosted onit's so obvious that you're just saying random shit without knowing anything, you were asked proofs earlier and you couldn't even fucking deliver. just kill yourself already
>>24782727>yeah and if you call a wolf a fucking dog if you aren't a toddler, ie a mentally inapt being, I would call you a fucking retard and rightfully soYes, I believe you would say that, because you're that guy that everyone hates because of his autistic need to correct everyone around him, when we all know what we're talking about, and there's no miscommunication among us.>but no one in their right mind would refute this factNo one is going to deny it. But they're going to sigh heavily at the fucking killjoy in the room. It's like square and rectangle logic. All squares are rectangles, but not all rectangles are squares. All futanari are chicks with dicks. But not all chicks with dicks are futanari. Those who are trans are not futanari. But those without a vagina are not necessarily trans. Do you follow?
>>24782747>if there was magic irl and people were using it to change sex, they would still be trannies at the end of the dayThey still have xy chromosomes, only now their vagina is missing. Thus, they're a woman without a vagina.
>>24782739Full package all the way
>>24782776>that fucking word is "dickgirl", when you read "futanari" you expect a fucking hermaphroditeNot most people, no. They don't read futanari like that.>ARE YOU FUCKING RETARDED? OH SHIT NIGGER I GUESS FUCKING SNAILS ARE METAPHYSICAL BEINGS NOWAll caps to disguise your lack of argument.>>muh oldfagYou called me a newfag. Now you're chastising me because I'm claiming to be an oldfag? You're flip flopping. Which is it? Does age matter or doesn't it? It seems to change depending on which suits your argument in the moment.>you'd know the tagging system on panda1. They're not an authority.2. You can search "futanari" and find vagina-less characters on their site.3. Their tagging system is outdated. They don't even have many current popular tags. And their stupid syntax system makes it difficult to combine tags you want.>pixivNo comment. I don't use pixiv.>the boorusThey all have different tagging rules. For example, some boorus don't even allow you to search "female", because they think it's "too generic" of a category.(actual statement from an admin) Thus, you're forced to use the retarded 1girl, 2girl, 3girl system. Which was devised by some Japanese website, and carried over to western boorus by fucking weebs who think that everything the japanese do are sacred. They're like "NOOOO, YOU CAN'T JUST TYPE 'FUTANARI FEMALE' AND GET EVERYTHING YOU'RE LOOKING FOR. YOU HAVE TO TYPE IN THE EXACT NUMBER OF WOMEN YOU WANT". And then when I explain that futanari doesn't require number amounts to search, they just tell me I'm being unreasonable and close the conversation.And again, you can search "futanari" and discover futas without vaginas on the boorus.>you were asked proofs earlier and you couldn't even fucking deliverMy bad. I felt like it wasn't really necessary, since you were making a bunch of weak arguments before. I also asked you to post your supposed counter proof, and you never delivered.
>>24776245which one is this?
>>24782360Dickgirl, shemale, or femboy, can't tellDickgirlDickgirl TF (possibly a fantasy as it's the same character)Dickgirl is allowed, but maybe the OP thought that meant pussy only>>24782554You have the authority over your own art, mine just relies on the meaning of a word. I'm only speaking about the definitions as I see and use them, akin to debating the meaning of an artwork. I can describe the character / use their names, but I tend to write random encounters so it's good to have a term to call themIf people don't like my definitions, they can ignore. I'm not making a dictionary here (although with the amount of times I've had this argument)The category doesn't as matter as much as the specific since it's a specific individual I'm referring to. Sites have different tags, akin to different porn-English dialectsTo me futa is equivalent to woman:Male, female, hermaphrodite = sexMan, woman, futa ('woman' hermaphrodite) = genderI redefine sex separating the genitals (because of arguing with LGBT+ activists), since it is only the gonads that are the direct results of XY or XX (specifically SRY protein which can lead to XX males)Genes differentiate the gonads, gonads make the hormones, hormones instruct the penis or vagina (there are male who have vaginas because of 5α-Reductase deficiency preventing T absorption), and hormones shape boys into menGonads are the sex because they are the thing most needed for sexual reproduction>>24782586It can, but not everyone agrees on the basic terms.The nature of fantasy means it can be whatever we want. I have written a few different worldbuilding scenarios where futa / dickgirl are ZX and ZY>>24782651I gotta write some terms for them, and I've seen enough to get an idea of what gets them offI'll argue in the chastity thread about the meaning of humiliation, and I'll argue in the futa thread about the meaning of the sex/gender goddammit. Mostly I just piggy back of the arguments others want to start
>>24782860im pretty sure the OG is called lewd christmas.
>>24782897I found that one, but i can't find the futaxfuta version
>>24782897>>24782908nevermind, found it
>>24782776>>24782852Here's some proof that futanari and shemale were used interchangably back in the day. This link is from 2006. There was once a popular futanari forum called "futanari palace". I think it's still going actually. And well, it was founded after an older futanari forum died. I forget the name of the previous forum. It was something like "F2" or "F3". Again, we're talking like 18-20 years ago. So memory is fuzzy. But the older forum was actually a subsidiary of a more legit safe for work forum. When the parent forum died, the futa section died with it. And it spawned off 2 successors. They existed side by side like Coca-Cola and Pepsi. One being F3, which I think was named after F2? Something like that. And then the other being Futanari Palace, which ended up being the more popular one.You can find record of F3 from Something Awful. Check it out: https://www.somethingawful.com/weekend-web/futanari-ronpaul-hiddentemple/1/Notice that how even though the forum is called "F3", short for Futanari, the guys at something awful vary their language up by using both the terms futa and dickgirl interchangeably. And you might be thinking "well, they're not real futa fans, so they don't care about the specifics". To that I say, look at the posts they're mocking. The futa addicts are using futa, dickgirl, and shemale interchangeably too.Now check out this linkhttps://web.archive.org/web/20061211005100/http://thelifeofsara.pbwiki.com/It's the personal webpage to the guy who created futanari palace. https://web.archive.org/web/20061210134231/http://www.futanaripalace.com/This guy was a super autist, but used his powers for good. Providing us a great place to hang out and discuss futanari and exchange free doujins and scans and translations. He was a large contributor to all that. "The life of sara" was his own little world he crafted. But notice that as big of a futa fan he was, he also uses futa and shemale interchangeably.
>>24782852This is cope.Futanari has always been about true hermaphrodites .The butchered shemale/futa Version was created by leftoids and trannies because they needed to make everything be about them.If you see someone referring to a futanari as a shemale, know it is a leftoid tranny minority, and that person should not only be shamed but killed too.
>>24782783go to r*ddit if being a normalfag is all that matter to you, if you speak with someone that care about his stuff he will expect you to have a minimum of knowledge and rigoractually this says a lot about you if people in your entourage are double digit IQ retards@24782794>xy chromosomes>woman>>24782852you were called a newfag because you couldn't be bothered to lurk before posting, newfag>You can search "futanari" and find vagina-less characters on their siteNot if the gallery is correctly tagged, "shemale" is the pussy-less dickgirl tag>"futanari" and discover futas without vaginas on the boorushttps://danbooru.donmai.us/wiki_pages/futanari.htmlhttps://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=wiki&s=view&id=1you are worthless, you should kill yourself nowalso pixiv being a japanese site mean they are a much bigger authority than western sites on it, also it's the biggest place online for japanese artists that has a tagging system(thus excluding twitter and dl site)https://dic.pixiv.net/en/a/futanari>Futanari is a term referring to a person who has both male and female genitals>Sometimes, "Shemale", "Trap", etc. are mistaken for "futanari" and put in the tag. Oh god, seem like you're little nigger ass got proven wrong. AGAINnow kill yourself and stop trolling this thread
>>24782966Take a bath and quit stinking up the thread with your autism you absolute retard, nobody who isn't an omegasperg cares about this sort of inane bullshit. Kill yourself if you disagree, you are clearly dysfunctional and useless to the gene pool
>>24782939>western site>western site>western siteI like how none of your fucking link actually prove your fucking pointEven if you found proper links,back then people were passing shitty mtl and bad translations as legit work, also using public forums isn't a good fucking arguments especially since they are uneducated faggots everywhere just like you. people wised up and learnton top of this, futanari is a fucking japanese word, where are your japanese sources?
>>24782966>you were called a newfag because you couldn't be bothered to lurk before posting, newfagSheesh, you don't even know how to use the term newfag.I checked the Gelbooru and Danbooru links. In both cases, they do not say that no-vagina futas aren't futas. Look at the language. They say "If you can visually confirm the lack of a pussy/vagina, tag newhalf". Did you notice what word was missing from that sentence? "Instead". If you're correct, then the sentence should read like this: " If you can visually confirm the lack of a pussy/vagina, tag newhalf instead". But no, they didn't say that. They're saying that you should tag newhalf *in addition* to tagging futanari.>PixivA Japanese site with different standards. But again, Hermaphrodite is a Greek/western term. And it's a metaphysical idea. Which is how westerners(you and I) comprehend it. Not in the way the Japanese understand it. I've now posted proof that westerners used the term interchangeably for a long time. >>24782939>>xy chromosomes>womanThat was a typo, genius.
>>24782108sauce?
>>24783028>get proven wrong with fucking sources>cries and ad hominem as he ran out of material to troll the thread withyou should take your fucking advice and kill yourself first instead of pretending about not caring yet replying
>>24782092if only we had technology capable of this id def fuck myself to see whats its like
>>24783041>Japanese>Japanese>JapaneseWe're not on a Japanese website. I wouldn't go to Pixiv and yell at them for using futanari the way they do.(even it's it's fucking stupid) So why would you go to a western website and yell at us for using futanari the way we do? I can hear it already: "Futanari is a Japanese term". Again, it means Hermaphrodite, which is a Greek term.
>>24783050>they do not say that no-vagina futas aren't futas>If you can visually confirm the lack of a vagina, tag newhalf>When in doubt use the futanari tag instead>Visually similar to futanari with penis and testicles but no vagina. That is to say, the character has a female body but male sex organs.>Newhalf is a Japanese slang term for a pre-op or non-op male-to-female transexual. Also known as "shemale" (シーメール). how funny how everything you say is false>his fucking metaphysical bullshit again>westerners aren't allowed to use the word hermaphroditeonce again kill yourself for uttering such blatant fake bullshit and then stop fucking "futanari" since you aren't able to comprehend it
>>24783057You're lost my man. I'm not even the guy you were arguing with. You're just retarded enough that most people here disagree with you and would rather you stop whining about shit that doesn't matter.
>>24783065>>24783050>>24783041>>24782966could both of you shut the fuck up and just post some webms?
>>24783057And there it is, you don't know how to socialize. When I say "nobody cares" I mean "nobody cares to hear you whining, so shut up".Stop being a sperg. Talk to human beings and learn to be a functional person who doesn't freak out over tiny porn distinctions on 4chan.org or just an hero. Or just fap my nigga, so many things can be done with your life that are better than this autistic tirade of yours.
>>24783065>Japanese term ふたなり, which translates to "dual form" and often used to refer to hermaphroditism.>Within Japan it is also written as "futanari", "sosei", "nisei", and "dimorphism".>The word "Hermaphrodite" is taken from Hermaphroditus, the androgynous god in Greek mythology. >In reproductive biology, a hermaphrodite (/hərˈmæfrəˌdaJt/) is an organism that has both kinds of reproductive organs and can produce both gametes associated with male and female sexes.
>i don't carethen don't reply, simple as, you fucking retarded niggeror pretending otherwise
>>24783115You continue to misunderstand basic human communication, but that's expected because you're a low functioning porn addict
>>24783082>>When in doubt use the futanari tag instead>Visually similar to futanari with penis and testicles but no vagina. That is to say, the character has a female body but male sex organs.>Newhalf is a Japanese slang term for a pre-op or non-op male-to-female transexual. Also known as "shemale" (シーメール). Huh? Which page are you quoting? I can't find any of those phrases in either of three links you posted. Where did you get all that from?Also, looking again at the danbooru page, I noticed that futanari has the "general" tag type. And that underneath, it lists newhalfs as one of the types of futanari. So quite literally, the Danbooru page agrees with me that no vagina fantasy characters count as a type of futanari. And Gelbooru too.>>westerners aren't allowed to use the word hermaphroditeIt's not that we aren't allowed. We simply don't.
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>>24783106>>The word "Hermaphrodite" is taken from Hermaphroditus, the androgynous god in Greek mythology.Way to prove me right. The Japanese term relates to the Greek term. Earlier you argued that it was the west misunderstanding Japanese terms. But I say it's the Japanese who misunderstood the west. Using "Futanari" to mean hermaphrodite as westerners understand it, makes perfect sense for westerners.
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>>24783082Looking into it further, it appears that your own sources disagree with you.>An extension to futanari, possessing no pussy/female genitalia. That is to say, the character has a female body but male sex organs.>An extension to futanari>An extension to futanari>An extension to futanarihttps://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=wiki&s=view&id=1190So think carefully about how you can spin this.
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>>24783129actually you are right, but I checked the history of the page and it seem retards changed it over the years to introduce shemales in it and there has been an edit warif anything the 2006 version, the very first one had a correct definitionhttps://danbooru.donmai.us/wiki_page_versions/4378which prove that people back then knew how to differentiate futanari from shemaleif you need more proofs, I got two of the biggest and oldest otaku-related database that has futanari tags>https://vndb.org/g413>This tag was initially submitted by an anonymous user on 2009-04>https://anidb.net/tag/2429>created 2010-09-19 00:54
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>>24783204>spin thisretarded master-slave tags organization, but I'll admit I don,t use the boorus since it's just reposts from pixiv and twitter most of the timehttps://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=8316368 is tagged "futanari" so I guess the trannies won and we can rename the 3d shemales/trannies threads to "futanari" nowsomehow you fags keep ignoring pixiv, the one fucking site that has an actual detailed wiki page on the term and that is japanese and thus closer to the origin
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how come the thread is always shit during aussie and west coast hours while it's decent and harmonious during european and east coast hours?
>>24783041>also using public forums isn't a good fucking arguments especially since they are uneducated faggots everywhere just like youI take issue with this, because for a long time, Futanari Palace and F3 were actually *sources* to a lot of futanari scans that made it to the web. It was also an active place for writers. Boasting the largest collection of futanari erotica for a while. And many futanari artists use to post there like Dmitrys. Earlier pre-SMF animators like Sircus. It was a hotbed of futanari activity, and thanks to it, the fetish was cultivated to what it is today.>>24783333>the very first one had a correct definitionHuh. That's interesting. Because both danbooru and vndb suggests that a character can appear totally masculine, but as long as he has both genitals, then he's a futanari. So their definition is a little odd. Because it's brings us to the age old debate of "would you rather fuck Bailey Jay or buck angel?" When you think of futanari, do you envision a masculine looking character who happens to have a vagina behind his cock? Probably not.So right off the start, these are bad definitions. As they don't truly embody the idea of a futanari.I have to be signed into anidb to see their page, which I'm not. So no comment there.
>>24782939What the word meant to people years ago is less relevant than what it means in another language today (which is also irrelevant) There's no reason for these all to mean the same thing, and again I have to assume a lot of this is determined by transwomen (males) wanting people to get off to them (studies show that males who like androgynous porn also tend to be autogynephilic, which also happens to also align with transgenderism)And there's no denying that dudes would do this kind of thing since there are transwoman trying to be portrayed as real woman with some of them getting off on being in woman's only spaces all because it's a fetishWhile all these terms are similar, they can only be used interchangeably in a cute/roleplay/fictional similar to calling a femboy 'boy' when he's really in his twenties. A male could theoretically become a trans futanari or become a trans dickgirl (defining both those as the fantasy, natural born things), but this is role play just as it is with transwomen. He (and all of us) should be aware that the fictional categories of a woman born with a penis or a feminine hermaphrodite with both sets of genitals aren't real things he can become.Even though I write smut I don't always write about something I want to experience, sometimes things that would be hot to see. The transgender person is someone who wants to play out their fantasy rather than make art from it (which is again different to drag, a performance art)>>24783393Cause no one care about our politics, so the only thing we can argue about online is international gay shit
>>24783370>so I guess the trannies won and we can rename the 3d shemales/trannies threads to "futanari" nowYou might think of Samus with a penis as a "tranny", but none of us do. We all know Samus is female, and there's nothing you can do to change our minds on that, even if you take away her vagina, she's still a hyper feminine character.>somehow you fags keep ignoring pixivI've addressed it many times already. It just doesn't sink into your thick skull.Futanari is a term derivative of Hermaphrodite. Hermaphrodite is a western term. The way japanese understand hermaphrodite, and the way the west understands hermaphrodite are two different things. So when you use a Japanese website, you use it the way that suits their culture. And when you come to a western website(4chan), you use it in the way that suits western culture.
>>24783437>What the word meant to people years ago is less relevant than what it means in another language today (which is also irrelevant)This is a nonsense sentence. You badger me to prove the legacy of the term futanari, and then when i do, you say the legacy of the term is irrelevant. But then you want your cake as you eat it too. By saying that the evolution of the term is also irrelevant. It's like some kind of logical teeter-totter. Your reasoning swings whichever way suits you in the moment.>There's no reason for these all to mean the same thingThey don't all mean the same thing. We have words to distinguish all of the different kinds of chicks with dicks. It just so happens that "futanari" is not relegated to a specific term. It's as if you're trying to argue that the word "color" means specifically the red portion of the light spectrum. And I'm trying to tell you that color means the whole spectrum, and red means red. But you just don't get it. The fact that "color" can mean yellow, red, blue, and the rest, doesn't mean it's meaningless. The fact that futanari can mean with or without a vagina, doesn't mean it's meaningless.>I have to assume a lot of this is determined by transwomenWhere did you get this idea? Oh yeah. modern politics. That reminds me. That's why the legacy of the word was so important. I had almost forgotten. It was to prove that the interchangeable language happened prior to modern day tranny stuff. Just look at the Something Awful users. They use the words interchangeably too. Are they a bunch of trannies?(I mean, besides Shmorky) No, they're just some 00's edgelords, having fun with edgy humor, mocking futa enthusiasts. They're not trying to normalize trannies by using interchangable words. They just use language as most westerners do.
>>24783423>character can appear totally masculine, but as long as he has both genitals, then he's a futanariYeah that's true, but generally they are called "otoko futanari" to differentiate them from the female futanari since the former is a lot rarer and less popular.So unpopular no one bothered translating the japanese wiki page for it even if it's mentioned in the english futanari articlehttps://dic.pixiv.net/a/男ふたなりhttps://dic.pixiv.net/en/a/futanari#h2_1>embody the idea of a futanariFutanari mean hermaphrodite so as long they have both genitals they are one.
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>>24783537>futanari" is not relegated to a specific termFutanari is a very specific term, if not how do you call herms in hentai? oh sorry I forgot it's illegal to use hermaphrodite to describe androgynous beings that has both set of genitals because muh metaphysical gayreeks are totally relevant on this biological termmeanwhile for pussy-less dickgirls, you have tranny, shemale and newhalf and probably moreand dickgirl itself is a universal termso you keep arguing for a less precise language that also isn't compatible with the original Japanese meaning despite using the termwith fags like you, might as well take a random japanese word and force another meaning and try to gaslight people when they try to correct you
>>24783546>"otoko futanari" to differentiate them from the female futanari since the former is a lot rarer and less popular.OOOHHHH, So the Japanese append words to make distinctions too! Wow, would you look at that. So "otoko futanari" is totally fine to distinguish a masculine body. But "futa with vagina" is not ok to make distinct futa with vaginas. >Futanari mean hermaphroditeAnd hermaphrodite doesn't necessarily mean both sets of genitals in the west. That understanding seems to be the case in Japan. But not here.
>>24783579>>24783546>>24783537>>24783455>>24783437>>24783423>>24783370>>24783333have you guys considered you are all retarded?beat your meat, than go touch grass. jesus christ.
>>24783598otoko futanari just mean "male-looking futanari", it's not a different word just a precision>hermaphrodite doesn't necessarily mean both sets of genitals in the westgo back to school, since when biology has cultural borders?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermaphrodite
>>24783579>with fags like you, might as well take a random japanese word and force another meaning and try to gaslight people when they try to correct youIt seems to me that the Japanese took a random Greek word, forced another meaning onto it, and then gaslit your weeaboo ass. I'm done. Because until you address the topic of metaphysics, we're not having the same conversation, and you're just repeating yourself like a broken record.
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>>247836111. Hermaphrodite comes from the Greek god. Doctors utilized the term to express an idea. But the medical term is not *thee* term. It's a borrowed term.2. Some hermaphroditic organisms can change their sexes. It says right there on the wiki page>Most species of parrotfish start life as females and later change into males.So if we take the strict medical term into account, it actually explains how a futanari can appear without a vagina. As they transitioned from one to the other.
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>>24783642these are sequential hermaphrodite, futanari is 二形 meaning "two form" sometime written as 双成https://jisho.org/search/双成This double form implies only simultaneous hermaphroditism, otherwise you would agree calling irl trannies as futanari
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>>24783537I didn't ask, you're mistaking me with a different Anon. The evolution of a word is somewhat relevant, but evolution doesn't mean the newest thing; a newly mutated species has evolved, but that doesn't meant it will thrive in the environment. The main thing that matters is how the word is currently used and how popular it is.If it was the case that the majority of people used futa in one way I would do the same, but there always seems to be confusion lead by people who want it to mean a certain thing and so I am resisting that confusion.>They don't all mean the same thing.Weren't you saying they were used interchangabley in the post I responded to?The futa could mean the category, but there is still the 'full futa' that is default the hermaphrodites. Futa-sans-balls isn't a true futa and futa-sans-pussy is a dickgirl (shemale looks similar but a girl with a dick is the opposite of a guy with tits).Dickgirl is anchored in the other term of cuntboy, thus they both mean the body of one gender with the genital set of the other.>Oh yeah. modern politics.Because modern politics came out of thin air. There was not such thing as 'homosexual transsexuals' priorPeople mocking the futa enjoyers aren't going to care about the distinction. I don't get the point you're trying to make here>>24783598>"otoko futanari" If a otoko futanari means a male looking hermaphrodite, it would stand to reason that the futanari is the hermaphrodite and is typically feminine.Thus is goes back to what I said >>24782890- hermaphrodite is the sex- futanari is the gender>>24783642The thing to keep in mind is that doctors used hermaphrodites prior to realising there were no true human hermaphrodites, thus the term 'intersex'. While the hermaphrodite has both sexual reproductive capacities, the intersex lies somewhere between male and female>>24783689One is likely formal speech and the other informalMuch like 'transwoman' vs 'shemale' being formal and informal
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>>24783689>evolution doesn't mean the newest thing; a newly mutated species has evolved, but that doesn't meant it will thrive in the environment.>Because modern politics came out of thin air. There was not such thing as 'homosexual transsexuals' priorPut these two ideas together and inspect them.The interchangeable use of futa, dickgirl, and shemale goes back as far as I can remember. Which is around 2002. But likely even before that. Modern tranny politics only really caught traction around what? 2013? I mean, sure, it was growing before that point, but the most current wave really swelled around 2013-2016, and that's the wave culture has been riding since. This secret cabal of trannies trying to pass themselves of as futanari? How long has that been going? Maybe a few years? I wouldn't know. In fact, now that I think about it. you never proved this is happening. I've just been giving you the benefit of the doubt. But are there REALLY trannies trying to pass themselves off as futanari? Or is that just your twisted perception and delusions? In any case, the modern politics you're so afraid of, is nothing but a niche mutation. Everyone knows futas are fictional. Your fear mongering is no more grounded in reality than the mothers who fear video game violence will corrupt children.The evolution of the term that has tested time, is the general umbrella usage of futanari. That's what you're fighting against. And that's why your fight is completely nonsensical.>Weren't you saying they were used interchangeably in the post I responded to?Yes. But again, the fact that they're used interchangeably doesn't mean they're thought of as 100% the same. They're just close enough to the same thing, as to all be categorized together. So the usage is very informal.>- hermaphrodite is the sex>- futanari is the genderNonsense even by YOUR understanding. If you define futanari by having both genitals, then futanari is a sex.
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>>24783717>The thing to keep in mind is that doctors used hermaphrodites prior to realising there were no true human hermaphroditesAnd before doctors got a hold of the term, it was used by poets to describe the joining of the male and female body. But also generally used as a joining of masculine and feminine.It was necessary for doctors to create a medical distinction. We don't.
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This is why people hate futa threads. There's always at least two autismos shitting up the thread with arguments over terminology instead of sharing porn. Jesus Tittyfucking Christ, shut the fuck up.
>>24783061ThisI want to sate the urge to know wheat being fucked in the ass and mouth feels like without doing gay shit with other people. Hnnng imagine cumming in your own ass or down your own throat...
I hid like 3 posts and half the thread is now hidden. Is every futa thread like this?
>>24783876foreal though. like what is their issue? genuinely need to touch grass.>>24783856>>24783886it may be masturbation in the grand scheme of things, but why not just do some gay shit, so you know you dont like it? cant knock it till you try it.>>24783972am i hidden?
>>24783824Yes, and I have seen it for a decadeThe point of referencing the evolution is that it is just a process, where it came from being the legacy. Neither matter as much as how it is used by most people, and if it makes sense it would be better.While in politics the ideas change, psychology remains mostly consistent. We can observe in modern transwomen the high rates of AGP which correlates with an attraction to shemales:Look up 'Sexual Arousal Patterns of Autogynephilic Male Cross-Dressers' and put the url on Sci-HubSo while they are getting off to themselves/others seeing themselves as women they are also doing the same thing in regards to futanari. The point is they want to be in the category of thing people are already attracted to, there are no real futanari so they aren't actually trying to do so (other than one Japanese guy I've seen), but they would get pleasure vicariously from people adoring futa and having futa seen as an analogue for shemale. Have you never been into a femboy thread and seen the amount of femboys RP-posting, and who do you think is most likely to RP as futa thus deriving sexual satisfaction from being seen as a futa?This isn't fear mongering, I jerk off to shemales and femboys all the same. I am just aware of the distinction and want to retain it for the sake of writing smutI will accept slight umbrellaing, in the same way I will accept men calling themselves boy, or gays using girlIt is metaphorical. Just as 'girl dick' is the metaphor for what shemale, dickgirls, and futa haveI take it you only want to be topped by a futa, and thus you have as little care about the distinction as those who would mock all futa, dickgirl, and shemale enjoyers as a single entity>YOUR understandingMy understanding is that gonads are sex - to be a hermaphrodite one needs to make sperm and ovumFutanari is the gender because it refers to a feminine hermaphrodite. Man is the masculine male, transwoman the feminine male
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>>24784010>I take it you only want to be topped by a futaWay... WAY off the mark, my friend. I don't envision myself in any futa scenario. Self insertion is for ego trippers and cucks. I don't like futa on male, or femboys. In fact, knowing you hang out in femboy threads just lowered my estimation of you a great deal. RP is weird too. I stay away from all that stuff.>My understanding is that gonads are sexThis is medically incorrect. For someone who references the medical field a lot, you should know this. Like I explained earlier: genital development is the result of having either xx or xy chromosomes. One's "gonads" are merely evidence of one's sex. But that's not the only way to test for sex. You can just take a DNA sample, and check. You can measure bones. You can measure muscle density. You can measure skin texture. Yes, men and woman actually have different skin texture. There are all kinds of physical traits that differ due to chromosomes. Genitals are merely 1 of many.Say someone gets in a horrific car accident and lose everything from their hips and down, but miraculously survive. They have no genitals now. Are they now sexless? Do they stop being male or female? I mean, sure, they will stop producing certain hormones. But is that really all their sex is to you? If you say yes, then your ideas of sex are no good.>to be a hermaphrodite one needs to make sperm and ovumHere's a hypothetical I've been sitting on for a while: What would you say to a futanari that has ovaries and womb, but no vagina? As in, no visible opening. Everything is there underneath, you just can't see it. What then?>Futanari is the gender Gender is a social construct. If the futanari has feminine features, then that's a biological construct.>All that stuff about AGPSounds like gay noise to me.
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>>24784115>>24784113you are clinically retarded. room temp IQ. get a life.
>>24784126Man, you watch Nyakumi. I don't give a fuck about what YOU think.
>>24784126>>24784136nyakumi is goated.
>>24784113I could be offbase but I feel like the distinction he's trying to draw is something like one term is an informal adjective or colloquial name whereas the other is a more precise term akin to taxonomic nomenclature idk I tend to give people too much credit tho
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>>24784146>the other is a more precise term akin to taxonomic nomenclature If you're Japanese, then that argument may work. But we're all western here.From one westerner to another, we know what futanari means. And coming into futa threads and crying because we don't recognize the Japanese usage of the term is ridiculous. Like he's actually mad at us, because over in the femboy threads, random dudes are roleplaying as futanari. Fucking bizarre.
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>>24784113>This is medically incorrectDefinitionally, yes.I'm drawing different distinctions that are more specefic. It is the SRY protein that is typically found on the Y chromosome that leads to the testes being developed (without and the fetus develops ovaries). The SRY protein can appear on the X chromosome under certain conditions leading to an XX male, a person with XX genes who has testes (under developed compared to normal, and typically failing to allow natural reproduction).This is what I am defining as male, just as the male sex cell is the sperm, not just the sperm with the Y chromosome. 99% of the time a males, person with testes, has XY, they usually have a penis too but if they have low T or a condition that prevents the absorption, their penis can fail to develop.The people who lose their genitals are eunuchs, but I'd define them as male because that is their natural state. If you cloned them with their genes a male would appear.If it is the case that these conditions preventing the male from developing a penis aren't genetic, I wouldn't perhaps change my stance on the gender, but I have heard it is genetic.I don't view gender as a social construct, that is a misinterpretation by the people who took the 'role' off the end of 'gender role' as defined by John Money. The things they describe are culture, yes, but that is largely determined by personality which is determined by the hormones in shaping the brain. The mainstream definition of gender can be considered close to referring to the hormones, since many people state a woman is a gender and is an 'adult human female', the adult being distinct from the child due to hormones.If a futanari has only ovaries, I'd call her a dickgirl. That could be used to explain why they are feminine with only a penis.Outwardly a dickgirl is male, but you could get away with that distinction of a hermaphrodite dickgirl, which maybe become 'trans futa' after an operation
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>>24784253>If a futanari has only ovaries, I'd call her a dickgirl>Outwardly a dickgirl is maleUtter retardation. Would you like to rethink that stance? You sounded so smart in the beginning, and then you say dumb shit like that.
>>24784278Ty for all the nyakumi. I pick up the occasional video off of f95 zone.Is this thread being saged?
>>24784319I don't get why he is going off in a futa thread on a Mongolian basket weaving forum. Kinda retarded ngl.
>>24784268Me and him, it only takes two.I normally like to at least contribute content, but I deleted all my porn and don't know where to get webms easily.I've converted a few, but that takes a while and I don't know a good site/tool.>>24784113I'll add, I don't envision myself in scenarios unless I'm writing about it. But liking futa (and I assume you include shemales/dickgirls) is no more degenerate than femboys. Mostly I like hung femboys on milfs (venus women), but bottom heavy boys are good too.It's porn, so the only thing that matters is whether it slots into the feminine shaped whole in my brain with a little novelty attached. I'm not interested in femboys or shemale IRL.>>24784192Femboys are roleplaying as femboys, or at the least fantasising about being the femboys in the images. I figured you would realise when asking 'who is roleplaying the futa' that it is the transwomen doing so. I shouldn't have to clarify that, it should have been obvious. Why wouldn't the person who thinks their gender and who they are as a person is entirely based on what they believe they are and how they act/dress?I'm not a roleplayer so I don't play into their characters, characters stay in the stories. I reject the full-blown gender theory because of how it relates to people developing delusions based on porn and other fiction, but since it doesn't seem to be going away I'll try to rationalise their misinterpretation of 'gender' with both the mainstream and traditional. Making it make sense with futa is just a bonus. 'Ethno-gender' is what the neo-definition of gender is, an ethnicity on the basis of gender - the shape of ones body, brain, and personality and the resulting behaviors of those grouped traits (what the man does and what the woman does).And I'm not mad (that's just what a mad person would say), I just like having excuses to write and express the things that make sense to me. I take these differing definitions as dialects. Language is interesting
>>24784319I'd have to have time to consider it. I'm just stream of conscious writing and that's a scenario I've not heard.It's similar to the males born without a penis due to hormonal problems. They still have internal testes so are male, but you wouldn't call them a man.Intersex would probably make sense, but that's a copout label.What would you consider them? Dickgirl, shemale, or futa (and remind me of your distinctions of those terms)?
>>24784344If it has a face of a woman, if it speaks like a woman, if it has the bone structure of a woman, the skin of a woman, the hair of a woman, the curves of a woman, the *outwardly* the dickgirl is a female. And a chick with a dick is a futa. This isn't hard to understand. Why are you complicating things?Do you see how far you have to rationalize that it's male? You're going as deep as the SRY protien. You waste so much energy trying to rationalize futas as male, just because they lack a vagina. When it would cost a fraction of the effort to rationalize the outwardly appearing female as a female.
>>24784333>Femboys are roleplaying as femboysNo, random dudes are. Some *might* be femboys, but they're the minority. The rest are just random dudes.>'who is roleplaying the futa' that it is the transwomen doing so.No, it's random dudes. First of all, transwomen are still just random dudes. Second of all, most roleplayers aren't transitioned. Or transitioning. they're just plain perverts that probably think about sucking dick a lot.
>>24784365I don't get the first sentence. Is that the definition of the dickgirl?And the dickgirl is female (having XX in you view)?The futa is the category containing dickgirls, shemales, and hermaphrodites? >Why are you complicating things?I'm trying to specify things. I'll reframe my definitions: The sexes are based on sex, the act of reproduction. The core component is the sex cells (gametes); the male is sperm and produced in the male gonads (testes).The males and female are the two categories, the hermaphrodites being a being with both gamete production (in some stories, a futa-sans-balls is still a herm since she makes virile cum) Because it is possible for XX people to develop testes if they have the SRY protein on one of the X chromosomes, the genes are merely the determiner of the gonads and thus the sexGender I use the terms 'man' and 'woman' to define the rest of the masculine and feminine traits downstream from their natural sex.Thus the male is the boy, the penis being the primary trait (often defined as a 'primary sexual characteristic', but I am breaking the traditional categories). Due to the hormone release occurring at puberty, the boy transitions into a man. The shape of the anatomy is the gender the things you say are 'of a woman'. I would also add the brain of a woman because that two has gender based differences.The reason I reject the defining of 'gender' as a social constructs is the people who state that don't act that out. They transition their gender through the use of hormones and surgeries. The transwoman is the male who takes the shape of a womanSince the genes determine the gonads, a natural born dickgirl (woman - vagina + dick and balls) would logically be a male. Of course in fantasy we can say it's magic or they have a special set of genes. I'm just a fan of hard science fiction, so I would have to rationalise it in some way for me to write itAnd again it's the same labeling method for hermaphrodite and futanari
>>24784375At least 3 were femboys, which was enough to know I don't want to interact with femboys more than just the femboy characters in porn. It's comically cringe when they post their cock or ass and expect me to RP like I care as if they were a woman.Yes, transwomen are random dudes, and they are also roleplaying the futa at a higher rate. I've been in a couple futa discords.
>>24784365>>24784436 cont.The point I'm trying to make is that the boy and man are both male, but have different traits. Just as the girl and woman are both female.We typically call them primary and secondary sexual characteristics, but I am coopting the transgender ideology to try and make sense with itself and the typical definitions of genderYou could call it the male genders, as in boy and man are two types of male gender that naturally occur with the transwoman being an artificial one. (Shemale being a common name for transwoman who doesn't get bottom surgery, remaining in tact as male, but adopting feminine appearance and behaviors)
>>24759479 Her cooter is under her balls desu
>>24782661>the result of a sex change which mean it's a trannytrannies don't actually change their sex though... it's all cosmetic.
You guys had a fucking book lenght argument about anime dick... Valid
the reason why everyone just uses the term "Futa" now is because no one has time to tag porn so fucking specifically. No one's doing the research to see if a character has vagina or not before posting it and tagging it. No one has the time or patience for that, just like no one has the time or patience for these full-autist arguments you few fucking dumb bitches are having. Female character with a dick = futa because no one is going to do a deep dive to see if the character in question is a futanari, newhalf, trap, canonical transexual, etc.No one has the time for that so it's all just futa, which may as well mean "girl with dick". Get bent and fucked. Cry about it you fucking bitches. Stop whining about it in your stupid 5 paragraph reddit-spaced blog posts. THIS BOARD IS FOR PORN
>>24784600Tell me how to convert to webms that are well compressed and look good.Then maybe I can contribute more than length arguments. Not to say that I won't argue, just there will be more in the form of relevant porn vids.
>>24782602Also, because this in very important to mention before the thread 404s.It wasn't a retcon if they made the character no longer consider himself a boy. That's only the case if you buy into the LGBT+ ideology that people were always the gender they want to be. He just decided to consider himself a girl, whatever that means.While I find it off putting how transgender activists praise people/characters for sharing in their identity crisis, I do think it's hot when the the guy is mentally ill (and hung). I wrote a short post about it:>>>/d/10573974
I'm going to ignore all of this angry text and arguments and just assume that if your sexual fetish causes you such grief and anguish, maybe you should stop jerking off and go outside.
Barely any sauce. You fags should clam up
>>24782602>No longer considers herself a boy.why does everyone act like this fictional character is a real living human being.the nigga is a fucking jpg, the people who decided this character decision were some sweaty nerds in a writers room. not deep introspection by the character themself
>>24784143strange way to write SHIT
>>24784600>argues for people to be lazy, retarded and sloppy because he himself is lazy retardnice projection nigger, I didn't know using futa for herms and shemales for pussy-less dickgirls was so fucking hard for people with room temp IQ
>>24768956where sound?
>>24784018>>24784039>>24784059>>24784081>>24784103you need to hire a female to do voice lines cause your dubstep is crap
>>24785576buddy i wish i could animate half as well as nyakumi.
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>>24785948Does people actually fap to this?There is no sensuality, backstory or any hint of serious sexual action, it's just some speed up goofy shit with cringe music
>>24766942>oh no Ive slipped and fell right onto this mommy futas ass while another hung futa mommy is railing me from behind, however did I get into this precarious situation haha
>>24737452someone make a new thread
>>24773798If you think that there aren't tra s people that pass then you're delusional
>>24786110be the change you want to see
