We keep waitin' and hopin' and sleepin'>DLsite page of the DLC with the PV:https://www.dlsite.com/maniax/announce/=/product_id/RJ294502.html>DLsite page of the base game:https://www.dlsite.com/maniax/work/=/product_id/RJ139061.html>Seismic's twitterhttps://twitter.com/myuRanRan>Seismic's bloghttp://seismicxcharge.com/blog/
>I WANT to release before summerWelp, bare minimum would be August
>>6158324I want to release too.
Third person scenes when?
>>6158602As I said last thread, never. It's wolf girl with you not wolf girl with floating dismembered hands and dick. (Even though sometimes that is what it looks like).
>>6158602>>6158622There is at least a 3rd person scene in the bathAnal scene looks might be 3rd person too
free dlc tho? dont have the money to get the dlc. got the base game tho
>>6158636nvm just remembered the dlc's still a wip
>>6158634>There is at least a 3rd person scene in the bathGood. I finally get to be cucked by Liru!
>>6158636The game is free on pc hence the dlc is free
>>6158648Nah, there is no third person scene. It is a few brief seconds at the very beginning where the camera runs up her body in the tub and she is laying on top of you. It immediately goes back to first person. C'mon people, it's been out for years you should know these things.
>>6158786We're talking about the DLC
>>6157875Is that going to be part of the new DLC?
>>6158634Here it is the expected scene
>>6158977what about the rumoured anal scene? I've seen nothing of it
>>6158993It's literally featured in the promotional video of the DLC on DLsite
>>6159091>Tommorrow is going to be a VERY special day.very special indeed
I got a good thread up on /a/ for the anniversary, would like it if some of you could help because I have alot of farm chores before Easter dinner. Will try to bump as I can but it's moving fast today.
Holy mother of Jesus
>>6161243Huh starting to think he actualy was ready to publish the dlc last year but snapped and now is making ntr WGWY
>>6161489You gotta have a 3rd person view for certain positions to see the girl in a unique light. You gotta have a bland white guy or translucent dick and hands to grab boobs and move the girl and stuff. You shouldn't think of it as another person, but a free camera capturing your intimacy at a different angle.
so whats the DLC have?
any torrents for the DLC
>>6162277>New entrance scenes, one with paizuri cumming followed by a blowjob, the other she greets you in her dotera>New dinner scene, one you make her a sandwich, the other a 'gengis khan' sort of bbq>New sex scenes in the bath, one she rides you, the other is anal>New sex scenes in bed with reverse cowgirl, you finger her then spoon, she rides you while you are asleep, you fuck her while she is asleep>Cuddles scenes>Puppy Liru washing and feeding>A secret scene which I guess is about that >>6161243>Maybe more>>6162285It's not released yetETA: NEVER EVER
>>6162509Damn Jingisukan bbq mutton is in my opinion just behind wagyu in japanese meat dishDon't think there will be more but didn't an anon said on a previous thread that the secret scene was a pregnant scene?
I <3 Liru
It would be cool if the DLC added Liru's pajamas, her outfit in >>6164289 as toggleable to all of the scenes. At most it means some manual adjustment to the physics of the fabric and her breasts, no?
>>6165546Its strange. Open front pajamas/robes usually have alot of extra fabric and are much bigger so you overlap and tie on the front. Good for insulation when you are lying down on a chilly evening. Liru looks like she can't even fit into the one she has on and tightly buttoning them closed is uncomfortable.Guess it's just for looks.
Looks like he started rendering scenes
>>6166087K. Did French anon get that FR release and watching it?
>>6166095Magipoka or WGWY?I remember watching magipoka with the french sub ages ago but it was maybe a fansub
>>6166146Magipoka. Ah ok.
Here's your DLC, bro.
>>6166524This certainly takes me back to days of old
>>6166095I downloaded episodes that were listed as HD but weren't at all
>>6166836speaking about HDhttps://mega.nz/file/7pNgDZgT#OhW4SH4-DLVN62b7r-Bv2L0XabZGNGXyLqDNQNW0Qfsanyone with a 4k tv should tell me if anything is too sharp, colors are off (to the extent of annoyance) or if grain should be added, I don't have a good software solution to export HDR video but I can change the saturation or other settings.
bumping for interest
>>6166968Turn off all subtitles in the final render please. It's not like they matter much
>>6167526>implying what liru say is insignificant
>>6167526>>6167956how about I keep subtitles/24fps at eating scenes and remove them during the 60fps sex scenes?saves me the time of re-recording and modifying the subtitle events for the entire game, and still lets you have cinematic, polite chat with liru, while having the nice smooth scenes in the intro and main game without artifacts or text in the way.I also have found ways of adding subtitles back in as an overlay, at moderate effort and video editing. But I cant remove subtitles from the video without ugly logo removal artifacts.
>>6167985wouldn't adding a separate subtitle file for a video player be easier?
>>6167998no because is not an srt file, its around 300(based on the total #of voice audio files) lines of text that are triggered by in-game frame numbers. all the text is there, but the timing/triggering is only relative in-game.the way to remove subtitles entirely is to just disable them and re-record 30 min, but toggling them as a subtitle file requires retiming all those lines and record the game with a chroma'd background instead of video in order to record the font (although I think making an mkv you can choose an identical color/typeface and store that data in the video).
>>6167985>how about I keep subtitles/24fps at eating scenes and remove them during the 60fps sex scenes?Deal.
>>6168025hmm seems like I misunderstood something. my thinking was that you might be able to just record everything without subtitles and create a subtitle file yourself (not that I know how much effort would go into that).
>>6169210I am re re-recording to get a slightly higher input audio bitrate and no subtitles,two ways to add subtitles back in: one where the font is an SRT file embedded in the video, possibly with the fount to match, just like fansubs for animeother way is to re-record/screenshot each of the subtitles over a green video and key them back as an overlaybut are subtitles really needed though? like, I firstly don't know how to time subtitles let alone how to get them to match the video, and both require trawling through and choosing the correct subtitle text for each sex scene, one of them requiring a whole new video to post.
>>6169221>but are subtitles really needed though?No. I bet most of people here already memorized everything she says.
What would be liru's pants colour called? I have a figurine to paint and it seem to switch from a green cyan to a blue jeans depending on the sources
>>6170236I'd say blue jeans
>>6170236>liru's pants colour calledwhiteI'm a manthere's only like twelve colors
>>6170708Seem a bit too green to be true blue jeans tho it's like a light petrol blue>>6170800The hotpants not the boots/high socks
>>6170725We need a preggo DLC
>>6171575you're more annoying than the fucking anal guy, and he actually got the shit pushed into the DLC
Since we are bullshitting each other again, ill contribute. What about a pregnant hurtcore dlc with Liru and toddler aged half human/werewolf daughter?
>>6172082needs more bodily fluidsadd a horse and it's what happened to holo a few months back
>>6171575We need a paizuri only no-penetration DLC.
What if Liru was 9-13 years old? Aka the best age for sexual activity.
I made this music video to Liru a little while ago. It's short but I plan to make more.https://www.mediafire.com/file/qk5wts1x3fji0ti/Liru_-_Bedroom.mp4/file
time for a 3 hour long seismic faphero to polka music
>>6172944If I'm being generous in my estimations all the animations he's done probably only add up to ~15-30 minutes of unique animation at best, how the hell would you stretch those out that long without getting bored partway through?
we make furry versions of them
If Liru was in a Bōsōzoku/ japanese biker gang, what would she'd have written on her tokkōfuku?"Best girl" "Matsusaka lover" ?
>>6173447Good question. Well, we know she is quite well respected at the bar/fight club and it is probably not because she is a wealthy patron, but she seems to have certainly earned it which leads me to believe she has a high status in the fights. Maybe makes some of the money for the girls?I don't really think she would be in a bosozuku to begin with because I don't see her as that extreme of a rebel against society as they are newcomers and don't really know much to start out. BUT, if she for some reason was, I would bet it would be tied heavily to her wolf background and animal related tendancies. Perhaps some type of alpha pack leader related inscription or something that focuses on one of her enhanced abilities like leaping or strength. So, these girls aren't Japanese remember... I tend to believe that Hikarigaoka park just happened to be where they chose or someone else chose for them to live. Imagine if they decided to live in anons home town in the US, Europe or any other part of the world. Would the adventures really be so much different?
>>6173754>Would the adventures really be so much different?Well yes, for start there woudn't really be the museum incident since wolfs still exist outside of japan (japanese wolfs got extinct in the meiji era if i recall)No tanabata festival. (Is the super-robot part canon?), the mountain resort episode is full of japanese spirits (tanukis, Yuki-onna...)And no cherry blossom.
>>6174201Cherry blossoms are everywhere over here in the East. There are festivals and things just the same as hanami over there. As for spirits, we have our own. Bigfoot, chupacabra, lake werewolf etc.
>>6174235Well woudn't really work in Europe at least except maybe some in the UK spirits and festival woudn't really fit. Even tho an oktoberfest could be fun
>>6174746it would work well in Ireland, the Celtic aesthetic, spirits, and traditions fit well with her.wolves are also extinct on the island, there's the Dragon of Shandon festival, but over 7,000 cherry blossom trees were cut down recently though.
>>6175498You know, it's funny I was going to mention Ireland and the selkies, perhaps a male and post that pic of Liru in diffrent shades and hair colors like red but ehhh....
What would you think about a drunk Liru night that ends with heroin and her crying for her mother before it turns to passed out sex then you finish?
>>6176219No good? Ok. Just a thought.
Love the tail in that pic
>>6175498Is that my favorite sleih beggey?
I can't quite remember, but I think I went a whole day without seeing or hearing/searching for anything about Liru. It's been 4 an a half years since I have done that. :/
The other princesses would be lost without Liru... To a point.
>>6158648>mfs wanna get cucked by they waifusIs that ide the product of years of neglect and dissapointement in the "my desires" departement. I sure feel like the older i get and the more my wishes dont get fullfilled the weirder the new shit gets also standards seem to get lower
>>6181037To a point yeah, but Keimie would probably be more present if liru wasn't there to compensate
>>6181668I don't remember Keimie actually doing any chaperone type duties if I recall. They played a game and did a what if during the medical episode.
Imagine if Keimie was just anon male or female and the girls were fine with that.
anyone still excited for DLC: you gotta pay for the compression this time edition?
>>6184110hm I thought anamorphic would work to compress this as small as possible
>>6184110>>6184112https://files.catbox.moe/wyxpqz.mp4nevermind, here's a quality embeddable ver of the trailer
>"Breakthrough. I managed to get over the cut that didn't get much better. Boobs are justice."Some good news at least.Hows you guys' day been?
>>6184348Good since I saw that tooNothing better than seeing massive boobs in the morning
>>6184504totally agree, the christmas DLC suffers the most due to the darker colors/snow, and artifact/compression removal have helped remove some of the worst banding but a higher bitrate(or better use of 15mb/s) and a better format than vp6 should be used.
>>6184888I think that's cum over her right shoulder, he hadn't make collision yet at that time I guess
>>6159524The translation seems incomplete. I think it's more like:>At shit-taking filling the washbasin with hot water and asshole washing - there exist people whose situation is like this OMGSomeone with better knowledge of Japanese please feel free to correct.
>>6172463seismic makes sexy paizuri scenes and animations would pay for a whole boob fucking focus dlc
>>6187297Putting your penis between her breasts is asinine and really derogatory towards Liru. It's one of those things where you are more inwardly focused on yourself and a literal fetish fulfiller than caring about her, which makes it a practice that shouldn't really ever be done. I mean, c'mon guys, smooth skin doesn't even get you off nor was it ever supposed to.
>>6187310what are you talking about, a boob job is totally more intimate than sexhttps://youtu.be/qPxSU7zDmOE
>>6184110>>6184147Is this an old trailer or new?
>>6187635it's the one for the dlc
>>6187638Yes but when did Seismic make it?
>>6187391Is this supposed to be a joke? C'mon man.
>>6171580Anon you need to understand
I only post in this thread for the last year yet my post was deleted and I was banned for being a troll post. I will say what I said again. I wish the DLC has an acceptable bitrate this time so I don't have to look at so many damned artifacts. I will say it again and again fucker.
>>6188960∞ + 1 = ∞
>>6187310>having taste THIS badYou could have just said you were gay and it would have sufficed, you know?
>>>6189445>>>6187310imagine living every day of your life being a penetration-only "skin's not meant to get you off" opinion-holding faggot only to take some sort of moral high ground on how your fictional waifu should get you off in your fantasy.know this buddy, every day your liru is getting her nips pinched and being dicked by at least 3 clones while I'm around and no moral stake on how you THINK she would feel on the matter will change the boundless joy she feels servicing me.
>>6159524>>6186913The correct translation of the tweet is, "How many people are there who, every time they take a dump, put warm water into a wash bowl and clean their butthole?"Truly a monumental question for the ages.
>>6189505Ah, I see. A troll. lol ok.Nice full pink moon last night.
>>6189782Don't a good few Japanese places have bidet toilets, if I'm not mistaken? I've never used one personally, but getting an entire container of water seems like so much more of a hassle than just letting it spray you.
>>6190724Japanese have high-tech toilets directy splashing water to their butt
>>6190749Yeah, also if go to a hotel with really strong water jets in the hot tub, you can fill up your rectal cavity completely and squirt it back out. Also get your dick off too. But of course, we've all known these things since we were 12.
>>6189949Ah, I see, a retardthis time it was FOUR cocks
>>6190947Lol your silly imagination. You are obviously not a fan of Liru and that is alright. We've all learned to tolerate your kind in Magipoka threads.
>>6190947Stop posting resized pics.
>>6191031this isnt /hr/ and the image is already up on archives
Well guys... I dunno.No new doujinshi that I am aware of last year. Japan isn't yet open to travel so we can't go visit Hikarigaoka. Anyone planting a garden or gonna get a quarter/side of a cow?
>>6192262I'm working on my liru shrine, kind of hard to work on the 3d model that will go in it since i'm kind of hiding it. GF is cool with cosplaying liru and all but that would probably be too much in her eyes
>>6192354Cool. I thought of a shrine, but I don't know what I would put in it. I already sleep with a Liru dakimakura every night for the last 9 years or so. I have doujinshis, a small poster and other official merchandise but nothing that really stands out like a figure. There is this image here with Liru standing up. I thought about making a lifesize poster cut out or standup and did some photoshop manipulation to cut her out (other anons did well in a previous thread) I don't have the final file, but it came out pretty well except the feet. I guess I could just not have it a full standup I suppose. Printing a figure would definitely be next on my list if there were good ones available.
Forgot pic. At work so I don't have my home files.
>>6192899Well there's a good model that have been cleaned/smoothened a few month back.My shrine is just a small shoji house a bit like a butsudan
>>6193352Yeah, I think I remember someone saying something about a shrine and a door that doesn't open or can't see inside. I didn't quite understand that. I'll eventually do something other than motorcycle dakimakura rides. I like the full size wall picture thing. Though standups are cheap as hell to make these days. Back in the 90s, my friend spend 300 something plus shipping making a lifesize cardboard custom standup of Seven of Nine from Star Trek from a photo he took at a con.
>>6193476Aye it's me, there was no door on the first one, imagine a paper lantern basicaly with a top, i've basicaly sealed the model in it. Changing it after it got destroyed since it seems the old model needed repainting after a while
More patreon from long ago
Not alot going on Liru related lately huh? Well, these dry spells have come and go the last fifteen years.
No wgwy dlc for my birthday tomorow so my gf will cosplay and replay some of the scenes of the game.Which made me realised, how the hell is liru's tail dry in the bath scene?
When is the preggo dlc/mod coming? I love the game's aesthetics but i can't fap to it due to being unable to get her pregnant.
>>6199937>i can't fap to it due to being unable to get her pregnant.What
>>6199937its not hard to modify the text for that fantasy not making a preggo mod, even if the style transfer was possible
>>6199937I told you before, I'm telling you again: kill yourself.
>>6199950Doesn't she literaly say something like "what if i become pregnant?" When you cum inside?
>>6200051I mean, that is kinda harsh and I like to keep things civil, but... seconded. With all respects, most of don't want to see Liru pregnant. >>6199937
>>6200142i remember i came when i read those lines am i beyond help
>>6200286We are all different anon, but there comes a time when the thing that you are into isn't popular in the community where you are trying to force it. At that time, you just gotta figure out how to find communities and forums of others that think like you. I know there are forums for people who shop photos and mod games to fulfill certain fantasies. It's just annoying people here you asking the same thing over and over. Like me for instance... I really enjoy sex with children. I love the few times I have been able to give them Ketamine and mild drugs. Wooing them and leading them away from night gymnastics classes in the midwest and Rotary club meetings and just going to town and trying new things and substances with them. Never knocking them out. That isn't my thing, but I love knowing the child is in an altered state so I meticulously measure and make sure everything is just right when I get them into that state of mind and my libido then goes through the roof. Many people here on 4chan and other imageboards don't share my interest and I stoped talking and reporting on it back in 2008 or 9. It was then I found other forums, bulletin boards and made contact with others who shared something similar to what I like. I was just tired of people saying fuck off and what the hell and basically wasting my time. I am not going to find one kink of mine here and that is ok and I am sure as hell not going to repeat myself over and over and lower the quality of posts and responses in the thread. So please, take a hint and look for pregnancy fetish material as it relates to 3D games or real life perhaps elsewhere. TIA.
>>6201215Tldr of what I said: This imageboard is locked down with rules and a circlejerk of only a few fetishes, not the wild west of the early days where everything was free and accepted. Don't post here if you aren't wanted and look somewhere else. It saves you time and our frustration from repeated requests.
>>6201228you could have said >>>/d/
>>6201228Yeah, your """"kind"""" isnt wanted here.You can fuck off anytime you want.
pretty sure it's plugin removal, but your saves might get fucked
>>6201869You fuck off. See how much this helps the thread? Lol. Kids.
>>6201953For fuck's sake Seismic please finish the DLC already
>>6202117It took around 5 years to build the game from the ground up. We are crossing the 5 year mark soon...I swear at this rythm i'll have finish my 2nd degree and go to japan before he finish it
>>6202117B..but... The ride. He has to announce a sequel before releasing the DLC or else... What are we supposed to do?!
>>6199937Idk about not being able to fap to non-preggo, but you're not alone in wanting preggo content. It'd be wholesome if she was showing a small bump in an epilogue scene or something.Everyone so vehemently disagreeing with you is simply still a teenager and hasn't developed the tastes of an adult yet.
>>6201953Will we still be able to launch the game tho?
>>6202559If your not dumb enough to install shit that disables functionality that you still want, then yes. Take control over your computer people. Disable updates and read changelogs and when you find a configuration that works, don't change or let them change shit on you. Blah blah security updates are mostly BS. Much of the shit they add and change is just bloat that we don't need.
>>6202559Seismic distributes an .exe which bundles all the necessary libraries so it should be fine. Some pirate sites distributed the .swf (or embedded it), those will not be fine.
>>6200324actually im nofap now after seeing your reading this. thanks.
>>6200324I thought we got rid of you people 10 years ago or at least got you to shut up or share your "material"
>Makes release page for the DLC in July 2020 for a release a month later in August 2020>10 months later in May 2021 he hasn't finished itHow?
>>6197310>patreonYou mean this thing hes making is going to be available for free? Never really followed this just shitposted in the threads from time to time
>>6200324Aborted shithole like you needs to be beaten to death
>>6203839Nah need to buy it.Patreon is there so he can jack off, play games and go on mortorcycle ride instead of working
>>6204548Jesus imagine paying someone to make something you will then need to buy, what an asshole
>>6205393Everyone gives him a single dollar per month thoNot so much
>>6205421360€ per month from what i can see.That a nice bonus already it would pay me rent
>>6205464He's a lazy cheat. Respect Liru. Not Seismic.
>>6206017The guy made a parody of liru why would i respect him? Compare magipoka liru and wgwy liru, one is dumb and horny the other is pretty smart and indépendant
Not original pic. Don't save.
>>6206038youre on a hentai message board, therefore horny good
>>6206769Parentheses too big and not his favorite emoji now, but nice try
>>6206775Small one can't be used here.
I always think of this guy when I see Seismics snarky emoticons.
>>6206574There is horny and there's been a overglorified sexdoll.I guess what piss me of kinda is that liru is just seen as a hentai character now
>>6207112you kinda have to blame ZONE for that...
>>6207116Heh the show was recent back than.Zone probably made more people watch magipoka compare to seismic
>>6207112Yeah, I know it sucks and once again, I am with you. All we can do is educate them and introduce them to the glorious masterpiece that is Magipoka. Seismic has no rights to Liru and is just one interpretation of her. We all know the real Liru is in the anime, manga and in our hearts. That is all that matters. I mean, we don't count doujinshi as canon (thankfully) and Seismics work is the same.
>>6207112>seen as a hentai character nowSorry for not giving two fucks about your fav animey
>>6204548>>6205393>>6205464>>6206017You retards need to stop with this bullshit acting like he's making thousands per month, this shit's probably barely enough to cover food and utilities at best.Also, where the hell do you live that this is even close to covering rent unless you live in an absolutely rundown shithole of a building/neighborhood/country?
>>6208554That's probablly not enough to pay for monthly software licenses, the way things are going
>>62085542 room appartment with private parking for around 400€, 455$ is around 370€.Governement give me 150€ to pay rent.20€ for electricity, 48€ for internet, I'd have 53€ left and just need to work to pay my food.All that in the 6th richest country in the world if you look at GDPThat why i said it's a nice bonus.
Still, this is for doing nothing except showing a stream of him working now and then. It's silly. If their was patreon exclusives with media art, voice recording blooper reels or something, I could see giving him money for SOMETHING.
>>6208908Well that's barely enough for food and utilities, or maybe even not enough depending on where you are in Japan.That's still insanely low to me though. Most apartments in most places here in the US will run you easily $1,000 a month, and if you live in some hyped up shithole city it'll be easily twice that, if not triple or even more.Only see it go below 1k if it's in smaller states, towns, etc.>>6209280Some whores on onlyfans make several orders of magnitude more just for showing their cleavage.Also, you do know that crowdfunding sites like this are essentially just donation boxes, right? Hell, if you want to whine about people getting paid money on patreon while doing barely anything, look no further than artists like TwistedGrim. Dude used to draw porn animations a few years ago on there, but then slowly shifted to drawing some FOTM character flashing their tits/pussy, and IIRC before that happened was already earning easily $5-10k a month. Dude maybe uploads one or two choppy animated 2 second loops a month.The few hundred he earns a month just means that gives him more time to work on the DLC than if he was having to get money other ways, since IIRC he's basically out of money from all the sales after buying a house and whatnot.
>>6209733why the fuck are we still talking about his patreon, he makes tons more passive income on twitter every time a random youtuber mentions her.I bet like 3 of the 91 ips here found out about or at least watched huggbees or some speedrunner play this game back in 2017
>>6203836Scope creepPlanning fallacy
>>6209743Not me, my IP is auto changed cookies cleared every post. So I am at least maybe 20 or so of those IPs. Eh, he does what he wants and people keep paying. A fool and his money. Sad.
>>6210160It's more a lot of people are interested by his work386 patreons for an average of not even 1.20$ per personThat's not much money for anyone really
>>6208554People who don't live in shitholes (like USA) actually own their homes, not rent it from a jew.
>>6210181?I just calculated the average for europe and it's 74.9%, so it's not like it's that much higher. 30/50 states are above that average according to data from 2019 too, and of course california and new york drive it down, just like with everything else.
>>6210866That's surprising, i always though almost everyone in USA is renting their home.But still, even in Japan, according to statistics, there is more than 60% chance of him owning his home, unless he already confirmed otherwise.
>>6211048homes in japan litirally are disposeable, unless he has a family he's probably living in an apartment, which he may own or notthe home ownership rate is also BELOW 60% in Hokkaido, some of the lowest ownership rates in Japan.
Remember Liru? Yeah, she was/is awesome.
Traveling with a family member now. Two weeks so far seeing lots of people. Would rather have Liru as a travel companion. I am probably one of the very few on this Earth that would be fine with just having Liru as a friend or travel buddy. Less and less over the years I have looked at her in the sexual sense. While I know she is and always will be beautiful, I more and more discover and see her in a much more broad light.
>>6213577Or even better, travel fuck buddy friend.
>>6214040Can such things happen to people in this life? Those sprinkles of a perfect heaven on a trying existence here on Earth? Seems too perfect. Too much ideal perfection in form and situation to be real.
>>6214941Well it's just like a tomboy gf. Problem is finding one, i was lucky but seen how society goes not sure they will exist in 5 years
>>6215914I missed my chance to marry a lovely childhood tomboyish friend who raised sheep (I raise beef cattle). The whole Valujet mess fucked up that timeline for me. Good for you about finding one that you like. Don't be so sure they won't exist. There are still large pockets of traditional well raised young women and there has been a pretty big pushback to "the way things are going", but yeah I see your point.
What is this face trying to convey?
>>6208908hehhere in this country a 800$ a month is an entry price for a basic appartmentand thats for a small townin the big cities its 900$ for a literal garbage hole that makes the news for being so unfit for livingdouble that for a decent holeand all this is from a rich country
>>6217437A logical intelligent persons reaction to listening to democrat/liberal brainwashing.