Previous thread: >>6655587 This thread is for discussions about commissioning artists through platforms such as Skeb, Pixiv, Fantia, and similar sites.The majority of artists who use these services are Japanese, so if you want Western ones, it would be better to look elsewhere.Feel free to ask questions and recommendations for specific kinks/fetishes. >Skeb (requires a Twitter account)https://skeb.jp>English Guidehttps://medium.com/skeb-jp/guide-154f3a80c3b6 >Pixiv Requesthttps://www.pixiv.net/request>Help! I can’t request R18/R18G because of my payment method!Change your UI language to Japanese, and you should be able to. >Fantia Commissionshttps://fantia.jp/commissions/These commissions are reserved for supporters, but artists may allow those in the free plan to request too. Skeb/Pixiv Request/Commission Support General OP pastebin (use if making new thread): https://pastebin.com/ca6vvWji
Based cheapie artist
I beat the odds and got a completed request form a 15% rate artisthttps://skeb.jp/@suguru_szk/works/331
>>6663043based yuri chad
>>6663066I just wish yuri wasn't so expensive
Kind of want to message this skeb artist on twitter to remove one of the details from my request, but I'm not sure if I should take my chance, or just deal with it
>4/28 (JST), an error has been occurring with the payment system. Due to this, certain requests or co-requests that have been paid for via credit card may not be able to be accepted. We sincerely apologize for the inconvenience. Your patience is greatly appreciated while we work to solve this issue.Pixivbros... The Skebchads are laughing at us...
>>6663239Works for me
>>6663002share?
>>6663239Thank god i only use a debit card.If i used a credit card for commissions the temptation of being irresponsible with my finances would be too hard to resist.It's just too much power.
Any recommendations for artists who draw pregnant women? Need a sfw pic
>>6663289https://skeb.jp/@yumaRYOHEI He's closed but it was only 1k when he was open
>>6663216Deal with it. If you are a dumbass who wants to be anal on details, skeb and pixiv request aren't for you.
>>6663320Shut up arbok guy
Looking for an open artist that does facial expressions well, specifically suggestive and smug ones. NSFW isn't a requirement but preferred. Also a bonus if they can draw big tits well (obviously subjective). Any recommendations? 15kY is my upper limit
>>6663320Hmmm true, I posted that asking for opinions, so that helps me decide.
>Be me, (socially) autistic>Send 4 requests and canceled them >One of them actually demands I resend it (I do)>Posted about being upset they couldn't deliver it same day and that they're very happy about receiving a (non-appeal) request Glad they're happy, but it also taught me not to be an autist when it comes to sending requests and cancelling them like a complete retard
>>6663705Post artist, I may have to send them one myself. That's way too sad but also cute
>>6663705That artist is retarded and could've gotten you banned. If they accepted your request and immediately delivered your work, Skeb would assume that you two coordinated it and give you and him a strike.
>>6663738Nothing feels more satisfying than constantly breaking skeb's retarded rules and getting away with it.
>>6663738to me, it seems anon hastily cancelled his request
>>6663738Contrary to popular belief, Skeb doesn't have glownigger powers and is not tracking everyone and their mom Twitter accounts 24/7.Unless and artist snitches on you, or you outright break the rules on your request or boost, Skeb can't do fuck all.They're not Big Brother capable of knowing everything you do in your computer, anon.
>>6663734https://skeb.jp/@PiPu_012>>6663746I did
Question anons, we've talked a bit before about requests that got underwhelming results, but how about artists that just went way beyond expectations?Asking cause pretty recently I commissioned some art of a pretty niche character. Added a bit more funds than the recommended amount, and mostly told them to do whatever they wanted with it. Delivery time comes and here I am expecting maybe 1 or 2 multi-frame pictures, and instead the madwoman delivers basically a 10 page fucking manga. With a few pages in colour even. Would request a hell of a lot more from them, but they pretty rarely open up their skeb.Anyone else have any similar experiences?
>>6663827https://skeb.jp/@Uni_Y_inU/works/4I wasn't sure what to expect because while I like their Twitter art I wasn't too big on their Skeb request. This is easily my favorite delivery though.https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/97539968This is my only Pixiv request but they basically gave me two different angles as well as a bunch of cute sketches. The extra angle and sketches aren't posted on Pixiv though.
>>6663827I got a sketch of my OC dressed in a christmas outfit as an apology for "taking too long and being late" with my drawing despite the request taking around the same time as all the other requests I've got from them.
>>6663837Oh nice, for 5K that is some pretty clean work. The Pixiv one looks pretty fantastic as well. Interesting that they didn't post those other bits on Pixiv, but I do notice some artists keep bits exclusive to the commissioner as a respect thing. I noticed in PSD files they will sneak in little bonuses that they don't post on Pixiv or Twitter sometimes. >>6663838That's actually really cute that they did that. It's kind of funny how often I hear the "I'm sorry it's late" thing. One time I got an apology when the artist did the job in like less than a week. I think it might be because I tend to always do a bit more than the recommended amount. So I think some artists take that to mean "can you draw this faster" or something like that.>>6663827Oh, and since I mentioned it I might as well post the example that happened with me. So here you go anons!https://skeb.jp/@rika_rkgk/works/15Like I said, I really wasn't expecting it just from their previous skeb work. Worth every penny I sent their way, and the boost was more than deserved.
>>6663852>Translated textこんにちは!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!(笑damn the DeepL fucked you hard
>>6663857Yep, it sure did. I'm not really sure why Skeb's DeepL interprets exclamation points like that. It's happened a few times for me.Luckily this artist understands English though (I think), so I guess it wasn't that bad. But I'm still tempted to go back to robo translating it myself sometimes. But at the moment I can't be assed.
>>6663857>>6663863The more simple language and the less punctuation marks you use the best the DeepL translation will be.Also, no big paragraphs. Write a sentence? Press Enter. Write another? Press Enter again.
>>6663865Thanks for the tips anon. I did think that DeepL would be better at interpreting it if all the sentences are separated, but then I always worry about the request looking like a mess. Which might turn off some artists. But I guess being understandable trumps being clean looking.Don't know if it's been asked before, but has the topic of making a sort of request template been brought up? I made my own reference sheet of useful lines in JP for requests for personal use. But thinking about it now, it sounds like something like that could be useful for others too, if they don't want to rely on Skeb's auto-translator.For example, I have stuff like this on it:>It's a continuation of my last request: 前回依頼絵の続き的な流れで>Please do not enlarge the breasts: また、胸は盛らず、見たままのサイズ感にして下さい>If possible, please use multiple compositions: 可能であれば、複数構図でお願いします。>Other details are up to you: その他細かいところはおまかせします。
>>6663873>But I guess being understandable trumps being clean looking.It's either take these measures, pay someone to write the request for you in nihongo or start doing your reps.>Don't know if it's been asked before, but has the topic of making a sort of request template been brought up? I made my own reference sheet of useful lines in JP for requests for personal use. But thinking about it now, it sounds like something like that could be useful for others too, if they don't want to rely on I like writing good morning/afternoon/evening at the beginning of the request and thank you at the end of it. It's basic politeness but nowadays even basic politeness is a rare gem.
>>6663874>I like writing good morning/afternoon/evening at the beginning of the request and thank you at the end of it. It's basic politeness but nowadays even basic politeness is a rare gem.Yeah, my go to now is to always fit in a "Thank you for your consideration" at the end of all of my requests. I figure putting that in as a sort of "thanks for at least taking a look at the request" bumps up the odds of approval just the tiniest bit more. Might borrow that good morning/evening idea from you though. Probably sounds better than the basic hello I usually go with.
My tsuizi request is expiring later this morning.Wonder if I should bother with actually resending it.
>>6663827I think there was about 2-3 days left on the deadline and 10 days over the average completion time and I was getting very nervous with the result and it came out amazingly. The thighs are to die for. Apparently the artist does this a lot, but they still have a 95% completion rate so it just works out.https://skeb.jp/@nueko829/works/12
>>6663907That's an artist I'd like to request from but they're not a real priority so I've yet to bother.
>>6663874>I like writing good morning/afternoon/evening at the beginning of the request I stopped doing that after an artist called me a baka yaro gaijin who didn't understand time zones
>>6663946>Not checking Japan Time beforehandYou are indeed a baka gaijin.
>>6663947I did. I just sent it in the morning Japanese time but I guess he didn't read it until the evening and decided to call me a retard because of it
>>6663951Then he's the retard for not checking the sent date and hour of the request.
https://skeb.jp/@SauceDarusungiSomeone go take their virginity
>>6663964>NSFW NG
>>6663766Are you the vtuber? You sound cute but you need to properly setup your mic
I paid 25k for a commission and it was one of the worst things I've ever gottenI paid 5k and the art is easily top 3 of all the requests I've gotten>>6663964>Response average days: 1Someone is already having sex with that artist
>imgur album views went up by 1>checking a few times each day to see if it's been rejected (it hasn't yet)
>>6663827Honestly I commissioned someone for like 5k expecting a still colored image and ended up getting a full blown animation that proceeded to be his most popular work and the most popular for thr character as well
>>6663827first skeb request was 5k and i was blown away by the quality. it was also that artist's first request. i requested them 4 more times but they haven't reopened since. wish they would.
>>6663827I commissioned a 5k artist with art that looked kinda good, but then he left it in pending hell forever. I was kinda tempted to cancel it at one point, but I left it in the end. Maybe I'd get lucky? Well, he accepted it a day before the deadline, delivered in two weeks and the result was amazing. Had six variations too. Damn, wasn't expecting it to be thát good. Now I'm paranoid about canceling requests.
>>6663705maybe i should start sending and cancelling to make artists feel FOMO
>>6663827Happens frequently enough, especially artists who start off in the lower pricesCan you imagine snatching this for 4k yen?
>send request>+1 view on refences a few hours later>doesn't immediately acceptITS OVER
>>6663910Yeah they're a good artist, just don't be surprised if you don't get it delivered until the last couple days.
https://skeb.jp/@howa___4Post cheapies
>>6664295He accepted my request and let it go over the deadline.. unlucky I guess.
>>6664188I don't really get the view anxiety that much, but it does hit harder when you see ghe "average response days <1" on their page when more than a day has passed. Especially when you're a repeat commissioner. Sometimes I wonder if they open up the request and go "it's this foreign fucker again."
>found an artist that does exactly the sort of stuff I like, and has a great artstyle>not a cheapie, but is a pretty fair price for what you're getting>manage to get a request approved and deliverd right before they close up>months pass and they finally open again!>recommended amount has been bumped up to 40,000Like all power to them since people are clearly willing to lay that price. So know your worth and all that. But goddamn I didn't expect it to basically double.
>>6664299>accepted my request this morninguh oh...
>>6664332For what it's worth, while he was super late, he did deliver mine. Though I see his complete rate dropped down to 66%. Hmm. Uh, good luck to you, anon!
>>6664332His completion rate was at 80% something, it kept dropping ever since mine wasn't delivered. Maybe took more than he can chew
>>6664335I think he did actually mention that on his twitter
>>6664188>now it has 2 viewsUHHH SKEB BROS??>>6664301mostly memeing, but when I was first getting requests done, it's really easy to get into a habit of checking whatever method you have possible to see if the artist is working on it, it took me some time and just getting requests done to be more patient and be surprised when I receive it
>>6664369>>now it has 2 viewsSorry that was me
>>6663907Do they draw actual porn or just suggestive stuff?
>delivery on the last day>the artist didn't even write a Thank You on the picture or post it on TwitterWas my request that bad...
Pixiv borked for anyone else?
>>6663964looks like a kei wannabe, pretty cool
>>6664033He's not the vtuber. The artist mentioned the vtuber request was an appeal while we know anon's request isn't.
>>6664448Pixiv is down for me too.>500 internal server errorI just hope it comes back soon, i'm waiting for the delivery of a request.
>>6664033What >>6664452 said
>>6663705
>>6664493What the fuck my text got eaten.Seeing literally who people being happy over getting a Skeb really makes me feel all warm and fuzzy.One of the reasons why I prefer to commission literally whos over popular people.
>>6664493Cute, I'd get something from them but honestly not an artstyle I'd want right now
>Golden week passed>Almost none of my oomfs opened rheir requests
>>6664406I have no clue>>6664295https://skeb.jp/@310_244
What are some artists that draw good uooooh?
>>6663002Ooracuck...
>>6664702Surprised people still remember me after all this time. I havent really been around the /a/ drawthreads for years outside of the occasional general appearance
at this point i hope the artist doesnt deliver, i found a much better artist for the same price range and would gladly wait longer if it meant better quality than what im probably gonna get now
>>6664773artist?
>>6664774https://skeb.jp/@sekino_r18test
Sorry gaijins. The "issues" with the payment system on Pixiv is them trying to shut out foreigners from getting R18 requests.
>>6664867I just sent an r18 request though
>>6664777you asked for a vtuber?
Cheapest animation artist Ive seen. May take some time as it looks like they have a full workload thoughhttps://www.pixiv.net/en/users/72927321/request
>>6665009cheapest ive gotten is for 5k yen but the artist is obviously closed now
Damn seems like I stressed out the artist being the first person to commission them.
>>6665039>tfw havent taken any artist commission virginity to make them sperg on twitter
>>6665039>closedHow much were they?
>>66650483k. The roughs look much better than I expected.
>>6664510Woa really good quality for that price, thanks for the suggestion
>>6664295https://skeb.jp/@yuzu_Vt
>>6664295https://skeb.jp/@SZK3TV
>>6665057>nerumy man
Do you ever bother commissioning an artist for a fetish that they haven't drawn or shown interest in before? I'd want to commission a mostly vanilla artist for futa on female shit but he's never drawn that or yurishit before. Although ages ago he used to draw bestiality shit.
>>6665295I just ask in a dm.
>Found a cheapie the other day>They closed like five minutes after I found them>They opened again >They doubled their price>Do a 360 and walk away and then request the other cheapie I was talking with my friend with earlier today instead
>>6665370Learn geometry nigger
https://skeb.jp/@korocorne/works/12
>>6665398Newfagchama...
>>6665422I know the 4chan epic meme but it's cringe my nigger
>>6665283>85k+ followers>500 yenHow tf did they mistyped missing 2 zeros
Any bondage shibari artist open? I'm afraid I'll weird out normal skeb artist requesting kinky stuff.
Why is the commission thread on /aco/ gone?
>>6665517Russians got it banned
>>6665517Everyone got tired of the entitled trannies.
>>6665370>Request got approved>imgur album has a view alreadyWhat a wonderful way to start the week.
Commissioned an artist for the first time and they immediately accepted despite their average response time being 3 days only for them to do 50% of the work in the first week and then sit on the request for a month before cancelling it because they decided they'd rather keep drawing some fanart of a currently airing show. I was evidently their only skeb, too. Oh well, at least I got the satisfaction from tanking their 100% completion rate.
>send Pixiv Request to artist I like>Immediately accepted it when it was around 3 in the morning in Japan>Artist posts cover for a new doujinshi they're working on>Same characterI had the hope my idea could fit in with the doujinshi but it seems not, that would have been really cool.At least it's finished now so he can start working on my Request.
>>6665531Better than getting rushed shit like I did, can't do anything about that.
>>6665531Good thing that happened though. Now your money won't be wasted on such a prick.
https://skeb.jp/@nekonooteteumai/works/103k yen
>>66655485k now, but pretty nice
>>6665483They are insanely picky. They occasionally sketch out things they don't do but otherwise look at all the stuff actually posted
>>6665517My experience with the more western oriented artists here such as ones on /aco/ is that at best they feel overpriced compared to skeb, and at worst you deal with grifters and hucksters. I've done commissions through the /aco/ threads and /v/ and while there was a decent amount of good ones there were also insanely bad ones, the only time ive gotten scammed actually
6 days left until accepted request expires. Artist hasn't posted on twitter on over a month. I'm scared guys
This is the first time I've had more than one request accepted on skeb and I actually have three of them and I am going insane with anticipation I keep going to check the accepted that and the artists twitters every five minutes despite knowing there's no way anything is coming in any soon it's all I can think about please help how do I stop this.
>>6665704Yep, you got addicted to skeb like us. Even when I have email notifications on I still check the homepage to see if an art got delivered.
>>6665704I just learned to let go and not worry about it. Some days you wake up and get a pleasant delivery, or when you look at your phone at work and see a notification from your email, it's like a mini-Christmas.
I'm getting really sick of artists deleting and reuploading my requests. I requested a picture with 3 differences and 4 days later they deleted two of the differences.
>>6665735Did they paywall them afterwards?
>>6665735Not yet.
>>6665529>Two requests got cancelled>One of the artists didn't even bother to look at the references even tho it was his first skeb requestWhat a shit start of the week.
Do the artists get extra time to accept or reject a request past the deadline? It still shows the request as pending despite the fact that its over the deadline.
>>6665817a little bit
Fuck all the amazing Azur Lane artists that refuse to draw anything besides the girls in that game.
>>6665931I had a Blue Archive artist draw girls from another game but made it private
>>6665931i dont why you want me to fuck them, but I'll do it
>>6665931Id honestly rather AL than fate/go at this point and that's saying something.
>Phone notification sound rings>It's an email and see Skeb>Heart skips a beat>It's a recommended creators mailFuck you.
>>6666006>Recommended creators mail>All overpriced or garbage artThanks skeb, you really know how to pick em
>>6666006>>6666008>Recommended creators mail>Cheap artists BUT with okay to terrible artAlso they don't have their cherries popped yet so extra "no thanks"
>>6665931I'd take AL artwork over the overly abundance of GI at this point.
I just sent a request to a dude, twice what he was asking so 6k, and he changed his minimum to 6k right after I sent, I checked his page in an incognito tab to see if it was a skeb thing but nope, he changed it manually. Has this ever happened to you guys? What's the chances of my request getting canceled? He hasn't said anything about on twitter.
>>6666036>Artist increasing his prize after getting one request because he thinks that one request now makes him a god given gift to earth that everyone and their mom will fight for the chance to commission from now onHorrendously common. Don't think too much about it.
If an artist cancels a pending request, does that drop their completion rate?
>>6666050No
>>6666039>Horrendously common. Don't think too much about it.Thanks, honestly forgot some artists can be like that, just caught me off guard.
>>6664295https://skeb.jp/@hozumirikuseems promising for 2k
Hey anons, any recommendations for nsfw artists that do multiframe illustrations? I have a few favorites, but trying to branch out more, and their artstyles don't work with everything.
>>6665933got a link for them?
first accepted request to lapse. i expected it though
https://skeb.jp/@asanagi/works/25lol, faggot narugami requested a commission from asanagi
>>6666255imagine turning down a request from ceo-kun
>>6666260he probably paid 150ky with our money
my two marameisamu requests finally got cancelled after the deadline was finally reached.
-I like to draw cute girls in lustful situations. i would like to draw more NTR and corruption themes.欲情した状況でかわいい女の子を描くのが好きです。 NTRと汚職のテーマをもっと描きたいですhttps://www.pixiv.net/en/users/10927422https://twitter.com/SnowBox9
>>6666291Anything you don't draw?
>>6665488Late reply anon, I don't have any specific artists, but if you put 股縄 into the search and filter it to "accepting only" you should see plenty of artists open for what you want.
>go back to a cheap artist>they've deleted all their porn and no longer take commissionsaw
>>6666331Oh the Igrene commissioner is here? Is the more degenerate one here too? Do you guys talk?
If the artist gives me a cute gift file, I will commission them again 100% of the time. I'm a sucker for that shit
>one artwork looks much worse than their others, can see why they didnt put it on twitter but cmon you did it>other one artist ignored minor details, is fine i suppose, but zoom in and see they seemed to have rushed it compared to their won/other works even though it came out real quickmm
>>6666419>but zoom in and see they seemed to have rushed itdoes it look ok when viewed at the same resolution as the other works?because large canvas sizes are an age old digital artist trick of balancing out how linework looks when resized or zoomed out
>>6666459and i thought i was getting a good deal because i just like large pictures...
>>6666389I'm just happy when they are familiar with the niche character I request.
>>6666568I'm just happy whenever an artist accepts a request that includes a niche character to begin with. Hasn't happened to often, but it's always sad to see a rejection loke that, especially when it's from an artist who draws people's OCs or FFXIV character and all that.
So, might be a weird question. But anyone know artists that prefer minimal directions, and want to draw something however the hell they want? When I first started Skeb comms, I was real nitpicky with the details. But nowadays I find it more fun just giving them a character, a scenario, and then saying "do whatever you want." And getting surprised by the results.But I get that some artists actually find the lack of specific details stressful. So any recommendations for artists that do want that creative freedom?
>>6662985this board sucks
>>6666310Thanks anon, just saw my favorite artist is opening gonna comm them.This artist is great too but looks like there hasn't anyone pop their cherries yethttps://skeb.jp/@theory887
>>6666627artists can toggle that as a setting. you will see it on the submit request page. i've seen some but forgotten their names
Any artists that have the skill to pretty much draw anything in any art style? For example:https://skeb.jp/@N_sakurajyousuieven the puyo puyo ones have that distinct late 80s style, hes closed now though, i will probably commission him when he opens but i would like to see alternatives.if they are within the 5k to 15k range even better.
>>6666817Kiiko for sure.https://skeb.jp/@Kiiko_clip
how long does it take to get your money back from a rejected request?
>>6667206It depends,with a debit card it can be immediate, or it can take less than a week.I think they updated something because now i get my money back instantly.But last year, it took basically 4 or 5 months every time, it was really annoyingWith a credit card i heard it's also immediate.If you're worried about the possibility of never getting your money back at all, don't worry about it, it will be back.
>>6667206I got my money back in 5 days with a prepaid credit card.
>>6666808Oh, I think I know what you're talking about. I think I've only seen it once, but it's like a little notice where you write out the request right? Thanks anon, I'll keep a look out for that.Wish they had that as an option you could filter by. I'm too addicted to Skeb at the moment to stop, but they could really work on their search system.
>>6666737Oh damn, that artist's pixiv portfolio is pretty great. Surprised no one popped their skeb cherry yet. I wonder if it's because they haven't got requests, or maybe they just haven't accepted any of the ones they've gotten? Their artstyle is pretty good, so I'd be surprised if it's the former.
>artist rejected my request without looking at my reference sheet
>>6667397>artist rejects my request and then posts on twitter how he wishes that skeb was only for japanese people
>>6667401Post tweet or bullshit.
>>6667401Thats too funny. Please post it
Fuck skeb artists that wait last minute and don't even bother the keep the censor in a different layer
>>6667469>don't even bother the keep the censor in a different layerIsn't it against the rules to do that?
>>6667401What the fuck
>>6667472iirc they only care that you censor it for the preview, they don't manually check every file to see if artists are evading that rule by keeping the censor on a different layer
>>6667478keeping censors on a separate layer is still against the rules but yes they probably don't check EVERY file however most artists don't want to risk it sadly
>>6667497I simply pick artists who don't give a fuck and upload uncensored versions on twitter
Am I just autistic or is there nothing more enraging than an artist who seemingly doesn't even bother to look at the references you provided before (or after) accepting a request. It just feels like an instant red-flag to me that they don't actually give a shit about your request and may cancel it whenever they feel like it.>Make a request to one artist.>Has viewed the reference page multiple times even though I know he's already familiar with the character and has three months to finish it if he wanted.>Meanwhile, another artist I requested a different thing from only has a week left out of the month he had and still hasn't viewed that one's page even once.
>>6667469I can understand the last minute part, but I don't think most artists will want to take the risk with the layers when artists have had their skebs taken down for much less.
>>6667540I like when artists have those sorts of eyes, it's really pretty
>>6667540I know you said before you don't have an OC but I honestly think you should. You'll get even more art
>>6667469I retract my statement, they sent uncensored ver, they're fine in my book
>>6666295Ooracuck...
>>6667614Not me this time
Who even does uncensored stuff on skeb? I’m kinda curious
>>6667401Post the tweet you liar.
>>6667619https://skeb.jp/@wanwa90321461https://skeb.jp/@catistennsi1Both of these artists posted uncensored off site after they completed my skeb request
It makes me happy when bigger artists like art of my OC on twitter..
>>6667635Do they include the uncensored versions in the psd files?
>>6667648Nope
>>6667619maybe not the best idea to ask here if other Japanese are viewing the thread
>>6667650Kind of sucks. Did they give you any way to download the uncensored version?
>>6667706I just downloaded them from twitter/baraag when they posted them
5 accepted, all 5 passed average finish dates for each artist. The suspense is brutal honestly
>>6667789well that is how averages work, anon
>>6667401Imagine lying because you got rejected kek
Any recs for artists that like drawing "Bad end" sorts of stuff? Felt kinda bad after an artist drew one for me, but said they felt a little uncomfortable drawing that sort of art.
>>6667789Honestly, with how popular Skeb has gotten recently I wouldn't stress too much about it anon. Pretty much all my regulars who used to bang it out in a week tops are now hitting it close to the deadlines. But I feel you though, whenever the numbers don't match the usual stats I do get the anxiety too.
>>6667926Well, no one likes being part of bunch that makes the average higher rather than lower.
>Skeb due in 2 weeksstartin to worry bros
>skeb due in 4 daysplease let it expire, the skeb was for a special occasion but it already past a week ago, my fault for thinking the artist would finish it with time to spare though
> Submits hours before the deadline.> Doesn't even follow the request other than the character and just draws his usual shit, blatantly obvious a rushed job.His price spiked up by 6k after my request for some reason, all the same I would recommend to hard avoid.https://skeb.jp/@k2ta7
>>6668373Thanks for the warning. Went ahead and blocked him. People like him don't deserve my money.
>>6668373everything but the fertilization cut-in seems to be there, no?
>>6668414>ask for a sex scene>draws a pinup with a monochrome doodle on the bottom where you can't see anythingCome on now
>>6668416Also, anon wanted a creampie and that's definitely not included.
>>6668373I'm glad you mentioned he spiked his price up, because I'd be furious if I paid nearly 20k for that result.
>>6668373Couldn't even tell what the second panel was supposed to be at first, sorry to hear you got fucked though anon
I heard there's a price multiplier based on how much request artist fulfilled and that's why price is going up upon artist completing their work, but could anyone confirm about such feature exist?
>>6668373>https://skeb.jp/@k2ta7No offense, but this guy didnt even look like he was worth 6k
>>6668573>The amount will change daily and is calculated using statistics from requests sent by your followers and requests received by creators with similar tendencies to you.>The amount will increase each time you receive a request and decrease after a number of days have passed since the last request was received.If you leave the price to the automated system, it will change based on one of the two.
>>6668584So I see people often complain about some artist jacking up the prices after their request but that was intentionally from artist not this multiplier stuff?
https://skeb.jp/@hikka06Pretty cheap, what's the catch?
>>6668606sure
>>666861616+ days
>>6668583None taken, in hindsight was too horny and didn't think things through when I sent the request.
>>6668629I get you, I guess im sometimes liable to do the same. I would never take such an unneeded risk for 14k though. There are so many just way better artists hovering around the 8-15k range its crazy. Typically I don't even like disparaging artists because its all subjective as long as they are getting business, but 14k just to be mediocre AND fuck you over is a crime, actual robbery.
>>6668616extreeemely simple artsyle.come on man, even you can draw like this.
>>6668616Quality is inconsistent so you never know what you're going to get.
>>6668629Figure collectors call that "Dickbuying" or "buying with your dick"Very common, always fap before making a purchase then go to bed, if after that you still want it then go for it.
It's been like two months. When the fuck are they delivering?
>>6669063The last minute
It seems that I have successfully popped an artist’s skeb cherry.If that is true ,the first work will be the skeb girl(which I requested)
>>6669097holy shit thats based. please post it in these threads when its outis it NSFW?
Asked for one and they gave me three cute illustrations...https://skeb.jp/@kanichiri/works/10
>>6669102You must really like this artist since almost every request they've done is for you. Also, why do some of your request to them include both English and Japanese while others include just English but no translation or justt Japanese?
>>6669098That’s SFW. Maybe try requesting NSFW next time
>>6669105I use DeepL for everything - sometimes I just forget to include either parts when I'm sending the request in a hurryThe artist themselves draw a pretty cute Nazrin, and they always deliver very fast compared to most other artists.
>>6669106damn, how much was it?
>>6669102Should be obvious why, but thats nice. The most I've commissioned the same artist was 2 times
>>66691086000 jpy , The default price is 5000 jpy though.
this might sound weird, but could somebody make a skeb request for me?im tight on cash but i really want to see a certain artwork of a character drawn by a specific artist
>>6669126What did you have in mindI won't do it myself but I'm wondering what you were looking for
>>6669128Basically this artist draws a lot of Yu-Gi-Oh charactershttps://skeb.jp/@yaibakenand I really wanted to see Ghost Sister from the YGO card "Ghost Sister & Spooky Dogwood" basically presenting herself for anal by having a "seal" or bandaid over her vagina. I'm not really that picky but a pose that would suggest "anal only"It's really nothing that interesting but I have a thing for nuns being lewd, especially with the nun outfit like hers
>>6669148>7kReally nigga? Save up
>>6669174What would you say if it was 20k?
>>6669175Really nigga? Save up
I feel like there's a at least 1 grade A troll or simple asshole in this thread....
>>6669187If telling poorshits to pay for their own commissions makes me a troll, then so be it
so i just got back my first ever pixiv request from an artist i like and i love it. only thing i'm disappointed at is that i hoped for a gift file and for the image resolution to be higher (i commissioned them on skeb previously and i got a higher res picture). now i'm considering messaging the artist if they have at the very least a higher res of the art, if not a psd even. how dumb of an idea is this? it probably isn't allowed as per pixiv guidelines but is it something that can get me banned? i also want to commission them again in the future, so is it better to not risk putting myself on their bad side?
>>6669199>>6669187It sounds harsh anon, but being real here if you can't afford a 7K skeb, then you probably shouldn't be seeking commissions to begin with. If you want to be cheap go to a cheap artist and hope for the best but expect cheap quality in return. If you want something better, either save or suck it up.Plus there's plenty of ways to afford pricuer artists even on a budget. There's ways you can split a payment into pieces and pay over time on Skeb if you look into it enough. I've done it a few times for artists who are in the 40,000+ yen range. But otherwise just eat the full cost upfront.
>>6669243Feel free to message them. I've done something similar and didn't get my balls busted for it.Just be as polite as possible, and make it clear it's not a mistake on their part. Just something you hope they can provide, and if not that's okay. Artists are usually fine with it as long as you aren't super pushy.
>>6668106This guy loves drawing girls with ugly bastards, so if you're into that, he's your guy. https://skeb.jp/@yomotake081This dude loves drawing small NTR comics and other types of bad ends. https://skeb.jp/@SxZR2A16XHqqQyB
>>6669264I always found it weird how people budget commissions. Honestly the way ive been able to get some amazing stuff is to find like minds
>>6669148Wasn’t he 5k earlier this week? I was thinking of commissioning him but I doubt he would draw my cardfu any good
>>6669336Hmm, interesting artstyle for the first one. I'll be sure to check them out whenever they open up again.The 2nd one looks pretty great too. Interesting to see some are in colour while others are monochrome. But the requests themselves don't mention colouration. I'm guessing it might be a difference in how much someone put into the request price?Thanks for the recommendations anon. Appreciate it!
>>6669268Thank you for the encouragement anon. I went ahead and messaged them and they willingly sent me the psd file with all the alternate layers (they said it's their first time using pixiv request so the gift file might not have been delivered properly). Feels good to get a great comm from a very nice artist.
>artist is clearly on twitter and doesn't reply to my dmat least they didn't report me to skeb
>>6669444Why even try it? Was the art that bad
>>6669447i wanted to see why they declined, because i still wanted art from them. if it was price, i could work on that, but i guess they just didn't like me
>>6669148good choice in handtrap wife, however i fucking hate anal and analfags and might have done this commission otherwise given how cheap it is poorfagalso this better not have been you https://skeb.jp/@yaibaken/works/26
>>6669458big forehead
https://skeb.jp/@eatoratoraMissed the deadline twice, first time they sent a request for a resend. And I was really hopeful, but 2nd deadline passed without any fanfare. Sucks cause I love their artstyle, and what was funny is they completed a request for the character I wanted. Just not mine.Their completion rate was by no means high, so it was a bit of a risk. But holy shit it tanked down all the way to 17%.
Can the same artist send you more than one appeal?
>>6669475if it were me, I would keep sending it over and over just to tank their % rate>>6669476probably
Just had a skeb pass deadline so I'm expecting a refund soon. Don't really feel in the mood to shop around for a different artist to take the request, so I thought it might be fun to maybe do a suggestion thing here?Basically I got 25K to spare, give me a character, a NSFW scenario, and preferably an artist (with open requests) in mind. Then I'll see what I can do. No promises it will work out cause Skeb ya know, but I'll try to make it happen.If you want a theme, maybe stuff more on the bad end sort of side? Isn't a dealbreaker if it isn't, just that those things tend to catch my attention the most. Preferably niche characters, since it's just kind of boring for me to commission characters that already have tons of art. But feel free to shoot your pitch anyways even if they are popular.
>>6669478You know what, fuck it I'm going to do that anon. No skin off my back, either I get the art or their rank tanks even more. Thanks for the spite motivation anon.
>>6669476Might be a dumb question but what makes an artist want to send an appeal to someone? I've gotten one in the past, but I had no idea why. So they just go off a list that says "these suckers have put in a lot of requests lately" or something?
>>6669526I guess? I mostly request art of my OC and got almost 40 appeals so far
>>6669264If you don't mind me asking, how do you split payments on time with Skeb? I don't see that as an option anywhere. Or do you just work it out with the artist offsite?>>6669486Cynthia from Pokemon, specifically her Renegade variant from Masters, giving Giratina a blowjob.
>never got a single appeal for any of my OCsDamn
>>6669486I'll toss my hat in, why not.Here's Nia Suzune, the vtuber i watch and get skebs for usually.https://twitter.com/NiaSuzune/status/1419921919701307392The NSFW scenario is that a muscular masked man is having her way with her and she can't resist. (Hopefully that's bad end enough for you) also I'll settle for just a muscular guy too.And the artist that I'd like for this is https://skeb.jp/@mknnkm2 but I'll settle for anyone else that you think works for this.It's cool if you dont do anything with my stuff tho, so dont feel pressured or anything.
>>6669526>So they just go off a list that says "these suckers have put in a lot of requests lately" or something?pretty much, if you check an artist that appealed you after a few weeks you'll generally see that one or two of the top ranked requesters got something from them since
>>6669486i won't ask for any characters but request some spread vaginas for me thanks
>>6669486Might as well try to give you an idea. One of my first anime was Yakitate!! Japan, where one of the main girls was a cute schoolgirl called Azusegawa Tsukino. She never really got much in the way of good art, though, hence why I want more. In the series itself, the main characters have to get through a lot of trials to avoid her family's bakery from going bankrupt or taken over. You could easily imagine a bad end scenario where they end up failing. And as a result, she ends up having to curry the favour of some fat businessman old enough to be her father by becoming his fuckslut to protect her friends. https://skeb.jp/@QGCCyecHmtFJVlI would be a good artist considering both the price-range and the kind of stuff he draws.
>>6669486Adding my ticket to the raffle:Katarina Claes from HamefuraShe's stupid and likes to eat, and I have a forcefeeding and amputee fetish. There's a male character named Geord that would be the most likely to inflict this but he doesn't need to be in it, 1st person pov would b fine. This isn't necessarily a bad end scenario though, she'd probably be content with it.
>>6669486Don't have an artist's but I'll give you a simple scenario.In the fighting game Project Justice, Zaki almost has a gang war with her delinquent gang against Daigo and his delinquent gang before it gets broken up. A nice bad end scene would be Zaki getting raped by a bunch of delinquents after losing the fight
Okay, honestly wasn't expecting so many replies. But hey, I was literally asking for it.>>6669531Honestly anon, I never usually request pokemon stuff, but just the fact you included Giratina has put it on the consideration list.Any artists in particular you might consider? Should be pretty easy to find one since Pokephilia is really dam popular, but figured I'd ask anyways.>>6669539She's pretty cutex and macho men rape is pretty standard bad end material. Added to the consideration list. Will see how it works out with the artist you linked.>>6669561Noted. Could probably ask for a difference involving that for someone else's idea.>>6669563This series seems vaguely familiar. This isn't the one where the manga artist made their own h-doujin for it by chance? The artstyle seems pretty familar.Anyway pillow business sorta bad end style. A classic, I dig it. Interesting choice of artist given the source material artstyle, but I'll see if I can give it a shot. If not I think I might have an alternative choice.>>6669570Not really my thing fetish wise. But weirdly I do follow an artist who does like this sort of thing. A firm maybe on this one, mostly because the artist is a busy sort.
>>6669486Have you played Trails in the Sky? In FC Estelle fights a mayor with some hounds as pets, I think a bad end based on that could look great, or having the mayor himself rape her and treat her roughly. I could give refs if you are interested
>>6669583Who do you like? I could probably think of something bold
>>6669583Cynthia x Giratina anon here. Unfortunately I haven't been able to find a decent artist myself. As long as it looks good and is uncensored I'm okay with anyone.
>>6669531Okay, anon. So this is a trade secret of mine, but it might be skirting the line of what is okay for Skeb. I haven't been hammered for it after doing this for months, but still only do this if you're okay with grey area stuff.I use this thing called Quadpay (or ZIP now, they rebranded), that let's you create a virtual card for an online transaction. Letting you pay the cost in 4. Say you have a $200 item. you pay $50 every two weeks.Well one day I was like, I wonder if this would work with Skeb! And, well, it did. Skeb accepted the payment method, artist approved, and I got my delivery while paying it off over the course of 6 weeks instead of all at once. And also as a bonus, since the app creates a virtual VISA card you can even use cards that Skeb normally wouldn't accept, like Amex.There is a caveat where you kind of have to make sure you're going for artists that approve quickly. Since the virtual card could expire before they accept. And refunds might act a bit wonky. But I don't know because I haven't had to refund when using this method yet.
>>6669670not the same anon, but a virtual credit card generator that lets you pay in installments is pretty cool and i'll keep this in mind
>>6669576On the consideration list. I think I have an artist who would probably dig characters from that sort of game.>>6669594Been meaning to play the series, but haven't had the chance to start. I know who the character is though, so either idea works. I'll put it on the list. Feel free to link the refs.>>6669597Off the top of my head, I guess I been hakering to commission something for the character Specter from Arknights. Cause shark nuns are hot. But haven't come up with any interesting ideas other than "gangrape in a confessional". If you have any other ideas shoot your shot.Otherwise if its a character with Silver/White hair I probably like them, so feel free to shoot any other bold ideas for those sort of characters.>>6669603Alright. Not really sure I can guarantee the uncensored part due to Skeb's rules. But we'll see.
>>6669684I mean. It's a blowjob and Pokemon cock. Even just showing the balls/equivalent but not the shaft or tip would be fine and count as uncensored. Thanks for considering my ideas, anon.
>>6669684Appreciate the consideration. Here are the refs for Dalmore and his pets, FC Estelle ref here. I don't know much about Ark Knights but I could try to find something you might like with nuns and/or silver hair as well. At least later. https://imgur.com/a/Ju0hhv0
>>6669684>"gangrape in a confessional"Sometimes simple ideas are the best. Do you have a page to where I can see the past stuff you commissioned? It sounds like you have some real taste
>>6669715Alright, saved the link anon. And thanks for the brainstorming too. It doesn't have to be nun related, but I do admit pretty much anything with white/silver will do for me. That fetish is pretty straightforward. I'm just running out of ideas since I try to give artists something more interesting than just "uh, have them raped.">>6669719https://skeb.jp/@Sigvald69https://skeb.jp/@aocooler/works/249Sure, feel free to take a look. Most are my ideas, but some are requests I made on other people's suggestions. The 2nd link is a request that I asked an acquaintance to put in for me. But that one was mine. Honestly most of it has been gacha shit so far, but I've been trying to branch out to things like niche light novel or manga characters lately. I'm pretty happy with the 86 one with Vladilena in particular for that one.
>>6669702No prob anon. By the way looking at the Cynthia outfit you specified, it looks like there is two versions. A black one, and one that is gold and white. Any preference for colour scheme, or should I just link both to the artist and have them decide?
I wish I could know if it's because of the character that my requests get cancelled.
>>6669750Always could be a factor. Sometimes the artists just don't want to draw certain designs. Mind saying what character you're asking for?
>>6669729Yeah sure. If you anchor something in the next thread or have another way to contact, I can try my best. Maybe I will give you something really juicy by the end of the week or start of next
>New request of following clients tab>the artists that draw Rape/NTR/R18G are asking for the most vanilla shit>the artists that do all vanilla are asking for fucked up shitIt makes sense in a way, but still funny to see.
I've learned from my mistakes, now every time I put in a request for a brown girl, I specifically add a reference to what skin tone color to use or else they'll make her 3 shades lighter.
>>6669781it was the opposite for me where they made my OC 3 shades darker. art was still great though
>>6669729>MichiahWell I was going to consider an idea with her, but it seems like you got that one covered kek.
>artist lowered his price to 3,000 yen until he reaches 100 completed requests
>>6669781The first skeb I did they made my OC white because i didnt specify skin colorhttps://skeb.jp/@wat_son_/works/60https://skeb.jp/@wat_son_/works/61https://twitter.com/wat_son_/status/1509813639926411265 (embed)this artist got 2 skebs for an april fools joke they did, genius for money making and great for me
>>6669834link em
>>6669850https://skeb.jp/@SilberSpoonprevious price was around 6k yen
>>6669789I mean, I'm open to doing repeats lmao. I was actually going to ask that artist to either do another Micaiah art, or something with Melia from Xenoblade. So if you got a fun idea with Micaiah shoot your shot! I'm open to pretty much anything.
>>6669856Actually, I kinda wanna see female Robin instead. Maybe a bad end where her ass is getting slapped and abused from one end while she is getting fucked from behind, and her twintails being used as handlebars when she is forced to give a blowjob. Maybe even Valentine's outfit for max NTR stuff but any will do
>>6669861Hmm, female Robin is a pretty good idea. And I do dig the FEH Valentine's outfit now that I'm looking at it. Consider it a done deal anon. I think the same artist I asked for the Micaiah one would be perfect for that. But there's a few other options. Thanks for the suggestion!
>>6669868Don't feel obligated to do anything. The fact you even put this offer out there is honestly pretty cool. Hopefully you get stuff you enjoy out of it
>follow furry artist on skeb>one guy skebs multiple pictures of the penguins from Madagascar getting raped>today a different person requested their FF14 character killing the rapists and saving the penguinsI love this shit
>>6669882based send the artist
>>6669884https://skeb.jp/@glaa_da
>>6669882https://skeb.jp/@glaa_da/works/18https://skeb.jp/@glaa_da/works/21https://skeb.jp/@glaa_da/works/46save the pengu
>>6669872Oh don't worry anon, I know my limits. I was already planning on putting a few comms this week. So pushing those back and putting the suggestions here instead is no biggie.Plus this was actually a lot of fun. It's nice to get suggestions for stuff I'd normally never think of commissioning. Might have to do this again in the future. Could be fun to make it an irregular thing, where I ask for a certain theme, and people pitch their ticket into the hat and we see where it goes.
>>6669882>>6669884>>6669886>>6669892The fuck this is actually real. Holy shit this is amazing. This kind of makes me want to coordinate something like this between different anons or some shit.
Normally I would get appeals when I received a delivered work, they would go on for about a week. But now I haven't had any request delivered for about a month now so I haven't gotten any appeals.I got my paycheck for the month and I've submitted 3 requests now, all of a sudden I've gotten an appeal an hour after submitting. Does skeb have some algorithm for artists to appeal to recent requests made?
>>6669458no i havent skebbed the artist at alli wouldnt mind a skeb without the anal thing, i just wanna see him draw her thighs and ass
>>6669895Yeah I'll be lurking. I have fun bouncing ideas off of people . Especially if characters with not a ton of art get stuff
>>6669531>>6669583>>6669603>>6669684>>6669702>>6669749Maybe late but here's my recommendation for a pokefucking artist.https://skeb.jp/@Lospa_mog
>>6669930Definitely not late anon, and that is a pretty perfect recommendation. In colour and multi-frame? That artist wasn't on my list, but they are now. Thank you!
>>6669882>>6669892this is so fucking funny to me
I don't know if my Skeb search skills are failing me, but for the life of me I can't find an artist with this niche. Sorry anons, but does anyone know an artist that does furry raping normal humans? I've found artists who fo furry shit only. I've found artists who do normal people (obviously). But not someone who do both. Well I did actually find 1 or 2, but they only did vanilla. So any recommendations?
>>6670005Check above you, the penguin rape guy seems to do both
>>6669749Sorry for the late reply anon. I prefer the black one but either is fine.>>6669930Never saw this artist before. Not really big on this style but that's just me being picky.
>>6669895yeah thinking about themed stuff was surprisingly fun, and im not even into bad end stuff usually
>>6669892lmfao I cannot believe this is a thing
>>6670007Ok I'm an idiot. Thank you anon, you've saved me from another few hours of hair pulling.
Any good breast feeding artists that don't exaggerate breasts? Tried searching for "breast feeding" and "授乳" on skeb but can't find any, or at the very least mommy(?) body type
>>6669895Let us know which ones you put in for and which ones are accepted.
>>6669583Hey thanks for being willing to do this for anons here! Could I have that feeder fetish artist name for research purposes?
>>6670219Yeah, I'll be sure to post an update on the status once I actually sort out which ones to do and which artists to pick. Maybe just make a notice saying it's been accepted.>>6670227Not a problem, it ended up being pretty fun for me. For the feeder one I mentioned it was an artist I recognized more for the "amputee fetish" half of that lol. https://skeb.jp/@disorder_rapeI think it kind of speaks for itself, but suffice to say I think forcefeeding wouldn't be too much for them.
>>6670235>https://skeb.jp/@disorder_rapeI sent requests to him multiple times before. I am planning to send request for choking sex next time(or request gyro/ryona as before)
>>6670235Berry nice, he seems to do a little of everything torturous. This is funny tho https://skeb.jp/@disorder_rape/works/44>nooo anything but goat tongues
>>6670235Yeah whatever you want to relay is cool
https://skeb.jp/@ddnzerdseems promising for the price. Instantly responded too
>>6670348Sedms pretty good, plus the complete speed average looks fast. That censor is kind of obnoxious though. Might give them a try.
>>6670372it's uncensored on his patreon (which is apparently down atm)
I have been wondering something..When a request goes past the deadline (and the artist uploaded the request to skeb some hours before the deadline)Does i have to wait for it to be checked by skeb's staff? or it gets "checked" automatically at the deadline?I am asking because before i had artists deliver exactly at the deadline hour as if it was programmed to be delivered at that time.Or can you actually get your request delivered after the deadline?
>>6669450This is why i would like skeb to let artists give you a reason why they declined a request, they can be premade answers such as "Price too low", "I don't like drawing that", "I don't have the skill to draw that", "i don't draw copyright characters", "not now but maybe next time" ,etc etc.Even if it was optional it would be fineWhen an artist declines, i don't like to feel pushy about it by sending them another request more than twice, i would like to know if they would do it for more money or if they simply don't want to draw it no matter the price.Specially those artists who take a long time to decline your request, they seem to wait for it to expire instead of being them the ones who decline it, as if they are scared of doing it themselves, feels like they are hoping you cancel the request so you come back with a higher offer, as if we could read minds.It's pretty annoying, i very much prefer them to decline quickly so i can move on to another artist.Or at the very least that they showed the response time of every single artist instead of being optional.Crazy that a very basic future would seem like "too much to ask" to skeb.
>>6670444Please understand having the artists have any kind of accountability would make them feel uncomfortable and we cannot have that here on Skeb not excuse me while I keep chocking on more artist big fat smelly cock.
Any good artists without 3-months deadlines?
>sent request at 1AM burger time>request approved 3 hours latter>already a few views on the reference albumYou fucking love it when you see it. Great start to the morning anons.
>>6670444The fact that we typically have to rely on bloody Twitter to have a chance of knowing why a request didn't go through really speaks for itself.
>Appeal>Sounds like he sent the same shit to multiple requesters>$220Fuck off
>>6670444>This is why i would like skeb to let artists give you a reason why they declined a request, they can be premade answers such as "Price too low", "I don't like drawing that", "I don't have the skill to draw that", "i don't draw copyright characters", "not now but maybe next time" ,etc etc.skeb will never allow anything that leads to communication. communication means they have to do more work, and acknowledge that skeb isn't a request box but an actual middleman to commissions.
is there a better feeling then seeing new views on your reference album?
>>6670011>Not really big on this style but that's just me being picky.Hey anon, still shopping around for an artist for the idea. But how do you feel about this person's artstyle?https://skeb.jp/@k_kp_18I'm still considering the other anon's suggestion. But I can see how it might not be your thing. So still looking for alternatives atm.
Hey anons, anyone know of an artist with a similar artstyle to pic related? Been trying to get some NSFW art of her but haven't had much luck so far. Preferably someone into rape/NTR. But I'll take what I can get at this point.
>>6670752Seen them before. Their art is a bit too cutesy for me. Found https://skeb.jp/@tr25510 in the similar creators section to the previous artist and I like the way their art looks. I wouldn't be against other alternatives though.
>>6670598https://skeb.jp/@dr_yukito
>>6670852We can't post cunny here silly.
new thread?
>>6671129You make it
>>6670852god i wish i knew someone with a style as soulful as ideoloplease share your hildas if you commission any anon
>>6671217Made the new thread. Feel free to hop in anons.
Good pixel arts?I've been waiting for him to open up https://skeb.jp/@yumurama
>>6663371Haha fuck that guy is still at it a year later? Based Arbokfag
>>6668373> That for 20kI feel for you anon