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Previous Thread: >>8225619

>LOCAL WEBUI SETUP
https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/wiki

>LOCAL FORGEUI
Forge: https://github.com/lllyasviel/stable-diffusion-webui-forge
Maintained fork (reForge): https://github.com/Panchovix/stable-diffusion-webui-reForge

>LOCAL COMFYUI
https://github.com/comfyanonymous/ComfyUI
https://comfyanonymous.github.io/ComfyUI_examples/
https://openart.ai/workflows/templates

>LOCAL MODELS
https://civitai.com/models/404802
https://civitai.com/models/288584
https://civitai.com/models/257749

>PAID
NovelAI: https://rentry.org/hdg-nai-v3
NAI API/prompting in A1111: https://github.com/Metachs/sdwebui-nai-api

>RESOURCES
Features: https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/wiki/Features
Training: https://rentry.org/59xed3 | https://github.com/derrian-distro/LoRA_Easy_Training_Scripts | https://github.com/bmaltais/kohya_ss | https://github.com/Nerogar/OneTrainer
Tags: https://danbooru.donmai.us/wiki_pages/tag_groups | https://danbooru.donmai.us/related_tag
ControlNet: https://rentry.org/dummycontrolnet | https://civitai.com/models/136070/controlnetxl-cnxl | https://huggingface.co/2vXpSwA7/iroiro-lora/tree/main/test_controlnet2
IOPaint (LamaCleaner): https://huggingface.co/spaces/Sanster/iopaint-lama | https://www.iopaint.com/install
Upscaler models: https://openmodeldb.info/models/4x-Nomos8k-atd-jpg
Booru: https://aibooru.online
4chanX Catbox/NAI prompt userscript: https://rentry.org/hdgcb
Pony-related: https://rentry.org/ponyxl_loras_n_stuff | https://rentry.org/ponyxl_lora_previews | https://lite.framacalc.org/4ttgzvd0rx-a6jf
List of useful A1111 extensions: https://rentry.org/8csaevw5

OP Template/Logo: https://rentry.org/hdgtemplate/raw | https://files.catbox.moe/xk99gy.png | https://files.catbox.moe/35bdt5.gif

>Related
>>>/aco/sdg
>>>/g/sdg
>>>/g/ldg
>>>/d/ddg
>>>/e/edg
>>>/u/udg
>>>/vt/vtai
>>>/vg/aids
>>>/b/degen
>>>/trash/sdg
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RRat: Spammer is now even making the threads that are past the bump-limit as to remove the buffer between /hdg/ and the board limit.
>>8226508
>>8226532
>>8226535
>>8170827
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>>8226579
This is honestly the funniest way to shitpost as he isn't breaking any rules at all but still able to terrorize an entire board
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>>8226592
very nice booba
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>>8226598
The funny thing is that I have heard they would ban you for less in other boards.
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>>8226592
please sir, no more, think of the saas users
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>>8226598
you can also just dump all the acoslop here, as long as it's jap ip or oc, never gets deleted anyway
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test
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>>8226617
2
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>>8226610
The character shouldn't matter either way, only the style.
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>>8226620
3
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>>8226625
Wait. Is that a pokemon or a human cosplaying as one?
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>>8226617
that's some good looking fabric
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>>8226632
its nai
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>>8226635
figures
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>>8226629
It's a pokemon
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>>8226629
If you can't tell, does it still count as furry?
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>>8226623
ofc, but it does
some time ago anon got warn for western ip characters in very clearly anime style and my comment making fun about it also got deleted because that's questioning moderation
you can shitpost here with any civit slop as long as it's "anime" like mario, ff, doa or zelda
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>>8226632
do you mean those latex shorts or the bedsheets
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>>8226651
Weird, the rules are pretty clear on that. Style and origin of images, not content. I used to post anime-fied Raven whenever it was brought up, and never had any trouble.
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>>8226655
the shorts, very nice shine
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ok last one
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I haven't given up on it yet
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>>8226667
good
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is the verdict out on illustrious yet?
pony killer or worthless abortion?
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>>8226672
it died in less than 24 hours, no more updates as it is going full closed source
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>>8226672
slop worse than animagine
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>>8226672
It's pretty damn neat. Interested to see if some finetuning can work out the issues with it. Styles can always be introduced with LoRAs but the inherent character knowledge and not having a fried TENC is insane.
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>>8226672
pony sidegrade
better for /e/, styles and characters; worse for sex
blows Tofu and Arti out of the water at least
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>>8226673
That's sad but expected. Would someone take up the challenge and try to do something with it? Is it even worth it to try?
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>>8226538
very interesting eye in this pic
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>>8226678
pretty much seems to be the model /e/ dreams of
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>>8226682
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Itn9aK-z54I
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>>8226682
angel's still willing even if the worst case scenario occurs, would need a new compute sponsor tho
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Thoughts?
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>>8226692
why doesn't he just provide compute to wdv who have had their shit together but been hung up on not having compute for months
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>>8226694
Cause wdv are a bunch of western troons?
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>>8226694
because they wouldn't have Control and wouldnt be able to go closed source after model 1
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>>8226694
Isn't wdv just one person again
I'm sick of solo bakers' ego trips
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>>8226698
it's like 3-4 iirc
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>>8226710
sir, sexy hentai goes to >>8222118
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>>8226698
the only ones i know that're confirmed working on it is neggles & derrian distro, probably one or two more
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>>8226711
>troll thread
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>>8226714
no, it's pony containment zone
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>>8226694
wdv had all the compute in the world and we saw what that gave us, as long as failggles is at the helm busy dilating instead of baking we're never seeing shit from wdv, give it up
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NAI still unmatched
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>>8226664
That's a nice MILF
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>>8226719
*in certain areas such as bbc and loli
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It's been a while since I checked /hdg/

What's new? Is everyone still using autismxl?
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>>8226688
Well at least there is that.
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>>8226729
We don't generate images anymore
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>>8226729
I never stopped using Nai
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I'm getting whiplash from the sudden anime
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>>8226692
sounds like they would give you few days of access to them for open source model, kick you out and train their own closed source one on the stuff you provided them for free
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>>8226741
but can it do doc croc 2.0
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Baked a illustrious lora for 2 hours,realize i didn't change the model from pony
Why can't I escape it
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>>8226755
RIP
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>>8226755
I assume that is Yaia (6 years old), correct?
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>>8226755
I assume this is the pony gen and as such "not anime", correct?
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>>8226766
That is an asanagi lora with a japanese gacha shit character.
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>>8226755
come back white man
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>>8226672
It easily beats launch pony
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>>8226675
imagine finetuning a outdated model instead of waiting for the latest one
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>>8226694
>wdv
>having their shit together
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>>8226774
I'll unironically sub to nai if v4 has a 16ch vae. So sick of this blurry mess after getting fluxpilled
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>>8226770
very nice
wish there was a way to have the hands like you are weighting them
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>>8226750
Sort of. I had to add dreadlocks, goggles, green bikini and then it starts to figure her out, but can't get the mask right even with multiple attempts, tagged or not. And other details are missing or wrong. Still pretty good for 250 images I guess, at least for an overdesigned gacha character.
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>>8226779
maybe with "breast lift" if you get lucky enough with the model going schizo
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Probably nobody is interested in this, but this is where all the Illustrious discussion is, so...
Female peeing / wetting / desperation lora for Illustrious: https://civitai.com/models/800565

It turned out really well and it only took one attempt. Better than my Pony version, which is why I'm of the opinion that Illustrious will basically obsolete Pony with time. We don't need the v1.0 model, the version we have right now already has more potential than pony and is more than enough. This lora is a good example of how you can emphasize and expand on concepts the model already knows pretty well. And the sketchy, messy, hand drawn style gets cleaned up by the lora as well.
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>>8226760
>There's now way in hell they gave tits to a 6 year old
>check bio
>holy shit
anyway 10/10

>>8226768
never played granblue I just like all of the doujins

>>8226769
here you go
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>>8226791
Obsolete pony using concept loras? Those are the reason we moved to pony in the first place.
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>>8226794
neck yourself sepia nigger
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>>8226791
>the sketchy, messy, hand drawn style gets cleaned up by the lora as well
Then your concept lora failed, because it is not supposed to style or composition beyond its scope.
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>>8226794
No what I mean is, the illustrious lora is overall better than the pony lora, despite using the exact same dataset. Better style, better variety, better learning of niche subconcepts, better everything basically. Illustrious feels like it has a broader knowledge base and more flexibility than pony, so probably any lora would turn out better on it. I guess only time will tell, but if I was a betting man I'd bet on Illustrious.
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>>8226801
am I wrong?
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>>8226806
Might be good news for a finetune. I would prefer we not need loras as much in the future.
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>>8222118
>>8222118
>>8222118
ponysloppers containment thread
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>>8226804
You're not technically wrong, but no concept lora is pure 100% concept with no style changes. The model doesn't know the difference between style and concept, it just learns everything about your images. The only way you could get a completely pure concept lora is to only train on images that perfectly match the base style of the model already, which is never true in practice.
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cum tribute lora
https://litter.catbox.moe/mtdvs3.safetensors
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>>8226813
loralets btfo
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>>8226809
Then I believe this is the right thread for me, as my artwork is inspired by traditional Eastern styles found in anime and hentai.
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Someone please make an anti-foreshortening embedding, this is getting ridiculous.
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I hate having a 4gb vram gpu. Back when it was 1.5 era without reforge improvements i wasnt even able to go beyond 768x768...
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>>8226821
Have you thought about getting a better gpu?
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>>8226821
galkobox?
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>>8226824
I'm not the noodledude, tho
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>>8226818
the opposite of pony then uh?
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>>8226824
rent-free
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>>8226833
kys yourself noodlecunt
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>>8226792
Sorry anon, but your waifu was so cute I had to try and copy her and put her into the centrifuge for extensive g-force training.

Also Illustrious learns fast but some artists are deep fried and you have to turn down strength a little.
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>>8226837
Wrong number.
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short king bros...
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>>8226844
the illustrious experience
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>>8226783
but can it do pirate croc...
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>>8226845
it's pony
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>>8226826
Post an image and i'll think about it
>>8226822
yeah working on it atm. i am definitely buying a new pc
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>>8226846
heh, no way

Also I found out tricorne is completely overfit on genshin's Clorinde. There aren't enough pirates on danbooru.
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>>8226853
so crocclose... yet so crocfar..
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>>8226685
Except it can't do backgrounds. And by now most people got brainwashed by the highlighter, so those are a necessity.
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>heh, if i mention myself in third-person people might play along!
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made by first illustrious lora for an artist I like. The artists name is KCC_9646. No activation tags.

https://files.catbox.moe/677kao.safetensors
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>>8226869
ohhh I thought you meant kccc
well those starry eyes are kind of cool
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>>8226869
based, moe miqo
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Why did nai train in fp32? H100s have a measly 50 tflops there, that's half the power of a 4090. Compare that to 1.5k tflops in fp16.
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>>8226879
because they can
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>>8226879
unlike localkeks and their shitty underbaked 1000 step loras, nai doesn't make quality tradeoffs. your post reveals your ancestry, it's clear you care more about rushing shit out the door than delivering a top-quality release.
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>>8226879
didn't know better
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>>8226885
You could use mixed precision or switch during finetuning
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>8226833
>8226842
kys
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>>8226729
no, mods ban autismmix when it gets posted
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Think people actually go back more than five posts to check who you replied to?
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>>8226897
Do you even have a reason to feel insecure?
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>>8226885
Hope they trained v4 on h200s at fp64 then
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>>8226908
Why is it so artifacted
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>>8226917
Normally knights go on quests to obtain lots of artifacts, it's a common fantasy trope
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>>8226919
where is her anus
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>>8226923
The Demon King must've stolen it
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>>8226931
holy hips batman
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>>8226931
hentai!
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>>8226879
they trained in TF32 mixed precision, not full FP32
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>>
Loras turn out real good and accurate on Illustrious. Has anyone tried or succeeded merging loras into the Illustrious checkpoint? All my attempts have ended with the result looking way worse.
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Thigh cam
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>>8226922
basically this but small instead of large breasts
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>>8226966
thanks
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So that's all it takes, huh?

https://files.catbox.moe/wtfob3.png
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Do my Furinas look like slop, anon?
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>>8226839
no need to apologize anon, I've done way more fucked up things to her
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1girl... standing...
https://files.catbox.moe/7pekix.png
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>>8226973
on the edge?
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>>8226973
Peak AI but please consider making a nude version if you have the time.
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>>8226970
>Actually draws her specific heterochromia.

Nope. Not at all.
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I guess I'll just go back to these two trains
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>>8226592
box?
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>>8226979
Thanks, anon! Anything you think I should focus on to improve?
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>>8226941
hentai!
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>>8226985
Possibly also train her vision/accessories to get better results.
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>>8226992
hot
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>>8226966
based negs btw
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>>8226973
1girl standing is its own art form.

Illustrious sorely needs a detailer.
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>>8226973
>>8226997
IllustriGODS I kneel
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illustrious just works
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>illustrious fucking up colors
Any idea why?
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>>8226931
>>8226987
unironically post more please
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>>8227002
CFG scale probably, for me it functions almost like a contrast slider
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>>8227001
catbox
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>>8227001
Why is it so blurry?
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>>8227008
Because it's focused on the foreground, anon

Non-AI pic for comparison
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>>8227005
https://files.catbox.moe/p8i6aa.png
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>>8227004
Damn, I think you are right. But lowering it makes the picture look worse too...
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>>8227003
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>>8226992
peak
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>>8227024
so this is the power of 5 loras...
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>>8227024
>pony loras with gooknai
what are you doing anon
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HERES YOUR NAI OPEN SOURCE
ENJOY!
https://github.com/NovelAI/novelai-aspect-ratio-bucketing/
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>>8227030
they're really confident in this new arch huh
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>>8227030
>>8227031
v4 is gonna suck your dick and call you a good boy while you gen
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>>8227031
it doesnt have to beat anything except local, and they already are by a wide margin. v3 was a competence moat, v4 is an intelligence moat. without SAI to spoonfeed shitty base models to finetune, local will have absolutely ZERO chance of catching up
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>>8227040
box?
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>>8227042
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why the fuck does illustrious do this duplicated/shifted shit so often? i'm already having to reduce my upscaling and lower denoise way more than i ever had to on 1.5 or even pony. is there any snakeoil that can help remedy the duplicated navels issue?
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>>8227042
Whoops
https://files.catbox.moe/qkd3gy.png
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>>8227046
just use anytest on a light weight when upscaling
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>>8227048
ty, very nice style anon.
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can someone provide the easiest possible guide to try fine tuning flux? I have 24gb vram and like 2k images tagged

Is it better to just do a lora?
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>>8227056
>flux
>24gb vram
bare minimum for a full finetune is 75gb
do a lora
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>>8227043
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>>8227058
mashu my faithful wife.....
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Do you think euler or DPM is coming out better?
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>>8227051
Anytest has an upscaler? I thought it was only for controlnet.
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>>8227063
you use anytest as a controlnet when upscaling
upscale your original gen with esrgan
use that as the anytest input
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>>8227062
I feel like the sampler is the least of your problem
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>>8227062
both look really bad, sampler doesnt make difference here
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>>8227066
Ngl if I didn't look too closely at this, I'd assume it was actually M-da
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>>8227068
It is, I hacked his pc.
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>>8226978
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>>8227070
Who the fuck are you
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>>8227062
Ayakon more like BEGONE
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>>8226538
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>>8227068
you are delusional
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>>8227067
it's pony
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>>8227062
looks nice to me, are these all seething naiposters?
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So trolls are trying their best to push pony out of this place huh? You literally can't post a pony pic without being ridiculed now. What the fuck is wrong with some of you?
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no one on either side likes Ayakon garbage
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>pony
why is it so curry???
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>>8227082
yeah it's shills angry that ayakon does art unachievable by n*i
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>>8227088
So post something, you disingenuos nogen twat.
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>>8227092
what schizo shit are you even talking about
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>>8227028
rookie numbers
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>>8227093
aaaahhhh! sexy hentaiiii!!!!
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>>8227094
fuck astroturfer
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>>8227061
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>>8227094
a poster often adds a username to filenames, this has made some people very angry
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>>8227102
issue is that he posts fucking garbage
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illustrious really is fucking shit at upscaling nude bodies wow
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>>8227105
it's pony
can't expect much
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raw slime girl /ss/
cant seem to do seethrough x-ray
https://files.catbox.moe/yttdee.png
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>>8227108
that's true but his posts are especially awful
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>>8227105
it's mostly fine just not the flat anime some people demand here
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>>8227114
>flat anime
my favorite strawman by acosloppers, add also that from 90s or something
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disney pony posters should be bullied out of here now that we have a real model
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>>8227057
kohya made it work on 10, 12gb
though it would be very very slow
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>>8227114
it's bleak, boring, always shitty expressions and full of tiling upscale artifacts like vaginas growing from armpits
"it's not le 2d" is a shitslopper cope, plenty of good posts that aren't flat but look good
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>>8227120
wasnt it loras he made work on 10 & 12
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>>8227124
he did, but he also recently made finetuning work by switching blocks between gpu/cpu or something idk how it works
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>>8227100
mashbox?
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Am I shadowbanned?
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>>8227109
I cannot make prompts now, but did you add see-through body?
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>>8227060
catbooooox?
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what are all these and should I care about any
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>>8227135
local snakeoil nonsense to cope with their 1epoch finetunes. just ignore it
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>>8227133
yes I pushed the weight pretty high too but I havent really done extensive testing, maybe it would work with pov cowgirl
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>>8227131
https://files.catbox.moe/212y9y.png
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>>8227137
There are about 300ish images on danbooru you can use for training though, should that fail.
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>>8227074
Hackerman.

>>8227100
she knows to always come back.
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>>8227066
box please
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guys whats better $1699 worth of Anals? or 5090?
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>>8227135
Use Perturbed for slightly better detail consistency.
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>>8227149
>5090 at launch
>5090 anytime within the first 4 months
LOL
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>>8227148
https://files.catbox.moe/chjboa.png
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idc about new releases but if a 5090 launches I hope for cheaper 3090s
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>>8227149
5090
think of all those pony gens you can whip up
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>>8227029
I'm on a mission
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>>8227149
try $2k+ roru
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mao?
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>>8227073
Thank you Bro.
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>>8227149
5090 so you can bake 25+ loras until you realize the base model is simply shit then the intrusive thoughts start creeping in about how you should totally try training your own better finetune as you reach for your empty wallet, sadly realizing just one is simply not enough
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omelette du fromage
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>>8227149
>$1699
you mean $2599
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Anons I have a scene idea but I have no idea how to do it and I'm not seeing any loras for it. Basically, I want to have a girl crawl through a vent or some kind of tight space with a back view angle. Any tag ideas on how to do this? The tight space is the hard part.
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>>8227179
try tags like from behind, stuck, through wall, ass focus
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>>8227179
model a tunnel in blender, just a few cubes stretched, flip normals, cut some of the cube faces off if you want
put a random character model in. pose the character, light it, render out in eevee or something quick.
sketch over it in your tool of choice to add character specific shapes for clothing, expression, whatever else
img2img once to apply style, inpaint to refine.
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>>8227179
order up
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>>8227184
you are out of your mind if you think that most people are even going to go past step1
easiest way to do it is to find a pictures close enough to his idea, do some change to match what he want then send it to CN
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My cute onsen wife
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OUR wife
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I was thinking about how interesting it would be to recreate all the Tsukihime H-scenes in the remake style, and maybe have someone port them in or at least have them put next to the text. There are decent enough loras for most of the characters now, but getting the poses just right is tricky.
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>>8227203
just i2i the original pictures with a style loras on top of it
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>>8227203
i2i with denoise set low enough (not too low) that it changes the style, not the composition, use anytest as well to help mitigate changes that might be cause be the denoise/LORA
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>>8227204
That's what I've been doing, but there are issues with that. First, they'll stretch a bit, which will look a bit wonky. One solution I had was to expand out the image. Here's an example of one of the CGs expanded out, before I did it.
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>>8227215
The issue is, for more complicated poses like that, like with one arm behind her back, it's more likely that you'll get either both or neither. Not to mention some of the character loras are a little shit and have some artifacts. Wouldn't look as good as the real game, obviously.
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>>8227222
this is literally what anytest was made for how are you struggling
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>>8227222
thats so fried what are you even doing
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>>8227227
>score_9, score_8_up, score_7_up, score_6_up, score_5_up
>Illustrious-XL-v0.1
calm down slopmancer
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>>8227237
it was actually an old gen I img2img with illustrious
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>>8227225
Be my guest if you want to do it instead. But even the preview images for the remake Ciel pony loras are pretty fried. And I don't know what anytest is.

This is a different lora which had a bit better results, but still not amazing. Don't know if doing all the CGs would even be worth doing with results like these.
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>>8227230
kinogen
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>>8227179
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>>8227076
box?
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>>8227200
https://files.catbox.moe/o00y64.png
https://files.catbox.moe/4bai7r.png
https://files.catbox.moe/j4w6j2.png
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what's thenbest way to upscale?
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>>8227134
https://files.catbox.moe/bxctik.png
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> the zankuro lora works in flux
I will have ripped my dick off of my body by the end of the day
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>>8227255
based wife enjoyer
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>>8227256
Second this
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>>8227257
Why censor
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>>8227266
Blame Illustrious, not me
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>>8227258
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>>8227267
>mosaic_censoring
huh?
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>>8227267
Never mind, blame me

I'm retarded
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>>8227279
>prompt 6boys
>get 7
NAI is such a joke
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>>8227282
Find the reverse trap
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Is there an ADetailer model that looks for both hair and faces rather then just the face?
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Less than one week remains until the NAI two-year image-gen anniversary, where they will surely begin the teasing for V4. I can't wait for the ultimate sour grapes
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>>8227285
Could try this, do it in another pass, first hair then face.

hhttps://github.com/prashants975/Beard-Hair-Image-Segmentation/tree/main/models
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yeah but can you gen *obscure character or OC from long forgotten media*? I thought so.
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OUR wife
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wow its the same style and the same positions and the same shtick yet again
here is your based nice wow great
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>>8227298
thanks bro
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now time to go restart that router
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wouldn't expect anything less from troon general
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reset complete
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Okay, how do you install anytest?
https://huggingface.co/2vXpSwA7/iroiro-lora/tree/main/test_controlnet2
There are like 32 different files here. I have no idea which one to use. I'm using A1111 if that's relevant.
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Illustrious sure likes to alternate between poo and great with every other gen
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there is some guy on twitter called setsu with 300k+ followers using ai and pretending they don't, they do weird engagement bait undress games on alt accounts. looked at their kimono and its the most low quality NAI gen's I've ever seen wtf. seems to have an insane amount of patreon supporters too
https://kemono.su/patreon/user/90682659
how the fuck do they even get this many with such low quality content?
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>>8227318
>setsu with 300k+ followers using ai and pretending they don't
>setsuAI
??
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shuten-wife anon, you're inspiration to us all
https://files.catbox.moe/klur58.png
>>8227317
just use this at like 0.7
https://civitai.com/models/798443/some-style-for-illustrious-xl
really stabilizes all the samplers, making it less gacha
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all the top earners use nai. i dont get why freetards dont just buy a sub. they could literally fund their own finetune if they all coordinated a massive slopbucket and pooled their funds together. guess they just aren't that smart.
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I haven't done this in a few years, is SD1.5 still fine or is there better shit now?
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>>8227331
https://civitai.com/models/795765/illustrious-xl?modelVersionId=889818
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>>8227331
Theres other stuff but you don't need them as 1.5 background are SOVL
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>>8227334
I CAME
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>>8227334
why can no one recreate how backgrounds were done on 1.5
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>>8227338
cuz i don't want them
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>>8227333
Why most of the preview images below look so dull?
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>>8227294
Find me a checkpoint that can generate Eliza Leagan. No, I am not questioning you. I am fucking begging you. I cannot find any.
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>>8227341
you can't post loli porn there
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>>8227342
just how ancient are you?
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>>8227344
I was browsing 4chan when it was called Raspberry Heaven. I had to hire porters to get my manga. My first eroge was in Win3.1. I am an originalfag.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9hTMCNgwaU&ab_channel=reyncoat
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>>8227287
>spent the last two years with without nai
>somehow you expect me to do so now
you really expect people that didn't cave when the last versions come out to cave now
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>>8227346
based
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>>8227347
you seem to misunderstand. if everyone switched to NAI things would simply be boring. there's no fun in that. the true drama emerges when the SEAtards/freetards start sour-grapes seething, defiance slowly withering away as all hope flees from their posts, their ancestry betraying them as they collapse to their knees begging for keys, a pathetic act so etched into their very DNA.
that is the true art that transcends all other
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>>8227352
>SEAtards/freetards start sour-grapes seething
you keep calling them this but they're the ones who can afford a gpu instead of just a 25 dollar monthly sub. i'm beginning to think this is just projection from a poorfag
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any developments for AMD cards recently?
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>>8227353
It is kinda weird to hear that, I have rig that cost me fucking 4k but I "be freetard" kek. I just have a habit of not letting my penis think for me financially, weird I know.
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>>8227357
that guy is a shitposter but "freetard" doesn't mean what most people here think it means
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>>8227357
>no gen
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>>8227357
poor people are poor for a reason. they make impulsive decisions that are bad financially, and then make excuses for why they had to make those decisions. the "your poor for not paying for nai" is their cope for burning 25 dollars a month in the air because their penis likes ai images and thinks for them
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>>8227360
not saying that everyone should pay for nai but if 25 dollars a month is of any consideration to you, you are already piss-poor african-tier, yes
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>>8227362
>anon pretends like it's not known that a minimum wagie makes enough money for a 25 dollar a month subscription
nice zinger anon but you're still a retarded poorfag. 25 dollars a month would be a consideration to any wealthy person (aside from retarded nepo baby millionaires). the fact that you think a 25 dollar a month purchase isn't worth caring about "because you can afford it" is exactly the same type of mindset poor people have. are you poor anon?
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>>8227365
25 dollars a month is 300 dollars a year. If 300 dollars a year is a serious financial burden to you, then you are poor. I don't mean that as an insult. It's just the truth.
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>>8227362
Why the fuck would I though? Should I just go subscribe to every fucking thing in the world, just cause I can afford it? Bro you gotta think a bit more about self, this aint healthy.
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>>8227357
"Freetard" means a foss fanatic, not a poorfag. Calling everyone who doesn't sub a "freetard" isn't a correct use of that word btw, it only applies to people who melt down due to mere existence of nai and closed models in general, like we've seen with gooknai where freetards immediately started seeing shills in their walls while asking for gibs.
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>>8227366
>ignoring the point
congrats you learned how to do math. want to say anything actually relevant, because you just sound like a broken record at this point
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>>8227369
I'm a different guy. Plenty of people think you're retarded, not just the nai-shill. I don't pay for nai because I like open source shit, not because $25 is a burden
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>>8227371
if you're gonna pretend to be different people you should at least change how you type. why are you so shit at shitposting?
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>>8227371
>>8227375
please do post the screenshot of these posts after unchecking the you box. this is the next step in your epic shitpost right?
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>>8227365
25 dollars a month for a thing you enjoy and actively use is not much, yes. If it is, you are actually destitute.
>because you can afford it
Because you enjoy it. If you don't, I don't see any reason to pay indeed.
>>8227367
No? Pay if you want to use it. Or you think I'm the falseflagger shill? I don't care if you use nai or not, especially now when there's a local alternative that doesn't look like fucking vomit.
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>>8227353
that's the beauty of it all. you can buy 4x5090s and you still won't get near the quality NAI offers. that's the quintessence of the sour grapes war, and PRECISELY why they get so sour.
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>>8227380
that's the beauty of it all. you can buy all the cluster and you still won't get near the quality FLUX offers. that's the quintessence of the NAI Shills war, and PRECISELY why they get so pissy.
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>>8227380
so if them being poor has nothing to do with it why do you call them poorfags? i think you're unironically poor and compensate for it by trying to make fun of people who can afford a gpu because you can't. after all, anyone that can afford a decent gpu and afford a 25 dollar sub if they chose to. maybe one day you'll get a raise so you can upgrade your gt 430 to a used 1080, rajeesh. keep hoping!
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>muh text on signs
is this really the best local has to offer? pointing to a model they don't even use as some sort of gotcha? they cant even point to pony or illustrious because even they know they suck. pathetic state
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>>8227394
>he can't think of any way to denigrate flux other than bringing attention to the fact it does something nai can't
truly mindbroken shitposter
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>>8227393
why are you getting so worked up over a blatant shitposter. you okay anon? lol
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>despite shilling flux every thread, he still can't manage to find an /h/ finetune for it
even localkeks can't help but beg for handouts
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how can I get free anals?
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>>8227398
>non response
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>>8227400
wait for kurumuz to start dropping keys like he does every release, and hope you're faster than the rest of mumbai
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Poor NAI shills can't even imagine a world where kurumunz will deliver a model that will actually follow prompt and do details correctly. It's ok bros, I love melt too
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>>8227402
i'm serious
guy is literally using thread as a toilet and you keep replying to him like you're having an actual discussion
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>>8227398
i was just thinking about what motivates someone to shitpost like this. it's not even funny and it's been going on for so long i'm starting to think they're not being ironic. look at how many posts he's spamming now that someone actually questioned him about it
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the only one melting here is you, freejesh. go back to your greyscale underbaked scraps
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>>8227408
he's mentally ill
either actually hates freetards to the point that he comes here every day to remind everyone about it
or a falseflagger nai hater who wants people to hate nai and justify making a split general
either way, severe mental illness
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why is no local baker tuning flux??? didnt neggles work on flux? where's waifu diffusion flux?
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>>8226982
catbox?
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>>8227413
As passionate as I am for seeing my favored girls in better checkpoints, I cannot afford it. 2500 for a GPU is waaaay to expensive.
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it's too, freejesh
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>>8227431
Why are you having a meltie, bro?
Is it because of that gooknai situation?
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>>8227413
Troongles didn't work on flux directly, bfl fired him and he lost access to their cluster so has no compute. Not that anyone should've expected anything regardless considering the "results" he gave when he had access to their cluster were even worse than jordachs ever ascending 1b epochs and he had to keep redoing everything because he was too busy ODing on estrogen pills to double check his code. Where the fuck were you people for all this that you keep bringing that troon and wdv up, it literally just happened
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How do I enable tag weighting on kohya? I can't find where it's documented
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>>8227467
Nvm I'm blind --weighted_captions
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>>8227315
If I remember correctly, pn is for pony models, am is for animagine, and the "marged" versions can do both. Pretty sure higher dim is better, but slower. I've been using CN-anytest_v4-marged_pn_dim128 and it's great. Just pick the right one for your model and drop it in your controlnet folder.
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Thanks for sharing your loras and configuration files yesterday, anon. I think I am getting some really accurate results with them.
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>>8227486
However, getting things like tacet marks rights is a challenge, at best. I don't know how to properly capture what essentially is a tattoo, of sorts.
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>>8226969
Holy shit you got controlnet to actually work, I can't figure it out
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>>8227522
Why do you people act like gooknai is some otherworldly new architecture? It's SDXL, bro. Any SDXL CN works with it.
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>>8227524
It's the guy who can't figure out how to enable controlnet in general, saw him in previous threads. I wanna help but I only know comfy.
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>>8227526
nice, shes gorgeous
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This place feels a lot less hostile in the morning, I can actualy post gens. Or was it all just one guy?
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>>8227537
Morning?
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>>8227537
Mostly one guy. From what I gathered, there's a "schizoanon" who wanted to go pro with ai art and start raking in money with NAI, but when nobody subbed to his patreon and he couldn't afford it anymore, he got bitter about it and now tries to drag others down in these threads.
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Realistically, how much of an improvement is naiv4 gonna be?
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>>8227547

>>8227037
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>>8227546
Source?
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>>8227549
Oh you don't believe me? You must be that schizo.
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I hate how artifacty Illustrious is. It looks like deep fried jpg
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>>8227532
Box ?
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>>8227554
https://files.catbox.moe/0xdfo8.png
Here you go
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>>8227552
Its so nice looking desu, I can see what you mean on the detail of the bra, can't you use HiresFix to get rid of that?
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>>8227559
Yeah I could but having to run another pass just to smooth things out is a pain
I gave another VAE a try and it helps too, with colors as well
https://civitai.com/models/152040/xlvaec
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>blender \(medium\)
>puts blender into the image
here we go again
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>>8227565
>plate_armor
>girl holding plate
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>>8227565
it's clip
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https://civitai.com/posts/7034505
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>>8227547
visually not much, but their custom arch is going to have some feature that local has been begging for and it will make people seethe. something like proper multicharacter composing or an automatic hand fixer
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>>8227571
>like proper multicharacter composing or an automatic hand fixer
lol
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>>8227571
Only thing capable of character composing right now is flux and I doubt their model will be anything near that.
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>>8227570
Nice
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>>8227576
you don't understand what a custom architecture allows for, do you? Flux is a generalist model. novelai using a custom arch means they can bake things into it to handle use-case specific tasks like multi-characters by encoding information beyond simple text captions. will they actually do anything like that? who knows.
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Big Illustrious grid with tags like monochrome, greyscale, sepia, gradient, cel shading, etc
https://civitai.com/images/31458839
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>>8227557
Thanks
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>>8227579
If they can pull it off I'll be impressed but nothing in their credentials screams they are capable of something like that. Happy to be proven wrong though.
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>>8227581
those aren't actully mnochrome or greyscale huh
meaning they're likely to have side effects when used as negs
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>>8227589
Hotaru, yay
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>>8227590
my wife
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>>8227591
I came to her so many times, so glad she can be reborn in the AI age
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>>8227595
yes AI has been immensely helpful for getting new pics of characters that don't get art anymore
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>>8227565
>pencil skirt
>holding pencil
eeeyup
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>>8227595
What's so special about this generic-looking character design tho? Looks just like any other flavor of the season slop girl.
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So has Illustrious full release been un-cancelled or something? Or did I fall for shitposting and it was never cancelled in the first place? Nothing on either Civit or HF suggests it's not coming.
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>>8227599
it'll come it'll just be... a while. for context this current model we're using was made back in april
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>>8227602
Wow this made me instantly hard and I'm not even into this kind of stuff
kudos
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>>8227602
>autism-illustrious-XL
nani
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>>8227602
>autism-illustrious-XL
?? what dis?
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>>8227598
>What's so special about this generic-looking character design
she's my wife, simple as
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>>8227602
>autism-illustrious-XL
are you holding out on us, bro?
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>>8227227
i FUCKING hate elves and would breed her disgusting race so fast its unreal
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>>8227598
On one hand I agree, but you could ask the same about so many other girls and not get a good answer either.
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>>8227602
That's how anime hags look like.
I really fucking hope that this place can eventually heal from pony brain damage.
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>>8227591
Your wife deserve more cum
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>>8227612
Don't. That just makes the elf problem worse
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>>8227605
>>8227606
>>8227611
guys, chill, i'm just messing around merging these two into illu >>8225956
it's not actually autism version of illu, kind of a meme, but somewhat better than base
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>>8227616
agreed but I'm done genning for now, but would love to see someone else's take on her
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>>8227618
Oh yeah I've tried using the Some style for Lora too and it does get a little bit more stable
I wish autismanon was here to tell us what he actually did with autismmix. I know he used the Smooth Anime https://civitai.com/models/264290?modelVersionId=298238 which probably helped with keeping the style and anatomy coherent
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>>8227615
So what are the actual differences? I can see it, but can't put it into words. Less shiny skin outside of the highlights?

My wife leaks Obui's style so I don't have issues usually, but I can't tell where the line is between that style or say Aoi Nagisa, and our miqo.
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But what do you really know about these Lords of Local, these supposed legends? Let's take Astra, for one. A right and proper bronie, only, he developed a habit of hashing tags. He hashed so many that his model fried like a nochekaiser lora, then softened into slop,
so they stuck him to Civitai's frontpage. And they made him a Lord of Local. Not for aesthetics, but for downloads. Such is a lord, I suppose.
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>>8227626
schizoposter begone
post gens or fuck off
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>>8227623
anime is minimum shade on face
proportions, amount of shadows overall (the less the better)
you could squint your eyes at >>8227624 thumbnail and it might as well just be a photography
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>>8227623
I'm no artist, so for me it's just overall visual quality.
If I had to think about it... shading, highlights, eyes, lighting, colors, all make feel pony's attempts at anime look aisloppy and fake. Expressions, that's a big one - pony's expressions are mostly really hollow and boring, it was actually one of my main gripes with most of its pics. Look at that catboxed hag, you can just feel the hag energy...
There were limited amount of pony posters that posted anime-looking stuff, like that masamune shirow anon (and I don't even like the style, but it didn't look like typical aislop), and from what I understand they mostly used base pony, or heavily edit their pics in post.
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you can openly be a pony hater and not be called a nai shill, finally
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>>8227631
you would have to post an image for that to be true
anyone shitting on pony without an image is 100% still an NAI shill because they generate images that can't be posted here so they are too afraid to ever post them
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>>8227629
massive skill issue
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>>8227635
kill yourself pajeet
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>>8227637
truth hurts
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>>8227638
Has always been the case. People make some vague claim about pony, get proven wrong once they post a picture and then shift the goalpost
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i fucking hate pony
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>>8227641
very good hentai sir
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>>8227639
Can't believe this general fell victim to this retarded gook marketing ploy. He throws them scraps of his pedo blurry saas model and they treat him like god.
Guys, we had pony for almost a year and mastered every aspect of it. With lora and controlnet you can achieve anything. If you can't do something with pony, it's always a skill issue.
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>>8227635
This
If you can't post your opinion with your gens attached then its probably not worth reading, because you know your opinion is bad and don't want it tied to your in-thread reputation
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>>8227629
I'm no artist either, just want to be. Figure "quality" should be an objective measure, not a west vs east bias. Anons often use those interchangeably. I agree on the expressions, you can train the faces your girl makes but the default set is limited.

>>8227628
The photo bit is actually helpful, thanks. I can imagine a slider going from photorealism down to evangelion screencap, guess thanks to experiments with real porn pony mixes and anime loras.

Still, I'm gonna have to put a pic of onisaki kirara next to miqo and give names to the actual differences.
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>>8227641
What do you call this position
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>>8227644
based
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>>8227647
on lap, (bad anatomy:1.3), spread legs, flaccid, faceless male
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>>8227643
That's not wrong, although 7-8 months is closer to half a year than a full one. And there's no reason to do things the hard way. Even back then, it was easier to use arti refiner than force pony into doing something like ciloranko-style shading with thin outlines.
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>>8227650
dont forget sitting on couch, on floor
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>>8227647
I would go with reverse cowgirl position + lying on person and/or leaning back. If it has its own name you'll only find it in the kamasutra, not in danbooru tags.
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question for anyone who trained a style lora on illustrious
if the model already knows the artist is it better to use the same activation tag, create a new one or not to use one at all?
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>>8227635
do we have actual pony internet defense force here, why simp for this piece of garbage so hard? how is this nai shilling when people are actively dissing pony smegma and post illust pictures? you are literally getting revealed now purpleshart faggots
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>>8227658
>nai shills trying to piggy back off illustrious image posters
how pathetic kek
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uh oh, pedo meltie



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