Zoom Layer EditionPrevious Thread: >>8225619>LOCAL WEBUI SETUPhttps://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/wiki>LOCAL FORGEUIForge: https://github.com/lllyasviel/stable-diffusion-webui-forgeMaintained fork (reForge): https://github.com/Panchovix/stable-diffusion-webui-reForge>LOCAL COMFYUIhttps://github.com/comfyanonymous/ComfyUIhttps://comfyanonymous.github.io/ComfyUI_examples/https://openart.ai/workflows/templates>LOCAL MODELShttps://civitai.com/models/404802https://civitai.com/models/288584https://civitai.com/models/257749>PAIDNovelAI: https://rentry.org/hdg-nai-v3NAI API/prompting in A1111: https://github.com/Metachs/sdwebui-nai-api>RESOURCESFeatures: https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/wiki/FeaturesTraining: https://rentry.org/59xed3 | https://github.com/derrian-distro/LoRA_Easy_Training_Scripts | https://github.com/bmaltais/kohya_ss | https://github.com/Nerogar/OneTrainerTags: https://danbooru.donmai.us/wiki_pages/tag_groups | https://danbooru.donmai.us/related_tagControlNet: https://rentry.org/dummycontrolnet | https://civitai.com/models/136070/controlnetxl-cnxl | https://huggingface.co/2vXpSwA7/iroiro-lora/tree/main/test_controlnet2IOPaint (LamaCleaner): https://huggingface.co/spaces/Sanster/iopaint-lama | https://www.iopaint.com/installUpscaler models: https://openmodeldb.info/models/4x-Nomos8k-atd-jpgBooru: https://aibooru.online4chanX Catbox/NAI prompt userscript: https://rentry.org/hdgcbPony-related: https://rentry.org/ponyxl_loras_n_stuff | https://rentry.org/ponyxl_lora_previews | https://lite.framacalc.org/4ttgzvd0rx-a6jfList of useful A1111 extensions: https://rentry.org/8csaevw5OP Template/Logo: https://rentry.org/hdgtemplate/raw | https://files.catbox.moe/xk99gy.png | https://files.catbox.moe/35bdt5.gif>Related>>>/aco/sdg>>>/g/sdg>>>/g/ldg>>>/d/ddg>>>/e/edg>>>/u/udg>>>/vt/vtai>>>/vg/aids>>>/b/degen>>>/trash/sdg
RRat: Spammer is now even making the threads that are past the bump-limit as to remove the buffer between /hdg/ and the board limit.>>8226508>>8226532>>8226535>>8170827
>>8226579This is honestly the funniest way to shitpost as he isn't breaking any rules at all but still able to terrorize an entire board
>>8226592very nice booba
>>8226598The funny thing is that I have heard they would ban you for less in other boards.
>>8226592please sir, no more, think of the saas users
>>8226598you can also just dump all the acoslop here, as long as it's jap ip or oc, never gets deleted anyway
test
>>82266172
>>8226610The character shouldn't matter either way, only the style.
>>82266203
>>8226625Wait. Is that a pokemon or a human cosplaying as one?
>>8226617that's some good looking fabric
>>8226632its nai
>>8226635figures
>>8226629It's a pokemon
>>8226629If you can't tell, does it still count as furry?
>>8226623ofc, but it doessome time ago anon got warn for western ip characters in very clearly anime style and my comment making fun about it also got deleted because that's questioning moderationyou can shitpost here with any civit slop as long as it's "anime" like mario, ff, doa or zelda
>>8226632do you mean those latex shorts or the bedsheets
>>8226651Weird, the rules are pretty clear on that. Style and origin of images, not content. I used to post anime-fied Raven whenever it was brought up, and never had any trouble.
>>8226655the shorts, very nice shine
ok last one
I haven't given up on it yet
>>8226667good
is the verdict out on illustrious yet?pony killer or worthless abortion?
>>8226672it died in less than 24 hours, no more updates as it is going full closed source
>>8226672slop worse than animagine
>>8226672It's pretty damn neat. Interested to see if some finetuning can work out the issues with it. Styles can always be introduced with LoRAs but the inherent character knowledge and not having a fried TENC is insane.
>>8226672pony sidegradebetter for /e/, styles and characters; worse for sexblows Tofu and Arti out of the water at least
>>8226673That's sad but expected. Would someone take up the challenge and try to do something with it? Is it even worth it to try?
>>8226538very interesting eye in this pic
>>8226678pretty much seems to be the model /e/ dreams of
>>8226682https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Itn9aK-z54I
>>8226682angel's still willing even if the worst case scenario occurs, would need a new compute sponsor tho
Thoughts?
>>8226692why doesn't he just provide compute to wdv who have had their shit together but been hung up on not having compute for months
>>8226694Cause wdv are a bunch of western troons?
>>8226694because they wouldn't have Control and wouldnt be able to go closed source after model 1
>>8226694Isn't wdv just one person againI'm sick of solo bakers' ego trips
>>8226698it's like 3-4 iirc
>>8226710sir, sexy hentai goes to >>8222118
>>8226698the only ones i know that're confirmed working on it is neggles & derrian distro, probably one or two more
>>8226711>troll thread
>>8226714no, it's pony containment zone
>>8226694wdv had all the compute in the world and we saw what that gave us, as long as failggles is at the helm busy dilating instead of baking we're never seeing shit from wdv, give it up
NAI still unmatched
>>8226664That's a nice MILF
>>8226719*in certain areas such as bbc and loli
It's been a while since I checked /hdg/What's new? Is everyone still using autismxl?
>>8226688Well at least there is that.
>>8226729We don't generate images anymore
>>8226729I never stopped using Nai
I'm getting whiplash from the sudden anime
>>8226692sounds like they would give you few days of access to them for open source model, kick you out and train their own closed source one on the stuff you provided them for free
>>8226741but can it do doc croc 2.0
A E S T H E T I C C
Baked a illustrious lora for 2 hours,realize i didn't change the model from ponyWhy can't I escape it
>>8226755RIP
>>8226755I assume that is Yaia (6 years old), correct?
>>8226755I assume this is the pony gen and as such "not anime", correct?
>>8226766That is an asanagi lora with a japanese gacha shit character.
>>8226755come back white man
>>8226672It easily beats launch pony
>>8226675imagine finetuning a outdated model instead of waiting for the latest one
>>8226694>wdv>having their shit together
>>8226774I'll unironically sub to nai if v4 has a 16ch vae. So sick of this blurry mess after getting fluxpilled
>>8226770very nicewish there was a way to have the hands like you are weighting them
>>8226750Sort of. I had to add dreadlocks, goggles, green bikini and then it starts to figure her out, but can't get the mask right even with multiple attempts, tagged or not. And other details are missing or wrong. Still pretty good for 250 images I guess, at least for an overdesigned gacha character.
>>8226779maybe with "breast lift" if you get lucky enough with the model going schizo
Probably nobody is interested in this, but this is where all the Illustrious discussion is, so...Female peeing / wetting / desperation lora for Illustrious: https://civitai.com/models/800565It turned out really well and it only took one attempt. Better than my Pony version, which is why I'm of the opinion that Illustrious will basically obsolete Pony with time. We don't need the v1.0 model, the version we have right now already has more potential than pony and is more than enough. This lora is a good example of how you can emphasize and expand on concepts the model already knows pretty well. And the sketchy, messy, hand drawn style gets cleaned up by the lora as well.
>>8226760>There's now way in hell they gave tits to a 6 year old>check bio>holy shit anyway 10/10>>8226768never played granblue I just like all of the doujins>>8226769here you go
>>8226791Obsolete pony using concept loras? Those are the reason we moved to pony in the first place.
>>8226794neck yourself sepia nigger
>>8226791>the sketchy, messy, hand drawn style gets cleaned up by the lora as wellThen your concept lora failed, because it is not supposed to style or composition beyond its scope.
>>8226794No what I mean is, the illustrious lora is overall better than the pony lora, despite using the exact same dataset. Better style, better variety, better learning of niche subconcepts, better everything basically. Illustrious feels like it has a broader knowledge base and more flexibility than pony, so probably any lora would turn out better on it. I guess only time will tell, but if I was a betting man I'd bet on Illustrious.
>>8226801am I wrong?
>>8226806Might be good news for a finetune. I would prefer we not need loras as much in the future.
>>8222118>>8222118>>8222118ponysloppers containment thread
>>8226804You're not technically wrong, but no concept lora is pure 100% concept with no style changes. The model doesn't know the difference between style and concept, it just learns everything about your images. The only way you could get a completely pure concept lora is to only train on images that perfectly match the base style of the model already, which is never true in practice.
cum tribute lorahttps://litter.catbox.moe/mtdvs3.safetensors
>>8226813loralets btfo
>>8226809Then I believe this is the right thread for me, as my artwork is inspired by traditional Eastern styles found in anime and hentai.
Someone please make an anti-foreshortening embedding, this is getting ridiculous.
I hate having a 4gb vram gpu. Back when it was 1.5 era without reforge improvements i wasnt even able to go beyond 768x768...
>>8226821Have you thought about getting a better gpu?
>>8226821galkobox?
>>8226824I'm not the noodledude, tho
>>8226818the opposite of pony then uh?
>>8226824rent-free
>>8226833kys yourself noodlecunt
>>8226792Sorry anon, but your waifu was so cute I had to try and copy her and put her into the centrifuge for extensive g-force training.Also Illustrious learns fast but some artists are deep fried and you have to turn down strength a little.
>>8226837Wrong number.
short king bros...
>>8226844the illustrious experience
>>8226783but can it do pirate croc...
>>8226845it's pony
>>8226826Post an image and i'll think about it>>8226822yeah working on it atm. i am definitely buying a new pc
>>8226846heh, no wayAlso I found out tricorne is completely overfit on genshin's Clorinde. There aren't enough pirates on danbooru.
>>8226853so crocclose... yet so crocfar..
>>8226685Except it can't do backgrounds. And by now most people got brainwashed by the highlighter, so those are a necessity.
>heh, if i mention myself in third-person people might play along!
made by first illustrious lora for an artist I like. The artists name is KCC_9646. No activation tags.https://files.catbox.moe/677kao.safetensors
>>8226869ohhh I thought you meant kcccwell those starry eyes are kind of cool
>>8226869based, moe miqo
Why did nai train in fp32? H100s have a measly 50 tflops there, that's half the power of a 4090. Compare that to 1.5k tflops in fp16.
>>8226879because they can
>>8226879unlike localkeks and their shitty underbaked 1000 step loras, nai doesn't make quality tradeoffs. your post reveals your ancestry, it's clear you care more about rushing shit out the door than delivering a top-quality release.
>>8226879didn't know better
>>8226885You could use mixed precision or switch during finetuning
>8226833>8226842kys
>>8226729no, mods ban autismmix when it gets posted
Think people actually go back more than five posts to check who you replied to?
>>8226897Do you even have a reason to feel insecure?
>>8226885Hope they trained v4 on h200s at fp64 then
>>8226908Why is it so artifacted
>>8226917Normally knights go on quests to obtain lots of artifacts, it's a common fantasy trope
>>8226919where is her anus
>>8226923The Demon King must've stolen it
>>8226931holy hips batman
>>8226931hentai!
>>8226879they trained in TF32 mixed precision, not full FP32
Loras turn out real good and accurate on Illustrious. Has anyone tried or succeeded merging loras into the Illustrious checkpoint? All my attempts have ended with the result looking way worse.
Thigh cam
>>8226922basically this but small instead of large breasts
>>8226966thanks
So that's all it takes, huh?https://files.catbox.moe/wtfob3.png
Do my Furinas look like slop, anon?
>>8226839no need to apologize anon, I've done way more fucked up things to her
1girl... standing...https://files.catbox.moe/7pekix.png
>>8226973on the edge?
>>8226973Peak AI but please consider making a nude version if you have the time.
>>8226970>Actually draws her specific heterochromia.Nope. Not at all.
I guess I'll just go back to these two trains
>>8226592box?
>>8226979Thanks, anon! Anything you think I should focus on to improve?
>>8226941hentai!
>>8226985Possibly also train her vision/accessories to get better results.
>>8226992hot
>>8226966based negs btw
>>82269731girl standing is its own art form.Illustrious sorely needs a detailer.
>>8226973>>8226997IllustriGODS I kneel
illustrious just works
>illustrious fucking up colorsAny idea why?
>>8226931>>8226987unironically post more please
>>8227002CFG scale probably, for me it functions almost like a contrast slider
>>8227001catbox
>>8227001Why is it so blurry?
>>8227008Because it's focused on the foreground, anonNon-AI pic for comparison
>>8227005https://files.catbox.moe/p8i6aa.png
>>8227004Damn, I think you are right. But lowering it makes the picture look worse too...
>>8227003
>>8226992peak
>>8227024so this is the power of 5 loras...
>>8227024>pony loras with gooknaiwhat are you doing anon
HERES YOUR NAI OPEN SOURCEENJOY!https://github.com/NovelAI/novelai-aspect-ratio-bucketing/
>>8227030they're really confident in this new arch huh
>>8227030>>8227031v4 is gonna suck your dick and call you a good boy while you gen
>>8227031it doesnt have to beat anything except local, and they already are by a wide margin. v3 was a competence moat, v4 is an intelligence moat. without SAI to spoonfeed shitty base models to finetune, local will have absolutely ZERO chance of catching up
>>8227040box?
>>8227042
>>8227043
why the fuck does illustrious do this duplicated/shifted shit so often? i'm already having to reduce my upscaling and lower denoise way more than i ever had to on 1.5 or even pony. is there any snakeoil that can help remedy the duplicated navels issue?
>>8227042Whoopshttps://files.catbox.moe/qkd3gy.png
>>8227046just use anytest on a light weight when upscaling
>>8227048ty, very nice style anon.
can someone provide the easiest possible guide to try fine tuning flux? I have 24gb vram and like 2k images taggedIs it better to just do a lora?
>>8227056>flux>24gb vrambare minimum for a full finetune is 75gb do a lora
>>8227058mashu my faithful wife.....
Do you think euler or DPM is coming out better?
>>8227051Anytest has an upscaler? I thought it was only for controlnet.
>>8227063you use anytest as a controlnet when upscalingupscale your original gen with esrganuse that as the anytest input
>>8227062I feel like the sampler is the least of your problem
>>8227062both look really bad, sampler doesnt make difference here
>>8227066Ngl if I didn't look too closely at this, I'd assume it was actually M-da
>>8227068It is, I hacked his pc.
>>8226978
>>8227070Who the fuck are you
>>8227062Ayakon more like BEGONE
>>8226538
>>8227068you are delusional
>>8227067it's pony
>>8227062looks nice to me, are these all seething naiposters?
So trolls are trying their best to push pony out of this place huh? You literally can't post a pony pic without being ridiculed now. What the fuck is wrong with some of you?
no one on either side likes Ayakon garbage
>ponywhy is it so curry???
>>8227082yeah it's shills angry that ayakon does art unachievable by n*i
>>8227088So post something, you disingenuos nogen twat.
>>8227092what schizo shit are you even talking about
>>8227028rookie numbers
>>8227093aaaahhhh! sexy hentaiiii!!!!
>>8227094fuck astroturfer
>>8227061
>>8227094a poster often adds a username to filenames, this has made some people very angry
>>8227102issue is that he posts fucking garbage
illustrious really is fucking shit at upscaling nude bodies wow
>>8227105it's ponycan't expect much
raw slime girl /ss/cant seem to do seethrough x-rayhttps://files.catbox.moe/yttdee.png
>>8227108that's true but his posts are especially awful
>>8227105it's mostly fine just not the flat anime some people demand here
>>8227114>flat animemy favorite strawman by acosloppers, add also that from 90s or something
disney pony posters should be bullied out of here now that we have a real model
>>8227057kohya made it work on 10, 12gbthough it would be very very slow
>>8227114it's bleak, boring, always shitty expressions and full of tiling upscale artifacts like vaginas growing from armpits"it's not le 2d" is a shitslopper cope, plenty of good posts that aren't flat but look good
>>8227120wasnt it loras he made work on 10 & 12
>>8227124he did, but he also recently made finetuning work by switching blocks between gpu/cpu or something idk how it works
>>8227100mashbox?
Am I shadowbanned?
>>8227109I cannot make prompts now, but did you add see-through body?
>>8227060catbooooox?
what are all these and should I care about any
>>8227135local snakeoil nonsense to cope with their 1epoch finetunes. just ignore it
>>8227133yes I pushed the weight pretty high too but I havent really done extensive testing, maybe it would work with pov cowgirl
>>8227131https://files.catbox.moe/212y9y.png
>>8227137There are about 300ish images on danbooru you can use for training though, should that fail.
>>8227074Hackerman.>>8227100she knows to always come back.
>>8227066box please
guys whats better $1699 worth of Anals? or 5090?
>>8227135Use Perturbed for slightly better detail consistency.
>>8227149>5090 at launch>5090 anytime within the first 4 monthsLOL
>>8227148https://files.catbox.moe/chjboa.png
idc about new releases but if a 5090 launches I hope for cheaper 3090s
>>82271495090think of all those pony gens you can whip up
>>8227029I'm on a mission
>>8227149try $2k+ roru
mao?
>>8227073Thank you Bro.
>>82271495090 so you can bake 25+ loras until you realize the base model is simply shit then the intrusive thoughts start creeping in about how you should totally try training your own better finetune as you reach for your empty wallet, sadly realizing just one is simply not enough
omelette du fromage
>>8227149>$1699you mean $2599
Anons I have a scene idea but I have no idea how to do it and I'm not seeing any loras for it. Basically, I want to have a girl crawl through a vent or some kind of tight space with a back view angle. Any tag ideas on how to do this? The tight space is the hard part.
>>8227179try tags like from behind, stuck, through wall, ass focus
>>8227179model a tunnel in blender, just a few cubes stretched, flip normals, cut some of the cube faces off if you wantput a random character model in. pose the character, light it, render out in eevee or something quick.sketch over it in your tool of choice to add character specific shapes for clothing, expression, whatever elseimg2img once to apply style, inpaint to refine.
>>8227179order up
>>8227184you are out of your mind if you think that most people are even going to go past step1easiest way to do it is to find a pictures close enough to his idea, do some change to match what he want then send it to CN
My cute onsen wife
OUR wife
I was thinking about how interesting it would be to recreate all the Tsukihime H-scenes in the remake style, and maybe have someone port them in or at least have them put next to the text. There are decent enough loras for most of the characters now, but getting the poses just right is tricky.
>>8227203just i2i the original pictures with a style loras on top of it
>>8227203i2i with denoise set low enough (not too low) that it changes the style, not the composition, use anytest as well to help mitigate changes that might be cause be the denoise/LORA
>>8227204That's what I've been doing, but there are issues with that. First, they'll stretch a bit, which will look a bit wonky. One solution I had was to expand out the image. Here's an example of one of the CGs expanded out, before I did it.
>>8227215The issue is, for more complicated poses like that, like with one arm behind her back, it's more likely that you'll get either both or neither. Not to mention some of the character loras are a little shit and have some artifacts. Wouldn't look as good as the real game, obviously.
>>8227222this is literally what anytest was made for how are you struggling
>>8227222thats so fried what are you even doing
>>8227227>score_9, score_8_up, score_7_up, score_6_up, score_5_up>Illustrious-XL-v0.1calm down slopmancer
>>8227237it was actually an old gen I img2img with illustrious
>>8227226>>8227225Be my guest if you want to do it instead. But even the preview images for the remake Ciel pony loras are pretty fried. And I don't know what anytest is.This is a different lora which had a bit better results, but still not amazing. Don't know if doing all the CGs would even be worth doing with results like these.
>>8227230kinogen
>>8227179
>>8227076box?
>>8227200https://files.catbox.moe/o00y64.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/4bai7r.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/j4w6j2.png
what's thenbest way to upscale?
>>8227134https://files.catbox.moe/bxctik.png
> the zankuro lora works in fluxI will have ripped my dick off of my body by the end of the day
>>8227255based wife enjoyer
>>8227256Second this
>>8227257Why censor
>>8227266Blame Illustrious, not me
>>8227258
>>8227267>mosaic_censoringhuh?
>>8227267Never mind, blame me I'm retarded
>>8227279>prompt 6boys>get 7NAI is such a joke
>>8227282Find the reverse trap
Is there an ADetailer model that looks for both hair and faces rather then just the face?
Less than one week remains until the NAI two-year image-gen anniversary, where they will surely begin the teasing for V4. I can't wait for the ultimate sour grapes
>>8227285Could try this, do it in another pass, first hair then face. hhttps://github.com/prashants975/Beard-Hair-Image-Segmentation/tree/main/models
yeah but can you gen *obscure character or OC from long forgotten media*? I thought so.
wow its the same style and the same positions and the same shtick yet againhere is your based nice wow great
>>8227298thanks bro
now time to go restart that router
wouldn't expect anything less from troon general
reset complete
Okay, how do you install anytest?https://huggingface.co/2vXpSwA7/iroiro-lora/tree/main/test_controlnet2There are like 32 different files here. I have no idea which one to use. I'm using A1111 if that's relevant.
Illustrious sure likes to alternate between poo and great with every other gen
there is some guy on twitter called setsu with 300k+ followers using ai and pretending they don't, they do weird engagement bait undress games on alt accounts. looked at their kimono and its the most low quality NAI gen's I've ever seen wtf. seems to have an insane amount of patreon supporters toohttps://kemono.su/patreon/user/90682659how the fuck do they even get this many with such low quality content?
>>8227318>setsu with 300k+ followers using ai and pretending they don't>setsuAI??
shuten-wife anon, you're inspiration to us allhttps://files.catbox.moe/klur58.png>>8227317just use this at like 0.7https://civitai.com/models/798443/some-style-for-illustrious-xlreally stabilizes all the samplers, making it less gacha
all the top earners use nai. i dont get why freetards dont just buy a sub. they could literally fund their own finetune if they all coordinated a massive slopbucket and pooled their funds together. guess they just aren't that smart.
I haven't done this in a few years, is SD1.5 still fine or is there better shit now?
>>8227331https://civitai.com/models/795765/illustrious-xl?modelVersionId=889818
>>8227331Theres other stuff but you don't need them as 1.5 background are SOVL
>>8227334I CAME
>>8227334why can no one recreate how backgrounds were done on 1.5
>>8227338cuz i don't want them
>>8227333Why most of the preview images below look so dull?
>>8227294Find me a checkpoint that can generate Eliza Leagan. No, I am not questioning you. I am fucking begging you. I cannot find any.
>>8227341you can't post loli porn there
>>8227342just how ancient are you?
>>8227344I was browsing 4chan when it was called Raspberry Heaven. I had to hire porters to get my manga. My first eroge was in Win3.1. I am an originalfag.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9hTMCNgwaU&ab_channel=reyncoat
>>8227287>spent the last two years with without nai>somehow you expect me to do so nowyou really expect people that didn't cave when the last versions come out to cave now
>>8227346based
>>8227347you seem to misunderstand. if everyone switched to NAI things would simply be boring. there's no fun in that. the true drama emerges when the SEAtards/freetards start sour-grapes seething, defiance slowly withering away as all hope flees from their posts, their ancestry betraying them as they collapse to their knees begging for keys, a pathetic act so etched into their very DNA.that is the true art that transcends all other
>>8227352>SEAtards/freetards start sour-grapes seethingyou keep calling them this but they're the ones who can afford a gpu instead of just a 25 dollar monthly sub. i'm beginning to think this is just projection from a poorfag
any developments for AMD cards recently?
>>8227353It is kinda weird to hear that, I have rig that cost me fucking 4k but I "be freetard" kek. I just have a habit of not letting my penis think for me financially, weird I know.
>>8227357that guy is a shitposter but "freetard" doesn't mean what most people here think it means
>>8227357>no gen
>>8227357poor people are poor for a reason. they make impulsive decisions that are bad financially, and then make excuses for why they had to make those decisions. the "your poor for not paying for nai" is their cope for burning 25 dollars a month in the air because their penis likes ai images and thinks for them
>>8227360not saying that everyone should pay for nai but if 25 dollars a month is of any consideration to you, you are already piss-poor african-tier, yes
>>8227362>anon pretends like it's not known that a minimum wagie makes enough money for a 25 dollar a month subscriptionnice zinger anon but you're still a retarded poorfag. 25 dollars a month would be a consideration to any wealthy person (aside from retarded nepo baby millionaires). the fact that you think a 25 dollar a month purchase isn't worth caring about "because you can afford it" is exactly the same type of mindset poor people have. are you poor anon?
>>822736525 dollars a month is 300 dollars a year. If 300 dollars a year is a serious financial burden to you, then you are poor. I don't mean that as an insult. It's just the truth.
>>8227362Why the fuck would I though? Should I just go subscribe to every fucking thing in the world, just cause I can afford it? Bro you gotta think a bit more about self, this aint healthy.
>>8227357"Freetard" means a foss fanatic, not a poorfag. Calling everyone who doesn't sub a "freetard" isn't a correct use of that word btw, it only applies to people who melt down due to mere existence of nai and closed models in general, like we've seen with gooknai where freetards immediately started seeing shills in their walls while asking for gibs.
>>8227366>ignoring the pointcongrats you learned how to do math. want to say anything actually relevant, because you just sound like a broken record at this point
>>8227369I'm a different guy. Plenty of people think you're retarded, not just the nai-shill. I don't pay for nai because I like open source shit, not because $25 is a burden
>>8227371if you're gonna pretend to be different people you should at least change how you type. why are you so shit at shitposting?
>>8227371>>8227375please do post the screenshot of these posts after unchecking the you box. this is the next step in your epic shitpost right?
>>822736525 dollars a month for a thing you enjoy and actively use is not much, yes. If it is, you are actually destitute. >because you can afford itBecause you enjoy it. If you don't, I don't see any reason to pay indeed.>>8227367No? Pay if you want to use it. Or you think I'm the falseflagger shill? I don't care if you use nai or not, especially now when there's a local alternative that doesn't look like fucking vomit.
>>8227353that's the beauty of it all. you can buy 4x5090s and you still won't get near the quality NAI offers. that's the quintessence of the sour grapes war, and PRECISELY why they get so sour.
>>8227380that's the beauty of it all. you can buy all the cluster and you still won't get near the quality FLUX offers. that's the quintessence of the NAI Shills war, and PRECISELY why they get so pissy.
>>8227380so if them being poor has nothing to do with it why do you call them poorfags? i think you're unironically poor and compensate for it by trying to make fun of people who can afford a gpu because you can't. after all, anyone that can afford a decent gpu and afford a 25 dollar sub if they chose to. maybe one day you'll get a raise so you can upgrade your gt 430 to a used 1080, rajeesh. keep hoping!
>muh text on signsis this really the best local has to offer? pointing to a model they don't even use as some sort of gotcha? they cant even point to pony or illustrious because even they know they suck. pathetic state
>>8227394>he can't think of any way to denigrate flux other than bringing attention to the fact it does something nai can'ttruly mindbroken shitposter
>>8227393why are you getting so worked up over a blatant shitposter. you okay anon? lol
>despite shilling flux every thread, he still can't manage to find an /h/ finetune for iteven localkeks can't help but beg for handouts
how can I get free anals?
>>8227398>non response
>>8227400wait for kurumuz to start dropping keys like he does every release, and hope you're faster than the rest of mumbai
Poor NAI shills can't even imagine a world where kurumunz will deliver a model that will actually follow prompt and do details correctly. It's ok bros, I love melt too
>>8227402i'm seriousguy is literally using thread as a toilet and you keep replying to him like you're having an actual discussion
>>8227398i was just thinking about what motivates someone to shitpost like this. it's not even funny and it's been going on for so long i'm starting to think they're not being ironic. look at how many posts he's spamming now that someone actually questioned him about it
the only one melting here is you, freejesh. go back to your greyscale underbaked scraps
>>8227408he's mentally illeither actually hates freetards to the point that he comes here every day to remind everyone about itor a falseflagger nai hater who wants people to hate nai and justify making a split generaleither way, severe mental illness
why is no local baker tuning flux??? didnt neggles work on flux? where's waifu diffusion flux?
>>8226982catbox?
>>8227413As passionate as I am for seeing my favored girls in better checkpoints, I cannot afford it. 2500 for a GPU is waaaay to expensive.
it's too, freejesh
>>8227431Why are you having a meltie, bro?Is it because of that gooknai situation?
>>8227413Troongles didn't work on flux directly, bfl fired him and he lost access to their cluster so has no compute. Not that anyone should've expected anything regardless considering the "results" he gave when he had access to their cluster were even worse than jordachs ever ascending 1b epochs and he had to keep redoing everything because he was too busy ODing on estrogen pills to double check his code. Where the fuck were you people for all this that you keep bringing that troon and wdv up, it literally just happened
How do I enable tag weighting on kohya? I can't find where it's documented
>>8227467Nvm I'm blind --weighted_captions
>>8227315If I remember correctly, pn is for pony models, am is for animagine, and the "marged" versions can do both. Pretty sure higher dim is better, but slower. I've been using CN-anytest_v4-marged_pn_dim128 and it's great. Just pick the right one for your model and drop it in your controlnet folder.
Thanks for sharing your loras and configuration files yesterday, anon. I think I am getting some really accurate results with them.
>>8227486However, getting things like tacet marks rights is a challenge, at best. I don't know how to properly capture what essentially is a tattoo, of sorts.
>>8226969Holy shit you got controlnet to actually work, I can't figure it out
>>8227522Why do you people act like gooknai is some otherworldly new architecture? It's SDXL, bro. Any SDXL CN works with it.
>>8227524It's the guy who can't figure out how to enable controlnet in general, saw him in previous threads. I wanna help but I only know comfy.
>>8227526nice, shes gorgeous
This place feels a lot less hostile in the morning, I can actualy post gens. Or was it all just one guy?
>>8227537Morning?
>>8227537Mostly one guy. From what I gathered, there's a "schizoanon" who wanted to go pro with ai art and start raking in money with NAI, but when nobody subbed to his patreon and he couldn't afford it anymore, he got bitter about it and now tries to drag others down in these threads.
Realistically, how much of an improvement is naiv4 gonna be?
>>8227547>>8227037
>>8227546Source?
>>8227549Oh you don't believe me? You must be that schizo.
I hate how artifacty Illustrious is. It looks like deep fried jpg
>>8227532Box ?
>>8227554https://files.catbox.moe/0xdfo8.pngHere you go
>>8227552Its so nice looking desu, I can see what you mean on the detail of the bra, can't you use HiresFix to get rid of that?
>>8227559Yeah I could but having to run another pass just to smooth things out is a painI gave another VAE a try and it helps too, with colors as wellhttps://civitai.com/models/152040/xlvaec
>blender \(medium\)>puts blender into the imagehere we go again
>>8227565>plate_armor>girl holding plate
>>8227565it's clip
https://civitai.com/posts/7034505
>>8227547visually not much, but their custom arch is going to have some feature that local has been begging for and it will make people seethe. something like proper multicharacter composing or an automatic hand fixer
>>8227571>like proper multicharacter composing or an automatic hand fixerlol
>>8227571Only thing capable of character composing right now is flux and I doubt their model will be anything near that.
>>8227570Nice
>>8227576you don't understand what a custom architecture allows for, do you? Flux is a generalist model. novelai using a custom arch means they can bake things into it to handle use-case specific tasks like multi-characters by encoding information beyond simple text captions. will they actually do anything like that? who knows.
Big Illustrious grid with tags like monochrome, greyscale, sepia, gradient, cel shading, etchttps://civitai.com/images/31458839
>>8227557Thanks
>>8227579If they can pull it off I'll be impressed but nothing in their credentials screams they are capable of something like that. Happy to be proven wrong though.
>>8227581those aren't actully mnochrome or greyscale huhmeaning they're likely to have side effects when used as negs
>>8227589Hotaru, yay
>>8227590my wife
>>8227591I came to her so many times, so glad she can be reborn in the AI age
>>8227595yes AI has been immensely helpful for getting new pics of characters that don't get art anymore
>>8227565>pencil skirt>holding pencileeeyup
>>8227595What's so special about this generic-looking character design tho? Looks just like any other flavor of the season slop girl.
So has Illustrious full release been un-cancelled or something? Or did I fall for shitposting and it was never cancelled in the first place? Nothing on either Civit or HF suggests it's not coming.
>>8227599it'll come it'll just be... a while. for context this current model we're using was made back in april
https://files.catbox.moe/q279kn.png
>>8227602Wow this made me instantly hard and I'm not even into this kind of stuffkudos
>>8227602>autism-illustrious-XLnani
>>8227602>autism-illustrious-XL?? what dis?
>>8227598>What's so special about this generic-looking character designshe's my wife, simple as
>>8227602>autism-illustrious-XLare you holding out on us, bro?
>>8227227i FUCKING hate elves and would breed her disgusting race so fast its unreal
>>8227598On one hand I agree, but you could ask the same about so many other girls and not get a good answer either.
>>8227602That's how anime hags look like. I really fucking hope that this place can eventually heal from pony brain damage.
>>8227591Your wife deserve more cum
>>8227612Don't. That just makes the elf problem worse
>>8227605>>8227606>>8227611guys, chill, i'm just messing around merging these two into illu >>8225956it's not actually autism version of illu, kind of a meme, but somewhat better than base
>>8227616agreed but I'm done genning for now, but would love to see someone else's take on her
>>8227618Oh yeah I've tried using the Some style for Lora too and it does get a little bit more stableI wish autismanon was here to tell us what he actually did with autismmix. I know he used the Smooth Anime https://civitai.com/models/264290?modelVersionId=298238 which probably helped with keeping the style and anatomy coherent
>>8227615So what are the actual differences? I can see it, but can't put it into words. Less shiny skin outside of the highlights?My wife leaks Obui's style so I don't have issues usually, but I can't tell where the line is between that style or say Aoi Nagisa, and our miqo.
But what do you really know about these Lords of Local, these supposed legends? Let's take Astra, for one. A right and proper bronie, only, he developed a habit of hashing tags. He hashed so many that his model fried like a nochekaiser lora, then softened into slop,so they stuck him to Civitai's frontpage. And they made him a Lord of Local. Not for aesthetics, but for downloads. Such is a lord, I suppose.
>>8227626schizoposter begonepost gens or fuck off
>>8227623anime is minimum shade on faceproportions, amount of shadows overall (the less the better)you could squint your eyes at >>8227624 thumbnail and it might as well just be a photography
>>8227623I'm no artist, so for me it's just overall visual quality. If I had to think about it... shading, highlights, eyes, lighting, colors, all make feel pony's attempts at anime look aisloppy and fake. Expressions, that's a big one - pony's expressions are mostly really hollow and boring, it was actually one of my main gripes with most of its pics. Look at that catboxed hag, you can just feel the hag energy... There were limited amount of pony posters that posted anime-looking stuff, like that masamune shirow anon (and I don't even like the style, but it didn't look like typical aislop), and from what I understand they mostly used base pony, or heavily edit their pics in post.
you can openly be a pony hater and not be called a nai shill, finally
>>8227631you would have to post an image for that to be trueanyone shitting on pony without an image is 100% still an NAI shill because they generate images that can't be posted here so they are too afraid to ever post them
>>8227629massive skill issue
>>8227635kill yourself pajeet
>>8227637truth hurts
>>8227638Has always been the case. People make some vague claim about pony, get proven wrong once they post a picture and then shift the goalpost
i fucking hate pony
>>8227641very good hentai sir
>>8227639Can't believe this general fell victim to this retarded gook marketing ploy. He throws them scraps of his pedo blurry saas model and they treat him like god. Guys, we had pony for almost a year and mastered every aspect of it. With lora and controlnet you can achieve anything. If you can't do something with pony, it's always a skill issue.
>>8227635ThisIf you can't post your opinion with your gens attached then its probably not worth reading, because you know your opinion is bad and don't want it tied to your in-thread reputation
>>8227629I'm no artist either, just want to be. Figure "quality" should be an objective measure, not a west vs east bias. Anons often use those interchangeably. I agree on the expressions, you can train the faces your girl makes but the default set is limited.>>8227628The photo bit is actually helpful, thanks. I can imagine a slider going from photorealism down to evangelion screencap, guess thanks to experiments with real porn pony mixes and anime loras.Still, I'm gonna have to put a pic of onisaki kirara next to miqo and give names to the actual differences.
>>8227641What do you call this position
>>8227644based
>>8227647on lap, (bad anatomy:1.3), spread legs, flaccid, faceless male
>>8227643That's not wrong, although 7-8 months is closer to half a year than a full one. And there's no reason to do things the hard way. Even back then, it was easier to use arti refiner than force pony into doing something like ciloranko-style shading with thin outlines.
>>8227650dont forget sitting on couch, on floor
>>8227647I would go with reverse cowgirl position + lying on person and/or leaning back. If it has its own name you'll only find it in the kamasutra, not in danbooru tags.
question for anyone who trained a style lora on illustriousif the model already knows the artist is it better to use the same activation tag, create a new one or not to use one at all?
>>8227635do we have actual pony internet defense force here, why simp for this piece of garbage so hard? how is this nai shilling when people are actively dissing pony smegma and post illust pictures? you are literally getting revealed now purpleshart faggots
>>8227658>nai shills trying to piggy back off illustrious image postershow pathetic kek
uh oh, pedo meltie
illustrious makes for a fine addition to the pony refiner collection
>nogensstand on business with your gens, quit dumping shit under anon
>>8227658they're shitposters, don't engage
>>8227657>style lora>activation tagI'd say stop that because it's dumb. Loading the lora already is your activation trigger. But it probably won't cause any harm.
>>8227659 lying ponykike, everyone can see through your sepia shroud of deceit
>>8227660
>>8227662>post gens>hdgnyo
falseflag general
>>8227565>doggystyle>dog watches couple having sexyeah
>>8227612catbox plsi have elf gen skill issue
kot
Strange, I can't log into catbox
>>8227671catbox? wanna know how to make such amazing illustrious gens
what model is best for generating パンイチ (pannichi), or underwear only pics?
They call me nogen
>>8227657I would say yes >>8225555The other guy said no >>8225696Try them both and see which feels better for mixes and such. Or better, try baking both options on your dataset and compare.>>8227664Your UI eats the <lora> bit, so the model will never see it. The question is whether a style works better when you're training it on top of the model's partial knowledge of an artist (eg you tag all the images in training data as the artist). Or separately, by either having no tag or coming up with a different one. But which of these two options is not that important.
>>8227675yep same here
>>8227675I just logged in alright
>>8227677Try asking on /e/ too since it's more their specialty. Pony's porn knowledge is overkill here, even illu's probably, which opens up a lot more options.
>>8227680Does it show any error or just refreshes the page?>>8227682Very strange. I don't even get any error, the page just refreshes. I even made a separate account and still the same
>>8227676not gonna bother upscaling.meta in is png (stealth png)messing around with alternate init noise extension
>>8227684>Does it show any error or just refreshes the page?reloads the page and that's it
>>8227591catbox??
>Illu still can't do flailingdanbooru was a mistake
>>8227586im pretty sure its just because the they prompted colors
>>8227690Oh yeah. Not much of a test then. The model knows miku without helped tags, hell even base sdxl does.
>>8227679thank you anon, I do remember seeing that comparison but forgot what it said. I'll bake both and see how they compareI added some artists to the mega (illustrious)https://mega.nz/folder/27AXgLSS#-ojw0WbGra04b2Aps31HBgIllustrious does seem to learn the little details that artists have slightly better than pony, p[probably because it doesn't have a strong base style
>>8227688it's Comfy, and a mess because I was testing thingshttps://files.catbox.moe/zgk3th.pngI copied the style mix from civit
>>8227689
>>8227694ty
>>8227695holy based
>>8227570that is amazingan entire doujin kek>>8227581very informative, thanks for sharing
>>8227695not quite what i had in mind...https://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=9296518&tags=flailing
>>8227700flail vs flailingEnglish moment kek
>>8227700Was mostly a jest, I was curious how well it knew flails as pony was always so shit at weapons. Pleasantly surprised. I assume with shit like that you need to autistically add every tag that might make a character look like they are flailing. In unrelated news, Illustrious seems a lot better at the "dancing" tag than Pony was.
that an interesting composition...
>>8227703I recommend Flux if you're gonna do any kind of non /e/h/ anatomy, especially in motion.
>>8227705So hot! I love scenes like this where they show off a load in their mouth
>>8227705reminds me of the >I really shouldn't stick my penis in there, HOWEVERmeme
GookNai is really good.
>>8227708r34sirs...
>>8227708
>>8227334HOT
don't want to sound like a dickhead, but why do avatarfags posting here just hate self-improvement? or do they seriously think their gens are good?
>>8227720What self-improvements have you made this week?
>>8227721i stopped posting images on /hdg/
how do we tackle the illustrious hand problem, fellow effortgenners?
>>8227722Giving up is not an improvement.
>>8227724Fixhands_anime_bdsqlsz_V1>>8227722some people itt should do the same
>>8227722Just this week? Slow learner
>>8227720Come on, don't batch us all together.
>>8227727>Fixhands_anime_bdsqlsz_V1This one? https://huggingface.co/bdsqlsz/stable-diffusion-xl-anime-V5 Looks promising, have you used it yourself? does it work?
>>8227727>it's realkek I thought you were just making fun of snake oil embeddings
>>8227731love the energy
>>8227737Fox girls are cute
>>8227720>nogendiscarded
>>8227717Ooooo AsunaFuck yeah anon
>>8227738They are! She's especially cute for how happy she is over cock and cum
>>8227738Gotta be a mightmare, synchronizing six cumshots to go off at the same time.
>>8227748bros helped each other out
>>8227747My list keeps growing for characters I need to gen with illustrious
>>8227750you could always gen them with pony
>>8227747whoa mama
>>8227742>>8227734i think it does?>>8227741it's me
>>8227754>i think it does?Guess I'll download it and do some comparisons later
>>8227752This, I don't get it.I thought model knowledge was worthless when you could always bake a lora for anything you'd ever want.
>>8227756You can use loras with illustrious as well
>>8227757Yes, but shills are ecstatic about model knowing some shitty pedo 2005 anime characters for some reason
>>8227757stop giving attention to le funny falseflaggot
>>8227756slopgenning works better with thousands of wildcards instead of hundredsloras are too much effort, unless it's like the Arknights one with 250+ characters
>>8227758too dumb to use a lora I guess
>>8227754Who are the avatarfags in these threads?
>>8227763good morning sir
>>8227764Morning 2u2
>NAI occasionally shows pantyshots with zettai ryouiki tagwhat a shit model
tagging DC amazon on pony is weird, half the time it'll gen her perfectly fine and the other half will make a weird amazon/sorceress hybrid
>>8227734I might be retarded, but Comfy doesn't recognize that Lora for me. It's also really small, so do I have to load it differently?
>>8227754So hot, do you upload anywhere else as well?
>>8227773yup, was retarded. Apparently the Lora Node I'm using doesn't recognize it
>>8227773Maybe it's not actually a lora, but the creator said on twitter that you just load it like a lora so I dunno
>>8227768don't worry, v4 will fix everything
>upload to rule34 because it's good for spread>in images with a visible generic male i usually inpaint them with the faceless_male tag>if the male is smaller than a 6'5" jacked man the image ALWAYS gets removed for "shota"i think the mods have it out for me
>>8227784What post did you make that got removed?
>>8227786https://files.catbox.moe/gdyk83.pngthis is the latest one that didone other post was a tsunade/boruto one but then that character has 4300 image entries on that site
I like this hentai style.
>>8227789Love the eyes
>>8227787Its probably the head, I would say just reupload it again at a different time and it might squeeze through, its how mine ended up.
Are ugly bastards on the same level of depravity as BBC? I realized that seeing anime girls being fucked by hairy fat men is just much more fappable to me compared to the default male.
>>8227795its a gateway to bbc, i would nip that shit in the bud now
>>8227770You can put sorceress (dragon's crown) in negs. Worked for me with Lulu, in league of legends vs final fantasy. Some characters even work better without their franchise tag, but amazon is too generic of a name.
>>8227795It's 2024, Ugly Bastard and BBC is not depraved anymore. Zoosadism, Leuco and Tetraphallus are the new depraved shit.
>>8227795Same level as BBC? nah its a few steps below id say. But its roughly the same concept (degradation through a mismatched partner), there are MUCH worse fetishes though despite how depraved /pol/ tells you BBC is the most depraved its somewhat vanilla on normie sites and not considered "weird".