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>>17276712
She was a JUDEAN. Israelis and Palestinians are both descendants of these people. The Gazans are a bit more sketch, but the West Bank absolutely.
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>>17276721
Yids are alot more sketchy than Gazans.
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>>17276747
Kikes remember where they came from
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>>17276749
Then why do they LARP as Levantines?
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>>17276770
because that's a significant portion of their genetic makeup and because for two thousand years they held onto that identity
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>>17276712
A Judaean Israelite.
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She was an Aramaic-speaking eastern Roman citizen from Roman Palestine.

Israel didn't fucking exist.
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>>17276792
>A Judaean Israelite.
Both ceased to exist centuries before Mary.
Fell to the Assyrians and Babylonians by 722 BC and 586 BC.

>>17276721
>The Gazans are a bit more sketch, but the West Bank
Most Gazans are partly or fully descended from refugees from the rest of Palestine.
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>>17276771
Well, that sounds like a Chilean Mestizo LARPing as his Welsh ancestors just cus he's still got the last name "Jones", even though culturally and linguistically he's indistinguishable to every single half-Mapuche half-Spanish Mestizo living around him.
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>>17276893
>linguistically
Modern Jews speak Hebrew unlike the Palestinians who are supposed to be genetically closer to ancient Jews
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>>17276900
Would you consider me a Roman if I started speaking Latin?
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>>17276712
considering its netflix I am shocked they didn't make everyone in it negros

obviously every jew and roman in it should be very white if they want historical accuracy.
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>>17276712
She was a Turk
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>>17276943
>moving the goalposts
Ok, I'll bite. If you and your people claimed Roman ancestry for 2000 years, spoke Latin and preserved Roman identity then yes, I'd consider you Romans
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>>17276712
If Mary was alive she would be pro-Palestine and we all know it.
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>>17276721
The word Palestine comes from the Peleset. They land in the Levant in the 12th century... BC.

Iudean is not a common name for the region until after the 2nd century BC. (it's not Hebrew or Aramaic)
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>>17276952
I mean, Spanish and Portuguese are pretty close to Latin. Does that mean that Brazilian neo-pagans who eat bean soup and farro are basically about as close as you get to TRVE ROMANS?
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>>17276962
>There wasnt even a concept of palestine at the time
That word directly is coined by Herodotus. You will note that there was no widespread use of the word "Iudea" at the time. It comes from the Peleset, who landed with the Sea Peoples.
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>>17276952
So basically any Catholic would be a Roman in your eyes if he learned Latin?
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>>17276970
Between a Brazilian larper and a Spanish/Portuguese/Italian who has his own identity I choose a larper
>>17276976
Catholicism has little to do with national identity
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>>17276978
>So palestinians admit they deaw the idea of their nationality from a bunch of greek raiders that established a colony in the very edge of gaza?

That's hardly the point. If you're going to argue that Palestine isn't ancient, then you have to be willing to accept that Iudea isn't connected with its ancient past either. The name comes from a Scythian princess (Idaea).
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>>17276983
Judaism had nothing to do with national identity before Zionism was created.
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>>17276988
Sure
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>>17276990
I accept your concession.
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Writing dumb things like this just makes the Palestinian side look dumb by association, and all legitimate grievances they have against the state of Israel will be weighed down because of this dumbness.
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>>17276962
Palestinians are a mixture of different Levantine groups, Jews are an unholy mixture of Levantines, Africans, Europeans, and Tatars.
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>>17277007
How is it dumb?
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>>17277012
>me when i lie
Negrostinians have bantu blood
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>>17277034
Show me a single Palestinian who looks like this.
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>>17277007
Nah, I just hate Zionists and think Jewish people who lived in Europe for hundreds of years have no right to live in land lived in and farmed by Palestinians for centuries. The reason why I support Palestinians has nothing to do with genetics or archaeology. It's purely sentimental.
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>>17277041
top lmao
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>>17276712
neither
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>>17277034
>zey have Bantu blood zerefore ve have every right to shell schools ond hospitals vis chemical veapons such ess vite phosphorus forbidden by international treaties
Racism cannot be used to excuse war crimes against civilians.
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>>17276712
Mary was a Jew.
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>Was Joe Bob an American or a Michiganian?
sr8vt
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She is a Mizrahi Jew
I literally don't see the issue.
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>>17277422
>St Peter was technically an Italian Jew
What a normal person thinks it means:
>St Peter was an ethnic Jew who lived in the modern-day Republic of Italy and was crucified in what is nowadays the Vatican City, which is where he was buried
What (((they))) want you to think it means:
>St Peter was a Jew just like us, you see, so that means the Vatican and everything in it should be handed over to the Jewish community of Rome
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>>17277465
Why do post fake samples nigger?
Samaritans are a tribe of jews and they have israeli citizensip lmfao
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>>17277336

What have palestinians done to deserve any compassion?
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>>17276900
Lmao, Hebrew didn't even exist as a language 100 years ago and Mary likely spoke Aramaic, a sister language to Arabic. Fucking tard.
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>>17277549
>hebrew didnt exist

>The earliest examples of written Paleo-Hebrew date back to the 10th century BCE. Nearly all of the Hebrew Bible is written in Biblical Hebrew, with much of its present form in the dialect that scholars believe flourished around the 6th century BCE, during the time of the Babylonian captivity.

The average negrostinian we wuzer is more iliterate than george floyd lmao
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>>17277536
There are less than a thousand Samaritans in the entire world.
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>>17277485
I have no idea what that last part is supposed to mean.
Anyways I still don't see an issue. If Mizrhai Jews are just Jews who lived in the Middle East or the Muslim world, as opposed to outside of it, the she'd be i the same grouping as Mary would have been.
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>>17277422
>>17277574
The issue is not with her ethnicity but her citizenship
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>>17277549
This exactly. That's why the government of Israel officially recognizes Aramaic, Phoenician, Canaanite, and even some forms of Egyptian as being Hebrew. (for the glory and the integrity of the jewish people collectively)
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>>17277595
>Speaks the language of barbarian colonizers
I wish Palestinians would join in on the LARP instead of mimicking Momo
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>>17277603
I have no idea what you are talking about.
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>>17277557
Hebrew was extinct as a language for 2000 years before it was revived in the fucking 30s for Euro-mutt Jews to larp as Levantines.
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>>17277677
>Jews
>Speaks Levantine language
>Has Levantine blood
>Lives in the Levant
>Practices Levantine religion

>Palestinians
>Speaks Arabic language
>Has Arab blood
>Lives in Levant
>Practices Arabian religion
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>>17277740
Jews are Euromutts with hardly any Levantine blood, stop coping. Plus Aramaic is much closer to Arabic than Hebrew.
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>>17277740
>>Has Levantine blood
(X) doubt
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>>17277677
Latin is also technically extinct. Again, if some Roman larpers revive it they'll be more Roman than any other people in the Mediterranean region
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>>17277772
>>17277771

the palestinegro believed that levantines were always mulatto looking like his bedouin ass

Target: Ashkenazi_Austria
Distance: 1.5606% / 0.01560604
33.6 Samaritan(actual_levantine)
24.6 Italy_IA_Republic.SG
18.2 Czech
16.6 Turkey_Arslantepe_EBA
6.0 EgyptianB
1.0 Bantu_Kenya

Target: Palestinian
Distance: 1.4409% / 0.01440909
33.2 Turkey_Arslantepe_EBA
31.4 EgyptianA
20.0 Saudi
8.6 Czech
4.4 Samaritan(actual_levantine)
2.4 Bantu_Kenya
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>>17277939
Stop posting cherrypicked/fake samples.
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>>17277931
It would be like a group of Italians calling themselves Nutalians and saying they're an ancient group, many thousands of years older than the Romans, and speaking Nutalian (Latin), claiming they're distinct ethnic group invented and used it all along.
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>>17276712
She was a Galileean Hebrew, descendant of king David through his son Nathan.
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Jesus was Germanic, that's why he was blond haired
As if God would pick a swarthoid to represent him....
God is omnipotent so he had a member of the Germanic master race be born out of a virgin brownoind local girl
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>>17278148
No, that's not correct. Jesus was Chinese. He excelled at using his chi to manipulate the natural environment and even raise people from the dead.
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>>17278030
You just described Italians though
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>>17277740
ashkenazi/sephardi jews have more european blood than palestinians have peninsular arab blood unironically
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>>17276962
>ottomans
Not an ethnicity retard
>Syrians & Egyptians
Both of these have ruled and mixed with the levant for ages. Ancient Israelites were probably mixed with them from the get-go.
>philistines
Very little evidence of there genetic influence. It's not even known if they were actually greek.Greek.
>Zanj
The zanj were mostly in Iraq, theirs less ssa admixture in the levant than in Spain
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>>17276712
She was a Jew
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>>17276712
She was a 1st century Jew, so religiously closest to contemporary Jews and ethnically closest to contemporary Christian Palestinians and Samaritans.
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>>17277939
What's the comparison method used?
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>>17277422
Mizrahi didn't really exist as a category until recently. Around the same time the "Palestinian" ethnic title was conceived as separate from Bedouin, Jordanians, Egyptians, etc. They're middle-easterner jews that follow Sephardic culture and rite. And historically there weren't a lot of them.

>During the 1940s, before Israel's establishment, the demographer Roberto Bachi used the categories of "Mizrahim" and "Ashkenzim" in his ethnic classification of the Yishuv.[16] In the 1950s, the Jews who came from the communities listed above were simply called and known as Jews (Yahud, يهود in Arabic) and to distinguish them in the Jewish sub-ethnicities, Israeli officials, who themselves were mostly Eastern European Jews, transferred the name to them, though most of these immigrants arrived from lands located further westward than Central Europe.

> Before the establishment of the state of Israel, Mizrahi Jews did not identify themselves as a separate Jewish subgroup. Instead, Mizrahi Jews generally characterized themselves as Sephardi
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>>17276712
Christian Palestinians, closely followed by Muslim Palestinians, are the most closely related modern populations to biblical era Israelites.
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>>17276712
I'm pretty sure she is from Nazareth which is a Christian Arab town in Israel.
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>>17277311
then you are a waste of your father's sperm
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>>17277311
and your mom's egg
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>>17279473
>Christian Palestinians are the group of people most closely related to the people who condemned Jesus to death and spared Barabbas.
>They are also the true descendants of the people whom Jesus called the "Synagogue of Satan" and whom Jesus kicked out of the synagogue for peddling trinkets.
>Also, their ancestors used to stone women accused of extramarital sexual relations to death.
Oy vey. I don't think it's looking too good for Christian Palestinians now.
In fact, the whole Khazar theory would actually absolve Jewish people of any collective "guilt" they ought to have had for killing Jesus, and would instead put the blame on, well, people who've followed the teachings of Jesus Christ for many generations.
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>>17279829
Christianity was designed to destroy the Jewish identity. The fact that Palestinian Christians are the closest to them and deny their own heritage is enough.
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>>17279837
>Dude, it's good for people have heterodox beliefs on God and drop literally every single command given to them by God if it means it'll destabilize the group of people whom I don't like
I'm not sure if you sound more like a glownigger or an agitpropfag.
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>>17279841
You sound confused and angry. I said what I said. If the Jews weren't a naturally stubborn people no one would be keeping the Torah right now. Only a thousand Samaritans are left. Jesus LOST.
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>>17279847
Jesus was not the only person to attempt to subvert Jewish values and faith. Many good Jewish people were lured by the founders of ideologies like Marxism and trans-humanism. Although socialism, utilitarianism, and futurism were not founded by Jewish people, they heavily appealed to the masses of alienated people living in the West, especially the progeny of Abraham. It may be true that not that many Jewish people converted to Christianity over the centuries, but there were many others who did lose their faith for something much more vulgar, such as atheism and materialism.
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>>17279866
True.
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>>17276721
She would've been a syria palaestinan if she were born 150 years later
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>>17276721
>but the West Bank absolutely.
Ignoring all the arabs planted there by the british to curb Jewish nationalism sure
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>>17280121
Never happened.
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>>17276712
uh a virgin
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>>17280121
>planted there by the british
You mean by the Umayyads/Abbasids/Ottomans?
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>>17276988
>>17276996
You should sincerely study Judaism/Christianity/Islam/*insert topic* before holding strong opinions about it, rather than forming the opinion then skimming and cherry-picking the topic to reinforce the existing opinion, you and most well-meaning (i.e. humanitarian, even if selectively) anti-Zionists are guilty of this
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>>17277939
>Czech
>Palestinian

Add some Iranjeet source. Palis were raped by R1a Jeets during the Persian Empire.

> We found that the Hellenistic and early Roman population can be modeled as a mixture of the local population, Beirut_IA (88%–94%), and a Central/South Asian population (6%–12%) (Tables 2 and S8 and Figure 2C). We then analyzed haplotype segments shared between the ancient Lebanese and modern populations in set 2 by using ChromoPainter44 on 2.5 million imputed SNPs and found that two Hellenistic individuals (SFI-5 and SFI-12) and one early Roman individual (SFI-11) had excess haplotype sharing with Central and South Asians (Figures 2E and S9), thus confirming the qpAdm results. The relationship of ancient Lebanon with Central and South Asia also manifests in the presence of haplogroup L1a1-M27 among the modern Lebanese Y chromosome lineages (Figure S10). Haplogroup L1a1-M27 is common today in Central and South Asia but rare elsewhere (in the 1000 Genomes Project,45 this lineage was found exclusively in Sri Lankan Tamil from the UK [STU], Punjabi from Lahore, Pakistan [PJL], Indian Telugu from the UK [ITU], Gujarati Indian from Houston, Texas [GIH], and Bengali from Bangladesh [BEB])
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>>17276721
israelis are khazars (turkic, not descended from judeans), palestinians are arabs (semitic, but also not descended from judeans)



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