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i'm not precious about sex, so i think married men fucking on the side is totally fine if it's cleared with the wife, and if she can do it too if she wants to. but i'll never be down with cheating. if you deceive someone you're supposed to have mutual trust and care for, you're a shit partner and a shit person, no excuses

>>2567449
Imagine cheating at your own wedding. That one anon on here who talked about the underwear secret was amoral as fuck. Thats why I think it made such an impression on me.

>>2567449
wow actual based gay, insanely rare

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>>2567458
thanks. but what if i told you i also believe cheating can be forgiven, like almost every other shitty thing people do to each other? not excused, not justified. but forgiven, with effort

not if they never come clean. not if they continue to do it. not if they just apologize and promise never to do it again, without addressing whatever caused them to do it in the first place. that's not enough

but if they demonstrate genuine remorse, and make and execute a plan to fix the underlying issues and rebuild the lost trust, i think it's possible for some relationships to recover from it

>>2567467
(to emphasize: most couples with a cheater either don't love each other enough, or aren't committed enough, to actually do the work required for forgiveness. most of the time, cheating is a sign that you're not right for each other. but i do believe it's possible in some cases)

>>2567398
>wearing their cummed in boxerbriefs to his own wedding

Holy shit

That’s hot as fuck

>>2567482
I know right? It blew my fucking mind that he'd be willing to cheat right there at his own fucking gay death ceremony for forever marriage. What were your thoughts though? Like what do you think was going though his head?

>>2567482
Also u know i meant he wore his buddies undies not his own right?

I'm an asian guy and I've been cheating on my asian wife with this guy. He's this white guy who fucks me rough and hard, and I fucking love it. What do I do?

>>2567486
Live the lie. Take the passion the white dude gives you and put it into faking ur marriage ;) its hotter that way. Have another kid.

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I'm addicted to married men

>>2567497
I love how soul crushed and sneaky married men are. They are such fucking desperate sluts. Kinda wish most would just stay in the closet and never come out so that repression hornyness could keep compounding.

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>>2567398
if some bi dude is married to a chick and gets dick on the side that's between him and his wife. it's not my job to worry about someone else's relationship. it's between those people.

>>2567449
Fpbp

>>2567497
I love porn where you can actually see their ring

So hot

I lost my virginity at 16 to a married guy and hearing him admit I gave better head than his wife broke something in my brain. Cheaters are probably my primary kink now. Knowing a guy wants me bad enough to risk his relationship automatically gives him like a +3. I've fucked dudes I was really not into just to know his wife would be sleeping where he railed me, or that he'd be going to dinner with her while my cum is still sitting in his stomach. It's a compulsion. I've never been caught but I'm aware that sooner or later something will happen that I can't predict, and I'll end up destroying a marriage.

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Isn't it (((always))) married men getting their dicks sucked at glory holes / video booths?
A gay buddy of mine had a stall in a weekend market. His (((joke))) was that he'd regularly suck off the husbands through the men's room glory hole while their wives shopped.

>>2567700
>I'll end up destroying a marriage
No, the marriage is failing already. The only thing you'll end up in is divorce court, telling a judge and attorneys why you let a married guy fuck you in the ass.

>>2567449
I know a lot of guys from the older generation who are almost openly gay and are married. They have kids and obviously fuck guys on the side, the wives are OK with it and most likely fuck men on the side as well. I think that arrangement would work great for me. I want kids and even though I know there's adoption and surrogacy, ideally the kids should grow up in a home with a father and mother. I had that privilege growing up and wouldn't want to deny it to my own offspring.

The only problem is how on earth do I meet and date women who would be up for it? I mean the reality of what a marriage between us would look like should be clear from the outset so how do I even court a woman who is okay with the fact that I'm a faggot and would be sucking dick on the side if we ever got married? It seems easy but I don't even know where to start.

>>2567821
Marry a lesbian, retard.

>>2567822
I'm not sure lesbians have a motherly instinct to the same extent gays have a fatherly instinct.

>>2567700
>I'll end up destroying a marriage.
you're not that important, don't worry

(what he said >>2567817)

>>2567824
I've seen like 3 gay men with fatherly instincts, and I've seen every gay man on earth.

>>2567821
the thing is... most women who like men want a straight man and they want monogamy. she can have kids with without dealing with some random faggot who only wants her for her uterus

those guys you're thinking of passed as straight for decades and built a partnership that was strong enough that it made more sense to open it up than to dissolve it. you're presumably not in a position to do the same thing, so you're gonna have to find someone who is down for "ethically non-monogamous" from the start. it narrows your potential pool by a lot

>>2567824
dead wrong. but they also don't want to marry men, most of the time. you're basically in "i'm searching for a unicorn" territory, no way around it

>>2567830
i will add sometimes those women are NOT sucking dick on the side while their husband gets plowed. it's more dangerous and less socially acceptable for women to do that kind of shit, and a lot of them don't even have any desire to

some of them are just trapped and waiting for the kids to turn 18 and the savings account to build so they can dump their husband's gaping closeted ass

Every marriage is different. Sometimes men (and women) are homosexual but get married for societal reasons, especially those who were boomers. Sometimes marriages accommodate that, sometimes it's hidden in the closet. Often times everything else in the marriage is good except for sexual intimacy and that is what one partner may be seeking.

At least half the guys I have hooked up with were married or partnered (like me.) A few were divorced from women. In the cases where they were married/partnered, just about all had stopped having sex with their partner.

>>2567483
> like what do you think was going through his head

Not a damn thing bruh. That “straight married man” was just thinking how much he wanted anons baby gravy and really didn’t care about his “wife” because no straight guy would do that. I’m pretty sure that straight guy was soo far in the closet because of family issues or just not ready to come to terms with himself so essentially no they don’t think they’re thinking about when’s the next time he can get fucked by anon


Still hot as fuck tho

>>2567821
I know 2 gay men who are in this situation.
One is divorced but all the family still contact each other and still love each other from what I’ve seen. He divorced his wife because he told her he’s not straight and he would love for her to be in a marriage where the husband is fully committed to her because they knew each other for over 20+ years at that point and he still loves her the same way he did when he was young and before he knew for certain he was gay. She accepted his choice and she remarried and both the gay man and her husband get along good because they love the woman and he’s still involved with his children’s life and with his grandchildren’s lives.

The other one is still married. The wife and kid know he’s gay but he gets almost no play at all because he lives in South Carolina and he has a very specific preference that not a lot of gay men have (not a total Fag) hes a heart bleeding republican and a boomer but he doesn’t deny his sexuality or let his politics get in the way between us or what he wants out of his life. The wife seems ok with his gay side because he’s still the father to his kid and he doesn’t habitually cheat on her nor make her feel unwanted and the daughter is pretty accepting. He only told me that the hard part about that is he has a very small dick and he gets soo much shit for it from alot of gay men so he gets very confused if hes even gay or not even though hes a bottom

So in other words if you want a wife and kid with a bf you’re pretty much out of the loop. No women now a days is willing to accept that life anymore. The only reason why these women did was they understood why the husband found out so late and society will think they “got influenced” but in reality they were gay before they met.

>>2567398
I’m 100% bi but I also want a normal life and normal family.

I’m married but fuck twinks a couple times a year on the side jus to satisfy the urge. Also cheat sometimes with women when the opportunity arises to keep the variety

No regrets at all I have 2 beautiful kids, a sexy wife and great life

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best posts ITT

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>>2567552
me too

it's one of my biggest fetishes

>>2567821
You're destined for they/them genderspecial fujosjhi women, gl

>>2567847
>>No women now a days is willing to accept that life anymore
Ehh, I wouldn't say that infa you're more likely to find more women into gay men today than before because many women are watching gay porn and yaoi and reading gay erotic fiction. For what it's worth this is my dream relationship cause I can only get off to gay sex and reverse ntr anymore.

>>2567467
Agreed. Cheating can be forgiven with tons of work and effort from both sides. But it depends on the situation and couple. Not every "case" or "cause" of cheating can be forgivable or fixable.

Source: my husband cheated on me 10 years ago, I caught him, he confessed, and we worked to make it work. Been together 13 years now.

>>2567946

this is so good but seeing that erect boyclit is annoying. that fag should cage that boyclit forever

>>2567398
You know, I've never considered straight married men having the occasional romp with another guy to be "cheating", per se. I mean, I've always viewed it like a professional baseball player taking in a round of golf. It's a different sport; no harm, no foul.

It's women with their fucked up notions of faithfulness as it relates to sex that came up with the entire concept of "cheating."

For me, it simply does not compute.

>>2567828

When did we meet?

It's the most heartbreakingly painful thing in my life that I don't have children. I still wouldn't want to be married to a woman though.

>>2568939
Why do women seem angrier if he cheats with another man?

>>2569025
Get a surrogate, before they ban it for gay people

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Are we going to talk about how easy a lot of married straight men are to seduce? They are so desperate for attention that if you pretend like you are interested in them and then make yourself available you can usually at least play with their dicks.

I used to have a thing going with this 45 year old blue collar married guy I worked with. He was American of Serbian ancestry. He was 6’5 not really that handsome (Sloaping forehead Serb features etc.) but he had a really long thin dick with a bright pink head on the end. He was thin but had a mild case of gynecomasta and fat ass covered in cellulite like a woman has. He really appreciated that someone thought he was sexy and had a beautiful body and didn’t just take him for granted. It took a while but he was letting me do things like suck on his titts and he was laying me down and making love to me (sensual and sweet). The. Things started to go too far for him.

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>>2569434
Because there are certain assumptions women will make when dating/marrying a guy (unless discussed previously)... they are healthy, they want kids, will be a good provider, are straight, etc... In reality if any of those turn out to be incorrect, women will get angry because you didn't give them the option not to be with you.

For example, it you told them, or led them to believe, that you wanted kids and it turns out you don't, that's a problem. She could have made an informed choice as to whether to continue with you knowing this before.

That was the issue with my wife. It's not that I was bi, it's that I never told her and didn't give her a choice about being with a bi guy.

Im bi in a straight relationship, and I love her, but of course she doesn't know. We are still young enough to not be considering children and such so I have some time to figure it out.

What i dont understand about bi guys messing with other guys on the side is how they are not afraid of STIs. Theres HPV strains that not even a condom protects you from, and you never really know what you are coming in contact with when you get physical with someone new. Not only can something like that raise concerns, HPVs can do harm to a woman's body.

This is the main railguard keeping me from cheating, although if it were up to me, a girl shouldn't feel cheated on if i wanna do some bwc-bro-69 ffs, it's mostly vanity anyway

>>2567486
oh just wait until you get and STD and pass it onto her and/or your kids

>>2567821
>>2567904

Your kids will hate you once the cat gets out of the bag

>>2569579
Yep, all their friends will say "Your dad is a fag" "Did your dad fuck you growing up?" and some of them will try to hook up with fag dad

>>2569537
>They are so desperate for attention that if you pretend like you are interested in them and then make yourself available you can usually at least play with their dicks.

This is why men don’t show feelings. They are already criticized for being “toxic” because of their insecurities of being masculine or being a man who shows feelings “but not correctly”. then when they do show that they are vulnerable and need help from their spouse, suddenly the whole toxic masculinity angle is dropped by women and they have to “man up because they’re pressuring women to be supportive or be the emotional support” and if you try to ask for help everyone just assumed you’re the asshole who needs to “grow up/ man up” because you’re selfish for thinking about yourself and not about what’s really important (your wife and kids)

I’ve been sleeping with a lot of grown men from both gay and DL and a lot of them share the same mindset when it comes to showing emotions and “being desperate for attention” I get quite bothered by it because it just means they’re not allowed to express themselves by a society that claims that “it’s changing how we view masculinity” but in reality it’s only beneficial to women. No wonder why they choose an infidelity life. It must suck knowing no one validates you emotions other than some horny Fag who’s looking to validate their existence ego by messing with your emotions and further stigmatizing your emotions

But yeah DL straight guys are annoying right

>>2567449
Yeah you're so open minded and based that you're totally ok with how other people want to live their lives as long as it's with your permission and approval.

>>2567398
I'm friends with a married 40-something year old professional who is obsessed with me. I never thought I would do it but he once offered me an enormous amount of money to bound his ass in a hotel, and I just couldn't refuse. It's not like he wasn't attractive so I felt I'd be stupid to refuse on principle.

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>>2569593
How would "the cat get out of the bag"?

>>2569813
Yes, that's literally how a relationship works; it's someone you can trust. Otherwise, why date? There is zero reason to be with someone if you don't trust them.

I'm a bi guy who is married to a women who let's me see guys(condoms only of course)
I'm verse and that the hardest part, is finding someone to top lol

>>2571070
Don't be naive. Look through any marriage forum and you can see guys (and women) getting caught cheating. Sketchy behavior, evidence left in pockets (or underwear), suspicious texts, bringing an STD home, looking in your phone (intentionally or by accident).

>>2571124
yes and you are the relationship police making sure to enforce what you think is right in your mind

>>2571161
you're retarded and I hope you get caught

>>2571133
What is causing this top shortage?

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HOLY shit that's a LOT of complaining and arguing without posting content

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>Tfw the 6'3 FOB Ghanaian immigrant working as a contractor in your floor asks for your number

Every single time I've seen the dude he's flirting with some female. I'm not fem at all so when he asked I asked why and he just gave me a smile and refused to answer. This was after he called me his best friend and gave me a hug for helping him with some tech issue on his phone.

There's a bit of a language barrier when he answers and he always smells like he just smoked weed. He's an independent contractor so his boss can't say anything

>I gave him my number with a semi

Fuck my boss was in the room but on the phone, I hope she didn't hear. I have a bf of 5+ years btw lol

Pic rel but obviously not him though his goatee is way fuller

>>2572555
That's not one of the board rules, ya fucking twig. Imagine if everyone that replied added some rando unrelated image and filled up the image limit, you'd also be bitching about that.

>>2572945
Enjoy aids and breaking up with your bf

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>Be me, 20, college guy.
>Always courius about sucking dick, time to time installing and deinstalling grindr.
>Get gf, but she is living in another city and is difficult to see her.
>One day I get out from college pretty early, get horny, install grindr while I text with gf.
>Get guy horny for a blow, tell him I'm new on this and only blow.
>"Ok, good for me".
>Get to this guy's place, late 40's, manlet.
>Nervous as fuck.
>Makes me sit in his bed, see I'm nervous, touch me through my trousers and mades me touch him.
>He took his trousers out, dick still flacid.
>I put it in my mout, salty taste.
>Gets hard, mades me kneel and masturbate myself while he fucks my mouth.
>He cums in my throath, I smallow.
>Cum so fucking hard in the floor.
>He pats my head and I tell him if he can suck me too, "no", "okay".
>I dress up and leave his house, continue texting with gf.

I feel pretty bad after that and I don't install grindr again until one year later when I sucked another guy again while still in a relationship, bad blow, he was a dicklet.

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>>2572954
>Imagine if everyone that replied added some rando unrelated image
or, better, if they added a *related* image wow that would be something

also i didn't realize i could only point out rule breaking, not just people bring the thread down

ps
>fucking twig
that's your best? holy shitstink you

>>2573478
>OC?

hot as fuck

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>>2567482
Fuck thats so hot...does anyone have an archived thread to it?

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>>2569537
Honestly I also have a fetish for straight married men. When I see their ring while I blow them, I almost cum. Especially when allowed to touch and play with the wedding ring.

I have had my fair share of married men and sometimes go to rather ridiculous length to sneak around with them. Had one guy who I sucked in their bed while his wife was shopping but then she texted him that she will be coming home
any minute now and we were in a race because he still wanted to cum. Got out just in time because walking down the street, I saw a woman with a couple of shopping bags trying to find her keys going to the house i was just coming out of.

I also love the married dads who have children, for some reason knowing their seed produced offspring makes me extra horny. Had blown multiple in their cars.

Love randy married guys

>>2576282
I don't target married guys but maybe 1/3 of the guys I have met were married/partnered (with men or women).

One guy I met at his hotel when traveling on business and while I was blowing him he was talking to his wife on the phone.

That one was strange since he used his real name in his gmail address. Looked him up and found a lot of info on him.

>>2576282
>>Got out just in time because walking down the street, I saw a woman with a couple of shopping bags trying to find her keys going to the house i was just coming out of
And she didn't notice you coming out of her house? Doubt x

>>2568939
>It's women with their fucked up notions of faithfulness as it relates to sex that came up with the entire concept of "cheating."
lol tell this to any guy whose girlfriend has so much as winked at another dude. you are delusionally sexist

>>2576426
She's a cuckquean and into gay men, they exist but are extremely rare compared to women who will hate you for cheating especially with other men

>>2567482
Anyone know porn with this plot?

>>2576371
He said walking down the street. Do you assume everyone walking down your street must have come from your house?

>>2577873
that is not relevant to what i said. men (straight men especially) get jealous and hate being cheated on just as much as women. to say that women invented the concept is delusional

>>2567497

I think what makes them hotter is if they've had kids

There's something hot about pleasuring a cock knowing it's done it's purpose and bred some woman

>>2567398
70/30 straight/gay--for lack of betters terms and categories. Been having occasional sex with men for years behind my wife's back. Been dicking other women, too, but that wasn't the question.

>>2578968
Got dicked down yourself?

Have gf but recently started exploring my repressed desires. Have sucked a few cocks now. No one knows.

>>2567824
How are lesbians less “motherly” than gay men when you yourself are willing to trap a straight woman in a loveless marriage and put your kids in a situation where their dad isn’t committed to their mom because he's getting fucked on the side. You aren't a father, you're a selfish breeder that wants to spread your recessive genetics amongst the population. I knew gays were retarded but this just confirms it.

As a bi top that has hooked up with dl married men, it took everything in me not to blackmail them.

>>2580768
>As a bi top that has hooked up with dl married men, it took everything in me not to blackmail them
why closeted gay/ bi / bicurious / heteroflexible guys are so sketchy, flaky, and hard to find

>STIs
>getting caught
>getting tattled on
>getting blackmailed
>outed to someone you know
not worth the risk

>>2581035
>why closeted gay/ bi / bicurious / heteroflexible guys are so sketchy, flaky, and hard to find
they are definitionally sketchy and flaky, otherwise they would be out

>>2581037
kek

I don't see swapping oral really as cheating... More like advanced masturbation since it's always random and there's never any emotional attachment. I love hooking up with other married guys when I travel, but I would never even consider a random slut. Is that completely fucked up?

I'm a married dad in my 30s and sucked 11 dicks so far this year, the second bj I ever gave was in March. I sucked an 18 year old's dick, an 60yo's, 3.5 uncut, one really big one. I sucked the most aesthetic dick attached to a 21yo that lives 4 blocks from me a month ago.

It's fun and I'm getting good at it but there's no ineffability about guys, it's easy, you understand each other which is great, but also less fun because in general seducing a hot girl is extremely hard. There's this whole game of shit tests, little nonverbal cues, balancing the conversation and doing all the work of moving it forward, sometimes group dynamics, It's rarer to succeed but better when it does. Just my 2c

my god I hate bisexuals more than anything. Truly mentally ill fucks with virtually no redeeming qualities.

I used to go cruising almost every day after school. Married guys would always freak out when they realized why I was there and leave because I was young. Then minutes later they’d always circle back and wanna hook up because they’re so horny and repressed. I loved it even then at 12

>>2581254
so you're cool if your wife swaps oral with other guys too?

>>2581035
>why closeted gay/ bi / bicurious / heteroflexible guys are so sketchy, flaky, and hard to find
you answered it well yourself, and there's also cunts such as >>2581441 who "hate us more than anything" for whatever reason.
bi guys who dont want to mingle with the gay scene (and theres plenty reason to stay the fuck away from it, STIs being just one of them) have no niche or community to belong to, most gays i wouldnt touch with a stick, they also dont understand me. so we have no option but to stay on the down low until we find someone we know for certain we can trust and fuck around with comfortably.

>>2581441
Why are you so upset? Sounds very much like a YOU problem

>>2581713
>bi guys who dont want to mingle with the gay scene
Is there a "straight scene"? I don't mingle based on sexuality. I hang with friends, straight, bi or gay. I keep my sexuality to myself. If I show up dating a woman one day, get over it. If I show up dating a guy, get over that, too.

>>2581762
Doesn't need to be a "straight scene" for the existence of a gay scene to exist and you're being disingenuous if you think otherwise

>>2569537
Guys over fifty are so easy to seduce cause their wives probably only have sex with them once a month due to menopause + the fact they are probably insecure about their older body

>>2581772
>once a month

Optimistic lmao something like25% of coupes haven't had sex in over a year

>>2581867
>Optimistic lmao something like25% of coupes haven't had sex in over a year
The numbers I see is 10%, but that's probably 5% for couples under 30 and 50% for those over 50.

>>2581705
Probably not unless we shared. Now if she wants to go down on a girl I'd be ok with that

>>2581037
Fuck that I really don’t want to be associated with the modern gay community I find most of it detestable

I like women and sometimes I enjoy fooling around with guys but being “out” comes with an entire truckload of assumed and expected opinions behaviors, attitudes and I want nothing to do with it. I’ve been to gay bars with gay friends and I’ve been to drag shows and unless the drag is openly comical I find it creepy.

I will never go to a gay pride event and I will never do the political rainbow coalition garbage and so that’s why I will never be “out”

>>2582198
ok

>>2582198
Sketchy, flaky, and now let's add tedious and abrasive to the list.

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>>2582210
It’s not sketchy and it’s not flaky I don’t want to be part of whatever being “out” means today.

It’s not me, I’m not some activist I’m not here to spread the word of the gay. I just like what I like but admitting that now isn’t simply a preference it’s signing on to an entire set of beliefs that I don’t want to be part of.

You can pretend that isn’t the case but it is.

>>2582198
based

>>2582213
>an entire set of beliefs that I don’t want to be part of.
such as?

>>2582198
This.

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>>2582198

Relevant copypasta below:

Women are terrible and dick makes me horny

I'm bisexual and I have had relationships with men and women. In high school i messed around with both but got into a relationship with a girl

1. 16 to 20 on and off again with a girl
2. 21 to 23 with a girl
3. 23 to now (28) with a man

Summary of being with women: Exhausting, mentally draining, a constant fight to make them understand that they cannot simultaneously demand I be their parent without also treating them like a child

One fun memory of girlfriend #2 : Explaining to her that the apartment she wanted us to move into for my final year of college, her second year of college, had a whole fucking extra bedroom, and that was driving the price about 500-700 dollars a month higher than comparable apartments...she wanted us to have an extra room on the off chance people would stay over sometimes.. like yea no shit people are gonna stay over, our dorms were a revolving door scenario because we were in greek life. Our friends will be fine either sharing our beds or on the couch. we ended up not moving in together over this because I was put off by how stupid she was on this subject, and thank god i didnt because we broke up later that year.

Summary of being with a man: I am dating my best friend.

We are monogamous, not lib freaks, both physically fit, both into the same hobbies/shows/books, our sex drives match, he has interesting things to talk to me about, we share the same political views.. it just feels so much better and more fulfilling than being with women has ever felt, and NO i don't think it's because I'm just gay and in denial, I think women rn just are not raised to be good/sane people in general. There is very little impetus for their bad behavior to be corrected in a world where men are a dime a dozen.

inb4 hurr shit dick/aids

You don't get aids if you aren't a slut guzzling cum in gas station gloryholes, and shit dick only happens to fatties with bad diet

>>2582283
>such as?

I don't need all the organs of society coerced into affirming some choice I make as virtuous.

The Homoesexual© / Heterosexual© "norms" presented today are a false dilemma where neither of the options presented are a whole (hole?) answer to an important question yet both purport to be.

>>2582198
It just seems like you’re not into the gay scene. It’s understandable it’s annoying and obnoxious to be around people who want you to be out about your sexuality and pride themselves by being the bigges whores/ attention seekers ever. At the end of the day it’s your business and feeling like you want to sleep with a guy today but not feel any real need to be considered bi or gay is a good thing. No need to label yourself just go what you want to do

>>2582283
I’m not going to even pretend like this is a serious question

>>2582410
That for sure I am not into the gay scene and I’m not left wing at all but the gay community acts like if you aren’t into the gay seen pro trans and progressive commie you are some kind of blood traitor it’s obnoxious to me and immature frankly

Until the gay community grows up and acts normal I won’t identify with it

>>2567821

Fat women whom nobody else will marry.
The fat girl/gay guy is not exactly an unusual trope; it continues into marriage too

>>2581713
While that anon who hates bisexuals is deranged, you’re pretty much just a bitter homophobe who deserves to be lonely and have bad sex.

>>2582405
>>2582485
You’re both categorically uninteresting and nobody asked for or cares about your opinions. Post porn or stfu.

>>2582485
We’ll said. You’re not the only one.

>>2582744
How do I post?

>>2569573
This is the main reason I haven't had an affair. I have chatted a lot of guys up on Grindr, seriously contemplated going to a local gay bar, etc. I want so bad to have sex with another man, but if I caught something and brought it home, it would destroy my wife and me.

>>2582743
you probably have 5 grindr hookups per week and do it bareback, and you had to get tested for STDs multiple times, and you wear a leather outfit to the pride parade and think all that is something to pride yourself with. you do you.

>>2582744
>how dare anyone not fully but into this weird over the top gay activist community

Stop being butthurt

>>2582996
Lol seethe more, gay incel.

>>2583007
>continues giving opinion nobody asked for on a page that’s supposed to be for posting porn.

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>>2581254

Oral is sex, whether you call it that or not. Most of my hookups w married guys were ONLY oral and I'm as Gay as they cum. Not all homos even LIKE fucking.

You seriously gonna say that you can suck face, eat ass, and deep throat another naked man & it's "not really sex"?

>>2581430

When you meet guys in any other context than apps, there is all of that "game of the chase", too. Visit a gay bar when you're in another city sometime.
Apps are like ordering dick off Amazon, and about as much fun

>>2581769

The whole fucking world is a "straight scene" unless shown to be otherwise. Not to sound #woke but it's "hetero privilege" to suggest otherwise. You can walk down the street holding hands w a woman literally any time, anywhere, and not even give a thought to whether somebody's gonna give you shit about it.

>>2581772

as an over 50 who's in a male-male relationship, it's nowhere NEAR once a month. Often not even once a year (we both JO a lot)--after a long time w somebody, their body is boring to you & sex is not what the relationship is about anyway

>>2582198
>I will never go to a gay pride event and I will never do the political rainbow coalition garbage and so that’s why I will never be “out”

Pride is mostly families and straights these days, or boring church groups & bowling leagues marching. It's laughable when the Conservative groups get so panicked about Pride because it's lame-o. You would probably have a perfectly good time, but you don't really miss anything by not going frankly.

As for politics, you don't have to wear pride flags on your chest, but you'd better be glad they're out there fighting for your rights, even if you're a closet case. Without those groups, homosex would still be illegal & the only way to get that dick you crave would be in the shower in prison

>>2582485
>That for sure I am not into the gay scene and I’m not left wing at all but the gay community acts like if you aren’t into the gay seen pro trans and progressive commie you are some kind of blood traitor it’s obnoxious to me and immature frankly

I will admit that the whole whole "Trans/NoNbInarY/43 genders" thing has really set things back for regular homos, and the Right Wing is loving every minute of it. but you can still be politically active for fairness/equity without wanting to share a bathroom w women.

>>2582972

STIs aren't as rampant in the gay community as they make out, though Monkeypox was a scare.
You will almost definitely not get AIDS if you don't let somebody cum up your ass. Use a condom for fucking in general and you're most likely fine.
Sex doesn't have to involve fucking at all, actually--lots of gays love just kissing, cuddling, and sucking

>>2583563
the right wing loves that you piss brains swallow their rhetoric whole and join their cause in vilifying trans people for "setting us back," when they don't give a shit about any of us and never have

>>2583566
>STIs aren't as rampant in the gay community as they make out
yes they are

> You will almost definitely not get AIDS if you don't let somebody cum up your ass
mostly true

> Use a condom for fucking in general and you're most likely fine
correct

> lots of gays love just kissing, cuddling, and sucking
yes, but you can get crabs just from cuddling. and lots of STIs pass through oral, especially gonorrhea/chlamydia

anyway, >>2582972 stick with your instincts. don't cheat on your wife, not worth the risk. try to get her on board if you want to find some dick, because you love her, and she deserves to know where you've been

my best friend is married to a muscled ginger that i constantly jerk of too. ive told him how attracted i am to him and he just laughs it off. the other day when i was leaving their house, i touched his foot with my finger and he laughed saying "what the fuck". what are the chances i can get his dick in my mouth?

>>2583590
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leave your friends husband alone you fucking whore

>>2572971
Don't let >>2572945 forget that he will also have a gaping asshole because niggers with big dicks take forever to cum and just rail harder and harder because niggers have no form when they are too big. I'm sure his bf won't notice his cock falling out of a loose hole lol

>>2580143
Jesus knows and we (glowniggers) know, faggot

>>2583387
>Has standing order for antibiotics
>Wears a diaper with his leather fetish gear
This is why pride is a sin

>>2583557
>t. Woke fag who has never had an original thought
Next are you going to tell us that public sex at pride events it family friendly and that trannies are real women?

>>2583580
Ywnbaw

>>2583590
What a shit friend. Rope yourself.

>>2583597

I didn't say anything abo9ut trannies, and I seriously doubt you encounter them in your daily life at all. these days "transXXX" is more likely to be a "FTM" i e a born-female trying out 14 different gender combinations & made up pronouns so they can be diffErEnT all the while bleeding every month out of their pussy

Public sex never happens at Pride events--you're probably thinking of videos of the Folsom St Fair that the Right wing loves to send around claiming it's coming to your neighborhood next week if you don't vote Republican. Or OLD footage of big-city Pride events that are nothing like the modern ones.
Regardless, "Pride parades" are about 3 hours a year in an isolated part of a city, blocked off for the event. Nobody is going to "accidentally" stumble on public sex without trying. I'm far more worried about being accosted by proselytizing Religious freaks everywhere (including Pride events)

>>2583646
>Public sex never happens at Pride events
Clearly you've never been to NYC, Philly, New Orleans, Miami, LA, SF, etc. pride

I have a firm rule to never fuck a married guy because I don’t want to break up a family -especially- if there are kids, but I absolutely love topping bi guys who are cheating on their girlfriends. The lack of a real commitment makes me feel like it’s ok.

>>2583557
All these buzzwords just to say nothing. No, the world isn't "straight scene." You idolize the idea that your sexuality is a character trait and attach that mindset to everything around you. This is why you view the world as straight instead of a place for everyone. Why do you care what people say or think if you hold hands with another man? Personally I think PDA between any couple isn't enjoyable to look at, but who fucking cares? Sounds like a you problem

>>2567552
If you like wedding rings, then watch this and wait until around 0:36
https://pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph61b0ac3e288a1

>>2583935
>Why do you care what people say or think if you hold hands with another man?
oh, nothing important. just the possibility of having a stone thrown at me for being openly gay in public, y'know. other than that, all good.

>>2583970
>things that haven't happened to me or won't ever happen
Do you live in bumfuck nowhere? If so, that's a you problem and you need to leave, but I'm willing to bet this is all in your head. Go win pity points elsewhere

>>2583930
One should tread cautiously here.

Have a married bro who’s wife become a cunt. He slogs it out for the sake of his kid.

He and I fool around from time to time and beyond the carnal nature of the sex, the ability for him to get a bit of emotional intimacy as well keeps him going.

The current systems we have, the culture we’ve adopted, and the norms we assume from all sides do not appear to be working well.

Uncertain of what the solution is but dead set on a large part of the problem revolves around us, as humans, ignoring deep fundamental truths about who we are.

>>2583582
Antibiotics, vaccinations, and prep are all things that exist. You’re retarded if you let fear of treatable/preventable STI’s rule your life without taking advantage of these easily available options.

>>2583655
>>2584074
You self-hating gay incels may as well be the same person, and it’s funny how idiotic you are:
>public sex at pride events (which basically never happens in reality) is happening constantly all the time everywhere.
>harassment and violence against openly gay people (which *does* still happen and is getting worse in fact) actually never happens.
Your brain is utterly rotted and you are incapable of independent thought. Post fucking porn or go back to /pol/.

>>2584076
How did you and your friend start that affair, and what do you do with him (kiss, suck, fuck, etc?)

>>2583949
Link isn’t working

>>2584117
i hope you get all the love in the world, anon

>>2584118
>How did you and your friend start that affair, and what do you do with him (kiss, suck, fuck, etc?)

We go pretty far back.

While we are each our own person there's a lot we see eye-to-eye on.

In this context we both view fag culture as abhorrent but that's not to say there's no place either for male/male intimacy, be it emotional or physical.

Would wager a well developed male psyche would allow for a primary (hetro) and secondary (homo) modes of operation and the current 'generally accepted' concepts create a false dichotomy where one is either one or the other.

As far as fooling around we started off jerking to porn together, then fooling around in the shower, and now we meet up about once a month or so (we're in separate cities but my work takes me through his on a regular basis) and we'll get a good fuck in.

Again want to note while the carnal nature is fun, the emotional side is the thing of real value here. Married guys tend to get it's a fools errand to show weakness to their wife, even the good wifes, yet the need/hunger to do so remains. This is, I think, the natural role for male/male intimacy in playing a secondary role to support the main (the male/female role).

Ironically what I suspect turns many married guys away is the stereotypical fag image...it sucks all the oxygen out of the room and unless one can see through the false dichotomy I mentioned earlier, they become trapped by it.

>>2583566
>STIs aren't as rampant in the gay community
I've gotten chlamydia twice from hooking up and almost got syphilis, all from guys who were "clean, just tested". Men are human thus also liars.

>>2584112
> You’re retarded if you let fear of treatable/preventable STI’s rule your life
good thing i don't do that. i have sex whenever i want to, but i'm also not retarded or careless enough to think STIs aren't a real issue, or that you can't transmit anything through oral sex

>>2583553
you're going to eat ass and then not fuck? Why? Most people who don't want to fuck have hygiene as at least one of the biggest objections. But if you're going to literally rim a guy, haven't you already gotten past that objection for the most part?

Personally, I'm not a huge fan of rimming, but I fucking love getting rimmed. And I absolutely hate being fingered and won't even try taking a dick, but fucking a guy is fun. But I definitely prefer oral overall.

>>2584143
>almost got syphilis
How can you almost get syphilis?

>>2576282
>>2567946
if you guys have a "married guy" fetish, you owe it to yourself to watch this video; you'll cum buckets.

While blowing his married scene partner, Griffin pulls the guy's ring off, puts it in his mouth, and continues blowing the married guy, sliding the ring over his cock with his tongue. Later, he puts it on his own finger while they fuck.

myvidster.com/video/319744494/Griffin_Barrows_-_I_top_Married_Chris_hes_addicted_to_what_his_wife_cant_give_him

>>2583557
Being gay is the strange thing. Not that I think there is anything wrong with it but it’s not the default position for most people and most times

I don’t understand this need to act like being gay is the equivalent of being straight

>>2583561
I don’t need anyone fighting for my “rights”. My rights are secured by the constitution of the United States. Marrying a man is not a “right” forcing everyone to smile and nod along with your sexual proclivities isn’t a “right”

This is what I mean if you don’t sign on to the entire agenda you are labeled as a traitor I reject that entire worldview and refuse to participate in it

>>2583580
>you need to support cutting off peoples dicks and pretending women are men otherwise you aren’t a real gay

No

>>2583970
Do you live in Gaza lmao?

>>2584117
You are a great example of why I’ll never be “out” or part of your scene

>>2584076
I'm a "married bro" in this situation. Plenty of reasons why I can't get a divorce and made every effort to get my wife to go to counseling or a doctor. Nothing. Lack of sex just made issues worse between us.

When I found a guy I could hook up with and sex was off the table of issues with my wife, things actually got better. I was getting the intimacy I wanted, sexual satisfaction and a friend. The only issue was that while I wanted the intimacy and sex no strings, my partners ended up wanted "strings".

>>2572510
Exhaustion from overwork is killing erections

>>2584208

Sounds like a similar situation.

What I’ve found is having a release valve helps take pressure off the traditional marriage, if the traditional marriage is performing poorly for whatever reason.

Women, the proposition they offer via LTRs/marriage, and the imbalanced peril to the detriment of the male currently accepted by society seems to be designed to result in failure for most, mediocracy for a few, and success for virtually none.

Both the ladies and the gents are being shortchanged here.

And that’s not even touching on the demographic reality FagCorp glosses over: we in the west are not adequately reproducing ourselves.

Would argue the social contract between men/woman (and how homosexuals are seen) need to be renegotiated but I haven’t the slightest idea of where to begin.

But back to the more spicy elements of this thread: a certain amount of guy/guy action can help out those hubbies who’re not getting satisfaction at home for whatever reason.

Can it go to far? Of course; but is not all medicine a poison if taken in excess?

Hope you find the intimacy you seek sans the strings.

>>2584214
I would think that through the middle ages up through early 1900's, having a mistress was an acceptable practice as long as the marriage stayed together and kids were taken care of. So now a guy can hook up with another guy instead of a mistress.

>>2584204
Nobody fucking wants you, but the sad reality is that the community you spurn and disdain out of sheer self-loathing will fight for you regardless, against emboldened bigots who would love to make your life hell. You don’t deserve that sympathy, but luckily not everyone’s moral vision is as narrow-minded or self-obsessed as yours is.

>>2584201
It’s genuinely depressing and pitiful that you hate yourself this much. You deserve all the loneliness and alienation that you impose on yourself.

>>2584214
>And that’s not even touching on the demographic reality FagCorp glosses over: we in the west are not adequately reproducing ourselves.
You sound like you probably have an entire Nazi manifesto filled with this sort of drivel and I assure you no one in existence will ever care enough to read it.

>>2584133
>In this context we both view fag culture as abhorrent but that's not to say there's no place either for male/male intimacy, be it emotional or physical.
You understand that homophobes would still see you as faggot scum if they knew you’d like dick, yes? You aren’t special or different in any capacity.

>>2584208
Any stories or details about your hookups with guys?

>>2584222
Just the classics. The old great books tradition as Bloom called it.

In any event manifestos can exist in the mind without needing to first exist in print.

The thought preceded the deed as does the lightning the thunder, no?

>>2584224
Don’t seek to be seen as special by others. Quite content with the little corner fate and circumstance has afforded me.

The ironic thing is, I think, the hetrophobes are just as bad as the homophobes. Symptoms of a wounded, fractured soul I fear.

Once an idea takes hold -a manifesto- and is believed/beloved by the mind, it serves to form the base of how reality is perceived and ordered.

Some minds cling so tightly to their beliefs, even if materially flawed, they can never let go; death is perceived as less painful than admitting error at such a deep level.

The current conception of woman/marriage seems like a prime example considering the topic of this thread and the abnormal quality of comments seem to bear testimony to the fact the topic hits more than a superficial nerve.

>>2584184
by having sex with someone who has syphilis

>>2584228
>Some minds cling so tightly to their beliefs, even if materially flawed, they can never let go; death is perceived as less painful than admitting error at such a deep level.
the irony of you saying this is honestly incredible

>>2584220
I don’t care you sound like a fag honestly

>>2584221
I don’t hate myself at all, quite the opposite. Again you people can’t fathom that not everyone is like you

>>2584117
>self-hating
Incorrect. Life is great with my husband, but it seems you're just an angry person. Again, sounds like a YOU problem. Kind of ironic that you bring up brain rot considering you're the exact stereotype of an obnoxious gay shouting buzzwords without an independent thought behind any of it

>>2584225
Depends on what you want. I've hooked up with about 50 guys, sort of a try before you buy kind of thing. When I find a guy, I stick with him for a while.
other married guys
retired guys
cross dressers
Most are bottoms/cocksuckers but a few I was vers with.

>>2584275
>husband
Faggot.

>>2584264
>no u
Deeply pathetic.

>>2584275
I guess you can have a husband and still have the mentality of a bitter lonely incel. That’s somehow even more depressing.

>>2584228
>Bloom
A whiny mess of stewing resentments and a yawning void of intellectual vigor. It’s little wonder he’s become something of an icon to the small-minded. Name-dropping him was an excellent way to signal that the rest of your post isn’t worth reading.

>>2584275
>without an independent thought behind any of it
Weren’t you the moron basically arguing that homophobia isn’t a thing anymore? Yeah no, you’ve got absolutely nothing going on between the ears. Stop projecting.

>>2567449
Imagine giving a fuck about hurting femoid feelings when they don’t give a single fuck about you. If you are a non-misogynist gay you’ve clearly failed at life. At least straight men have the excuse of lusting over the weaker, dumber and uglier sex that needs ten pounds of cake-up to look good.

>>2585437
Amazing how you can be so deluded

>>2585437
are you old enough to be on here?

>>2584640
Stay mad
>>2584644
Instead of being angry, go find yourself someone to love. Until then, you can stay mad too
>>2584649
You claimed stones would be thrown at you for holding another man's hand, but that has never happened nor will it. Your victim complex mentality is why you're weak and have no backbone. Stop being a bitch and live your life. Stop pretending some white guy is waiting to strike you down for having sex with another man

>>2585437
Faggot

>>2584220
>spurn and disdain out of sheer self-loathing will fight for you regardless
Oh wow such a virtuous selfless flamer, haven't you considered that most people prefer grounded men regardless of sexual orientation as opposed to loud obnoxious people like you? Maybe the one actually doing the fight for society to tolerate non-straights is that guy

>>2567449
rare moral gay

>>2567821
>ideally the kids should grow up in a home with a father and mother.
if you're this type of faggot surely you realize how heinous it looks the fact that you want to raise kids in a sham marriage where the dad fucks guys on the side and everyone knows it? lmao

real christcuck shit right there

Imagine coming to 4chan for the discussion and not to fap to the cesspool of porn. Like who actually invests that much in their character performance art that they actually take other peoples’ bullshit at face value? You’re all lying newfags so stfu and post pics or go tf back to /soc/

this thread would easily pass as /pol/ at this point. one of the few things that make this board better than most is the lack of discussion, keep it like that, you faggots.

>>2585673
poltards are everywhere and extremely dedicated to their cause of fucking up the internet for everyone else

Question for you fags

Do you consider yourself a bad person for messing with a person who’s in a relationship but you just treat it as just casual sex

>>2585900
That relationship was failing because the person was looking elsewhere for sex. I don't ask people if they are in a relationship or married before I have sex with them, I could honestly care less.

>>2585900
I'll answer from both viewpoints.

As a guy who has sex with married guys, most of the guys are in sexless relationships (most of the guys I met were older.) So that doesn't make me feel guilty.

As a married guy, I feel bad cheating on my wife. I knew I was bi as a teen but never did anything with another guy before or during marriage. She was very sexual during the early part of our marriage and sex with her was great. She went through menopause when she was 39 and eventually I just gave up trying. I had tried everything to rekindle our sex life but she had no interest. If she turned around and regained her interest in sex, I'd stop having sex with guys in a heartbeat. I promised her monogamy, but not celibacy.

>>2585900
no. it's their responsibility to respect their relationship with their partner, not yours

that being said, if i know for a fact that a guy is married or in an exclusive relationship and NOT open, i pass, because i don't want to risk getting involved in any drama. some people can be extremely vindictive

Anyone messed with a homophobe?

I have this friend I made at work he’s in his mid 40s and I’m in my mid 20s

This whole time I assumed he knew about me being gay (I’m “straight passing” but I always assume they know) but one day I had lunch with him and he let out his truth

He’s a Bible thumper and I always notice when he’s honest about something fundamental like his poor health he tends to get very vexed and emotional about it but try’s hard to stay composed.

Long story short he assumes all gays are disgusting confused creeps and need to find god.

> anon who cares what does this have to do with DL men

Well I have a hunch that this guy is DL. When he was going off about the gays he mention that he believes that god will stray away from temptations and people who will tempt him because a few gay men hit on him in front of his wife and he was appalled by the attempt. But does that he believes without god he would be scarfing down on dick because some gay guy hit him up in front of his wife?

Idk after that encounter I see him as someone who’s repressed and just pretends he’s not gay for the sake of his god.

>>2585937
or he really hates fags. You homos try to read way too much into what people say. If he was a cock sucker he would probably tell you so. I mean he wasn't saying all this stuff trying to hit on you, he was saying this stuff so you wouldn't try to hit on him

>>2585937
gotta admit homophobic and repressed DL guys are a fetish of mine.

Only had a few of them, always very much blow and go but super hot.

They'd be going super rough with you, almost hate fuck you but after they cum, they actually start to get a little scary. Had one threaten me with violence if i ever told anyone and insult me.
The married ones were always much more chill, but very dismissive after.

still 8/10 would recommend being used like that.

>>2585642
>Maybe the one actually doing the fight for society to tolerate non-straights is that guy
Has literally never been the case but that’s an amusing fantasy, anon.

>>2585607
>homophobic violence never happens
Club Q.
In case you haven’t noticed, an entire political faction has vociferously started calling us pedophiles. There’s only one way that ends, retard.

>>2585607
>Your victim complex mentality is why you're weak and have no backbone. Stop being a bitch and live your life. Stop pretending some white guy is waiting to strike you down for having sex with another man
Lol you probably would have told the queers of Weimar Germany the same thing. Opinion categorically discarded.

>>2585993
No shit, I still think he’s still in the closet because there’s other situations that happened with him that wouldn’t surprise me if he was a DL this whole time.

>I mean he wasn't saying all this stuff trying to hit on you, he was saying this stuff so you wouldn't try to hit on him

Then why bring it up if I wasn’t trying to hit on him? ironically after he said all of that I started to suspect him of being gay.

>>2586009
How do you find those and how do you get them to mess with you? What signs give it away that they’re curious about you or gays in general?

>>2584264
if you're here, you're probably a fag too

>>2585427
sauce?

what a shit thread

Had a cute skater boy twink fwb for years in my 20s who had a GF. Eventually she found out and they tried an open relationship, they ended up doing a 3 way with some old dude who fucked them boy and then she stopped respecting the twink and broke it off. She's still with the old dude and twink is now bald and into weird S+M shit. Not my scene.

>>2578928
It's better when they have kids, they are protective and fatherly to them.

Ex had 2 kids from his previous marriage, she cheated on him with another married man.

He fucked great, cuddled and always rubbed my belly saying "You'd make a good mother babe" after sex and he got me into that kink of sucking his balls, taint and hole to get him in a good for breeding.

His kids loved me and called me momma or say "daddy's cute bf" loved them kids too

Our connection was nice but his crazy ex caused problems and court deemed him unfit as a parent because of his choice with men, living and struggles. He said woman are only good for breeding, other than that they are horrible creatures

Married men suffer a lot, especially emotionally and mentally from toxic masculinity

>>2586338
more please, what did he look like, any stories?

>>2587572
Tall, bear, not chubby or fat, but build muscle. We meet during college when I was on a workout run.

Only stories I have are sex stories, he'd kiss me, like to carry me and slap my ass while he picked me up and tossed himself with me on him on the bed. My legs at his waist and his cock wasn't huge but big enough that him entering hurt if he just shoved in. Best sex was when he sat and I bounced on his lap while he suckled my nipples and kept saying how sexy I'd look with bigger tits and a big round belly with his babies.

He moved after the divorce he had, his kids did live with us for a bit and when he moved they cried.

Again, toxic masculinity had him hurt, sad and damaged. Last I saw he got fat, not the good kind, balding and his kids are estranged

>>2587683
fuck thats hot, would try to fix him just for that

>>2587892
Fix him? No. It past, he oldest son is friends with me on FB.

I'm engaged to a 6'3 bear, mix of muscle and beefy fat and me a 6' lean guy. Yes I miss that sexy kink my ex put in me, yes I miss his kids, yes I miss how he'd be caressing my ass and lower belly saying "our babies are gonna look cute and get it from you, hopefully one of the twins gets your eyes" but it's over, ended and now I have my handsome fiancé with green eyes and plan to have kids with him (surrogate egg donor of his sister)

>>2567398
Never gone all the way with a guy just jerked off together, traded pics etc.

I’m “straight” and married