As a fem guy who's into muscular, it's a downer that not many (if any) seem to be into feminine guys. you don't even see this kinda pairing in porn, at least from what I've noticed.
>>2577435BECAUSE NO RIPPED GUY WANTS A SCRAWNY LITTLE FUCK.
Wow gay guys who obsess over their workouts don't like skinny twinks, who'd have thought
There might be a shortage of muscular gay men who are into twinks, but if you can pass somewhat, I would perhaps encourage you to crossdress and lean into femininity. When I was a cute underage-loooking skinny twink I was attracting mostly other twinks and daddy types but when I transitioned, I started attracting really hot clean-cut gym bros and bodybuilders who, by their own description, are “straight but really just into feminine people”. This was very surprising to me because I’m by no means fit, definitely in the skinny-fat spectrum.
>>2577435Yes, they areI’m a femboy with a bubblebutt and the first week at my local gym I was able to hookup with 4 guys, 3 of them were bodybuilders like these>>2577440 I’ve heard that steroids make them agressive and horny 24/7 and it showed, they fucked me really hard and I loved itBut I guess it’s true that porn of this is pretty rare
>>2577435get a bbc bf
>>2577442That's the thing, I do workout. I have quite a bubble butt lol from years of squating and hip thrusts.
>>2577448I'm already pretty feminine presenting already, I wear makeup, have slightly longer hair, and I wear clothes typically found in the women's section. But I still just haven't had the luck I guess. Where are you meeting these guys?
>>2577464But that's the thing, I workout as well and have a bubble butt (and rather nice legs) and at the gym I go to which isn't a small one by any means, I've never attracted a muscular guy. When I put grindr on and do my workout l, if I ever get hit up during workout, it's usually fat old guys or other skinny guys.
I dont even care if he's hopped on roads, Jay Cutler was and still is sexy
Hejnasty on YouTube, he's my perfect guy as far as looks go, I'm a sucker for muscled guys who wear glasses. Couple in likeness for video games and that would be the ideal for me. But like op, wish there were guys like these into fem guys...
>>2577594Tinder listed as a woman looking for men but I’m upfront about being trans on my profile.
how many times are you going to make this thread
>>2577603That really works for you? I've thought about maybe trying that because the last few times I tried tinder with men seeking men, I got next to no matches at all lol. I might give this a try but I mean, do the guys actually read your profile?
>>2577435They don't want fem guys because they are fem guys themselves. They take steroids to become the person they desire. Only real men are attracted to femininity (straight and bisexual types).
>>2577794I'm not sure if they are fem but I do notice a lot of them do tend to prefer the bottom role and that would make some sense for them trying to look for bigger guys to top them.
>>2577595you probably just aren’t attractive. maybe see a facial plastic surgeon?
>>2577756Thats a really bad morph.
>>2577794Yep. It's why they whine about other fem guys so much, it's self-hatr and the delusion that they could find the masc straight acting king of their dreams if only it weren't for all the other girly faggots everywhere.The biggest hater of swishy queens are swishy queens with beards and muscle and self-id as totes masc
>>2578058Name please, I beg you.
>>2578092https://www.youtube.com/@ericjanickifitness
>>2578093Wow, that was insanely fast. Thank you very much, anon. :)
>>2578079Yeah I know lol But I still like symbolism of it.
>>2578085I can somewhat see this as legit. Because I've heard some of these muscular guys who are masc4masc bemoan about how hard it is to find other masc guys but it feels like they make such an unrealistic expectation of a masc guy in their head to where even if they find another muscular guy they find attractive, if the guy isn't rough and stoic like traditional masculine, they consider them fem. It's quite toxic.
>>2578064Savage
>>2577834I came
>>2578519
I feel you anon, I'm another femboy wh ois into guys like this but I have not met any who were ever into me. The most I got was an older, retired bodybuilder but desu, he was on the fatter side and didn't look all that muscly. Like you could tell he used to be a bodybuilder but stopped training as hard and lost that physique.
>>2577794You didn't lie but>Only real men are attracted to femininity (straight and bisexual types).Do you realize bisexual men look for trannies and fems for their dicks right? They like women and dick lol.
>>2577448>>2577594Masculine gay men are not into trannies or any men who go out of their way to be like women. The only people who might even show interest in you are "straight" guys in denial, fooling themselves into thinking that you're somehow a woman(?) and therefore they aren't gay/bi for being with you, which is even more pathetic.
>>2578712I'm not a tranny but whatever. I know that masculine gay men typically aren't attracted to men like myself. It's usually bisexual men that are but they are closeted and won't ever date you. But I have not run into muscular bisexual men who are attracted to feminine presenting slim men.
>>2578904>3 that I dated. It didn't work out though.Care to share what that was like? Is it worth trying to date a guy like this if you had the chance? Would you do it again?
>>2577435who's the small guy?>>2577756anyone know the real version?
>>2578967Sorry I'm not sure who it is...
>>2577448You will never be a woman.
>>2578712God this, 100%.
>>2578712I don’t date these guys, but I certainly do fuck them and sometimes will keep them around for fwb situationships because it is convenient (and because they’re hot af). They’re just fun. I have two consistent military gym bros right now for almost a year now who take me out and fuck me silly.I also don’t consider these men to be heterosexual, hence my quotes around “straight but…” because they do fetishize my genitals (which I’m fine with because I’m doing the same with their bodies). I will, however, respect whatever they say they are because it’s not important to me. For the most part, once we get to conversation in the afterglow, most agree they’re “not 100% straigh”t but don’t really know what to call themselves or “don’t care about labels”— which, again, who care? It’s 2023. They know what they like and want— they’re not attracted to guys, not into masculinity at all, but are either neutral about cocks or like the idea of it on a feminine body. I’m more than happy to fulfill those fantasies because it gets me off. >>2579027And I also don’t consider myself to ‘be a woman’. I have just always been extremely feminine, people have seen me as a girl growing up, and medically transitioning just felt like a natural direction to take (my ideal body would be a perfect hermaphrodite, I really like my cock, I just want to maintain my softness). I did not know how much men fucking love breasts until mine grew— and that development has me with a full inbox and chats (from guys who I consider to be physically way out of my league) that I cannot keep up with.
>>2579143>hey’re not attracted to guys, not into masculinity at all, but are either neutral about cocks or like the idea of it on a feminine body.It's called a preference. Just because a guy is feminine and/or feminine presenting doesn't make it any less gay and doesn't make you any less of a man, I'm just being frank here.
Fellow fem guy here and yeah, it sucks that many of these guys are not into feminine guys. I've seen a small handful who >>2579143 mentioned looking for troons but I know reality and I think it would be bullshit if the only way they would accept me is if I lie about what I am by pretending I'm not a man when I know I am one.
>>2579147There's just a supply/demand mismatch. I'm a fit rugby player type who loves destroying fem twinks with my BWC. If I put 'looking for femboys/twinks/skinny nerds' in my grindr profile I get dozens of hits within hours. Any gay bar or party I get pink glitter twinks side-eyeing me. It's too easy and I wouldn't bother with someone I don't consider very hot. When I want to get fucked by a hairy muscle daddy it's harder to find guys as they also have a large pool of admirers, but not impossible. When I date women it's not so easy as women have many fit sporty men to choose from if that's what they are into.>>2579143you sound really hot, have you ever posted pics online?
>>2579319Yeah I suppose it is a supply/demand issue... Still sucks though when you're a twink/skinny/etc who genuinely likes his body despite preferring something vastly different.
I can definitely relate to the thread as a feminine presenting gay man (picrel). I'm really into bigger muscular men myself but I have not come across many if any who were into feminine men, at least ones who present femininely.
Funny I've thought it was the other way around as a muscular guy lol.
In my experience muscular men/bodybuilders are either into guys that look like them or femenine twinks that satisfy their needs
>>2579462You thought what? That feminine guys aren't into muscular men? Because that is very hard to believe desu lol.
>>2579472Are you speaking as a muscular guy or a non muscular guy?
Masculine GAY men are not into feminity. They seek out men. You all dress, act, and present as women, and you want masculine gay men to be into you just because you have cocks? You're basically women in everything but genitalia.Masculine STRAIGHT men are not into men. They seek a female partner. You have a cock so you're not a female, that's why at most you will be their cum dump for a while but never a stable relationship. Quit larping as women, be a masculine man if you want to attract masculine gay men.Also the smaller guys in OP pics are not fembois, they're twinks. Fembois look like women
>>2579681>Masculine GAY men are not into feminityTrue, the general trend is that masculine gay men do tend to prefer other masculine men.>They seek out men.We feminine men are men as well though lol. >You all dress, act, and present as womenNah, we feminine men are not "presenting as women", we are presenting femininely. How do you "act" like a woman? And by this "othering" that you're trying to put on us feminine men, going off your frankly myopic view, do you think that women who don't conform to femininity are actually just men? Look, I'm not saying that masculine men have to date us. What does "masculinity" have to do with muscularity anyway? I've come across plenty of gay muscular men who don't act masculine and I personally can find them attractive as well. The topic of the thread is about muscular guys, not masculine guys because there are muscular gay men who can be feminine as well.
Being into roid heads is boomer core
>>2577435then don't be a fem guyor at least don't look like onethere's so few of muscular guys and lots of femsso it's their marketjust supply and demand, fren>>2577592don't skip leg day doesn't mean do only leg daysif you focused on upper body your gains there might be quicker than otherwise because our bodies abhor imbalancesand eat in order to gain masstwinks don't eat enough
>>2579762Zoomers are more into roids then any generation yet. It's sarm goblins all over the place.
>>2577595Just bear in mind that behavior counts, too. Oftentimes, the big boys are turned off by overly effeminate affectation.You may not like that, but it's true.I know that you younger kids think that people should just buy into whatever act you're selling, but that theory often collides with the real world.
>>2579801Yeah, steroids are a lot more popular now and you have lots of zoomers taking them whether it's traditional or SARMs and so on.
>>2579832>Just bear in mind that behavior counts, too. Oftentimes, the big boys are turned off by overly effeminate affectation.NAYRT but as a feminine guy myself who also looks it, I don't talk like a drag queen. I do notice I sometimes talk with my hands but I don't go out of my way to sound sassy or anything like that.
I would have to say good luck on trying to attract a guy like this because as another fem guy into muscled guys, I've rarely attracted any myself. Could be my location but I'm not in a small town by any means lol.
>>2580120Fuck me please!
>>2579461I'd tickle your prostate if you were nice to me. You do need to work on those tits though. Get pumping, get the right supps, plan your bulks, the right shapewear etc. Body building is body building whether you're building femme or building masc. And this goes for all the femmes looking for masc, be respectful of the closet. A princess in the sheets but a bro on the streets. I'm masc and bi, but I live my life straight, I don't want to have to explain why I'm letting some femboy paw at me and call me daddy in public. People don't need to know about my sex life. What I really want is a femboy/tranny who's only femme with me and only when we're alone. That's not even a closet thing, that's an intimacy thing.
>>2579901NTA but that's the right attitude. It's okay to be out and proud, but you don't need to constantly advertize it to complete strangers.
>>2581219>be respectful of the closetThat's never gonna happen, at least not with me. I'm a feminine guy, that's just the way it is and I'm not gonna pretend to be something I'm not.
We can infer that you're not attracted to physically feminine guys yourself (since you're bemoaning that muscle men aren't into you), which begs the question why you are maintaining that feminine physique? You're actively maintaining your own appearance to be unattractive as per your own standards AND it's not getting you dick either, aren't you just self-sabotaging at that point?>Other gays: are attracted to masculine physique and actively work towards that goal so they can both look hot to their own standard and attract guys who are into the same>You: are attracted to masculine physique but don't work towards that goal, maybe even going the exact opposite direction for whatever reason(s)>Maybe just laziness, maybe repressed tranny, maybe you also want to bait bisexuals and if you get too masculine they won't fuck you anymore>Also you: Why aren't gay men attracted to masculine physique attracted to my James Charles lookin ass? I just don't get it!
>>2579681Everything in this post is true. We need to sticky an infographic that can teach zoomers the difference between twinks and femboys.
Car sex is highly underrated beyond the sheer convenience. The way boy musk is magnified in an enclosed space like that… The cutest marine drove down (a 45 min drive) to meet me at a park near my house to only last 20 minutes inside me. Tall and muscular with the broadest shoulders, really nice furry armpits, and a nice 7-ish inch cock. He was an amazing kisser and so eager to slide inside me. Huge creampie. Somehow he stayed very hard well after cumming but eventually he had to leave (it was 2am by then). On his way back to the base he live snapped himself speeding down the highway with his legs hanging outside the window while vaping— what mid-tier goth femboy pussy does to a mf
>>2582653>only last 20 minutes inside meYou fags complain about e v e r y t h i n g. You know most guys wouldn't even put a finger in you, at least this guy fucked you, and he lasted 20 minutes, which is probably 5 times longer than most guys last, and he only lasted that long because your ass wasn't that good.
>>2582660 Reading comprehension, babe— that was not a complaint, that was highlighting the bold silliness in spending an hour and a half driving for a 20 minute romp in the backseat of a car. I mean, I guess it wasn’t that good if we’re meeting up again this weekend. Enjoy the lack of hot fit guys who enjoy your company :^
>>2577448There are more tranny chaser bisexual men than people thinkThey self-identify as straight
>>2582679They can identify all they want, but it's hard to convince any reasonable person that you're straight if you tell them you fuck men, with fake tits and a dick, in the ass but still consider yourself straight. Same with the trans community as a whole, any reasonable person that you can just up and change your gender.
>>2582653is that you or him
I can relate to the thread but as a black fem guy, I feel this a lot because it feels like what little muscular men might be into fem guys, they won't be attracted to black gyys... I mainly only attract out of shape guys even though I myself have a slim body and maintain if.
>>2582803Neither but it is one of the fit military guys who drop by now and then
I'm going to be real with you. I think it has almost nothing to do with muscular dudes not liking feminine guys. I think you're just massively, massively overestimating how attractive you are.Bodybuilder sized gay dudes are like less than 1% of the gay population. These guys spend 20 plus hours in the gym a week on top of carefully managing their diet and roiding. Compared to that the average family dude spends what 20 minutes a day on hair and skin? Even if muscle dudes horny as fuck and are all dicking down five guys, you still need to be in the top 5% to get their attention.The problem isn't that they don't like feminine or twinkie guys, but you're just not in the same league
>>2582854Yes, I have considered that but I know that I'm not bad looking. I really do try my best to look good. I shave, exfoliate, and I learned how to do a natural beauty type of makeup look that at least to me looks tasteful without looking drag queenish. I know that when I am put together after waking up, I like totally fine, maybe even cute. But as a black feminine guy, I know that I'm walking with double the stigma regardless of how I look. I have accepted that race matters a big deal, it still bums me out but it is what it is... I also workout. I'm not fat and have a slim figure.
>>2582867Yeah the stigma is real fs. I have been with a lot of guys like this who are into black women (including trans girls) but not black twinks or fem boys.
>>2582874It's just annoying because my appearance is pretty feminine ignoring fake breast implants which I don't ever want to have ever.
>>2582867post yourself and we'll decide
>>2581612>I'm not gonna pretend to be something I'm not.You dress and move like a woman despite not being one. Isn't that pretending?
>>2583077Nope
>>2581219i want a bodybuilder who's only masc with me when we're alone, and hides his muscles under a muumuu when we're in public. can't be explaining to my girls that i'm into gym bros
>>2583077I don't dress like a woman, I just dress femininely. And what do you mean "move like a woman"? Get your head out of the gutter lol.
>>2582867>I'm not bad lookingYeah that's what I'm saying. If you want big muscle guys, you're shooting for the top of the top. You need to be drop dead sexy, not just "not bad."
>>2578967Justin Owen (small guy) and Austin Wolfe (big guy) in Welcome to L.A.: Burbank
>>2583114>I don't dress like a woman, I just dress femininelyBut... why though?
>>2583386probably because he likes it. why do you care?
>>2583386why not?
>>2583423This entire thread is dedicated to one of the reasons you might not want to.>>2583411>why do you careSounding a bit defensive there sister. I'm just trying to understand the reasoning, because usually when people make a choice and don't like the consequences of it they make a different choice next time. That's why I'm curious what they're getting out of this that is compelling enough to suffer those consequences and NOT change, even if they do complain about it.Also notice how the goalposts have been moved? These threads used to be about>why aren't most muscle guys into skinny/twinky guys who don't work out?and now we've gone down the slippery slope to>why aren't most muscle guys into guys who wear makeup, basically crossdress and shape their body to be as feminine as possible?Just thought that was an interesting observation.
>>2583386>Why?Because I like it? It's not rocket science. People wear things that they like, it's no different than why you like to loo kthe way you do assuming you';re wearing things that you genuinely like and not solely because you feel you have to. I like how carefully crafted eyeshadow looks on my eyes. I like long flowy skirts look on my slim build. I like how longer hair looks on me as opposed to short hair. I mean again, it's not rocket science and I'm not "trying to be a woman" because women are not defined by clothes. Me wearing what I wear doesn't obstruct my subtle adam's apple or my wide shoulders or my long hands. You're right that it does bum me out that it seems like muscular guys in the gay scene aren't attracted to it but it's not enough to make me force myself to dress in a way that I don't like on myself. So I am dealing with that fallback but I've had this thought on my mind and wanted to talk about it.
>>2583386This is a pink board. You aren't supposed to be here since you aren't 18 years old.
>>2581220>it's ok to be gay>but only as long as no one can tell that you're gaySo... homophobia. That's homophobia. That's what that is. It's hate. You are hateful. You.Lemme know if the big words are confusing, I'll try to explain it more simply.
>>2583633Why can't you answer the question? Why do you care? Why should you care?
>>2583681>don't complain about being assumed to be trans all the time>don't complain about awkwardness when people have to assume your pronouns>don't complain about people distancing themselves from you and being openly or secretly disgusted>don't complain about being at risk of harassment or violence>complain about not getting the kind of dick you would preferThis is some next level femalebrained zoomer shit, and most importantly why the fuck isn't this thread on /lgbt/?>>2583689>Being extremely flamboyant, performative, overdramatic and attention seeking with every minor interaction is an implicit, inseparable component of being attracted to the same sexNo need to wax poetic with the dramatics about literally two sentences, you're not in theatre class. And you might want to start over on your eyeliner, your hands were clearly trembling too much right after typing this that your wing is definitely crooked.
>>2583703I care only to the extent that he's complaining about it on this website and it's mildly annoying being confronted with this shit waste of a thread while I'm trying to jerk off.
>>2583703>anon makes a thread that his hobby is shooting himself in the foot, but complains that the pain is pretty bad and going to the hospital every time is annoying>question him about why the fuck he continues to shoot himself in the foot then>(you) come in being like "Well what does it matter to you?! Are you the foot-shooting police or something?"
>>2583709>My dressing the way I do is not a "hobby", it's just my preferred style. >I continue being true to myself because I'm not going to make myself be something that I know I'm not. Guess what, the masc4masc guys complain about being lied to when it turns out their perceived masc guy they fell for actually has feminine tendencies. I don't see the point putting myself in a situation like that.
>>2577448literal groomer wtf
>>2583999You're a man yet you mimic the female appearance under the pretense of "being feminine", so you're basically a gay crossdresser, are you sure you're not just trans? Or would that be too ordinary for you? Femininity is directly related to women and their characteristics, go read a dictionary, you might argue it's not related because of woke relativism brainwashing, but most people (including the kind of men you lust for so much) will never see it that way
>>2577435Well, porn is not exactly reflective of the real world.In fact, a fair amount of gym rats like the littler boys, more than you might expect. Something about opposites attracting, I guess.I myself have always been on the smaller side, in shape, but not exactly with bulging muscles. They tend to appreciate it when you obviously put some effort into your appearance. And I've had a measure of success with them sexually.You just have to be careful in approaching them, because it's hard to tell the ones who would do you from the ones who would pound the shit out of you if you come on to them.I'm actually into guys more like my own body profile (sometimes sames attract, too, especially when you're a narcissist, like I am), but ever once in a while I like to be in powerful clutches of a big guy -- fit ones, not lard asses -- and have real primate sex, with him calling all the shots.Don't be afraid to go after what you want. You may not get it, and you may get beat up trying, but when you win, that's everything ...
>>2577435I'm masculine muscular bisexual (but dated only boys for the last 5 years) and its all about twinks, fems, crosdresser fems, traps and trannies for meI like it when they are girly, flamboyant, soft, weak, elegant. I like when they have nice big eyes and soft feet, no body hair (I have enough for both), squeeze my musclesAnd they love me too, so it was always very easy to date them, and it's pretty neat when you have such a nice boy and he is appreciative of romantic stuff too, and not just all about mind games and getting railed like females do. Ofc, they do panic and cry/whine like girls over nothing.
>>2586374You say all this bur did you actually have long term relationships with these guys or were they just flings?
>>2584120Some of us just like being skinny and wearing slightly faggy clothes, it's a taste thing like liking the color blue or red.Yeah I wish I could attract masc guys being a twink slightly fem guy but whatever, I'm not going to try to guilt trip people into doing shit they don't want to, I'm not entitled to fucking.There's nothing wrong with "fem" guys venting about how they wish that a bodybuilder would like them as they are, it's harmless >tfw no gf stuff
>>2586712Exactly. It's not pointing the blame at a specific person, just the situation really.
>>2577448There is a shortage of healthy, muscular gay men, period.
I’m a chubby fem gainer, and my ideal scenario would be a hunky muscular guy who wants to fatten me. But after reading all this, I think it’s going to remain in the realm of fantasy lol! (sob!)
