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awesome drawings anon
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>>642055
Thanks! Your drawing is very cool, I like your use of shadows its fun.
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Isn't that basically what /i/ just always is?
wtf is the difference between MS Paint and tegaki?
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>>642069
tegaki has layers
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>>642059
ty anon <3
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>>642075
MS paint seriously doesn't?
How the fuck do you draw anything?
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>>642079
I like this, i love how it really feels like every muscle just slots in together. i've been studying it recently. also those arms are epic
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>>642113
<3 ty anon you comment really makes me happy
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how did you change lineart color in paint?
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>>642048
foot fetishist
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>>642134
Not the best at explaining but this hopefully gets it across
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>>642136
interesting, thanks
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>>642137
No problem!
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>>642096
i know right
its nostalgic to draw without layers tho
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op i am so sorry that your thread would have almost died with the last post being an autist with a foot fetish. here let me make it right
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>>642059
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This is the kind of content i come here for
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experimenting with colors
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>>645083
>>644733

Your artstyle remind me of 2000's cartoony anime like cyborg 9 or astro.
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>>645086
I have many art style but you are right I like so much the osamu tezuka style
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>>642059
Dude What's your socials?
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>>644643
Thanks alot! I like you drawing aswell! The thread in general soo far has had alot of fun drawings with neat styles.

>>645445
Got my account on private, so you would need to follow, which I could see why it would be annoying.
https://twitter.com/nathanrayman1
Although I do also post on pixiv.
https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/13245932

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>>642273
These are moe!
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>>642079
Not sure if this is oc or not but the character design rocks! I would love to read comic/manga with these characters!
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>>646237
is original design
I hate this new captcha system
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>>646563
Love the line work! also yeah geez the new captcha system is terrible
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I got asked to draw a mech from titanfall and this is the result of it.
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Just susie
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>>647553
Thank you for the compliment. I might draw more of Susie because of this. ;)
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cutes <3
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Thanks!
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>>647984
i LOVE it!
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>>648511
woow anon this is awesome and cute

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nice waste of image limit asshole
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Thank you! what happened with your post?
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This one actually has a 23 second animation to it; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZZsHl0Lku4&list=PLe4skLPbN0Fk_isgXJWRkALcEYdmUTknj&index=2
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Respect to everyone in this thread. You make me proud to use this art program.

Though I'm too embarrassed to show my own serious pieces. Please accept my silly offering.
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social medias?
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soul
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>>649971
this is swag
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i do a little ms painting
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fuck forgot i resized it big
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So I here I was just casually exploring for the best place to ask my question if you can make decent artwork using just a desktop computer and some app and then I see this.
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>>642047
>2
>>650640
So I guess, uh... anyone have tips on this kind of art? I'm "good at drawing" in the sense that if I go to a low level art class, the teacher will compliment my skill. I can copy and things like that and I can make some really creative things based on an amalgamation of different models and ideas (at least I used to be able to I don't know if I'm as good now), but I can't really e.g. draw people off the top of my head.

That is to say, I know some basics—like different methods of shading, measurement methods, a little bit about lighting, a general idea how to not make people look dead—and I've sort of painted before, but I don't know how tf to approach drawing off a computer application and I don't have money to invest in a drawing pad at the moment, but I'm just so fucking bored. I need some kind of creative outlet and I want to be able to share it and potentially do other things with it without also wasting paper and materials.
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>>650642 (1/2)
loomis is foundation is my man
you can't skip muscle growth and skip to sprint marathon immediately
first things first develope your perception
peopel often see things but don't percieve them that well for example if you were to ask e to think of a person they know they can see them in their mind's eye but they haven't quite percieved them at all hence why non-artists suck at potraits or distinct fac drawings of anyone even if they're someone very close
your brain is a monke brain evolved to be efficient it does everything on a need to know basis hence why it only remembers the gist of it all
but you wanna be an artist don't you?
that requires perception rather than merely seeing and imagining things
not bbeing able to draw/recreate/imagine raw reality in your mind's eye is a no go
you gotta pick up on loomis
this is exactly why the "animu iz bad art" meme came from a huge amount of retards got influenced earlty and instead of building up from the foundation and then specializing their art style like the pros/legends did they go for the "i'll jury-rig my brain and imitate the animu artstyle" its a sign of lazy art
so just stick through loomis
draw realistic figures as often as the stylized ones of not more and get the shapes and forms down to muscle memory
atleast that's the path to becoming a big-time big name artists and be remembered by people
if you wanna be a bargain bin cheap commission artist wasting life away drawing low-effort porn on cuckreon and feed of neets then just stick to your "oh so original stylized artstyle"

if "i don't like loomis" is your motto then you might as well quit early and invest time into some more suiable skill for yourself
there is no such thing as "muh artstyle" its all just people being lazy and sticking to their prefered visions and that too only looks god after they've conquered the foundation skills
sure you could prolly drop a few names of "professional artists who never did loomis" but don't forget you
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>>650644
(2/2)
you're not the one in a million artist with godly artist genes and years of build up asian script wrinting wrist muscle development
you're in this rat race like the rest of us
follow the path that's tried and true and you'll get there
it's quite literally just that
don't go for the "animu/pastel/instagram/tumbler" shit man that's just setting yourself up for failure
the loomis pdf is up there somewhere go pick it off of the /ic/ threads and practice that shit
do it in your private sketchbook and never show them to anyone that's fine but you better build up that perception and muscle memory

ps if you're a kid don't ever think of drawing as your go to profession (be it animator/illustrator or what not)
the grind is hell you're better off investing in some ther more worthwile skill
if that doesn't scare you off and the promis of mediocre returns doesn't either then all i can say is welcome to the rat race
see you at the finishing line faggot
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>>650641
don't use a digital computer until you're good with a pencil
most artist go and fall for the "better tools mean better art meme"
you just need to pick up your pencil and work on that loomis grind
you'll get there in due time like this anon says>>650644
just relax and draw on paper and take a picture of it to post on here its that simple
jsut don't get easily discouraged or intimidated if you don't get immediate responses or extreme responses
this board is super slow and populated with spergs
so youll be better off joining up and posting in one of the staple threads like the waifu tower thread or the oc request thread of the rei bear thread or any other one
you're welcom in our ramshackle community of autists and spergs : DDD
hope you stick around
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>>650646
loomisfags when they swear by some no name faggot from the 30's who drew advertisements before dying prematurely

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>>650646
Ho sheeeeit I use mouse

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>>650646
I'm 29 and a STEM major. I'm not intending to do this full-time and honestly I'm more interested in writing or... something I dunno. But I already know all this stuff about not pursuing it as a career. What I said is true verbatim; I'm doing this because I am bored and need a creative outlet so my brain doesn't rot and so I can actually enjoy life.

Naturally, I want to improve my drawing skills so I can draw better, but I don't know. Its fucking depressing and I can't seem to enjoy what I draw and I don't really know what to do to actually like the process.

I think art teachers honestly set me up to be like this because when I used to take art classes as electives (honestly just out of cowardice) they would always tell me I'm good and all this shit. Teachers seem to really like me a lot of the time...

I have 0 expectation of becoming an artist professionally, and since I know what happens with "big" youtuber animators and I have artists friends and all this shit I know artists don't get big, I know their work tends to be stressful and I don't desire to be known as just a graphical artist. Like, that's never been a thing; my "out there" dreams was to make a story in some kind of medium and even THEN I don't think about money or fame.

Really, if you want my still-unrealistic dream, it would probably be to make a group of friends that somehow work really well with my artistically and just do... something. A play, a song, a comic. Something. I want to share that with some audience and have people enjoy that. I don't want to make money off of it.
But I also realize thats unrealistic.

I don't give a fuck about money with art. I am not a business major.

But when I sit down and try to just practice the human face, I hate it? It looks the same. I feel like I'm doing the same thing over and over and can't progress or do anything artistic and I'm not sure at that point how to practice drawing on my own and still enjoy it.
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>>650655
And its like every time I try to draw, I just get fucking depressed. I don't know why, but I do. I know I shouldn't think "this doesn't look right" or whatever, but it happens every fucking time.

What usually happens... actually, I think what ALWAYS happens unless I'm replicating someone else's sketch... is that I'll think "I'm just going to draw a cartoon/anime thing with no irises" and then I'll draw a really shitty face that people would either laugh at or give me the "hurr durr better than I could do" and I'll try to look up sketches of faces on Google or look up face sketches in Loomis. Then I see some really realistic sketches and start thinking you know what fuck it maybe I can somehow transplant some of this onto this sketch, just change a few things and add this in the end, I just end up making a bad drawing of one of just a handful of older men I can sort of draw.

Usually, I end up with stuff that is pretty close to this description:
>A middle aged-ish man squinting with an angry suspicious face towards the top right corner facing slightly stage right with an awkward head of hair parted down the center and a round nose with very pronounced nostrils and a very square jaw and the neck is just two lines or sometimes, because I'm bored, I'll draw a little bit of a shitty chest below it or turn him into a crab spider thing
>I can't make him like a young attractive person even though young attractive people because I'm too obsessed with details even though I know I can't draw them.

Funny thing; I just tried to make something in MSPaint just know just to see what the difference and found the quality is actually on par with my drawings at least in some ways I think, which is strange.

I guess I could just leave the wrinkles out and then I'll have at least a drawing of something different, but then the drawing is even plainer and I have nothing to do with it.
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>>650655
>>650657
how about you actually post your art instead of writing an autobiography about how much of a whiny faggot you are
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>>650659
Because the rules say quality over quantity? I thought you could only post them to /ic/. I was coming here to ask questions about this idea of using MS Paint to make art, but then I started finding myself going about this.

I looked at the /ic/ beginner thread but what the fuck is even going on in that thread? Those people look like they count "beginner" as "being able to draw fappable porn" or something.

Here...

>>650660
Its not like everyone browsing here can draw at a level worthy of posting.

>>650645
I didn't read this whole post for some reason. Sorry.
So, I would post something I drew by hand and do as you said, but I already made this, so I'll just post this.

I don't know why I'm posting this. If you go on /ic/ everyone ignores the "don't be rude" rule so... the fuck... I mean what part do I... how do I even...

Whatever. Here. Laugh at my fucking drawing and tell me to read Loomis again. Then I'll get banned for posting a ""junk drawing"". How am I supposed to learn from a fucking book anyway?
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>>650667
HOLY FUCKING SHIT SHUT UP
GO DRAW SOMETHING AND THEN REPORT BACK. REPEAT UNTIL YOU GET DESIRABLE RESULTS. IT'S SO FUCKING EASY TO DO THIS AND YET YOU MAKE IT SOUND LIKE THE MOST MISERABLE THING EVER
YOU DON'T WANT TO MAKE MONEY? YOU DON'T WANT TO DO THIS FULL TIME? YOU JUST WANT TO DO IT FOR FUN? THEN TAKE YOUR TIME AND STOP BEING A FUCKING SPERG ABOUT IT
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST
EVERY FUCKING TIME I TURN AROUND THERE'S ONE OF YOU AUTISTS WHO COME HERE JUST TO BITCH ABOUT HOW HORRIBLE YOU DRAW AND HOW YOU WANT TO KILL YOURSELF LIKE ANYONE GIVES A FUCK ABOUT YOU EXCEPT FOR THAT INDIAN FATASS GROOMER KOTFAG, WHO PROBABLY MISTOOK YOU FOR AN UNDERAGE TEEN WITH DEPRESSION BECAUSE OF YOUR PATHETIC LACK OF SELF ESTEEM. I HAVE SEEN THIS SHIT OVER AND OVER FOR FIVE YEARS BECAUSE YOU KEEP KILLING THREADS TO FEEL SORRY ABOUT YOURSELF FOR BEING A USELESS PIECE OF SHIT.
YOU ARE ALMOST THIRTY FUCKING YEARS OLD AND TELLING SOME STRANGERS ON A FORUM THREAD FOR MS PAINT DRAWINGS ABOUT YOUR LIFE. YOU OBVIOUSLY HAVE WORSE PROBLEMS THAN NOT BEING ABLE TO DRAW GOOD. IT'S NO WONDER YOU'RE A STEM MAJOR, ONLY THE MOST AUTISTIC GROUP OF PEOPLE GO THERE AND DO MATH BECAUSE YOU ARE LITERALLY TOO RETARDED TO FIGURE OUT ANYTHING ELSE, ESPECIALLY SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS NOT CRYING LIKE A LITTLE BITCH ON THE INTERNET UNPROMPTED YOU ACTUAL FUCKING LOWLIFE.
WE ARE NOT GOING TO BABYSIT YOU AND MEND TO YOUR RETARDED 15 YEAR OLD LIBERAL TIKTOK FEMALE ISSUES, SO TAKE YOUR FIRST WORLD MILLENNIAL FAGGOT PROBLEMS AND F U C K O F F
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>>650668
Getting mad and going for a brisk walk are both free. Absolutely free. Cost no money.

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Alright fair enough.

Maybe I'm just frustrated because I can make stuff like this in art class (few years ago, but still I don't think I even practiced much beforehand then either), but then when I'm not in a art class and try to draw people its just kinda...

I still could work on some things woth this sketch, as you can obviously see. I guess I could just keep drawing this. It was based on a sketch though
https://allhdwallpapers.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Dragonfantasy-4.jpg

I tried to draw in a few more things. I think I should probably use something to make the accidental stain actually bigger so I can salvage it. It also still needs to get DARKER. IDK why but I have trouble making things DARK.

I kinda messed up the spikes and tried to turn them into stalactite wounds (now it looks a bit 2D. I gues thats what I get for not checking the reference again lol. Whatever Ill work on it again)

Perhaps I can just keep tracing things like this and changing them a little and see if that leads me to something that satisfies me. I just hate uploading it as an image is all. I also need to learn to color


Sorry for wasting space in this thread for this, but I didnt want to leave all negative and incel-y like that. Maybe I'm also worried if some of me not-so-advanced skill has declined, but tracing things isnt so bad I suppose now that I've gotten back into that at least.
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>>650677
TOO BAD YOU CHOSE TO WASTE SIX MINUTES OF YOUR LIFE THAT YOU WILL NEVER GET BACK DRAWING SOMETHING THAT LOOKS LIKE TOTAL FUCKING DOGSHIT WHEN I COULD DO BETTER IN MERE SECONDS.
YOU ARE WORTHLESS. GET THE FUCK OUT.

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>>650685
you are the most pathetic angry little goblin on this board
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>>650696
SAYING THAT WON'T MAKE YOUR FATHER COME BACK FAGGOT
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Kamen Rider J from memory
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>>650696
Take everything the fags on these board say with a grain of salt anon
If you wanna improve just put time into drawing daily and often and be sure to pick up on loomis
As this anon demonstrated >>650685 For all the big talk most of them spew out a good majority of them have dog shit art
Just don't take them seriously and post daily
Within a month of daily and consistent posting it's impossible to not spot a direct sign of progress
Donot get intimidated bu the literal neets who don't do anything besides shit-post and bitch about "newfags"
You're the lifeblood of this board don't be intimidated by these dogshit fags
Go on and make a dump thread and post doodles there
Not like there's many active threads at he moment
Hell there's a thread past both bump and image limit still alive for some reason
Just make a thread and post as often as you can And mosT importantly have fun
You'll have a clear timeline showing your improvement : DDD
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>For all the big talk most of them spew out a good majority of them have dog shit art
>Donot get intimidated bu the literal neets who don't do anything besides shit-post and bitch
WOW! THESE TWO THINGS JUST SO HAPPEN TO DESCRIBE YOU AND EVERYONE WHO DEFENDS YOU PERFECTLY, YOU FUCKING DUNCE.

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>takes 2 minutes to doodle a simple ass kermit
>doesn't even get the hand holding the gun right
>thinks he's some oldfag dropping knowledge on the newfags
>wants to be taken seriously
kek
you and tards like you is the reason theboard doesn't get much activity
not everyone is a neet whose life and income depends on improving my magnitudes in a small aount of time ou retard
some of use just teens who wanna doodle and have agood time
stop trying to disillusion newfags
this isn't some "oh w're so cool and exclusive" club hazing technique
you're quite literally intimidating new posters from improving by aggressively projecting your inadequacies on them
cut the kids some slack yo
let them atleast fall in love with drawing before you go trying to shove your over-zealous drawing dogmas onto them
there's a reason his kinda teaching methods don't work in schools
im not asking you to create a fucking hugbox but for the love of god stop acting like some wannabe gate-keeper
your art is just as dog-shit as everyone else for all your big talk and loomiseething you're no better at it than anyone else
hell kottanon successfully btfo'd you by simply putting more effort in his posts
you're the definition of "sad pathetic neet with inferiority complex"
don't be expected to be taken seriously without posting some good art yourself
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You ruined this thread with superiority complex and self victimising, I'm leaving, we need open a new mspaint thread

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>>650707
I'M LEARNING AND HAVING FUN DRAWING KERMIT IN DIFFERENT STYLES FOR THE FIRST TIME, DIPSHIT. MEANWHILE, YOU DRAW AND WRITE ABOUT THE SAME SHITTY AVATAR FOR EIGHT MONTHS STRAIGHT AND YOU STILL HAVEN'T DRAWN MORE THAN ONE EXPRESSION ON IT. WHO'S REALLY LOSING?

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>>650709
>different styles
kek
i really hope you're a edgy 16 year old and not an actual neet otherwise i'd feel sorry for you
i'll no longer shit up this thread my point has been made
atleast you're posting art now so that's progress beyond just seething
if you wanna continue the argument we'll do it in my thread from here on out
you know the one
see you around anon : DDD
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>>650710
THAT'S RIGHT FAGGOT, GO IN TIMEOUT FOR REARING YOUR ASS-SHAPED HEAD IN A THREAD JUST TO WRITE AN ESSAY FOR SOME AUTIST WHO WILL LEAVE THE BOARD JUST AS SUDDENLY AS HE ENTERED IT. WHEN YOU GET OUT, DADDY HAS A SPECIAL REDESIGN OF YOUR PERSONA SINCE YOU LIKE CHANGING THE NARRATIVE AS QUICKLY AS YOU CHANGE SHIRT SIZES.

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>>650711
no faggot I am not a tourist my drawings are along here in this gallery.

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The internet never changes lol
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>>650657
>And its like every time I try to draw, I just get fucking depressed.
this is normal. art is pure suffering. Everyone universally complains about it constantly because it's true. i've done other things and it isn't as bad as art, for some reason art is just uniquely soulcrushing.
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>art is pure suffering. Everyone universally complains about it constantly because it's true.... for some reason art is just uniquely soulcrushing.
it's not "for some reason". it's a simple explanation: you're too hard on yourself instead of enjoying a fun passion. relax and draw
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>>650807
stop giving the attention whore attention
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hello =D
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>>650806
>not enjoying pain and pleasures of art
NGMI and i mean that in the least demeaning way
just don't try to be a marathon athlete if you have heart problems
why try to become something you can't be
if you're discouraged by this statement then that is proof enough that you're not made for art
someone who's gonna make it would make his own choice without having to rely on other's spoon-fed opinions

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>>650806
Maybe its that sad and bored people tend to do art. Without the capacity to do (flourish) one will either choose to destroy or create.

Meaningful art: Stonehenge
Meaningless art: (user's pick)
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>>650826
well you're not wrong, but I actually do like art now.

as a beginner I hated art, but i figured out how to enjoy it. you'd have to be a masochist if you enjoy art the way ic teaches it (or really anyone else for that matter).

Understand that telling someone to work hard is telling someone that they need to brute force things until they work. This is a terrible strategy. In fact it's the opposite of what you should do, what you need is to figure out how to make good work without brute forcing anything. You need to figure out how to make work easy. In fact you should AVOID working hard (except in cases of nessesity) because it's a costly and inefficient way of doing things. Things are soulcrushing because you brute force everything, when the work is light, it's actually quite fun.
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>>650877
ngmi
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>>650877
i simply meant that if drawing anything and everything isn't fun for you by default then it probabl;y isn't a hobby one should be getting into
in essence i was proposing a sorta filter for the trend following newfags who will ultimately nott achieve much with their art
not every newfag is a doodlechad like us fren

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>>650900
Actually I agree with you! but some of those people who are "not suited to art", actually are perfectly suited to art, they're just not suited to the traditional "hard work" method. I actually was NGMI eternal stagnation until I started doing things this way.
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I liked Big Brain Academy more.
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oc thing also posted in the oc thread
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Poison swamp 2
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>>644581
awesome stuff
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>>642047
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If you see him you have 21 days to live
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>>642047
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skirt study but i messed up
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>>655510
cute~





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