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Why did so many Victorian paintings depict the boys naked and the girls clothed?
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At least post other paintings you fucking glow nigger.
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>>5123538
Funny how this is never asked when its naked women that are depicted
We live in a male-centric society, which is why you feel the need to ask about the origins of seeing a naked boy in a painting, because that's not the status quo in a male society, the status quo would be naked girl or woman.
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>>5123553
take a slap to the face, woman
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>>5123553
Yeah because Victorian England was famous for its emancipation of women right. Retard
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>>5123538
can some jannie come here to delete this schizo from the face of earth?
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>>5123591
based
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>>5123553
tru
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Who's the artist?
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>>5123553
It could also be that men are more interested in seeing naked women due to a biological factor, therefore it draws curiosity from them when instead, they're faced with naked men instead. At the end of the day, biology tops any ideological theoretics.
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>>5123682
why aren't women as attracted to men??? Life would be so much easier
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>>5123591
Kill yourself and then cut out your tongue
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>>5123717
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>>5123553
maybe women should step the fuck up. the scales have been tilted in their favor for 50+ years and they just spend their time bitching about incels and divorce raping betas.
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>>5123724
>https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1610332736608.webm
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>>5123679
Sorolla
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>>5123733
Why are the boys naked and girls clothed in every single painting of his?
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>>5123735
Id assume because girls are supposed to look modest? Im pretty sure they werent even allowed to wear bikinis back then. But then again i dont know and im pretty certain his paintings were from life anyways
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>>5123741
>girls can't even wear bikinis and need to be fully clothed in the presence of boys
>but boys must be completely naked in front of girls

That's bullshit and completely unfair
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>>5123591
kek
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>>5123591
Based
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>>5123538
This is sexist
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>>5123538
You can see how high the user turnover rate on this board is when every time this schizo posts this thread a new batch of newfags reply to it sincerily
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Bump
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>>5123553
>We live in a male-centric society, which is why you feel the need to ask about the origins of seeing a naked boy in a painting, because that's not
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>>5124386
Holy based
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>>5124386
KJG OFICCIALLY canselled!!!!
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Stop making this thread you asshole
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holy shit, on guy says a variation of 'that's what was normal at the time' and y'all reee yourselves into oblivion over women. Did parler close already or something?
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>>5123538
How do I draw water like this?
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>>5123553
>We live in a male-centric society

retard
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>>5123682
fucking coomer faggot i wanna kick your tooth out
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>>5124775

Study Sorolla and do a fuckton of plein air painting on the beach
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>>5123538
we had this exact thread before, I even recognize some of the replies
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Was Sorolla a nonce?
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>>5123692
They are. The "women are sexual mentally not physically thing" is BS
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bump
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>>5124846

Jannies are getting sloppy
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>>5123538
They were closet degenerates
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>>5123749
Retarded rules are like this.
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>>5125327
yeah but that is beyond retarded. Didn't they see how sexist that was towards boys?. "Oh, you don't want to be naked in front of all the girls you know? Tough shit get naked in front of them."
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>>5123538
Is she looking at his butt?
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>>5123538
Lewd
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>>5123538
maybe they were trying to make them less appealing so that the people wouldn't want to have pretend weddings to them
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>>5123538
Probably the same reason why boys being naked and showing butts, even the penis like in The Simpsons movie are common in cartoons but not with girls.
It's just how people view the differences between boys and girls in relation to the difference between male and female sexuality.
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>>5126320
>It's just how people view the differences between boys and girls in relation to the difference between male and female sexuality.

But why? Boys and girls have butts so why was only one considered private? Wouldn't boys be humiliated being naked in front of girls? Did they even have a choice back then?
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>>5123682
>women that are attracted to men dont exist
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>>5123692
They are, but most women enjoy literotica, they get off on the mental aspects of sex, the focus on the situation, rather than the body itself. That's why non-con is such a predominant fetish among women, where men have a focus on boobs, butt, two women doing it. Women still enjoy seeing naked men, but we have different priorities.
>>5124833
It's not about cooming. It's about biological facts. Also, checked.
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>>5126414
They do, see >>5126423
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>>5124919
Nope, it’s not BS, women have practically no sexual response to attractive mates in comparison. The “women are the same, but mental” anon above me is just cope/rationalization - read between the lines, if what turns women on is “the situation,” then they aren’t being physically turned on by the person they’re with. It’s why you see those charts comparing how men rate women (right-shifted bell curve) to how women rate men (“meh” until the dude is basically a 10/10). This is both good and bad for dudes - you don’t need to be hot to attract women, but it sure as shit makes it nigh impossible to stand out in any way at a glance. If you’re a 6-8/10, you can’t really bank on that being much better than being a 4/10. Terrible for a culture where people meet by glancing at a picture and “swiping.”

I’m not saying the female level of physical attraction is zero, but it’s like comparing Prang watercolours to Daniel Smith. If you haven’t FELT the difference, you’re only guessing at what you can observe from the outside, but blackpill spoiler: the difference is massive.
t. FtM
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>>5123538
Because they were all repressed homosexuals
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>>5127058
is this based from your judgement as a female?
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>>5127348
>implying there are females on 4chan
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>>5127494
The OP describes herself as "FtM"
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>>5127544
So he’s a female(male(female))?
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>>5127567
Female who larps as a male
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>>5123591
/thread
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>>5123538
So how did they deal with boys who didn't want to be naked in front of girls at the beach/sea?
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>>5127718
cut their penis
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>>5127317
He asked about the Victorian era, not about you
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>>5127774
go back to history class
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>>5123538
Because it was forbidden, today is the same, black glass mind.
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>>5127778
Not is history, is your pathetic life, asshole.
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>>5127799
Me no speak englino, you is retard, piss
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>>5123538
What's this piece called?
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>>5123538
hot
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Should we go back to this? (Boys naked and girls clothed)
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>>5123553
>Male centric society
>Women can literally not get a job or develop any skills but instead sell feets pics to survive and SOCIETY deems it 100% okay
Damn, bitch, you're like really really stupid. I bet you're an ugly Asian woman.
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>>5123538
Why isn't he embarrassed?
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Did this stuff really happen in victorian england?
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>>5123553
I know this is bait but fucking kill yourself

>>5127348
It's based in research. Go read Sex At Dawn or A Million Wicked Thoughts and be a faggot somewhere else.
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>>5131128
Cringe
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>>5123538
God, it is good to be gay. Don't have to deal with w*men or trannies.
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>>5123538
Did Sorolla paint real scenes or was this his fantasy?
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>>5123538
>>5123735
>>5123741


It was standard practice in Spain at the time, boys always swam naked, and women always swam in what they called swimming gowns.

Sorolla didn't make the boys naked because he liked them that way, he painted what he saw. If any of you ever have the chance to go to Valencia it is an incredible city, and his gallery there is great.
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>>5132376
>It was standard practice in Spain at the time, boys always swam naked, and women always swam in what they called swimming gowns.

But why tho? Why were boys always naked and in the presence of girls?
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>>5124775
you don't because you paint it
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>>5132419
Because back then people had a thing called decency. Nowadays the world is filled with perverts, sexual deviants and extremists.
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>>5123538
Spamming faggot.

>>5123553
Dumb fucking tourist.
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>>5132954
>Because back then people had a thing called decency

Then why were the boys naked?
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>>5132419
>>5133014
women arent as outwardly as perverted as men, so the men being naked doesnt effect them as much as the inverse (they wanted to swim naked in the first place because thats more comfortable).
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>>5133073
What about privacy reasons? What if boys didn't want to swim naked in front of girls but in their clothes or something?
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>>5133159
well, im sure they could just swim in their underwear or something anyway, but what youre missing is this: at that place and at that time, there was no stigmatization or sexualization for a boy/man to be naked around others while swimming, its essentially like saying now "what if the boy is uncomfortable showing off his chest, what if he didnt want to take his shirt off at the pool?" He could simply swim in his shirt, but that would be considered too self conscious.
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>>5132954
They merely had the veneer of decency. If you think sexual deviants, pedos and the like didn't exist back then, you're deluded.
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>>5123591
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I remember reading a scan of a journal entry someone wrote back in the early 1800s on googlesites and they said they seen a boy refuse to take his underwear off in front of girls at the beach and his mom made him
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>>5123591
based
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>>5132923
How do I paint water like this?
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>>5130219
Yes. Beaches often had separate swimming sections for men and women or separate times set aside. Men resisted being forced to start wearing swim clothes. I’ve read some pretty funny old newspaper articles from the time period where Victorian fathers fumed and huffed and puffed about all the naked men in the ocean and how their daughters kept conveniently arranging strolls and lunches near the beach so they could ogle the naked men.





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