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man i wish western stylized art was still this good
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All this shit looks the same
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awesome
>>5319201
very cool
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pathetic
>>5319214
very cool
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just okay
>>5319248
very cool
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best in the thread
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>>5319306
no it doesnt
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Here's one by Barry Windsor Smith
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Weebshit is worse
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most art is derivative
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What the fuck, i don’t know any of these characters.

I thought it was going to be like jonny and hadji, scooby and shaggy, beavis and butthead, bugs and daffy, Tom and Jerry, ren and stimpy, pinky and the brain, rocky and bullwinkle, snoopy and woodchuck, yogi and booboo, chip and dale... you know... the canonical cartoon dynamic duos...
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>>5319431
You are getting old lmao faggot
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>>5319431
>woodchuck
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>>5319404
YIKES
Today I will remind thee
https://youtu.be/PA0KTFdnBk8
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it’s the kitschy cute stuff for me
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>>5319431
We’re getting old friend
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>>5319200
"Western" is not a drawing style or genre, you absolute retard.
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>>5319573
yet people knew exactly what to post
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>>5319306
Just like female anime faces! AHHHHHH BURRRRRRN
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as much i hate most of those shows, did you really expect a channel to rerun the classic shows forever?
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This dude is what solidified my love and respect for european comics after Moebius.
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Its all so busy looking
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>muh minimalism
Cramming in detail is only a problem when it makes the image hard to read, but these all read really well; I'm not even the guy posting them, and I like minimalism too, but you gotta appreciate how grand these are
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Not wanting busy shit =/= wanting minimalism
There's a happy in between.
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How the hell was this a weekly series?
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do slavs count as western or eastern?
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kino and saved
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Does this count as western even if it is for a japanese production? It's my personal favorite Gundam design and it's made by the same dude
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Most definitely.
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Glen Orbik
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>>5319653
peanuts is pure, unfiltered kino
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>>5319442
This looks familiar, Is this a Jehovah's Witness pamphlet?
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>>5319590
Because ic is full of absolute retards.
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>>5320258
>Cramming in detail is only a problem when it makes the image hard to read
Nah, that's not the only case where cramming in detail is a problem. These, even if easy to read, all have this kitsch vibe, because everything is so full of details.
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>>5320799
Yes lol. I love their art
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I wish we had a western study general. I like seeing this stuff about thw west that i usually never see because it's either bean mouth cartoons or capeshit. I like these styles and would like to replicate it and make it my own.
Problem is that if a western study general was made it would possibly die really quick.
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>>5320850
why don't you make a thread and see? it's worth a try
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>>5320262
talk about sameface
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>>5320850
just look up western pulp art. My favorites are german and italian pulp art but french and american comes pretty close.
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>western art
>everything posted is at least 40 years old

Dead culture
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>>5321166
what the fuck is up with those nipples
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>>5321166
I think we should revive it. Isn't art about stealing and remixing stuff into something completely new? Also don't get me wrong as much as i love anime since it has some very unique styles it's very commonplace. Almost everyone wants to draw anime so sometimes you end up with elements you've seen over and over again. Digging into old art, stealing and remixing different elements with styles you like could make for an unique, interesting style.

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>>5321138
Maybe we could combine it with the western art thread so it will live longer. Mix other's studies and post western art?
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>>5320817
another anon here, I do not agree
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>>5320873
Only had one model available, probably his wife too as it was common back then.
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>>5321166
Kek true
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>>5320873
Looks intentional desu. The story probably involves clones or something.
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>>5322148
Only one way to find out!
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Ah shit, I was missing out on this thread and forgot in what page did I left this books
>>5321166
I will posy new stuff but /ic/ will hate it no matter what
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More Toppi
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Wrong
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>Toppi
Fucking Italians, why are they so good.
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>>5321166
where did it all begin?
with kids getting addicted to Pokémon in the 90s and then later more teenager oriented stuff like Evangelion in the early 2000s?
the industry ditching 2d to make almost exclusively 3d animations?
comicbooks in the west being a pain in the ass to get into with their never changing status quo of superhero stories and stale ideas in the 90s?
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cool thread. I'll share some from my collection
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It started with Akira VHS tapes in the 80s
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>western artists underestimating anime and trying to imitate it superficially, or trying to "reinvent"
>disgusting cartoons from the early 90s somehow becoming the norm for "creative" character design until the rise of bean mouth
>Disney (2D movies) aesthetic becoming the cope style of failed early 2000s weebs
>rise of digital concept art and le wacky Blizzard/Dreamworks/Pixar proportions
>"ugly is beautiful" degenerate social justice shit
>insecure westerners shilling any aesthetic imaginable in order to face anime without going back to the old "white patriarchal" aesthetic
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>>5320295
I love him. One of those painters who makes me think "how the fuck did he do that".
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>>5323208
who did this piece? Love the atmosphere.
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>>5323192
The period from 1954-1964 was probably the most critical time for Western graphic art at large, since the pulps became superhero books and Walt Disney didn't have a clear heir.

The Famous Artists course lasted from 1948 - 2016... the whole three-year instruction program would cost around $3,000 today -- a very competitive price when compared with art school. It's strange that they couldn't even adapt to using the internet, but maybe most people didn't have the tech in the 2010's?
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>>5325436
Many commercial illustrators died without teaching anyone. In animation, Walt Stanchfied managed to teach numerous animators, such as Brad Bird, John Lasseter, Don Bluth, Joe Ranft, John Musker, Ron Clements, Glen Keane, Andreas Deja, and Mark Henn. 1970's and 80's animation was far more surreal and dark than what had come before, probably being partly influenced by the Postmodernists. There probably wouldn't have been a Disney revival without Stanchfield. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkLZfu_Y92g
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>>5319431
> Why is a throwaway Cartoon Network ad using characters from their current lineup and not these characters they have no reason to shill which includes ones they don't have the rights to the likenesses

Chill out, grandpa. Also

> snoopy and woodchuck

Lol
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>>5323192
>comicbooks in the west being a pain in the ass to get into with their never changing status quo of superhero stories and stale ideas in the 90s?

For me it's this.
I never gave a shit about the comic books or the western animation because It was all sterile sanitized and horrifically formulaic. If you seen one superhero you've seen them all.

It's the corporate franchise handling that turned the characters into a brand like coca cola.

Of course Batman isn't going to get anything done he's been fighting for 60 years already and they intend for him to fight forever. To end the story would be to slaughter the golden goose. and it's all so pointless and shallow.

The avengers had my attention for a moment because they actually dared to make the heroes lose and somebody even died. I could not believe it, is this an actual fucking story happening right there? a real writing? Then Endgame is like SIKE NOBODY DIED EVERYTHINGS FINE

Yeah it was the first and the last time I consciously engaged with the western media. Almost tricked me.
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>>5321166
>dead culture
>uses anime image that represents 90% of Asian art: same face, proportions, line work, composition, color; only minor adjustments

old western art is still unchallenged
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>>5325477
Honestly, I think japanese pulp art is on par with western pulp art
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>>5325470
>The avengers had my attention for a moment because they actually dared to make the heroes lose and somebody even died. I could not believe it, is this an actual fucking story happening right there? a real writing? Then Endgame is like SIKE NOBODY DIED EVERYTHINGS FINE
it's called an arc, they'll reset everything with new actors and say it's a alternative timeline like the X-men movies done
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>>5325604
that’s part of the reason why western comics are so bad though. As long as they’re profitable, they aren’t allowed to end. The east doesn’t really have that problem aside from boruto and dragon ball.
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>>5325610
of course the east has that problem, most manga are designed to go on as long as possible until the readers start dwindling and it gets axed
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>>5325604
>it's called an arc,
It's called a fucking reset and the resets are the single cheapest shit a writer could possibly pull.

An Arc would be the Avengers getting their ass kicked for once and then dealing with the fallout, dealing with consequences, fixing what's left of the world after Thanos actually won and fucked off and Tony Stark having to explain what happened to Mary Jane at the symbolic funeral they hold for the Peter Parker's empty coffin. THAT is an arc.

That's the least you should expect from any normal storyteller.
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>>5325619
The TOP selling manga Kimetsu No Yaiba ended after 4 years of run. At it's peak it outsold One Piss and everything ever. The anime and merch were shoveling money but the author had the balls to actually conclude the story rather than turn it into an endless aimless meaningless abomination.

Mob psycho was hugely popular and also ended well, it's actually the norm rather than exception. There's a lot of actual real stories being told.

Resets, timelines and maintaining the status quo is the kind of corporate bullshit that completely devalues the story and it's the reason the capeshit comics are fucking worthless and dead.

Who wants to read the story if you know exactly what's going to happen just from looking at the cover? Yeah yeah the good guys win the bad guys escape to be back next week and if anybody died they will be back just fine.
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>>5325647
Oh yeah and I heard the titans just ended too.
It was a massive franchise and it just ended, there are no resets, no timelines and the dead people don't come back.

The author is going to write something else rather than turn it into a franchise that spans 100 years and 300 different writers with no general direction or core story.
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>>5319201
I love this.
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>>5325610
>what is saint seyia
Neverending franchise nip shit comes mostly in form of games at least, also a lot of kiddie media for some reason (sazae san being published for 70 years)
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>>5323342
Shit taste is shit taste you retarded weeb.
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>>5325477
unchallenged 100 years ago that is, for the people thats pioneering most of mankind's advancement you guys sure are dated on your art
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Can always count on the good ol'ads.
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And TPB covers.
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To find good art.
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>>5319442
Before libs ruined America
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>>5332208
before americans ruined america
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>>5320295
To be able to capture the vagueness of perception so clearly, what great skill.
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>>5332208
lmao have fun driving 30 minutes to get to the nearest grocery store you stupid fuck
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>>5319648
hell yeah loves me some Sergio Aragones! I feel like there's no one else quite like him. The worlds feel so alive just from the sheer number of figures on a single page.
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>>5337670
Michelangelo

>>5337672
Raphael

Did I guess right?
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>>5323326
Looks like fanart for chainsawman
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the gif of the cal art heads would have been a better example
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Let me save this thread with one of the GOATS
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Also for those who are interested or dont know yet here is a comfy channel about old time ilustrators

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTD0csU14Qs
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>>5321166
well yes, the west manages to shit on arts and crafts since the 90s nobody is doing it anymore. Can't put bread on table with today's market conditions. However there are artists like Enki Bilal that haven't stopped producing excellent works, but he's mostly famous in France since they love comic book culture.
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French and Italian Comics are pretty good. They are kinda underrated but it's understandable since they don't bother translating them to English.
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this is the only italian comic i ever had to read
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