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I've been grinding the figure stage for days
When does it get fun?
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back to /beg/ you go
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I keep getting game overs bros...
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>can't bring myself to even finish the tutorial
Guess this game isn't for me then.
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>>5322545
Even went to art school. Too lazy
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>>5322547
>implying I can even draw a stick figure
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>start tutorial
>don't master it within an hour
>feel discouraged and stop

Why does this always happen?
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>>5322551
You lack patience, a key component to mastering anything
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>>5322552
Practicing only works if you already have talent.
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no but seriously, how do you git gud at drawing?
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I learned to draw but I didn't learn how to make video games. Feels like I wasted my time.
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>>5322553
No
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>>5322554
Just keep doing it and watch others. Watching people animate on a live stream or watching something as simple as people playing drawful can really help at a low level. You want to train your brain how to see the lines in everything and then how to translate those lines to the page tracing can help cause you’ll get an idea of how a structure or figure comes together. It’s hard don’t expect to be good don’t expect to be the next big thing just have fun it’s normal to hate your work there will be few things your proud of.
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>>5322547
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlCRfTmBSGs
keep at it anon, no one can draw Rome in the first day of drawing, practice!
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>"humans are meant to create, not just consume!"
>try multiple different creative arts
>suck at all of them and don't enjoy any
I'll stick to consuming, thank you.
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>>5322559
that's ok
someone has to consoom in the end
you know, keep the cash flowing
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>>5322553
this is shitter cope of the highest order
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>>5322559
It won't work if you're just forcing yourself. You have to have fun with it.
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>>5322562
>Force yourself to have fun
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My dad is good at drawing, I want to try it out too, is that book in the OP good?
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>>5322545
Get Betty Edward's book. It is better and comes with video course too.
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>>5322564
the book should really be called "the fundamentals of drawing" and yes, it is a good book to start with as a intro to drawing, and learning the idea of drawing.
Another book that's good is "Perspective Made Easy" for understanding how to make perspective drawings like landscapes, cities, bedrooms, and 3d objects in a 2d space.
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>>5322545
It doesn’t.
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>>5322545
what books do chinks use to learn how to draw anime girls.
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>>5322566
cheers lad
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>>5322569
You can also look up other loomis books as well, you should also never try to draw cartoons or "anime" you don't draw circles, you draw spheres, you don't draw a square you draw a box, etc
and remember...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlCRfTmBSGs
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>>5322570
thanks again, also I hope to get a such a hat when I'm good
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>>5322545
I specced into crafting and now I just build cool shit.
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>Put all my points into 3D
>Now my 2D looks horrible in comparison so I'm stuck doing 3D
AAAAAAAAAAAA
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>draw I-NO porn for fun
>it's not extremely graphic or anything but you can tell it's lewd in nature
>send my dad drawings over email sometimes
>accidentally send it in with the others
>asks me if i could go get that drawing specifically framed so he could sell it in his restaurant for $$
>feel weird about it before i realize i have no shame and will gladly do it for a fat load of money

I love art.
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>>5322574
You dad is a man of taste. I hope his restaurant survives the coof.
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>>5322572
I kind of want to get into woodworking but I don't know what I'd do with any of it after
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>>5322553
>talent
a decent sub-stat, but the discipline is much better value
if you didn't roll both of them
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>>5322574
post it
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>>5322574
Based dad.

I'm sure he just wants the picture framed for himself.
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>>5322574
What does I-NO mean?
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>>5322575
It already did. Most of the other restaurants in the area died, so the remaining ones get a lot more traffic; this includes his place.
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>>5322578
Here it is
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>>5322582
NICE PROPORTIONS FUCKBOY
I BET YOU NEVER GAVE SOMEONE A HUG BEFORE
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>>5322582
hey thats pretty good
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>>5322576
I'm making a pirate chest arcade machine, the only thing I'm dealing with right now is a aesthetic way to keep it in open position. The wood I bought for it looks nice though.
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>just want to draw cute girls
>books want me to draw 40s caricatures,make a viewfinder and use some abstruse arcane shenanigan to learn perspective

just give me the fundies bro
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>>5322574
>h-hey son, can I get that one with the big hat. For the business of course, haha
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>>5322583
Arms are a little short, aside from that he's doing good
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>>5322545
I actually gave that to my cousin who wanted to learn how to better draw animu
And hot damn, he said it actually fuckin' worked for him
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>>5322582
Here is a tip. When trying to figure out arm length, try to imagine how long it would need to be to reach halfway through the thigh. Also, the size of the head being a little smaller works better for older characters.
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>have idea for comic
>have entire story and characters thought out
>have entire compositions ready in my head
>can barely draw a stickman
Should I just give up?
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>>5322545
What do you care? You weren't having fun with video games. You might as well not have fun doing something that you will eventually be proud of.
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Here's a quote for every aspiring artist.
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>>5322589
Jap artists took a lot from old American cartoons and Disney movies. Rubberhose era cartoons had strong emphasis on round shapes and curves which made them look bouncy, dynamic and fun to draw.
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>>5322582
This actually got sold in a restaurant?
>I'll have the medium rare, and the BDSM little red robin hood with semen and blood on her face and crotch, thanks.
>No problem see you and the kids back here next week Bob

I'm having a really hard time imagining what kind of restaurant this is lol
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It doesn't.
You just slowly become kind of satisfied with what comes out.
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Drawing fucks you up because there's such a large discrepancy between what you intend to draw and what comes out, and this continues for years until you get decent at it. Personally I couldn't figure out how to relax and have fun with it, so I kinda gave up. However I picked up 3d and it seems I can do that daily with a lot less discomfort. Who knows, maybe it'll one day loop back into doing 2d if I get good at sculpting.
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>>5322591
Nope, never give up. Start as small as you can then work your way up from there. At first it will be a struggle to get even one page done but as you draw more and more it will flow easier. Good luck, anon. I believe in you.
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>>5322593
>normal words but horse guy
cringe
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>>5322589
Pull a Bakuman and team up with an artist friend
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>>5322547
I'm confident enough to buy a tablet for drawing until I feel satisfied with my paper sketches.
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>>5322591
If ONE could make successful comics with no art skills so can you.
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>>5322597
Even if you plan on sticking to 3D it's still important to learn 2D. It's because to git gud at 2D you need to teach your brain to visualize your drawings as 3D objects so you can draw them in different angles. This helps a lot if you are a 3D artist since you are basically sculpting the same mental picture. It also helps with learning how to design characters that can work in 3D in the first place.
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>>5322600

I replied to the wrong post...
>>5322591
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is 30-60 minutes of drawing every other day too little to actually build some skill?
I've been doing it for about 4 months now. I suppose I've gotten at least better compared to day 1, but it feels like I've stagnated
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>>5322600
>>5322604
I don’t have any artist friends though
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>>5322596
>draw something
>think it looks good
>see the same image 3 weeks later
>it looks like shit and you wonder if you can redo it better
>repeat
I have been drawing this same OC for 10 years.
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>>5322607
Does it look a little better after you repeat?
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>>5322595
I kept asking him why the fuck anyone would want to see this in the restaurant, but then he just told me people are horny and that he could hawk it easy. He's been doing this for about a decade, so I'm inclined to believe him.

It's also a French restaurant and 80% of the people that come here are old. Some parents come sometimes with their children, but they can go fuck themselves.

>>5322583
>>5322590
>>5322588
Thanks for the advice, I'll make sure to alter it before I get it printed out and shit.
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>>5322591
then just draw stickmen until, you won't get better by just not drawing, start drawing! I draw stick figures when I draw crappy porn for fun https://i.imgur.com/y00HV2D.png
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>>5322603
For sure, but if I could've done 2D easily I would've stuck with it all these years instead of repeatedly making an effort for a few months and then giving up on it again and again. I don't enjoy the practice very much and I can't draw anything out of enjoyment as it looks very bad to me. If 3D can help me get past this mental block I'll stick with it to the end.
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>>5322607
Does that work or do you end up like that one spammed image of the deviantart guy drawing a scifi katana warrior
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>>5322600
>had an artist friend
>my drawing is shit but he can "understand" what my ideas supposed to be
>often compliment me that my ideas for stories are "insane" and I can always come up with them in an instant
>we actually planned to make another project
>it suddenly just stopped and we lost contact
Shame. Seems like we can make decent bucks considering the climate of webcomics these days
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>>5322607
Flip your canvas, bro.
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>>5322599
the normal words are correct
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>>5322612
Who?
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>>5322608
Most of the time. I get to tweak small details that I don't like and try out new tricks I picked up over time. Recently I am learning how to use textures in my art and it's been showing some good results. I am also relying less on thick lines and saving them for outlines.
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>>5322545
You don't learn by just repeating the same things over and over, you have to look at your mistakes, you have to study real life figures, you have to learn to see what you're doing wrong. You have to push yourself, get actual advice and critique.
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>>5322605
No, building the habit of doing it is better than potentially slipping and getting rusty.
However, you should always be looking for new poses or subjects to draw; focusing solely on landscapes, people, or still lifes will only do so much to improve your ability.
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>>5322616
You know the one, the before-and-after deviantart pic thats always posted in context of soul vs. soulless

i cant actually fucking find the damn thing on google atm
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>>5322617
That's good then, what matters is you feel like you're learning and can apply something new you learned every time.
Care to post some drawings?
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>>5322582
Amazing drawing and amazing art, you post your works anywhere?
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>>5322612
I mean, it's not the only thing I draw, just something I enjoy redoing from time to time. If I had to give advice I would say that what gave me a huge boost was drawing different things and leaving my comfort zone. Last year I started doing requests for friends and in some drawthreads and that pushed me into drawing characters, clothing and objects I would otherwise never consider. Stuff like this transfers from one drawing to the other.
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>>5322570
>You should never try to draw cartoons or anime.

I'm literally going through fundamentals in order to do so. There is nothing wrong with pastiche and if I want to draw like several artists, there's nothing wrong with applying the same principals one uses when doing studies on photos and such to them.
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>>5322554
It's a skill and a philosophy, kind of like martial arts. It takes years of mindful practice to understand.
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Loomis is a beginner’s trap. Fun With A Pencil is already skipping some beginner lessons, and since it looks so simple people even skip that and go to figure drawing. Of course they’re doomed to fail. You’re going to fail to bruteforce yourself to think/feel in 3D and holding/controlling lines all while having zero muscle memory by drawing pages of old men hoping for something to click in your head.
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>>5322620
I don't actually, that's why I'm curious
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>>5322625
> and a philosophy, kind of like martial arts.
no it's not you self-aggrandizing faggot lol. It's a cool craft but there's nothing philosophical about it.
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>>5322626
what would you recommend for a beginner?
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>>5322626
This. It's solid advice but the way people present it, it makes people think 'Oh why can't I draw well? I've been going through these books over and over again! Fuck it, I can't draw."
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>grind technical ability day after day, artwork becomes more solid and polished
>only creative output is androgynous guys being molested by gorilla-like fat bastards
I would probably be happier if I learned electrical engineering or something.
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>>5322614
I have already quadrupled the size of the canvas on my art program. Makes the linework look so much smoother.
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>>5322626
I'm certain this is the case, if you're more oriented towards logical thinking you'll want to find out how to improve your drawing skill in an efficient manner, and fail to figure out how to actually enjoy the process and fail to build long-term motivation. I think the first step would be just to draw whatever daily for months on end if you're prone to have rigid thinking. I mean look at this guy >>5322610, he probably had fun drawing this, how reprehensible

Oh and stay the hell away from /ic/ until you've got solid ground under you, that place is a crab bucket
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>>5322554
You have to have fun with it, i don't mean the rigorous studying part either. You gotta have fun drawing things you like when not learning something, specifically subjects you enjoy while occasionally going out of your comfort zone to experiment/fuck around. If you can do that, you'll make it.
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>>5322631
>>only creative output is androgynous guys being molested by gorilla-like fat bastards
c-can you show some of them? haha
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>>5322631
You would have just bemoaned your ruined body and wished you learned art instead in that reality.
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>>5322631
Why don't you do commissions, or do a comic with a writer that is creative?
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>>5322627
ugh you made me waste five minutes of time that i wouldnt have had a productive alternative anyway just for you
i hope you're happy
what a pain in the ass
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>>5322577
What if I only rolled some points in [Talent] and none in [Patience]. I already got a lot out of the first one but to keep advancing in the class quest I need a shitload of points on the second one. And you need [Patience] to train anything, including [Patience]. Those pills you get from the [trait:anxiety] subquests better make up for it else I'm fucked up.
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Just got to keep at it. Try new approaches if you feel like you're not getting it right. Pic related is part of my efforts to understand proportion.
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>Dexterity is fucked for anything that isnt fine machinery or shooting, can actualy do amatuer digital painting passable.
>Barely any time between work and school, carve out time in 30 minute chunks.
We are all going to make it, bros.
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>>5322640
>grab some photos for reference
>get spaghetti looking at people's face
I guess I'll just use action figures
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>>5322624
what I meant was you don't draw flat lines and circles, you draw real spheres and boxes, that inhabit real space, most anime now a days ignore that and just copy each other, leading to bad mistakes, like the famous yaoi "hands" where they don't know the proper proportions of human hands.
of course we all make mistakes like that when we start out drawing the main thing is that we learn from those mistakes and grow as a artist!
>>5322633
it was fun to draw, just like how drawing this was really fun too! I will never understand why/how people can draw porn for money when you could just draw it for fun
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>>5322639
just grind, bro
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>>5322621
>Care to post some drawings?
Here is a recent one. I am currently figuring out how to draw in the Touhou artstyle because I like the games and I am fascinated by how the creator designs the characters.

Pic related is my own tackle on two South American folkloric creatures. I still got a lot to learn but the colors and textures make this style really fun to experiment with.
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>>5322638
The left looks like a gen 1 Yugioh card with 1350 atk.
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>>5322565
I tried this but there's too much text
I want to learn how to draw, not to read last century psychology
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>>5322545
you're not supposed to grind just one source retard
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>>5322562
How do I not force myself if the reason I'm trying creative stuff isn't because I want to but because I'm being told to?
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>>5322545
I got filtered on the part where you install drivers for your tablet pen
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>>5322643
>it was fun to draw, just like how drawing this was really fun too!

Can't believe the audacity of this guy
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>>5322622
Not yet but I should start a pixiv account or something soon
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>>5322652
This looks cool, keep at it anon.
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>>5322602
>Casually obtain 6 years of art skill to not even look that much better
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>>5322645
Not that anon, but you capture the Touhou style very well
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>>5322545
Loomis, like many things on 4chan, is a shit meme. The main principles he teaches is just
1, break everything down to basic geometric shapes
2, draw it over and over until it looks good


This is absolutely basic shit and common sense. His actual construction is garbage. Best way to learn how to draw something... Is to fucking look at it and draw it. You want to draw humans, look up videos on youtube of people doing poses for artists. Wanna draw a horse, look at horses. And really look. Understand how they work, their musculature, anatomy, how things bend and move, light and shadow.

90% of art is observation. This 'draw from nothing' garbage is not only intensely frustrating for a beginner but pointless most of the time since you'll use reference for the vast, vast majority of your work. I've never met a single artist who didn't.
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>>5322654
That's the point, ONE can't draw well but is still wildly successful.
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>>5322646
kek even down to the fucking number
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>>5322565
psuedoscience fags begone. Here's the superior how to draw book
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>>5322634
This post should have more (you)'s.
The only way to cope with the constant failure of mastering art (and anything, really) is to make sure you have fun doing it, so you'll WANT to practice, instead of forcing you to do it.

This is key.
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>>5322637
I don't think my style would be appealing for comissions, it's too clinical.
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>>5322655
Thanks. I still need to figure out how to get that softness about ZUN's style right (also fuck drawing frills). Here is another one, she is based on Amazonian native tribes.
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But are there good books for learning how to draw from the ground up on a display tablet? I feel like drawing digitally is different enough fundamentally that you're essentially doubling your workload by trying to learn both
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>randomly given a permanent debuff at character creation.
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>>5322640
You got the right idea with the divisions, but try not to be so scratchy. It's a bad habit to make up for not being confident with lines and makes you ignore line thickness/weight, which is a huge part of line art.
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>>5322660
I want to do it but the tablet I bought recently fucking broke when I tried to install the pen drivers so that I could actually draw on the tablet's screen instead of the monitor's.
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Step aside kids.
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>>5322664
Least you didn't roll into the african server
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>>5322651
what can I say, you draw what you want to draw, you tend to enjoy it a lot more then forcing yourself to draw something else.
Here is one more for you, in my "normal" style, but still a crappy doodle
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>>5322551
Play in burst of 25 minutes with 5 minute breaks, 4 times in a row
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>>5322660
>>5322634
>>5322562
What the hell? I thought getting gud at drawing was like exercising or practicing a fightan game in the lab
the fun comes *after* you do the gruntwork

how the hell do you have fun with the vomit on your page at the beginning?
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>>5322666
No but seriously this is an actual issue I have here, the pen was working fine I just couldnt get it to actually interact with the tablet's screen, I need some help with this. I have unironically never set a tablet up before.
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>>5322659
BASED. I'm no artist but this one really did help me escape stick figure hell in high school.
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Post a recent work you feel is atleast bearable to show, or even proud of anons. I like seeing the extent of difference in styles
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>>5322657
only ignorant beginners think ONE couldn't draw when he started
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>>5322663
It's not. The only difference between using a tablet and using a pencil is line weight. And any good tablet simulates that anyway. The motions, concepts and everything else is exactly the same.
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>Watch gameplay breakdown
>Everything starts making sense
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>>5322674
I refuse to identify myself on a site plagued with some of the worst autists on the internet.
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>>5322671
I cannot draw, but I guess make it fun vomit, vomit you like, vomit that amuses you somewhat
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>>5322672
Head over to >>>/ic/ or >>>/g/ for drawing peripheral tech support. Remember to list your OS, tablet model and other relevant information.
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>>5322675
He can panel, but he can't draw well.
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>>5322665
I was taught this technique for figuring out proprotion and constructiion by someone who does very good work with excellent line work. This is just me learning proportion, it's not reflective of line work. I'd show off some of their finished stuff but they'd rather keep private.
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>>5322591
Could just write it up as a novel, or start grinding drawing skills
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>>5322677
>study about the different eras of animation
>realize that most artists are huge degenerates who snuck their fetishes into cartoons
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There are like 4 recommended books in this thread, which ones are actually worth sticking through?
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>>5322667
Knew a kid in HS that was legit going to be the world's best mangaka cos of these books.
His anime book was going to be about a gamer kid that likes mountain dew that's a ninja and the girl he likes gets kidnapped and he saves her and they make out.
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>>5322671
Different for everyone. Depends on what you want to draw. For a lot of coomers, it's drawing tits and ass.
But more in general, just trying to have fun with it. Try doing 8bit art, messing around with different shading and coloring techniques, backgrounds, perspective, draw chibi, draw yourself.
Just keep it fresh and try and think of something interesting, that tends to work. I mean, some people do just grind it out and force themselves to it, but twice as many drop out because they miss one day, one day turns to two, and before you know it, you've missed a month and now it's even less motivating to get back on track.
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>>5322554
Read the sticky
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>>5322684
I still can't process OG Wonder Woman and submissive bondage
I still think its just apocrypha
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>>5322686
Was she hot?
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>>5322677
source?
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>>5322686
are you sure that kid wasnt you
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>>5322686
link to his blog?
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>>5322674
Shit lines/anatomy is really weak, but I really like how sleek her hair/face turned out.
day #216516 of having no idea how to shade
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>>5322678
If you're posting your work in Twitter it's not better.
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>>5322686
Was this the girl?
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>>5322691
It's an edit of vilppu
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>>5322687
i wish i could have fun with other shit that takes time and effort to master...
shit would be so much easier
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>>5322694
Not too bad, her sihlouette is decent. Just be patient with yourself and you will get there.
Also yeah, shading is a bitch.
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>>5322674
Did this awhile ago but I love romantic things, I have been fucking with blender, I really should get back to drawing in 2d...
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>>5322698
That is really the secret to mastering anything.
With art, a lot of people will get inspiration sometimes and want to draw something, and be really motivated for a while.

It's finding a way to tap into that constantly.
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>Haven't gotten past the circle tutorial
I'm too afraid to actually try anything else till i get perfect cirlces
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>game starts out with a boss fight
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>>5322694
How long did this take to draw? I feel like I keep rushing things.
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>>5322700
Based vanillachad. Very cute bug.
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>>5322545
I've been drawing since 2015, most of the time there is no fun in it and it's pretty much always a boring, frustrating chore. You do improve with practice, but it never adds up enough to where it actually matters. In terms of fun, video games will always kick the shit out of drawing crappy scribbles for hours a day.
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>>5322703
What you posted is more like finding the quickstart guide to Dwarf Fortress
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>>5322703
This is the kind of stuff I don't feel like doing.
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>>5322671
>how the hell do you have fun with the vomit on your page at the beginning?
This "beginning" is something you never leave. You can draw for years and still feel like a beginner because of the endless amount of crap you can still learn. What changes over time is becoming more confident about your art (read: good feedback, compliments) and learning how to draw more shit so you won't get stuck drawing a hand or a hat for half a hour. Learning how to use references and break them into basic shapes is also super useful.
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>>5322707
I am a total beginner and I feel like trying this today for lolz, wish me luck bros
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>>5322703
I still feel like this was completely pointless.
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Does /ic/ actually know anything about drawing?
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>>5322703
Man I'd say I'm somewhere around low intermediate and I can't copy stuff for shit. This pic filtered me out of that one book that tells me to copy it.
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>>5322708
it's to teach you how to draw from life not from imagination by dissociating lines and angles from what they supposed represent.
If you can;t do this then you wont be able to study poses and objects and you'll never make it
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>>5322696
Yes actually. Pink hair and big boobs and she liked nintendo DS though.
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>>5322553
I'm going to break your kneecaps without an ounce of talent
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>>5322547
dont bother with books, youtube is more dinamic now and use pose trainers to draw just dont follow their intructions 1:1 use them as an advice, its not something you can "learn" but something that clicks on you
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>>5322545
>grinding
this was your first mistake
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>>5322702
Loomis himself says in the book he can't even draw a perfect circle, or even a strait line, that is why man invented the compass and the ruler to make their lives easier
>>5322705
I wish a lot more drawfags would draw romantic and cute things more often...
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>>5322712
Every single board on 4chan knows absolutely zero about the topic of the board, yet is at a genius level for everything else.
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>>5322702
Just draw a circle, bro
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Kinda crazy that this thead is here, I bought a drawing tablet only yesterday to start drawing again for the first time in years.
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>>5322710
gl hf
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>>5322701
Do you know how to tap into the hidden fun of a gym routine

im honestly confused, i really thought with creative arts or practicing fundamentals of a sport, you just had to blast through the drudgery or boredom as much as you can.
you know like the beatles bashing their heads in for 10,000 hours in random dives in west germany before they got big

Or am i mistaking 'passion' for a craft for the fun of the craft? And its not just, i dont know, the drive to get somewhere with that art?

What do you say to a kid dabbling in this and that artform and they just arent having fun with it?
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>>5322704
Total? Probably like, 4-6 hours?
But I'm slow as fuck. At least I think I am.
Just wait until you start trying to do backgrounds and end up completely off like this.
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art is unconscious improvement
you cant just repeat and action over and over and hope to gain skill
even worse skill is hardly of any merit without some semblance of aesthetic philosophy
it may sound like pompous bullshit but there really is no purpose in a human photocopier (memesis as reduplication vs doxa )
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>>5322717
>youtube
what videos?
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>>5322712
Just like with this board and probably the rest, it's full of Dunning Krugers but it's still worth checking for the decent threads. Nowadays I only go on warosu to look at resources though.
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>>5322704
Anon, when drawing, leave the speedrunning autism for agdq and video games. Who the fuck is in your room judging you because a good looking piece of art took a cumulative total of 14 hours to draw instead of 14 minutes? You don't need to complete things in a single fucking session.
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>>5322712
sure
But he sticky is the best way to lern how to get good.
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>>5322691
Vilppu /ic/ meme
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>>5322686
I remember I made a manga in high school, it was gonna be about a ninja who was possessed by a spirit that allowed him to take apart his body and transform his gibs into weapons and he would fight other demon possessed people who were doing evil stuff. he had a friend who was a black ninja with a massive afro. never got far with that, just the first chapter. I use to love drawing when I was a kid, I dont know what made me stop, I wish I had that passion to draw again.
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>>5322727
proko
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>>5322671
>I thought getting gud at drawing was like practicing a fightan game in the lab
It is for me at least. I enjoy trying out new combos, experimenting, and trying to problem-solve against setups and shit. Enjoying the process of getting better just as much as the end result in anything really is a strong advantage.
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>>5322708
>>5322713

This anon >>5322714 has it kind of right. Picasso exercise isn't designed to be copied exactly line for line angle for angle. The idea is to get it close enough and to force you to look at subjects objectively without any preconceived notion of the subject. So you're not looking at a drawing of a man by picasso, you're looking at a series of lines that form shapes that just so happen to resemble a drawing by picasso
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>>5322590
>>5322582
This is generally just good advice, the body is super proportionate to itself so you can use hundreds of body parts to figure out the right size
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>>5322712
The sticky is a very valuable resource, but don't bother with the board or you'll probably end up spending more time browsing ebin menes than practicing.
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>>5322703
rate me
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I just want to draw dragons and other cool/lewd stuff, why does art have to be so hard
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>>5322740
ɟɟnʇs pooƃ
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>>5322554
By failing over and over again and keep going back to learn more.
>>5322677
You know I’ve been making lots of progress in my art recently. There’s some great videos in that pack on >>>/ic/. I haven’t gotten to Villpu yet but I’m getting an amazing grasp on form and perspective. These two seemed impossible to comprehend. I just think the technical aspects of perspective confused the hell out of me.
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>>5322545
I just finished the main objectives quickly and moved on to the portrait stage. And I'm glad I did, it's much more fun to grind for me and I could just play this one for the rest of my life.
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>>5322726
I had my own theories on art, I call it the "comfort zone" when a artist gets use to drawing one thing, instead of moving on, they stay in that zone, the safe and known, instead of branching out into the unknown and taking a chance, taking that chance is what makes us better at art, and anything, movies now are a prime example, movies want to make money so they do the same shit that other films do instead of taking a big risk and braking out of the comfort zone.
does that sound retarded? maybe I just am retarded
>>5322741
you have to take the risks, and you gotta just do it, like with this I had a idea and one day I said fuck it and drew it, regardless if it turned out shit
https://i.imgur.com/mbhtXOv.png
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>>5322741
Well if it was easy it wouldn't be worth it
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>>5322645
i love it
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>>5322545
>tfw can't buy the stonehouse anatomy book cuz I'm a dirty third-worlder
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surprisingly, this thread is the one that made me stop procrastinating drawing, thanks /v/
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>>5322747
not him but unfortunately, all the cool ideas I get tend to be way too detailed and usually have some crazy perspective shit going on that I can't hope to draw in any way that looks coherent
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>>5322545
>When does it get fun?
When a lot of people say things about your drawings
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>>5322744
>perspective
What do you use for that?
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>>5322747
Idk It might depend on the person but every single drawing is different and improved, for some though this is obvoisly not the case.
I wonder if it has to do with skipping the real life figure drawing skills of measuring via eye and pencil. This is the most thought intensive kind of art even more so then mental 3d visualization and lighting and I think those who skip this do not critically look at what they draw because they don't even know such a thing is possible
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>>5322545
Here's some motivation for anyone doubting their art skills
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>>5322751
I procrastinated on a couple cunny commissions to lurk in this thread.
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any good free youtube videos on learning to draw?
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>>5322687
The problem I have is that I need to understand a skill on some level in order to enjoy it, and I have yet to discover any resources that are geared towards that. I don't need to be good in order to have fun with a skill, but flailing around in the dark with no clue how/why the skill works, what principles I should be following, or what processes/techniques I could be attempting to employ is extremely frustrating. I end up feeling like I'm trying to reinvent the entire discipline.

Meanwhile most beginner-level drawing books just supply a bunch of exercises to grind that are supposed to help the reader get better at some aspect of drawing the author can't even be bothered to describe.

>>5322711
Same here. Copying drawings is easy, but doing so has taught me nothing about how to draw from life or imagination.
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>>5322754
everything
everything in life is in perspective.
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>>5322559
This is me, basically, Nothing stuck.
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What if I just want to learn to draw my favorite anime characters hugging and kissing each other?
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>>5322762
Yaoi commissions pull massive bux you know. You can pay your rent with that shit.
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>>5322756
If you do it just for the other retarded people then you are ngmi.
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>>5322750
I can read basic chink but it's so hard to understand the technical and anatomical stuff he likes to go into. English scans when?

>>5322756
Not wrong but you're not usually drawing for others, you're drawing for yourself. If I hate my art I'm not gonna be happy even if it gets featured on national television.
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>uninstall the drivers that fucked my tablet in the first place
>tablet still does not recognize it's pen

389.99 coaster bros where we at
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>>5322750
the fuck, I thought it would be one of those things you'd have to be a bitcoin millionaire to buy.

It's cheap, can't you just find the pdf online?

As alternative, don't. Just fucking go on youtube like a normal person or even better, use anything and start fucking drawing. That's how I always did it.
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>>5322545
>Drawing
>Fun
Welcome to hell. There's a reason artists are so frequently mentally ill trainwrecks.
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>>5322753
true, I'd go one step further and say the epitome of dopamine reward is when people actually engage with what you're drawing and ask questions. Likes are empty.

Gonna hijack a character design thread and shill myself, I can't seem to find a discord or anywhere that wants to get as autistic about it as I do.
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>>5322752
then you start out small and then work your way to the more crazy shit later, experiment, it might turn into trial and error, but that's how it works, we make mistakes, and we learn from them, you are the only one who can take that first step forward, no one else can do it for you
>>5322755
even a simple doodle can help, a test to see how a pose would work at this angle, if it doesn't, doodle it again, until you get something, it might take 1000 doodles to get their, but that's art (at least how I see it)
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>>5322766
>Had a way easier time finding windows 10 drivers for my shitty chink tablet than I did for my old wacom tablet
Starting to think expensive tablets are a meme. Even in like 2009 a $50 off brand one did what anyone would need it to do.
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>>5322735
He's not, his head method is simple, easy to remember and I'm always starting with it when attempting any portrait.
That said, in his illustration book he literally says to draw a grid on a room's walls when taking photo references for illustrations.
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>>5322545
>days
Scrub.
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>>5322762
a pencil, an ereaser, a notebook with blank pages (or not, it's your choice), a screen so you can look at images as references.

There, this is all it fucking takes.
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>>5322762
3-5 years of self study learning the fundies, 4 years of art school honing your abilities, 4-8 years at a Atelier learning how the old masters did it.
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>>5322769
Middle column, top row is my favorite, anon.
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>>5322758
https://youtube.com/channel/UCbdyjrrJAjDIACjCsjAGFAA
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>>5322768
I realized why artists are all suicidal and insane after about six months of practicing
Too late for me to get out now though
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>>5322746
why do books lie horizontally?
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>>5322735
I tried loomis but I unironically had better results with some how to draw manga books
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>>5322779
they are too big to fit upright in my bookcase
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>>5322758
Proko's pretty good for fundamentals, he references Loomis a lot too.
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what's yer drawyin hing?
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>>5322754
Are you asking what perspective is used for or actually is? It’s basically tricking the viewer into thinking what they’re seeing on the paper is 3D space . When in reality it’s just lines on a piece of paper. When you get pretty deep into it you realize it’s basically a camera and you set the scene. I think that’s not the best answer but I had to read like 3 books on it and several videos to even get a grasp on it. You can see it in everyday life and a must when learning art. Not the best answer but if you don’t know what it is read some books on it.
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>>5322769
>I'd go one step further and say the epitome of dopamine reward is when people actually engage with what you're drawing and ask questions.
Too real. It always feels fantastic when people like my art enough to start asking about the characters's personalities and the world. Makes me feel like a little kid again.
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>>5322783
Bridges and walkways.
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>>5322786
tiles too?
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>>5322780
>with some how to draw manga books
post one
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>Used to draw all the time as a kid
>Pretty damn good at it
>Eventually gave up because I wasn't happy with anything I drew
>Haven't drawn anything the last fifteen years
I regret the lost time so much. Please don't give up like me, anons.
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>>5322783
Circles, lines
Maybe some doodle if I'm feeling brave
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>>5322758
I know lots of people shit on him over at /ic/ but Volen had the best guide for me personally on understanding what drawing really is. If you want to get deeper down the rabbit hole of art grabs his videos from ic they’re great videos imo. https://youtu.be/Gzoy3oKlh4k
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>Bought a drawing tablet in December 2016
>Drew about 2 months with it
>Haven't drawn since despite feeling the desire to learn to draw every day
Years wasted, anons. Years wasted.
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>>5322783
I want to draw a comic about a knight in the 1370s who is a man that hates his station and hates suffering, but has no choice, and eventually finds something worth suffering for. I am finally busting my ass and putting the cover page to paper, after years of neglecting drawing.
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>>5322784
>I had to read like 3 books on it and several videos to even get a grasp on it
What the fuck dude, you see in perspective.
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>>5322783
I have a idea a really, really dumb idea...
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>>5322791
Why do they shit on him?
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>>5322582
Proportions kinda fucked but the whole thing is good stuff, keep on working anon
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>>5322792
You should be using that to learn how to pain. Fuck drawing, learn to paint instead.
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>>5322747
I just hate spending an hour or two on a drawing, step back, and realize that a fucking toddler could have done better
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I wanna learn to draw so i can draw my D&D characters and my friends characters but i feel it might be the start of a slippery slope to furfaggotry
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>>5322674
Just a dumb akko sketch that did on my phone. I draw on paper for posing studies and other stuff but I'm afraid of buying a tablet. I feel like the second I buy proper equipment I'll start treating drawing as an obligation rather than something I do for fun.yes I know I fucked up the torso... and the arm... and the right leg... and the pelvis... and the left foot... and the breasts
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>>5322798
I want to learn to draw first, not paint.
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>>5322793
Also, I have no knowledge of tablets, just pen and pencil and paper. What are the advantages tablets bring to the table?
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>>5322628
its fucking art, dude
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>>5322783 Somewhat scratchy digital painting with alot of emphasis on shadows. Please forgive me for self shilling, >>5322674 is the only picture I have saved on my phone.
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>>5322756
more like:
>The Audience
>lol what is that shitty cake? I'll take a piece of the nice one instead
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>>5322800
you're already on a lot more slipperier slopes by just being on this website
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>>5322802
It's basically the same thing once you get an hang of it, you speed up so many levels the moment you know how to photobash pics together
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>>5322806
no anon, you are too hard on yourself, you're a cool dude
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>>5322801
Love the effort and style, anon. I've learned that the imperfections in our art makes them special, and only a pedant would bitch about what you have in that drawing.
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>>5322801
Flip the paper and hold it against the light, it will make mistakes a lot more obvious.
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>>5322762
Same things apply. You need to learn fundamentals, proportion, anatomy, volume, perspective, line control, etc THEN you apply that to caricature and study how your anime characters were drawn and then you can do it.
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>>5322783
hair, liquid, and fat. it's really satisfying to draw.
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>game doesnt tell you what the fuck anything means and how to set anything up
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>>5322803
Layers
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>>5322807
Been on this website for over a decade and the only thing i fear anymore is deepening my degeneracy.
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>>5322803
for me, colours and easy sharing
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>>5322796
Eh not sure but you can judge for yourself by his artwork if you think he’s worth your time. Take advice from whoever you want if you want to learn art. Some instructors work for other some don’t different strokes you know
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>>5322801
Relax! You know what you need to work on, and those things aside your form isnt half bad.
>>5322803
You can work in layers, undo actions, use multiple pens/brushes/pencils within an art program. The biggest hurdle is getting tablet drivers to function.
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>>5322776
Thanks! It's a character design based on an inside joke that one of his DFO characters is a literal raid boss.

>>5322785
POST IT

Its always nice seeing people be honest about how much any creative process is blood, sweat, and tears. Drives me up the wall seeing and feeling pressured into posts like "lol I had so much fun drawing this! :)" "can't wait to draw more fanart of (insert current trend here)!"
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>>5322803
Digital drawing is mostly just for convenience. You'll learn to appreciate it if you draw a lot because you can shit out tons of practice material without needing to mess with massive stashes of paper.
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>>5322816
You're absolutrly right. The biggest pain in my ass has been from going from penciling to penning. Fuck me, I had to make my own homemade lighbox for that shit.
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>>5322674
I'm composing a two pages spread with Boruto characters.
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>>5322803
If you have a scanner and your style doesn't rely on super crisp thin lines then its not needed.
A tablet does change the game for some people you don't have to buy paper and ink, you have advanced photomanipulation abilities so you can perfectly erase, warp proportions in an instant, even impose perspectival grids. Though it can be a crutch, constant erasing doesn't enforce significance of strokes, color picking directly from a reference deadens colors and of course tracing it very taboo right now
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>>5322811
Aw thanks a lot anon.
>>5322812
That's actually an old one. I've improved somewhat on proportions, perspective and general anatomy. That's just least bad of my old stuff if you can believe that
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>>5322815
What the fuck is game mode. I've only ever used wacom
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>>5322798
>Can't draw
>Can do watercolour mountains that look okay if you squint
I'm thinking of taking up chinese ink wash painting since apparently that's my limit
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>>5322674
Spend almost a month polishing this fuckin thing. Full body poses are hard. Wish I could draw more and faster
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I don't know how do people use drawing tablets. How can you move a pen and what that pen creates is not under the pen, seems super disorienting. Is it something that just clicks?
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>>5322827
disables pressure
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>>5322820
The biggest hurdle on the primitive tablets I've used in the past is the hand eye coordination being different from pen to paper. I guess I just need to sack up and learn.
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I'm happy I picked up drawing again.
I'm old and bad at it, but it's really interesting to learn something new. Drawing is a bit like having a fight with yourself between drawing what really exist and what you see.

It's a long way ahead, I'll just draw smut or porn when I'm 50, or whatever, but It'll be worth it I think.
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>>5322830
It's like learning how to type without looking at the keyboard.
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>>5322545
Is this book a good start to doodling?
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>>5322830
How do you think people use computer mice?
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>>5322821
You draw water, backgrounds, and autumnal colors very, very nicely anon. That is a beautiful picture.
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>>5322834
But even now I'm shit at that anon. But fuck me do video games teach me to remember keys. I guess my brain has a measure of faggot shit at work in it.
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>>5322778
>Too late for me to get out now though
Not true! I used to draw ever since I was a kid then after years of working on it I gave up and quit drawing for a decade now.
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>>5322830
It's only disorienting when I accidentally keep moving my tablet around or FireAlpaca reading my second monitor
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any good drawing video games?
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>used to be really into making music
>know nothing about music theory, composition, etc.
>can't even read sheet music, just fucking around in a DAW
>not very good since projects are usually just me doing random notes and seeing if it sounds good
>will occasionally sound decent and turn into something I can work with
>eventually start getting an idea of what works and what doesn't
>can make most projects into something workable now
>eventually over time get frustrated that no matter how hard I try I can never make anything as complex as the pros in large part because I still have no understanding how synths work and fucking with the knobs never gets me any where so I can only work with presets
>stop making music for the most part
>check back on some of the stuff I worked on years later
>way better than I remember
>like actually really fucking good
>have no idea how I made them and can never make something like them again because I no longer have the time nor the drive to fuck around in a DAW for hours every day
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The thing I realized about drawing is that I just couldn't muster the strength to start and I found out the reason for that was my desk wasn't set-up to draw... it was set-up to sit at a computer and thus I never drew.
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I genuinely wish death on the shrimp-dick janitors on /v/.
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>>5322799
That looks great anon, keep at it!
here is a example of what I wanted to do with 3d, will it work? no idea, but I'm gonna find out, even if it crashes and burns it's still a good experiment, and that is what art is about, experiments!
Looks like we got moved, but at least they didn't delete the whole thread...
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>>5322545
>tablet is working fine, almost completely well out of the box
>install drivers
>tablet stops working
>uninstall drivers
>tablet still not working
>restart computer, fully unplug and plug back in tablet
>Huion KAMVAS pro 16 still not working like it was when it was first plugged in


I don't get it and can't seem to find anyone to help me with this, not even my own friends, not even any of my discord servers. Google isn't giving me anything helpful and the huion website itself has that subtle chinese translation english feeling to it and nothing I have tried from their troubleshooting article helps. What the absolute fuck happened?
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>waiting to hit 300 replies and send it to /ic/
jannies pls
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>>5322841
Why is there no Rocksmith but for drawing?
It would be funny if this thread got slapped back to /v/ for getting back on-topic but off-topic at the wrong time
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>>5322851
post your drawing rocksmith ideas bros
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>>5322829
Anon that effort fucking shows, this looks proffessional.
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>>5322847
hopefully when you make the move to 3d you make readable text that isnt blue on blue bullshit
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>>5322849
whats not working? the stylus or the screen? try unplugging any other monitors to see if that helps. if it doesn't even work on another computer you might have a defective product. also, are you using the right stylus? if you got one from another huion tablet it won't work.
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>>5322851
The DS and Wii U had Art Academy, but I've no idea if they were any good.
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>>5322857
It's the only tablet I have ever owned, I quite literally have no choice but to be using the right pen because it's the only one that came with it that I own in the first place.
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>>5322850
oh you're right, we hit the bump limit, what the fuck
>>5322855
it was a quick example, also the characters are not going to be 3d, they will be 2d like >>5322795 should have said something to make that clear
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>>5322851
There was one made by Ubisoft that allowed you to draw, I bought it for the 360 just to get easy 800 achievements and returned it 2 days after because somehow GAME was fine with that.

The tablet was a bit limited, it's sad they didn't made more of that to improve the formula.
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>moved to /ic/

no no no aaaaaa
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I'll start drawing tomorrow. Now I'll hit the bed

>>5322864
Threads still last like a day here.
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>>5322808
I don't want to do that right now.
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>>5322842
Post music bro
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>>5322863
Have you tried different driver versions? I'm on v14.8.137.1273

How is your pen set up? Enable Windows Ink and Game Mode should be unchecked

What about the work area? Try calibrating it.
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>>5322868
I wish I could fucking start drawing, I have the equipment and the program but I can't figure out how the fuck to actually make it work together since this is my first time dealing with any of this shit and there's nobody to help me out anywhere, the fact that I'm on 4chan of all places is one last bout of desperation before I just return this to the manufacturer and say fuck it to drawing forever. Nobody told me how much of a bitch it'd be to actually set this kind of shit up, everyone basically acts like you just straight up plug it in and that's it, it fucking works
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>>5322868
I know threads here are slow, but I'm just wandering why they didn't just delete the thread?
at least everyone can post their art and talk about art for a little while, I'm gonna hit the sack too
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>>5322872
I have no idea how to even go about calibrating the work area, and my version is v14.8.173.1510 because that's all the website had available for download for my specific device. Everything about the pen is unchecked. This has literally no text to explain to me what the options actually are and do. It's basically just fuck around randomly and pray.
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>>5322868
>>5322877
Goodnight, anons. I am glad you came to this thread.
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>>5322875
Draw porn for yourself before bed time.
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>>5322853
Thanks a lot anon. Sometimes I wish I had infinite time to draw
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>>5322880
as soon as I get it to actually work anon
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>have working tablet
>have krita
>can never get around to actually drawing anything (+ and that's if I can even get around to figuring out WHAT I want to draw)
>not even to practice fundamentals
Someone send help
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>>5322878
So in Work Area are you unable to press the Monitor Calibration button? Or does your stylus not work when you try to complete the test? If your stylus doesn't even work it really sounds like your product is defective. If it doesn't even work on another computer just return it and get another. Don't give up, anon. I know this shit can be frustrating.
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>>5322829
>spend almost a month
But you're supposed to speedpaint and finish everything in a single session in under an hour or else the schizophrenia angels in your head will condemn you!
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>>5322887
No I mean on paper. Because it's good practice and way less harmful for your eyes. If you can't find motivation to draw digital don't force yourself to do it.
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>>5322890
I click it and there's no way to tell if clicking the button did anything. Everything about this manages to be frustrating and I'm not even at the part where I'm actually drawing yet, and doubt I'm even going to get there at this rate.
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>>5322891
Yeah :/ now they won't leave me alone
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This fucking stark black and white pen work is making me jealous.
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>>5322901
>>5322890
wait nvm I changed the display settings and then the calibration test happened on the tablet, it looks like I should be able to draw with it now
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For anyone looking to draw anime shit, check out pin2d.
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>>5322907
That's fantastic. Good luck on your art journey, Anon. Never give up.
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>>5322904
>Inland Empire
You have good taste, anon.
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>look for guides for beginner
>find drawbox from youtube, start doing the beginner course
>have fun until 250 box challenge
>do it, get aboslutely bored around 100 boxes
>force myself to finish it in few days to become a box god
>didn't become a box god and felt burned out
I haven't drawn anything for a month and I can only blame my own autistic ass for wanting to finish that.
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>>5322913
Man that game gets a lot of flak on /v/ but god is the art good
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>>5322911
I was about to ask you what the calibration test even looked like but then it showed itself

I get frustrated very easily and then when shit comes together the equivalent of the post-masturbation clarity hits and I am reminded of how much of a tempermental brainlet I'll always be, I'll admit one mistake I made in the beginning was clicking on the wrong name of the tablet and being confused since I didn't see any other options and thought that was the only one, didnt make a typo or anything but ended up typing something else in on the site that allowed me to see much more dropdown options for the exact same type of tablet I am currently using, and eventually found which one of those was the right option which is part of the reason why I had so much trouble initially since only the one I have now was giving me something that said the device was connected.

I have krita set up, you think that's an ok program to start with? Now I'm into the real can of worms where I need to basically learn a new language to be able to figure out a drawing program and get used to it, somehow.
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>>5322929
photoshop is good
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>>5322929
I've never used krita but I've heard good things about it. I use clipstudio myself. Anything that lets you draw is good enough for a beginner though.
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>>5322926
Agreed. Anyone that throws a shitfit over it is looking at politics as the focal point of things, and not the stunning prose, art, and story of Harry and Revachols befucked life.
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>>5322923
there's no such thing as 'finishing' the box challenge
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>>5322935
Should I worry at all about messing with the settings? I know the whole 'find out what works and is good for you' sort of thing but I'm guessing I shouldnt worry about that at all right now
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Why can't I color on Procreate? None of the brushes let me color. The color just doesn't come out.
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>>5322941
when i try to procreate the only color that comes out is white idgi
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>>5322940
You shouldn't worry. Messing with and collecting brushes is an easy trap to get into. I only use 3 brushes for my art. But when I was just starting out I used the binary tool which barely has any settings. Not sure what Krita's equivalent is. I just needed to draw.
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>>5322703
>>5322710
>>5322723
I've done it, he doesn't look human nor does he have a left arm, but I've done it
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why's working in an actual art program so overwhelming bros... there's so much tools and all my unga brain knows is 'durr freehand with your shitty precision and wobbliness'
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>>5322955
for me, I draw in photoshop, I draw freehand then when i want to fix a line to make it perfect i use the pen tool not sure if your program has a pen tool.
or if i'm finished drawing i take the drawing/doodle into another program like inkscape or adobe illustrator and turn the drawing/doodle into a scalable vector graphic.
You do not have to do any of that though, freehand drawings are fine on their own, and not every line has to be perfect, there is always going to be human error and stuff like that.
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Your people's problem is that you don't draw.

Just... draw.
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>>5322978
Chris Chan just draws and see where thats gotten him
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>>5323015
The fact that you use a mentally ill person as an argument shows that there's not much going on in your head.
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>>5322978
But anon-kun, WHAT do I/we draw?
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>>5323029
Fucking anything. Drawing is better than not drawing. The more I spend time thinking about it the less likely I'll do it.
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>>5323029
Draw a fucking moth or some shit,something that's really fuzzy but has a simplistic form to put together that'll look like you accomplished something even if its composed entirely of frizzy sketch lines
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>>5322629
The art and science of drawing brent eviston
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>>5323186
Here's your moth, it's not very good though. Probably should have used a different brush for this. Oh well...
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>>5323262
Now do it again a hundred times.
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>>5323262
A very cute moth, Anon. have my upvote. <3
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>>5323641
I WILL slap you. Also that moth needs a ton more work. Namely I need to do some actual shape constructing, to divide the damn thing into half and to do better on the contrast side of things. It was drawn in a hurry after all. Can't say moths are the most exciting things to draw.
As a side note for >>5323578
I'm not sure repetition alone will make that moth good. Though I appreciate the advice non the less. I will have to grind out one of my drawings (probably not this moth though) eventually...
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>>5322978
How do I just draw if I don't know how to draw? The only things I have ever created with these tools are mindless scribbles and copies of existing drawings. I don't know how to do anything else.
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>>5323715
The way I see it if you're starting from scratch you have to swallow your pride and start where we all start, from the level of a child. Some people start drawing since an early age, and they find it fun and stick with it. That's untold hours of work that slips past under the guise of it being play.

But now we're all grown up and have ideas of what we want to draw, except they end up like kid scribbles. This is very uncomfortable, so we try to grind tutorials and fundies, but for most that simply isn't fun so motivation peters out. Getting good at drawing involves a lot of effort over a long period of time, so long term motivation has to be maintained by making the activity fun. If you find out how to do this, please tell me how.
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>>5323899
Not him but I've seen drawing from my way younger niece that look better than stuff I've done. After going at it for a few months now I feel I've gotten a bit better, even if I've felt a bit stagnant lately. As for having fun with it, just need to find some inspiration is all. Usually for me it's something from the last vidya I played, but I at least try to doodle SOMETHING at least once a day.
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0/10 it's missing a crazy hat.
Jokes aside, it's good, you captured the style pretty well.
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>>5323262
that moth is almost too formless
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>perfectly envision something in my head
>try to draw
>it's all retarded
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>>5323653
10/10 maximum autismo post would sperg again
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