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I mean it's not as if you're making a point of never making it in art kek
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>he doesn't paint while listening to lectures on individuation

do you even care if your drawings are art?
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>>5374258
Jung was a fraud
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By the same logic as this, you wouldn't be able to draw unless you're in a sound proof environment, kek. People that can't filter out a distraction have a weakness to overcome.
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Not listening to music works for some people and others prefer music. Stop trying to pigeonhole people into your preferred method of learning how to draw.
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>>5374248
only when doing retarded exercises like drawing 200 boxes
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>>5374297
Stop pretending doing whatever you want gives good results.
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>>5374248
>Not being able to think multiple things at once
Found the brainlet
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>>5374248
It's fine if it's music without lyrics.
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>>5374248
Of course I do, why wouldn't I, because one artist said they can't do more than one thing at a time and now it's a law?
>>5374386
I almost never listen to music with lyrics anymore, does it matter though? I'd imagine if there were lyrics people would tune them out after some time.
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I do it when I don't have to think. For instance, when I'm linearting or coloring, because these are more of a manual task than a mental one.

Even then, listening to music hinders you back. What could be done in, say, 2 hours, becomes a 2:30h task.
Which is not so bad if you also have the goal to go through a music backlog (I do) and the fact that those 30 extra minutes are a small price to pay for being able to stomach another 2h of a (virtually) non-creative, boring task such as finishing a drawing you have already completely "solved" beforehand.

Doing it while you are doing MENTAL work (planning, creating, constructing) is definitely a bad idea. You WILL get gains, but they will be lessened by the constant distraction. I advise you only listen to music "all the time" if you're a ADHD retard like >>5374275 who can't tell music pumping inside your brain apart from the sound of cars here and there. Or if you are a spic with a screaming family on the background 24/7, that would make noise-canceling music a plus.

Not an excuse, though, you can always listen to noise as a filtering method for these situations instead.
Pink is my favorite:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXtimhT-ff4


>>5374297
>>5374397
It's scientifically proven you can't pay attention to two tasks at once, acting outraged on the Internet won't change this fact.
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>>5374248
i ussualy watch some movie or listen to creepypastas like ben drowned
man...
i feel old
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it depends on what you're doing, i think an illustrator can get away with listening to music much more in the rendering process. an animator needs to concentrate a lot more.
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>>5374442
>i feel old
Ben creepypastas (or anything Minecraft related) are still something for 10yos in my mind, anon, get on my level.
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>>5374248
this only applies to animators. they do all sorts of weird timing shit in their head, I don't even understand it because animation is so unappealing to me, but I can see why you couldn't listen to music if you're always maintaining some kind of internal clock of the rhythm and pacing of the animation.

for me though, I find music to be great. the best drawings come when you're relaxed. if you're too tense then your lines will show it, your imagination will be stifled, and it will show in your drawings. if music relaxes you then it's good for non-animation art
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>>5374421
>It's scientifically proven you can't pay attention to two tasks at once, acting outraged on the Internet won't change this fact.
the two tasks are not separate though. music is drawing

https://youtu.be/ycPyusuBaAs?t=97
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>>5374248
Shut.
The.
FUCK.
Up.
Yusuke Murata blasts dragon quest music every time he sits down and draws.
You're retarded and bored.
Go draw.
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>>5374528
>dragon quest music
dam he's got good taste.
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>>5374248
I put on shows in the background, I listen to the plot and occasionally look up and see visuals, but I draw just fine
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>>5374248
The whole point of music is to help tune out background noise and induce flow state or "The Zone". It doesn't even have to be music in particular
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>>5374460
>>5374467
this is really all that needed to be said. animation is a totally different beast. if you're sitting there stewing about the timing of a certain action, you're going to need total concentration to figure it out. it's a far more active process than rendering the shading on your furry porn.
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>>5374248
That take is invalid. Someone like Yoshinari to listens to music while he works.
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The earliest stages are the hardest, I need silence to concentrate
later stages where it's mostly just bringing it to a finish I am comfortable with podcasts
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>>5374363
schizo
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i don't get it. When i put music/a vid on while i'm drawing, it's just there for background noise. Most of the time i'm not even paying attention to the it. Are there actual people in this thread that have to pay attention to both things? They can't just block one out?
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>>5374248
I do listening to music/podcast while drawing and once I got the momento those sounds only become background
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>>5375640
Whether you feel like it or not your brain is being distracted by it. The only kind of music that doesn't take away from your focus and gains is instrumentals. Or so studies have found.
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>>5375661
Studies can be wrong.
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>>5375661
but my skill doesn't get worse when i have stuff in the background. i draw the same with noise and with silence.
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>>5375664
Brain scans are wrong? Music takes attention away from cognitively demanding tasks. It's fine if you're doing some tedious rendering on a bargue plate, that's monotonous brainless shit. But if you're trying to learn something, recall information, or do any difficult work on a drawing, you absolutely are being distracted. You may not feel it, you may not like it, but it is true.
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>>5375673
>that's monotonous brainless shit
I'd argue with that. If it became monotonous brainless shit to you then chances are you're not learning anything new and might as well just move on to something else.
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Music helps drown the voices in my head speaking to me.
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>>5375690
Are you saying that rendering out a bargue plate with pencils isnt monotonous or mindless? Have you ever done them? You learn a lot but when you get past laying your tones down and into rendering it's literally just filling in blank space for hours on end with a flat tone.
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>>5375709
Maybe that's because you can already draw. For me nailing likeness is extremely difficult
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>>5374248
i do, if my surroundings allow it, without headphones/earbuds. I have a big ol' CD player, but in more public places i use headphones to not be that asshole.

Instrumental music can help a lot if you really wanna focus on stuff. But if you are just filling in details, sketching,... just anything that pleases the ears.
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>>5375709
>Rendering for hours
Why do this? Just indicate it and move on. Spending more than an hour at most on rendering is Morgan Freeman pencil drawing autism. No one even appreciates overly rendered stuff
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>>5375800
Do you not understand what doing bargue plates in pencil is like? The point is to make a 1:1 copy to train your accuracy and form rendering to completion.
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>>5374248
https://youtu.be/KEdcOR179_Q
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>>5374470
I don't think everyone has this inclination.
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>>5374470
??? this is so weird
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I rarely listen to music

Usually only long car rides.
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>>5375866
>>5375916
soul
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>>5374248
Yeah because Murata is a NGMI (he listens to music while he draws)

also not all of us have the luxury of a quiet environment at all times
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>>5375987
Some of my friends are pro artists and they smoke weed. If you don't like weed that does not mean it's bad!!! Stop demonizing it now!
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>>5376220
You're a retard, an addictve drug and MUSIC have nothing in common. Also none of your "artist" hippie friends are as prolific as murata
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>>5374248
Look at how Richard Williams mismanaged the Thief and the Cobbler and squandered every opportunity he had to complete it, and tell me he should be giving advice on efficiency and productivity.
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>>5376220
what's wrong with weed when used in moderation? it's useful to smoke once every week or once every other week and then to practice drawing because the mechanism of the drug helps to break up established thought patterns and you will notice obvious, deeply ingrained mistakes that you have been making (for example, some subtle bad habit that you have where you maybe make the eyes slightly too far apart and you just do that every time you draw without noticing or maybe some kind of weird and subtle chicken scratching that you do without noticing. just little things that your brain filtered out and doesn't notice anymore)
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>>5376416
Yeah yeah rely on your drugs, druggie
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>>5376418
I don't see how it's any different from someone who drinks coffee. drugs are just tools like any other tools.
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>>5376423
>"No rules, just tools," Glenn said with a grin as he took another honk from his crack pipe
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>>5375864
Beautiful animation
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>>5375669
It might be that your skill is not decreased, but your rate of learning is. Maybe without music, you could be getting a lot more out of your drawing sessions.
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What about listening to music with subliminal messages?
https://soundcloud.com/tony-robbins-subliminal
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>>5376423
I don't know how cannabinoids are any different from caffeine either lol
>>5376271
I know a guy with very high IQ who has majored in one of the best university in the US and he smokes weed! How could he do it If it was bad? Checkmate.
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>>5374421
>It's scientifically proven you can't pay attention to two tasks at once
yeah but listening music is not a task
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>>5376416
cope
>>5376418
based
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>>5376423
when people say stuff like this it makes me think they are smoking different weed than I've had or some shit. Basically it's magnitude. Weed changes your perception and senses far more than the slight boost in energy that caffeine does. caffeine makes me feel 5% different and weed makes me feel 210% different. etc
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>>5374470
>>5375866
>>5375916
>>5375981
Based cryptocrab giving esoteric useless art advice to keep people stagnated when they find out they can't do the thing.
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>>5374248
It's been a while since I read the animator's survival kit, but wasn't the context of this particular OP image for animating? Listening to music while animating throws you off the timing of the animation because you'd be influenced by the beat of the music you're listening to, hence it's better to animate silently. At least that's what my animation teacher told me specifically in reference to this section of the book. Every time I see this image posted on /ic/, this context is always left out.
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>>5374421
So you're one of those people who have trouble breathing and walking at the same time huh?

People CAN focus on multiple things at the same time, it's just not efficient WHICH IS WHAT YOU JUST FUCKING SAID.

Stop trying to pigeonhole people prick, what doesn't work for you doesn't apply to everyone especially people here who are NGMI and should be enjoying themselves.

Repeat after me, NO RULES ONLY TOOLS.
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>>5377882
Stressful day, anon?
Try not overstimulating your brain with 3 things at once, it can do wonders for you.
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>>5374248
Da vinci listened to music while painting, it was one of the reasons he preferred painting to sculpting, because the act of chipping marble is too loud
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>>5377573
I love cryptocrab, I wish more crabs would talk like him.
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>>5377573
>>5378072
is cryptocrab the same crab that's always talking about esoteric masculine/feminine shit?
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>>5377903
Nah, today's a good day. Went for a walk, just finished a warmup study, favorite podcast while I did the dishes.

Now I'm gonna get stoned and paint for my actual work just because I feel like it.

Oh, and just for reference I Hate listening to music, I just have a low tolerance for people who want others to stagnate out of their own ego when it's obvious they know better than that.
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>>5378160
It's a pretty shit painting but that's what studies are for.
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>>5378166
nice
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>>5378160
druggies... ew
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>>5374248
i do
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>>5378160
>haha jokes on you, I am NOT overstimulating my brain with music, I do it directly through drugs instead
I'm glad for you, anon. A shining beacon of brain health.
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>>5378276
>>5378195
If you're going to fellate the myth artists don't smoke at least be interesting with it. Come on you're creatives, let's do better than DARE program trite nonsense.

.>>5378192
Thanks
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>>5378303
I'm not saying artists don't smoke, I just don't consider them people.
Lots of artists are gay, doesn't mean I have to "explore my sexuality" in order to succeed. Ad hoc justifications for addictions do you no favor.
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>>5378311
Sounds like uncle Job explored your sexuality for you.

Maybe if I was you I'd let myself have a nice grand mal seizure and go ahead and be a veg.
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>>5374248
Usually if it is something challenging i do it without any distractions, like a perspective piece requires me to really pay attention. Anything like gesture or cartoon or animating is the oposite, I need something on or else i get hyper focused and lose the bigger picture making everything very stiff
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>>5374275
Animation is different because you have to think about beats and timing and music can mess with that
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>>5376220
>If you don't like weed that does not mean it's bad!!!
yeah?
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>>5378030
Did he invent a phonograph too?
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>>5374421
>All that text only to end up recommending listening to fucking noise
Meds, now.
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>>5380345
Noise doesn't take away brain power, next time try reading the text instead of wondering at its size.
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>>5374248
>Mosque noises everyday
>Constant pet screaming from neighbor
Music and noise cancelling headphones are my friend to filter distraction. if I want to go ham I'll just use construction earmuff.
But yeah I'd love to have soundproofing in my workspace.
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>>5380339
no, he had servants playing live music for him. he even had them recite books while he was working. i'm not making this up, it's in his collected diaries
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>>5380718
>‘[The painter] sits down in front of his painting, very much at his ease: well dressed, holding a light brush, applying agreeable colours, clothed as he pleases; his lodgings are clean and filled with lovely paintings, and he can often accompany his work with music or by the reading of a varied choice of belles lettres, which he can listen to with great pleasure without being disturbed by the pounding of the sculptor’s hammers or any other such din.’
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>>5374248
I'm a semi consistent commission artist and ESPECIALLY on commissions I'm listening to hours long music mixes. The more on topic (e.g. cyberpunk, fantasy, etc) the better.

What issue are you finding? It sounds like a you problem.
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OP knows in his heart that he's autismal as fuck. Do you do that funny thing where you bang the side of your head when there's noises?
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>>5380485
Where are you from? Sweden or France?



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