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tell us you've grown as an artist without telling us you've grown as an artist
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it got worse
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how does this happen. The left has much more "soul" than the stylized "right" which looks flat and fake.
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>>5515047
>>5515038
Proof that they have grown as an artist. Now they just dont give a fuck anymore
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>>5515036
>left
>shirt's lines clearly have some thought put into them
>right
>15 seconds of work, as boring as possible
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Globohomo claims another.
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>>5515036
My biggest fear is to turn into one of these people and stagnate forever. 0 Visible improvement in 3 years. What the fuck.
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>>5515372
post your progression
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Is this a improvement thread or you are just being a faggot with the twitter faggot?
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>>5515372
This is what happens when you don't study real humans
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>>5515036
>tell us you've grown as an artist without telling us you've grown as an artist
I coom now

Jokes aside, I found /ic/ in 2019. It helped immensely.

I generally feel pretty bad about my stuff until I look at my stuff from around then.
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2016 to 2021. I was looking trough my old stuff and I did great progress 2016 to 2018, but from 2018 to now I basically stagnated, 2020 was the darkest year of my life since I basically didn't draw anything, I learned new things but is not the type of dramatic improvement easily showed. Anyway, only posting there because is the oldest portrait I have access against the most recent.
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>>5515382
Is it ever anything but the latter?
>>5515388
Nice improvement anon
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>>5515399
Is the one on the right not finished or...?
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>>5515388
Mirin progress
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>>5515406
No, not really, not really the left either. Both are some sort of experimentation with face structures, so they are pretty similar in nature, that's why I'm comparing both.

I tried finishing with colors a couple of times by now, but i fucked the process and now all the colors look like shit, so I'm just letting in grayscale and allowing this to be a future me problem.
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>>5515388
disgusting subject but the recent art seems fine to me
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>>5515388
Don't get too caught up in "muh style" and keep it anatomically correct and pleasing to the eye. While you lines and muscle and fat anatomy are better in the latest progress, your character has no elbows or wrists and lost her hourglass waist (unless you like the fridge torso look) So I actually like the middle progresses art style while your skill has greatly improved.

I also recommend the thing you could focus on to really make your art pop is line weight. For the middle one you naturally used the pencil to place thick lines in shadow and thin lines in light. Please keep that up and make sure you are doing that for your current work. A lot of artists don't have the naturally eye for that like the middle shows you have it. So please don't lose that.
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>>5515467
pyw
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>>5515372
went to school with a kid who had a sketchbook filled nearly front to back with character designs like the pic you posted

clothing and hair would be different, but it was basically always the same facial features and 3/4 turn and edgy and terrible

he and everyone thought they looked great, he rarely got any negative feedback, normies just seem shapes and colors and are like "omg i can't draw this is so neat how did you do this"

picrel is not too far off stylistically but looks 1000x better, if dude could have just broken the mold maybe he would have done something interesting

thanks for reading my blog
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>>5515388
Don't get too caught up in "muh anatomy", keep it stylized and pleasing to the eye.
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>>5515388
Don't get too caught up in "muh style", keep it anatomically correct and pleasing to the eye.
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This is the only redraw comparison I have on-hand. There is another I redrew, but I don't feel like going through the bullshit of finding the old picture and getting a photo of it.
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>>5515627
confirming furfags have no soul
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>>5515627
so did he just fuckin annihilate that island in the left corner of the before picture
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>>5515372
lmao left looks like an OC from tails gets trolled
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>>5516286
that's the sun
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>>5515372
>>5515526
What I don't get is why they always have these disgusting proportions, it's like anime gone Chernobyl.
Always the low mouth with very small but broad chin, potato nose and huge eyes that go far beyond the top third of the head.

Anon saying there is a "guy" he knew that drew like this is very baffling to me, as it gives me major fujoshi feelings. As if some sort of decadent female Zeitgeist had formed that favors this kind of terribly wrong original (do not steal) proportions.
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>>5515627
Christ. 5 years for this, all you've done is changed your values. Reminds me of when I used to visit Grannies house and do a big drawing on her printer paper with my school pencils 15 years ago. Go and study art for the love of God
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stopped drawing people 2017, 2020 is me drawing again
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>>5515047
Lazyness
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>>5515627
based 40furK nigga
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>>5515036
Wait, the second one is just the same thing as the first only they held down the Shift button each time they drew a line
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>>5515388
Where can I get your more recent art of that chick on the right? It's very nice.
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>>5516923
Here's the full size of the shirt cut pic. Most recent stuff with her in it. I don't have a blog for my stuff.

>>5515584
>>5515552
The duality of anon

>>5515465
>>5515407
>>5515401
Thanks guys

>>5515467
Thanks for the in-depth take.

>you naturally used the pencil to place thick lines in shadow and thin lines in light
Ha, I think you're giving me way too much credit there. It is something I'm trying to keep in mind though.
>unless you like the fridge torso look
Yeah it was a deliberate change but I'll try to bring more of the hourglass back in the future.
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>>5516299
holy shit lol this is insane. i think i would actually be afraid of someone who would draw this because clearly their view of the world is warped and evil
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>>5516801
i hate to be that person but i definitely prefer the overall face structure of 2012 versus the more babbified 2020. that said, your anatomy has absolutely improved tenfold, great work
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Still got a long way to go but about 10 months ish.
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>>5516986
Good work, how many hours a week?
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>>5517004
On and off depending on life stuff. Last couple months have been about 50ish. I had to take a few periodic breaks of weeks to a couple months because of work.
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>>5516986
gmi I believe in you anon
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>>5515038
Much
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>>5516288
Thank you Shittywebcomics (swc) for putting Tails Gets Trolled back in the social consciousness
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>>5515036
I started drawing in 2018 but I only did redraws direct reference (without tracing) but literal copy paste by eye, In 2020 I almost quited drawing as a whole, but I reignited my passion by forever abandoning copy/trace and actually working on my fundies, Pic related is one of my copied jobs
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>>5517045
Part 2

I started drawing from imagination but still using reference as study to improve and not to "draw cool things", pic related is the humble beginnings of actually learning fundies
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>>5517056
Part 3
This is today me, I haven't done anything elaborated but rather a bunch of short studies, not going ultra ham in any particular drawing but hey I'm very happy with my progress and actually I enjoy drawing today, something I didn't back when I was copying blindly any other artist I found to be cool
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>>5516801
Sometimes you find some people with actually nice looking art on this board and it sucks because you’ll probably never find them anywhere else
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>>5515627
Dagon? Pope fish hat?
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>>5516986

Doing well. don't forget to use straight lines and keep in mind the overall flow of the gesture, all elements are connected. dhjsa
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>>5517077
who asked
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>>5517077
Thanks man I will. Currently working on value painting for the time being but when I rotate back into figure drawing soon I'll keep that in mind. My gestures got a lot better after I worked on them for a while but they still need a lot of work.
>>5517030
thanks you too
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>>5515388
>>5515399
>>5516801
>>5516932
Soul / Soulless.
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>>5516932
Looks like someone played Sim City as a kid.
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>>5517362
Buzzword / Retard
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>>5515036
I don't draw anymore.
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>>5516986
how fast are you doing each of these poses anon? great progress
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>>5515036
Why does this always happen without fail whenever an artist gets popular? There's this one girl YouTube keeps trying to push, and she recently did a redraw of one of her old artworks and it looked worse. Are they just getting lazy, or is there actually a correlation with fame and degrading talent?
>>5516299
>41 likes
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>>5516965
No, they are just barely legal edgy teen enter a phase.
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>>5516986
Fell for the Watts meme.
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>>5519595
>Why does this always happen without fail whenever an artist gets popular?
It doesn’t matter, the one on the left took 5 hours whilst the 1 on the left took 1 to 2.
Even so, does it really matter, no it doesn’t it’s just stupid internet stuff that will get buried in the wind in 5-10 years
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>>5519498
I was experimenting with different mannequinization techniques in an attempt to be able to draw poses from different angles better so its hard to say but if I'm just drawing a gesture from ref to line drawing about 20-35 mins depending on the complexity and how picky I am with the linework. I tried a bunch of different mannequin techniques for each one and did some alternative angles of that same pose so its really hard to gauge how long I spent on each one.
>>5519604
you caught me lmao
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>>5516965
>holy shit lol this is insane. i think i would actually be afraid of someone who would draw this because clearly their view of the world is warped and evil
>someone drew edge
>LMAO THEY MUST BE EVIL
That is stupid, do you honestly think manga artists are evil because they draw edgy characters.
Are we on the same website anyway, complaining about edge, on 4chan
Jesus man this site is becoming more like Twitter each day
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>>5519619
>Jesus man this site is becoming more like Twitter each day
there are better chans out there, but their drawing boards are even slower than here so
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2017 v 2021
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>>5519595
> Are they just getting lazy, or is there actually a correlation with fame and degrading talent?

When you become famous you tend to streamline your work so it becomes easier to put out in massive quantity.
You find shortcuts
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>>5519622
>there are better chans out there, but their drawing boards are even slower than here so
I already know what you are talking about, the webring and that moe site.
Those sites are full of sad cunts trying to relive the past on their gay dying circlejerk community.
It’s not like this place is any better though.
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>>5515036
I'm making shitposts for fun instead of just grinding
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>>5517045
>>5517056
>>5517060
boring. nobody gives a shit.
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>>5519660
teres major goes infront of the longhead of the triceps :)
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>>5519690
FUCK
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>>5519690
NERD!
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got into digital art last year, probably could be better but im happy enough with the improvement so far
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A long road ahead. But I will do the slow and steady approach.
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>>5519964
teach me how to render bro
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>>5519964
her arms get worse and worse, it looks like clay and way too thick
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>>5519964
He dominated all the stylistic choices between realism and fully cartoonized starting with realism first. Is the correct thing to do btw, if you want to do a good job in any style you choose there is.

If you don't get this you shouldn't be using this board.
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>>5519906
>drawing homestucks in $CURRENT_YEAR
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>>5520029
fuck off you didnt have to point it out it in front of everyone like that... now im embarrassed
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>>5520081
I used to be a fan. Like eight years ago.
Hey, maybe it's making a comeback. There was that long homestuck history video on Youtube, that's gotta have rekindled some interest.
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>>5516801

I unironically like 2012 more. Sorry, anon.
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>>5515372

Yeah, I really dont get it. My gf just recently got into drawing and has improved a ridiculous amount in a few months then I see people like this who just absolutely do not fucking change whatsoever.
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>>5515036
why do niggers insist on drawing niggers, seriously niggers are so ugly they're the very antithesis of beauty, and in turn make the point of making art moot
why'd you do that to yourself
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>>5515372
>Token Queer NPC
At least she's honest
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>>5517060
improvement, anon!
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>>5515372
It’s also a huge fear for me. Those posts fill me with indescribable anxiety, but if you actively reference off better artists this 99,9% won’t ever happen, people who stagnate refuse to change their ways and don’t try new things
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>>5520289
Well said, niggers are disgusting! Why would you want to recreate something so repulsive
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>>5515036
wow, genuinely embarrassing.
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>>5520373
Thanks anon
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>>5516801
ignore the weebs who coom to any gundum ripoff cringe they see anon. right is better and actually has a style. keep up the good work.
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>>5516801
i like the right one more too except she looks a little too short
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>>5516932
Super underrated quote.
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>>5515036
i don't think i really learned anatomy until this year, even though idk i wouldn't consider it too much improvement
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Stagnation happens when you adopt a stylistically cultist mindset, only inbreeding can happen from that point.
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>>5516801
That Joel Jurion huh
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>>5519964
2015: soul
2016: soulless
2017: even less soul
2018: less soul
2019: less soul
2020: slightly more soul
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>>5515036
one isn't really better than the other, maybe the one on the left has more detail, but someone could say right is cuter. There isn't enough of a difference between them to show any kind of skill improving.
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>>5515036
"I know how to draw hands".
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>>5515036
I still suck but I try not too now and hate everything I draw~
I have been told this is unhealthy. I think they are in a fucking cope
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I dont draw.
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Looking at my stuff from 2015 makes me want to puke
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>>5523877
>I have been told this is unhealthy. I think they are in a fucking cope
No, it's pretty unhealthy to hate everything you draw or most of what you draw, you should enjoy it, if not, you're not drawing for yourself but for the subjective approval of others.
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>>5515036
I'm sure i ngmi
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>>5520289
trying too hard
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>>5525720
I do enjoy drawing but Im just not at the level I want to be at. I'm doing my studies and reading a little and I am improving little by little
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>>5523877
ur stuff is pretty ugly

i recommend working on stylizing the eye and nose area and face area. your body is fine enough and quite a large improvement from the first (extremely) in all areas.
dont do such a sharp shadow on the jawline, and dont tilt the eyes so much/maybe larger irises/pupils, and cheeks dont look like that when pushed up. and the mouth is-- im not sure how to fix that. maybe not so small of a tongue?


good job though, keep it up youre pretty good for what it is, and the things catching you up that i pointed out once fixed will make a pretty big improvement to stylistic appeal :D
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>>5516801
I get why people are more drawn to the style of the face but you're crazy if you think 2012 is better than 2020.
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I don't feel very satisfied with my facial expressions and lineart, I can admit this year I've learned a thing or two about colors.
A bit ashamed of draw so many anime girls. I have more fun drawing than a year ago.
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>>5515036
Well, this has been a depressing thread.
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I feel like shit comparing myself to others, everyone got gesture and anatomy a lot better in about a year and I have yet to break from the need of posing dolls for reference. It's been about nearly 3 years since I started to draw, I keep telling myself the excuse that I'm an old fuck and got no patience so I jump straight to drawing instead of studying more like I should.
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>>5515036
>left
>deviantart
>right
>twitter
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>>5526457
Really good progress anon I hope you keep improving. What tablet do you use?
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>>5515036
I no longer hate andrew loomis
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>>5520285
those people who don't improve rarely study and practice.
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>>5520201
you missed out on some wild drama that caused
it killed it deader if anything
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>>5526177
Thanks dude. I'll move my focus to face studys and I'll try and refine my style. Seriously thanks I want nothing more than to improve.
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including physical drawings
made this in paint sorry
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>>5517045
>>5526993
holy shit based alitabro
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>>5516288
>Tails gets trolled
Now that is kino
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>>5515372
i hate this artstyle
i feel i've seen it a million times
why is the nose so large? why does he not have a chin?
is this an antisemitic drawing?
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>>5515388
Holy shit. How/What/How much did you study?
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>>5519940
Do you have a blog, anon?
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>>5526214
I think the progress is evident anon.. here is mine, made in 2020
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>>5527217
what is the moral of that story
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>>5527440
When you see a Tumblr post and you go out your way to partake in any way or form you get what you fucking deserve.
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>>5527139
Constructive Anatomy, Figure Drawing, Design and Invention and Sinix's various videos.

For stylisation I'm in the process of copying artists I like. With am emphasis on reconstructing what I like about it rather then just copying an pasting. I think it's important to try and understand 'why they eyes were styled that way'.

I try to spend a couple of hours a day but have had a few periods where I go a week or so without sketching. These are death.
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>>5527440
Someone was impersonating that anon so the moral is if you want good drama screenshots then impersonate an anon and then screenshot everything from another device
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>>5515036
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Not the fastest in the west, but its progress
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>>5528128
Thanks!
Damn I need to hit some anatomy.
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>>5528325
looking good anon
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trying my best to learn the brushes, also i acquired some smaller ones so i wont fuck up details this often
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>>5519964
It's like a distortion filter applied more and more
but in the end it's the goal of drawing to accent the features
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>>5526214
oye conchetumare, reconozco ese dibujo que posteaste en el bandada club
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>>5515036
I bought a full-length mirror for the times where I cant find a pose reference matching the one I have in my head.
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>>5516801
Just swap the heads and 2020 would be perfect





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