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>>5616478
Haven't been actively drawing for a few months now. My tablet was pissing me off, and I just “gave up”. I bought another one just now, already used, but the pictures looked good, and it's a Wacom, if it's in good shape as it looks I'll come back to shitpost here with you guys. I missed you all.
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i get motivated to study every half year orso, then i burn myself out. And the only thing i can get myself to make is endless scribbles, until i burn myself out on that as well.
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I absolutely despise this fsggot nigger "animator" Yuasa. I hate every anime he has participated in. I hate that /a/fags and normiefags shill him so much. I hate that his animation is by far the worst and most horrendous in existence and yet pretentious faggots praise him like he's the god of animation. I hate his fucking retarded "anime" with faggish looking lips amd fucking idiotic ping pong wtf who de fuck cares about that. I really hope this chinkoid dies in a horrible way. Same goes for the creator of jojos normie shit
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I have trouble drawing full subjects, I enjoy and I think I'm decent (for my skill level) at drawing parts of a subject, a limb, a head, a hand, a torso etc but it just falls apart when I try to draw the whole thing.
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I wish more people would post on /ic/ so it wouldn't be so dead and full of the regular schizos. Like a lot more beginners and people looking to improve and sharing ideas.
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>>5616478
It's been about a year since I haven't drawn seriously. The last thing I made was a copy of Robert Campin's Annonciation with graphite.
Now I feel that I'm falling into depression again. I doodled with kids 2 days ago and it made me realise that drawing was the best painkiller, just like when I was a kid.
I drew yesterday, I've drawn today, I'm totally out of this world when it happens. I just don't know what to draw. I force myself to study anatomy but I don't know the point of it.
Since my tendinitis I can't play music and I'm forced to draw, I like it when it happens but I don't know what fuel my motivation. I wanted to be an artist but I feel kinda lost.

ps : It's over for Trump and that's a good thing.

>>5616509
Sometimes it's good to stop drawing, just to fill up your drawing juice
>>5616525
See art as a marathon, not a sprint. Nobody can't be a sprinter in art, there are just wery good marathoners.
>>5616561
>I hate that his animation is by far the worst and most horrendous in existence and yet pretentious faggots praise him like he's the god of animation.
Cool rant, forget him, study animation and be better than him. Anger drove me a lot in the art studies, I succeeded at some point.
>I really hope this chinkoid dies in a horrible way.
Well, I guess you're going nowhere with that mentality. Too bad.
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>>5616570
You’ll just bully them off the board. Translation: bored of bullying the regular shizos, need fresh meat.
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The art I post on an alt degen account looks exactly like my regular art. Idk how to make it different enough. I'm so fucking scared someone will find out eventually
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>>5616578
>I don't know what do draw

I know that anon. I don't watch cartoons, tv series or a lot of movies, so I can't even make fanart of anything. And when I want to paint something, I want to do too many things at once and end up doing nothing. Recently I've started to stop doing that and just paint what comes in my head, what I'm in the mood for. A subject that you find too simple or boring at first can become very interesting the more you work on it, add details, other elements, interesting light, etc. And sometimes an idea that sounds awesome in your head just becomes shit when you work on it.
If you don't know what to draw :
draw fanart, copy artists that you love and try to draw like them/in the ame style/same topics. just draw what comes naturally and find other ideas from it.
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How the fuck do you grow on Twitter? I started posting since april and even tried to befriend some big artists but even if I talk sometimes with them on discord they don't bother giving the Twitter follow at all and I've only gathered 235 followers those 5 months I've been there.
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>>5616807
draw good
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I have been feeling a bit stuck, sometimes i wonder if im practicing studying well or if it just a placebo, or feeling bad for drawing what i want instead of grinding, it pissed me off drawing and realise "fuck i already did this pose" or "already did this perspective" is annoying
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I struggle with with completing art works, I'll start literal hundreds of drawings, dozens of illustrations comics, even a couple animation loops but I don't ever fully execute. I'm hooked on the dopamine high of starting new images, doesn't hurt that I get likes on my half done works anyway.
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>>5616807
Don't even bother trying to get big artists to follow you on Twitter. Most big artists want to only follow either their friends, other artists with a lot of followers, or good artists. All you are is just one of their thousands of fans.

Just focus on becoming friends/mutuals with artists around your same skill level or follower level and improving. They'll be way more willing to RT your art. Also if you want quick exposure try to make fanart of the trending flavor of the month on twitter

>a new smash character or Nintendo game is released
>a really popular anime series starts airing new episodes (Jojo, AOT, Jujitsu Kaisen). That chainsaw man anime airing next year might supposedly get really popular
>Nostalgia bait (like Blues Clues trending rn)
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>>5616920
Alright, thanks for the help. I Just wanted to at least reach 2k or 3k as to begin with but I think It Is pretty impossible with my current skill level/subject matter to reach quickly. On another note, how do you find low followers artists on twitter looking to grow with similar interests to you?
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>>5616478
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>>5616478
>tfw very unfocused
>want to draw but not sure what to draw
>doodle a bunch of random shit, whatever comes to mind
>dont color/render any of it because feels like too much work and I suck at it
>got all the time in the world but cant make anything worthwhile
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>>5617104
Maybe to focus, you have to leave behind the idea of too much work and sucking.
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>>5616478
I have not been actually declined from any animation job I have applied for.

...because no one has ever replied to me at all. I get no decline, no response, no Thank you for your application, nothing.
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>>5617104
People like you need an outline or plan to get you to the end. Plan an entire piece into steps and then smaller steps.

Example:
1. Ideation
2. Reference
3. Sketch
4. Refined sketch
6. Color
7. Render
7. Finishing details
8. Completion

Then you can put steps for each on. Under reference, you can put "1940s children's storybooks" or whatever you want to do.
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Never really paid attention to Sakimichan and her copycats until now but today I looked for her pictures on Gelbooru because I was looking for that one Ishtar picture behind Vilppu, and dear god... I'm just appalled at the boomer coomers spending money on this garbage. I imagine she photobashes half of the picture and only draws half of it and copy-pastes the other half and adjusts with the liquify tool.

It totally is soulless concept art but for the coomer brain.
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>>5617204
Zumi is legit, and not a copycat. You're blind if you can't see the differences in their art.
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>>5617212
bruh
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>>5617212
Are you being facetious? Zumi is only "slightly" better than Sakimichan and she/he actually draws the picture instead of photobashing 70% of it.

I guess it's just not my cup of tea, people do seem to like it.
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>>5617104
>dont color/render any of it because feels like too much work and I suck at it
Shirahame Komome, the lady who made Witch Hat Atelier once said:
>"Take every sketch and doodle and render it in ink as if you were going to sell it as a book illustration or some kind of good (phone case, poster, print, etc...)"
The point being, even if you don't think your sketches are worthwhile, you should finish them anyways. You only learn how to finish drawings by finishing them.
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I gave up on my artistic dreams for a more financially rewarding job (web developer) that is now rapidly being replaced by AI.
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>>5617235
AI is doing web development now?
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>>5617279
Yep
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81rBzfbFLiE&ab_channel=TwoMinutePapers
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>>5616816
any more realistic options?
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I once inspired a 15 y/o girl to start making art. She's 19 now and already on a professional level. She bangs out like 6 perfect portraits a day. She's extremely driven with an insane work ethic. You'd think damn, she must be a one trick pony or take massive shortcuts. but no. She's good at literally everything you throw at her. Figures, landscapes portraits, environments, character design, hair, clothing, understanding perspective, form, composition, color, anatomy (male and female, sculpting, stylization, rendering, 3d modeling, digital and traditional. Her art is extremely diverse to a point I thought she was plagiarizing until I saw her actually making it. She knows her shit so well she barely has to undo her brush strokes. She mogs her well respected art teachers. She is so fucking talented I'm literally sure you know her art. And here I am. 30 years old, never going to reach that level. Holy fuck. I give up. This is just going to be hobby from now on. They say talent doesn't exist. I say fuck you. It does exist.
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>>5617308
You're only 30, dude. If she could do it in 4 years, you got 4 years too. You act like you're going to drop dead before that.
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>>5617298
No, literally. If you're not growing you're just shit tier. Only the best of the best will make it. You aren't one of them right now. Focus on getting the fuck better. Don't waste your time chasing twitter clout you probably will never get. Focus on your art. If you're good, growing your audience comes natural. Seriously.
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>>5617308
>still thinking in tems of "fubdies" at 30
Yeah, ngmi.
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I've been drawing for 2 months now, but the biggest hurdle, far more than any grinding, is that I impulsively hate anything that I've worked yesterday...or even a few hours ago.
I'd do a random sketch of something I have in mind, or throw a bunch of colors, and then when I return later it somehow just looks fucking ugly. Terribly wrong. "WTF IS THIS TRASH"
Such that the only 'work' ie /beg/trash that I've finished, only gets done if I can do it in a single sitting. So there's a whole bunch of halfdone sketches that I'd just cringe looking at even the thumbnail
am I eternally NGMI?
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This tracing debate has me feeling stupid every time I trace but I'd rather get the fucking body's outline done right in 30 minutes than spend a few hours being meticulous and shit. The "hurr tracing is bad" crowd is so annoying I swear.
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I don't really know why but it's almost like I'm scared of drawing. For some reason whenever I sit down I always do a few "sketches" and then immediately turn away from it. It's as if I'm intimidated or scared of this one thing and of course it's the thing I've been wanting to practice and get good at for years now. I read the books, I try to draw out the exercises, and for some reason I can't just keep doing the exercises. I always give up or scare myself out of drawing and dedicating myself to it. I know who and what the problem is but I have no idea how to approach it.

I wish I could move on, just ignore it or give up, but I don't think that's an option anymore. I'm a decent writer maybe even a career writer if I set my mind to practicing and studying it. But instead of just being happy with what I'm good at I keep coming back to drawing/painting and I keep failing. I've driven myself to tears after trying to draw; it's fucking pathetic. I really do feel like I'm going insane sometimes.

On top of it all the one sketch I managed to do and make """"decent"""" was done while I was high out of my mind. It makes me worry that I'm somehow so fucked in the head that the minimum discipline required for drawing is beyond my grasp.

Does any other anon have experience with these thoughts? How do I break this cycle?
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How can I make the drawing process more rewarding? People tell me that the reason I'm able to keep playing the same game for like eight hours straight is because the reward is constantly being dangled in front of you. You always have that carrot hanging from a stick. I want ideas of what I can use for the "carrot" when it comes to drawing so I can weaponize my autism and become the artist I want to be. The piece itself is a reward of course, but for some reason my brain doesn't realize that until the very end of my piece
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>>5617570
You know how in a game, you see multiple paths and wonder what's on the other side? Instead of actually going there, you draw what you think will be there will all your might, maybe the shiniest and toughest piece of armor or entire treasure chest of dubloons that'll last you until the next story arc. You get to be the decider of whatever amazing or boring thing you want there to be there that a game could either match up to or more. Just imagine the cool kinds of gear you can get in an event or by reaching near the end game. The cool stuff that actually has really great abilities with it instead of just being a gratified crown piece. Use that drive for the best reward to pull you and draw.
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>>5616478
I guess I'll participate here.

I am addicted to pencil brushes even though I want the more clean line art. Almost all my favorite artists, favorite art has clean line art.
But when I stroke with this pencil brush it just feels so good. Probably because it's easier to "fail" on strokes compared to finer lines.

Pic related.
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>>5617229
I believe you, but do you have a source for this quote? I'd like to hear more advice from that lady
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Drew again today, it wasn't much but once I got warmed up it was decent.
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I cant do it anymore. ive sacrificed everything, good careers, great opportunities, all trying to create beautiful art but im too stupid. ill never be intelligent enough to make anything worthwhile. ive poured every ounce of my energy and sacrificed everything to just become better than average, at best, and thats all ill ever be. not outright bad enough to just quit here and now. just barely teasing myself with just enough vague hope that ill live the rest of my life tortured chasing something that was never actually within reach.

im so utterly broken. art is all i care about and it has completely broken me. ive given up so many truly beautiful things trying to make something beautiful of my own and now i feel nothing at all.
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it's over when i die
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>>5617706
I'm a talentless ngmi too. But, what else is there to do? Pain is a natural by-product of living.
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>>5617368
That just means your eye is better than your hand. The opposite is loving your work and getting a fat head to the point you dunning krueger yourself and stop improving. You should be able to look at something you made last week and say "___ could have been done better"
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I'm still young but I feel like I wasted half my life already. I wasted so many years doing nothing because I was extremely depressed and couldn't be bothered to anything but lay in bed. I see people my age already with jobs, and good art. They are appreciated and people look at them in awe, while I am still here trying to learn how to draw basic things. It's so demotivating, I feel like if I just had someone to help me and push me back then I could have been a good artist by now.
God if I don't get good at art by 25 I'm killing myself. I have no other reason to stay alive.
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>Used to fap heaps to hentai and have heaps of 2D porn on pc
>Picked up drawing on a whim, wanted to try creating my own fantasies of cute girls getting violated
>Studied figure drawing, anatomy, feeling the form
>Seeing improvement
>...
>Can't fap to my stash of hentai anymore
>Seeing questionable anatomy everywhere
>Poor rendering
>When seeing artwork I like I start analysing the techniques used instead of getting horny
>Haven't fapped in a few months now
>Don't feel the need

Help I'm becoming desensitised to sexual stimuli
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>>5618032
What are you complaining about? This is actually good.
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>>5618032
>Help I'm becoming desensitised to sexual stimuli
this is how you make it as a coom artist
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>>5618028
this man didn't start until he was 29 and got gud in 5 years, stop putting young prodigies on a pedestal, suck it up the hell up and get to fucking work
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Fuck It, deleted my Twitter account finally. It bringed me more pain than joy and I am not going to make one to post art until I have strong enough fundamentals. I Just couldn't stop comparing myself to others and seeing my friends befriending the same big artists that ignore my existence is painful. Now I will just use Newgrounds as an art container.
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>Become obsessed with the work of another artist
>lose confidence and interest in drawing my own stuff
fuck!
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>>5617298
part of any fandoms?
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>>5618038
>>5618040
Fapping felt good, it feels weird not needing it for so long
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I just saw a shitty artist grow to 15k followers on twitter because he posts tomboys from time to time and this time he posted a photo of abs and coomers thought that it was him so he got like 30k likes on it
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>>5618028
>God if I don't get good at art by 25 I'm killing myself.
I know this mindset all too well.

It’s going to come like a lion and then you’ll up the age to 30 after a change of heart. Then if you don’t have what you want you’ll increase it to 35. But I sincerely doubt you’ll seppuku over drawing, but grow to accept art takes time.
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>>5617502
Alright dude, this is going to sound like retarded advice, especially the first part, but it kind of works for me when I'm having trouble making myself draw.

First I pull up something to motivate myself, get me actually started. I like reading art manga for this. I know it sounds counterintuitive, but often after reading one or two issues of the right series, I'm reminded of why I want to draw in the first place and I start itching to stop reading and draw instead. I know /ic/ tends to think otherwise, but I find positive motivation like this more effective than the stoic or self-loathing stuff. If you need recommendations, try Blue Period or Kakukaku Shikajika. Even if you don't normally read manga, try them out. They're unusually good, especially the latter. The former's not finished yet though.

Then once I start, I switch over to listening to something art related while I draw. If I try listening to something else (like RLM,) my mind starts to wander. Look for a good podcast or youtuber that makes for non-distracting listening. I like Steven Zapatta for this. Again, probably more hippie dippie than what /ic/ likes, but it works for me.

If it's really fear you feel when you try to draw, genuine paralysing disgust or shame, then your difficulties are likely above this boards paygrade. You can still do it, but this place won't help. Try these out though, you might be surprised.
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>second time going through Vilppu's lecture on the upper leg
>still don't get it
>my ability to draw the upper leg is actively getting worse
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>>5617633
>ive sacrificed everything, good careers, great opportunities, all trying to create beautiful art
Good, now keep going. You will be a great artist.
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>>5618046
Firez sucked ass when he started posting here.
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I used to use sankaku for images but I stopped. Then I remember it existed and went to it last night and instantly remembered their gay fucking spoilers news section at the top of the page. Not only that but they're locking images behind a paywall. Fuck sankaku.
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>>5617633
Sounds like you need to go on vacation and reset your mind. When you come back to art it'll feel great to jump right into the skill level that you're already at with a fresh world view.
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>>5616478
fuck taxes man
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>enjoy short animation shitposts on youtube (japanese cat thing)
>want to do some of my own
>start writing/storyboarding something
>every time it develops into some kind of story, several minute long
>unable to just commit to a single 20 second thing
Really sucks. I'm trying to force myself to not write more/flesh it out, but i keep doing it where i read over/change something to make it better, and then a few rewrites later its a whole 2-5 minute long thing.
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>>5618397
Their 3D booru is now filled to the brim with tranny shit, I had to start using -shemale -femboy to get rid of it but some still get through.
For 2D, I've never used them always used Gelbooru and a bit of Danbooru; nowadays I mostly go straight to the source on Pixiv and have all the artist I like added to my bookmarks.
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>>5617204
I heard she would prefer to draw other stuff like sexy men and the like, but coomer shit simply sells. Not surprised she just got sick of it and speeds up the work however she can.
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>>5617235
I wonder how all these technophiles are going to react when their own jobs ends up being taken by AI.
AI can learn to paint, but it might take sapience to be so fluid with it like humans.
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Why doesn’t /if/ make meetups like other boards? At least here it would be helpful because face to face drawing advice is more valuable than online one
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>>5616478
messed up my hands in a way that basiclly makes it i can do anything besides hold a pen/pencil and it sucks. been precticing sculpting with a mouse and 3d animating in the time but still want to hold a pencil again.
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>>5618568
Nice try crab you ain't shooting me and looting my ipad.
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>>5616528
damn, those caterpillars really like that frog.
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I’m going to have to hide this thread because the last thing I want is a reminder of the horrors of the past four years. Please be more considerate going forward, OP. This shit is very triggering to we latinx people.
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>>5618589
iPad don’t make people draw better
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>>5618568
If /ic/ is any indication, having some asshole yell at me about being NGMI and to read Loomis in person doesn’t sound all the helpful. Might be funny, though.
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>>5616478
To paraphrase Dr. Manhattan, "It's never over." There's always the next election.

But yeah, do some drawing in the meantime as the country burns.
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>>5618395
?? /ic/ helped someone? unpossible!
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>>5616478
>write script for comic
>like how it goes
>want to seal ship for two of the characters
>add somewhat hints that the characters are to be with each other
>start to cringe at what a intrusion of privacy i have wrote
>feel as if i peeked on someone naked tier awkwardness and violated their privacy visually
>contemplate if to tear apart that part of script
Anyone else feels this when trying to write a more intimate matter between two characters?
I really need an answer, don't want to waste paper for a fit.
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I don't want to create art just to prove someone wrong- and as much as possible i want my intentions to remain true to my vision and love of art, but the people who doubt me and wish my failure.. i really want to make them eat their words
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>>5618840
Same, it feels impure, but it is what it is. This world needs to eat its words.
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>>5618731
No they are fucking fictional characters that you invented. Get it together dude.
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>>5618861
Thanks
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>>5618861
People who make posts like this are NGMI by the way anyone who actually comes here and reads this. No creator acts like this.
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>>5618869
>demoralist poster
You got any experiences to make such huge claims about randoms on the internet?
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>>5618869
I can't tell if you are talking about the guy getting anxiety from his own fictional characters or the other guy replying to him.
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I suck. I suck really hard. I don't get better. I should just kill myself.
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>>5619006
post work faggot.
Also, how long you've been drawing for?
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>>5619006
Unless you are like 50 you are ok dude. Plenty of time. Take it day by day and draw on a schedule even when you don't feel like it because eventually you will crave it.
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>>5619066
I throw most of it into the dumpster because I hate it and hate me and hate my life. This is one that survived.
Drawing for 5 years.
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>>5619072
Heard of a guy in his 50 just picking a brush, and he was GMI.
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>>5619085
>only 5 years
Quit bitching.
Also get braver, your lines need to be cleaner and quit avoiding the arms. Head you can play around with size, same with breasts and hips. Think there was a book around that could help you.
Not fucking worth killing yourself.
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>>5619086
>just picking a brush
>GMI
Setting the bar this low
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>>5619091
Literally study Loomis.
It ain't bad, you can improve.
Morpho Simplified Forms Anatomy for Artists by Michel Lauricella
Try to study and to understand.
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>>5619072
Every fucking painting seems to get worse and worse and I can't into digital at all not even with a pad.

>>5619086
Yeah sure one day we will wake up and the hot pricess will rescue us from the castle or whatever.

>>5619087
>Also get braver
This might be something.

>>5619101
>Literally study Loomis.
Wasn't he just a meme?
>>5619101
>Morpho Simplified Forms Anatomy for Artists by Michel Lauricella
Why is it so hard to find decent sources for something like that? You can find any blockbuster within minutes but something which has acutall substance to is hiden beyond a bazzilion scam sites.
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>>5619091
>>5619136
If that example was after the 5 years it looks like you never opened a book or watched a video and actually sat down and studied.
I think you need to pretend you have never drawn before and approach it with an open mind but also some discipline.

Do the thing I see other /begs/ doing where they trace a drawing or photo ref and then draw without tracing and compare them. Then try to get more accurate with each one.

Then when you are getting accurate you can move on to trying to get it to look like an actual living person with gesture, structure, anatomy, light, color etc. But first get accurate and stop the short, repetitive strokes (chicken scratching).

And remember always balance study with exploration and stress free drawing where you just do what you want. Remember why you wanted to start drawing in the firest place. If you ever feel frustrated by studying, move on to a different exercise, a different book, a different video.
Don't be that dude doing gesture for 8 weeks and wondering why he isnt improving.
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>>5619136
Libgen for morpho and no, Loomis is not a meme, if he was his book wouldn't have been published, especially in his time.
Loomis's book requires grinding what he tells you there till you are familiar with his instructions, and even after you need to study other things to get good.
Art is about all live study, if you don't want that or find it a waste of time, go do something else, it's no crime. You could try pixel art maybe you'll like it more
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>>5619157
The advice which hits the hardest is most likely the one that will help you the most.
Thank you. I will cry myself to sleep now and start over tomorrow with new sources.
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>>5619176
Don't pick a pencil with the attitude of a defeated fish.
Take a break, enjoy life more, then when you want to start prepare yourself in case you are too hard with yourself for frustrations, but the wisest advice that even the most advanced would tell you is when you get something failed, look how to improve, try to fix it then move on, after you get a bit of familiarity if you want it to catch well onto you start working on pieces.
Art doesn't happen 100% magic and those to whom it does are rare, but that doesn't stop us the rest from trying to draw. Everyone got their own different pace and that's no crime, we ain't fighting in a contest here for some bullshit prize.
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>>5619184
HELLO SHINY KNIGHT!
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I bought an anti-fatigue board for my desk to stand at and it's the worst $69 I spent in my life. Definitely returning it when I get the chance.
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>>5619418
So it doesn't work? Damn. I was thinking those were cool too.
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>>5619085
>>5619091
Improvement happens when you challenge yourself. Look at your drawing. Why did you scratch each line instead of making one sweeping movement? Why did you leave the face blank? Why did you hide her arms and hands? Why did you not draw her feet? You avoid all these things because you're afraid of discomfort, but being discomforted from your current skill level is exactly what you want to happen. If you always stay in your comfort zone, you could draw every day for 50 years and still not improve.
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>open commissions
>Nobody comes
All the fucking time, what I am supposed to do at this point?
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>>5619925
draw coom
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>>5619925
When you post your own art just say it is a commission and say you are really busy but have some slots left.
Never seem like you have full commissions or no commissions, always look busy but available for the right price.
Try to get into D&D communities online for SFW commissions. Share your art and say its your character for a game and try to fish for people asking where you got the art and say you did it yourself and here's my twitter *smile*.
Post your art (with twitter handle in art and filename) in relevant threads on /tg/, /v/, /vg/. People always accuse artists of posting their own work so ignore anyone who replies with that.
Post sfw but still lewd art for twitter followers. People like following sexy stuff but they don't like following literal porn.
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>>5616478
>sit down to practice
>immediately check twitter/4chan instead

somebody just put a fucking bullet through my brain already
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I'm scared of drawing in public and around people I don't know already. It's pretty pathetic. I end up taking out my phone rather than my sketchbook in public just because it seems more "normal" than drawing
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>>5619432
maybe it's just something I need to ease into
I'll give it a week
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>>5618032
>>5618142
Taking a break from visual porn for a short bit can desensitize some.
Part of the 'appeal' of porn or some aspects of sex is that it is taboo or separate from 'normal life', but when you make it your whole life it becomes less exciting and new and more like a job. You notice less about big tiddies or dick or whatever instead of nitpicky stuff like technique because those big tiddies and dick seem gratuitous. Similar desensitization happens to everyone in the porn/sex industry, not just porn artists.
It helps if your sex drive is already low and you don't have an immediate need to look at more porn. Plus it's a good opportunity to flex your drawing skills on something else.
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Drew again today, I think I'm improving, albeit very slowly.
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I'm so lethargic and sleepy
I don't understand why, I iust feel constantly drained since a few days back...

I'm so close to finishing the comic too, just two more fucking pages and typesetting. FUCK.
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I have a problem on my dominant hand since saturday:basically it hurts when I my fingers are in a certain position.I experience the same thing with my other hand but it's less painfull.

Maybe the heavy objects I had to lift for work are the cause.
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How do you draw someone hyperventilating? Thanks.
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>Get interested in drawing due to manga
>At the age of 23, while working a full time job, with no talent
Why the FUCK couldn't I have been interested when I had all that time and art classes in school?
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>>5620302
if this is ur style pls post blog
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>>5619925
Skeb opened
People will now save up to have their fave Japanese artist draw for them. Even if it’s mediocre. So now small westies lose more commissions.
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>>5620354
Dw AI will take everyone's money away soon
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>>5620352
It's not
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>>5619925
Unironically post your work and prices. 99.99% of the people complaining about "no commission" or "no patreon/subscribestar bux" are legitimately terrible and have unrealistic prices.
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>>5620088
i find places where people are not close to me and draw that way since no one will trouble me that way and if someone tries to ,i can see them miles before they reach me so i can leave
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>>5620302
Same issue, but I have trouble going to sleep due to my stubborn expectations going on a nightly war at me every night with some stalking stress.
Want to start my comic, but I still waste too much time just to get the concept pages done, especially some angles of the head which is weird since I didn't have this problem trouble me before
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>>5620351
As long as your story is good, any style can do. Look at one punch man
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>>5620351
The more free time you have the less motivation you have to do anything with it.
The older you get the more shit you are suddenly gonna realise you want to do.
It's the cruelty of life.

Even young people that seem like they have it together are just doing what other people told them to do or expected them to do and will eventually have the same breakdown at some point in their life when they realise they haven't been deciding what to actually do.

>And you may find yourself
>Behind the wheel of a large automobile
>And you may find yourself in a beautiful house
>With a beautiful wife
>And you may ask yourself, well
>How did I get here?
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>>5620487
Nah i'm just hoping the urge passes
>>5620493
Life is such a bitch smfh
How does anyone die happy?
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>>5616478
>"I'll start drawing seriously when I'll finally live alone"
>start to live alone
>spend all free time playing vidya and shitposting.

>>5616807
Try drawing fanart and tag artists to get retweets by them, you're bound to get a few followers.
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>>5620811
Being alone is still not bad, it's only because you lack commitment. It's like telling someone you'll draw every day for a month or you'll pay them $100. Except you have to do that with yourself like, if you don't draw everyday for an hour or two, you won't play vidya for the entire day.
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>>5616478
>comeback from work
>too tired
>draw two lines
>eyes are shutting down
how to cope? I sleep.
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Since when did Amazon have overnight delivery? Jesus Christ those poor drivers.
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>>5620957
Amazon will unironically work it's employees to death in order to service their customers.
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>>5620957
Where do you think they're driving from?
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>>5620957
They always had it as far as I’m aware, but it’s not always available. I guess it depends on the hours, it still says it ships and moves during all the normal working hours if you watch the tracking. It’s more like the warehouse is just closer or something.
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>>5621039
the local warehouses have crazy inventory now. even free shipping usually shows up the next day where i'm at.
it's certainly not whatever insane thing anon was thinking.
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>>5621066
the item I was looking at said 4am delivery so idk
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>>5616478
Every time i try to read a tutorial book my mind always drift away and pays attention to everything but the shit im trying to learn is fucking annoying reeeeeee
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>>5621239
That's why you don't need to read, just look at stuff and draw.
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>>5617633
Your lines, rendering, and coloring capabilities are nice but you have very weak anatomy.
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>>5618568
There are literally only 3-5 people here that I would ever want talk to.
/ic/ has one of the worst userbases of all boards.
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Drew a bunch of sketches of a character and only one really captured what I wanted. The problem is that I can't figure out what it is about that one in particular that satisfies me. I can't duplicate what I did and now it mocks me.
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>>5620493
damn i was gonna post about how i just bought a house and dont feel any good emotions from it then i saw this post/song, good shit breh that actually helps a bit
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I've always dreamed of having my own house but I feel like if I pursue a career as an artist I'll never achieve that dream. I'd rather be a professional artist desu but I still feel sad that I might have to accept the loss of one dream for the other. There's just no way I can see any artist in the industry making enough to own a home in the country I live in, especially when most of these jobs require you to live in a city. Man....
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>>5621341
Depends on what industry you mean, entertainment industry makes money just fine
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I might regret my life choices later on when I start work in a prison.

What does this have to do with art? Absolutely nothing.

Haven't gotten the job yet but I'm starting to read on some famous inmates that I might come across.
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>>5621387
do you get to talk to them
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>>5621388
Not yet. If anything I'd get harassed on my first day.

The place is understaffed. As is all correctional facilities.
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>>5616478
I doesn't matter how well i color or how good the anatomy is. If the line art looks like shit, the whole piece does too. This shit is the worst.
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>>5616478
My master plan of gaining a following with cum art then switching over to sfw is not working. what should i do?

Is September always a shitty month?
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>>5621421
>My master plan of gaining a following with cum art then switching over to sfw is not working
Another one that fell for "le coom art" meme, if your style is unapealing/uninteresting nobody will give a shit unless you draw some obscure fetish but again you will only attract those degenerates that will only follow you for that
>what should i do?
Get gud, literally thats all you have to do, read your loomis
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>>5620236
I had crazy sexual fantasies before I started learning to draw, it's like I traded in imagination for technique, people say that story trumps technique, did I fuck myself by rushing things?
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>>5620302
Get sensible sleep schedule
Have a lighter diet.
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>>5616578
> just don't know what to draw
I feel the exact same way, I need an idea some coherent concept. I want to make a graphic novel.but I just just suck (or feel like it) at conceptualising a story.
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>anons ask for blog
>say I don't have one
>I do
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>>5621661
stating obvious first: writing and drawing are two completely different skills.
You probably have some grand and disjointed ideas on what to do but have no idea how to streamline it. What you try is to do something similar to those ideas scaled down to as small as possible and toy around with that. Or lookup works similar to what you want to do and try to figure out why things are did the way they are there, and think how would you twist them and where would that lead.
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>>5616478
Even when I know a drawing is "good" im still feel hesitant to post it on the internet, i feel extremely anxious
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>quit caffeine two weeks ago because it makes my thoughts too speedy to focus
>sleep 14 hours a day and still feel dog tired when I'm awake
>barely managing to eke out some lazy gestures so I don't get rusty
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>>5621767
exercise in the morning, even just walking for an hour or something
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>>5621776
>read walking as wanking
I need that regular sleep schedule too.
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People are disgusting and I wish nothing but suffering upon them.
I will not change this view, not even for my own benefit. They deserve my hatred far too much for me to change my mind.
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>Boss texts our work groupchat that we're going to be working 12 hour shifts for rest of the week
>Instead of being pissed because I don't have time to draw, I actually feel relieved because I don't have to feel guilty about not drawing
Holy fucking shit I hate this mindset of mine
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I feel great today.
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Social media gives me so much fucking anxiety. It makes me depressed seeing everyone surpassing me in both skill and numbers. I want to quit but I need the money from commissions

I just wanna draw what I want
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>>5622010
>makes me depressed seeing everyone surpassing me in both skill and numbers
>I just wanna draw what I want
You just wanna draw what you want AND OTHER PEOPLE TO CONSUME IT.
So you draw what you DON'T want, and still can't amount anything?
git gud
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>see something interesting on chins
>wanna sketch it
>but cannot just look at it and draw, have to make screenshot and turn into layer in drawing program to be able to observe it comfortably
ree
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>>5616478
i've been drawing seriously for 2 years and have gotten to a beginner-ish /int/ level. now i feel a bit lost. i'm not sure if it's my knowledge or my draftsmanship that's lacking, but it's almost as if something is stopping me from going forward mentally. it's not even like my art is not improving. it just *feels* stagnant. i got 2k followers on twitter and it's been increasing exponentially every time i post but i feel bad when it's work i'm not particularly proud of.
i'd be happy to hear some anon's perspective on this. i'm sure i'll get over it, i just need to figure out how.
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>>5620436
https://twitter.com/SanosukeKenshi1/status/1435896340605771779
Here, prices might be a big high probably for my skills but I need to get money tho
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>>5622057
>https://twitter.com/SanosukeKenshi1/status/1435896340605771779
so ye your problem is prices too high for the level of art you offer, even the first response is someone saying they dont have the money so they just gonna retweet

a quick example is 25 bucks for a sketch each character, if you did 25 + 10 each additional character in a scene would be for attractive for clients

or for your skill 15 + 10 or 5 for the sketch but you do wtv you want im just throwing out ideas
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>>5622082
>15 + 10 or 5 for the sketch
That's legitimally pretty fucking low in general, if my skill are really that bad then at this point it's better not doing any until I am good enough....
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I feel great when sketching and trying new technique, but when it comes to making a complete image I suddenly hate everything cant finish anything
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what is the science of the universe where you look at a word or say a word and the song says the same exact word in perfect unison?
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>>5616807
>Twitter
Unfortunately if you're below thousand its the worst shit ever and boils down on connections and marketing.
And said connections are real stinker to gain, you have to actually research each big content creators; then guess if they're willing or not.
This is also requires investing your time and money
>Spend your time on their socials/servers
>Buying their product/being a patron
>Drawing for them; heavily depends on skill
>Being a sociable person

My own experience was around total 18 months of failures, ignorance, wasted time on drawing for someone else
I know big number follows big number, but in my perspective back then was very painful and depressing looking at them just instantly be mutuals.
There were times big content creator invites people to draw their OC and I put real effort to be ignored.
Anyway my effort weren't in vain, someone actually had faith in me [Mostly because same niche interest and we experienced similar pains]
The guy had 30k followers back then. I had whole fucking 15, fifteen.


I havent talked shit about >skills but thats because you're specifically saying TWITTER.
Too much idols discord server and their quality tells me, their numbers are simply gained from clouts and marketing.
Skill still helps though, I don't think I'll get lucky that FAST with shit skills.
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>>5617323
That's unfair, massive retard.
Why do NPCs feel entitled to free professional art?
They don't want to waste a dime or donate but they feel entitled to super fantastic drawings?
Isn't this fucked up?

And if that wasn't enough, they feel entitled to whine whenever some art won't pander their requirements.


Art was always bullshit, nowadays it has worsened, no point in artfagging anymore.
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>>5616478
I'm bad at drawing and worry i will never get better
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>>5622174
Don't worry.
You will never be good.
Just look at the improvement threads.
If you have been in the same amount of time and still you draw like shit, it means you have to give up.

Not being offensive but it's how things are...
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>>5622174
Give up and come back to it a year later. You need to reset your bad habits and the only way to do that is to forget how to draw. In the meantime pick up something else, like knitting.
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>>5622179
Is this actually something people do?
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>>5622179
I gave up and began playing videogames again.
I am not going to be beg in any other hobby.
And besides gaming fills anyone with adrenaline and it makes you happy, unlike drawing which is torturing yourself only to be bashed by other anons.

Art is cancer, is unrewarding if you are not talented or you dont have jeans, it's all grind and hardwork for nothing.


You can be on this for many years, convince yourself that you will eventually git gud if you grit trough hardwork and mind your practice, but what does even mean when you didn't have what it takes since the beginning.

If you know you suck since the first months, you should stop.
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>>5622184
Truth
You know idm when beglets cope and say they'll make it one day but it truly boils my blood when talented people think everyone else is like them and berate people as not trying hard enough
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>>5622178
>you will never be good
say sike right now
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>>5622184
>I gave up and began playing videogames again.
Yeah but I mean if you're gonna play video games with your time at least try to be damn good at it.
>>5622183
idk maybe
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>>5622194
sike
yes you fucking will anon
get out of this goddamn board now and go draw. some random faggot in the internet believes in you unironically
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>>5622193
What's infuriating it's that they will keep bashing at begs and blaming at them or saying that they are lazy or they haven't practiced enough.
Or heck, they even come with the "useless practice" "you have been studying wrong".

And they just assume the worst, they think that people who won't improve are lazy fags who draw for 1.5 min a month or they are mentally impaired.


It's like the rich blaming the poor for its poverty.

>>5622195
>Yeah but I mean if you're gonna play video games with your time at least try to be damn good at it.

Not only I am good at them, it brings joy like you don't imagine, you can be happy with your drawings and grind for 50+ hours, but apparently, that isn't enough.


Friendly reminder that grinding 50+ hours in art doesn't dish any gain.
But you grind on any videogame for 50 hours, you are OP basically.
Let alone spend a lifetime on it.

It will gives you big gains.

Spending your life and money on something you haven't seen result is pointless.
it's like playing russian roulette
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>I'm so glad *cough* *cough* that I spent my short life playing video ga-
RISE AND GRIND, FAGGOT
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>>5622208
Yeah wish they would accept that they're just better, they should be proud ffs.
>Friendly reminder that grinding 50+ hours in art doesn't dish any gain.
>But you grind on any videogame for 50 hours, you are OP basically.
Damn when you put it like that...that's brutal
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>>5622208
video games sounds like a nice option but i know i will feel like shit once i hit 23, 27 or maybe 30. I will feel like i wasted time doing something i can't show to friends or truly be happy from achieving something that took effort. The video game option personally would leave me feeling hollow but at the same time I'm not sure if I'm going to achieve anything from drawing and end up feeling just as ass as if i had never tried to begin with and grown to regret it.
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>>5622208
>Friendly reminder that grinding 50+ hours in art doesn't dish any gain.

The problem with learning art is there just is either a lot of disinformation or too much information that (while good) is also meant to keep the learner eternally /beg/ and dependent on new installments of gumroad lessons. Whereas with video games people genuinely want you to be good at the game by sharing what they know and you know if the tips are bullshit or not because results show quickly. Drawing by far is the greatest gatekeeping, carrot on the stick hobby by far.


No promises but when I finally get to a place I'm satisfied with I'll make sure to make a path and gut away the bullshit that is learning to draw.
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>>5622233
Do drawings for you, not for others.
Do not thinking of getting into the industry or being an indie artist.
Have you seen social media?
Bloated with surplus artists that are growing in their art careers, leaving behind new bloomers and hoarding clusters of followers.

It's insane, at the end of the day, drawing for yourself is like that, playing a videogame, no recognition and bound to be forgotten the day you die.
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>>5622245
>Bloated with surplus artists
*surplus professional artists, kek, not begs.
Npc will follow pro artists like a dog following his owner and forget newbies.

Ouch it hurts...

(People who artfag like to ignore this fact)
(And also, have I mentioned the fact that there are amazing pro artists who still don't get recognition)


Jesus, art is worse than cancer, heck, cancer is better.

Bro, even if you treat it as a hobby or you love it, it, just hurts, you need to be pretty masochistic...
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>>5622245
The problem is you can enjoy a videogame without being good at it. Also improvement comes so quick you can feel and it's rewarding.
Drawing something and having it suck doesn't make you feel good at all. And you can't feel the skill progression because it's so slow.
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>>5622027
I need their money
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I'm bad with coming up with poses. But all those reference sites are a time waster. But when I say fuck it and draw a pose, its wrong.
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>>5622183
People give up and lie to themselves all the time, yes.
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>>5622208
>Friendly reminder that grinding 50+ hours in art doesn't dish any gain.
>But you grind on any videogame for 50 hours, you are OP basically.
unironically comparing a vocation to entertainment products designed to please mass audiences. goddamn you people are so fucked in the head.
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>>5622254
The solution to that is instead of treating it like you need to feel the gains right away just do the action. Just treat it as a thing 'you do' to replace a shit engrained habit that's self-destructive. Don't even think about that you're drawing for results as long as you're doing the right steps, and the steps are legit, it's fine.

And with time (and as a consequence) you'll one day magically be able to make pictures. But if you go in and immediately treat drawing gains like video game gains you'll think this way.
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>>5622263
Art never becomes a profitable skill for 99%+ of grinders.
Meanwhile mediocre esporters and low level streamers make more.
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Found out that I could be shit with my line work so long as my colors are decent (coom artist, people don't give a shit how it looks so long as they can coom to it.), effectively cutting my time in half for art. I'm about to see how much further I can push that since I'd rather just render idea after idea instead of spending 4 hours on a single drawing. I guess the vent for this is that it took me 9 years of struggling to slowly improve my ability to draw just to say "fuck it".

Something I can vent about is that there are no good gallery sites these days for artists. Newgrounds, Artstation, Hentaifoundry, they lack a charm that Deviantart had before it became a fucked up place for retards and their fetishes. And every single webcomic I used to read except for Incase's Alfie has fucking died, and that's ending soon. My friend says I'm crazy and that the art community is bigger than ever, but it doesn't fucking feel like it unless there's a site I haven't seen yet. All this really boils down to is that I'm gonna invest in making a website just for me and shilling it on my twitter and other places.

It could just be me having a secret resentment for not trying hard enough and getting an industry job (which seems like hell to work in.). But I just like drawing cartoon characters and naked people too much to wanna quit. I do feel like I'm on the edge of going from a smalltime artist to a good artist. I plan on doing studies this week to improve the horniness in my art, so hopefully that'll awaken both me and an audience waiting for this work to exist.
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>>5622245
i never wanted to be a big artist i just wanted to be good enough to show friends, maybe have around 300 or so twitter followers and id be happy
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>>5622254
i started getting that hollow feeling with video games at age 16. As of now i will only play games if i have friends to joke around on with.
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>>5622266
you seriously think the twitch economy is bigger than all art jobs? or you don't want to make art if you can't be a celebrity? lmfao
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>>5622264
Eh why would I do "a thing" that makes me feel bad if i'm bad at it?
Humans naturally don't like ugly things.
>>5622279
Everything is always better with friends :)
>>5622280
No i'm saying it's easier to make money with games versus art for an untalented person, there's several factors here do the math
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>>5622284
Why are you still on this board? Why not go to /v/ or /r9k/. Both those boards would probably agree with your mindset more
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>>5622284
>it's easier to make money with games
bro you've named like the only "career" guaranteed to make you money.
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>>5622288
This is the /vent/ thread you sperg it's the designated whine area
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>>5622184
Bro, you only need a day or two to reset. You've been posting the same pictures over and over again for the attention. You to change your mindset. I told you this last time but you don't listen.
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I just started really trying to improve. I like drawing but I dont know where to start to improve.
Like start at gesture, anatomy, shapes, values? idk i feel like im lost in a sea
/beg/ also feels demoralizing as the posts there are leagues ahead of anything I can make.
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>>5622308
we can be art friends
I can help you
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>>5622307
anon, he isn't the same permabeg who made that, is a troll LARPING as him.
Dunno the reason of it tho.
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>>5616478
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>>5622292
Anything else other than art makes money.
Art is a waste of time and artfags are retards.
Facts.
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>>5622342
Games need good art to sell.
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>>5622323
how
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>>5622347
Of course, if you are a talented god of art with asian hyperjeans like Akihito Yoshitomi, have you seen his /beg/ days artwork?
Nothing to compare with your average /beg/.
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>>5622348
I am nice :-]
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>>5622352
I mean how are we gonna communicate. Im not looking to get groomed again
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>>5622351
I understand it's your way of saying "just hire someone", but I have heard some stories about artists just causing drama or doing shit like with cloud meadow.
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>>5622330
Thanks, I had my suspicions.
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>>5622294
For people that draw. You don't draw
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>>5621956
>12 hour shifts for rest of the week
Is that even legal?
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>>5622487
Normal for people in hospitals and people who are first responders like officers and firefighters.

There's even mandatory overtime in some areas with severe lack of first responders.
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>>5622487
Not him, but they will nudge that 12h so that it's just slightly under 12h with a break so that it is legal.
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>>5618568
this nigga wants an /ic/ gf
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>>5622233
>video games sounds like a nice option but i know i will feel like shit once i hit 23, 27 or maybe 30. I will feel like i wasted time doing something i can't show to friends or truly be happy from achieving something that took effort
Can confirm. 28, and feel this way every time I spent all day playing a game instead of drawing. I rather slave at art because I can get something out of it, games is mentally ill children activity. I love games, but as an adult it's objectively a waste of productivity. Unless you're part of esport culture you're actively no different from the mentally ill retard making art for free. People will PAY you for this shit, no one will for games unless it's a community of autism brought together to make it happen in the first place.
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>>5621421
>File name
Oh god...
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>>5622657
>games is mentally ill children activity
I am mentally ill so games are fine for me.
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>>5622657
>Unless you're part of esport culture you're actively no different from the mentally ill retard making art for free
Dude, if you are not a /pro/ you are drawing for free.

Do you think /begs/ and /ints/ get paid?
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>>5622715
>Do you think /begs/ and /ints/ get paid?
You know what's gonna happen next, right? Some 3rd wolder is gonna respond to you and say they do get paid with their /int/ art and that $100 USD pays 2 months mortgage in their shithole country. Speaking of which, the only reason why they aren't into video games in the first place is because they can't afford a system to run them. They have no choice. You're arguing with trees here.
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>>5622727
>You're arguing with trees here.
Nah, I am arguing with the void on an egyptian shoe making board.
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>>5622715
>Dude, if you are not a /pro/
Myth. Leave 4chan and you'll see mediocre ass artists still gets money from their shit even more than pros, because they are cheaper. Unlike with furries coomers don't have money to spend on pro art. That's why every commission work I see looks worse then the pros who only waste their time with art because they are still passivate to draw for fun. Everyone ITT keeps saying they do shit with friends now and I'm 100% sure th pros have discords to mingle with friends while the shit coomer artists do it for easy money.
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>>5622733
See? >>5622750
Like clockwork. No working adult in the states is gonna come home after a long day slaving at the office for Wineberg to work on $10 commissions that can't even buy gasoline for their commute tomorrow. The only people who benefit are kids or people from India.
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>>5622760
>The only people who benefit are kids or people from India.
That and NEETs who live off the government.
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>>5622765
Why what's the point? You're making more on government handouts than trying to compete with Rebecca and her sparkledog chibi market. You'd make more panhandling on the side of a busy street.
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>>5622760
>No working adult in the states is gonna come home after a long day slaving at the office for Wineberg to work on $10 commissions that can't even buy gasoline for their commute tomorrow.
If you're working you shouldn't be playing games OR drawing for money. Like what the fuck my dude. You draw for payment because it replaces slave labor by some white jew that keeps you in a grey deathtrap while he's out on the golf field next to his mansion.

Animation is so underused for free money it's pathetic honestly. But I already said if you're in the mental stay you need to be a millionire instead of normal then you're setting yourself up for disaster in the first place, and a normal life using the right strategies with art is not only possible, but easy if you know how to market to people

That's where /ic/tards fail at, business. No one here can make money like a businessman can. How do you think playing basketball in the NBA makes you millions? Not by playing basketball . It's by having a guy do the business work for you.
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>>5622773
>You're making more on government handouts than trying to compete with Rebecca and her sparkledog chibi market
there really is no point to working in america if you make under $45k (or under $60k in a major city). at the "poverty level" the govt will pay your housing, health insurance, and give you food stamps and you'll live much better than anyone doing 40hrs a week at some wageslave job
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>>5622184
>Art is cancer, is unrewarding if you are not talented or you dont have jeans, it's all grind and hardwork for nothing.

I could say the same for certains multiplayer games.

What do you mean by talent btw?
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>>5622789
>at the "poverty level" the govt will pay your housing
Wake up next morning and your shit is gone.
>health insurance
let me find the worst provider in your area to put your life in their hands because you can't afford a premium doctor
>food stamps
Thankyou for shopping at dollar tree where our off-brand items will put you in the grave faster.
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>>5622795
>What do you mean by talent btw?
Something begs lack.
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>>5622053
Broaden your artistic horizons if you've been focusing on just one thing. I'll go out on a limb and suppose you've only been practicing figure drawing and faces until now, yes? If true then learn perspective too, focus on designing costumes for a while, design creatures, design plants, conceptualize vehicles, weapons. What you need is something to wrap it all together, to have a REASON to draw all of that, and that is worldbuilding. My desire to flesh out my very own little world has been my greatest drawing inspiration as of yet. Fleshing out your own world may serve the same purpose for you too, if you're even into that sort of thing that is
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>>5622808
lmaooo, what year do you think we're in? 1980?

>Wake up next morning and your shit is gone.
sure, if you live in the ghetto to begin with or choose a shitty place to live. the govt doesn't forcibly place you in the projects, grandpa
>let me find the worst provider in your area to put your life in their hands because you can't afford a premium doctor
wrong again:
>"70% of all office-based physicians accept new Medicaid patients, including two-thirds of primary care physicians and close to three-quarters (72%) of specialists."
>Thankyou for shopping at dollar tree where our off-brand items will put you in the grave faster.
virtually all grocery stores in america accept food stamps, including whole foods. the govt basically gives people a debit card with money loaded on it that you can spend on anything accept liquor. amazon will even deliver groceries to food stamp recipients
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>>5622876
So you're telling me as a single male I can get free housing, free health care, free gibs for food that is accepted through Amazon this whole time and I don't have to work all in a nice area? Bull. It either doesn't exist or it does exist but you'll be among the last on the waiting list to get a place.
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>>5622899
you'll most likely wait for housing as the govt puts immigrants, 'refugees', and single moms on the priority list, but medical care and food stamps can be applied for online and approved within days. most of the qualification rules have been suspended due to corona so you don't even have to work anymore to get those two.
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>>5622909
Yeah I'm not surprised about the food/health, it's the housing situation. You can qualify but by the time you get it we'll all be living in pods eating bugs anyway.
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THERE IS NOTHING in all the world more beautiful or significant of the laws of the universe than the nude human body. In fact it is not only among the artists but among all people that a greater appreciation and respected for the human body should develop. When we respect the nude we will no longer have any shame about it.
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>hmm maybe I should clean my tablet glove
>clean it
>huion symbol comes out
Welp, guess I did it too strongly
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>>5623091
Now nobody will know it was a name brand glove.
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>>5622208
Tbf drawing is kind of an esoteric task, even if you managed to finally understand something (in my case gesture) when you try yo explain that to a /beg/ they wouldnt understand, why? Not because they are retarded but because they dont have parts of the knowledge you did had but didnt realized so basically for understanding a concept you have to understand some other concepts that gives you the key to learn the shit you are actually trying to understand, basically is a spiderweb of concepts that if you lack one is probably you wouldnt understand the others, and is probably that years later you realized what it actually meaned because you studied other thing seemingly non related, so yeah is kind of a mess of everything you basically have to figure out and connect the dots by yourself.
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>>5622649
actually I want is a cute /ic/ bf
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>>5622649
>tfw no 3/10 fujoshi gf
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>>5623583
how big are your hands?
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On one hand work draining my energy and time is pretty miserable, but it also means I don't feel the pressure of getting good quickly so I can do something with my art. Maybe I could use a fire under my ass but I think the stress of trying to get to pro would kill me.
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>artist posts something
>be tomorrow
>same artist posts: "wow, thanks for 2k followers!!!"
>was previously only 700 followers prior
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>>5616807
>235 followers those 5 months I've been there.
Faggot.
From where I'm standing of 34 followers after 2 YEARS, that's a goddamn miracle.

Finding any relevant communities or like-minded people on that unholy shitbox of a website is impossible with its atrocious search function. The website primes you into chasing big names, making a concentrated effort to obscure anyone under 500, ergo leaving them impossible to find. This, therefor, encourages one to be a manipulative liar and hitch rides on comments(because posting too many tweets will actually get you search banned :^))))), giving empty flattery to more popular people in hopes they notice you, or shamelessly plugging everywhere even in places it isn't wanted.

You could get thousands easily if you just arbitrarily say nice things, in spite of your own feelings, but searching for anything genuine may as well be a Sisyphean feat. I'm not looking for numbers like a circlejerk of fratboys trying to out-flex one another, I'm looking for people actually interested. So far, I've found none on Twitter - everyone who cares has been found elsewhere.
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>>5623609
literally just find something you're interested in and draw that. an artist I know who now has tens of thousands of followers started off by using twitter tags for touhou stuff and that's a part of how they got to where they are today
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I've been stuck on learning how to draw eyes and eyebrows for fucking weeks now.
The eyebrows especially fucking throw me off, and I can't figure out the right shapes to draw that looks right and feels natural to me. Every fucking tutorial I watch about how to draw eyes they just KNOW how to draw the structure and I end up feeling like I haven't learned anything at all. Sure I'm punishing myself but getting the hardest stuff out of the way first but I got so frustrated with not being able to understand how to draw the structure that I almost started crying the last time I sat down to practice.
And I STILL can't fucking find any good help.
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>>5623612
>>5623609
should also mention not to be afraid of using twitter tags, literally fucking no one will know you exist if you just post art without utilizing tags, especially if you have an abysmal number of followers.
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>>5623612
I do draw the things I like. The big issue is that almost none of it is fanart, and even the few bits of fanart I've done didn't really do any better or worse than usual stuff. There are things I like, but none of them so much that I'm compelled to put in days of work to make a fanart picture of it. All that time and energy goes into focusing on original stuff I've been working at for around a decade now; that is my entire purpose for doing art in the first place, to create something I wanted which otherwise did not fully exist. It's not about the process for me, but about the product. It's not even about making money from it, for even my books sell for peanuts. I just hate feeling so goddamn invisible, and like I'm alone in the things I like. Surely I can't be...right?

So I'm well aware at least a good chunk of my problems are due to the exact solution you propose - being myself by just drawing the things I like. I even give out free requests every now and then just to be nice, and almost no one takes the offer. It's the definition of a bootstraps effort, getting to the point I'm considering paying for advertisement with what little money I have. Done griping for now; I gotta get back to work on yet another picture that'll take days to finish only to receive a thunderous absence of applause just like all the rest.
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>>5623657
>It's not even about making money from it, for even my books sell for peanuts. I just hate feeling so goddamn invisible, and like I'm alone in the things I like.
If you're not making art with the intent to sell, why do you care so much about visibility?
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>>5623614
When this happens I just know myself better and try to understand another subject. You're stressing yourself over it, and maybe you could learn something else that will help you with this topic when you come back
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>>5623709
What's the point in being a king if your castle is empty? I just want to feel like the things I make are appreciated/not feel so lonely in liking the things I do. What point is there in putting in all this effort if there's no around to see it? A sort of "I have no mouth and I must scream" feeling.
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>>5623601
>Follow a small account bc it's similar to mine
>New post
>+3k followers
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>>5623781
>endlessly worrying about followers
Just stop. This shit is not that serious.
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>>5623781
+XXXk follower is not necessarily just because the artist made a post. He might have had a quest appearance on somewhere, or made posts on multiple sites that ended up with him getting numbers, or his art was highlighted somewhere. Or he just bought some. Don't take the numbers at face value.
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>>5616478
guys i'm new here but when the FUCK did this board get created has it been awhile? i've been on this fucking website since 2007 and dont remember ever seeing this shit but i like art and shit and watch great art explained on youtube
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>>5617308
Post art, maybe you are just overreacting pal
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>>5622855
i imagined something like this would be the reason
i definitely have been neglecting some things
thank you anon
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>>5623817
She definitely just had good art and got discovered
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>>5616478
I'm drawing at least 6 hours on the weekdays and 2 on weekends cause I work part time. But I never feel like it's enough, like there's always something more I could be doing. It's like the feeling of someone watching you, but it's something that flies by you at the speed of light. Something missed or lost that can never return, and it's unknowable. Very bizarre feeling. It's like I can see the golden path but it's behind a wall of unbelievably thick frosted glass, I have to make a path through this solid matter and I don't know how. Some kind of magic or trickery, and if I do make it there I may not ever recognize I made it through. I guess all I can do is travel on this path I'm on and pick up clues, maybe there will be a door eventually. It's all such a mystery.
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>>5624001
Do project based learning where you try to do something you don't think you are ready for.
Like reading a sci fi or fantasy book that hasnt been adapted for movie/tv/anime and selecting a scene and designing all of the characters, environments, props and making a portfolio out of it.
And give yourself a tight deadline.
When you finish, review what you did well, what you did bad.

Then do it again with a different book but with a plan to improve on the previous one.
Learning for the sake of learning doesn't really get you ready for any kind of paid work so you should try to simulate "learning on the job" without actually working.
Key part is the deadline and having the discipline to treat it seriously.
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On the last PGL, Sam Hyde and Nick answered to some fan letter about drawing (porn) commissions.He didn't say anything new to me, but hearing him say how there's no money to be made in illustration as it is a worthless endeavor hit me different.
>"These people have this fictitious idea of this economy they created by doing 40 or 60$ commissions"
>" wow you are charging 40$ for an image that takes you what? 4 days to make? get real"
>if you are not making 200$ a week you are not making any money.
> Nick said" you need to be charging 35$ an hour at least"

They are 100% right. I'm in University for something else and I only do coomer commissions as a part time. I couldn't/ wouldn't get any other real life part time job because none are this flexible. I can take commissions when I want, decline them when I want and work on them when I want and I have no expenses with it,ie don't have to drive anywhere. Still made me feel that I'm not getting paid enough for something that is of good quality. I make between 200-400€ a month, which in my country is alright, as the minimum wage is around 600€ a month( for a 9-5 job lol) so I think my coomer gigs are actually ok as I only do it as a flexible part time. I know this girl that serves tables for 3€ an hour, so yeah, I guess I could be doing worse.
By the same token I know dumb women from HS that work as graphic designers and are paid 800€ a month to do graphic design, which is fuck all, they are doing fuck all.

Anyway, Sam made me think about these things, and yeah if you want to make money do something else.
>>5617204
Don't feel bad bro. The souless hacks like Sakimichan, Ross Tran(ny) and Maciej Kuciara only do it for shekels. Don't blame them. But their works is literally dogshit. I don't know who looks at this shit and is amazed by it.

>>5617221
pls stfu, there are literally 100's of copycats of her. Just stating a fact.
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>>5624052
>Still made me feel that I'm not getting paid enough for something that is of good quality
Post art, I want to see

I made about 200-300 a week drawing smut, I could do more but I like to play videogames and masturbate and those take time
On a week that I was OUT of games 100% mad work focused I made like 12 commissions and got like 1k
I'll take less for a more relaxed lifestyle.
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>>5617308
This isn't talent, it's just the magic of receiving validation.
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>>5624052
i mean if you live a country with a currency worth less than dollar or euro, then 40 dollar commissions isnt that bad

but if you live in NA or euro using EU country, yeah low price comms arent worth it unless you are /beg/ and cant get better prices for lack of quality
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>>5617633
I don't like your drawing but I'm in the same spot. I've given up everything else in life and looked past every single opportunity I could have had in order to chase art but I realized the environment is way too harsh, I hate social media, I don't like it as a career, I don't like what you have to draw to actually sell anything, I don't like the internet public.
I've worked hard but it was pointless because I wasn't drawing the right things, and I never took care of the "marketing" side because I don't like social media and I hate the average artist type who's nothing but a clout chaser. I've spent years and years dedicating my entire life to something I wasn't remotely fit for. Now I am dead weight with nothing to speak of in my resume for the last 10 years. I won't even get hired to work in the Amazon warehouse that opened up near here.
I haven't drawn much if I could say at all in the last 2 years and my skills have degraded, I'm the shame of my family. I'm starting to plunge into alcoholism, I sleep my days away. Every single day I think about suicide. I went all in and lost and there's nothing else I can do. It couldn't have been any other way because art was the only thing that made me happy, so no matter what I do I'll be always unhappy. I'm so fucking angry and bitter all the time, I am so tired.
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>>5624052
Hey this is a pretty cute dva
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>>5624071
to be clear, I'm not saying my shit is good and I deserve more money. I just don't think it's beg tier.
that's pretty good man.So you actually turn down commissions?
To be honest I would grind hard af if I could land more commissions. I'm very diligent when it comes to work and I like getting money.
Clients are very often surprised that I don't have a line for slots.

>>5624089
I'm doing 60-70€ cheaper stuff like pinups which are rather quick and easy to make and people seem to like them, but I'm also doing more costly like bigger scenes and comic pages, which are 200-300 a piece.
I definitely try to keep it around 10/15 € an hour, which is way above the minimum wage here, which is around 5€. So I think my concern is advertising my work so I get more requests.
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>>5624158
>So you actually turn down commissions?
More than turning them down I just kick them for the next week, I have 5-6 slots per week, but of those I do two comic pages that take me two days more or less. So I have three days to work on 3-4 not-so-long coms, and I don't draw on weekends.
I also don't color because I suck at it, it's all lineart
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>>5620352

It's a draw from Kabi Nagata
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>>5624229
post art pls
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>Finally decide to post art
>find coincidences again
>paranoid that some faggot will try to claim that i copied one of those popular fags or claim i got inspo from them instead of my real inspo which barelly resembles my work
Such moments are such an annoyance since I do not understand what I should get from them.
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>>5624328
What's it like to live a life of paranoia 24/7?
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I'm so tired. I recently accepted a deal to draw a picture per month for client, I have to work on a 20-pages comics for another client and I also know a couple of guys who are constanly coming up with ideas for new commissions. And like that wasn't enough, my university will start a new "mini-semester" soon. If I'm not working on somebody else's project, I'm studying some bullshit subject.
The worst part is, an old "client" just sent me a script for a sequel to a project that we worked on some time ago. A script for a 56-page comic! Holy shit! I mean, the first part was only 10 pages long. He didn't even pay me for those 10 pages because he thought the comics was just a funking request (obviously, that was partly my fault). I want to tell him to fuck off, but for some stupid reason, I accepted his offer (he said he was going to write the script for me and then I could sell the comic somewhere). Holy shit, I'm so stupid!
Would it be too rude to tell him I don't want to draw the rest of that comic, even when I accepted his offer? I mean, I could try to find someone else who is willing to make a comic based on that stupid script (there are even a couple of parts where he writes stuff like, "I don't know what this character should say. Can you come up with something?").
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>>5624287
https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/42177908/artworks?p=2
Here you go
bear in mind I give 0 fucks about what I draw, unlike this anon
>>5624328
If the commissioner wants me to edit another artist's drawing, I'll do that. If he wants something "not legal", I'll do that. If he wants me to copy another style, I'll do that.
I don't care what others think about my work, I don't draw to be regarded as High Artist and don't claim to be one.
And I certainly don't remembering any criticism while driving on my porn-paid chopper motorcycle.
An advice I can give you anon, is stop posting to get online validation, outside your own media.
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>>5624351
>What's it like to live a life of paranoia 24/7?
Sucks gas and feels like prison.
Do better than me
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>>5624158
>I'm doing 60-70€ cheaper stuff like pinups which are rather quick and easy to make and people seem to like them, but I'm also doing more costly like bigger scenes and comic pages, which are 200-300 a piece
Oh, shit... I think I'm pretty much giving away my work. I usually charge 45 USD for a drawing, and when I say a drawing, I mean anything, even a comic page.
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>>5624418
Depends on the quality of your work, of course
Post a comic page, let me appraise it
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>>5624396
You have to be careful accepting these gigs cause you're gonna stretch yourself way too thin and might mess up your health, fall behind on your studies, or miss a deadline on one of these things. I'd tell the last dude no, you trying to find someone else to help him makes up for it but you can tell him to try to find someone on upwork or something.
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>>5624415
>If the commissioner wants me to edit another artist's drawing, I'll do that. If he wants something "not legal", I'll do that. If he wants me to copy another style, I'll do that.
Thanks for the insight.
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>>5624396
>I don't know what this character should say. Can you come up with something?
FUCKING SHIT
This happened to me too a couple times
Motherfucker come with a rounded idea or don't come at all
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>>5624396
Just tell him you don't have time for gigs that don't pay and deny anything he offers other than actual money worth your effort.
It's a complete waste of your time to bother with that guy.
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>>5624396
Tell him that you got bigger projects and that you got no time for his, and reject it.
Also, try to not ruin your health.
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>>5624427
Here's an old commission I made a couple of months ago. By the way, sorry for posting such a weird drawing. I've drawn other commissions recently, but that client doesn't allow me to post them online. To be honest, looking at my drawing, I think $45 is more than enough.
>>5624435
This is a little embarrassing, but my family have told me the same time. I pretty much work to support them, but they know I get stressed very easily. Maybe I should take things more slowly.
>>5624444
It's awful, I know. I have a client who always asks me to help him define his ideas. I think he's just trying to give me some freedom, but to be honest, I find that annoying.
>>5624454
He told me that he'll pay me this time, when he have more money...
Heh, I just remembered he told me something similar when he "commissioned" those 10 pages.
>>5624501
Thank you, anon.
I really appreciate all these replies.
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>>5624525
bodies are kinda wonky, but you have simple bg and color, even coloring half the lines, that one could be easily be $100 bucks
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>>5624525
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>>5624525
Noice
But wait
All that comic, $45?
I do comic pages for twice that amount, without coloring, and my customers would happily paid the same for that kind of coloring extra.
I just shoo them away with color because I suck at it, but if you do color and want to make money just coloring, there's a market for that too anon
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>>5624525
>>5624418
Anon I'm>>5624158.
45$ for page is miserable. Your work is clean, and above anything, it's consistent throughout the page, which is important in comics.
I've done 31page horror comics as a personal project and I know how much work it is. I've only done 1 comic (only 1 page actually) for a good client of mine and I charged 40€ per panel, which was like 200€ a page, which still is very cheap (picrel). Only did it because the guy is a great client and has given me a lot of work throughout the years and I couldn't say no.
Illustration is really hard to monetize but comics in particular is insanely hard.
I think the key thing is having a really simple and quick style that you can manage to pump out easily
>>5624415
nice, your comics are nice.
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>>5624533
>bodies are kinda wonky
I know, I should study anatomy and perspective more often. Funnily enough, my oldest client pay me $100 per comic page, but I have to come up with the story and each comic must be 20-page long. To be honest, I like to work with that guy
>>5624555
>All that comic, $45?
Yes, but in this client's defense, he's from a poor country (I'm sure my country is doing worse than his, but that doesn't matter). To be honest, he's a special case, I guess.
>>5624637
First of all, that page looks great, anon. I love how you inked those characters.
To be honest, sometimes I'm tempted to charge $45 per panel, but I'm not sure if people would be okay with that (on the other hand, I'm not enjoying this whole commission thing; I think I'd be happier working only with my old clients).
>I think the key thing is having a really simple and quick style that you can manage to pump out easily
I agree with you. Actually, that's exactly what I do with my oldest client.
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newbie artist fag here and I've fucking had enough of megaton furfag I will call "Luke".

No amount of anger in my body and soul, can describe how much of a gigantic sack of shit you truly are Luke and much I fucking hate you.

You will never be happy. You wrench out a fake fucking smile in the mirror every single day, telling yourself self that everything will be okay and that you are superior to anyone else and your yes-men and dumbfuck furry faggot twitter following will suck your sad worm-sized dick and your dried up nutless sack.

You can take all of your dogshit scribbles that you call "masterpieces" and shove them square up your anus that probably hasn't pressed out a turd for years because of your disgustingly fat pimple covered ass.

the only failure here is you Luke. You are a fucking failure. YOU ARE A FUCKING FAILURE.


I love you all anons and I wish that you all can become true great artists. I truly believe you can succeed.
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SOMETHING IS TERRIBLY WRONG WITH MY EAR ;_________;

I don't want tinnitus! My only reasongforlivingishearing please god no. Maybe it's an ear infection idk but it's not going away!
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>>5624637
How can I learn to digitally ink like that?
I'm trying my best but it doesn't come right.
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>>5625203
maybe you should use a brush that can create hard edges.
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>>5625203
if you are too afraid of using hard brushes, enlarge pic, sharpen and compress pic
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Just bought a tablet but after only one hour drawing and my hand hurts so badly. When drawing or painting trad I can work for hours with no problems at all, I don't get it. I feel like I wasted my money.
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>>5625316
you'll need to learn how to handle your g-pen, if you cant adapt that means you wasted the shekels
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I can’t draw a rotated box to save my life.
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>>5625577
use reference
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>>5625316
If it's a small tablet, it makes sense.
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>>5625316
lower pressure sensitivity
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>>5624039
This sounds like a good idea, thank you for the recommendation.
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>>5625203
study good mangakas who use blacks well. treat the blacks like they were a shadow block in. Use the threshold tools in PS to help you out


>>5625095
I got tinnitus at 22 from an explosion accident and I barely notice it anymore. Your brain has a way of turning that frequency off. I only hear it when It's incredibly quite and I focus on it. You would get it at around 50 anyway so wtv
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>>5625095
serves you right for dwelling in this den of whores
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>>5616478
>want to finish
>need one more stage until the piece is done
>try to draw it
>shit.jpg doesn't come out as i want
>time flies out the window
>still not where i intended or mid way to finish
It's very frustrating.
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>>5625840
;_; it's still here, yep I'm gonna to go the hospital
>>5625797
>Your brain has a way of turning that frequency off. I only hear it when It's incredibly quite and I focus on it.
Well yeah I have a ringing in the ear sometimes that comes and goes at random for many years but this is different. When I eat the pain inside the ear gets stronger. And it feels like there is something leaking but it isn't leaking. But anyway off to the doctor I go
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>>5616561
damn my dude what's your trauma
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Is it just me, or would this picture be greatly diminished if it were in color? I don't know why but colored shit just looks worse to me than black and white. I think it may be that it kinda leaves the color up to the viewer's interpretation? Almost like if a book described every last detail about a character it'd be very bland and contrived. Whenever I see comic inking and the finished product I always think that the inking itself looks way better. Also it kind of forces you to make characters have very distinct silhouettes and faces, since you can't just have every character have drastically different colored hair, skin, outfits, etc.
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>>5625895
Back from the doctor and it was irritation/large pile up of wax. All is good now.
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>>5626191
Glad to hear all is good for you anon.
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>>5616478
>get so pressured by time that it becomes stress and torture
>try to draw through a stupid retarded burnout that decided to fuck today with me
>nothing of worth nor the vibe i want comes out
>feel like wanting to jump out the window and punch a devil in it's stupid face
What is your process anons for drawing concept pages? Looking for advice to help me get things done.



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