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What's an art website that I can:
>post porn to
>post "problematic" porn to
>sizeable amount of English speaking audience/users
>users can access the website and see your art without having to create an account for themselves

"Problematic" meaning specifically non-con/dub-con and sibling incest mostly.

I already know of Pixiv, but that has majority Japanese speakers and you need to have an account there to view nsfw art.
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>>5744544
Baarag, but it's filled with lolifucks
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>>5744547
Yeah, I thought of that one, but I feel my art would be out of place as it features adults only. Most of the users browsing that site would be people wanting to see lolis/shotas. So not the best place for my art.
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>>5744551
be the change you want to see. those places stop getting kidfucker reputation when non loli/shota artists actually stop avoiding it. not like it hurts to drop your work and leave while using something like twitter at least.

twitter is a second bet but "problematic" needs explanation first
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>>5744547
id post there if i knew how it worked
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>>5744616
Baraag was literally made to be a lolishota mastodon instance first and other types of art second. Just fyi
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>>5744551
i post a mix of adult and lolicon stuff there, skew more older teens and adult though. The engagement are pretty good relative to twitter. Personally its more of a place to put keep more problematic subjects for people that follow my stuff. Although I have posted father-daughter stuff on twitter and nobody has complaint so far, they are not loli though.

>>5744616
>twitter is a second bet but "problematic" needs explanation first
he mention non-con/ dub-con, meaning none-consensual, basically rape, but maybe not a violent one. / Dubious Consent generally means she got rape but didn't mind or likes it. The reason for using alternative word is because it makes people comfortable and it might be less likely to trigger algorithm. Addtionally, he also mentioned sibling-incest, also can be consider problematic by twitter standards, but it really depends on the fandom. Some fandom are more chill about problematic subjects.
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>>5744652
just dont post the genre titles and you usually dont encounter issues, twitter basically allows anything but hardcore loli/shota.

>>5744649
it wasn't, it was made as an uncensored platform because all the other instances were doing their pissbaby lefty junk where they randomly reject specific art because its gross. it remains the only good uncensored art instance on the fediverse
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>>5744678
>it wasn't, it was made as an uncensored platform because all the other instances were doing their pissbaby lefty junk where they randomly reject specific art because its gross. it remains the only good uncensored art instance on the fediverse
Wrong. Owner of the instance is into lolishota shit himself and a number of moderators are too. The laws for freeze peach it cites are literally only loli cases lol. Baraag is made for lolicons, by lolicons.
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>>5744681
>Wrong. Owner of the instance is into lolishota shit himself and a number of moderators are too.
You are talking to one of them. It was made to allow it, it wasn't made *for it*.
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>>5744682
Wrong. Literally talk to koi about it. How are you doubling down on this? Stop talking out your ass
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>>5744678
>just dont post the genre titles
How am I meant to find an audience that likes this stuff too then? I suppose that's the issue for me. I would need a way to find the audience that actually enjoys dubcon/sibling incest and usually that's by tagging/mentioning the fetish, right? So it seemed like places like twitter were out for me because of that.
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>>5744843
With how general those tags are, on Twitter I think their use will be negligible since growth is barely tag dependent.

You could post on something like Pixiv if artstyle allows and lead back to Twitter after properly tagging the work there, or engage with other artists in the subgenre and networking will inherently expose you to their fans who will recognize the content.

Most people will consume this content regardless of it's subject matter if it's appealing enough. But in total I really cannot recall a single instance of these fetishes getting someone suspended on Twitter; all of this explanation is really if you just insisted on being ultra safe.

You could always post your stuff on smaller sites specifically devoted to it like traditional forums and link back to Twitter too.
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>>5744544
ass muscles don't work like that.
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>>5744857
>You could post on something like Pixiv if artstyle allows and lead back to Twitter
I only know english, unfortunately. My goal is to sell games eventually once my art is a bit better, having only japanese speaking fans would complicate this and not to lead to as many sales if my audience was english speaking as well.
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>>5744919
Welp good luck
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>>5744922
;_;
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e-hentai
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>>5744683
ok
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>>5744645
its a fucking twatter derivative you faggot, its not that hard to figure it out
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>>5744551
>>5744616
Yeah this.
Years ago, HF and Pixiv had strong reputation for cunny and willy, now it's pretty much your usual post whatever you want sites.
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>>5745091
You blew the fuck out of that retard real good lmao
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>>5745091
>>5745693
Fake. Koi's discord account got deleted.
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>>5745701
i dont know why you think getting back in contact with his mods wouldn't be the first thing he does after his accounts slapped but you can believe what you like anon.
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>>5745701
>[HEADCANON]
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>>5745718
Check his baraag account
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i love cunny
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NTA can i make it if i post on Baarag i just wanna a viable Social media when i post my lewds (half of my drawing are loli tho) at least a uncensored alt of my pixiv gallery
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>>5745742
Yes, growth is less volatile due to the smaller platform, but it still has 150k users and is connected to the rest of fediverse. From what I see as well, a lot of artists can live off comms purely from the community it has there, to the point they ignore major ones like Twitter.
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>>5744678
>uncensored art
>devolves into pedophilia
leftists win again, enjoy your mentally ill shithole
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>draw random strokes on a canvas
>duuude this is literally pedophilia you sick fuck
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>>5744544
>art website
>for porn
you don't want an art website then, you want a porn site that caters to drawings
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>>5745900
desu I'd rather hang with the people who draw cunny but would never harm a person than the people who act moral then call you a schizo cause you're still mad people ate up the lie that the elite's cheeze pizza peddler killed himself right before he gave away the names of his buyers.
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>>5746253
So an art site?
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>>5744678
>, it was made as an uncensored platform because all the other instances were doing their pissbaby lefty junk where they randomly reject specific art because its gross. it remains the only good uncensored art instance on the fediverse
wrong, the banner of it is literally a loli, you can claim its about "free speech", but the free speech part is secondary to its actual purpose
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>>5747746
did you even read the thread nigger?
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>>5747789
No, why?
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>>5744544
twitter doesn't prohibit rape art, but obviously you won't be retweeted much unless you become popular between japanese audience
you should use pixiv regardless since it's the best site for porn artists and it's also has good algorithms for promoting beginners
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I would say pillowfort, but it probably doesn't ok "problematic" porn
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>>5749149
Don’t you still have to pay to use that site? I also don’t think I’ve ever heard of any artists I know ever using the site themselves, even if they originally came from tumblr.
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>>5744544
Twitter as long as you don't get reported
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>>5749149
pillowfort is the worst vaporwave site I've seen for art communities, you can just tell they are lying their asses about accepting "all" types of nsfw content, if they really are in need for money to start with you can be sure as hell they'll drop artists in favor of whatever fat check they get from ads that dislike nsfw art.
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>>5749252
How do I avoid getting reported?
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>>5749388
Don't use mainstream hashtags, avoid contact with mainstream artists and communities, etc. If you draw castration porn you probably don't want to tag the characters or anything
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>>5749694
Do I then tag it as “#castration”, for example? Also, that sounds like it would be a lot harder to find an audience, the point of fan art is to get a bigger outreach to fans of the show who also like the fetish you’re drawing. Wish more English speaking people browsed sites like pixiv, cause then I would use it.
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I don't get Mastodon.

Let's say I make a Pawoo account, can I interact with Baraag (and other federations) with it?
If that's the case, which federation should I choose to make my account at?
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>>5750414
What do you mean by federation?
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I am pretty sure that twitter don't goes out hunting and banning people for drawing "basic" (i.e. relatively non-violent acts, including rape as long as it doesn't show too much abuse) lolicon porn as long as you don't interact much with the western side of the userbase who will report you en-masse and get you banned very easily.
japs post these types of drawing daily and none of them gets banned for it unless they are someone who happens to get specifically targeted by the twitter jannies, or got too popular for his own good (e.g. mammoth thanks to the ToT screencap)

>>5750389
You shouldn't say anything at all, from what I see (jap) people who draw extreme fetishes usually have a account with a sub >10k follower count and just post their drawings without saying anything or using any hashtags, if you are good at what you do you somehow will be found, it's weird.

If you are into "extreme" fetishes the most mainstream thing you can do is to just use japanese tags and dump your stuff into pixiv and hope people find your social through there. Twitter as a platform is a weird gamble as I have seen people posts some REALLY extreme stuffs on twitter both 2D and 3D without getting banned, while there are people who draws lolis in swimsuits (and nothing more) gets banned as soon as he makes an account.
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>>5752046
Of Mastodon.
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>>5744547
I swear baraag and pawoo are definitely honeypot. There's no way that a fed isn't running it
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Pixiv guests can't see porn
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>>5752255
and what do you expect them to get out of it? busting trafficking ring for fictional kids?
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>>5750414
>Can I interact with Baraag (and other federations) with it?
Yes.
>which federation should I choose to make my account at?
Whichever one you enjoy
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>>5752710
>Whichever one you enjoy
That's the problem, I have no idea which one to pick because I don't use any.
Actually, does it even make a difference since people from elsewhere can follow me anyway?

I guess the best way to choose would be to go for the most open one in terms of allowed content, but I've seen a bunch of attempts from soijacks to ban federations that allow "problematic" content, including the very creator of Mastodon, so I don't know how it stands nowadays.
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>>5752723
>That's the problem, I have no idea which one to pick because I don't use any.
make an account and find out? Are you a lazy-ass or a bitch-ass?
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>>5752855
Buying bread? JUST INSTALL OUR BREAD BUYING APP
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>>5752723
baraag if youre english pawoo if youre japanese, problem solved
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>>5752860
unlike buying bread, social media participating is contingent on having a social media account, yes.

Are you fucking retarded?
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>>5752255
Back in the early days it was made for natsoc users who were making organized propaganda, the loli fans inherited their used site.
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>>5752682
people involved in lolicon are also involved in real childporn, so it makes sense to keep a track on them.
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>>5753416
are you the kind of karen who go reporting japanese artist on twitter for lolicon to the FBI?
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>>5753420
no, why would i need to? US internet traffic is already heavily monitored and if you've ever openly interacted with lolicons online you're already on a list.
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>>5752255
Fed don't bother, Otaku and hentai artist are herbivore, like vegam consume plamt based meat and refuse real meat.
Pedos cases in Japan are usually falsely accused or set up by Chinese or SEA niggers(sold their children's virgin to politicians, arrange a visit to Japan, S.Korea, another SEA countries. If any accident happen, find local Otaku, yell "pedo" and let Japanese cancel culture do the rest).
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>>5753425
well, you post on 4chan I guess we are all on the list.
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>>5752682
what do you expect them to get out of bullying impressionable retards to take parts in criminal plots that they plan and fund?
government makework to justify funding and toys.
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>>5753433
look like we've got a mega mind over here.
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>>5752682
They molest women andchildren the most in the world
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>>5753446
negroes post there?
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>>5744551
I posted regular adult xxx on baraag and HF. There's still engagement.
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>>5753451
I mean Japan
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>>5753483
are you a feminist?
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>>5753493
nice deflection retard
>japan has one of the highest rates of sexual assault in the world
>MFNHDJMFMFBUUUHHH ARE YOU FEMININSTSM???
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>>5753501
so you are not a feminist?
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>>5752723
>to ban federations that allow "problematic" content
What could be more problematic than loli/shota content?
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>>5753819
That was precisely the case, they were discussing how to cut off ties with Pawoo.
But some of the few counter-arguers brought up things like freedom of political speech and how Arab federations would have anti-women speech and how Westerners have no censor bars on genitals but Japs aren't complaining about their "violations".
It was a shitshow.
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>>5746537
I doubt these virtue signalers even care about children. They even made Uzaki-Chan "Problematic". If they cared for children they would be against same sex couples from adopting.
>>5744544
>"Problematic" meaning specifically non-con/dub-con and sibling incest mostly.
Most sites that allow porn in the first place would probably allows that too.
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>>5754360
Most mainstream sites do not allow rape/non-con. Reddit/Twitter does not.
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>>5754761
Plenty of non-con on Twitter.
Reddit has non-con Subreddits, although reddit is absolutely horrible for non meme art.
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i hate you faggots so much, this shit isnt fucking real its not FUCKING REAL, draw a child getting raped then her head getting ripped off then an ugly bastard skullfucking her decapitated head while her spirit watches from the spirit realm and furiously masturbates her clit, none of that shit is fucking real NONE OF IT IS FUCKING REAL, goddam stupid fucking americans and stupid fucking europeans stupid fucking normalfags you people are goddam fucking stupid fuck you
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>>5756134
you're offered literally no alternative
>fucking twitter
>fucking reddit
what a joke, listen bud you'll have to end up making your own site or hosting an entire mastodon instance just for your art cause normal turbo nigger faggots have PrObLeMaTIc shit censored everywhere
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>>5756523
luke smith is an example of someone who took a foss decentralized platform and made an entire instance just for him to post his videos cause of jewtube's censorshit, peertube btw, that guy is a computer god though and i dont know how much shit you'd have to go trough to host it but its better than dealing with wordpress fees and other bullshit and you get the added benefit of being able to have your stuff be seen in the fediverse
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>>5753478
of course theres engagement ive also seen that shit you can post literally whatever the fuck you want on there thats why its the only art instance worth a fucking shit
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>>5753483
are you fucking stupid? these artists majority likely are neets or shut-in reclused individuals with no friends that barely go outside, stop being a stupid fucking roastie spreading bullshit
>japan
no proof and also
>fbi
>japan
you STUPID BITCH, japan is not AMERICAN JURISDICTION, fbi cant do shit to chinks goddamit this is basic fucking knowledge and drawings arent fucking illegal
>b-but federal law
federal and state law are both subject to the constitution, any legislation that attempts to punish you for fictional artwork is fucking unconstitutional and just waiting to be overturned and cast into oblivion, like the 2001 protect act
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>>5753478
man, HF's got strange long tails in terms of engagement for some reason, I haven't post anything new there in years but I am still getting notice from people favoring random stuff from my gallery. I remember getting my first commission inquiries from there from nearly a decade ago... good times.
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>>5745900
why is pedophilia so taboo to you faggots?
>incest
>necrophilia
>gore
>furry
>fart
>scat
>futa
>trap
>tranny
>granny
>interracial
>beastiality
>gay
>inflation
>vore
>bdsm
>rape
the list goes on and on, oh but DRAW a FICTIONAL CHILD, and the whole bloody world loses their goddam minds, you normalniggers are a fucking joke
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im seething and boiling, i feel like artists who's art gets censored should ban together and form a manifesto, human expression should be regarded as sacred and not persecuted cause
>hurr i dont like it
i mean if you dont like it, and no one is getting hurt from it, then just DONT FUCKING LOOK AT IT YOU STUPID FUCKING NIGGERS
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>>5756521
>i hate you faggots so much, this shit isnt fucking real its not FUCKING REAL, draw a child getting raped then her head getting ripped off then an ugly bastard skullfucking her decapitated head while her spirit watches from the spirit realm and furiously masturbates her clit, none of that shit is fucking real NONE OF IT IS FUCKING REAL, goddam stupid fucking americans and stupid fucking europeans stupid fucking normalfags you people are goddam fucking stupid fuck you
Go outside
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>>5756536
>im seething and boiling, i feel like artists who's art gets censored should ban together and form a manifesto, human expression should be regarded as sacred and not persecuted cause
No censorship and suppression is fine, everyone has a limit even you
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>>5756536
>B-BUT THIS IS PROBLEMATIC BECAUSE.... IT JUST IS OKAY?????
problematic cause you NIGGERS MAKE IT PROBLEMATIC, ITS A FUCKING DRAWING FOR FUCKS SAKE
>um sweaty this is not a good look
neither is
>incest
>necrophilia
>gore
>furry
>fart
>scat
>futa
>trap
>tranny
>granny
>interracial
>beastiality
>gay
>inflation
>vore
>bdsm
>rape
no one fucking persecutes that oh and the hypocrisy of these people makes it worse, you wont see faggots screeching over woman on shota but man on loli? PSHAW, EVIL, PERVERSE, DIABOLICAL, SACRILEGE, YOU DESERVE TO HAVE YOUR LIMBS CHOPPED OFF ALONG WITH YOUR GENITALS THEN THROWN INTO A CAGE WITH HUNGRY PITBULLS WHO'LL EAT YOU ALIVE FOR BEING A DISGUSTING PEDOPHILE CHILD RA- oh whats that? he didnt rape anyone?? b-but the DRAWINGS the OBSCENE DRAWINGS!!!!
i hate normalniggers
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>>5756540
>No censorship and suppression is fine, everyone has a limit even you
kill yourself, it is not fucking fine and you're only saying that cause you're not the fucking nigger being censored right now, NOT YOU, ME for shit that doesnt hurt anyone
>>5756538
nigger i probably spend more time outside than anyone in this thread
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>>5756540
>censorship and suppresion is fine b-because... IT JUST IS OKAY?? I JUST DONT LIKE IT OKAY???? SO BECAUSE I DONT LIKE IT THAT MAKES IT OKAY!!! OKAY??? IM NOT A TYRANT YOU'RE JUST A FREAK SWEATY HAVE SEX TAKE MEDS
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>>5756542
>normalniggers
This website is popular and mainstream. And most people here may as Facebook/Twitter , it’s doesn’t matter, and really isn’t argument at this point.
>>5756543
You sound like a child
>that cause you're not the fucking nigger being censored right now, NOT YOU, ME for shit that doesnt hurt anyone
Everyone is censored and suppressed to some degree.
You are acting as if any of this online fantasy bullshit matters, I don’t care if you look at cp for Christ sakes or whatever.
I’m just saying censorship and suppression is needed in any society and that limiting this sort of content isn’t necessarily bad.
>>5756547
I don’t care about it, spamming soijacks is just a bit dumb though.
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>>5756551
>may as Facebook/Twitte
May as well use Twitter or Facebook
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>>5756525

You are quite impressionable
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>>5756551
>This website is popular and mainstream. And most people here may as Facebook/Twitter , it’s doesn’t matter, and really isn’t argument at this point.
they're still normalniggers and here i can call them such without being banned cause this isnt one of their normalnigger hellholes
>You sound like a child
ok and? i like being childish
>You are acting as if any of this online fantasy bullshit matters
it does matter, dissemination of information on the internet and free unfiltered access to that information is important to me and many others who'd be too scared to say it out of fear of being called le "cringe" cause CARING about things nowadays is shunned, ridiculed and discouraged but im not gonna let myself be bullied into becoming a nonchalant nihilistic shitstain
>fantasy
the world is becoming more and more AND MORE intertwinned with this "fantasy" every day that goes by
>I’m just saying censorship and suppression is needed in any society and that limiting this sort of content isn’t necessarily bad.
censorship and taboos are stupid and dont help society in any way it just makes people remain ignorant and afraid of bullshit boogeymen, but you know what? since i love freedom so much i think people should be allowed to restrict people peddling shit they dont like in their designated "safe spaces" so yea go ahead and disallow loli doujins in your manga shop or whatever but thats different from the STATE persecuting people over it cause its NOT FUCKING REAL as well as keeping people that like those things from being able to distribute it among other likeminded individuals, but if you're some power hungry maniac with a frustrated power process that is just DYING to FORCE people to live their lives and think the way YOU want them to effectively imposing your will on THEM then i guess you wont see an issue and will think that such a thing is necessary
>I don’t care about it, spamming soijacks is just a bit dumb though.
cope
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>>5756554
i admire him a lot
>>5756560
>censorship and taboos are stupid and dont help society in any way it just makes people remain ignorant and afraid of bullshit boogeymen, but you know what? since i love freedom so much i think people should be allowed to restrict people peddling shit they dont like in their designated "safe spaces" so yea go ahead and disallow loli doujins in your manga shop or whatever but thats different from the STATE persecuting people over it cause its NOT FUCKING REAL as well as keeping people that like those things from being able to distribute it among other likeminded individuals, but if you're some power hungry maniac with a frustrated power process that is just DYING to FORCE people to live their lives and think the way YOU want them to effectively imposing your will on THEM then i guess you wont see an issue and will think that such a thing is necessary
oh and lets say banning this stuff is put to a democratic vote, you still end up oppresing the minority that enjoys this content and for fucking what? its not hurting anyone, why cant you just live and let live?
>C-CAUSE I JUST DONT LIKE IT OKAY? I NEED TO FORCE PEOPLE TO LIVE HOW I WANT THEM TO OKAY? IM NOT AN AUTHORITARIAN CAUSE... IM JUST NOT OKAY
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>>5756560
>the world is becoming more and more AND MORE intertwinned with this "fantasy" every day that goes by
Yes, and it’s a bit pathetic and sad
People love stories on the internet even though it means nothing.
Online communities and all of this is just modern fantasy, stuff that at most deserves to be laughed at and mocked.
>the STATE persecuting people over it cause its NOT FUCKING REAL
It’s even fine if the state does it, this is internet bullshit that doesn’t matter in the slightest.
> censorship and taboos are stupid and dont help society in any way it just makes people remain ignorant and afraid of bullshit boogeymen,

People are influenced by the content and stories they read on the internet even on imageboards, it’s doesn’t really matter wether it’s true or not.
Limiting emotions and limiting content and what is regurgitated on websites and message boards eccetera isn’t bad.
>>5756568
>oh and lets say banning this stuff is put to a democratic vote, you still end up oppresing the minority that enjoys this content and for fucking what? its not hurting anyone, why cant you just live and let live?
Then it’s fine, does fantasy stuff even matter.
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>>5756571
since "fantasy" doesnt matter then it shouldnt be censored anyways cause it doesnt matter :)
>>5756551
>cp
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>>5756574
>since "fantasy" doesnt matter then it shouldnt be censored anyways cause it doesnt matter :)
Like I said I don’t care about it wether it’s censored or not, but I understand and empathese a bit with the people who view as something that needs to be censored.
And my opinion on censorship that it’s fine. It’s more about the limit than anything else.
>cp
I dunno why you green texted that in general, my point is I don’t really care vulgar stuff you look at wether it be child porn, loli shit or whatever.
It’s just online nonsense fantasy in my eyes.
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Hey guys, is Deviantart still a good website? What's going on there? Is it still active?
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>>5756560
>it does matter, dissemination of information on the internet and free unfiltered access to that information is important
Having the ability to call eachother niggers, fags whatever isn't really important or to blur inchonprehencalbe garbage on /b/ or /pol/.
Life will go on with it without the need to bark like a god online caring about nonsense comminites and and problems that does not exist in reality.
>to me and many others who'd be too scared to say it out of fear of being called le "cringe"
I don't care about le cringe, all of these just the same nonsense
>cause CARING about things nowadays is shunned, ridiculed and discouraged
No it isn't mate, honestly what are you even smoking, people care about a lot of stuff in real life and that is not shunned.
>but im not gonna let myself be bullied into becoming a nonchalant nihilistic shitstain
Yea bro I'm bullying you for stating my opinion.
And not caring about this this online stuff, and thinking it's funny at most isn't the same as being nihilistic.
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>>5756677
>god
Dog
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>>5756593
>Hey guys, is Deviantart still a good website? What's going on there? Is it still active?
No





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