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Stupid Questions Thread
Questions That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread
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How do I make drawing fun again?
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>>5746327
lower standards.
copying.
going off social media like tw*tter and alike.
drawing what you already can draw well.

and when it becomes fun again you can try drawing something new with higher standards. don't go back to tw*tter tho, not worth it.
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This was drawn in 1:1 pixel ratio. What resolution do artists normally draw in? If it's such a high resolution, do they draw at 50% zoom? Then go in 100% zoom to add the details?
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>>5746327
get a cute art gf. Or a sketch-bro. Nothing is worth doing when you have no friends.

>>5746399
It doesn't matter
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>>5746399
I draw anywhere between 40% zoom and 1000% zoom or whatever's the limit in Krita and I constantly change the zoom based on what element I'm working atm. Every now and again I reset the zoom to 100% to get a feel of how the finished thing will look then back to weird zoom levels.
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For someone looking to render in a comic book fashion in csp what style of paint and brushes would you recommend. Should I use ink markers airbrush etc?
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>tfw you can't escape the constant cycle of manga, anime, games, and 4chan
>tfw even when you do try your art still ends up looking like shit
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>>5746272
Any good resources on charcoal drawing?
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>>5746636
Me but when it comes to coloring/shadow and clothing folds.
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which social media is best for archiving my doodles without being shat upon immediately?
i was recommended twitter but the twitter mobs scare me
and im afraid that tumblr wont allow my nsfw stuff
what is the meta choice for this kinda thing?
thanks i advance bros
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>>5746685
One word: Vilppu!

>>5746636
>me except having a regular sleep schedule. I want to eat breakfast so badly...
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>>5746690
Draw decent imagery, and build your own website? Slow growth expected tho, unless you're *that* good.

>>5746659
Nathan Fowkes' book/tutorial seems good. Watts usage of pierre noire too. Besides, there are the modern traditionalist with their sharpen Nitram.

Depends on what kind of finish you're looking for. Though, unless you're already proficient with graphite, I'd suggest to stick with graphite until you can e.g. copy a Bargue plate with _great_ accuracy. Charcoal is trickier to handle.

>>5746685
Take your time, work from life. Start with white/monochromatic simple objects.
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>>5746700
>build your own website
anon im just a small time doodler from /i/
i was asking which social media site to make an account on
I have all my doodles backed up on my drive i just want them to be accessible to frens

making a site of my own does sond kinda cool later down the line
for now i just wanna make an art account on social media
the question is which one is the calmest/drama-free
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I have a Genius Mousepen I608X and I'm running out of tips/nibs. I looked it up online but I didn't found any store or website where I can buy them. Does anyone know where I can find ribs for this tablet?
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>>5746690
nobody cares about bad artists, be assured that your crappy drawings will be ignored
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>>5746690
Archiving? Pixiv it is then.
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what is the most stupid brainless drawing exercise I can do over and over?
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Are there settings to change when you first use a drawing tab? friend gave me an old screenless tab and the lines i make are shaky, i can't do a straight line without it getting cut and sometimes it keep going all by itself if that makes sense? it just doesn't feel like when i'm drawing

does this come from tablet (old or bad brand) or is it because i have to change some settings
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Is there any hope for making it with webcomics and comics as an artist in the western internet? It seems like in current times NSFW art seems to dominate all, and the only comics artists who get 6 digits following on social media are pretty much the old dudes that have been here since the 90s. I can't even think of many hugely popular non-porn internet artists from the last decade, the first things that come to my mind are Sakimichan and Shadman. Why it is like this? People probably recognise Krekkov much more than they recognise Joe Mad at this point.
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>>5746993
drawabox
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>>5746993
gesture drawing
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>>5747011
Just make a good comic and market it well. It can happen, but you need to work hard and make something of good quality. Good luck anon
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helpu me, I don't understand when and how to tilt/position a page when I draw.
I'm doing draw a box lines, and they always slightly curve downwards when the page is parallel to my body.
Should I try tilting it 45 degrees to the right then? I tried it for some lines, but then I absolutely lost everything with lines going everywhere
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>>5747011
If you realize that comics depend more on interesting story and characters than art to gain a big following, then yes. Your art can't be complete garbage, but past that low bar, you have to make something that sticks with people. Coom has immediately value because people want to jerk it. If not coom, you have to provide some other form of (lasting) value. "Oh, that's pretty" isn't enough. People can't remember that super-realistic or cute picture they saw 3 days ago. They can still remember and still care about stories they read decades ago.
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>>5747226
Oh never mind. Literally both get explained in the next video and also why you shouldn't grind to learn to make lines from any angle
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>>5746704
Well, building a website isn't necessarily a herculean task; there are pre-made blogging solutions for instance, like blogger.com.

Are you too young to have never heard of the Great Blogging Era? Some still survive despite the Social Medias invaders.

But, you won't get as much visibility as you would on social media. Yet, this will provide you with a calmer space, and you can always later re-use that content on social media anyway.

You can't have it all I suppose.
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>>5746993
"Drawing" ;-)

More seriously, copying other artists, which can be brainless/mechanical, but I'm not sure it's the best way to go at it.

>>5747011
Ignore the coomers. Yes you can, but as >>5747154 and >>5747244 said, you have to work, work hard, very hard.

Besides the technical skills, try to find a source of inspiration, something that can help you connect with people. Traditional culture is quite rich; there are a lot of comics nowadays about e.g. ancient greeks and stuff;I suppose it sells.
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>>5747356
>copying other artists
can you elaborate?
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>>5746993
Set up a still life box and start drawing things. Also do what this anon said >>5747356

>>5747372
not them but basically what you're doing is reverse engineering whatever you're trying to copy.
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any advice on going from traditional painting to digital painting?
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>>5747506
Krita is literally that
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>>5746857
P-please, somebody help me. ;_;
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>>5746857
It doesn't look like they sell replacement nibs, but anything the same width and length will work. People even use tooth picks and weedwacker filament.

Personally I would buy a similarly shaped nibs (probably huion ones) and trims them down until they fits
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>>5747709
Thank you, anon. You confirmed my fears. I'll try the suggestions you gave me.
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>>5746272

Question 1. How do you actually apply proportions to drawing the figure? As soon as you move part of the torso or pelvis or basically any other part the proportion system is messed.

Is it more about developing an eye for correct proportions?
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>>5746857
Man at this point you should just buy a new tablet. Nobody sells the nibs, the tablet that pen goes to is so fucking old.
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>>5746272
Does anyone know of artists who upload videos of their processes with a style similar to pic-related? especially the painting part, it can be youtube or twitch or uploaded to mega, thank you very much.
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>>5747743
Yes. This is exactly why Huston doesn't get hung up on talking about them all too much. That's not to say studying proportions is not important, it comes in to play when doing static/simply posed drawings. You'll develop an eye for what's right as you keep practising and drawing from reference, though. The key is to pay attention to the patterns and relationships of the forms that take place when the body is contorted in certain ways.
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>>5747744
I just bought it a few years ago. On the other hand, I live in a third world country.
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Is it bad to study from photos? I'm trying to develop a good color sense but I've heard photographs don't portray real life colors accurately. There's only so much I can do with indoor lighting and I don't really have the means to go outside and start painting (especially figures) so I'm not sure what I should do. Or are the downsides exaggerated?
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>>5746272

How do I move from drawing nude figures from photos into character design? Simple steps would be very helpful...
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How does cutesexyrobutts get that fluffy look on his rendering? It's killing me that I can't figure it out, please give any pointers or ressources you have
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what is a productive way to go through beginner books like Huston’s figure drawing one? Of course at some point you should move on to the next chapter, and you never master a skill (certainly not with low drawing mileage), but roughly how long should you work on/how much practice should you put into the fundamentals and ideas in each chapter?
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>>5746448
how or where do i start looking for an art friend? sounds like fun since im the only person in my friend group who draws
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>>5747372
Copying/studying works from other artists: as >>5747503 put it, trying to reverse engineering the original work (understand how the paint was layered, how such texture was accomplished, etc.)

>>5748298
Read it all sequentially, cover to cover; copy all drawings along the way.

Doesn't matter if your drawings aren't perfect, just make sure you learn something or train some specific skill each time. Try to vary the way you copy (e.g. go straight with ink, draw big/small, slow/fast, etc.)
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What kind of canvas/paper do I have to use to get this kind of grainy texture?
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>>5747815
>Is it bad to study from photos?
This is a very divisive topic but imho what you really want to do is to draw as much as you can, so go with what you enjoy the most or what reference is available to you.
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>>5747815
Experiment for yourself: take a small still life, a single object. Paint it from life. Take a picture of it with your phone. Paint it from the picture, without looking at the still life/previous painting.

Also, take a moment to study photography, like, white balance.

Plein-air painting will only be beneficial, even if you just aim at figures.
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>>5747761
>Does anyone know of artists who upload videos of their processes with a style similar to pic-related? especially the painting part, it can be youtube or twitch or uploaded to mega, thank you very much.

thats a regular anime girl with average rendering everyone does it in pixiv kek, you simply arent good enough go draw more
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Please be honest to me so I know whether to just cut my losses or not. Can actually autistic people learn portrait drawing. Not like shy autistic, but autistic autistic because whenver I draw faces no matter what I do they are just off like uncanny or whatever.
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>>5748555
yes
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>>5748555
yes

use reference first. Measure everything. Learn face proportions. Try to practice like anyone would practice drawing objects. Ask for critique.

One thing I like to do when I can't find anyone to critique at the moment is to draw with reference then digitally overlay my drawing over the reference and spot what I measured wrong.

You can do it.
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>>5748555
Take 3 to 4h to make a basic *block-in*, just establishing the proportions. Spend 3 to 4h refining that block-in, getting basic light/shadow shapes, getting more details in.

Then spend 3 to 4h rendering.

Do it 10 times, and work from good drawing/paintings first. Voilà.

A typical /beg/ issue is that they work for 1h on a piece, but that's not how it works, especially at first. Experienced artists, they can get something done in a hour, but even so, precisely capturing proportions is hard.

Obviously, spending time 12h vs. spending 1h will give you very, very different results.
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>>5747815

It is not bad at all. Go for the method that allows you to practice more.

Try to look for references that are made for art study and not stuff with lots of filters over and pair your studies with color theory books and couses.
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>>5746690
Deviantart. Anything and everything goes there. No one cares. And even if you're not that good chances are you'll find people who will follow you.
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>>5748556
>>5748676
>>5748678
Thanks for the motivation bros wagmi
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>>5748418
Possibly hot-pressed watercolor paper and dry brush technique. The original is probably very big and was then downsized in its reproduction.

I believe some kind of stencil technique and airbrushes were used too.
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>>5746272
This is a question about linework and how it interacts with tone in photoshop.

So I like the linework of the circle on the left. The problem is, the value changes based on the tone that's painted behind it. I want it to behave like the line on the right, where it remains unchanged by the tone behind it. Is there a way to do this?

I've been struggling with this for days now and feel like an idiot.
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>>5748720
Line layer is normal layer
Coloring layer, set it t multiply, then scribble over lines
If line layer is pitch black, there should be no color change

Tell me if it works, I main Krita
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>>5748724
There's no change happening when I set the red mark layer to multiply.

I know I can make the linework go to pitch black to avoid this, but that destroys what I like about the line - its value changes and its got a textural appearance. I know there has to be a way to preserve this but also make it opaque. I just haven't found the solution yet.
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>>5746272
i cant draw what do
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>>5748729
You suck at explaining, do you have an artwork by a Japanese artist doing it for an example?
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>>5748736
I have linework that behaves like it's transparent, but I want it to behave like it's opaque. So I want the layer beneath it to not change the value or color of the linework on the top layer. See pic related in my first post.

If you don't understand that, you have a reading comprehension problem.

I'm trying ways to basically add the white in a layer beneath to the transparent linework to make it opaque - the problem is that the edge of the linework gets fucked up.
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>>5748720
>>5748729
The lineart is translucent, so the only way to do this would be to create a fully opaque copy of it (by merging a dozen or so copies for example) and fill it with white (or any light value of your choice) under the lineart layer. Chances are it will look strange though. I think this is one of those you can't have the cake and eat it too type situations. You can always color inside the lines with no or little overlap though.
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>>5748766
Thank you, I think I'm slowly arriving at this knowledge by beating my head against the wall.

I'd like to do linework like cory loftis (in pic), he varies the value and the color of the line depending on the surface and it works really well. I'm not very clear on his process though.

1. I could make the shapes below the lineart layer go outside of the lines (or inside of the lines as you said), and then adjust the linework by ctrl+clicking the lineart layer and adjusting it after.

or, I could add the final pass of lineart last so I don't have to do this sort of adjustment.

Not sure what's better but I'll probably try doing both.
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>>5748774
>tumblr western artist
ngmi.
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>>5748785
feel free to suggest an artist with better line quality. I don't know what's out there and it's tedious to poke around for non-western art looking specifically for line quality when I don't know where to look.
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What do I do when I have an ambitious idea that I want to draw, but fully understand with my current skillset that it's going to look really fucking bad? Do I just draw it anyways?
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>>5748851
intentionally make it a flat drawing and focus on the art itself to look good not accurate.
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>>5748851
If your goal is to improve your skills, think of the staircase. The tendency is for people to want to be at the top without taking the small steps to get there.

Not that this should keep you from being ambitious in the general sense - it's simply describing a phenomenon whereby you have more to gain, as far as developing your skills goes, by choosing a project that is just outside of your abilities and tackling its problems, rather than doing something too ambitious and falling apart.
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>>5748851
If you really intend on becoming an artist, work on your skills first and foremost. Keep a notebook with all your ideas: you'll tap into that when you'll be more advanced. You can start a few composition sketches, but don't go too far.

This will give room for your ideas to grow and evolves, not only from a conceptual point of view, but also from a technical point of view: as your skills progress, you'll be able to magnify those ideas even more.

Translate your question into the musical realm: if you have an idea for symphony, would you spend time writing it now or wait before your overall skills are up to the task?

Worthy ideas need to be treated accordingly.
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>>5748851
How ambitious? If two-three page comic do it now.
Depending on the amount of hours you sink in it, it might look pretty good even badly drawn.
>>5748869
Completely disagree. If you got an idea, execute it immediately.
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>>5748888
I'm open to the idea of executing it immediately, but what would be your argumentation to justify it?
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>>5747967
Someone answer me
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>>5748907
It will always feel like your skills are lacking, no matter how much you grind.

Whenever your ability to do something raises, so does your vision of its quality. Something always gonna be off. This is very important, lots of artists can draw human figure very good, but bam, nothing else! And they become trapped, because they want their backgrounds to be the same as their human figures.


Skills are not an essential part of art, ESPECIALLY when there is a strong idea behind it.
What you actually need to do is to draw it in a way that would immerse viewer, make him think more, maybe even go twice through a page if this is a comic, to see if there were any little details that he missed.
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>>5748774
My theory is that he achieves this look by not using an all-white background, softening the value difference by avoiding too much contrast, and coloring with a textured brush to keep his texture contrast soft too.

I'll see if I can reverse engineer it
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>>5748913
he lowers the opacity of his lineart and doesn't fully render. There are random shapes with different hues but very close value inside his colors. Variety makes your brain go brrrrr

this image has really muddy ugly colors tho
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>>5748869
note: a digital sketchbook works just as well
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>>5748992
I agree and disagree; I think we're not looking at things in the same way.

>It will always feel like your skills are lacking, no matter how much you grind.
Yes, and what you describe about the process through which this problem occurs is accurate.

I would add that, if you *really* can do figure drawing well, this mean that you have a certain appreciation of more fundamentals notions (proportions, volumes, color mixing, temperature, etc.): learning landscape shouldn't be that hard. But I may be biased, as I personally tried to learn to draw pretty much anything from the beginning.

>Skills are not an essential part of art
The word "Art" comes from latin "ars", precisely meaning "skill, craft".

>ESPECIALLY when there is a strong idea behind it.
I agree. Like picrel, according to western's style/standard, is technically poor, but (to me), it's marvelous.

I think that we're looking at things from a different perspective: you seem to consider art as something the artist needs to express, while I consider art as something a random person will need to receive.

And I think a modern random person is likely to have higher standard regarding technical abilities. It's a bit sad in a way that appearances matter that much, but if your ideas really are worth it, why not dressing them as finely as possible?

But obviously from the artist's point of view, such rigor isn't as necessary.

>>5749183
I'm a trad; I just don't understand how people can find any joy in drawing on a computer! Though I think some computer drawing skills can be handy in a professional settings, like to test out a few ideas more easily, etc. But man, I wouldn't want to have to do art on a computer.
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>>5748514
if it's so simple could you do it and show me your process? what? that you're a permabeg who can't even draw a box with correct perspective? that's what I thought.
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How do you even draw like this? I don't understand digital at all, what even is this ability. Why is digital so complicated? And good job to the anon who drew pic rel, it's great.
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>>5749338
I think a key aspect of digital is that you have much more flexibility that with trad, which is likely to remove many psychological/physical barriers.

Thus, people are more likely to be creative, to rely on their intuition, to use colors more freely (pigments all have different quality, price that can affect their usages with trad), etc.
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>>5749350
I just don't understand how everything is so clean and pristine. How they rendered the lighting like that. When I attempt digital painting I treat it as if I'm doing oil painting or acrylic.
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How do I get the gumption to finally use all the traditional drawing materials I've hoarded over the years? I have so much in terms of ink
(brushes, nibs, inks, markers and pens, etc.) but can't help but never feel ready to use any of it
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>>5749361
Brushing past all the on-paper advantages of digital art creation; ctrl-z. Over and over and over and over and over and over again.
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anyone have this as a zip they could send me https://www.artstation.com/marketplace/p/k1Vq/gesturedrawing
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>>5746272
Is making fan art to gain popularity just pigeon-holing yourself? Is it okay to post fan art once in a while, or is it an "all or nothing" type of thing? Speaking in terms of growing an account. Would that potentially lock you into FotM type of work?
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>>5749647
No one wants to see original shit. They want characters they know. If you suddenly out of nowhere post original characters, and you see that follower count go down, it doesn't feel good man.
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>>5749397
Hoarding materials can be so bad because we feel like "I'm not that good, so it will only be a waste of materials" you gotta get rid of this thinking. Materials should serve your studies. Finished a tube of pain? Good, it means you're practicing. Go on and experiment with the stuff. Make color charts, one-minute quick figures, copy works you like.

One thing that is cool if you can afford it is to share your materials. You don't need to give them away, just invite art friends to paint/draw with you. I've lost count of materials that spent literal years in a box only to resurface because a friend asked me if they could try them.
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>>5749678
>tube of pain
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SAI vs Krita
Which one is better?
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>>5749361
Try to deconstruct the painting piece by piece. Like, remove the highly chromatic magentas.

Study what remains, and look for something else to remove; strip it down progressively and it should gives you an idea of which elements provides which feelings.

Also, I've saw some anime background painted in gouache with a similar feel to that.
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>>5749397
When I have a new sketchbook that I struggle to start, I usually trash the first pages with poor quality artwork. Then I don't feel as guilty.

For ink, try to study the difference in behavior in all the material you have over simple tasks, like drawing long straight lines in every directions. Try to find what are the pros & cons of the material you've been accumulated, while gaining confidence & improving your line quality.
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Does anyone know the pen settings/brush settings to get the line quality like picrel? I've been trying to get lines that look like they've been done with a real pen (or I guess a g-pen), but so far my lines just look like cheap shit
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Best website to upload art? Not interested in being too social, just want to upload art and go
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Who curates the sticky?
why is android art not mentioned in there?
http://www.androidarts.com/art_tut.htm#focus_points
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>>5749679
again being obliterated by a typo ;-;
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anybody know other artists who use this technique, I've been really digging this https://www.tiktok.com/@chris_comicart/video/7028752774984715525
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im trying to learn to draw, been drawing daily for about 3 days now.
i try to draw things i see in real life and maybe some figure drawing. problem is its always so bad looking it makes me feel hopeless.
any tips on what to do to start improving your skills or is figure drawing and copying from real life enough to improve
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>>5750493
There's no way to not suck at the beginning, but here are some tips that will make you feel less hopeless:
- measure what you're observing with your pencil.
- practice confident lines. Chicken scratch can and will ruin your exercises.
- practice solid forms. The world is made of them, the more confident you are at drawing these the less trouble you'll have drawing from observation.

None of these tips are secrets, make the effort to read some books.
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>>5746272
I've been frequenting Drawthreads recently to get myself back into drawing

But the majority of requests are, what you might expect - I have a live in girlfriend and can tell she gets uncomfortable about some of the drawings I'm doing - and I try and choose the less obviously fetish bait stuff when I can.

Is there another place I can go for fun drawing ideas?

Pic related, it was my last drawing from the draw thread I was in.
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How the fuck do I add/draw clothes on a figure?
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>>5750545
Go to >>>/i/ if you wanna do some fun drawings with anons there
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>>5750493
Learning to draw is basically as hard as learning to play violon/(classical) guitar.

So, well, it's completely normal. Prepare to work hard for a few years; as >>5750536 said, read some books!
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>>5750626
1- master copies.

2- add drapery on top of a sphere, cube, cylinder. Setup those primitive forms in different positions, floating, on the ground. Add multiple forms. Do it from life/3D models & from imagination.

3-…

4. Profit.
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how do i retain information?
I studied anatomy for 3-4 days vigorously, got decently good about it, didn't study for 2 or 3 days after and now when i try to draw it from memory it looks like shit.
i remember a little bit of it. how do i retain more?
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>>5750626
Unfortunetly, you retain information subconciously. So yeah...
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>>5749014
Thanks I'll try to be retarded like him
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is there a "share pirated apps" general thread?

if not, where do people ask for such apps? the artbook thread?
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Will ctrl+paint teach me to work with layers and other skills I need to participate in drawfag threads?
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>>5750790
If you already can semi draw, if not then pick a fundie course from the video torrent thread.
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>>5750870
Oh yeah I am working through one right now. Thanks
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>>5750877
actually you know, waiting to get good only for a thread where an anon would be even lucky to receive a (you) is kinda dumb. I'll do that together with my course just for fun.
Not yet though, because I'm utter shit right now
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>>5750726
Well, if you ever tried to memorize poetry, that's the same thing. It will goes on and off, feels fresh and indestructible one day, and faint the next.

Repeat until it's engraved within you.
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Some artists draw something, say a face, and use all the fucking color available instead of different shades of tan. purple here, a bit of green, a bit of pink there...
What's it called? Chromatic aberration? Values with color? Shading?
Is there any quick and simple tutorial for me to learn it just for some drawing game, Jezza tier stupid simple?
Should I just fuck around myself with adding various colors and learn what works?

Yeah I am a retarded begshitter by the way
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>>5751016
I mean stuff like the art in Disco Elysium, maybe a bit more wild with the color selection. Is it just emulating brush-painting style with digital?
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>>5747967
What specifically do you mean by fluffy look on the rendering? What part of this are you asking about? It just looks like regular ass digital painting
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if you're 1 layer painting, how do you go about shading the areola? with the color change in the skin, if there's shadow on it, kinda breaks my brain.

i could just do the flat color, with the areola, and then multiply for an easy thing, but idk I just want to know if there's a method for the hard way
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>>5751030
>>5751016
nevermind, I've watched some videos and I think got it.
Too advanced stuff. Gotta do grayscale exercises and hope I get it intuitively eventually.
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>>5750787
anyone?
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>>5746272
I know nothing about coloring characters, I can't figure it out by self practice.

>Any good guides that explain the extreme basics of coloring.
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>>5751450
Just get character screenshot, use eye dropper tool.
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Do big whale paypig furries sexually get off on commissioning art?
If you were the one making art for them, would that creep you out?
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>>5746272
I look at watercolor art, some people may not be skillful, some people make be great, but I see no abject garbage

I look at oil painting, again, some aren't skillful, some are great, but none are abject garbage except for...

acrylic, all I see is abject dogshit, abstract garage, the sole oil paint I seen that was shit, I saw was 'acrylic and oil'

why the fuck is this? any other art medium could make just as shitty stuff but its only acrylic that does this?
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>>5746399
most artists draw and paint at a very high resolution, and then down sample for the final work

dipshit artists zoom in and work with large pixels. don't get me wrong, some times zooming in to get something just right is called for, but zooming in for everything is fucking stupid, work on a larger canvas.
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>>5747796
try making your own out of fishing line, if that fails, you are going to want huion or xpen, possibly a used wacom, but if you are third world that may still go for to much a premium.
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When it comes to copying a picture, reference or object for practice, does the drawing result needs to be 100% similar or just close enough the subject you tried to copy?
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What is dpi really about? is there any differences between 300dpi and 72dpi, should I care about it?
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>>5751766
People are intimidated by oils. Watercolors has a higher entry barrier [to create something decent].

Acrylics is what people learn to paint with; it's a tricky medium: it dries fast, cannot be re-activated, thus I suppose it doesn't encourage people to properly learn to mix colors nor give people the time to learn to paint properly.

People who sticks with acrylic for a long time aren't in proper conditions to learn the mediums.

In my opinion, acrylic's fast drying time makes it an advanced medium: you need to know how to play with that timing interval as you'd do with watercolor, you need not to lose time mixing paints to the correct colors, etc.

And usually, people who can handle watercolor or oils could go to acrylic, but if you've got skills, oils sell for more, and watercolor allows funny effect that are harder (impossible?) to reproduce with other mediums.

>>5751796
Yes & no. A 100% accurate copy is extremely demanding, difficult, tedious, and has little practical use:you barely ever need such accuracy when painting, light changes, models/you aren't perfectly still, etc.

However, 100% accurate copy is a *great* learning exercice. Doing a few of those can only be beneficial, but don't be "autistic" about it.

Be pragmatic.

>>5751929
Dots Per Inch: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dots_per_inch. The less dots, the more "pixelized" the outcome.
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>>5751477
Ofcourse, furry is really a fetish no matter how much they denied it
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>>5751477
Disturbing eh? Furry feels like the gateway to zoophilia.

In a few years maybe there'll be people like today's gays, complaining not to be able to marry their cats/kiss their dogs in public/being judged for banging horses/whatever.
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>>5746327
Reduce things you enjoy more is a good start. Starting with porn. You'll find that drawing will grow to fill that void and that it will become more fun than what you replaced
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how much construction is too much construction
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>>5752321
Skip to 1:42
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TZcW8wmmo4
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>>5748851
Any ideas to do this without constantly getting demotivated?
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Is this an actually effective way to git gud or just zoomerbait?

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CWq7_prAzbk/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
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>>5752524
This guy's noses are ugly, I wouldn't trust this westerner.
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How do you guys draw the chest as a cube? Do you have certain land marks that define the different planes?( Like the colar bones for the front plane? Or do you draw the cube and then insert a sphere within the cube? I have a really hard time with drawing cube for body parts cause I feel like I can never get the side planes of the cube correct. Any advice would be gold to me. Thanks /ic/.
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>>5752536
The chest is an egg shape, Hampton uses egg shape for both males and females and he is a master. All the landmarks then branch out from the sternum (sternum>colar bones>deltoid and so one). It's easier to rotate a sphere/egg than to rotate a cube too since it just needs one horizontal line (where the sternum goes)
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Do japanese artists even do construction at all? I've seen their concept of "rough sketch" (ラフ) and that thing is driving me crazy, like hell how is that supposed to help on understanding form?
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How long does it take to get out of int hell? Feel like beg -> int was quicker. Plus the beg thread was comfy af.
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>>5752652
Pretty much every single "How to Draw Manga" type book includes Loomis type construction
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>>5752653
How do I rotate a cube in space without perspective? That's the only thing keeping me stuck in beg.
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>>5752662
Like this.
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>>5752662
I did drawabox. Do 500 boxes over the next couple days and you’re done.
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What does /ic/ call “making it”?
Is it social media fame, being able to live off art even without social media fame or getting an industry job?
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>>5752665
praise be to krenz and his box
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>>5752670
Minimum 1,000 dollars per month from any of the e-begging services is making it.
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>>5752675
That’s a very low standard but I’m glad I’ve already “made it” then.
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>>5752683
Quick what's your best artist tip ever you would give your past self if you time traveled
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>>5752691
get serious sooner. never give up, take advantage of the wealth of resources on the internet
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Does Lazy Nezumi ever go on sale? Think it'll be on sale this week because of black friday?
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>>5752691
just draw and while watching FZD
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>>5752510
Can anyone help?
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>>5748858
This is great advice.
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>>5752994
tone down your expectation and keep reminding yourself that you are on the path of improvement and what you creating right now won't be the same thing that you will be creating in the future.

retard
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>>5748774
>Set lineart to normal
>Lock transparency
>Use soft brush to color that line art darker than the base color underneath
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>>5750057
I think it's the chromatic magentas and polishing I don't understand. My drawings are all very raw-feeling because I don't understand all the technical tools with digital art and effects. Maybe I should check out some tutorials or courses, that might be the way
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>>5746272
there this one drawing guide I lost due to hard drive broke it had a touhou character on it and showed the level of important skills someone needed to learn to become good at art I really need it and if anyone have it please send it
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I think I'm stuck on proko beans. I've done a few pages of practice, although I can imagine twisted objects, and people, I can't get my head around actually drawing the beans
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>>5753185
It's just the rib cage, hips, and the meat in between though. Take the two forms, consider the corners, twist. Can you post your work? Might help people to help you.
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How to go from int to pro?
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>>5753199
>Can you post your work?
No camera, and no tablet atm. I'm working off a lined paper notepad. I do have a mobile phone with a camera, but it's pretty old and all it'll pick up is a white blurry rectangle.

I understood your explanation and proko's explanation, it's actually doing it without drawing a bunch of unrelated lines that I don't understand, not the concept. As of 20 minutes ago, I've tried stuffing a sock and copying the twist and tilt lines that way. I think I kind of understand how to draw them without copying, now, but I think I should practice with the sock for a full hour first before stopping and seeing if I get it with picture of a bare figure.
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>>5753220
If it helps you, maybe you could practice a few with just two cubes first. Draw two cubes then imagine a fat sheet of fabric covering/connecting them. This is just a really quick mock up. I think the 10th rib and hip bone landmarks are helpful, and I always think of them as corners of boxes. Maybe this type of visualization might help?
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how do i draw like this
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>>5753041
I'm pretty sure this isn't necessarily a matter of digital tooling. You could perfectly reproduce this piece with trad medias.

There are small touches of white on the water to reflect clouds that feels like white scumbling. The magenta touches also have this "coming forward" feeling, they also chromatically respond to the warm, chromatic refleted lights.

Hum, now that I think of it, there's a strong yin-yang motif: source of light in the "center" of a the dark forest area, and the small "island" among the blues, all separated by a curvy line.

Also, the clouds are very sharp, the water is very calm;the clouds reflects in water: reflections always have a strong appeal, and will likely impact us considerably.

I let you push the analysis further, I can't do it all for you ;-)

Captcha: HAV8N
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>>5753041
>>5753282
(cont.) have a look at composition courses;for digital funky coloring stuff, Marco Bucci has a few things e.g. on YouTube.
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What do you use your stylus buttons for anons?
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>>5753311
one for switching foreground and background color
another for uhhhhhhhhh still haven't decided after three years of drawing
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>>5753311
Double click and right click
I know someone who has redo and undo though
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>>5753311
middle mouse click and right click
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So one drawing of mine recently blew up and a guy seems interested on getting a commission, he wants me to draw a dragon or anthro rubbing its snout or sniffing around. I don't really have a problem with this but I am curious if this is some kind of fetish art. It is really specific and the client has like a ton of sketches of different anthros scratching their noses.
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>>5753515
>single-minded obsession of a specific activity
gee i dunno, what do you think?
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>>5753525
I'm into weird stuff but I have no clue on how someone gets hard from nose scratching
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I wanna fuck. How do I channel the carnal desire into drawing sessions? Should I draw coom or something serene and soothing instead? Or maybe something else?
>dude just masturbate
no
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What the fuck is up between Gabe and that Anaugi guy?
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>>5753598
something serene
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Is there a simple way to learn how to color digitally? even simple coloring I was watching and read some tutorials but it seems a bit over my head with the number of layers they use, then inverting everything and coloring I feel like they skip a step or two or it's just me missing something.

I'm going to give this one a try and then see if I like the results.
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How do I apply figure drawing principles to stylization?
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So here is the problem:
I draw a box in 3-point perspective.
I pick the vanishing points and draw the box.
Now I want to draw another box that is rotated 20° clockwise from the first one for example.
How do I find the accurate vanishing points of the second box?
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Can a regular picture be turned into 4 5 or 6 point or is it not possible just like how a globe cant properly be diplayed on a 2d surface
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>>5754175
Boxes that share the same horrizontal plane are called a group, group 1. If you rotate a box, it's group 2. If you put the group 2 box next to the group 1 box, it'll tip over. So you need to do the whole perspective rigamaroll for the group 2 box(s). Proko finds it complicated and just tells you to outright ignore making guidelines and learn to rotate boxes without the guidelines, freehanded.
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>>5754190
I am shit at drawing but I want to do things right. This answer feels very dissatisfactory but maybe I got everything backwards.
Thanks you none the less.
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>>5753979
Yeah, that works.
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How am I supposed to learn how to draw EVERYTHING in an image? Take this painting, for example. In it, we have men, women, and children in various outfits outdoors in the day, near a forest with a lake, with steps leading up to a viewing area or something that has a flag draped over it. That's environment, people, and architecture, and I know I'm greatly oversimplifying it. How am I supposed to learn how to draw all of this? Am I even allowed to dream about being able to draw all of this, or do I shut up and focus on doing only one thing?
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>>5754379
Practice drawing from real life and copying images like that. You won't be able to paint something like that very quickly but you can get better with pencil studies
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>>5754386
>very quickly
I didn't expect to be able to do it that well anytime soon, but I was hoping I could at least do some pop-anime stuff a few years down the line.

So it all comes down to drawing from real life? I wasn't sure if there was some book or trick I could learn from to break it all down. It doesn't help that there are a lot of things I want to learn how to draw and so I end up getting stuck.
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>>5754410
>pop-anime stuff
Try to copy one image you like that's not too complicated without tracing, while using the same approach you use when you're drawing fully from imagination. So construction, sketch etc.
That could show you what you need to draw all that stuff.
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>>5754410
Drawing from life not only teaches you the basics of perspective, but it also helps you with learning composition. The problem with only studying from books, tutorials or other educational materials is that it trains your eye to only see things in isolation. This is why it's so hard for many artists today to make complete images instead of a character slapped on a plain background or floating in a white void. Reality isn't like that. Your own room and posessions have its own character and can be just as expressive as a drawing of a person.

None of this is to say you should never use educational materials if you need them, but don't let them be your main source to learn from. Especially not if you want to create multi-figure compositions like the one you posted. Combine life drawing and with your technical studies for a more rounded self-study course. There is no get gud quickly trick. You need to do lots of observing and drawing until you reach your milestone
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>>5754421
Well, I know that, but I'm trying to have a stronger foundation than that so copying anime feels counterproductive.

>>5754441
>This is why it's so hard for many artists today to make complete images instead of a character slapped on a plain background or floating in a white void.
Well damn, so that's why it feels like an accomplishment to see characters actually interacting with the environment.
>Reality isn't like that. Your own room and posessions have its own character and can be just as expressive as a drawing of a person.
It's true. I've taken a lot of photos of the skyline alone and I see so many changes with the seasons and I couldn't understand why others, people who clearly know how to draw more than I do, don't understand that.

>Combine life drawing and with your technical studies for a more rounded self-study course. There is no get gud quickly trick. You need to do lots of observing and drawing until you reach your milestone
That works. Having said that, are there any study techniques you'd recommend I look up to help me, in case I don't know what I'm doing while I attempt to draw from life?
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How do I learn how to draw sex without popping a boner and jacking off like crazy?
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>>5754452
Just start drawing. You don't need too much hand holding in the beginning. Try your best to recreate what you see. After a month or so you should get comfy with your own mark-making. The books in the sticky aren't that bad. Use Hamptons book on figure drawing to help you understand people you observe. Loomis' Successful Drawing is decent guide for everything else. Composition is a tricky thing to read about as every artist has their own approach. Devin Korwin has a PDF series about art basics on artstation that's pretty good, but it might be a little too technical for beginners. I don't draw anime so I can't make any specific recommendations other than just copying the artists you like. There are a ton of anime tutorials out there so you can pick one you find appealing when you're ready for that.
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>>5754463
Ssri’s
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>>5754495
But then I lose the passion to draw erotic acts.
What references am I supposed to use?
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>>5754499
You’ll lose the passion eventually anyway. It’s a good practice for professional work.
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how am i supposed to get better as a self-taught artist? i watch a lot of videos, read a lot of books, try to get friends advice. i've learned a lot but i feel like im just fumbling around and not really improving overall
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i may have the dumbest question of all time: could walking on all fours for an extended period of time make drawing gains? it apparently builds forearm and hand muscles, could it prevent wrist pain or carpal tunnel?
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>>5754605
/fit/ /ic/ is a legitimate field of inquiry, and one I share
what are the best ways to get gainz while also getting gainz as an artist?
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How do I learn to draw when I get awful intrusive thoughts that upset me and totally distract me?
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>>5754614
Just listen to Japanese music.
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This will sound like incredibly stupid...but how to i draw straight lines?
What kind of movement should the arm make?

https://drawabox.com/lesson/1/superimposedlines

My results look like the errors here, even worse.
My lines are not precise at all and they are all over the place, wobbling way worse than even the wrong example here.
It is such a critical, basic skill and i can't get it correctly.
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>>5754633
You need to think and act like a Samurai using his katana. Didn't you see this guy's (draw a box) YouTube videos?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzGmoJanhbQ
Skip to 1:00
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Will stimulants help me learn to draw?
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What's a good study pattern if I want to learn how to draw, but I'm balancing it against things I have as a higher priority, like work, learning other skills, etc.?
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>>5754330
Happy to hear. Likely requires more will, but in the long run, should be more profitable.

>>5754379
Take it one step at a time. *Anyone* can quickly get some experience from such a piece; ignoring all the details (squint):

- make a 2 value study
- then a 3 and a 5 value studies
- take each of the previous study, and redo them adding only temperature (brown/black/white)

From there, you can take a bigger sheet of canvas/paper, and detailing a few steps further.

>>5754598
Master copies. Grind' em boy.

>>5754605
Make 20sec pause every 5min, relaxing your wrist/arm.

>>5754614
What do you do when you work and such things happen? If you need to put food on the table, you can't let such things happen right?

>>5754633
Learning straight lines *is* a difficult skill to get, it can takes months of training until you get fine control on all the muscles involved. The good thing is that it isn't necessary to go this far to create decent art.

Try to learn to control the "fraying" at both ends; learn to draw lines only with the wrist/only with the elbow/only with the shoulder/with combinations of those

>>5754656
Good sleep, good food, a bit of exercise.

>>5754658
Learning art is hard, slow. Think of it as learning violin or classical guitar. With this in your mind, try to practice daily, say at least 1h, and try to have a few 3h/4h sessions per week. To give you an idea, professional classical guitarist take 30min to *warm-up*:

https://youtu.be/ZzyWhkXcApc?t=100
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>>5755024
no one ever replies to me or gives me thanks when I did mass replies in the past, so im breaking the pattern and replying to you!
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>>5755026
Thanks, I appreciate, but honestly, as long as it's useful to some I don't mind being/not being thanked.

That's a good aspect of anonymity, you don't leave a trace, nobody knows you, people are more or less constrained to evaluate you on a few messages at most, and not on past relations, reputations or whatever.

Have a good one!
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any examples of artists who break perspective? like intentionally creating extreme distortion
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>>5755026
Thank you anon we appreciate you and your efforts
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>>5755043
Not sure what you're looking for, but traditional Asian paintings?
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>>5755043
it almost always never looks good, it's always making perspective more extreme, like curvilinear perspective. But isometric perspective might be worth looking into
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>>5746272
Is there a way to transform multiple layers simultaneously in Krita?
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>>5755024
>redo them adding only temperature (brown/black/white)
One Brown for warm tones or use one warm and cool brown? I've only done value studies before, color temperature is something new to me.
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Will Patreon ban me if ill post drawings that they don't like on other social media like twitter and pixiv, For example I already have an account on Pixiv filled with fetish hardcore stuff but I want to post my vanilla stuff on Patreon with the same Name as my Pixiv account filled with stuff that violates their community guidelines, will that make them buthurt and ban me? I did read their rules and I didn't find any mention that if I open a patreon page I should not post anything that they don't like on other social media, but I heard rumors of it.
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>>5755149
Yes. Anything that links to patreon must comply with its rules
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>>5755127
>transform multiple layers simultaneously in Krita
select the layers and group them with Ctrl+G and then select the group an hit ctrl+t
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>>5755152
okay, but how come there are Japanese artist posting for years bestiality drawings with no problem, I thought that Japanese artists are an exception but I also seen some russian posting loli mmd porn on patreon for a couple of years
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>>5755157
Thank you
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If someone could put together a multiple element composition study/challenge fhag would be great

I mean, a few shapes, a single figure and a background. I see a lot of technique building on ic but not a lot of *creativity* outside the manga artists. Plz someone do this, id do it myself but wagie.
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>>5755140
Most black are rather cool. Hence, black+white will give you something rather cool, especially if you're not playing with transparency.

Adding a bit of brown will allow you to mix grays that are less cool (warmer then), thus allowing you a two-dimensional mixing spaces: from warm (brown) to cool (black), and from dark (brown/black) to light (white). All while staying in a rather neutral zone, with cheap/available pigments.

Typically, if you go outside and observe some shadow e.g. on a wall, or the cast shadow on a tree, you can usually observe temperature variation (in addition to minor value variations): the places with reflected lights tend to be warmer; the places light by the blue sky are cooler, etc.

This is a good way to add some diversity on top of a value study, and a good way to start working your grays handling, which is a major skills for a realistic painter.
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Which is the faster way to perspective mastery? Picrel or Erik Olson's NMA course?
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What determines how much paper buckles with watercolours? I always thought thinner buckles more and heavier less, but I tried a 300 gsm paper and it buckles more than my regular 250 gsm.
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>>5754633
Keep doing the homework to the best of your ability. The next exercise page will have a video or two about how not to have your lines curve
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>>5755369
which ever one you stick with
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>>5755369
this ones better
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I want to learn how to draw, but I have clinically diagnosed dysgraphia.
I'm thinking I should learn how to draw digitally first. Any tips on software?
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>>5755402
>I always thought thinner buckles more and heavier less
This is overall true. I've observed that e.g. with big washes, the paper wraps uniformly, while with smaller washes, the paper wraps locally, creating puddles and such (300gsm, 100% cotton).

But, buckling on a 300gsm paper shouldn't be too much of a problem: put the paper at an angle, let the water drop down, and you should be able to have some decent control over the wetness. Though, some paper behave better than others in that regard.

When it's framing time, I think there are techniques to un-buckle the paper, e.g. by wetting the other side & letting dry pressed on a flat surface; YouTube may have more complete advises.

>>5755369
>the faster way
The source of knowledge will play for like 5 to 10% of the time you need;that's negligible compared to actually going through either courses, doing the exercices, applying, making sure you understand, and your innate abilities, which you can't really control anyway.

That's to say, the best recourse you have to increase your speed to mastering perspective is to work hard; other recourses won't really matters.
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>>5746272
best colour temperature for screen for digital art?
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why the hard round brushu?
what wrong with using soft brush to blend and erasing for hard edges desu?
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>>5755483
Factory default, don't worry about colors unless you buy those expensive color calibration kits.
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>>5755542
Soft brush imprints bad habits.

The exact same exists in trad, regarding using a stomp for graphite, such tools are often abused by beginners, and they never properly take the time to understand how to render form accurately.

Using a more primitive tool (hard round / sharpen graphite) forces you to slowly go over the form, and make sure you understand it all.

When you're a bit more advanced, you can take shortcuts, and the results won't look bad.
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>>5746272
How do I color/render l like pic related?
In the form of an infograph if you have it.
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>>5755679
It's hard round brush and blending right?
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How long It takes to reach 5 digits followers on social media in general? What exactly should I do other than being already good?
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>>5755850
Type your favorite artist into socialblade and study the graphs. If I had to guess, it's all about luck in the end though.
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>>5755024
>Learning art is hard, slow. Think of it as learning violin or classical guitar. With this in your mind, try to practice daily, say at least 1h, and try to have a few 3h/4h sessions per week. To give you an idea, professional classical guitarist take 30min to *warm-up*:
Thanks, I was thinking about something like this. So how often would you suggest? Maybe three days of longer study sessions a week?
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Think i’m “good enough” to start on a comic or some sort of story but i have no social media presence.

Tips/resources for just getting your stuff published and hopefully read?
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>>5756061
In Japan, when people want something to be read, they go along with whatevers popular in the moment. Fight mangos (dbz)>slice of lifes (k-on)>isekais (sword art online)>and whatever is after isekai which hasnt happened yet...
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What's the right sequence to start learning the basics of drawing?
drawabox->drawing on the right side of the brain->keys to drawing->fun with a pencil?
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>>5756074
>fun with a pencil
You're drawing 250 boxes just to be able to draw wierd old men? Top zozzle! For me I went
draw a box>brent eviston>micheal hampton
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>>5756080
>brent eviston>micheal hampton
what do these mean, what books
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>>5756051
As often as possible, but play the long game.

Better to do it once or twice a week for 2 to 3 months and increase after, than burning out after two weeks doing it 3 to 4 times a week.

>>5756074
What do you want to draw? Basically, pick:

- a book that will explain to you what a plumb line, how to measure, etc. ;
- a book on composition;
- a book on perspective;
- a book teaching you to decompose complex forms into simple forms

Once you've got something decent out of the first one, start doing master copies.

>>5756088
Not him but Eviston IIRC is often quoted for his perspective course, and Hampton for his figure drawing course.

But other people only swear by Vilppu, so...
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Question to anons who goes to art school :
What did they teach there? Are they more or less the same as the stuffs you can find on the board sticky and Mega here?
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Do they let you draw in prison?
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>>5756312
>perspective course
Is it Form & Space / 3D Drawing & Perspective?
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>>5756555
never been an inmate but it probably depends on country to country and what you are being imprisoned for.
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>>5746690
If you just want to archive them make a private discord server with just urself in it and post all the drawings there
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>>5748851
Draw it! When you eventually get better with pratice you'll be able to go back and redraw it how you actually wanted it to look
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How would you begin to paint/draw pic related? Biggest shapes first? Forward working back? Just pick a random starting point? Busy scenes like this stump me. I just don't know how to get going.
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>>5756708
I don't think it's a good idea to draw this as it is. I mean a hefty part of the ref is just dark and convey no emotion whatsoever. So I would change it and assign an emotion be it greed, "I'm coming home through known comfy streets after long hours", "navigating unknown streets to meet a prostitute", "I'm a spy, meeting my contact for the first time", etc. Go wild!
It's emotion(s) that are evoked in a viewer that define art, not the picture in itself.
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>>5756683
but will the discord police swoop in if he posts loli with nobody around?
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>>5756714
But a nice picture, in and of itself, evokes emotion.
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>>5756816
Nice picture is by definition a picture than evokes "it's nice" motion upon observing. Are you retarded?
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A true stupid question: how/where do I find simple illustrations like pic related to practice shape accuracy? The only things I have are images of anime girls that might be too complex to start out with
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If you can imagine 1 easily, do you have what it takes to draw?
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Could one of y’all help me understand why the eye in this wip looks so flat? Go easy pls I’ve been drawing for less than a month ;-;
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>>5756867
you're appear to be treating the eye like it's a flat object with two slits around it, when you gotta think of it more like a ball with the lids sticking out and wrapping around it.
perhaps you could look at an asaro head picture, or take some playdough/clay and model how it would look to get a better understanding.
(this is more nit picky, but with eyelashes less is more and you might want to save them for last.)
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>>5756865
for me it's a mix between 2-4, sometimes the image I want to see flashes vividly (a 2) but in less than a second it became a 4, I have ADHD by the way.
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Successful artists on Twitter interact with their followers, but how do you cope if they're the kind of people you'd actively distance yourself from?
Do you still interact with neurodivergent gay teenager/anarchist/blmbltlgbt/tranny followers?

Seems like it'd be a pain to me. Firstly you gotta pretend to be nice, and second you could get cancelled by these same followers for being too different.
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>>5756925
You start spamming redpilled art, duh. That'll help you cultivate your preferred audience really quickly.
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>>5756930
That makes sense, but what if I'm not redpilled myself? I just want to make art that makes me happy and not interact with the mentally ill.
Should I still make politically incorrect art to not make followers too comfortable with me being nice then.
I think both extremes can be equally obnoxious.
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>>5756934
See-saw back and forth rapidly, then. Post one image of troons necking themselves while nazis laugh at them and follow it up with nazi chuds seething to death at trannies, implying or showing that one or the other(or both) is imagining the other suffering a cruel fate.
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>>5755475
Yep I know ways to prevent buckling and unbuckle afterwards, just haven't ever tried them because the other paper I've been using doesn't buckle much. My interested in this is more theoretical, what is it about this thicker paper that makes it buckle so much more.
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>>5756937
That's not bad actually.
But yeah. I've been lurking around twitters of old drawfags from here and I see quite a lot of their followers having that bullshit in their profiles.
I guess another option would be to just not use twitter at all
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please recommend free exercises resources I can do with a pencil to learn values. I'm committed to finish drawabox, so I won't touch values anytime soon, but I want to learn a bit about values for my own fun art stuff.
I'd like more stuff like this:
https://youtu.be/ZTRYW7Lmdb4
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>>5756888
>like it's a flat object with two slits around it, when you gotta think of it more like a ball with the lids sticking out and wrapping around it.
>perhaps you could look at an asaro head picture, or take some playdough/clay and model how it would look to get a better understanding.
>(this is more nit picky, but with eyelashes less is more and you might want to save them for last.)
Thanks, I’ll mess around with some 3D models
definitely gonna redo the eyelashes, like you said, they’re a bit much
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>>5756708
I'd start with greyscale 2 value big shapes first, then build up color and value variety doing most work in the lights value. Though I'd leave it pretty rough since it's so complex.
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Is art really subjective?
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>>5757060
If you want to think...
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>>5757060
Of course art is subjective, it’s insane that people argue about that on here
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How long do ballpoint refills (like the Parker G2 style, say for ex. Parker quinkflow) last in storage? Say I buy a pack of 10 refills, and each refill lasts me a month, can I store some of those refills for 6+ months without them drying or otherwise losing quality? Do they require special storage? Or is it better to only buy refills when your current one is running out?
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Any downside using acrylic ink opposed to regular inks? Don’t really see people talk about it
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How do I get better at rendering? Should I really spend time painting greyscale boxes and spheres? Will that actually help with learning how to paint or is there a better method?
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Are you supposed to do all of these at the same time? pic related
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>>5757726
If you want to be like a human printer, yeah.
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>>5757077
You might want to consider getting india ink in a large cylinder container, and looking up videos on YouTube on how to replace the ink instead.

Personally, I used to like the G2's as well, but I think the Sharpie S-Gel 0.7mm is FAR superior fyi. They're super cheap, and the black dye used just STAYS. Its nice.
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>>5757122
From what I've gathered from most of the early courses I've skimmed, its better to really practice light and shadow boxes with different value tones from 1 to 5, 1 to 7 different shades, etc.
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>>5757748
I just want my stuff to look accurate enough for an impressive portfolio so I can get into art school
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>>5757726
Yes. The goal is to be able to do most of it in your head and just eyeball a lot of it. Most artists develop their own version of measurement or blocking in after learning the basic system.
I would advise to do slow drawings where you actively about using each one and take as long as it takes to get everything measured.
In between each slow drawing session, do a session of quick drawings where you just draw whatever way comes naturally but try to think about the angles/verticals/horizontals/negative shapes while drawing.

Also don't listen to the "human printer" retard. If you want to draw from imagination then you need to draw from reference to have something to actually put into your visual library aka imagination. Just looking at something is not enough to be able to draw it without reference.
The more accurate you can draw something from reference, the better you can recreate that reference from memory and then manipulate it using perspective and design fundamentals to draw it from imagination from any angle.
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>>5757771
It's kinda weird they only accept people already good. Isn't the point of art school to learn to draw? I guess it'd be good for making connections, but I'd save my money.
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>>5757779
Some schools just want to see that you have an interest and dedication to drawing. There's plenty of short 8 week portfolio prep or life drawing courses you can go to if you want to go from 0 experience to good enough for a generic art school.

It makes sense for entertainment design courses for example to have higher requirements though since they don't teach you beginner stuff like an atelier style place might. They start figure drawing and environment perspective from day 1 which might be too much if you have no experience.

Some schools do have ridiculous requirements and just want to maintain their reputation for good graduates so they only take people that don't even really need to attend their course. The Imperial Academy of Arts, St Petersburg in russia for example people attend ateliers building portfolios for up to 4 years before being able to attend sometimes.
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>>5755580
I get it.
It just seems like such a waste of fuckn time when you are trying to blend.
I can probably shave down hours if I just use the soft round instead of trying to blend smoothly with a hard one
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>>5755580
so for example, I drew two cylinders (I'm /beg/ so plz understand).
Why would I waste my time trying to blend with the hard round when doing it with the soft round just looks better and smoother with less time spent?
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How do I apply perspective knowledge on drawing characters or animals?
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>>5757901
Haha, you don't need to use those guidelines and all that when drawing characters, it's too mathmatical and thus complciated, did you not see proko?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uEtdDvK6Xo
Skip to 5:20
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Idiots guide to color theory? Aside from using coolors, palleton, canvas, and adobe to just make em? Trying to learn more on theory so anything like Betty Edwards's book would help.

Idiots guide to body shapes? Like the difference in the muscles between a bodybuilder and someone doing strength training? I know that Athlete book by Howard Schatz exists but still can't find a pdf of it.
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How do I trick myself to drawing?!
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>>5757821
Cause the one on the right looks bad and can't easily be fixed but the one on the left is technically correct and can be fixed by softening some edges.
That's why it is advised to always work hard to soft.
Also you did the value ranges differently on each cylinder. If you look at the thumbnail or squint your eyes you can see this.
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I can draw a box.
Does that mean I can make it?
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>>5758576
But can you twitst and bend the box to the exact shape and angle you want in space without the use of perspective lines?
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>>5757067
Is the corollary to this "I am beginning" or "I am beginning to"?
>>5756925
step 1: make your male and female characters recognizably so, and with normal hair colors
step 2: don't put pronouns in your bio
troons and children will no longer follow you. good luck getting audience engagement on twitter after this.
>>5754656
coffee and cigs
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How do I keep paint "inside the lines" on sai2?
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>>5758735
top:Paint layer (layer style: multiply)
bottom:Line layer

Then paint while keeping the lines in mind. You can paint over the lines this way. If you unsee the line layer the paint will look sloppy but it'll look okay with the line layer on.
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>>5758738
I don't want to paint over the lines. I want the paint to be contained within the lineart so I don't have to constantly erase to keep things clean
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>>5755369
read through some of this, its very informative but a very stiff read
it teaches perspective in its most general manner with few examples of its uses
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>>5758556
thanks.
Sorry for being brainlet and arlet but I want to understand.
What makes the left technically correct? Wouldn't the one one the left will look like the right with enough blending anyway?
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>>5746272
Is it okay to make thread about possibly traced art? With collective intelligence of /ic/ we might catch some art thief
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>>5758768
nta and I just started learning this stuff but I think you want a mixture of hard and soft edges to look more natural. You also want to have control over the brush pattern you are laying down.
With the default hard round you can still vary the size of the brush manually and how long you touch the canvas with the brush to vary the brush strokes pattern even without any fancy custom brush settings for shape dynamics or texture.
Soft brushes have their place but you need to consider that perfect gradients look unnatural and it will look off unless you layer some hard edges on top of it (usually with highlights and the transition between halftone and core shadow).

The placement, proportion and size of hard and soft edges are essentially how you define textures and materials so if you do it without thinking about it you might paint skin as though it is plastic or metallic or fuzzy like a tennis ball.

Most artists use custom brushes with built in textures to get the speed of the soft brush but still have some hard edges. But if you use custom brushes that someone else made you aren't using them with any knowledge of why and where to use them and where not to use them so you end up just making everything look like the same material again.

I advise learning the various settings that you can mess with to change brush settings and then study zoomed in high resolutions versions of art you like and try to notice their brush strokes and use of hard vs soft edges.
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Any paint software that actually tries to emulate real drawing processes, like eraser smudges when you're trying to erase and a gradual degradation of the paper you're working on until you have to give up entirely?
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>>5759152
The Worst Of Both Worlds
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>>5757752
Thanks, I'll look into it
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>>5758878
Thanks a lot anon.
I think I understand desu
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>>5756665
Not sure; I'd go for the second one, but I'm no Eviston all-knower. Depends on what you want to learn too.

>>5756941
Perhaps try to observe/compare the way it drinks water? There are different way to size watercolor papers (surface, deep, both, one side/two sides, etc.), maybe this can influence.

>>5756975
Learn to draw accurate/precise spheres. Look for tutorials on that precise matter.

>>5757122
Yes;but take it slow.

>>5757821
>>5757805
The values on the second one are "caricatural": they convey the meaning, but they lack precision. Acting as a printer is a bad way to do art, but a good way to learn to appreciate such subtleties: the changes in values are minute, and are better achieved with fine tools.

Also >>5758878 ("texturing")

>>5758544
Try to find some motivation to enjoy doing it. Like, relaxing moment?

>>5757983
> Idiots guide to color theory
Assuming trad:

1. Opposite colors mixes to gray
2. Use a simple palette first; conceptualize your palette through primaries (most yellow color, most red color, most blue color, most white color)
3. make color swatches to evaluate possibilities of a palette
4. learn to vary value while keeping hue/saturation
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This is a long conceptual question, divided in 3 posts.

1/3

Should i really follow drawabox exercises if using digital medium if tools exist that help skip? (stylus/drawing tablet with no screen)

Drawabox seems like a art supplies funded website, they claim to be up thanks solely to patreon, yet they outright REFUSE to review anything done without buying physical art kits and done physically and have said art tools as ads. That or they outright refuse to acknowledge digital as a valid medium.

This is my "improvement" over some days only doing lines (that's not all, just took some lines of every day in 1 image).

I can get much better results with assist tools, as can see in the next 2 replies.
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2/3

Drawabox exercises involve:

1. Doing lines to improve accuracy and straightness: https://drawabox.com/lesson/1/superimposedlines
2. Doing ellipses on a plane: https://drawabox.com/lesson/1/tablesofellipses

Using lazy nezumi pro i can just do perfect lines ideal for lineart, straight lines, straight lines with pulse (no ruler can do that physically) and ellipses of any kind, instantaneously.

The first line is my hand, the second LNP, the ellipse and square are LNP.

I know drawabox tries to explain perspective, i know i have to learn that and have the books for it, this is NOT about that, this is specifically about "should i spend weeks/months struggling to properly do curves/lines and other precise strokes manually when i could i just use a tool?"
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3/3

It's not just about straight lines or ellipses in squares, a tool can drastically improve the pulse so you get waves perfectly as can see here.

It would take lots of training to get this control, yet a tool lets you have it in seconds, but since there is very little material aimed at how to start drawing digitally and drawabox is obnoxiously elitist in terms of mediums, i don't know to which degree should i use tools and when to struggle.

You can even get mecha like "squared lines" with tools, drastically lowering the time needed to draw robots and the like.

Feels like i am an idiot to practice lines, squares, ellipses and the like every day when a tool exists right there for perfect lines.
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>>5759244
That DAB guy just wants to sell ya pens and supplies. Especially in these times where everyones inside bored. Don't feel ashamed using tools that can't be used in the traditional sense. If Leonardo DaVinci, the guy who invented drawing knew about LNP, he'd be rolling in his grave.
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>>5758735
>>5758767
plz help
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Has anyone used Blockx, Michael Harding and Old Holland? I'm really leaning towards the first for oil paints and if you could also compare their watercolor against W&N I'd appreciate it

I want to find more information online but seems like barely anyone ever uses them
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Is drawing with stabilizer "bad"? I've been drawing digitally for years but I only recently heard that it's not recommended, can someone explain to me why?
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>>5759387
It makes your drawings look robotic.
Even Kim Jung has squiggly lines when he draws, but it still shows confidence.
The only time I use the stabilizer is for certain areas of lineart and the eraser tool.
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>>5759198
Accurate precise spheres like value spheres? I see a few things on youtube on that. I already done the basic art of wei one. Sure I'll do some more different ones i can see how it'll help.
To be honest I haven't done the one in the proko video I've posted. I'll get to it after doing some spheres
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>>5759387
If you can learn to control your lines without it, it'll make you better than your peers. Like the other anon said it makes your drawings look too stiff and "perfect" when without stabilizers there will be natural imperfections. I practiced by drawing in traditional ink pen for a long time and trying to do longer individual strokes. Draw a lot of nonsense shapes but just keep it one continuous line. Could even turn that random shape into further studying by wrapping it in contour lines and practicing abnormal forms. Lead to me drawing even more lines and improving them even further.
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>>5759387
>>5759548
>>5759603
Don't ever draw with stabilizers, ironically I had the same problem where as I started using CSP my lines were too rigid and pixelated looking, turns out they all had stabilizers but once that was switched off (specially in the hidden settings) it felt like a hot knife through butter
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>>5759617
Yeah when I first heard of stabilizers I was already long past the need for them. I wish less people used them honestly. It always looks so much more, for lack of a better word, "soulful" and like there was effort put in. It feels like every line is hand drawn... Because it is! But when I see drawings done with stabilizers I think those only really work for really stylized styles. Like PantyStocking's art style where the stiffness is intentional... And even then that stiffness would like way better without stabilizers. And waaaaay faster too.
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>>5759244
>>5759240
>>5759235
thanks for shilling a demonstration, Ill buy it when I got the shekels
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>>5759380
For oils, I'd recommend to use a cheaper brand at brand (Rembrandt, L&B).

Old Holland oils are *great*, but expensive;at first you'll want something you can easily waste to build up some skills. By contrast, you'll also appreciate more oil paints with higher pigmentations.

I only have quickly use a brown (raw umber IIRC) OH watercolor; pigments react differently from one another, and sometimes from one manufacturer from another.

Like, W&N venitian red is really intense, only need a touch of a wet brush on the cake to be activated; but their red oxide need to be worked before being usable in cakes.

I suppose overall, you should expect higher pigmentation from OH also in watercolor, so the paint is likely to spread better. Other characteristics, I expect them to be relatively similar.
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>>5759551
Spheres like, a white polystyrene ball under some lightning that you try to copy with the accuracy of a printer.

Look for fine artists like https://www.youtube.com/c/stephenbaumanartwork
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>>5759548
>>5759603
>>5759617
Thanks anons, this is very helpful, I've been trying to not use it lately and my lines are coming out a bit wobbly, should I just keep going until I'm comfortable or are there any tips to get used to it more quickly?
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For anyone who is still here, what are you buying for cyber monday?
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>>5760160
Look up line art practice exercises. Maybe start studying hatching. Just keep at it and make sure you're avoiding doing chicken scratch lines. Practicing form like in image related might help too
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>>5760160
>>5760783
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>>5760788
I'll try this, thank you!
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What kind of brush do I need in CSP to get this effect?
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Is it worth spending the money to take a brainstorm school course or should I just tough it out and look for free courses?
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Okay so I have a mostly done drawing (took me 10 hours jesus christ), and I want to fully color it, but I'm not really sure how to go from this stage to the next. I've never done grayscale painting before and I am totally lost when it comes to layer masks and such. I need something I can do to just finish this up super quick because I'm getting tired of working on it
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>>5761294
Also excuse me for calling this "grayscale." I'm not really worrying about values or anything and I'm purely just thinking in shadows
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>>5761294
At the most basic, given I don't know your full image, but make the background all one pale tone and get one brighter tone and fill in your focus characters. The background's tone just has to be decently darker so it makes the focus points stand out against the background. If you want to add shadows or highlights, make sure you identify your light source.

https://youtu.be/QksT7-Nz85c
https://youtu.be/7fLV5ezO64w
https://youtu.be/gwLQ0cDb4cE
These videos might be helpful to you
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>>5759387
These anons
>>5759617
>>5759638
are half wrong, stabilizers are incredibly useful tools that often become crutches for new artists. Disable them fully for the first couple years of drawing; then come back to them when you are more skilled
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>>5761339
Respectfully asking for artist examples where they learned to draw without stabilizers and then decided to use them when they became more skilled. That doesn't sound right to me and I've never met an int.+ level artist that did this.
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>>5760148
I have been painting for a while but only in digital and basic oils and watercolor, you know stuff you can get at your general store, I can tackle bigger projects hence that's why I was asking for high end brands and this really helped a lot, if you really have any word on Blockx thought that'd be great else I'll go with OH, I was planing to also get tubes rather than pans
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im
>>5759617
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>>5761376
just in case, original / default stabilization / lazy nezumi without stabilization / lazy nezumi with stabilization, default stabilization is set by speed and 2 on the stabilization bar
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>>5752994
Reframe your thinking about the "end product": Treat it more as an intermediate step if it looks bad. Take the time to dissect what exactly isn't working, focus on improving those things and do it again. Rinse, repeat.
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I don't understand grayscale painting. Are you supposed to know what colors you're going to use before you paint? If so then why not just use those colors



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