This is a thread to discuss all kinds of digital drawing hardware: non-display graphics tablets, pen display tablets, portable tablets and more.If you have any additional questions, ask them.>Recommended tablets:Intuos 3 - Best screenless tablet. Look for one on Craigslist or Ebay.Intuos 4, 5 & Pro - Also good options. Will burn through your nibs.Samsung Galaxy Tab S6 Lite - Budget portable display tablet. Very solid drawing experience with Wacom EMR tech, but a small 10.4" display area.Used iPad Pro 2nd Gen 12.9" - Best option for a display tablet.Galaxy Tab S7+ - Good premium alternative to an iPad Pro>Avoid:XP-Pen, Huion, Gaomon and every other Chinese brand - Poor build quality, lackluster pens, broken tilt, struggles to register light pressure, horrible customer support and the displays are not calibrated. All Chinese brands are basically the same because they're all centralized. Check out the webm to understand how bad they are. Also watch out, Chinese companies shill HARD on /ic/; they do a lot of samefagging and frequently hurl personal insults.Microsoft Surface Pro - The N-Trig digitizer means you will always get wobbly lines.Lenovo - Bad drawing performance because they're not designed with art in mind.Cintiqs & other desktop display tablets - Overpriced, prone to problems and will lead to back posture issues.iPads (brand new)iMacs and Macbooks - Never buy this garbage under any circumstance. It's a locked ecosystem with rubbish hardware you can't upgrade.Previous: >>5734508
reminder if you are not working on a pen display you should either do trad or buy one. traditional tablets are obsolete and no working artist uses one anymore. Sinix was the most recent hold out to switch to 24" pro. get fucked. mike azevedo is next.>>5751097seethe and cope, but you will never be a real artist without one. whoever that guy is im sure is dated and no longer produces at a high level.
>>5751102>whoever that guyThank you for emphatically proving what an idiot you are.
>>5751103wow, yes! behold the power of the intuos 3
>>5751102Your work, post it.
Reminder that my XP-Pen tablet is still working fine.
>>5751097[YouTube] 『ペルソナ5 ザ・ロイヤル』発売記念 イラストメイキング映像 by 副島成記 (embed)lol, his whole style is basically himself making up for the drawbacks of pen tablets, he can't connect body parts precisely and shades them with color instead.
>>5751133You are such an embarrassingly stupid idiot it's insane.
>>5751135Soejima is a great artist because he has exquisite taste while painting his work.Drawing though? He's alright, but he's in Japan so he gets mogged by so many pros easily. ATLUS is full of fucking dinosaurs that can't adapt to current times after all.
>>5751132zero wobble from mine, did the ruler shit and everything. Compared it to my wacom tablet and it's basically the fucking same
>>5751135>>5751103white hands typed this.
>>5751093FUCK YOU!I FOLLOWED YOUR RECOMMENDATION ON GETTING THE GALAXY TAB S6, IT ARRIVED AND THAT FUCKING SHIT STINKS LIKE HOT GARBAGE!FUCK YOU! FUCK YOU! FUCK YOU HONESTLY!SCREEN IS TOO FUCKING SMALL IT RESTRICTS MY MOVEMENTS, I AM DRAWING WORSE THAN A PERMABEG BECAUSE OF YOU.DAMN THE FUCKING 10 INCHES SCREEN.I AM RETURNING THIS SHIT.YOU CAN FUCK YOURSELVES /IC/ELS, RECOMMENDING HOT GARBAGE FOR FUCK'S SAKE.I CAN'T MAKE ART ON A FUCKING TINY SCREEN.
>>5751243>blaming your toolsngmi
>>5751247FUCK YOU!YOU CAN GET FUCKED BY A NEGRO.HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO WORK ON A TINY PIECE OF SHIT AND DO GESTURAL FREE MOVEMENTS?YOU CAN SUCK MY DICK EVERYDAY, FUCK YOU|
>>5751102ok this is a bait post but I feel like we need to show newfag more artists who use screenlessSaito Naoki love screenless, Lack, Aldoori, steven Zapata, Ross drawIntous 3 user in present day: Soejima, FengZhuthere are way more professional out there too so if you are comfortable with it Keep using it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YC7QtHwXiM8
>>5751249never heard of half of those retards. Aldoori is a weirdo that has the energy he's going to stalk one of the barely legal girls he pumps up on IG annually. FengZhu is photobash. Ross draw... all his videos on youtube show him using a 32" pro. GTFO
Since You Guys Know Alot About Tablets Can You Guys Post Photos Of You're Collections :3 Thankies
Im torn between the kamvas 13 and the kamvas 16 pro. What should I go for?
>>5751243>Samsung Galaxy Tab S6 Lite - Budget portable display tablet. Very solid drawing experience with Wacom EMR tech, but a small 10.4" display area.It's written right there, dude. Get a grip.
I bought a new Intuos Pro M to replace my previous one due to death zone problems, both tablets are exactly the same, and both were configured the same, but the newer one feels like it has less pressure sensitivity, why is that?
>>5751278>>5751243it's a garbage tablet desu and you fuckers are all retarded if you're stupid enough to think anything said on this board isn't misguided or a shitpost then you need to lurk more
Managed to get an order in for a Wacom tablet on an accidental price listing of completely free in the Black Friday sale. They quickly removed the listing but nothing changed in my order. I even added a cheap accessory to the order. What're the odds I'll wake up with the order cancelled tomorrow? :^)
>>5751337Sorry, but you're an embarrassingly stupid idiot, and you unironically won't ever make it.
>>5751243I warned you guys about that tablet, you should have listened.
What's the best display tablet in the market right now, that I can use a beginner to just DRAW DRAW DRAW DRAW like a madman without destroying it in the process?
>>5751372>he says while not being a furry porn artist making $8k / month by drawing 6 pages of porn for the whole month if he feels like itlmao ok son
>>5751421Probably cintiq 16, the new 16" xp pen with the x3 chip, or an ipad I guess?
>>5751248anon, i work on a 6x8-inch Intuos and it works just as good as a 24-inch Iintiqdon't blame your tools
>>5750854late reply but just get the 128. i do a ton of art and have no storage issues.you shouldn't worry about storage in %currentyear%, just upload shit to dropbox if you have to and move it to your PC.
Thoughts on refurbished huion products? Anyone using a "returned tablet"? What should I expect if I order one?
>>5751754Chink tablets when new are alright but refurbished is a no-no.
>>5751754I wouldnt even chance a refurbished wacom so definitely not.
>>5752187Thank you, I've dropped the idea.
Is it acceptable for a cintiq 22 to have some light bleed along the top edge or should I return it?
>>5752213if it is a factory new product, no it is not acceptable. I'm assuming you paid a lot of money for it.
will apple delete my loli pics if I back them up using icloud?
>>5752213take a photo of it? what does "light bleed" mean to you
Redlill me on the Cintiq 16 for a newcomer to digital art, is the screen too shit to appreciate your art?
>Check out the webm to understand how bad they arePlease post the webm.
>recommended tablets>either screenless or big smartphonesI want a screen tablet for my DESKTOP, not for using stupid fucking Malaysian timelapse social apps, what do I buy then?
>>5752271Im trying to take one but my phone camera sucks, I'm going to get out my good camera ans try it again. It's like at the top edge of the screen, when the screen is black or grey there is a large area, about 4" along the edge and goes down around 3" down the screen at the largest point, that shows as much brighter than the rest of the screen.
>>5752265Oh I didnt see this one. Yes its brand new. Backlight bleed (not IPS bleed that sits at corners and goes away when viewing angle changes) is caused by pressure on the screen, right? So probably wacom put it together wrong or someone at the amazon warehouse or shipping must have mishandled it I guess? Fuck...
>>5752317What is your price range and what size screen do you want? Do you want just HD resolution or do you want 2k or 4k? Do you want accurate colors and contrast? Do you live in a country where it is difficult to get people to ship to you? Give us information.
>>5752351I want the recommended list to give me options so that I may take my personal circumstances into account, but everything seems to be ruled out.Next week I'm going to visit a friend who has both an iPad and a huge-ass Huion and I'll give them a try, I have no idea what I want yet, but that should help.I still have a baby-butt-smooth Bamboo so anything should be an upgrade, really (except in terms of durability).
>>5752373ignore the OP, it's made by some schizo
>>5752373Look at Cintiqs, pro is best version but regular cintiq can be okay at smaller sizes like 16". Xp Pen is good too, the best ones from them are the 16 pro with x3 chip, 12" 2nd gen, and 24 pro. From Huion, don't go older than 2019 (you can look up what year they were released on amazon if you need to) Their 24" 4k plus is nice if you want huge but since you would use 2k scaling anyways, the 2k pro version is actually good at that size. From them, you want Pro or Plus versions when you can. I can't vouch personally for Gaomon but I hear they've made some decent tablets, I have no clue but if you're a poorfag it's something to look into.I hope this helps some
>>5752374If someone could post the actual OP with the recommended list we made as a thread before it would be nice.
>>5752317Gold standard is cintiq pro 24. Very expensive though. The new huion 24 pro looks good to specs wise, not sure if they fixed the driver issues by now
I’m thinking about getting a bigger iPad Pro but which generation switched to the new pencil?
>>5752380>>5752390>24"What the fuck. My laptop's screen is 16" and my secondary monitor is 21", I think that's too much of a drawing surface already.A 16" is more than enough for me, hopefully that helps with the price. (Lmoaing imagining capslock anon drawing on a 10" one).Also thanks for the info. Cintiqs are probably impossible to buy without pawning my family around here, but Huions might be available at just a kidney per unit.Last question: these tablets come with their own power supply, so is it gentle on a laptop? I don't want to overburden its PSU, as I think it's already working above what it should.
>>5751340Did your order get canceled, anon? Are there any good black friday deals on wacom tablets? I'm not seeing shit yet.
>>5752471For cheaper 16" tablets you might want to check out huion kamvas 16 2021 version NOT the pro and the new xp-pen 16 pro with the x3 chip. Order from amazon if possible so you can return if you have issues
>>5752351Oh not that guy, but I'll take on any offers for help. I am an amateur hobbyist still learning the ropes, doing loomis figures. So just HD resolution is enough for me, and doesn't have to have accurate colors as it will mostly be sketches and line art.I live in eastern europe, but got a friend in germany who can order from the german amazon.I have a price range of 100$ maximum. If I develop some actual skills I might think about something better.
Stupid question but, does every display tablet work in vertical mode like a regular iPad/Tab to draw in?I'm gonna be working A LOT with full body models, anatomy in general and I use more vertical space than horizontal for obvious reasons ...can I just turn a Cintiq sideways and draw like that?
>>5752517ye, just flip the monitor in windows display settings.
>>5752505On amazon, intuos pros are discounted right now.
>>5752471Yeah they either come with a power supply or the power usb can be plugged in to a wall. Some of them can run on a single usb c if they're small enough.
>>5752512$100 for a screen tablet is pretty low, if you can get around $200 you could get a 12" or 13" from xp pen or huion during their sale. Ive been seeing them go on sale a ton during early black friday on amazon though.Maybe closer to $100 would be something like a Gaomon pd1161? I think that ones $160 right now on amazon. Gaomon tablets are ok they're just not professional grade.
>>5752591Nice.>>5752508Cintiq 16 (non-pro) is 1000 dollars, Huion 16 is $850. Why? Importing taxes, of course. Minimum wage is $200/month, for reference.I HATE THE ANTICHRIST.
>>5752667pills is for tranniesmeds is for schizos
>>5751174Same, both my 24 pro and 15.6 pro are the same as my intuos pro.
>>5752785can you two verify you are not chinese by posting your hand?No one has proved the wacom schizo wrong so far.
>>5752505Yeah I woke to an email saying it was cancelled. I didn't think it would work but it was worth the try.
>>5751093i have a small intous 5 PTH-450/k will any wacom pen work with it?
>>5752786The fuck does a hand have to do with shit? You coulda asked for line tests or something but you ask for a fuckin hand?
>>5752903Nope only intuos 5 pens.
>>5752923So this is your answer.I will continue to trust wacom schizo until any of you chinese lards can post any proof.
>>5752936What a retard
XP-Pen listed their newest 16 inch displays on Amazon now, not available yet.
>>5752966blows my mind the 16TP doesn’t have the x3 pen
>>5752936It's your money, not mine. You want to waste it on wacom, go ahead. Nobody is getting paid for recommending chink products here so don't expect people to waste their time making a video for you to call them a shill anyway. I am however suspicious at how hard wacom is being shilled here to the point where threads recommending brands other than wacom (apple and samsung don't count as other brands) are being aggressively shut down.
>>5753155>are being aggressively shut down.Everything except the few accepted fetish topics like Kim Jung Gi / Craig Mullins / etc is aggressively shut down here
>>5753155post your handokay not trusting you
>>5752978Yeah, I'm seeing what the new 24 inches will have to offer. They are getting close to the point for me to consider buying one if they keep improving.
>>5753349Fuck, they're releasing a new 24"?
is the new cintiq pro 16 2021 improved in terms of quality control? less issues with dust between the screen and glass and such?
>>5753484Who knows. They're just the same old parts in a new case. I really hope they aren't using the same screen as before.
Why don't you like ipads /ic/?Also what;s a good price for a used intuos 3?
>>5753604because>appleand also intuos 3 price should be lower than any other similar sized tablet you'd want to buy.
>>5753607Actually I'm looking for a cheap tablet as a gift for a beginner. I saw that all intuos 3 are used ones. Aren't there any new ones on the market good for an entry level beginner?
>>5753612sure, there are plenty fine tablets by now, the OP is just made by a guy that shills the established brands super hard.I'd avoid wacom's cheap new tablets tho, they're designed to lure in unknowing people who recognizes the brand name, instead I'd go for something from Huion or XP-pen who competes with wacoms higher priced lineup for the same price as wacoms cheap stuff.
>>5753633any suggestions? I mean I don't even draw and I'm just giving this as a gift.
>>5753636what's ur budget?
>>5753638Is $50 already ok?
>>5753649I'd get something like one of thesehttps://www.amazon.de/-/en/Inspiroy-Pressure-Sensitivity-Battery-Free-Compatible/dp/B078HZXSRP/ref=sr_1_14?keywords=huion&qid=1637851924&sr=8-14https://www.amazon.de/-/en/Version-Graphic-Pressure-Sensitivity-Battery-Free/dp/B07HQDN7W6/ref=di_hf_qfr_tim_2/257-6737157-9098413?pd_rd_w=NK0pY&pf_rd_p=b81b72b1-4fda-4e00-9372-09afeda738d0&pf_rd_r=1AE9ZFZT6XNET97XH7PJ&pd_rd_r=d8700625-6fa0-4439-a9ac-63803411dac3&pd_rd_wg=hbLiT&pd_rd_i=B07HQDN7W6&th=1
>>5753604iPads are for hobbyists
>>5751255>>5751249Raikoart uses Intous 3 still
>>5753653why did you recommend chinese brands over similarly priced wacom ones?
>>5753752feel free to post similarly priced tablets from wacom with the same specs
>>5753760https://www.walmart.com/ip/One-by-Wacom-student-drawing-tablet-for-Windows-PC-Mac-and-certified-Works-With-Chromebook/574345859Like this one? Or used intuos 3 or 4 like the one on OP's post?
>>5753763that one is a lot smaller than the ones I posted, comes with no express keys, only have 2048 pressure levels and is just as cheaply made except priced twice its value.Don't buy cheap wacom products, they're scams.
>>5753766Ok. im not familiar with any of those lol. https://www.amazon.com/Inspiroy-Battery-Free-Sensitivity-User-Defined-Shortcuts/dp/B079HHZ63Whttps://www.amazon.com/GAOMON-M10K2018-Graphic-Pressure-Battery-Free/dp/B07HQDN7W6are these the one you sent? Probably leaning on the gaomon since it is cheaper
>>5753770>>5753766forgot to tell you the person who will use it is left handed
>>5753770yes>>5753774not a problem, all tablets have settings to switch hand
>>5753775are open box ones ok as well?https://www.ebay.com/itm/275011315717?hash=item4007f3a805:g:BeAAAOSwPnVhVOvr
>>5753781I have no idea, it's probably a hassle if something is wrong with the product, amazon is good in that aspect.
>>5753785what about this one?https://www.amazon.com/HUION-1060-Plus-Graphic-Pressure/dp/B01FTE9HS2
>>5753774>forgot to tell you the person who will use it is left handedThen just dont buy something like huion hs611 that cant be flipped upside down without becoming uncomfortable.
>>5753793that's a model from 2015, it's probably fine, but I'd go newer.
>>5753802>>5753801what about really cheap ones like this?https://www.amazon.com/StarG640-Ultrathin-Graphics-Battery-Free-Pressure/dp/B078YR2MTF
>>5753830the smaller the tablet, the more difficult they are to draw on. They're mostly meant for graphic designers who use them to draw logos and other graphical elements.
I had an Intous 3 for a long time but then it got water damaged. I've been drawing on an ipad since then and although it's nice I just don't care for the apple system, managing files is a pain. Any opinions on Xencelabs? Or should I just grab a newer wacom?
>>5753830The 1060 plus was better. Xp pen deco 01 v2 is also good. Gaomon M10K2018, Huion HS610, Xp Pen Deco Fun Large. These are the kind of sizes you should look at, and they're in your price range. Don't give your friend carpal tunnel to save yourself $10 or $20, man.
>>5753838Xencelabs is pretty nice, build quality is better than Wacom, they're the same as an Intuos Pro just without barrel rotation detection. They're basically the same price though, I think it's more marketed towards people who want an Intuos but not from Wacom. I think if you're buying a wacom right now you could grab an Intuos Pro M off of amazon cheaper than the Xencelabs tablet due to the sales.
>>5753855Thanks I'll get the HUION H1060P
>>5753349>>5753461The new 22” 2nd gen is getting revealed today
>>5753893>still 1080pwhy are there no 1440p 22" tablets?
>>5753893That isn't new at all, it's been out since december of last year. They're just having someone do a stream and review with it because it's on black friday sale at the moment.How disappointing.
>>5753910>That isn't new at all, it's been out since december of last year.Shit. Thought it was new since they're promoting it with the Artist 12 (2nd gen).They really need to revamp their product names.
>>5752348if you're still here, it's unacceptable for for a brand new product to behave like that. If it were used, I would feel slightly different. Even if it were a Huion I would still try to get it replaced. Did you get it through like Amazon or somewhere easy to replace? People shit on Huion, probably rightfully so, but the amount of their products I have purchased off Amazon and then returned a day later because I just wanted to test it is astounding. Probably 6 displays at this point? The one I kept ended up having a bleed issue which I had replaced.
16" vs 22" tablet for a beginner?
>>5754023how committed are you? If ur dipping ur toes, a 16 inch is fine and doesn't use as much space, but if ur going hard a 22 inch will be nice in the long run.
>>5754041as committed as "there's nothing left in my life but making it as an artist so i need to make my first purchase absolutely count and not be a hurdle in the near future"I don't know what brand to go for either, Huion is like less than half the price of Wacom in Canada...
>>5753928Yeah it was through Amazon, sucks to pack it up and return it immediately cause I want to use it but I don't want to keep it especially if theres a chance the screen bleed is gonna get worse over time
>>5754045if money is a problem, go for huion. You're not getting that much more from Wacom, atleast not for the price you pay.
>>5754045if you're serious about art, then go for the wacom even the cheaper non-pro models are greatpeople like >>5754093 are ham fisted numb-fingered bitches that couldn't tell the difference between drawing with a 6B pencil or a 4H because of how fucking fat and heavy their stupid hands are
>>5754130literally everyone who has tried both products says the same thing, don't be a fag.
>>5754164literally nobody that has said such a thing has been able to draw get a fucking clue little crabbyshit
>>5754165why are you so defensive? Why does it matter to you if people buy a product that's not the very best?It's a pointer device with a screen attached, it's just a tool retard.
>>5754170it matters that people are recommending literally inferior products to others yes, yes it does fucking mattermight as well be telling people to use bottom barrel colored pencils or shitty fucking printer paper for their watercolorsyou and everybody of your stupid fucking ilk are goddamn idiots that deserve to be as fucking bad as you no doubt are, any artist with anything resembling fucking ability wouldn't recommend ANYONE to use shittier supplies
>>5754174sounds like you should be drawing more than you should be having a schizo meltdowns over people buying cheaper tools than you.
>>5754181sounds like you should project more shitcrabber
>>5754183i accept your concession
Guys ... I appreciate the passion but I just wanted a nice recommendation about tablet size and brand.I'm gonna be honest money is not really an issue right now I just don't like overpaying for something. But the opinions are so mixed online that I think I'll just order something and return it if I don't like it.
>>5754185The wacom guy starts shit every thread its why he doesnt link back to previous threads.Just get what seems good to you, the only wacom stuff worth the price tag is the pro models, the only huion or xp pen worth the price is stuff released within the last 2 years, and their 4k screens are overpriced compared to their 2k versions of the same models. If its a screen tablet, recommended is 16" or above with good color gamut and minimum 1000:1 contrast ratio or higher. Report rate / response rate from the stylus is important dont sleep on that stat.Best advice I can give you, fren.
>>5754185the only people that give a damn about buying non-wacom display tablets are people that are into "value" and "I don't want to pay for ~the name~" there is no fucking comparison as far as quality goes unless you get an ipad pro, but of course an ipad comes with the concessions of ios>>5754224your advice is as good as your artit's shitsnipsnip goes the shitcrab"fecal the form" your mantra
>>5754185>I'll just order something and return it if I don't like it.This is the best route right now. There's a lot of garbage on the market, despite companies bettering their hardware.It's what I did with my XP-Pen (kept it)
>>5754224>everybody that disagrees with me is actually one personMaybe you just have a shit opinion senpai? Or did you forget your schizo meds today.
>>5754224>>5754233>>5754234I'll order a Cintiq 16 and a Huion 16 alternative from Amazon first to see how it goes.If none of those make the cut, I'll just go for the new 16 Pro instead whenever it releases here in Canada I guess.Unfortunately I still don't think 16" is ideal size wise but that's as much as my budget can go (and I guess touch makes up for it?) it's either that or a Cintiq 22 for the expensive device bracket.
>>5754257The touch on drawing tablets is always really shit, like a bad mouse touchpad
>>5754258apparently it got improved in the latest model? there's only one review out there thoughi'm not gonna lie just the look and that 4k screen with perfect calibration is quite appealing as well
>>5754262>>5754257you'll be disabling the touch while drawing anyways, if it's like every other drawing tablet that's ever existed
>>5754278so basically there's no benefit to it other than the 4k resolution and screen upgrades that come with it right?hmmmm...maybe I buy a Cintiq 16 now, treat it well and upgrade to a proper 24" Pro behemoth in the future when I get to advanced level?
>>5754287Just get the 22. I regretted getting the 16" when I started doing stuff like zbrush sculpting. Now it's sitting in a box somewhere because I couldn't sell it even at half the price with free shipping
>>5754303don't sell it, it's great to have a backup in case something goes wrong.
>>5754303If I buy the 22 what should I buy for ergonomics purposes? I had a whole idea for the Cintiq 16 on top of a box I have at home but the 22 is fucking huge ...is it good enough with the included stand at default desk height?
I just got this old Cintiq 12wx used and the screen has some scratches. It's not something too bad but a bit annoying when viewing anything too bright. Can I used something like Brasso on it or is it too risky?
>>5754306No you definitely need an ergotron arm
>>5754327>BrassoAre you trying to fuck your screen up like a retard? Hell no, don't do that.
>>5754501Hmmm that's gonna be a problem, I don't want to spend that much more and also buy a more expensive desk than the one I have now that I'm sure won't resist it properly
Hey, can anyone give me a suggestion? Total noob when it comes to digital art. I'd like to get a screen tablet that I can hook into my computer for drawing, graphic design, and spriting. I have a soft budget of about $500- I'm willing to save up more to get something decent if need be.
>>5754554Also correct me if im wrong but every ergotron video I see the screens wobble to fucking much while resting on them
>>5754306That stand the 22 comes with us good and sturdy. Not as amazingly adjustable as the ergo stand that the large pro models use but it’s plenty good. I don’t like the ergotron monitor arm mounts for my tablets, but I also use old drafting tables and stuff like thatJust make sure you exercise to undo the effects of leaning over
>>5754306The Cintiq 22 comes with the fancy adjustable metal stand that's sold separately for the Cintiq 16. You don't need anything other than the extra desk space. If you want an arm that's entirely up to you.
>>5754305I bought the Cintiq 22 from best buy and just got their 2 year geeksquad warranty. If they can't fix it I get a full refund. Like maybe it'll break down the road but that's probably going to be years from now
>>5754554>>5754566If your desk is too small to hold the weight its a problem but if you are just worried about the material being too thin you can put a chunk of wood under it along the clamp to make sure it distributes weight properly. Or you can go with wall mount. And no the wobbling shouldnt happen and at the very least it should be minimal. If its wobbling then they chose an ergo arm with a weight maximum too close to the weight of the monitor, or they didnt adjust the springs enough. Ideally the weight of the tablet should fall right in between minimum and maximum weight for the arm.If you don't want to fuck with that stuff though, just try the tablet by itself and see how you feel first.>>5754565Cintiq 16, Wacom One could work if you're not concerned about color accuracy. Pair one of those with the Parblo or Artisul tablet stand because theirs suck ass.
>>5754615>>5754634>>5754642ty guys im gonna try it with just the included stand it comes withmaybe lowering my chair a bit when im drawing will make it more ergonomic, until i find a platform big and sturdy enough to put it on top lmao
>>5754566Yea it wobbles, it's just the nature of moving parts on what's basically a giant lever. All large tablets have that issue but it's perfectly usable unless you're an ape
I need a verdict on Wacom Intuos tablet. Line art mosty, for beginners. The jewery of selling the pen separately for an 80$ total is putting me off, but otherwise it seems fine.
>>5755051The verdict seems to be wacom is overpriced. Unfortunately the alternative is chinese shit (fuck the tyrannical ccp i'm not a shill)I'd just get a shitty $55-80 zhang tablet. The less money you spend on beginner shit the less money you spend overall. Youtube and r*ddit seems to like them if you want bang-for-buck. Wacom needs to lower prices but they don't have slave labor so not gonna happen.
>>5751093M1 iPad Pro 12.9" with 16GB RAM worth it?
what are your guys experience with used products? I generally have a policy to NEVER buy used or refurbished goods
>>5755089I have a refurbished iPad Pro from Apple, it’s fine except for one spot that gets bright but I found out later it’s a common problem for the year it came out in.Last year I also bought a used xxl intuos and it has no problems, I got it for a great price on eBay
>>5755087I regret getting the m1 ipad. I should have used the money on either a new phone or a new desktop pc.
This message apparently pops up if you're using older wacom tablets in CSP. Should I be worried about this? I was about to buy another intuos 3 as a backup.
I can't get Deco 01 V2(for some stupid reason store in which i have 50% off coupon doesn't ship it to me)Is XP-PEN Star G960 worse by margin compared to Deco 01 V2? It's my first tablet so my only request is not wobbly lines if possible.I don't know if i will ever get used for it, so being smaller probably better for me, at least until i get why bigger = better
>>5755102This is eerie for some reason
>>5755102Fuck it, I bought it anyway. If I get that message for CSP myself I'll just switch to sai full-time until my PC finally decides to end itself.
>>5751093I just bought Clip Studio Paint for my iPad and so far it feels fantastic to use. Any suggested Bluetooth devices for command shortcuts and such?
Is there any decent black Friday deals to look out for? I am looking to get a drawing tablet (or drawing monitor, not sure if that's the correct terminology) that's the best bang for the buck that I can get delivered by Christmas.
>>5755121I have this tablet, it's fucking impossible to draw on as a beginner. I used it for osu so it's not like i'm uncomfortable with it. I got the deco v2 and it was night and day. bigger is usable and I wouldn't get anything that isn't "M" sized. Just spend the extra $20 on the deco 01 v2, or another tablet like it i don't care which.Also it doesn't pass the ruler test, lines are naturally wobbly, I'd only use it for osu or maybe really shitty art? Paper is better than that thing, do NOT go small.
>>5755189buy a used one
Bros I regret my cintiq 22hd so much
>>5751093i really dont give a fuck anonuse whatever suits youi'm happy with my huion kamvas 22 pro
>>5755211i meant kamvas plus* not pro (who needs those extra buttons anyway? u got a whole fkn keyboard, or keypad in my case
>>5755097tell me more
>>5751243Not your fault. It’s the moods fault for still letting op get away with creating more tablet threads with dumb recommendations.
>>5753243Go back to pol and kill yourself.
any thoughts on xiaomi MI pad 5 ?
>>5751437But how the fuck do you do gestural strokes on a tiny space?It's like you are contradicting yourselves, you always recommend anons on /beg/ threads to do swift and gestural strokes on BIG CANVASES.What the hell honestly?
>>5755309>But how the fuck do you do gestural strokes on a tiny space?that's the thing, you don'tunless you wanna handicap yourself get a big drawing surface, or adapt to the small sizethere's a reason why even japs moved on to cintiqs eventually (i'm talking old dinosaurs here), it's just not the samealso, if you happen to be a gamer like me (so 24", 27" or even bigger screen at 1440p for example) a screen-less will feel even shittier because of the scaling
>>5755309There is this wonderful thing called the zoom tool. The Japanese even invented patented technology called the stabilizer that western companies simply cannot rival in their software. You don’t need a 32 inch Cintiq.
>>5755361>the stabilizerIsn't this admonized everywhere?I remember Marc Brunett saying that you are ngmi if you use stabilizer.
>>5755189Yeah, look at graphics tablets on amazon or go to huion or xp pens websites, some good discounts right now
Can anyone with a chinese screen tablet confirm that there is a tablet out there with a "tap to click" function for the side buttons on their pen?
>>5755309>>5751437When you're a /beg/ tablet type and size doesn't change the quality of your work. It's shit no matter what you do!>>5755382>>5755361>attempting a live figure drawing class>pull my arm down>everything is crooked>try to fix it with another stroke>now everything is unclear>attempt to restate>can't tell what I'm looking at>go in to fix up some corners>now I've chicken scratched over half a dozen wobbly lines>pretend that I'm a modern artist so people don't laugh at me>they laugh anywaysYeah, stabilizers are WONDERFUL agreed anon.
>>5755467What the fuck are you talking about
>>5755199You were warned. Don't listen to people sweet talking you and telling you what you want to hear when others are warning you...
>>5755144Just a bluetooth keyboard is good but you can get one of those keypads for procreate, they're smaller and work well.
Looking for budget display tablet for just starting out.Honestly was just looking at XP-Pen's 12 Pro, 12 2nd Gen and the 13.3 Pro.
>>5755199Why did you buy a 9 year old, end of life tablet? That's on you
>>5755087i've been using one for about a month now and so far no issues. i'm shitting out commissions much faster because i can take this thing out of the house and i can use it for other shit like using it as a streamdeck.
what would you guys recommend as a first tablet? i've been checking some sites reviews but I kinda suspect most are paid shills, what should I watch for when looking for one?are huion really bad?>HUION H1060Pthis one seemed good and for 51€ seems like a good deal
are there any big artists who use a regular ipad?
>>5751093>Check out the webm to understand how bad they are.What webM? People have been copy-pasting the same OP that the webM doesn't exist anymore?
>>5755662nah the guy who makes the OP is the same guy who occasionally stops by to have a meltdown over anyone recommending non-wacom products, he just forgets to post the outdated cherrypicked webm sometimes.
>>5755662Here you go (webm related).Notice how the chinese moron is already in damage control: >>5755668
>>5755051just buy an old used intuos3 if you're a beg. i don't know why so many of you are looking to spend hundreds of dollars for a tablet when you can't even shade a box on some pencil and paper. just buy a cheap tablet and see if you'll even stick with it for longer than 6 months and go from there.
>>5755468>live figure drawing classesPost Covid era? What? Everything is online now.
>>5755623Oh okay. Yeah that's basic for any tablet brand. You just set the button to right or left click and when you press the button while hovering it clicks.
>>575550712 2nd gen is the best of those 3.
is it important to place your pen tablet perfectly in front of the monitor in the long run?
>>5755991What's much better about the 12 2nd gen than the 12 pro? Doesn't it have the loss of the wheel?
>>5756089>unironically relying on the wheelthe new pen is better, that's why. If you want to by the 12 pro for the inferior pen technology then by all means do whatever you feel is best.
https://www.xencelabs.com/product/xencelabs-pen-tablet-medium/decent screen less tablet,
>>5756131for two pens and the build quality seems good, can always go with cheaper alternatives if too expensive.
>>5756089If you want a wheel so bad just get the shortcut key remote. The difference in styluses is huge.
>>5756131As compared to the Intuos Pro Medium for $380, with better build quality/materials, unironically better drivers than Wacom, and doesn't eat your nibs? Yeah lmao what a ripoff.
>>5756246Any recommendation for tablet stand then? Since that's missing between the two, and $50 for a stand seems a bit fucking much from xp-pen.
My XP Pro 12 Screen died less than a year in, Support tells me to fuck off, A bit saddened since my old 10s still kicks ass today just in storage, Gonna buy another on amazon and resend the broken one because fuck bezos and fuck xp penIn the mean time, Used Wacom one or Used 2019 Cintiq non pro?, Pen on the one looks shitty but im conservative about power, What are my ergnomic options on those two as well ive been more worrysome about my posture and neck recently but have a laptop adjustable stand to help with that a bit, And any replacements to the circle dial the XP pen has? i quite liked that a shit ton as well as the buttons What can i do on that front with wacom?
>>5756292>less than a year inthen you should've been covered by a warranty
School doodler(not in school anymore) and occasional paper and pen drawer here. I want to get back into drawing, so that I can post on my social media, so I’d like to start getting into digital drawing. Should I just get a Samsung Galaxy Tab S6 Lite if it goes on a massive sale? Or should I get something cheaper since drawing isn’t my passion. Is there a tablet that I should instantly buy if it goes under $100?
>>5751093Noob here. So at what point did you guys decide that you are going to switch from paper and go buy a drawing tablet?I only started to consider because I thought how much better it would be if I could turn off the underlying draft lines with a click of a layer button. On the other hand I am a few weeks old in this. Should I discard this notion and keep going on paper until a certain level of proficiency? Or better invest into a cheaper device until then?Any advice?
I want to upgrade from normal Intuos to the Pro version. Should I go with medium size or large? (24inch monitor)
>>5756553imo you can just buy a cheap (but good) tablet to try digital art outi got a really cheap tablet back then when i wasnt even "serious" with drawing. i wasn't even drawing on paper everyday or anything before that.
>>5756566This looks interesting, a lot cheaper as well. Some reviews complain about pressure sensitivity though (pic rel).
I want to buy mounting arm for my 21.5' tabletany recommendaions? tips? what to look for?
>>5756584Not sure if that person is using a Macbook or what but its been good for me
>>5756602>>5756605Welp, I know what to buy now. Thanks!
>>5756609No problem,also the newer wacom tablets cant do this anymore but with the xencelab you can Nylon Trimming wire as an alternative if you manage to run out of nibs
>>5756286Either artisul or parblo coast tablet stand. It's sturdy, fully adjustable, and about $30ish.>>5756292You know, if your tablet is supposed to be in warranty and the company tells you to fuck off, I recommend consulting a lawyer, maybe they can send a letter as incentive :) It is not legal to refuse someone under warrantyYou can also go karen mode and ask to speak to their supervisor or manager
any of you poor faggots ever used that old green wacom bamboo tablet? the model is ctl470 I've had it for 3 years but I still can't get used to it
should i get huion kamvas 13 (2021) or xp-pen artist pro 12? >Inb4 x3 12" (x3) variant not released in my country yet, but the 16 one is 100 usd more expensive then kamvas 16 (2021), i don't think it's worth to wait
What tablet size should I get for a 24" monitor?
>>5756729Medium or large , the screen doesnt matter, it comes down to how much space you want on the tablet to move around your hand.
>>5751093>Will burn through your nibsWhat the fuck does this means
>>5756855The surface will erode the nibs faster than the 3. The 3 has the best surface.
>>5756720Huion 13.>>5756855There is a plastic nib in the stylus. Wacom nibs are very soft, and you rub them against a textured surface which is basically sandpaper. The nibs disappear quickly, especially if you are heavy handed you could expect to change the nib daily.
>>5756858Yeah but anything has a better stylus and response rate. Just put a screen protector over the drawing surface and suddenly you have a bigger and better intuos 3
I've been using Huion H1060p for a year and it was pretty comfy, but I've completely destroyed its micro USB port. Has any good update appeared through this year with similar specs (10x6″ 66$), possible with less wonky port or should I just get new H1060p?
My new 32 Cintiq pro has been nothing but brilliant. Online reviews were really leaning hard into the negatives.Sure, bad shit can happen, but it’s amazing to work on. Don’t trust the haters and copium addicts.
>>5756900What's one feature that you really like about it?
>>5756518No, don't get anything other than the S7 or S7+. For drawing their other tablets are too slow.
So the XP-Pen 15.6 pro screen protector is complete garbage and basically needs to be replaced immediately. It will get scratched up and obfuscate details after a few months of regular use. Annoying but an easy and relatively cheap fix, and it's really the only complaint I've had so far after 6 months. The pen feels great and the shortcut keys make everything easier. This thing is pretty great.>mfw using the wheel to instantly rotate the canvas for a perfect down stroke
Can I buy a Cintiq off Amazon.JP and use it in Canada? They are much cheaper, even after shipping and duties. I would have to switch the power cable but thats it right?
>>5756910Not him but it's fucking huge