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Post Anatomy studies, Figure drawings, Portraits, and Clothed figures. Post anything relating to the human figure. As a beginner, try to draw from reference, and be as accurate as possible. Critique people based on their correctness of drawing. You may also post basic forms, such as beans, boxes, and ellipses.

Recommended authors: (check the artbook thread / video course thread)
>Stephen Rogers Peck
>Gottfried Bammes
>Elliot Goldfinger
>Paul Richer
>Vilppu Drawing Manual & lectures
>Steve Huston Figure Drawing lectures

Glenn Vilppu Stuff - https://mega.nz/#F!RIx3TJxJ!_Nna8t01kPxENJ8KSzXqwg!EUJHgKAZ

Recommended Exercises:
>Figure Drawing (poses ranging from 1 minute to 5 hours)
>Skeleton / bone studies from 3d renders (sketchfab.com)
>Ecorche: draw skeleton, then layer muscles on top, from deepest to surface, layer by layer.

Robert Beverly Hale quote:
>You cannot learn the true shape of bones from pictures, however accurate. You must have the real, three dimensional bone. Even in my classroom, a misguided student will copy pictures of bones when the real skeleton is hanging right before him.
>It is better to buy the separate bones, rather than the whole skeleton. (which is often put together by ignorant mechanics) The shape of hte important ends of the bones is forced by places where they touch each other; these places cannot be nicely observed in the assembled skeleton. When you have acquired your bones, study them until you can draw them by heart from any position. Then draw them together as a full skeleton.
forgot to add, just copying from Bridgman is okay. Just start from page 1 and copy until the last page. Rinse and repeat.
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OK those are overall quite good for skeleton anatomy OP. If I could advise you a few things so as to help you push your skills further:

1. Try to draw a mesh on top of a pelvis, see if you properly understand all the subtleties of its form.

2. Also, try to draw directly with ink, without a graphite under drawing.

Also, when it comes to skeleton, medical ones are likely to be good investments for those willing to study anatomy that deep.
thank you, i plan to buy the skeleton eventually (at least plastic anatomical models). im studying from an ipad app currently (L'Ecorche). I'll do the wireframes and go directly in ink. hopefully ill post more tomorrow
Wait, deltoid attaches to brachialis?
oh shit lol
that's the bicep
but i was wondering the exact same thing, im pretty sure that's fucked since ive always known it to insert between the bicep and brachialis but im not confident enough to object to motherfucking da vinci
dude dissected corpses so im hoping someone who knows what's going on can explain it
nvm that is the brachialis, the angle was weird and yes it does look like that in real life
Is this a new general? I don't remember seeing this thread before.
Considering all the fundamentals, which one is my weakest point in this drawing? Ps: Background rushed because I had limited time to do it. Thanks in advance.
Values are meaningless on your drawing. You don't have proper control of edges. Pay attention to how values are on proper studies and compare to yours.
Watts Atelier teaches all of this. You don't need to pay, just look over Youtube.
youre just posting here for crits and missing the point of the general. you didn't consider the skeleton or even construction at all, this is just a copy attempt with no understanding of underlying forms. symbol drawn facial features. hair that was drawn strand by strand rather than as a bigger form first and then broken down to smaller ones
1.5/10 apply yourself and post actual anatomical studies next time
The drawing overall is rushed, not just the background. There's some interesting textures in the hairs though.

Again and again, take 10h to 15h to do one precise Bargue plate copy. Start with a simple one.

This will train your eyes, and help you better appreciate/internalize what a good drawing should look like. This will give you a (good) point of reference.

The more you practice such exercices, the better you'll learn to control your materials & to use your eyes, which is what you should be focused for now.

Regarding anatomy (after all, this is an anatomy thread), a good exercice with your pose would be to overlay the main muscles, find the bones, the muscles attachments points, etc. This is yet another difficult yet valuable exercice.

Though Bargue plates are likely to be much more profitable to you right now.

What is the point of this thread if life studies are not to be posted?
i'm not op, idk and I don't care if you post your naive life drawings again, but it's not a lot of use to anyone to just copy a picture without trying to understand the anatomy. that's why a lot of it is symbol-drawn, and better suited for /beg/
yeah that's wrong
Not a skeleton
You can post your life drawings. I think you should work on being able to draw accurately, like proportions and shapes and stuff. Just practice a lot
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Atlas of Human Anatomy by Frank H. Netter, M.D. is the best book for skeletal anatomy. It isn't designed for artists so it's not simplified.
Are you a student of Vilppu’s?
I watched his videos on heads, he is a good teacher but my inspiration for wanting complete accuracy is primarily the fact that the old masters studied human anatomy from cadavers, not stylized "artist" anatomy. Da Vinci could draw anatomically correct humans in any pose/perspective from imagination because he deeply understood real human anatomy.
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Not him but it actually looks fairly accurate in my opinion

Also >>5751802
>yes it does look like that in real life
what book is this?
Skull studies
Another one
take the photo perpendicular to the paper next time, so we can see it better
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this looks good, anon
i just found it interesting because Vilppu recommends that same Netters book in his private classes. It's secret Vilppu info that only a select few of us know haha
Nice skull, where'd you get it? I got the Science 3B one but am always disappointed since I could have gotten a cheap Bone Clones skull if I just waited
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gonna dump a bunch of images. Most were done directly into ink, without any underdrawing.
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skeletons without a pencil underdrawing is so hard
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i broke down and went back to doing an underdrawing for these
Is there a course or book you did that you learned from? Or improved your drawing?
Vilppu is my favorite
I tried him, but his gesture is too confusing so i dropped it. Was it something you stuggled with at first, but improved later?
>vilppu is too confusing
spotted the femoid
It can be confusing, but later on he gives you two other ways to do gesture. In actuality, you can do gesture however you want, since it'll be covered up with form and shading. He just presents his way of doing it becasue it forces you to see certain design elements. Just don't over think it. Fill up a hundred pages first, before you ask questions
also, I didn't do vilppu at first. I did Mike Mattesi and developed a slick but superficial and flat style of drawing. Vilppu was the one who gave me depth and form, but at that point I'd been drawing for 2 years already
Guess I got lucky then.
What is number 3 in this picture?
#3 is the barchialis. It looks like the deltoid and brachialis are connected, but the detloid's insertion is still in the humerus (deltoid tuberosity of the humerus)

"The brachialis muscle originates from the anterior surface of the distal half of the humerus, just distal to the insertion of the deltoid muscle. It is also attached to the intermuscular septa of the arm on either side, with a more extensive attachment to the medial intermuscular septum (A connective tissue septum that separates two muscles, esp. one from which muscles may take their origin.)"

"Fibres from all heads converge to insert into the deltoid tuberosity on the humerus. The deltoid fascia is continuous with the brachial fascia and connects to the medial and lateral intermuscular septa."

Note: Fascia is just the superficial wrapping of the muscle.


Dunno, one of the first picture for "upper limb dissection lateral view" on google image here, but yes seems to be brachialis: >>5753894
So brachialis and deltoid conned to generally the same location on the humerus?
They insert very close to one another. The fascia wrapping is connected, which is why they look melded together. But the actual muscle and insertion points are separate.
Thanks, I’ll keep it in mind!
I got ripped off by a reseller, I noticed a tobacco shop with a lineup of pretty stylized skulls, so I wondered whether they had any realistic ones tho.

So I enter and they actually have two pretty good skulls, i spent half an hour trying to find issues to lower the price while also looking for the gender differences within them since the artisan seems to have referenced parts from different skulls.

In the end I opt for the white skull, since the reddish one didn’t have nice value transitions.

The only issue I have with it, is that the jaw doesn’t attach well into the TMJ
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only one page today, about 40 mins of drawing
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a song I've been looping: https://youtu.be/XDpoBc8t6gE

thank you anon, this bump made my day
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the more I draw, the more I look forward to doing this.


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